A vast majority of those civilian deaths were caused by Insurgents however. Lots of car bombs and whatnot. We were probably responsible for about 30% of civvie deaths
No one faked the numbers. The numbers are real. But they are just the total number of civilian deaths. It's not attributed to either side. In reality it was mostly terrorist activity. When we kill civilians it's due to a fuckup and not policy, when Insurgents would kill civilians it's because they didn't give a fuck and would blow up a bunch of Shiites in a crowded Cafe
"Probably responsible"= a precise cited number. It's an estimation. If you look at how most civilian deaths occurred it was from random bombings and we didn't do those. For you I'll revise it to 33.25478%
6 months ago
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You used your fair share of bombs
Pretty sure Obamna made sure of that
6 months ago
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We definitely did blow up civilians but not indiscriminately and on purpose. AQ in Iraq blew would suicide bomb civilian centers all the time
6 months ago
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>these arabs would always kill their own people for no reason >but not us no way, only like a few maybe
Retard
6 months ago
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There was a Sunni-Shia Civil War going on in the aftermath of the invasion. They literally were killing each other.
I also already admitted we killed a significant amount of the Civilians with our mistakes. You are a fucking mongoloid
6 months ago
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>Sunni-Shia Civil War going on in the aftermath of the invasion.
Guess whos fault that is >You are a fucking mongoloid
Instantly becomes defensive
Babykiller apologist
6 months ago
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>Guess whos fault that is
mohammed for not leaving a proper path to succession and being a general retard and pedophile leading to a people of terminal inbreeding and low moral and intellectual worth?
6 months ago
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he’s just trying to be subversive. nothing you say will satisfy him. just ignore and discuss kino.
6 months ago
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Yeah I picked up on that. Some people just wanna argue.
In terms of Kino, one of the most underrated characters of the show is Lt. Fick. Fantastic
6 months ago
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>I am assured that one day Generation Kill will be rightly recognized as one of the most high-quality kinos of the 21st century >I am assured of this...
6 months ago
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>whoopsie we accidentally killed a bunch of civilians on purpose but we said it was a mistake so it's ok for us to keep doing it for 2 decades... also you should feel bad for the poor brave soldiers that have hurt feelings from having killed all those women and children
Shut up homosexual
The us military is most cucked organization in the world
You commie victim larp is cringe
Based military chads should have destroyed your 3rd word village hovel but we all know it never happened
Should have though
Were you around then? I remember turning on CNN and seeing Iraqis driving across the Tigris River going to work the next morning like any other day, shock and awe was blown out of proportion. They also memory holed the huge lines of civilians welcoming our army and waving along the roads and highways, there was never a bigger “owning the libs” moment when we knocked down Saddam’s statue and all the peaceniks and UN statists like Kofi Annan or Hans Blix were fuming. Unfortunately it all went to shit a month later with the insurgency. Truly a missed opportunity for real change in that region.
6 months ago
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half the problem is the US didn't want to rule the middle east. they wanted a compliant vassal state that mostly solved its own shit.
shocker they didn't go for that.
6 months ago
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The big issue is we had no plan for what came after removing Saddam. Like we didn’t guard the museums wtf, probably a huge chunk of the insurgency was funded by looted artifacts. Also firing all the Baathist officials and army was dumb too, a lot of the insurgents were just people doing it because they lost their job and got paid to fight and didn’t care about politics. It was incompetence of the highest level you almost think it was done on purpose.
6 months ago
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>when we knocked down Saddam’s statue
I remember the US news playing that as the locals pulling it down and the cameras just happened to be there. Looked suspect as fuck even back then during the propaganda overdrive. So you're saying it really was a US military photo opportunity?
6 months ago
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Yeah. Obviously. The Iwo Jima flag raising was a propaganda photo shoot. That shit happens all the time in war.
6 months ago
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It's a big occasion wouldn't they set it up? I bet there were Americans there when the president was sworn in too.
6 months ago
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That's not how it was portrayed at the time. It was shown as a spontaneous event showing how "it's liberation, not invasion". The propaganda from that time was interesting.
Crazy how everyone these days has completely forgotten about the last twenty years and what was really happening.
6 months ago
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We’re all ok with collectively forgetting the war on terror. Especially Iraq 2.0.
No Big Macs and slurpees for you hajis.
6 months ago
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It really shoildn't be forgotten by anyone because the US will just get the popilace backing to do it again in an endless cycle until someone gets big enough to slap the mutts the fuck down. There's still a chsnce that could be China so I'll support them outside of some of their bullshit, but it might take a while.
6 months ago
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They did the video twice. One where they put the American flag over his face, and one where they put the iraqi flag over his face. Both edited differently for different audiences. Of course it was propaganda.
6 months ago
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>the huge lines of civilians welcoming our army and waving along the roads and highways > moment when we knocked down Saddam’s statue
the reason "Unfortunately it all went to shit a month later" was because these were photo ops and didn't accurately represent the attitude of the Iraqis. I don't understand how you can mention these 2 overtly staged events in the same sentence as "Unfortunately it all went to shit a month later with the insurgency." and not realize this.
>were caused by Insurgents >iraqi police catch brits dressed like civilians with bombs >american military destroys police station and retrieves them
yeah those pesky local insurgents blowing up praing houses to stir religious war....
The final scene of the soldiers leaving one-by-one as the video montage turns from goofy acting clips to real footage of dead Iraqis is pretty powerful too
My personal favorite part was when the Marines started attacking each other during the football game. Showed how much stress they had bottled up. Encino Man deserved it, Rudy always seemed nice to Ray so it was a bit random
Ray was just bugging from lack of caffeine pills and took his frustration out on Rudy, even Rudy acknowledges he fucked up beating on him too much in the same scene. Agreed on Encino Man though, seeing Patterson deck him was, sadly enough, a highlight of the show for me.
