X-Men 97 Flops

In spite of mostly positive reviews from both sides of the culture war, Disney’s X-Men 97 appears to be a complete flop in terms of viewership. For weeks now, the show hasn’t managed to break into the Nielsen Top 10 rankings, making it the worst-performing Marvel show on Disney+. In spite of the initial news that the show had managed to draw in 4 Million views for its debut episode, which was one of the most viewed premieres for a Disney+ show, the series doesn’t seem to be retaining viewers.

Worse yet, the show doesn’t seem to have brought it new subscribers or given any reason for old subscribers to renew. Although the show does appear to be a faithful adaptation, it appears that’s not enough to stop Disney+’s decline. There are reasons why the show may have had a much more chaotic start than was ever necessary.

With the Neilsen and Samba ratings released, X-Men ’97 doesn’t appear on the charts. This makes history for Disney+ as the series is performing worse than Ms. Marvel and What If? which both at least hit the top 10 of streaming for the Disney+ service.

Early on, a lot of the marketing became tainted with potential fans when the character of Morph was declared to be Non-Binary. This change made little sense, given the character showed no signs of this, and the terminology did not exist back in the 90’s when the show was meant to take place. This arbitrary change may have managed to eventually be accepted by former fans of the show, but fan accounts would then continue to throw gasoline onto the fire by accusing those upset of being ‘bigots’. As well as saying how the X-Men aren’t for them and they shouldn’t bother to watch.

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Even with the positive reviews that came in after the debut in March the brand appeared to already be tainted. For some, it was best to just not watch since they were being told not to, and others just lost interest in another culture war battle over the cartoon. And while the initial premiere was viewed by subscribers of Disney+ and was popular for the platform it seems to not be able to retain all of those initial viewers who seem to have lost interest in keeping up with the show weekly. Meanwhile, more diehard fans of the comics who would be the target audience for a show that’s directly adapting storylines have already given plenty of reason not to give Disney another cent.

    Although it’s impossible to say just how much this has impacted the potential viewers of the show. Instead, the true failure is that Disney+ as a platform is simply not worth the money in costs. While a cost of $7.99 per month(with ads) is hardly that much in the budget, the actual content received is much too minimal when compared to what is offered on Netflix & Hulu. Even if the potential customers who were chased away by abysmal marketing came back, the actual expense for the account just wouldn’t make sense. Disney+ simply does not have enough content to keep up an active subscriber base, and with them pulling back on original content, there will be even less reason to have a Disney+ account.

    X-Men 97 should have been a far bigger premiere for the platform. For it to be truly successful, it needed to bring in new and returning customers. Unfortunately, it did not. On top of that, its viewership appears to have dwindled significantly.

    That said, the show is being reviewed positively and seems to have generated a loyal fan base, so the likelihood of another season is going to be high. However, there may be cuts to the budget as the series will also need to find a new person to lead its production after firing the creator, Beau De Mayo, prior to the release.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There’s still been no real reason given for the sudden and unexpected termination. And in an interview back in March, Brad Winderbaum, who heads the animation department for Marvel Studios, was vague on any real details. Since news of the termination, De Mayo’s social media accounts were scrubbed clean, only adding further to the mystery. However, his contributions to the second season are already completed so the quality of the show likely will not change too much for fans.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      People dont want quality I see.
      Marvel will keep it on as they are desperate for anything with good reviews after last year.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Or it's cause "listening to fans" is a meme. The reality is they don't have talented, knowledgeable staff. Had that been the case, they would have known that X-men evolution and Wolverine & the X-men failed as well.

    Animated adaptions aren't meant to be successful. The Marvel movies were a fluke. They exist to advertise the comics and toys. Thinking it was ever going to drive Disney+ subs is a mistake.

    TLDR; The comics suck and mining the good shit for adaptions don't matter to normies.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Had that been the case, they would have known that X-men evolution and Wolverine & the X-men failed as well.

      I thought X-Men Evolution did okay given it got four seasons, even if the last one was truncated severely and that the writing team had more planned.

      Fair enough on Wolverine and the X-Men, though airing on Nickelodeon with absolutely fricked scheduling probably didn't help.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It filled a spot and it was realtively cheap.
        it wasn't popular.

        https://i.imgur.com/6fXFOi8.jpeg

        In spite of mostly positive reviews from both sides of the culture war, Disney’s X-Men 97 appears to be a complete flop in terms of viewership. For weeks now, the show hasn’t managed to break into the Nielsen Top 10 rankings, making it the worst-performing Marvel show on Disney+. In spite of the initial news that the show had managed to draw in 4 Million views for its debut episode, which was one of the most viewed premieres for a Disney+ show, the series doesn’t seem to be retaining viewers.

