I wished actions movies especially like this would cut 90% their dialogue. The only meaningful conversation in this movie was with the daughter and mother in the beginning; everything else could have been cut down to a few words.
>isn’t she attractive goy
Your retared coomer shilling doesn’t work on the lawda dem rangz with morf and it doesn’t work with this shitskin either. Your movie sucks, you’re a homosexual, cry about it anonymously on the internet more.
>isn’t she attractive goy
Your retared coomer shilling doesn’t work on the lawda dem rangz with morf and it doesn’t work with this shitskin either. Your movie sucks, you’re a homosexual, cry about it anonymously on the internet more.
Look back at female sci fi / action protags from pre woke era, they are often attractive without being a bombshell. Plus this is the camanche tribe and there is no diversity at all so she would have to be a "shitskin"
>zahler
it's clear the producers didn't want a dark, acid fueled gorefest, they wanted an empowerment film with young adult / coming of age leanings like every other IP is being forced into
Doesn't have the same bioavailability once you ingest it lol that's how you get kidney stones though. On a separate note the scene where she kills the french dudes after they botch the predator trap is pretty well done. So far this movie is decently entertaining/10 but not as entertaining as this thread.
>the scene where she kills the french dudes after they botch the predator trap is pretty well done.
how is it well done when it's completely unbelievable?
why is she suddenly a navy seal? she couldn't even win a fist fight against a boy from her tribe but five seconds later she can destroy a dozen adult hunters with bladed weapons, in full daylight.
I mean if at least she had been fighting for 10 years against other tribes or something.
there's literally no reason she would survive, let alone win.
She just dialed it back to not hurt that kids feelings. Shes strong and empathetic because she's a woman and they are everything everywhere all at once.
A perfectly servicable movie about a literally boneheaded zoomer Predator, crashing his dad's ship on an uncharted planet, and some sneaky c**t who tries to advance herself up the tribal social ladder by stealthily eliminating her competition one by one and sacrificing them to the Predator.
Yeah, it's a decent movie. 7/10.
Most of the Predator flicks and all of the AvP flicks suck ass. This one is easily better than Predators and The Predator. I put it slightly ahead of Predator 2.
Most of the Predator flicks and all of the AvP flicks suck ass. This one is easily better than Predators and The Predator. I put it slightly ahead of Predator 2.
Predator 2 and Predators are definetely better than this. The one thing this gets right is cinematography.
I fricking love Predators. It has infinite rewatch value,Prey is shit in comparison.
Then every other Predator movie was also pozzed as frick since the main characters also didn't die in the first 10 seconds.
2 years ago
Anonymous
But they were men. If you really think a woman is as capable as a man in combat and survival situations then you're pozzed too
2 years ago
Anonymous
>But they were men
What difference does it make against a Predator? Humans in general are no match for it in the traditional sense.
20-30lbs of muscle won't make a difference.
It's all about outsmarting it, not being stronger.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>a woman >outsmarting anything, let alone THE apex predator
2 years ago
Anonymous
>THE apex predator >the same one that has previously been beaten with stone age traps and the power of autism (or something, only ever watched the first one)
2 years ago
Anonymous
In every predator movie the predator is defeated just before he makes the kill.
Oh you mean right after the whole sequence where she went toe to toe with it? You know, the bit in between where she shot it and where she tied it up and pulled it over into the bog?
>cat attacks it's human owner, that's equivalent of going toe to toe with it y'know
She would've been dead had it not been for using his own weapons against him + getting stuck in the mud.
And in the end it doesn't even matter much because it's implied the predators came down to earth and fricked the village up.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>cat attacks human owner >human owner is aggressively trying to kill it with weapons the whole time >apparently the cat holding its own in this fight doesn't count as going toe to toe with the human
You might actually be moronic. Get tested
2 years ago
Anonymous
owner is aggressively trying to kill it with weapons the whole time
Yeah after fighting off a whole army of other cats with various wounds to tell the tale, not to mention exhaustion.
And in the end, the owner of said cat got rammed with his own car that he didn't realize was put in reverse on a steep hill.
Is "dart follows laser pointer" really that hard to figure out? Your ancestors were also stone age peasants. Cut them some slack.
The entire premise has always been that humans best these "superior" aliens.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Is "dart follows laser pointer" really that hard to figure out?
If you haven't even figured out the wheel? Yes.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I can figure out how to make a projectile weapon but I can't figure out how such a projectile weapon from something that is clearly "a magic species" wouldn't be able to fly on command
It was a moronic fight. The laser perfectly lining up with the predator's head was BS. The predator not knowing his gun wouldn't shoot straight without his helmet AFTER HE SEES IT NOT WORKING AGAINST THE DOG makes him look like an idiot, but only in that one scene. They literally nerfed the predator's competence so the woman could win. I can't get over how ridiculous this was. The predator would know how its own dart gun works frick's sake.
A bad ass little indian girl that kicks the entire universe's ass single-handedly. She's stronger, smarter, quicker, and more innovative than any other creature in existence. You know, typical Hollywood crap. Also, some really bad CGI.
jewrats really use CGI for fricking everything nowadays. God forbid you get some animal trainer to have a bear do some shit, nah, better just have a bunch of indians sit at their computers instead.
At a guess, I would say the movie treats the Indians as a flawed culture, depicts the white Europeans as a nuanced group of good and bad people, and gives a realistic treatment to the desire of a woman to become a stone-age warrior.
At a guess, I would say the movie treats the Indians as a flawed culture,
To an extent. >depicts the white Europeans as a nuanced group of good and bad people,
Well, most French are villains, but there is one or two good apples. >and gives a realistic treatment to the desire of a woman to become a stone-age warrior
Well, she's a frickup that needs to be carried by her entire tribe and in order to become le stronk and independent woman, most of her tribe has to die enabling her.
It extracts the water from the soil and forms it into a projectile. They establish earlier in the movie that one of the main reasons why preds come to Earth is because of it's rich water supply that works in tandem with their tech.
Your kidding me...damn. so what predator tech is available in this movie?
Wristblades?
Combi stick?
Plasma caster?
Disc?
Shield?
Do we see anymore than 1 predator?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Actually I am kidding you, yes. If you're not going to bother seeing the movie and don't mind it spoiled, it shouldn't really matter.
Not that I'm saying you should see it, but why even bother asking.
this pred doesn't have a plasma caster.
he has a handheld gun that levitates arrows and the arrows follow the laser pointers in his mask.
a nice idea actually but they could have done that scene better.
So basically a levitating gun huh? Could throw rocks too then? Honestly doesnt sound like predator tech. It's the disc weapon downgraded from the shuriken to a stick thrower? I didn't hate the predator whip in avp2 and figured it worked well for a new weapon.
Predator's dart gun fires homing darts that track the laser from its helmet. The girl works this out after her brother knocks off the Predator's helmet and it tries to shoot her dog with a dart, only for the dart to fly off into a tree that the helmet is painting with its laser. For inexplicable reasons, the Predator doesn't know his gun works this way, even after it sees the same thing the girl sees. So in the final fight the Predator is killed by its own dart gun because his helmet is knocked off and the laser is pointing at its head. The predator somehow still doesn't comprehend how its own weapon works and just sits still while the dart flies towards his forehead.
>For inexplicable reasons, the Predator doesn't know his gun works this way, even after it sees the same thing the girl sees. So in the final fight the Predator is killed by its own dart gun because his helmet is knocked off and the laser is pointing at its head. The predator somehow still doesn't comprehend how its own weapon works and just sits still while the dart flies towards his forehead.
kek. that shit made me laugh so hard. maybe this was one of those autism predatora the last movie was talking about.
It panicked during the bear fight cloaking when it starts losing
It panicked during the brother fight trying to shoot him with the darts when he's kicking it's ass
And it panics using its shield when fighting the girl cutting off its own arm
The french trappers fight the predator and wound it a little. She and her brother escape, her older brother hits the predator in the head while hes on horseback and it knocks his skull helmet off, then shoots pred with several arrows and stabs it, weakening him. Even her dog bites pred in the foot. She sees the skull helmet is where the 3 lasers come from. The predator recovers his helmet so she walks up behind it later knowing its only hunting men and shoots it with a pistol to steal the helmet. She fell into the mud pit earlier and set up the helmet to aim roughly in the center of the pit and tries to lure the predator in. He falls for it and for some reason forgets how his own tech works and looks at her and fires the darts right as he is in the mud pit and nowhere else earlier during the fight
>The predator recovers his helmet so she walks up behind it later knowing its only hunting men and shoots it with a pistol to steal the helmet. >only hunting men
wait is that actually one of the plot points of the movie? Did the people who made this movie completely misunderstand why the woman form the first movie wasn't killed? Did they even watch a predator movie before making this one?
Not specifically because she's a female. Just because she's small or unarmed when the predator sees her the first few times. It's played up in the dialogue for feminist reasons. Guys laugh at her because the predator didn't see her as worthy of killing and she acts all sad.
The woman in this film wasn't perfect either. She fricked up several times and couldn't even kill the predator in hand to hand combat. Something other people have done before.
She took on an encampment of burly White men all on her own and kicked all of their asses. Sell your wares elsewhere, Chaim.
2 years ago
Anonymous
They weren't trained in hand to hand. There's no historic records of such a thing during this time. But plenty of native americans developed knife fighting skills. Some of them are still used today by current navy seals.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>hard as nails adventurers/furriers/traders/you name it in a land on the other side of the world are not tough as frick
ok chaim
2 years ago
Anonymous
Technique is more important than being tough.