Were they really caffeine pills or a stand in for something else? They seem so effective it was throwing me off. Any time i try taking them rather than staying awake i just want to throw up and go to bed. withdrawal with those is bad?
6 months ago
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A quick search reveals them to be a B12/Niacin supplement jam packed with a bunch of other shit (including caffeine). Probably awful but I imagine it gets the job done for energy if you take enough.
6 months ago
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I thought it was based off those body building supplements that were legal back then. Ephedrine I think it was
6 months ago
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banned in 04.
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6 months ago
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Ripped fuel. Kept you awake and made your pee a nice orange hue.
The real life Ray said that there was only one pill each for the invasion. The recurring presence was for the show as was the fight at the end.
Might as well just ask, can you to greentext any of his facts or anecdotes you found interesting or remember?
I heard on commentary or interviews he gets really embarrassed when people quote some of his lines back at him.
My personal favorite part was when the Marines started attacking each other during the football game. Showed how much stress they had bottled up. Encino Man deserved it, Rudy always seemed nice to Ray so it was a bit random
Great show, just rewatched it. It’s honest, its gritty and realistic and doesn’t romantisize things. No character development, just men being the brothers they are whule making fucked up, racist jokes about eachother and nobody getting butthurt. Fucking 10/10.
Yes. But, the IA/IP wounded a lot more. Like a 1-7 ratio. The locals would dump bodies in this open field at night, and every morning we would have to go out there and count them/ID them before we had them picked up. We called it the G-spot.
>Iraq 2007 >We only had one TV for the whole paltoon. So we had movie night, every night. >Local haji would bring us bootleg DVDs with movies on them for the cheap. >Watching the 1987 predator with Arnold Schwarzenegger in it. >Everyone joking around in Arnold's voice after the movie. >Next day, be at G-spot >See haji that had lower jaw blown out with a high calibar round. >My sergeant points out he looks like the predator >The platoon spends the rest of the day speaking like Arnold over the radio.
We won nearly 100% of every battle we had and had an insane K/D ratio but it's pointless to try and democracy build in a savage shithole where they just wanted to kill each other over ethnic/religious differences. After awhile it wasn't worth it to spend trillions on saving an unsaveable people. Especially when every other day they would set IEDs that would take out a row of humvees.
That's been our modus operandi since the Cold War, anon. >build nation with regime friendly to us >USA sphere of influence grows >more allies than commies >bigger economy than commies >bigger and better trade options with created allies >new allies enjoy US tech, trade and protection >US gets another base or two to surround dirty commies with
If they were more like trombley they could have won that war.
Reminder that the only reason ISIS didn't take over all of Iraq like the Taliban is because of a desperate counteroffensive on the outskirts of the capital, led by tribal and Shia militias with roots in the local culture whose existence was contrary to American doctrine
If the Americans had done any better at replacing local institutions with shitty copies of western ones, they would have just given the whole country to ISIS on a silver platter
>the dog shit gets brought up again with civilian stuff >he actually starts getting a little annoyed at being called a psychopath >pouts and spits out "I like cats!..." to try a show a shred of humanity >he and the rest all just kind of go silent
i felt bad
I've never joined the military, but there is something appealing that Generation Kill gets about shooting the shit with your battle buddies and singing some tunes in your Humvee. I don't think I'd half mind getting drafted in the Chink-Taiwan War.
No one "dies for the US" anymore. Ever since we left Afghanistan, the only thing our military does is help South Korea "defend" for a war that will never happen, fuck Jap poon in Okinawa, turn Poland into a bigger military power than it deserves to be, and teach Ukrainian soldiers the many ways to kill a Russian.
People say it all the time but it really was like a roadtrip movie.
Most military kino ends up being a lot of marching and bouncing blown out building to blown out building which is much less appealing.
>tfw every aptitude test had USMC Officer for #1 >tfw grandpa(WWII Army vet) great uncle(WWII Navy Pilot) and every coach and male teacher I had told me I'd make one helluva marine >tfw destroy my knee at 15 >tfw no branch would take me
My dad got his leg fucked up so badly in training with the Royal Marines that he couldn't continue. He plays it off like it was no big deal, but I can tell that it really broke his dream to serve just as his dad had done.
I'm joining as an officer after I'm done university. Granted it's gonna be the Canadian Army and I'm gonna be 30 by the time I finish BMOQ but I still feel really happy with the decision. My grandfather and uncle did 11 years each. There is something really gratifying at being apart of a big, cohensive movement with your best friends even when it's war.
Although I'm not stupid. I'm trying for a nursing officer. They don't send medical professionals in the first waves over the trenches.
Being in the Canadian army is like LARPing as military like the tactifat guys on youtube >big cohesive movement
I too want to follow some geriatric retards orders who sends people to die for....???
They still do. I met some Canadian sf guys once at a training thing and they were a ton of fun while still being highly skilled soldiers. Every interaction I've had with Canadian soldiers has been positive, and they do a lot of things differently as a matter of doctrine that the US could stand to emulate.
Could you guys beat them in a war or would they capture seattle
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I mean I imagine probably? That might be more of a quantity over quality situation though. And I'm sure the useless shitbags in the Canadian forces don't come to places where they'd give the country a bad name so I may have only ever met the cream of the crop.
>Being in the Canadian army is like LARPing as military
Except that the Canadian army has been apraised as having the best trained soldiers in every war they've faught. The issue is Canada is 30yrs behind on miltiary technology.