        Worse yet, the show doesn’t seem to have brought it new subscribers or given any reason for old subscribers to renew. Although the show does appear to be a faithful adaptation, it appears that’s not enough to stop Disney+’s decline. There are reasons why the show may have had a much more chaotic start than was ever necessary.

        With the Neilsen and Samba ratings released, X-Men ’97 doesn’t appear on the charts. This makes history for Disney+ as the series is performing worse than Ms. Marvel and What If? which both at least hit the top 10 of streaming for the Disney+ service.

        Early on, a lot of the marketing became tainted with potential fans when the character of Morph was declared to be Non-Binary. This change made little sense, given the character showed no signs of this, and the terminology did not exist back in the 90’s when the show was meant to take place. This arbitrary change may have managed to eventually be accepted by former fans of the show, but fan accounts would then continue to throw gasoline onto the fire by accusing those upset of being ‘bigots’. As well as saying how the X-Men aren’t for them and they shouldn’t bother to watch.

        Feige is pushing for it to be a flop so they can kill it and use it's corpse to shit out live action x-men LITTERAL homosexualry.

        Why do you think they made a big deal out of deadpool not being part of the xmen cartoon?

        It's advertisement for live action x-men properties and IP. It was a stunt and never going to last.

        Also...the not even subtle jab at epstein in the show was way to good to not miss.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >It filled a spot and it was realtively cheap.
          >it wasn't popular.

          [citation needed]

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      TV shows can't make a profit on their own. They do it from ads, merch, home video, syndication and licensing out to other platforms. Ratings/views exist to gauge popularity to see if it's possible for the actual moneymakers to turn a profit. They should've had tie-ins and merch prepared to pair up with the show to actually make a profit.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The current merchandising landscape is very different from where it was decades ago, now movies or shows barely get any toys, video games, tie-in supplemental material. Their successes are now gauged entirely on their popularity in social media and if they're lucky then maybe they get a tie-in side book.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It doesn't matter. They will release season 2. None of this stuff is supposed to make money.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >the chud seethes as the normies enjoy things he hates

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Go back to r*ddit

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    God you are so moronic

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Frick off marketer.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        you first moron

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >HURR DURR, WE SHOULD BASE RATINGS ON IMMEDIATE VIEWS AND ONLY ONE SEASON

    >HURR DURR THERE ARE NO BINGE WATCHERS THAT WAIT FOR MULTIPLE SEASONS OF SOMETHING

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      FOX has done that for decades.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Tried watching it, the animation hurt my eyes. It was terrible.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I admit the animation could have been better but it wasn't that bad really. I have seen shows with far worse animation

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah it's cheap as frick flash animation.
      THey can't even afford to have background mutants and supers.
      It's that cheap

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I admit the animation could have been better but it wasn't that bad really. I have seen shows with far worse animation

      Yeah it's cheap as frick flash animation.
      THey can't even afford to have background mutants and supers.
      It's that cheap

      What I don't get is all the people that keep saying "it looks even better than the original", when even in still shots that's clearly not the case. I don't think this new shot looks atrocious or anything (personal opinion), but it still leaves a fair deal to be desired even if it has moments that are impressive.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >people
        Shills and people looking to parrot an opinion they don't believe to get engagement you mean.

        It's impossible to find real earnest opinions becasue..well.

        We basically have the thing that's going on in china with narrative control but on coroporate scale.

        Incentivize their controlled voices and ideas.
        Downplay honest opinion.
        Lie about real engagement numbers
        Hide those people they can't control or says inconvenient things
        Can't even find open forums to discuss things anymore
        Google is DOA as a search engine.