Are you seriously making the argument that stone age native Americans were the first and only to master combat using bladed weapons?
No? They were more accustomed to using that kind of weapon during this time period. There's guns in the movie if you didn't notice.
2 years ago
Anonymous
every single thing you type is so idiotic, I can't imagine how the frick you survived this far. you are oversheltered.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>There's guns in the movie if you didn't notice.
Ya don't say.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Are you seriously making the argument that stone age native Americans were the first and only to master combat using bladed weapons?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>They weren't trained in hand to hand.
le based modern day moron
if you wanted to survive as a hunter in a fricking undiscovered continent full of predators and savages and the other cutthroats like you, you HAD TO KNOW HOW TO FRICKING KNIFE FIGHT
there were no training courses. you learned or you got knifed.
they were not accountants. they were not nobles.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Present some evidence and I'll agree.
>le dur the predator was lur durr hurr durr
have a nice day
Not an argument.
Navy seals don’t knife fight anybody
All soldiers are taught in hand to hand combat including how to wield a knife.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>All soldiers are taught in hand to hand combat including how to wield a knife.
I am a Soldier, and have never been trained in knife wielding. You don't know a damn thing about what you're talking about, armchair-kun.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Then you're a meme soldier. Any soldier worth anything will be trained in self defense, and often that includes using a knife.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I have been trained in combatives, which is basically wrestling and incorporates no weaponry whatsoever. Modern combat does not assume hand-to-hand combat is going to happen. You know nothing about how modern engagement actually works, have never stepped onto an obstacle course, have never worn body armor with a seventy-pound rucksack and marched for tens of miles, and are a complete and total joke.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I am a Soldier, and have never been trained in knife wielding
gibs queen
2 years ago
Anonymous
No they aren’t. The 20 minutes of “training” from a SSGT for your grey belt in MCMAP isn’t knife fighting experience. Knife fighting is two morons stabbing each other until one stops moving. It’s not complicated. It’s more important to teach them relevant things, like fire team/squad tactics and weapons proficiency for a variety of platforms.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Navy seals don’t knife fight anybody
2 years ago
Anonymous
based moron
2 years ago
Anonymous
Present evidence.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You must present evidence, as you are the one making the claim. Present evidence that trappers/survivalists would have no experience in hand-to-hand combat.
2 years ago
Anonymous
There's no records I can find that indicate they went through a self defense program.
Meanwhile, there are tons of indian knife fighting techniques like those of the Apache if you google it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Indians did not have a "self-defense program". You are a moron.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>There's no records I can find that indicate they went through a self defense program. >self defense program
are you medically moronic
yes, there are no traces of a long tradition of knife and sword fighting in Europe, no manuals, no centuries of everyone duelling even peasants and farmers.
no, Europeans had AR15s since 1200 and never knew how to fight with bladed weapons, ever.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Who cares about "long tradition" do you know any knife or sword fighting techniques? Are you taught any of that in the present day?
The 1700s didn't have knights in shining armor anymore. Gun powder was a thing.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Ah yes the famous native american stone knife fighters
2 years ago
Anonymous
You’re probably a shill posting dumb takes as bait to keep this thread alive.
This being said, I take your bait.
Those whiteys that had the balls to venture into an unknown, unmapped, wild continent as hunters, trappers, explorers, etc weren’t posh boys from the upper crust of European society. They were former soldiers, sailors, mercenaries, explorers, hunters and the obvious renegades that wanted to start anew far away from the old world. They knew how to kill people.
>She fricked up several times
She should have died several times and is only spared by immense levels of plot armor. The fall from the tree. The Predator not running her down when its 10ft from her at multiple points in the film. Besides that there's also parts where she really shouldn't have any right to succeed, such as the fight between her and the other indian, or the multiple frenchmen. Guys don't fight like that. Girls don't hit that hard. It was weird to see the men act so sluggishly and slowly while she fought them. It was like the guys were all drunk.
a damn shame, the premise is good, it just needs a more stylish director to take it more seriously, remove the moronic "tense" music and the language, this movie needed to be blunt and raw
let's recap :
-as always, white males are the real evil even if the Comanche were known for being brutal and inhumane
-50 hwuite hunters WITH GUNS and bear traps can't put a single scratch on the predator but ONE native can almost kill him and only gets defeated because the pred goes invisible and stabs him in the back...if the natives were so powerful, why the frick did they lose against whites, even after they got guns from whites? what a head scratcher.
-literal little girl who can't even hunt fights a dozen adult white male hunters AT THE SAME TIME with KNIVES and KILLS THEM ALL without a scratch because suddenly she's a fricking ninja. because those guys never fought with a knife right? since they were accountants in a modern urban setting.
-little girl can't figure out how a flintlock gun works but she can figure out how laser guided self propelled ALIEN dart gun works. well I mean, she's "smarter than a beaver" so that makes it ok.
-the predator forgets how to move his head at the end of the movie. why? no real reason. he is so SURPRISED to see his own technology, he just forgets to move a little out of the way.
I liked the photography. and the pred gets some really satisfying kills especially against the french hunters.
but the movie is woke GRRRL PAWAH white genocide garbage from top to bottom.
can't they make ONE fricking movie that is not about how evil and weak white males are? it's the same shit in every movie, no matter the genre and setting.
This is all true, but lets remember: this predator is a larping "survivalist" fudd that thinks he's cool and hardcore because he uses bolts instead pf plasma. He probably got a predator bonus at his predator wagie job and ran straight to the predator store to buy his cool new toys and complete his edgy skeletor look. He then went on a hunt with all his new shit without reading any of the manuals (we all know this guy) and promptly gets fricked by mother nature. Many such cases. Every predator in every movie is by default a shitty predator. I bet the guys who dropped him off didn't even like him.
dude you made all that shit up in your fricking mind.
that's your moronic head canon, it's not part of the movie.
the only thing we can deduce from what's in the actual movie is that it's the first time he's on Earth, and he doesn't know jack shit about local fauna.
he's perfectly able to kill a million white hunters with guns, isn't he?
but somehow 2 teenage spear chuckers are too much for him.
>-as always, white males are the real evil
The fact that the white males and the injuns weren't best pals doesn't mean they're evil. It was being true to history. >-50 hwuite hunters WITH GUNS and bear traps can't put a single scratch on the predator but ONE native can almost kill him
Yeah, I'd be pretty tired after fighting 50 "huwuite" (funny how you make fun of whites here) people too. Probably injured as well. > a dozen adult white male hunters AT THE SAME TIME with KNIVES
That's a good point, but then again, injuns are known for their knife fighting, having literally invented such martial art styles, so provided she has good enough technique, it's something she could do. Armed people are always dangerous, even if they're physically weaker. >-little girl can't figure out how a flintlock gun works but she can figure out how laser guided self propelled ALIEN dart gun works
The flintlock is more complex than looking at a flying dart and figuring out it follows a fricking laser pointer. A household cat can do that, anon.
Your last point is a strawman. >this tired nearly dead predator who is stuck in the mud didn't move his head away fast enough and.. that's unrealistic
My Black folk and feminist fatigue is over 9000. even a whiff of it coming off your product guarantees I won't watch it. I don't expect you to care about this because I don't even pay for media I DO watch. Hollywood and their ESG scores can tongue my anus. Repeatedly.
for me, it's the second worst, "The Predator" can't be topped.
whoever made Prey had the skills to make a good movie, they just chose not to and inject it with woke grrl shit.
they made the bear actually feel dangerous and then the Pred kills it hand to hand. that was good.
my brother how do you have access to the internet but not to search engines?
he has a weird face under the mask by the way.
and I just remembered: the little girl TEARS one of his fangs off his face and stabs him with it.
I don't think anyone else ever did shit like this, not even Arnold.
what the frick were they thinking
They broke their own lore by having the predator splashing around in the river with the bear and not losing its cloak. Water and rain is supposed to frick with the predator cloak, while smoke and ash never did anything to the clock in the previous movies.
Im tired of these movies where the predators lose. They are supposed to be these badasses and yet they are complete jobbers. How the frick are these predators even supposed to be l33t when they die to humans. I want a predator movie where the predator wins, he kills all of his prey and survives and we get to see him in all of his badass glory.
the presentation is well done, but the ideas are absolute garbage. an ideological failure.
competent filmmakers enslaved to a totalitarian ideology.
and before anyone says "movies were always political" or some similar shit,
please tell me what was the political message of the original Predator?
there wasn't one.
They failed to do something special with the audience expectations in this film. The original Predator came out at a time when buff men with machine guns were considered invincible. Seeing a bunch of such guys get slaughtered one by one was something different. Nowadays the plucky little girl that the boys pick on is expected to be invincible. In this movie, the plucky little girl that the boys pick on is... invincible. How unexpected.
no no no
she says something like
"because you think I can't"
I HOPED she would say that it makes her feel alive or realized or because she loved going hunting with her father or something.
nope
because of fricking SPITE
all they needed to do was say to her "I don't think you should stay home and suck wieners all day" and she would have done that just to spite the tribe
all of her expressions are modern, they didn't even try.
at least she doesn't roll her eyes and mutter "fricking cis males" when her tribesmen tell her to do things. I guess that's something? kek
for the other thing: I don't know what will happen with an entire generation of women who have been convinced they can beat multiple big men in hand to hand combat.
what happens when they are in real danger and think they can actually fight back with zero training and zero muscle mass?