Tired of hearing from Russians about anything. You genuinely figured "nah fuck just cracking jokes about the cold war with the rest of the internet, time to NOT fix our massive abortion, homosexual, AIDS, drugs, and sociopathy problems and INSTEAD show how MANLY we all are by invading those guys we starved into cannibalism last century again because they NEED to be part of us and should look back fondly on being starved by the Eastern Bloc."
And then you LOST so humiliatingly and convincingly with every advantage and no direct NATO opposition, just due to your own stupidity and inability to maintain anything, that you have the homosexual cancer killing the west jumping on the Azov nazi bandwagon and trying to downplay it because they know they're backing a winning horse and will get to LARP as "real Americans".
Enough bullshit, you're pathetic.
>Tired of hearing from Russians about anything. You genuinely figured "nah fuck just cracking jokes about the cold war with the rest of the internet, time to NOT fix our massive abortion, homosexual, AIDS, drugs, and sociopathy problems and INSTEAD show how MANLY we all are by invading those guys we starved into cannibalism last century again because they NEED to be part of us and should look back fondly on being starved by the Eastern Bloc."
And then you LOST so humiliatingly and convincingly with every advantage and no direct NATO opposition, just due to your own stupidity and inability to maintain anything, that you have the homosexual cancer killing the west jumping on the Azov nazi bandwagon and trying to downplay it because they know they're backing a winning horse and will get to LARP as "real Americans".
Enough bullshit, you're pathetic.
>Joined the OTC in university because I was a boyscout and always enjoyed that sort of thing >Spend the majority of it being subjected to Downtown Abbey tier classism by the other officer cadets >Figure whatever, I'm sure it's different when you get past the first two years >Riding along one day with a senior under officer, theoretically the cream of the crop >Ask some insignificant question and he goes on a tangent for maybe twenty minutes to disguise that he doesn't know the answer, I realise about ten words in that he's full of shit >Realise that if I went further then I'd have to trust my life to fuckwits of his IQ level or lower
I decided not to commission at minute four and started considering suicide by minute nine.
The homeless thing is a more Vietnam era thing. Any "veteran" you see fucked up outside the military. It always pissed me off when I was in, that around base homeless would get second hand uniforms from the thrift store or something and wear them like the military just kicked them out with only the clothes on their backs
There's this hobo in my town who swans around in DPM (right) saying the army fucked him over, when he would have been around 12/13 when CS95 MTP (left) was issued.
He gets beaten up all the time because about a third of my town is serving forces and everybody knows the army doesn't just kick you out but lets you keep their property, it's all surplus he's bought for pitybaiting.
Getting 100s of thousands of taxpayer money after getting out can even make the most low iq individuals successful, they’re called welfare babies for a reason
Because you are influenced by propaganda to despise your country and insist that white men keep paying for everyone else to sit around and be jobless obese rats, yes.
I've watched numerous interviews with Iraqi's talking about retarded American millenial homosexuals blowing off the local bakers head with a 50cal because they thought the pita he was holding was a gun
all the stuff about Iceman and Ray kitting out the humvee on their own time and dime, the shit with the gun oil for the turret, or the medic when they got to the city and he realized the crowd was just too fucking big might be my favorite part of this show or less sanitized PR-type reports and scripts.
im sure it happens all the time but as a lifelong fat neetfag its just interesting to see everyone kind of having to look out for themselves because you can't count on the logistics at all.
its like the medic in band of brothers jumping in every fox hole to try and bum boots and morphine off people for the guys that need it more.
Interesting how the wire takes place after generation kill IRL but the shows were produced in the other order. Zig didn't become ray for like another 5 years
>logistics or artilery
Uh, he probably should have been in intelligence, think he could pick up a new language in record time.
He was an intelligence officer, and apparently a very good one, but his specialisation had absolutely nothing to do with field deployment and he was forced into it at the eleventh hour
The actual people involved said that he was good enough for the circumstances he found himself in, and while he did take an AK as a trophy he never fired it. He would panic a lot but was still considered a better officer than Encino Man, as he would pass information on promptly and concisely and trusted his subordinates.
Get the fuck out of here. And do not ever again mess with my thread. Fuck that. You can fuck with janny all you want, but do not, I repeat, do not fuck with my thread.
>Russia invading Ukraine is wrong! They bomb schools and apartment buildings! >I agree! >America invading Afghanistan is wrong! They bomb schools and apartment buildings! >NOOOOOOOOOOOO WE TOTALLY WANTED TO HELP LE WOMAN SHOOTING CHILDREN ACCIDENT WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Anything pussia does will always be in the wrong because they are the virgin of the world, while America is Chad. Sorry you picked the wrong horse to back 🙂
I sometimes wonder how many posters in threads like these are sitting in Eglin AFB being paid to shitpost. Like they have different divisions. The reddit team who have to act like the reddit crowd, the twitter squad who act like that and the Cinemaphile squad who need to shitpost as hard as possible.
>has there been anything comparable to generation kill made in the last 10 years?
Nah, there's no good sources lately for semi-realistic war dramas. We've already milled everything from the notable wars of the last 100 years. We probably won't see another kino like Generation Kill until after the Chink vs Island Chink war.