        It's all fricked.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Every time a new marvel product is announced you go to the facebook page that announces it and all the top comments are 30 year olds acting like its the greatest thing ever and 0 criticism. This was most disgusting when they announced the duck tails reboot. No kids giving a frick just 30 year olds

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Nielsen - the site no one was giving attention anymore because both it and Sambatv can only gather partial information given by specific smart tvs using specific apps - is now suddently spammed again because grifters can't find anything to b***h about
    yawn.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You gonna link the source you obviously copypasta'd this from OP?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      OP is a liar.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Of course.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That is not an accomplishment. X-Men '97 did not do well.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Maybe.....just maybe......hear me out.....ready? Stop pandering to just gen x and millennials? Wow. You are losing zoomers to tik tok and other stupid shit and you aren't even trying to retain them and are just giving up on them which is a terrible long term strategy. Stop trying to bring everything back from the 80's and 90's and I say this as an older millennial who grew up on this cartoon. Was it cool to watch? Sure? Was it necessary? No

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Maybe.....just maybe......hear me out.....ready?
      Just a couple of years ago anons would've called you a redditor and told you to have a nice day and they would be perfectly justified in doing so.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yea well we won that war and this site is basically reddit 2 so deal with it incel

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's Gen X and Millennials that have the money Disney and other companies want. Zoomies don't have the buying power they require. They figured that nostalgiagayging would work, and, for the most part, they're not entirely wrong.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Its a great short term goal but we will eventually stop being a market then what?

        >market to zoomers

        high republic failed

        Yea I mean you still have to create quality things.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >still have to create quality things
          That's a myth and you know it. Zoomers get free shit on tiktok and youtube. They have been raised to not buy or watch shit. Instead, they listen to some "shill" or "grifter" praise/criticize a show then parrot that opinion. Very few Zoomers actually consume non-recycled product.

          Funfact: Japan doesn't have this problem cause they don't have "Fair Use" over there. Just a thought.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            But you just made the point. There is shit they consume so you have to create a product that matches the shit they enjoy or die. You probably need to hire zoomers but that won't happen since they only hire boomers who make horrible judgement calls about what the younger gens want

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Make something zoomers enjoy
              >They don't support the product and watch youtube instead

              To put things in perspective, this is what Zoomers watch instead of reading comic books.

              All for free, no need to support/read/watch the actual product.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Sorry, but marvel and dc Ip are seen as shit now.

                Remeber voice acted and soud effect filled motion comics from back in the day?

                Yeah, they have taken over.
                Comics are fricked forever for both not being able t produce content for that open burdgeoning market nor entice actual talent that likes their IP and would produce things that could use to sell their IP for free

                Very VERY few writers and artists and editors can produce something that people outside of comics give a single solitary frick about IRL and simply churning out shit weekly nonstop is no longer viable or needed.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >>They don't support
                Again why would they support woke garbage?

                >To put things in perspective, this is what Zoomers watch instead of reading comic books.

                Good. If this is true then maybe Marvel should shit out videos like this officially

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Let me stop you right there. Officially there are videos to BUY comics like this.

                What was posted is a guy READING the entire comic and spoiling everything so you don't have to buy anything. It only exists due to the ad revenue from youtube being so small that Marvel, DC, etc. don't care.

                Problem: Long term its made a whole host of "fans" who have never bought the product. Mostly Zoomers.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Officially there are videos to BUY comics like this.
                That's a digital comic right? That's not the same thing that you linked to, a guy that talks about old comic lore. What I am saying is that since you say they like that, Marvel should replicate that. Hell they can even have official writers and artists explain things they created while talking about it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >That's a digital comic right?
                No. It's an ad to buy comic books like this one.

                >Marvel should do what that guy does
                The youtube ad revenue isn't worth it. Furthermore, to be effective, Marvel would have to copyright strike any "unofficial" videos on youtube which I don't think you want to happen.

                You seem to be actively missing the point: Most Zoomers don't buy comic books. They watch FOR FREE, people read them on youtube, tiktok, etc. Quality is irrelevant cause they are used to getting shit for free? How do you get them to actually buy comic books?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >The youtube ad revenue isn't worth it. Furthermore, to be effective, Marvel would have to copyright strike any "unofficial" videos on youtube which I don't think you want to happen.
                Paywall it or put it on Disney plus as a show. The benefit of Disney is they have access to the people that created those comics and any special relics that came from doing it.

                >You seem to be actively missing the point: Most Zoomers don't buy comic books. They watch FOR FREE, people read them on youtube, tiktok, etc.

                and you are missing mine. If they are watching this then make that. Maybe it will draw them to comics. If it doesn't well time to end paper comics then I guess. Times change.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Paywall it
                Rooster Teeth tried doing that. Didn't work cause Zoomers don't buy stuff. Note how one of the criticisms of X-men 97 is that it didn't drive Disney+ subscriber growth.
                >End paper comics
                Digital comics do far worse. And Zoomers don't buy those either.

