Will someone please explain why so many people hate Krakoa Era? Is it a political issue? I notice many conservatives hate the current line of writers… can anyone elaborate?
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I'm sure this is in good faith. But here we go.
Krakoa changed fundamental elements of the X-Men in a way that the narrative demanded be resolved in a timely manner. It was a story that asked a lot of the reader, to see the X-Men not as the heroes fighting for a world that hates and fears them they were designed to be, but another faction of power hungry mutants who's goals were more in line with their traditional enemies, the Brotherhood of Evil or the Hellfire Club.
This had a purpose. Nearly twenty years of extinction plotlines on Marvel editorial's order had left the fandom emotionally spent. This was a bold new direction intended, clearly, to revitalize the core concept of the X-Men by giving them what some fans think they want: superman stepping on the worst thing in the world, normal people.
The problem is House of X and Powers of X made a promise and it was broken by the company. It'd be like if Age of Apocalypse kept going indefinitely because of the sales boost: a wrong headed, undisciplined idea that'd lead to frustration and the point of the story being lost. Krakoa only worked as a temporary situation because the whole power of Krakoa is in how disturbing it is seeing our heroes get what they think they want, a chance to be on the other end of the jackboot.
It's just like how Doc Ock keeps getting shoved back into Peter's body because Slott desperately wants a movie deal. You have a good idea and you keep squeezing that stone until it bleeds to death.
The writer who started this entire plot basically got forced out because most of the other writers saw Krakoa as an unambiguously good thing, and wanted to keep their ethnostate power fantasy going indefinitely.
Now it's (possibly) finally coming to an end and they're not being defeated by their own hubris, their own actions and their own villainy, some other bad guys framed them with some false flag attacks, so everyone but Beast is just going to get away with everything that happened.
Hot damn. Thank y’all so much. I have always been a Krakoa fan boy, but I can see different perspectives now. It can debatably be a cash grab. Hot damn. Thanks guys!
Thank you so much dude^ this makes so much sense. This era has encouraged me to dive into multiple X-arcs (Mike Carey, Morrison, Claremont, etc). I really needed to hear from different perspectives. I now kinda understand why X-Fans despise Krakoa …
Hot damn. There was a moment in 2020 which the Marvel comics coulda defined a chapter of excellence. but it was dwindled away by hanging plot threads and corporate incentives to prolonged arcs.
If it weren’t for that, the Krakoa era coulda been the most exciting moment for mutant history. Now I feel it is died by the way-side.
And yes it’s bullshit. Beast is the only good guy who can see past Krakoa’s man-made goals
whatever
People hate to see a traditionally stepped on group(in universe!) winning.
It’s just so funny when they decided to act together like a nation everyone is all “noooooooooo!!!”
I could, but no.
To keep it short Krakoa sucks at least for me because I felt like it's been in a constant status quo limbo. The books kept teasing interesting stuff that could happen and how it would fall apart. But we never got that. We kept just getting nostalgia pandering books which yeah were cool at first but when it was basically all we were getting it killed my interest.
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b***h I got into X-Men when Krakoa was starting because my friends told me it was a good jumping on point for new readers.
yep
I like it because it's not the fricking status quo like every other Marvel comic. 4chwn is just contrarian as always.
Is Laura technically a virgin again?
Yep, every time muties resurrect their hymen gets restored too.
If I was writing X men my fist act would be to retcon the hooker thing.
Cuz it was bad
People want the X-Men to be heroes, not a militant ethnistate cult.
They essentially proved Nimrod and Orchis right. No matter how loyal you are and how much you help them, if you're a non-mutant, in the end mutants will betray you.
mutants are hated everywhere robots want to exterminate all organic life if your siding with the killer robots no wonder why they always kill humanity
Overall, it's a case of throwing out the baby with the bathwater. A big element of the X-men has been that despite being outright superhumans, they're fundamentally a team of underdogs who are trying to do what they feel is right in a world that has yet to fully accept their existence or their methods. The Krakoa Era, by design, tossed that conceit straight into the dumpster and puts the X-men on the "winning side". It was meant to give the line a needed shot in the arm, a chance to make the X-men look like they're fighting to change the world and their fate on more even terms with other superhero teams that are also going cosmic, and to slough off decades of X-men malding how nothing goes their way and how much good they could do if things were different. Well, in the Krakoan era they can do whatever the frick they want, since while they may not be entirely free from persecution, they're an independent cosmic power that narratively can do whatever the frick they want.
...Except it didn't stick. Too many writers are attached in the idea of the X-men being the underdogs in a world that doesn't appreciate their talents, and despite being given a massive sandbox to do whatever they wanted they couldn't fricking pivot. So the readers are basically reading an insanely two-faced narrative of the X-men being essentially cosmic warlords using underhanded means to colonize other worlds and manipulate economies for the prosperity of the mutant race, holding expensive fancy balls to show off their prosperity, while STILL crying about how nobody likes or accepts mutants in this day and age and they're unfairly being persecuted. Modern X-men outright monologue full paragraphs where they both sneer at humanity's inevitable extinction to mutant superiority while also crying about how powerless they still are in the face of [RACISM].
Essentially, people were sold Miracleman, and received the same slop they have for the past two decades with a sprinkle of parsnip on it.
the story has nothing to do w the xmen
none of them act in character, their motivations are the exact opposite of their values and drives, and theyve all been perverted beyond recognition in more ways than i can count.
starting w moiras moronic powers that destroy her character immediately, then the free love orgy/we're a super advanced deathless collective nonsense alongside some of the worst villains in history as if xmen is a sci fi postmorality thing when its not and has never been etc etc
the story was moronic from jump. hickman wanted to write a sci fi story but bc no one gaf unless hes writing a big comic he bastardized xmen to do it
he even cribbed the beginning scene w moira and xavier directly from a movie about the powers he gave moira. its all bullshit from a massive hack who didnt give a shit about the xmen or what they actually were
but who cares. these people are idiots. becoming a fan of this bullshit was one of the big mistakes of my life
Marvel's worst mutant era
Kamala Khan mutant
There's no sense of danger anymore because mutants are immortal now
Gays everywhere it's implied that Cyclops and Wolverine are gay too besides Bob and Xavier is drawn constantly doing gay poses it's like they want to destroy the whole legacy of Marvel comics Cheesecake is only allowed in small doses, 20 pages of dialog without any action. Those 10 years with Disney could be removed from the story.
>Kamala Khan mutant
Actually she is a Inhuman mutant.
despite how much Marvel tries to reinvent the X-men, the most popular rendition of X-men is the 90s cartoon.