>We probably won't see another kino like Generation Kill until after the Chink vs Island Chink war
Nope, we won't see another kino because only massively overmatched enemies provided kino war material. Peer quality forces end up fighting a WW1 style war except they jump at fly because they think it's a drone overhead
A lot of the guys in my unit were watching this on my second fobbit deployment. I gave the first episode a try and dropped it thinking it was just going to be like jarhead the whole show where nothing happens. I thought it was silly watching a show about being bored on deployment while being bored on deployment. I recently gave it another shot and it turned out to be kino. I think i appreciate it now that I'm out even though it makes me upset i never had a combat deployment
i like how everyone gets progressively more disheveled and pissed as the series progresses but trombley actually gets more confident and by the end is clearly in his element
I love how third-worlders scream about americans shooting civilians while a common european and asiatic pastime is to compare how many civilians your country killed in the war and in what way
Just re-watched this Kino. Captain America really is the biggest piece of shit an it's amazing he didn't get anyone killed. Sending his men into a minefield in the dark then almost getting them killed again when he ordered them to drive off a "shortcut"? That's weaponized retardation.
I felt bad for Nate. He was drowning in retardation. He was a good LT who almost got taken down many times because he refused Encino Man's retarded orders.
In Fink’s book he has a better but less dramatic account of the invasion. Basically everyone who appeared incompetent in the show didn’t have combat experience from Afghanistan. The show makes them look retarded for dramatic effect.
Do amerimutts really expect me to believe there’s any kind of “schism” in Islam, let alone one that would cause significant sectarian violence in Iraq? Give me a fucking break.
"Be careful of the one on the right, he's got a Horse cock. Don't get that thing angry"
They didn't kill the Iraqis they admired their hogs
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There's an estimated like 150-220 thousand civilian casualties in the war so yeah.
A vast majority of those civilian deaths were caused by Insurgents however. Lots of car bombs and whatnot. We were probably responsible for about 30% of civvie deaths
Why fake the numbers like that if amerihogs arent even ashamed of killing civilians in the slightest?
No one faked the numbers. The numbers are real. But they are just the total number of civilian deaths. It's not attributed to either side. In reality it was mostly terrorist activity. When we kill civilians it's due to a fuckup and not policy, when Insurgents would kill civilians it's because they didn't give a fuck and would blow up a bunch of Shiites in a crowded Cafe
The 30% was pulled out of your ass is what i was saying
"Probably responsible"= a precise cited number. It's an estimation. If you look at how most civilian deaths occurred it was from random bombings and we didn't do those. For you I'll revise it to 33.25478%
You used your fair share of bombs
Pretty sure Obamna made sure of that
We definitely did blow up civilians but not indiscriminately and on purpose. AQ in Iraq blew would suicide bomb civilian centers all the time
>these arabs would always kill their own people for no reason
>but not us no way, only like a few maybe
Retard
There was a Sunni-Shia Civil War going on in the aftermath of the invasion. They literally were killing each other.
I also already admitted we killed a significant amount of the Civilians with our mistakes. You are a fucking mongoloid
>Sunni-Shia Civil War going on in the aftermath of the invasion.
Guess whos fault that is
>You are a fucking mongoloid
Instantly becomes defensive
Babykiller apologist
>Guess whos fault that is
mohammed for not leaving a proper path to succession and being a general retard and pedophile leading to a people of terminal inbreeding and low moral and intellectual worth?
he’s just trying to be subversive. nothing you say will satisfy him. just ignore and discuss kino.
Yeah I picked up on that. Some people just wanna argue.
In terms of Kino, one of the most underrated characters of the show is Lt. Fick. Fantastic
>I am assured that one day Generation Kill will be rightly recognized as one of the most high-quality kinos of the 21st century
>I am assured of this...
>whoopsie we accidentally killed a bunch of civilians on purpose but we said it was a mistake so it's ok for us to keep doing it for 2 decades... also you should feel bad for the poor brave soldiers that have hurt feelings from having killed all those women and children
Shut up homosexual
The us military is most cucked organization in the world
You commie victim larp is cringe
Based military chads should have destroyed your 3rd word village hovel but we all know it never happened
Should have though
shock and awe bombings on major population centers sure is a very precise way to go about killing insurgents and minimizing collateral damage
Were you around then? I remember turning on CNN and seeing Iraqis driving across the Tigris River going to work the next morning like any other day, shock and awe was blown out of proportion. They also memory holed the huge lines of civilians welcoming our army and waving along the roads and highways, there was never a bigger “owning the libs” moment when we knocked down Saddam’s statue and all the peaceniks and UN statists like Kofi Annan or Hans Blix were fuming. Unfortunately it all went to shit a month later with the insurgency. Truly a missed opportunity for real change in that region.
half the problem is the US didn't want to rule the middle east. they wanted a compliant vassal state that mostly solved its own shit.
shocker they didn't go for that.
The big issue is we had no plan for what came after removing Saddam. Like we didn’t guard the museums wtf, probably a huge chunk of the insurgency was funded by looted artifacts. Also firing all the Baathist officials and army was dumb too, a lot of the insurgents were just people doing it because they lost their job and got paid to fight and didn’t care about politics. It was incompetence of the highest level you almost think it was done on purpose.
>when we knocked down Saddam’s statue
I remember the US news playing that as the locals pulling it down and the cameras just happened to be there. Looked suspect as fuck even back then during the propaganda overdrive. So you're saying it really was a US military photo opportunity?
Yeah. Obviously. The Iwo Jima flag raising was a propaganda photo shoot. That shit happens all the time in war.
It's a big occasion wouldn't they set it up? I bet there were Americans there when the president was sworn in too.
That's not how it was portrayed at the time. It was shown as a spontaneous event showing how "it's liberation, not invasion". The propaganda from that time was interesting.
Crazy how everyone these days has completely forgotten about the last twenty years and what was really happening.
We’re all ok with collectively forgetting the war on terror. Especially Iraq 2.0.
No Big Macs and slurpees for you hajis.