                I'll ask you again: How do you get Zoomers to actually buy comic books?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Two things
                1.Rooster teeth creates shit product. The zoomers will pay for good product and to be part of a group of peers.

                2.More zooomers children and adults are watching digital comics on youtube then are paying 10 dollars for 32 pages of phoned in ESG/DEI complaince written usually by hacks and drawn by other hacks.

                And those digital comics on youtube are making money right now with every view even as we speak

                The real problem is that comics no longer have a captive audience and market and have to compete. And simply can't.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Digital comics on youtube
                Can I get a link to that? First I've heard of this.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Just type comic or manga and most of your stuff will be about people reading popular comics and manga and people discussing them in the comments.
                It's more active and open then subreddits and most forums.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Note how one of the criticisms of X-men 97 is that it didn't drive Disney+ subscriber growth.
                Cool but this isn't that. This is what we both agreed something zoomers actually want so that may push them to subscribe.

                >Digital comics do far worse. And Zoomers don't buy those either.
                I mean that wasn't my suggestion I was more considering stopping comics all together.
                >I'll ask you again: How do you get Zoomers to actually buy comic books?
                No Idea since I wasn't arguing this. If they don't buy them then end them.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >No idea
                Well, you remember what I said about Marvel having to copyright strike all the comic videos on youtube? That's what Manga companies do.

                You've seen the meme: Why don't American comics do what Manga does? If they did, comic books would sell a little bit more but the cost of that would lead to a LOT of bystander casualties.
                >If they don't buy then end them
                Or you could actively attack Zoomers who pirate which does work. Keep this in mind the next time you say something stupid like "end comics".

                That's why I focus on getting Zoomer to actually buy comics cause the nuclear option is the NUCLEAR OPTION and nobody wants that.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why did you ignore the first half of my post? You can't pick and choose what argument to reply too. I have addressed everything you asked

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Answer the question: How you do get Zoomers to buy comics? Cause this is about BUYING COMICS.

                >ignore the first half
                See what I said about Rooster Teeth.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I answered your question. If they aren't buying it then end it. I didn't say anything about Rooster teeth because I agree, Disney+ is probably the better path. Address the parts of my post you ignored.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >End comics
                Then the nuclear option it is. Copyright strike everything.

                Zoomers don't subscribe to stuff either. There is no paid content you can make that will get them to actually subscribe so long as free fair use stuff exist on youtube. Ergo copyright strike everything. That is the answer.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Address the points in my post you ignored. This isn't going to be one of those back and forths where you ignore inconvenient arguments.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Copyright strike everything and be as draconian as the manga publishers. That's how you get them to subscribe and buy comics. That answers everything.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                But I don't think they even care to pirate comics to begin with

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Don't...just let them lie to themselves.
                There is no one pirating comics or even reading them if they were free.
                It's just bad product and total lack of fricks to give about the IP overall.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's not entirely true. This is bad product but evidently, someone is reading it for free.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                5k views in a series that's years old?
                Anon...
                There are videos about a farmer and his talking cat and bunnies that net hundreds of thousands of views in a day.

                Real views.

                The american comic industry is done anon. I think it's time to call the time of death.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This is the new book, not the old one. Released a few days ago.

                Of anything, that too many views given Faith is literally a diversity hire book that exists to sell the movie rights to a woke studio.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Oh
                Then it's probably bots or just faked numbers.
                That's a thing.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This is the new book, not the old one. Released a few days ago.

                Of anything, that too many views given Faith is literally a diversity hire book that exists to sell the movie rights to a woke studio.

                Do you guys actually think 5k views is a lot of views?
                There are fricking Cinemaphile posts being made right now that will be viewed more than that.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's probably still more than the actual amount of copies this shit has sold.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You only need 1000 sales (maybe less) for a niche book to be profitable so you're probably right about that.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Enough to show someone is paying enough attention or gives enough of a frick to notice it

                But not enough to raise suspicion or be obviously faked.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous
              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >refuses to address my points because it hurts his argument
                I accept your concession anon.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I've address all you points. They just need to copyright strike everything like manga publishers do then they'll actually buy/subscribe to stuff. That addresses everything.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                see

                >refuses to address my points because it hurts his argument
                I accept your concession anon.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nope. You want to end comics, have no solutions ergo copyright strike everything.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I already accepted your concession. If you want to do the last word song and dance for the next 2 hours fine but I am sure you can spend your time doing other things.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I've given no concession. Nuclear option it is, just copyright strike everything.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yup I accepted your concession we are good. Already next two hours cleared here we go

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Zoomers pay for streaming services and pay for games services.