>all they needed to do was say to her "I don't think you should stay home and suck wieners all day" and she would have done that just to spite the tribe
Because women are weak and in the timeframe this is supposed to take place a women would be savagely beaten i to submission for daring to do men's work.
It's a fictional story. Did you also get pissed off with Eowyn?
Native Americans aren't know for their tolerance of women doing anything other then making and tending to children
2 years ago
Anonymous
Consquistador rape babies bro. Raping and being raped is a hard-coded genetic preference for them
2 years ago
Anonymous
Thats cool, but what does that have to do with anything?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Its why Hispanics have women in a submissive role to this day and resist feminism so well. Literally read the reply chain you fricking zoomer
2 years ago
Anonymous
I did which is why I was confused >trannie: its fantasy >me: if its fantasy why isn't she riding in an suv shooting a gun >you(assuming you're not the trannie): Conquistadors rape babies >me: wtf? >you: dude read the thread.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I was agreeing with you my guy, contextualizing your observation that hyspanique women prefer submissive roles and that the portrayal of a stronk independent one, especially in the colonial era, is utterly ridiculous
Indians are known for beating their women if they dared even mention not sucking dick and giving birth 24/7. You are contradicting yourself. The movie premise is hysterically inaccurate hence the impossibility of enjoying it.
was Arnold realistic or implausibile as a special forces badass tho?
if Danny De Vito played the same role, what would you think? be honest.
when Adrien Brody played the badass soldier in the Predators people criticized him because he wasn't action lead material.
just because it's a fictional story doesn't mean logic stops existing.
Because women are weak and in the timeframe this is supposed to take place a women would be savagely beaten i to submission for daring to do men's work.
Wouldn't it be better if it was set during the Spanish inquisition in South America and a gang of rag-tag Conquistadors had to fight the predator with the help of a native?
They literally just had to make the girl into a guy and about 80% of the film is instantly fixed by virtue of the action being more believable and the writers being unable to inject modern politics into the plot.
he looks like he would 1v1 the predator barehanded and then rape it to establish dominance.
but no, we get a 12 years old girl with negative muscle mass instead.
very convincing.
>literal headhunters >literal blood sacrifices >literal mountains of skulls
But no, why would we pick mesoamericans as the foil for Predators when we could pick some random heyya hooa and a stick figure woman "fighter" at that. Frick hollywood.
The seen where she beat up the other indian was pretty cringy. I thought that would be the end of it, but holy frick that second time where she killed all the french guys with a knife was painful to watch. I almost didn't have it in me to watch the final fight with the predator. The woman was fricking invincible the whole time.
This. Super hot non-mary sue cutie gets beaten up 20 times by everyone and everything then get her shits together long enough to trick an already heavily wounded pred into killing itself.
Extremely enjoyable and rewatchable movie. Also, get the HDR version if you are equipped, it's superb to look at
>Super hot non-mary sue cutie gets beaten up 20 times by everyone and everything
Like when she easily beat the shit out of the indian brave twice her size? Or an entire camp of french trappers thrice her size? Or how her brother only killed the mountain lion because she weakened it for him? Kay.
The girl knocks out a lone frenchman, cuts off his leg and condemns him to be killed by the predator for being a dick to her earlier. It makes you absolutely hate the girl, especially because before she knocks him out, she has a chance to shoot him and decides not to. It made me think she was going to either leave him alone or enlist his help. But know, she just had to be a bigger dick than the guy ever was.
There's nothing wrong with what she did. Why would she be standing up for the alien invaders who came into her land with weapons and tried her up as bait?
>humans who are enemies team up against an otherworldly threat
ah yes this never happened in any form of fiction, ever
you leftoids aren't even human, are you? you'd rather side with an actual xenomorph that stop hating cishetero huwhite males for a second
Prolly 'cause the pred has just killed off everyone on both sides and they're the only 2 left. She could have been the better person and earned a lot a endearment from the audience. It could have been a nice moment where two humans separated by their cultures learn to work together. But then again, the french guy also could have been written to not be cartoonishly evil, with those fricking snickers and "heh heh heh" laughs he does. That was way too overdone.
She used the guy as bait to lure out the Predator to a trap. There was no way she could've defeated him otherwise. Moreover, it would've been highly unrealistic for her to work with that guy. Different races can't work together.
The dude was visible scared and rattled. I'd wouldn't be the biggest stretch in the film for him to accept a proposal to work with her, language barrier and all. In fact that would have been kind of cool.
yep
they kill a group of colonizers, then they rescue the african slaves
and then the Black and indian look at each other for a moment
then they raise their fists in a black power stance and embrace in tears
they don't speak the same language, but they know what it's like to be oppressed
Stronk native woman killing predator instead of spreading her legs the instant he showed up. Laughably unrealistic but plays into this contemporary feminist hubris that has no historical reality
The entire point of predator movies is that it's fighting the peak of human hunters, fighting some anemic half-blood Hispanic goblina that looks like she'd pass out from a light jog is pretty stupid
This. Imagine they make a predator movie 300 years from now and the protagonist that defeats the predator is some autistic Cinemaphile neet or redditor who lives in his parents basement eating tendies. That would be the equivalent of this travesty
2 years ago
Anonymous
Defeating a predator is more about outsmarting it, since you can hardly out-gun or out-muscle it.
In that respect, I would imagine even a Cinemaphilener is feasible to defeat one, let alone a woman which is way higher in the food chain.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You are trying too hard homosexual-kun.
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's just too easy to make you seethe. Point still stands though. It's about cunning.
The original predator wasn't outsmarted, it's pride as a hunter killed it. Making predators inept so that a starving Hispanic goblina can kill it is spitting in the face of the entire franchise
It was. He got lured into a trap, on top of being prideful. > Making predators inept
What was so inept about it? It killed most of the people in the movie and stopped in it's tracks when it felt into the equivalent of quick sand. It could happen to anyone.
Then it was simply killed with it's own weapon.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>le dur the predator was lur durr hurr durr
have a nice day
2 years ago
Anonymous
>seethe
No anon, I'm actually pissing my pants and crying over here. Your're like a level 9000 master trell 🙂
2 years ago
Anonymous
You're the one seething because you got genuinely upset by a movie with a woman it in in [current year]. I'm barely putting any effort into these replies.
2 years ago
Anonymous
most people in this thread didn't watch the movie because it had a woman on the cover, that's how normal people react when they know what the predator is about and how a stupid feather with a bow wouldn't survive 3 seconds
2 years ago
Anonymous
>most people in this thread didn't watch the movie
I know. That's what makes it more fun.
I have been trained in combatives, which is basically wrestling and incorporates no weaponry whatsoever. Modern combat does not assume hand-to-hand combat is going to happen. You know nothing about how modern engagement actually works, have never stepped onto an obstacle course, have never worn body armor with a seventy-pound rucksack and marched for tens of miles, and are a complete and total joke.
Like I said, you're a meme. I know of policemen who have trained with knives.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Policemen are not Soldiers. You made a simple-minded and easily disprovable claim that "all Soldiers are trained to fight with knives." Perhaps that is true in whatever silly little country you live in, but it is not true as a universal. I proved you wrong and your entire argument can therefore be dismissed.
2 years ago
Anonymous
While that statement was bait, I do find it a bit ironic that you would boast how
a) Policemen get more training with cold weaponry than soldiers
b) Your country doesn't train it's soldiers in knife fighting
You homosexuals walk right into this shit.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You said you know police who have been trained in knives; this means all policemen are trained to fight with knives? You know absolutely nothing about how to construct an argument, much like you know nothing about actual military training. You just make unsubstantiated claims to support your love of a bad movie. Pathetic.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You don't even know how to wield a knife lmao. Some soldier. Did they at least teach you how to bake cookies?
2 years ago
Anonymous
You are laughable, man. You know nothing about modern engagement, which stands to reason that you know nothing about pre-modern engagement, which means all of your arguments in support of this shit film are easily dismissed. You're pathetic, get a hobby that actually has you go outside.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>get a hobby that actually has you go outside
Pot calling the kettle black. I don't take advice from someone who doesn't even know any cool knife moves.
My opinion on zogbots is even lower now.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Thank you for proving me right. I accept your concession.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I accept your concession friend.
2 years ago
Anonymous
"Men are stronger than women" >UM, ACKSHULLY, I GOT BEAT UP BY A GIRL WHEN I WAS 14! I proved you wrong and your entire argument can therefore be dismissed!!
You autismos sure do love being right.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I GOT BEAT UP BY A GIRL WHEN I WAS 14
GIWTWM
2 years ago
Anonymous
So I'm right, I'm glad we agree.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I was trying to show you how one exception doesn't invalidate the rule but based on the rest of your posts in this thread you are either trolling or clinically moronic so yeah enjoy your 'win' soldier.