It really shoildn't be forgotten by anyone because the US will just get the popilace backing to do it again in an endless cycle until someone gets big enough to slap the mutts the fuck down. There's still a chsnce that could be China so I'll support them outside of some of their bullshit, but it might take a while.
They did the video twice. One where they put the American flag over his face, and one where they put the iraqi flag over his face. Both edited differently for different audiences. Of course it was propaganda.
>the huge lines of civilians welcoming our army and waving along the roads and highways
> moment when we knocked down Saddam’s statue
the reason "Unfortunately it all went to shit a month later" was because these were photo ops and didn't accurately represent the attitude of the Iraqis. I don't understand how you can mention these 2 overtly staged events in the same sentence as "Unfortunately it all went to shit a month later with the insurgency." and not realize this.
>When we kill civilians it's due to a fuckup and not policy
KEK, yeah all those videos of you passing on civilians and torturing them were just an accident
No that was just fun
to be fair, America is the only country that commit warcrimes by accident or incompetence, they call it Oopsies of War
There are no such thing as civilians sweetie
>were caused by Insurgents
>iraqi police catch brits dressed like civilians with bombs
>american military destroys police station and retrieves them
yeah those pesky local insurgents blowing up praing houses to stir religious war....
>sectarian muslims don't bomb opposition mosques
L O L
Drone war 90% civilian death rate.
TCD
Generation Kill is the best war/military series ever. Taught me how to be American, and white at the same time.
Can you explain more ? I’ve only seen 1 episode
No but they blew them up with air strikes
The scenes where they are observing peaceful villages and then a huge explosion randomly obliterates it are pure kino. Horrifying but Kino
The final scene of the soldiers leaving one-by-one as the video montage turns from goofy acting clips to real footage of dead Iraqis is pretty powerful too
My personal favorite part was when the Marines started attacking each other during the football game. Showed how much stress they had bottled up. Encino Man deserved it, Rudy always seemed nice to Ray so it was a bit random
Ray was just bugging from lack of caffeine pills and took his frustration out on Rudy, even Rudy acknowledges he fucked up beating on him too much in the same scene. Agreed on Encino Man though, seeing Patterson deck him was, sadly enough, a highlight of the show for me.
Were they really caffeine pills or a stand in for something else? They seem so effective it was throwing me off. Any time i try taking them rather than staying awake i just want to throw up and go to bed. withdrawal with those is bad?
A quick search reveals them to be a B12/Niacin supplement jam packed with a bunch of other shit (including caffeine). Probably awful but I imagine it gets the job done for energy if you take enough.
I thought it was based off those body building supplements that were legal back then. Ephedrine I think it was
banned in 04.
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Ripped fuel. Kept you awake and made your pee a nice orange hue.
The real life Ray said that there was only one pill each for the invasion. The recurring presence was for the show as was the fight at the end.
Nah. Go pills were fucking everywhere at the time.
That didn't happen it was made up for the show> The real Ray has a reddit account, posts occasionally
Might as well just ask, can you to greentext any of his facts or anecdotes you found interesting or remember?
I heard on commentary or interviews he gets really embarrassed when people quote some of his lines back at him.
>You're just like the jock assholes in school!
thats some baggage. guess he did sing avril lavigne and grow up in a trailer park.
That line was said with all the angst of a Man who was shoved into lockers. It hurts to hear it
>That line was said with all the angst of a Man who was shoved into lockers. It hurts to hear it
Kek, spot on. I hate it.
Never happened made up for the show
Doesn't matter I still came to it
He wasn't played by the real guy either, not sure I get your point. It's a good bit of acting that felt genuine.
He was playing a real guy. And Rudy was playing himself. Seems kind of weird to fabricate a post-invasion stress meltdown
No shit? That's pretty cool
>guess he did sing avril lavigne
What's wrong with singing to Avril's music?
My favorite civilian death on this show is when they go to shoot the smoke grenade and blow up the refugees head
I think he survived in the book
he lived somehow
No but they should have
So back to the kino at hand
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Don't forget Trombley immediately after asking "Your dad was a truck driver?"
Scenes women will never understand
Great show, just rewatched it. It’s honest, its gritty and realistic and doesn’t romantisize things. No character development, just men being the brothers they are whule making fucked up, racist jokes about eachother and nobody getting butthurt. Fucking 10/10.
Also Sixta was arrested for child molesting
we dont talk about that
>ya pubic hair's in violation
POLEESE DAT BUSH
he misapproat'd that minor by attemptin fornicashun wif
>POLICE THAT dicky
Question for the Yanks -- What kinda accent was that? I know it's somewhere in the southern US, but where specifically?
Well if you get to the end you would see that it's entirely an act
I suppose, but still it must have some reference point. What does it draw on?
When he's not doing a ridiculous over the top "hick retard" accent he just sounds mildly southern. I'm American and I can hardly tell the difference.
Kentucky
Oh, not American then?
Where the American in Sharpe from? Texas? He's says something similar when asked where he's from and you reminding me gave me a little chuckle.
been all over the us. it is indeed, Kentucky
Cotton Hill impression
mid south US: west of the Appalachians, east of the Mississippi, south of the Ohio river, north of the cotton belt
YOU ARE UNSIGHTLY, UNSANITARY AND IN VIOLATIONS OF GODFATHER'S GROOMING STANDARDS
>Also Sixta was arrested for child molesting
Looks like somebody followed the grooming standards!
Carlos!
Don't ask, don't tell.
if only he remembered to pohleece that hard drive
Yes. But, the IA/IP wounded a lot more. Like a 1-7 ratio. The locals would dump bodies in this open field at night, and every morning we would have to go out there and count them/ID them before we had them picked up. We called it the G-spot.