                THE PROBLEM IS THE FRICKING PRODUCT ITSELF

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Zoomers buy manga, shockingly enough. You’d have to somehow make comics mass marketable, appealing, and just somehow buyable to this huge audience. But I don’t know how.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I don't think you can, because most people don't want to put in the legwork to figure out which comic runs are worth reading, especially when they can just start from the first chapter on any given manga.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Manga tend to be very different than Western comics in how they're handled. One big example is that they have a clear start and a clear finish, and one writer for the entire thing (on rare instances where there's maybe 2 writers, it's still the same creative minds from start to finish).

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Naw its the porn. Most of that is smut. Zoomers don't buy manga either. The people in bookstores buying stuff are funny enough GenX and Early Millennials.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why would they when they can read currently running manga for free, even on official apps like Manga Plus?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >How you do get Zoomers to buy comics?
                Fanservice
                And not just the sexy kind.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Fanservice ain't making them buy anything. Even when many franchises pander heavily with "representation", zoomers still don't consoom it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                "Representation" isn't fanservice. Giving fans what they actually want is.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And millennials just pirate comic book scans instead of buying them. It is a sucker's game.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Zoomies don't have the buying power they require
        Older zoomers are in their late 20s, dude. They have the money. Why do you lot continue to assume Gen Z are children?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Why do you lot continue to assume Gen Z are children?
          Read my post again, Gen X and Millennials are the generation with the purchasing power that they're pursuing because they actually buy shit and have more money in general, they're also the biggest suckers for nostalgia, which is something they're banking on right now.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >market to zoomers

      high republic failed

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >high republic failed
        That's still made by millennials for millennials.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          you sure about that?

          could have sword millennials were reading legacy star wars comics but that's just me i guess

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            *sworn*

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's a shame if this show isn't doing well. I really like it, though I can't say I'm a fan of the constant "Magneto is right" wiener jerking and how much they shit on Xavier, even having Magneto tell Xavier to shut up as if he himself wasn't known for long-winded, preachy speeches (many of which he made in this same show).

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There IS a bit of a bias toward Magneto in 97. What's funny is how many viewers are quick to exonerate his actions, including the worldwide EMP.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        A bit? There is A LOT of bias toward Magneto in this show.

        [...]
        Don’t forget him cucking Gambit

        People haven't realised how much they got to change Magneto for his to happen.
        Gambit's the suave chad of the team. He's very popular with women within the x-men universe and in the fandom. And men like him for being highly charismatic, funny, and for how loyal he is to Rogue.
        For Magneto to be remotely a believable option against him, they had to redesign him to look less old, more masculine, and with a bit of a sexually seductive personality. Beau DeMayo is a homosexual and probably has a sugar daddy fetish.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What are talking about? Gambit gets cucked by Magneto in the comics and Gambit also routinely cheated on Rogue. Only in the Fox movies Magneto was portrayed as a very old and fragile man, he always was jacked and looked like he was in his mid 40s in everything else he appears in. Nobody gave a shit about Gambit for decades until X-Men ‘97.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Nobody gave a shit about Gambit for decades until X-Men ‘97.

            Gambit had multiple ongoings including including ones by Nicieza and Asmus. He's probably one of the most popular X-Men aside from Wolverine/Storm/Cyclops.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >He's probably one of the most popular X-Men aside from Wolverine/Storm/Cyclops.
              Delusional. B-list X-men like Nightcrawler and Iceman are more popular than Gambit

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          So never read the comics, huh? Magneto and Rogue has hooked up more times then Rogue and Gambit.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Magneto and Rogue has
            And it was universally hated every single time.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              So hated they keep doing it!

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's because it was done before and they needed someone half decent for magneto to pork.