2 years ago
Anonymous
So you admit that I win the argument, thank you.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Black person, I don't watch ANY movies or television. I just argue about them here
2 years ago
Anonymous
I didn't watch the movie either, and I never will because it's obviously trash. homosexuals will seethe that you can tell a movie like this is trash just from the premise
2 years ago
Anonymous
it's a good movie though
2 years ago
Anonymous
predator hasn't been good in 30 years
2 years ago
Anonymous
predators was good
2 years ago
Anonymous
not really >the le super predator
2 years ago
Anonymous
Prey is a good movie
2 years ago
Anonymous
Prey is a good movie
the casting/acting made it feel like amateurish fan film shit yet the predator action was so surprisingly competent that dare I say it's the best one since Predator 2
2 years ago
Anonymous
I liked the female lead. Not the best actress in the world but she's charismatic and athletic (just like arnold, come to think of it)
2 years ago
Anonymous
she could barely run and all the acrobatic shit was done by stunt doubles, she was pudgy and slow, did we watch the same movie?
2 years ago
Anonymous
homosexual-kun, this is my first reply
You are trying too hard homosexual-kun.
I'm just mocking you 🙂
2 years ago
Anonymous
You're still visibly upset.
Indians did not have a "self-defense program". You are a moron.
Yes they did. They had their equivalent of martial arts and trained in various forms of combat.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Yes they did. They had their equivalent of martial arts and trained in various forms of combat.
No, they did not.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Female leads aren't the problem. Mary Sues are.
No, the time frame is all that matters. If this came out in like 82 no one would've batted an eye. Don't get me wrong, it's pretty funny to see a girl that proficient, but it's doubly funny how gays around these parts make excuses for other female leads when clearly most are bullshit.
2 years ago
Anonymous
There wasn't a media culture of making women ridiculously over competent for at least ten years before 1982, to be fair.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Modern "native" trying to validate his savage ancestors >You presenting it like natives had "self-defense programs" in the modern context
That video is a joke and so are you.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Translation: I was proven wrong so I have to ad-hominem because I have nothing left that resembles an argument.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Nothing in that video substantiates a claim that Indians had a "self-defense program". Maybe watch your own sources, loser.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>people definitely didn't develop fighting techniques throughout history, they just swung wildly and hoped something would make contact
2 years ago
Anonymous
So you admit that the French would have also had self-defense capability, nice. I'm glad you learned something today.
2 years ago
Anonymous
They did. Just not with knives in particular. Which was the argument.
2 years ago
Anonymous
So the trapper survivalist outdoorsmen, who use knives all the time, didn't know how to use knives? How interesting, please provide evidence for your claim.
2 years ago
Anonymous
The burden of proof is on you. There were knife fighting techniques developed by indians as they used them offensively.
I can't find any evidence of the "outdoorsmen" having similar techniques during this time.
2 years ago
Anonymous
obvious troll is obvious
2 years ago
Anonymous
No, you're the one making the claim. The burden of proof is on you. I'm not surprised you don't actually know how discussion works, after all you like this movie so your intellect is obviously in question. Unlike you, I don't claim to be an expert in such matters, so I did a little light googling and I've already found a source that talks about French knife-fighting practices in the 17th century. (The 17th century is from 1600 to 1700, by the way; I know that calling it "17" and it not being about the 1700s might confuse a tiny brain like yourself.)
2 years ago
Anonymous
Kind of baffled that they had metal smithing tbqh. They could've showed their bros from central and south America how it's done
2 years ago
Anonymous
>visibly upset
I punched a hole in the wall, I hope you're happy!
2 years ago
Anonymous
I wouldn't be surprised if you did. You're literally crying (as in, physical tears) over the final girl trope in a hollywood movie.
If you were a girl I'd ask you on a date it's that cute.
2 years ago
Anonymous
There are good points ITT for why the movie is stupid both because of and besides the girl. Lets not become unduly dismissive.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I don't actually care about the movie I just find it fun how upset people get by female lead movies
2 years ago
Anonymous
Female leads aren't the problem. Mary Sues are.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Female protagonists are not a problem. Plenty of movies adored around /tv have female protagonists that are strong and competent without being petulant attention seeking Mary Sues.
“Muh oppressed womyn” protagonists that whine and b***h about how they’re being kept down and are written as insufferable know-it-alls are a problem.
Not to mention that Prey walks over Native Americans by inserting contemporary woke ideology into their culture and historical reality. If a woman Comanche ever dare to behave like that she’d be raped and killed or raped and kicked out of the tribe (hence death) in a minute.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Female protagonists are not a problem
They are if they're in new movies. >Plenty of movies adored around /tv have female protagonists that are strong and competent without being petulant attention seeking Mary Sues.
That's a front because otherwise a person's opinion would come off as too biased.
If any of those movies came out today, any single one, they'd be called shit.
2 years ago
Anonymous
The original predator wasn't outsmarted, it's pride as a hunter killed it. Making predators inept so that a starving Hispanic goblina can kill it is spitting in the face of the entire franchise
So the gun she took from the Frenchgays is the same one the Predator gave Glover in Predator 2 (I checked). What is the implication here? The Predators came back and killed the tribe?
bold of you to assume they thought it out.
they just put it there, "remember this from the better movies in the franchise?"
like when Tabee quotes verbatim "if it bleeds, we can kill it"
it's the lowest form of nostalgia bait
It's a more primitive Predator, I think the unofficial name for it is "Feral Predator". Also looks like the skull for the initial Predator design for the first movie so could be that.
A decent action flick. Better than I expected. The only thing missing from it was memorable dialogue.
Having her get her breasts out wouldn't have hurt either
I wished actions movies especially like this would cut 90% their dialogue. The only meaningful conversation in this movie was with the daughter and mother in the beginning; everything else could have been cut down to a few words.
>what am I in for?
Irreversible damage to the bladder and urinary tract
I think it’s fricking up my prostate, too. The movie, that is, not drugs.
woke, diverse female-led, straight-to-streaming predator sequel. it’s as bad as you expect it to be.
hot female-lead =/= woke
>isn’t she attractive goy
Your retared coomer shilling doesn’t work on the lawda dem rangz with morf and it doesn’t work with this shitskin either. Your movie sucks, you’re a homosexual, cry about it anonymously on the internet more.
cry about it
what the frick are you talking about schizo
cry about it anonymously on the internet more.
cry about it
anonymously on the internet more.
yes, keep doing it
right on, brother
Hello ? Dillation department ?
Uh have a think about who's the one crying here
Coomers just can't help themselves
I’m genuinely curious what road you had to go down in your development to turn out like this.
>t. seething iToddler shill
Your Hulu movie sucks wiener homosexual, crying about people not liking it won’t change that.
Look back at female sci fi / action protags from pre woke era, they are often attractive without being a bombshell. Plus this is the camanche tribe and there is no diversity at all so she would have to be a "shitskin"
5/10
Yes. She is fine looking. Makeup seems to make her strange looking. Maybe whitout makeup she would look like shit.
she a cute
not really
>not really
mmm
It was alright. Zahler would've made kino though.
>zahler
it's clear the producers didn't want a dark, acid fueled gorefest, they wanted an empowerment film with young adult / coming of age leanings like every other IP is being forced into
anything new bad
>Just ripped a fat line of ketamine
>what am I in for?
pissing blood have fun
You guys know this doesn't happen if you don't swallow the drip right?
Definitely noticing the woke strong female vibes
Who hurt you anon?
>not swallowing the drip
lmao give me your k then bro don’t waste that moron powder
Doesn't have the same bioavailability once you ingest it lol that's how you get kidney stones though. On a separate note the scene where she kills the french dudes after they botch the predator trap is pretty well done. So far this movie is decently entertaining/10 but not as entertaining as this thread.
>the scene where she kills the french dudes after they botch the predator trap is pretty well done.
how is it well done when it's completely unbelievable?
why is she suddenly a navy seal? she couldn't even win a fist fight against a boy from her tribe but five seconds later she can destroy a dozen adult hunters with bladed weapons, in full daylight.
I mean if at least she had been fighting for 10 years against other tribes or something.
there's literally no reason she would survive, let alone win.
She just dialed it back to not hurt that kids feelings. Shes strong and empathetic because she's a woman and they are everything everywhere all at once.
Not saying it's believable or realistic just well choreographed.
>On a separate note the scene where she kills the french dudes after they botch the predator trap is pretty well done
Wut.
Guys acting like their leg muscles are loaded with tranquilizers is good choreography?
Did we watch the same scene? I know it's a dumb one but it was shot pretty well, very fluid with nice camera angles and spacing
The guys were letting her win. That's all I saw.
A decent flick, worth the watch, but you will forget about it in a week.
You should kill your self.
A perfectly servicable movie about a literally boneheaded zoomer Predator, crashing his dad's ship on an uncharted planet, and some sneaky c**t who tries to advance herself up the tribal social ladder by stealthily eliminating her competition one by one and sacrificing them to the Predator.
Yeah, it's a decent movie. 7/10.
Not a bad movie, just not a good predator movie
It's a much better Predator movie than 5 other movies with Predators in them.
No, it’s not, and your gay shilling won’t change that. Just like it won’t stop your inevitable suicide.
Most of the Predator flicks and all of the AvP flicks suck ass. This one is easily better than Predators and The Predator. I put it slightly ahead of Predator 2.
Predator 2 and Predators are definetely better than this. The one thing this gets right is cinematography.
I fricking love Predators. It has infinite rewatch value,Prey is shit in comparison.
It's pretty badass
did you watch before or after you dilated
I don't smoke.