>we called it the G-spot
Bless the Troops
>Iraq 2007
>We only had one TV for the whole paltoon. So we had movie night, every night.
>Local haji would bring us bootleg DVDs with movies on them for the cheap.
>Watching the 1987 predator with Arnold Schwarzenegger in it.
>Everyone joking around in Arnold's voice after the movie.
>Next day, be at G-spot
>See haji that had lower jaw blown out with a high calibar round.
>My sergeant points out he looks like the predator
>The platoon spends the rest of the day speaking like Arnold over the radio.
War. War is hell.
GET TO DAH HUMMAH
Comfy
If they were more like trombley they could have won that war.
We won nearly 100% of every battle we had and had an insane K/D ratio but it's pointless to try and democracy build in a savage shithole where they just wanted to kill each other over ethnic/religious differences. After awhile it wasn't worth it to spend trillions on saving an unsaveable people. Especially when every other day they would set IEDs that would take out a row of humvees.
>all the people we lost? those weren't battles.
>those times when we killed a bunch of people? those were battles!
what? Are you considering any engagement where a single american died as... not a battle? Wtf is your point? No one is denying Americans died.
>it's pointless to try and democracy build in a savage shithole
Do americans really think this was the goal?
That's been our modus operandi since the Cold War, anon.
>build nation with regime friendly to us
>USA sphere of influence grows
>more allies than commies
>bigger economy than commies
>bigger and better trade options with created allies
>new allies enjoy US tech, trade and protection
>US gets another base or two to surround dirty commies with
so that's your plan and you just happen to fail at it every time while helping israel's geopolitic goals. what a whacky coincidence
Reminder that the only reason ISIS didn't take over all of Iraq like the Taliban is because of a desperate counteroffensive on the outskirts of the capital, led by tribal and Shia militias with roots in the local culture whose existence was contrary to American doctrine
If the Americans had done any better at replacing local institutions with shitty copies of western ones, they would have just given the whole country to ISIS on a silver platter
Who do you think armed ISIS in the first place?
Mossad and CIA collab
>K/D ratio
all you need to know about the content of this person's character
You clearly have never 360 no scoped a filthy hajee
>pointless to try and democracy build in a savage shithole where they just wanted to kill each other over ethnic/religious differences
Yeah, The Troubles were a tumultuous time for Ireland
>the dog shit gets brought up again with civilian stuff
>he actually starts getting a little annoyed at being called a psychopath
>pouts and spits out "I like cats!..." to try a show a shred of humanity
>he and the rest all just kind of go silent
i felt bad
I've never joined the military, but there is something appealing that Generation Kill gets about shooting the shit with your battle buddies and singing some tunes in your Humvee. I don't think I'd half mind getting drafted in the Chink-Taiwan War.
>show about terrible waste of time and resources war where the characters shoot civilians at every corner
>damn dude that looks comfy
Mutts...
It looks comfy as fuck, homosexual
t. Swede
Go to ukraine homosexual.
homosexual
>um you can't have le bonding moment because the heckin civilian did an unalive
>Thinking about dying for the US
>Unironically dying so that trannies can make videos topless at the white house
Meh, just give me some comfy logistics job where I can goof around all day and I'll be a happy anon
>Gets his headquarters blown up and his insides turn into a soup
Cool job
As long as it's quick, I don't care. Tie me to a fuckin ICBM and launch me at Fuzhou, I'm ready.
No one "dies for the US" anymore. Ever since we left Afghanistan, the only thing our military does is help South Korea "defend" for a war that will never happen, fuck Jap poon in Okinawa, turn Poland into a bigger military power than it deserves to be, and teach Ukrainian soldiers the many ways to kill a Russian.
with exception to the people they leave abandoned when exiting one of their shithole projects but they are 3rd party contractors mostly
People say it all the time but it really was like a roadtrip movie.
Most military kino ends up being a lot of marching and bouncing blown out building to blown out building which is much less appealing.
>tfw every aptitude test had USMC Officer for #1
>tfw grandpa(WWII Army vet) great uncle(WWII Navy Pilot) and every coach and male teacher I had told me I'd make one helluva marine
>tfw destroy my knee at 15
>tfw no branch would take me
My dad got his leg fucked up so badly in training with the Royal Marines that he couldn't continue. He plays it off like it was no big deal, but I can tell that it really broke his dream to serve just as his dad had done.
Should have gone to the IC and become a glowie instead.
It's like a road movie with your pals and some occasional shoot outs here and there, I guess that's the appeal of the series for people.
I'm joining as an officer after I'm done university. Granted it's gonna be the Canadian Army and I'm gonna be 30 by the time I finish BMOQ but I still feel really happy with the decision. My grandfather and uncle did 11 years each. There is something really gratifying at being apart of a big, cohensive movement with your best friends even when it's war.
Although I'm not stupid. I'm trying for a nursing officer. They don't send medical professionals in the first waves over the trenches.
Being in the Canadian army is like LARPing as military like the tactifat guys on youtube
>big cohesive movement
I too want to follow some geriatric retards orders who sends people to die for....???
Canada used to be known to produce the highest quality infantry in the world.
Used to.
They still do. I met some Canadian sf guys once at a training thing and they were a ton of fun while still being highly skilled soldiers. Every interaction I've had with Canadian soldiers has been positive, and they do a lot of things differently as a matter of doctrine that the US could stand to emulate.
Could you guys beat them in a war or would they capture seattle
I mean I imagine probably? That might be more of a quantity over quality situation though. And I'm sure the useless shitbags in the Canadian forces don't come to places where they'd give the country a bad name so I may have only ever met the cream of the crop.