                Not because it's popular. I can't think of any writers who want that pairing. It just seems like an editorial decision every time.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Just be a contrarian, it's doing amazing for the conversation.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >when Rogue wakes up the first thing she thinks about it's Gambit
          >This is even before she knows Magneto is still alive
          methinks you don't know what cuck even mean

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Magneto fricked Rogue already and Gambit hasn’t. Magneto already won and cucked Gambit. Magneto didn’t even care that Rogue picked Gambit before the attack on Genosha, he just wanted Rogue as Queen for the optics more than anything.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You don't know what "cucked" means, right? Gambit's had women before, so he cucked Rogue too?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There IS a bit of a bias toward Magneto in 97. What's funny is how many viewers are quick to exonerate his actions, including the worldwide EMP.

      Don’t forget him cucking Gambit

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There IS a bit of a bias toward Magneto in 97. What's funny is how many viewers are quick to exonerate his actions, including the worldwide EMP.

      They have the entire fricking team, even BEAST of all people, calling Xavier naive for not wanting to murder humanity like Magneto does. Frick this show.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      People spouting "Magneto was right" is annoying, but it makes sense. He was wronged, so people feel that makes his lashing out justified. I don't agree with it myself, but it's a mentality a lot of people nowadays have. That if you're a victim, you're entitled to revenge.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >That if you're a victim, you're entitled to revenge
        You 100% are entitled to revenge if you were wronged. It doesn’t mean it’s always the best choice but you are within your rights to frick up whoever wronged you. It’s just a matter of whether that revenge is proportional to the original wrong doing.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >even having Magneto tell Xavier to shut up
      Peak Millenial writing. It's their own "yasss queen slaaay" moment.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Pretty sure nobody is watching because the original series is beloved and nobody wants to see shitty woke trash tarnish its memory.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's not really woke, it's just very meh. It feels like nobody who's not Magneto, Cyclops and Jean even has much of a reason to be in the show. Like Morph basically only seems to exist to give cameos.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It is woke. Very much. Woke means "socially conscious", and the show is insisting on the message that it's ok to cause a genocide on your "oppressors".
        The message has been well received by the intended target: morons on twitter and reddit think Magneto was right on murdering perhaps millions of humans and the show isn't even addressing this with the seriousness it should have. They have Rogue and Sunspot joining Magneto because she thinks it's justified due to Gambit's death (I'm sure Gambit would be delighted that she's doing this) and Roberto's the epitome of the jerk millenial who cries on social media because their parents misgendered them.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It is woke. That's why the three arcs in the series is Jeans., Storms, and Rogue (and even the Mojo throw away episdoe is a jubilee episode). Gambit got cucked, Magneto lied should be the tag for the story. Any take on magneto that's not 'He's the bad guy' is some of the worst xmen possible and this series showed that.

        >Magneto is right to prevent genocide
        >Bastion literally the result of time traveling to prevent the genocide of humans also did nothing wrong
        >Humans did nothing wrong, hating and fearing your literal replacements is reasonable
        >Morality doesn't exist

        Series was dull, the cut asides to Storm especially but Rogue as well after their trauma just wasn't very interesting. Storm and Jean as 'totally bestie sisters forever' is not interesting, charles fricking off and then fricking back (for some reason as if he didn't realize that as a big part of the mutant/humanist coalition leaving it would weaken that and endanger people. Oh no not my Xmen, I was about to get that prime Sharussy too.

        Don't know why they kept morph around and salted all their prequel stuff with it? He's in there for like 30 seconds total,

        You can be woke, dull or so so animation, you cannot be 2 out of three.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sauce: my ass

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Did the views drop after Gambit died?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I hope so. Killing him off was the dumbest thing imaginable. They should have killed some random moron you know will never get the movie spotlight like Forge or Cable. They finally brought Gambit back and made him cool and killed him off

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's obvious he'll come back as a heel, probably as Death or some Mr Sinister concoction

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Wasnt Gambit a horseman of apocalypse for awhile?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yup, Death like the other anon mentioned. I think they sorta just forgot about it after a while?

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    EVERY ANON WHO LIKES A THING I DON'T IS A SHILL!

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Oh puhlease, Morph was always a little homosexual riding Wolverine's dick. Non-binary is just the mutant version of "No homo, bro".

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Zoomers don't care about it because it came out before they were even born and millennials are too tired and overworked to watch it

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >T-TRUST ME IT FLOPPED
    Post numbers.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nice try OP but it's too late, the show is a resounding success and you're going to be forced to hear about it for the next 4 years.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Nielsen

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    For those wondering this is copied and pasted from a "fandompulse.com," an AI-generated clickbait site.