Embarrassing shit just like your life you fricking degenerate junkie piece of trash
As a redditor I enjoyed it
>female indians are somehow able to go toe to toe with the fricking predator
It's shit, and anyone shilling it should be shot
t. hasn't seen the movie
no one will watch it, it's woke bullshit
i don't care lmao, it's not even in theaters
you're just wrong in your assessment and clearly petrified of women
Clearly you should dilate
and no one will
Or at least they won't pay for it. I know I didn't. Still feel mildly pissed off at how it wasted my time, though.
No, she's not able. That's the fun part.
She fricking did you dumb homosexual. Did you watch a different movie or something?
She didn't. In the end he was killed with his own equipment. It's not like she could overpower him, even though she tried.
The fact that she wasn't killed within the first 10 seconds shows that this movie is pozzed as frick
Then every other Predator movie was also pozzed as frick since the main characters also didn't die in the first 10 seconds.
But they were men. If you really think a woman is as capable as a man in combat and survival situations then you're pozzed too
>But they were men
What difference does it make against a Predator? Humans in general are no match for it in the traditional sense.
20-30lbs of muscle won't make a difference.
It's all about outsmarting it, not being stronger.
>a woman
>outsmarting anything, let alone THE apex predator
>THE apex predator
>the same one that has previously been beaten with stone age traps and the power of autism (or something, only ever watched the first one)
In every predator movie the predator is defeated just before he makes the kill.
Oh you mean right after the whole sequence where she went toe to toe with it? You know, the bit in between where she shot it and where she tied it up and pulled it over into the bog?
>cat attacks it's human owner, that's equivalent of going toe to toe with it y'know
She would've been dead had it not been for using his own weapons against him + getting stuck in the mud.
And in the end it doesn't even matter much because it's implied the predators came down to earth and fricked the village up.
>cat attacks human owner
>human owner is aggressively trying to kill it with weapons the whole time
>apparently the cat holding its own in this fight doesn't count as going toe to toe with the human
You might actually be moronic. Get tested
owner is aggressively trying to kill it with weapons the whole time
Yeah after fighting off a whole army of other cats with various wounds to tell the tale, not to mention exhaustion.
And in the end, the owner of said cat got rammed with his own car that he didn't realize was put in reverse on a steep hill.
>he was killed with his own equipment
That the stone age peasant somehow understood and used against him. It was non-sensical.
Is "dart follows laser pointer" really that hard to figure out? Your ancestors were also stone age peasants. Cut them some slack.
The entire premise has always been that humans best these "superior" aliens.
>Is "dart follows laser pointer" really that hard to figure out?
If you haven't even figured out the wheel? Yes.
>I can figure out how to make a projectile weapon but I can't figure out how such a projectile weapon from something that is clearly "a magic species" wouldn't be able to fly on command
It was a moronic fight. The laser perfectly lining up with the predator's head was BS. The predator not knowing his gun wouldn't shoot straight without his helmet AFTER HE SEES IT NOT WORKING AGAINST THE DOG makes him look like an idiot, but only in that one scene. They literally nerfed the predator's competence so the woman could win. I can't get over how ridiculous this was. The predator would know how its own dart gun works frick's sake.
Learn your predator lore. Its not his gun, its tech that was left with them
Honestly some decent hunt kino. Wish she showed breasts at some point though.
Where can I watch this trash online? I don't have anything to do for a couple of hours
A bad ass little indian girl that kicks the entire universe's ass single-handedly. She's stronger, smarter, quicker, and more innovative than any other creature in existence. You know, typical Hollywood crap. Also, some really bad CGI.
jewrats really use CGI for fricking everything nowadays. God forbid you get some animal trainer to have a bear do some shit, nah, better just have a bunch of indians sit at their computers instead.
familia bros.. I'm getting worried..
When I saw the bear in the first teaser I literally laughed, it was so clearly fake
At a guess, I would say the movie treats the Indians as a flawed culture, depicts the white Europeans as a nuanced group of good and bad people, and gives a realistic treatment to the desire of a woman to become a stone-age warrior.
At a guess, I would say the movie treats the Indians as a flawed culture,
To an extent.
>depicts the white Europeans as a nuanced group of good and bad people,
Well, most French are villains, but there is one or two good apples.
>and gives a realistic treatment to the desire of a woman to become a stone-age warrior
Well, she's a frickup that needs to be carried by her entire tribe and in order to become le stronk and independent woman, most of her tribe has to die enabling her.
>Hulu original
Will not even touch it with a stick.
No way the Predator should've brushed off that bear slashing him multiple times and taking a giant bite out of him.
Why the frick did the pred, kill the coyote and take a trophy, it's like killing a jack Russell hardly an honourable kill.
He is a bit slow.
*tilts head* NO THIS CANT HAPPEN TO ME IM IN CHARGE HERE ACK-
*Seinfeld bass plays*
Is this it? This is the actual ending? The predators one true weakness is reflections?
This honestly looks so shit. Can someone explain this scene??
Yondu from Guardians of the Galaxy killed him with his dart that follows his whistles. Yes, really. He made a cameo.
So what is this dart gun and how does it differ from the plasma caster? Is the plasma caster even a thing at this time?
It extracts the water from the soil and forms it into a projectile. They establish earlier in the movie that one of the main reasons why preds come to Earth is because of it's rich water supply that works in tandem with their tech.
Your kidding me...damn. so what predator tech is available in this movie?
Wristblades?
Combi stick?
Plasma caster?
Disc?
Shield?
Do we see anymore than 1 predator?
Actually I am kidding you, yes. If you're not going to bother seeing the movie and don't mind it spoiled, it shouldn't really matter.
Not that I'm saying you should see it, but why even bother asking.
this pred doesn't have a plasma caster.
he has a handheld gun that levitates arrows and the arrows follow the laser pointers in his mask.
a nice idea actually but they could have done that scene better.
So basically a levitating gun huh? Could throw rocks too then? Honestly doesnt sound like predator tech. It's the disc weapon downgraded from the shuriken to a stick thrower? I didn't hate the predator whip in avp2 and figured it worked well for a new weapon.
Predator's dart gun fires homing darts that track the laser from its helmet. The girl works this out after her brother knocks off the Predator's helmet and it tries to shoot her dog with a dart, only for the dart to fly off into a tree that the helmet is painting with its laser. For inexplicable reasons, the Predator doesn't know his gun works this way, even after it sees the same thing the girl sees. So in the final fight the Predator is killed by its own dart gun because his helmet is knocked off and the laser is pointing at its head. The predator somehow still doesn't comprehend how its own weapon works and just sits still while the dart flies towards his forehead.
lame
i guess theres probably some mentally moronic predators? O_O
Jokes aside, she did shoot it in the head before stealing his mask so it makes sense it's IQ dropped to 0 in the following 1v1 scene
>For inexplicable reasons, the Predator doesn't know his gun works this way, even after it sees the same thing the girl sees. So in the final fight the Predator is killed by its own dart gun because his helmet is knocked off and the laser is pointing at its head. The predator somehow still doesn't comprehend how its own weapon works and just sits still while the dart flies towards his forehead.
kek. that shit made me laugh so hard. maybe this was one of those autism predatora the last movie was talking about.
They do explain it but it's a show not tell thing
This predator panics when it starts losing
It panicked during the bear fight cloaking when it starts losing
It panicked during the brother fight trying to shoot him with the darts when he's kicking it's ass
And it panics using its shield when fighting the girl cutting off its own arm
ah yes, because one thing I think of when I think of a predator is "vulnerability"
This isn't a full adult or something it makes a lot of mistakes
Some may not like it but it makes the fights more interesting
Because it's in the end credits on the rock wall is when they send their best
>a dozen French trappers? nothing personel human shits
>Pocahontas & Friends?!?!? OH GOSH GOLLY *drops space dildo*
The trappers hurt it pretty bad that it has to nuke them
And forced to use most it's weapons it's why it's so weak at the end
The french trappers fight the predator and wound it a little. She and her brother escape, her older brother hits the predator in the head while hes on horseback and it knocks his skull helmet off, then shoots pred with several arrows and stabs it, weakening him. Even her dog bites pred in the foot. She sees the skull helmet is where the 3 lasers come from. The predator recovers his helmet so she walks up behind it later knowing its only hunting men and shoots it with a pistol to steal the helmet. She fell into the mud pit earlier and set up the helmet to aim roughly in the center of the pit and tries to lure the predator in. He falls for it and for some reason forgets how his own tech works and looks at her and fires the darts right as he is in the mud pit and nowhere else earlier during the fight
>The predator recovers his helmet so she walks up behind it later knowing its only hunting men and shoots it with a pistol to steal the helmet.
>only hunting men
wait is that actually one of the plot points of the movie? Did the people who made this movie completely misunderstand why the woman form the first movie wasn't killed? Did they even watch a predator movie before making this one?
no the predator only hunts things he perceives as threats. He sees the girl as a non-threat. Still chases her for some reason.
Not specifically because she's a female. Just because she's small or unarmed when the predator sees her the first few times. It's played up in the dialogue for feminist reasons. Guys laugh at her because the predator didn't see her as worthy of killing and she acts all sad.
Yeah, the writers totally fricked it up and don't understand at all
Thank you Disney for killing another franchise, I guess alien is next
Shane Black already killed it though. This was even better than his movie.
Alien Resurrection and Prometheus killed Alien
Wait until this poster finds out Alien also stars a woman.
Ripley was based and not perfect. She was very feminine and flawed. Men sacrificed themselves for her. Not Jonesy, though. He wasn't a simp.