>Being in the Canadian army is like LARPing as military
Except that the Canadian army has been apraised as having the best trained soldiers in every war they've faught. The issue is Canada is 30yrs behind on miltiary technology.
also that the canadian people were from the UK and now are from china, india and whatever other shitholes
>Canadian Army
Kill yourself bud.
>joining Ukraine's lapdog army
Tired of hearing from Russians about anything. You genuinely figured "nah fuck just cracking jokes about the cold war with the rest of the internet, time to NOT fix our massive abortion, homosexual, AIDS, drugs, and sociopathy problems and INSTEAD show how MANLY we all are by invading those guys we starved into cannibalism last century again because they NEED to be part of us and should look back fondly on being starved by the Eastern Bloc."
And then you LOST so humiliatingly and convincingly with every advantage and no direct NATO opposition, just due to your own stupidity and inability to maintain anything, that you have the homosexual cancer killing the west jumping on the Azov nazi bandwagon and trying to downplay it because they know they're backing a winning horse and will get to LARP as "real Americans".
Enough bullshit, you're pathetic.
>Tired of hearing from Russians about anything. You genuinely figured "nah fuck just cracking jokes about the cold war with the rest of the internet, time to NOT fix our massive abortion, homosexual, AIDS, drugs, and sociopathy problems and INSTEAD show how MANLY we all are by invading those guys we starved into cannibalism last century again because they NEED to be part of us and should look back fondly on being starved by the Eastern Bloc."
And then you LOST so humiliatingly and convincingly with every advantage and no direct NATO opposition, just due to your own stupidity and inability to maintain anything, that you have the homosexual cancer killing the west jumping on the Azov nazi bandwagon and trying to downplay it because they know they're backing a winning horse and will get to LARP as "real Americans".
Enough bullshit, you're pathetic.
instead of getting ptsd from killing civilian, now you'll have ptsd from mercy killing soldier with fucked up injury
>Joined the OTC in university because I was a boyscout and always enjoyed that sort of thing
>Spend the majority of it being subjected to Downtown Abbey tier classism by the other officer cadets
>Figure whatever, I'm sure it's different when you get past the first two years
>Riding along one day with a senior under officer, theoretically the cream of the crop
>Ask some insignificant question and he goes on a tangent for maybe twenty minutes to disguise that he doesn't know the answer, I realise about ten words in that he's full of shit
>Realise that if I went further then I'd have to trust my life to fuckwits of his IQ level or lower
I decided not to commission at minute four and started considering suicide by minute nine.
>Nate ended up becoming a multimillionaire CEO of a cybersecurity company
Goddamn he was way too competent for the Marines
Did tanks riding by really make soldiers put their dicks in the dirt?
no, just ray.
railgasms are great though.
>all of them ended up relatively successful besides Pedo Sixta
What happened to eating crayons and being homeless?
Got caught grooming.
Grooooooming standard!
better veteran support and 99% of the time is just rolling around chilling with bros and guns.
The homeless thing is a more Vietnam era thing. Any "veteran" you see fucked up outside the military. It always pissed me off when I was in, that around base homeless would get second hand uniforms from the thrift store or something and wear them like the military just kicked them out with only the clothes on their backs
Lmfao yeah I never thought about it that way. Like they had no other clothes. Kek
There's this hobo in my town who swans around in DPM (right) saying the army fucked him over, when he would have been around 12/13 when CS95 MTP (left) was issued.
He gets beaten up all the time because about a third of my town is serving forces and everybody knows the army doesn't just kick you out but lets you keep their property, it's all surplus he's bought for pitybaiting.
Getting 100s of thousands of taxpayer money after getting out can even make the most low iq individuals successful, they’re called welfare babies for a reason
Because you are influenced by propaganda to despise your country and insist that white men keep paying for everyone else to sit around and be jobless obese rats, yes.
She doesn't deserve him
Yeah
I've watched numerous interviews with Iraqi's talking about retarded American millenial homosexuals blowing off the local bakers head with a 50cal because they thought the pita he was holding was a gun
this shit is why it's so funny americans so against the ukraine war while they did 100x more damage in Iraq and afghanistan
To civilians maybe, but the combatant deaths in Ukraine are way more (at least proportional to the time elapsed)
its because ukraine actually can fight back vs USA bombing dirt poor peasants in mud huts
oh, you mean russians.
Fuck yeah we wrecked those goatfuckers
>goatfuckers vs dogfuckers
It's poetic.
I thought only white women fucked dogs
Americans are in fact white when the joke requires.
It's more of a burger thing in general. Like daddy taking the family dog out for a walk and it comes back walking funny kek.
all the stuff about Iceman and Ray kitting out the humvee on their own time and dime, the shit with the gun oil for the turret, or the medic when they got to the city and he realized the crowd was just too fucking big might be my favorite part of this show or less sanitized PR-type reports and scripts.
im sure it happens all the time but as a lifelong fat neetfag its just interesting to see everyone kind of having to look out for themselves because you can't count on the logistics at all.
its like the medic in band of brothers jumping in every fox hole to try and bum boots and morphine off people for the guys that need it more.
That shit from BoB is 100% real. I miss my medic buddies bro.
Any stories?
A medics perspective is always fascinating, I can't believe it isn't more commonly used than it is.
the spinoff was kino
Interesting how the wire takes place after generation kill IRL but the shows were produced in the other order. Zig didn't become ray for like another 5 years
Good the more humanity dead the better
Shitpost 1-2 this is shitpost actual. How copy?
Shitpost actual this is homosexual-1 Actual, does anyone copy?!?! HOLY SHIT THE HAJIS JUST THREW ROCKS AT US, REQUEST AIR SUPPORT OVER
Captain Summer is a fucking retard.