    Commit seppuku OP

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Thanks for pointing it out. OP's text did have that wordy but substance-less quality you see in a lot of AI generated content farms. Frick these engagement bait slop factories.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >fandompulse.com

      Wait, isn't that Jon Del Arroz's site?

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Spreading fake news is gay. OP is gay.

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Rogue fricking Magneto was hilarious. I like how upset it made people.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Rogue's been a pretty unlikeable b***h for pretty much this entire show so far. Gambit can do better... or, well... could have, but well...

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Rogue's been a pretty unlikeable b***h
        It's the Carol in her. Probably wouldn't have been an issue that this ACTUALLY been written in 1997, but...

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Is the Carol in her also why she has no ass now?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Captain Marvel/MCU Carol yes.

            DAT ASS comes from her 90's 00's Ms.Marvel years.
            Cause...anon. We all know Ms.Marvel Carol Danvers has litterally the thickest most perfect donk of all women in marvel period and that is unironic canon.

            Like....Anna Sophia Robb in her prime tier ass.
            Or that one Australian olympic chick.

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's an animated show, off the bat that's going to mean limited viewership. On top of that it's an animated show that's a sequel to a 30 year old series.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      OP is pulling shit out of his ass, his source is literally non-existent.

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >ITT chuds circlejerking over OP pulling unsourced shit out of his ass that fits with whatever stupid shit they're mad about this week

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >faithful adaptation
    lel

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Okay, what's the BEST way to experience X MEN then?

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't think Rogue and Magneto makes a lot of sense(I don't see the appeal for Magneto, Rogue I can definitely see going for anyone she can touch without killing them), but it'd be nice for love triangles to exist without the cuck buzzword being thrown around every time. Especially when you're watching something that at it's core is a soap opera.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The word "cuck" is mostly used unironically by people who hate Gambit. She lied about her not being able to touch others, but that's it. She wasn't cheating on him as they weren't official and for what Gambit said ("you didn't want to make it official"), it was discussed and she said no.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Magneto legit has to fricking use magic magnetic shit to be able to touch Rogue. EVERYONE else she touched in the show from '92-'97, they go into a coma. Watch the fricking material before you try to debate shit.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Except for Cannonball in that one episode

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            In Mojo's fake tv world where sometimes their powers worked and sometimes they didn't?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              No, in the final season when she visited him in Kentucky where he was still a teenager

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Was he blastin'? He's invulnerable when he's blastin'.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Oh, yeah I forgot that happened, cause the art style of the final season was horrible.

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The show is selling X-Men merch and won over the good graces of bitter X-gays. At the end of the day that was what mattered.

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Very funny the outrage farmers found a new tactic once everyone liked the show.

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >OMG Gambit is being cucked!
    >Gambit went to the Bayou to make out with his ex.
    >Gambit hit on Jubilee instantly in the mall, saving her from sentinels

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Early on, a lot of the marketing became tainted with potential fans when the character of Morph was declared to be Non-Binary. This change made little sense, given the character showed no signs of this, and the terminology did not exist back in the 90’s when the show was meant to take place. This arbitrary change may have managed to eventually be accepted by former fans of the show, but fan accounts would then continue to throw gasoline onto the fire by accusing those upset of being ‘bigots’. As well as saying how the X-Men aren’t for them and they shouldn’t bother to watch.
    Citation needed.

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >all this anons falling for AI slop article just because it confirm their bias

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder. Even in front of Gambit, Rogue was ready to suck Spider-Man's wiener.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      In front of Gambit, Cyclops, Storm and a live studio audience?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Me too, she's not special.

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No one watches shit as soon as it comes out anymore. Virtually everybody I know “waits” for an ungodly amount of time to watch anything they claim they’re interested in, and wonder why every other thing they watch gets cancelled. Most people don’t understand that concept of shows depending on viewership.
    I literally know a coworker who’s refusing to watch the last couple of episodes because he wants to watch the 3-parter all the way through. And my sister claims she likes it, but has only watched the first episode and then moved on because she has the mentality of a goldfish.

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm sure they will learn their lesson, not to wokify shit that's deliberately aimed at old people
    and not completely miss the mark and think "I guess nobody wants 90s nostalgia anymore"

  36. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yo check it out, the OP from this thread got btfo'd and started another.

    [...]

  37. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    good. this thing was pozzed from the beginning with the gay who got fired over nudes on his Instagram and the usual "adjusting for a newer generation" bullshit. glad to see it die

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Your bait's stale.

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