The woman in this film wasn't perfect either. She fricked up several times and couldn't even kill the predator in hand to hand combat. Something other people have done before.
She took on an encampment of burly White men all on her own and kicked all of their asses. Sell your wares elsewhere, Chaim.
They weren't trained in hand to hand. There's no historic records of such a thing during this time. But plenty of native americans developed knife fighting skills. Some of them are still used today by current navy seals.
>hard as nails adventurers/furriers/traders/you name it in a land on the other side of the world are not tough as frick
ok chaim
Technique is more important than being tough.
No? They were more accustomed to using that kind of weapon during this time period. There's guns in the movie if you didn't notice.
every single thing you type is so idiotic, I can't imagine how the frick you survived this far. you are oversheltered.
>There's guns in the movie if you didn't notice.
Ya don't say.
Are you seriously making the argument that stone age native Americans were the first and only to master combat using bladed weapons?
>They weren't trained in hand to hand.
le based modern day moron
if you wanted to survive as a hunter in a fricking undiscovered continent full of predators and savages and the other cutthroats like you, you HAD TO KNOW HOW TO FRICKING KNIFE FIGHT
there were no training courses. you learned or you got knifed.
they were not accountants. they were not nobles.
Present some evidence and I'll agree.
Not an argument.
All soldiers are taught in hand to hand combat including how to wield a knife.
>All soldiers are taught in hand to hand combat including how to wield a knife.
I am a Soldier, and have never been trained in knife wielding. You don't know a damn thing about what you're talking about, armchair-kun.
Then you're a meme soldier. Any soldier worth anything will be trained in self defense, and often that includes using a knife.
I have been trained in combatives, which is basically wrestling and incorporates no weaponry whatsoever. Modern combat does not assume hand-to-hand combat is going to happen. You know nothing about how modern engagement actually works, have never stepped onto an obstacle course, have never worn body armor with a seventy-pound rucksack and marched for tens of miles, and are a complete and total joke.
>I am a Soldier, and have never been trained in knife wielding
gibs queen
No they aren’t. The 20 minutes of “training” from a SSGT for your grey belt in MCMAP isn’t knife fighting experience. Knife fighting is two morons stabbing each other until one stops moving. It’s not complicated. It’s more important to teach them relevant things, like fire team/squad tactics and weapons proficiency for a variety of platforms.
Navy seals don’t knife fight anybody
based moron
Present evidence.
You must present evidence, as you are the one making the claim. Present evidence that trappers/survivalists would have no experience in hand-to-hand combat.
There's no records I can find that indicate they went through a self defense program.
Meanwhile, there are tons of indian knife fighting techniques like those of the Apache if you google it.
Indians did not have a "self-defense program". You are a moron.
>There's no records I can find that indicate they went through a self defense program.
>self defense program
are you medically moronic
yes, there are no traces of a long tradition of knife and sword fighting in Europe, no manuals, no centuries of everyone duelling even peasants and farmers.
no, Europeans had AR15s since 1200 and never knew how to fight with bladed weapons, ever.
Who cares about "long tradition" do you know any knife or sword fighting techniques? Are you taught any of that in the present day?
The 1700s didn't have knights in shining armor anymore. Gun powder was a thing.
Ah yes the famous native american stone knife fighters
You’re probably a shill posting dumb takes as bait to keep this thread alive.
This being said, I take your bait.
Those whiteys that had the balls to venture into an unknown, unmapped, wild continent as hunters, trappers, explorers, etc weren’t posh boys from the upper crust of European society. They were former soldiers, sailors, mercenaries, explorers, hunters and the obvious renegades that wanted to start anew far away from the old world. They knew how to kill people.
>She fricked up several times
She should have died several times and is only spared by immense levels of plot armor. The fall from the tree. The Predator not running her down when its 10ft from her at multiple points in the film. Besides that there's also parts where she really shouldn't have any right to succeed, such as the fight between her and the other indian, or the multiple frenchmen. Guys don't fight like that. Girls don't hit that hard. It was weird to see the men act so sluggishly and slowly while she fought them. It was like the guys were all drunk.
this cant be real.....
are youu fricking kidding me?
>she starts screaming
every time
thought the same thing
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
IS THIS THE ENDING?
AHHHAHAHAHAHAHAH
JESUS
Could John redcorn fight the predator in this movie and win?
He'd emasculate the Predator by sleeping with the Predator's wife.
if they were all male actors and they didn't speak english it would be kino
watching right now, they act and talk too much like modern people, and whoever edited this movie should've been fired
>comanches in the 1700s
>use a baseball metaphor
a damn shame, the premise is good, it just needs a more stylish director to take it more seriously, remove the moronic "tense" music and the language, this movie needed to be blunt and raw
the music was one of the only good things
let's recap :
-as always, white males are the real evil even if the Comanche were known for being brutal and inhumane
-50 hwuite hunters WITH GUNS and bear traps can't put a single scratch on the predator but ONE native can almost kill him and only gets defeated because the pred goes invisible and stabs him in the back...if the natives were so powerful, why the frick did they lose against whites, even after they got guns from whites? what a head scratcher.
-literal little girl who can't even hunt fights a dozen adult white male hunters AT THE SAME TIME with KNIVES and KILLS THEM ALL without a scratch because suddenly she's a fricking ninja. because those guys never fought with a knife right? since they were accountants in a modern urban setting.
-little girl can't figure out how a flintlock gun works but she can figure out how laser guided self propelled ALIEN dart gun works. well I mean, she's "smarter than a beaver" so that makes it ok.
-the predator forgets how to move his head at the end of the movie. why? no real reason. he is so SURPRISED to see his own technology, he just forgets to move a little out of the way.
I liked the photography. and the pred gets some really satisfying kills especially against the french hunters.
but the movie is woke GRRRL PAWAH white genocide garbage from top to bottom.
can't they make ONE fricking movie that is not about how evil and weak white males are? it's the same shit in every movie, no matter the genre and setting.
This is all true, but lets remember: this predator is a larping "survivalist" fudd that thinks he's cool and hardcore because he uses bolts instead pf plasma. He probably got a predator bonus at his predator wagie job and ran straight to the predator store to buy his cool new toys and complete his edgy skeletor look. He then went on a hunt with all his new shit without reading any of the manuals (we all know this guy) and promptly gets fricked by mother nature. Many such cases. Every predator in every movie is by default a shitty predator. I bet the guys who dropped him off didn't even like him.
dude you made all that shit up in your fricking mind.
that's your moronic head canon, it's not part of the movie.
the only thing we can deduce from what's in the actual movie is that it's the first time he's on Earth, and he doesn't know jack shit about local fauna.
he's perfectly able to kill a million white hunters with guns, isn't he?
but somehow 2 teenage spear chuckers are too much for him.
>-as always, white males are the real evil
The fact that the white males and the injuns weren't best pals doesn't mean they're evil. It was being true to history.
>-50 hwuite hunters WITH GUNS and bear traps can't put a single scratch on the predator but ONE native can almost kill him
Yeah, I'd be pretty tired after fighting 50 "huwuite" (funny how you make fun of whites here) people too. Probably injured as well.
> a dozen adult white male hunters AT THE SAME TIME with KNIVES
That's a good point, but then again, injuns are known for their knife fighting, having literally invented such martial art styles, so provided she has good enough technique, it's something she could do. Armed people are always dangerous, even if they're physically weaker.
>-little girl can't figure out how a flintlock gun works but she can figure out how laser guided self propelled ALIEN dart gun works
The flintlock is more complex than looking at a flying dart and figuring out it follows a fricking laser pointer. A household cat can do that, anon.
Your last point is a strawman.
>this tired nearly dead predator who is stuck in the mud didn't move his head away fast enough and.. that's unrealistic
Reminder that the Predator is only supposed to live/hunt in hot humid climate as established in the first movie.
My Black folk and feminist fatigue is over 9000. even a whiff of it coming off your product guarantees I won't watch it. I don't expect you to care about this because I don't even pay for media I DO watch. Hollywood and their ESG scores can tongue my anus. Repeatedly.
Thanks for reading my blog post. God bless.
I didn't pay to watch this and I still regret it.
why can't the Predator get a decent sequel? why is this IP in the hands of c**ts and morons?
>why is this IP in the hands of c**ts and morons?
Because in current year dysgenic mutants are driving the bus.
uh
How does this predator compare to the others?
for me, it's the second worst, "The Predator" can't be topped.
whoever made Prey had the skills to make a good movie, they just chose not to and inject it with woke grrl shit.
they made the bear actually feel dangerous and then the Pred kills it hand to hand. that was good.
What about the design of the predator?
my brother how do you have access to the internet but not to search engines?
he has a weird face under the mask by the way.
and I just remembered: the little girl TEARS one of his fangs off his face and stabs him with it.
I don't think anyone else ever did shit like this, not even Arnold.
what the frick were they thinking
They broke their own lore by having the predator splashing around in the river with the bear and not losing its cloak. Water and rain is supposed to frick with the predator cloak, while smoke and ash never did anything to the clock in the previous movies.
It was 9th generation iCloak, whereas in the original Predator he had a 10th gen
it's an alright movie, you already know how it's gonna go storywise, the CGI animals are off-putting though
Im tired of these movies where the predators lose. They are supposed to be these badasses and yet they are complete jobbers. How the frick are these predators even supposed to be l33t when they die to humans. I want a predator movie where the predator wins, he kills all of his prey and survives and we get to see him in all of his badass glory.
the presentation is well done, but the ideas are absolute garbage. an ideological failure.
competent filmmakers enslaved to a totalitarian ideology.
and before anyone says "movies were always political" or some similar shit,
please tell me what was the political message of the original Predator?
there wasn't one.