"We are sitting fucking ducks out here. We are all gonna die!!!"
>go on imdb to look up who played captain america
>see this as i scroll
what the fuck
>be Lanklet
>have any leg mass
Pick one
>This is a niiice place for an ambush, why the fuck are we stopped?
>Captain America was apparently a literal genius but he had massive anxiety problems
Dude probably should've gone into logisitics or artilery.
>logistics or artilery
Uh, he probably should have been in intelligence, think he could pick up a new language in record time.
Junior intelligence officers spent a lot of time in the field because, you know, their job is to gather intel.
He was an intelligence officer, and apparently a very good one, but his specialisation had absolutely nothing to do with field deployment and he was forced into it at the eleventh hour
The actual people involved said that he was good enough for the circumstances he found himself in, and while he did take an AK as a trophy he never fired it. He would panic a lot but was still considered a better officer than Encino Man, as he would pass information on promptly and concisely and trusted his subordinates.
Huh you learn something new every day
Get the fuck out of here. And do not ever again mess with my thread. Fuck that. You can fuck with janny all you want, but do not, I repeat, do not fuck with my thread.
Yes
The modern USA is everything the old USA said the USSR was
But even gayer
>Russia invading Ukraine is wrong! They bomb schools and apartment buildings!
>I agree!
>America invading Afghanistan is wrong! They bomb schools and apartment buildings!
>NOOOOOOOOOOOO WE TOTALLY WANTED TO HELP LE WOMAN SHOOTING CHILDREN ACCIDENT WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>schools and apartment buildings in afghanistan
You mean aq training centers and caves
Anything pussia does will always be in the wrong because they are the virgin of the world, while America is Chad. Sorry you picked the wrong horse to back 🙂
Russia is gay but so is Khazaria
Nonstop seethe
I sometimes wonder how many posters in threads like these are sitting in Eglin AFB being paid to shitpost. Like they have different divisions. The reddit team who have to act like the reddit crowd, the twitter squad who act like that and the Cinemaphile squad who need to shitpost as hard as possible.
uh you dont get to bring friends
I got cut from the 9gag unit and they won't even give me my veteran's benefits
WHOPPER JUNIOR
nah, they tended to miss a lot.
has there been anything comparable to generation kill made in the last 10 years?
Screen junkies pitch meetings
I appreciate what optimism you have for even asking.
sas rogue heroes
Unfortunately Democrats aren't upset about the US police wars in the middle east anymore and they're the ones making all the tv shows and movies.
Kino about Pat Tillman getting iced for whistleblowing when?
>has there been anything comparable to generation kill made in the last 10 years?
Nah, there's no good sources lately for semi-realistic war dramas. We've already milled everything from the notable wars of the last 100 years. We probably won't see another kino like Generation Kill until after the Chink vs Island Chink war.
>We probably won't see another kino like Generation Kill until after the Chink vs Island Chink war
Nope, we won't see another kino because only massively overmatched enemies provided kino war material. Peer quality forces end up fighting a WW1 style war except they jump at fly because they think it's a drone overhead
A lot of the guys in my unit were watching this on my second fobbit deployment. I gave the first episode a try and dropped it thinking it was just going to be like jarhead the whole show where nothing happens. I thought it was silly watching a show about being bored on deployment while being bored on deployment. I recently gave it another shot and it turned out to be kino. I think i appreciate it now that I'm out even though it makes me upset i never had a combat deployment
>marine recon battalion during the first stages of the invasion
>thinking nothing happened
Yup that's a fobbit
>aw man, maybe I'm going to have PTSD after all that shit we just did
>Trombley stays and picks up his SAW when the video is over
Kino ending
i like how everyone gets progressively more disheveled and pissed as the series progresses but trombley actually gets more confident and by the end is clearly in his element
They should have been more like Trombley.
Iraq deserved to get invaded
Uhh can we talk about Uyghur muslim instead?
moreso
>kills a greek guy
>avoids prison by joining the army and going to Iraq under a new name
not very realistic in my opinion
Part of Nicks plea deal.
I hope so
I love how third-worlders scream about americans shooting civilians while a common european and asiatic pastime is to compare how many civilians your country killed in the war and in what way
those sandnaggers deserved it for being shitskins
Just re-watched this Kino. Captain America really is the biggest piece of shit an it's amazing he didn't get anyone killed. Sending his men into a minefield in the dark then almost getting them killed again when he ordered them to drive off a "shortcut"? That's weaponized retardation.
I felt bad for Nate. He was drowning in retardation. He was a good LT who almost got taken down many times because he refused Encino Man's retarded orders.
Should read the book. They dumbed it down and removed stuff in the show because they didn't think the audience would believe all the stupidity
In Fink’s book he has a better but less dramatic account of the invasion. Basically everyone who appeared incompetent in the show didn’t have combat experience from Afghanistan. The show makes them look retarded for dramatic effect.
"I want people to know we fought retarded"
Also what the fuck ever happened to PJ Ransome? In two of the biggest HBO kinos then... Nothing for 15 years. I miss his goofy ass.
because they are:
>muslim
>poor
>brown
Also they smell like shit
>ywn accidentally commit a war crime but it's OK because you followed the ROE
Do amerimutts really expect me to believe there’s any kind of “schism” in Islam, let alone one that would cause significant sectarian violence in Iraq? Give me a fucking break.
The first casualty of war is truth.
There absolutely is a Sunni-Shia divide that is serious. Hence the Iran-Iraq war
no
amerikee bad
600+ civilians a day in Iraq. Targeting weddings and funerals is the norm for US.