They failed to do something special with the audience expectations in this film. The original Predator came out at a time when buff men with machine guns were considered invincible. Seeing a bunch of such guys get slaughtered one by one was something different. Nowadays the plucky little girl that the boys pick on is expected to be invincible. In this movie, the plucky little girl that the boys pick on is... invincible. How unexpected.
true
It's essentially a Slasher, but typically the female protag in Slashers are portrayed as weak and eventually overcoming, not headstrong/confident.
If they didn't attach the Predatory franchise onto it, I feel it MIGHT have different expectations.
>why do you want to hunt?
>because you don;'
>you can't go hunt
>why? do I need your permission?
Many more such quotes.
no no no
she says something like
"because you think I can't"
I HOPED she would say that it makes her feel alive or realized or because she loved going hunting with her father or something.
nope
because of fricking SPITE
all they needed to do was say to her "I don't think you should stay home and suck wieners all day" and she would have done that just to spite the tribe
lel
what's with the constant pouty faces the b***h does? I doubt the indians used to pout like that, it's current year valley girl attitude.
plus, she beat a full fledged indian warrior in hand to hand combat lmfao
all of her expressions are modern, they didn't even try.
at least she doesn't roll her eyes and mutter "fricking cis males" when her tribesmen tell her to do things. I guess that's something? kek
for the other thing: I don't know what will happen with an entire generation of women who have been convinced they can beat multiple big men in hand to hand combat.
what happens when they are in real danger and think they can actually fight back with zero training and zero muscle mass?
A nasty surprise that's what.
>she says something like
>"because you think I can't"
She says that to her mother, in private. She isn't talking to dudes.
>because of fricking SPITE
Women run on that emotion.
>all they needed to do was say to her "I don't think you should stay home and suck wieners all day" and she would have done that just to spite the tribe
Sad, but true and funny.
>I've got him
>No...
>He's got us!
>If it bleeds, we can kill it.
that line is fricking kino, you moron.
Not in this film, it doesn't have any weight.
A nap
she cute
well shot
music forgettable
action scenes boring
predator incompetent
4/10
Modern woke bullshit continuing to ruin potentially good franchises
Why does the concept of a female warrior make people so angry?
because its unrealistic
It's a movie though.
It's a fictional story. Did you also get pissed off with Eowyn?
>just turn off you brain bro
>It's a fictional story.
Then why wasn't she riding around in a Range Rover shooting an AR-15 while blaring WAP?
Native Americans aren't known for that, even stereotypically.
Native Americans aren't know for their tolerance of women doing anything other then making and tending to children
Consquistador rape babies bro. Raping and being raped is a hard-coded genetic preference for them
Thats cool, but what does that have to do with anything?
Its why Hispanics have women in a submissive role to this day and resist feminism so well. Literally read the reply chain you fricking zoomer
I did which is why I was confused
>trannie: its fantasy
>me: if its fantasy why isn't she riding in an suv shooting a gun
>you(assuming you're not the trannie): Conquistadors rape babies
>me: wtf?
>you: dude read the thread.
I was agreeing with you my guy, contextualizing your observation that hyspanique women prefer submissive roles and that the portrayal of a stronk independent one, especially in the colonial era, is utterly ridiculous
Indians are known for beating their women if they dared even mention not sucking dick and giving birth 24/7. You are contradicting yourself. The movie premise is hysterically inaccurate hence the impossibility of enjoying it.
was Arnold realistic or implausibile as a special forces badass tho?
if Danny De Vito played the same role, what would you think? be honest.
when Adrien Brody played the badass soldier in the Predators people criticized him because he wasn't action lead material.
just because it's a fictional story doesn't mean logic stops existing.
>was Arnold realistic or implausibile as a special forces badass tho?
He was implausible yes. There's no guys in spec ops who look like that.
>savage who has mastered space travel comes to earth to hunt
>realistic
but hes a man
Male, not man, just like a dog isnt a man even if it has as dick.
Yes? Humans hunt for fun too, even though we went to spare.
Because women are weak and in the timeframe this is supposed to take place a women would be savagely beaten i to submission for daring to do men's work.
closeted homosexuality
Because women are so weak it's unreal. You could grab their arm too hard and break it, like a 5 year old child.
She could beat up everyone ITT
That's the thing, she wouldn't.
Peak Gina, yes, but she was on Joe Rogan recently b***hing about how out of shape she's gotten.
Wouldn't it be better if it was set during the Spanish inquisition in South America and a gang of rag-tag Conquistadors had to fight the predator with the help of a native?
>current year
>Conquistadors portrayed as the ''good guys''
l
They literally just had to make the girl into a guy and about 80% of the film is instantly fixed by virtue of the action being more believable and the writers being unable to inject modern politics into the plot.
There's only 1 Indian I'd put my money on vs a predator.
He's not Indian for a start. But I agree Atzecs vs Predator would be a far better premise
Also Directed by Mel Gibson
he looks like he would 1v1 the predator barehanded and then rape it to establish dominance.
but no, we get a 12 years old girl with negative muscle mass instead.
very convincing.
>they couldn't just hire this guy and a bunch of other ripped native dudes to be the protagonists
I want off Mr. Goldbone's Wild Ride.
And its Joohhhhhn Redcorn
>literal headhunters
>literal blood sacrifices
>literal mountains of skulls
But no, why would we pick mesoamericans as the foil for Predators when we could pick some random heyya hooa and a stick figure woman "fighter" at that. Frick hollywood.
An apocalypto rip-off with predators would be kino
The seen where she beat up the other indian was pretty cringy. I thought that would be the end of it, but holy frick that second time where she killed all the french guys with a knife was painful to watch. I almost didn't have it in me to watch the final fight with the predator. The woman was fricking invincible the whole time.
Pretty decent, some cool kills and mildly surprised the side characters managed to damage the pred quite a lot of times.
Great movie, second best predator easy.
4kiddies chudcels on suicide watch.
This. Super hot non-mary sue cutie gets beaten up 20 times by everyone and everything then get her shits together long enough to trick an already heavily wounded pred into killing itself.
Extremely enjoyable and rewatchable movie. Also, get the HDR version if you are equipped, it's superb to look at
>Super hot
>Extremely enjoyable and rewatchable
ice is hot. fire is cold. gravity makes things go upwards.
>Super hot non-mary sue cutie gets beaten up 20 times by everyone and everything
Like when she easily beat the shit out of the indian brave twice her size? Or an entire camp of french trappers thrice her size? Or how her brother only killed the mountain lion because she weakened it for him? Kay.
ok hard pass. and after the clip how the predator dies like a noob....na sorry.
what a shit movie
Xir, you're not getting any (You)s
>I know how to survive
let me guess: the native girl and the predator team up to kill the evil white colonizers
am I right?
yes. and then they fight to the death.
The girl knocks out a lone frenchman, cuts off his leg and condemns him to be killed by the predator for being a dick to her earlier. It makes you absolutely hate the girl, especially because before she knocks him out, she has a chance to shoot him and decides not to. It made me think she was going to either leave him alone or enlist his help. But know, she just had to be a bigger dick than the guy ever was.
There's nothing wrong with what she did. Why would she be standing up for the alien invaders who came into her land with weapons and tried her up as bait?
>humans who are enemies team up against an otherworldly threat
ah yes this never happened in any form of fiction, ever
you leftoids aren't even human, are you? you'd rather side with an actual xenomorph that stop hating cishetero huwhite males for a second
>defeats his own argument in his post without realizing it
Top lel. I was right.
Prolly 'cause the pred has just killed off everyone on both sides and they're the only 2 left. She could have been the better person and earned a lot a endearment from the audience. It could have been a nice moment where two humans separated by their cultures learn to work together. But then again, the french guy also could have been written to not be cartoonishly evil, with those fricking snickers and "heh heh heh" laughs he does. That was way too overdone.
She used the guy as bait to lure out the Predator to a trap. There was no way she could've defeated him otherwise. Moreover, it would've been highly unrealistic for her to work with that guy. Different races can't work together.
The dude was visible scared and rattled. I'd wouldn't be the biggest stretch in the film for him to accept a proposal to work with her, language barrier and all. In fact that would have been kind of cool.
Mr H said it was really good. Wtf bros, did he drop the ball?
where is the goo space monster?
Do they portray the Comanche of all peoples are peaceful victims of whitey?
yep
they kill a group of colonizers, then they rescue the african slaves
and then the Black and indian look at each other for a moment
then they raise their fists in a black power stance and embrace in tears
they don't speak the same language, but they know what it's like to be oppressed
For real? That half sounds like a joke but I can honestly see that happen in current year
>no Tommy
Should have made the antagonist a wendigo instead of rehashing the predator.
>not always going for the k hole
ngmi
Believe me I tried but it's been about 4 or 5 years since my partying days and I still have a tolerance that no amount of horsey sauce can conquer
As soon as they said the date, 1719, i knew they will show the GUN 😀
But how will that predator getting it?
They show that part in the credits on the rock wall
Also why does everything keep saying it's ship crashed ?
It dropped him off when he was cloaked an then flies away
Woke garbage
what's woke about it?
uh the fact that its not asleep
Whats not woke about it?
Stronk native woman killing predator instead of spreading her legs the instant he showed up. Laughably unrealistic but plays into this contemporary feminist hubris that has no historical reality
>women have never killed people
The entire point of predator movies is that it's fighting the peak of human hunters, fighting some anemic half-blood Hispanic goblina that looks like she'd pass out from a light jog is pretty stupid
This. Imagine they make a predator movie 300 years from now and the protagonist that defeats the predator is some autistic Cinemaphile neet or redditor who lives in his parents basement eating tendies. That would be the equivalent of this travesty
Defeating a predator is more about outsmarting it, since you can hardly out-gun or out-muscle it.
In that respect, I would imagine even a Cinemaphilener is feasible to defeat one, let alone a woman which is way higher in the food chain.
You are trying too hard homosexual-kun.
It's just too easy to make you seethe. Point still stands though. It's about cunning.
It was. He got lured into a trap, on top of being prideful.
> Making predators inept
What was so inept about it? It killed most of the people in the movie and stopped in it's tracks when it felt into the equivalent of quick sand. It could happen to anyone.
Then it was simply killed with it's own weapon.
>le dur the predator was lur durr hurr durr
have a nice day
>seethe
No anon, I'm actually pissing my pants and crying over here. Your're like a level 9000 master trell 🙂
You're the one seething because you got genuinely upset by a movie with a woman it in in [current year]. I'm barely putting any effort into these replies.
most people in this thread didn't watch the movie because it had a woman on the cover, that's how normal people react when they know what the predator is about and how a stupid feather with a bow wouldn't survive 3 seconds
>most people in this thread didn't watch the movie
I know. That's what makes it more fun.
Like I said, you're a meme. I know of policemen who have trained with knives.
Policemen are not Soldiers. You made a simple-minded and easily disprovable claim that "all Soldiers are trained to fight with knives." Perhaps that is true in whatever silly little country you live in, but it is not true as a universal. I proved you wrong and your entire argument can therefore be dismissed.
While that statement was bait, I do find it a bit ironic that you would boast how
a) Policemen get more training with cold weaponry than soldiers
b) Your country doesn't train it's soldiers in knife fighting
You homosexuals walk right into this shit.
You said you know police who have been trained in knives; this means all policemen are trained to fight with knives? You know absolutely nothing about how to construct an argument, much like you know nothing about actual military training. You just make unsubstantiated claims to support your love of a bad movie. Pathetic.
You don't even know how to wield a knife lmao. Some soldier. Did they at least teach you how to bake cookies?
You are laughable, man. You know nothing about modern engagement, which stands to reason that you know nothing about pre-modern engagement, which means all of your arguments in support of this shit film are easily dismissed. You're pathetic, get a hobby that actually has you go outside.
>get a hobby that actually has you go outside
Pot calling the kettle black. I don't take advice from someone who doesn't even know any cool knife moves.
My opinion on zogbots is even lower now.
Thank you for proving me right. I accept your concession.
I accept your concession friend.
"Men are stronger than women"
>UM, ACKSHULLY, I GOT BEAT UP BY A GIRL WHEN I WAS 14! I proved you wrong and your entire argument can therefore be dismissed!!
You autismos sure do love being right.
>I GOT BEAT UP BY A GIRL WHEN I WAS 14
GIWTWM
So I'm right, I'm glad we agree.
I was trying to show you how one exception doesn't invalidate the rule but based on the rest of your posts in this thread you are either trolling or clinically moronic so yeah enjoy your 'win' soldier.
So you admit that I win the argument, thank you.
Black person, I don't watch ANY movies or television. I just argue about them here
I didn't watch the movie either, and I never will because it's obviously trash. homosexuals will seethe that you can tell a movie like this is trash just from the premise
it's a good movie though
predator hasn't been good in 30 years
predators was good
not really
>the le super predator
Prey is a good movie
the casting/acting made it feel like amateurish fan film shit yet the predator action was so surprisingly competent that dare I say it's the best one since Predator 2
I liked the female lead. Not the best actress in the world but she's charismatic and athletic (just like arnold, come to think of it)
she could barely run and all the acrobatic shit was done by stunt doubles, she was pudgy and slow, did we watch the same movie?
homosexual-kun, this is my first reply
I'm just mocking you 🙂
You're still visibly upset.
Yes they did. They had their equivalent of martial arts and trained in various forms of combat.
>Yes they did. They had their equivalent of martial arts and trained in various forms of combat.
No, they did not.
No, the time frame is all that matters. If this came out in like 82 no one would've batted an eye. Don't get me wrong, it's pretty funny to see a girl that proficient, but it's doubly funny how gays around these parts make excuses for other female leads when clearly most are bullshit.
There wasn't a media culture of making women ridiculously over competent for at least ten years before 1982, to be fair.
>Modern "native" trying to validate his savage ancestors
>You presenting it like natives had "self-defense programs" in the modern context
That video is a joke and so are you.
Translation: I was proven wrong so I have to ad-hominem because I have nothing left that resembles an argument.
Nothing in that video substantiates a claim that Indians had a "self-defense program". Maybe watch your own sources, loser.
>people definitely didn't develop fighting techniques throughout history, they just swung wildly and hoped something would make contact
So you admit that the French would have also had self-defense capability, nice. I'm glad you learned something today.
They did. Just not with knives in particular. Which was the argument.
So the trapper survivalist outdoorsmen, who use knives all the time, didn't know how to use knives? How interesting, please provide evidence for your claim.
The burden of proof is on you. There were knife fighting techniques developed by indians as they used them offensively.
I can't find any evidence of the "outdoorsmen" having similar techniques during this time.
obvious troll is obvious
No, you're the one making the claim. The burden of proof is on you. I'm not surprised you don't actually know how discussion works, after all you like this movie so your intellect is obviously in question. Unlike you, I don't claim to be an expert in such matters, so I did a little light googling and I've already found a source that talks about French knife-fighting practices in the 17th century. (The 17th century is from 1600 to 1700, by the way; I know that calling it "17" and it not being about the 1700s might confuse a tiny brain like yourself.)
Kind of baffled that they had metal smithing tbqh. They could've showed their bros from central and south America how it's done
>visibly upset
I punched a hole in the wall, I hope you're happy!
I wouldn't be surprised if you did. You're literally crying (as in, physical tears) over the final girl trope in a hollywood movie.
If you were a girl I'd ask you on a date it's that cute.
There are good points ITT for why the movie is stupid both because of and besides the girl. Lets not become unduly dismissive.
I don't actually care about the movie I just find it fun how upset people get by female lead movies
Female leads aren't the problem. Mary Sues are.
Female protagonists are not a problem. Plenty of movies adored around /tv have female protagonists that are strong and competent without being petulant attention seeking Mary Sues.
“Muh oppressed womyn” protagonists that whine and b***h about how they’re being kept down and are written as insufferable know-it-alls are a problem.
Not to mention that Prey walks over Native Americans by inserting contemporary woke ideology into their culture and historical reality. If a woman Comanche ever dare to behave like that she’d be raped and killed or raped and kicked out of the tribe (hence death) in a minute.
>Female protagonists are not a problem
They are if they're in new movies.
>Plenty of movies adored around /tv have female protagonists that are strong and competent without being petulant attention seeking Mary Sues.
That's a front because otherwise a person's opinion would come off as too biased.
If any of those movies came out today, any single one, they'd be called shit.
The original predator wasn't outsmarted, it's pride as a hunter killed it. Making predators inept so that a starving Hispanic goblina can kill it is spitting in the face of the entire franchise
So the gun she took from the Frenchgays is the same one the Predator gave Glover in Predator 2 (I checked). What is the implication here? The Predators came back and killed the tribe?
Yes
bold of you to assume they thought it out.
they just put it there, "remember this from the better movies in the franchise?"
like when Tabee quotes verbatim "if it bleeds, we can kill it"
it's the lowest form of nostalgia bait
>bold of you to assume they thought it out.
Fricking lol, touche.
this they didnt think it out and it only served as a
>REMEMBER THIS THING FROM OTHER THING?
Action schlock kino.
Predator > Predator 2 > AVP >Predators > Prey >>>>>>>AVP2>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the predator
It was alright
Movie should have been about her brother, he was cool and his fight scene was badass.
best post
Do the frenchs speak french or just english with a fake french accent?
French with a fake french accent. They sound horrible, but it's horrible french.
>French with a fake french accent.
That describes Quebec.
I saw another post that said their French is broken and clearly non-native. They didn't give a shit when they made this movie.
I may as well shit my /ss/ if they are going to shill this movie
https://twitter.com/Glassbuttboy/status/1553208352515264513
better fatalities than mortal kombat
the Pred should have more patching up scenes. None of the wounds seems to affect his mobility
People will watch this movie for THE PREDATOR, and on that front it delivers.
what's wrong with its face?
bad case of vegana mouth
I mean the helmet thing
It's a more primitive Predator, I think the unofficial name for it is "Feral Predator". Also looks like the skull for the initial Predator design for the first movie so could be that.
Its also some sort of prequel to Predator 2 or maybe just a nod
From Predator 2 for reference
Doesn't bode well for the protag if this particular flintlock found its way into an elder predator's possession between Prey and P2.
She tosses it to the old warchief with a bad knee so she might've set him up.