back in 77 Darth was the name of the character and Vader his family name, Lucas never imagined Vader was Luke's father and Leia was luke's sister
the original trilogy is one big retcon
"You can't win Darth"
back in 77 Darth was the name of the character and Vader his family name, Lucas never imagined Vader was Luke's father and Leia was luke's sister
the original trilogy is one big retcon
Oh no! They made it more interesting! How dare they?
>the plot is pretty stupid
>everyone in the galaxy happens to be related
it's so lazy.
IV > V > Mandalorian > I > VI > II > III > irrelevant garbage
All of the prequels are shit and always will be.
>I > VI > II
II = VI > I
but at least you know III is the worst prequel
mandalorian is unwatchable garbage stopped reading right there you should kys yourself
you > gays deserve the rope
I'd put Rouge One somewhere in the middle
I haven't seen mandolorian and I never will, but this the first post I've ever seen agree with my own ranking of the films, so I will say "based".
Correct ranks, but Mandalorian belongs in the trash too.
no this is stupid to think this was his actual name
you dont name your evil guy dark + death, that's silly even for george lucas.
it was a random title
darth vader is dark + father
Yeah, but the difference is that George actually came up with something in the sequel instead of being a pretentious ass hat trying to say "nothing in Star Wars matters".
>instead of being a pretentious ass hat trying to say "nothing in Star Wars matters"
Why are you being such a pussy? Just say his name, it's not taboo.
Jeffrey Jacob Abrams. What's so hard about that?
So Moff Tarkin is literally named Moff Tarkin
Emm Perror Palpatine is his name.
No his name is The
Pretty sure the name Palpatine was another retcon invented in the 90s. He was always The Emperor.
Emm Porrer Sheev Frankyorm Ajesty Thess Ennett Palpatine
sometimes they call him Grandma Tarkin for some reason
Dooku's first name is Count. It's not a title.
First name Grand
> Sergeant Frank Drebin, Detective Lieutenant, Police Squad
AHHHHH LUCAS CHANGED HIS ORIGINAL PLANS I'M GOING INSANE AHHHHHHHHHHH
You’re just now figuring this out? Or were you not alive 20 years ago?
Why does blue lightsabers make the BSSSZZOOOOOOM sound when activated, but the red lightsabers make the KKTTTZZCHHHUUUU
One sounds mystical one sounds evil.
Buy the companion book "Karr-Kovall - the lightsaber-smith of Blatuu" to find out.
Nerd canon answer: lightsabers are made with crystals with different frequencies.
Real answer: Blue = good, red = evil
>Have you ever heard the tragedy of Darth Sand The Wise?
what was the original idea behind their fight? did they blow all their cash on carrie's coke so they couldn't afford anyone under 70 to do a fight scene so the actors just waved sticks pathetically?
Perhaps I’m autistic to answer but Lucas’ original idea was that the handle was slow and difficult to move around with a gyroscope effect. The props even spun the blades to try and achieve this. It was to make it more otherworldly.
The prequels made the Jedi and exception to show their God mode power in the peak of their existence/hubris but this was taken too far later on. They’ve reverted to the original with the Mandalorian. Perhaps to a greater extreme with the dark saber.
This
That and the original lightsaber props were very fragile and would break if they clashed too hard.
Buying coke for Carrie is money well spent
Original was inspired by kendo and other weeaboo shit so it would be slow, methodical, one strike kill kinda thing, fitting for a fight between an old man and a dude in a cumbersome life support armor.
You can't win Darth homosexual.
I hate this scene. Them stones weigh a frickin ton yet Vader isn't even scratched. They impact like snowballs.
Dude he's blocking with his elbow, it's fine.
Same with when Obi Wan got burried under all those rocks and didn't have a single bone crushed to powder. It's like the fricks at Disney don't know what a rock weighs
>Well these rocks are about the size of a propane cylinder. Those weigh like 20-30lbs, right?
I didn't hate this scene as much as I expected but Mustafar still should've been the final battle before ANH. And they ripped off the big moment from fricking Rebels which somehow did it better.
It does it better because its short and sweet with complex layers. The new one in Kenobi is like ok we have to make this work with ANH even thought we cant and Vader has to lose which is pretty dumb considering hes the fricking chosen one and has 10 years of Dark Side practice and jedi killing behind him. The sensible thing to happen is for him to trash Kenobi and then trash Kenobi again only for the ghost of Qui Gon to come out and reawaken Anakin a bit with time for Obi Wan to leave.
I would say that Obi Wan is a B+ jedi in terms of combat/offensive force use and the idea of him throwing rocks is fricking moronic. The entire point of Obi Wan's power in the force is that its not physical power but more mind bending and redirection of energy.
The Sith see the force as an offensive weapon to dominate and the jedi see it as defensive or healing seeking to avoid direct conflict. I mean lets say Obi Wan used the force to turn the rocks into sand and then clog up Vader's suit so he couldnt attack him and just talks to him that would be fine.
The way disney portrays it is the Jedi and the Sith use the same powers but because one of them is morally virtueous its okay then.
Its really fricking lame because all of a sudden when they need to show that Obi Wan is powerful he needs to beat someone up with a bunch of rocks.
A real Obiwan move would be to use the force to get Vader to trip over his cape and then cut his helmet.
Better yet he sets a clever trap like home alone meets predator and Obi Wan wins because Vader is so predictable in his rage and overconfidence he doesnt see that he should not engage obi wan there harkening back to the Mustafar duel where Vader doesnt give the terrain enough consideration and just thinks im more skilled and powerful I win.
He does not understand yet that being careful and aware trumps his feelings for vengeance and wanting things to go a certain way. He wants to feel emotionally validated with a spectacular victory
>Anakin gets defeated by sand
They should have done that, fricking hilarious
>The way disney portrays it is the Jedi and the Sith use the same powers but because one of them is morally virtueous its okay then.
You are absolutely correct. There is no nuance in the force. They just use it as plot-armor. And there is no differentiation between the light side and dark side tactics. Its like in combat sports (and other sports like tennnis) you can have an aggressive attacking, or a defensive, counter-attacking strategy. Obviously given the lore behind the force, the Jedi and the Sith, these specific techniques would fit the philosophies of the respective characters.
But writing sucks now days. People don't know how to create engaging narratives, or interesting characters. They see reality as a simplified, moronic straw-man narrative. Why would their art and propaganda be any more complex?
>must I teach you this lesson again, Vader? You can't beat me when I have the high ground!
When I watch New Hope, I don’t believe this happened. It just doesn’t fit in. It’s all fanfiction and is worth as little attention
Why didn't to old obi just do this again? It was only ten years later.
No boulders on the Death Star, moron.
because there is no high ground in space
>there's no "up" in space
>meaning the high ground only exists from a certain point of view
Clever.
>When you bring the higher ground to Anakin
Lmao this is literally SWTOR where in the name of balance Jedi Consulars throw stones, debris and metal scrap (depending on environment) instead of using force lightning.
oh so it actually is capeshit
>literally takes possession of the high ground
its like glazed earthenware
why is it so shaky? for frick sake
>It's over Anakin! This time I'M THE GROUND!
It's like pottery
Needs an edit with Vader's NOOOOOO from RotS while he's being pelted with rocks
>if you strike me down, I will become more powerful than you could possibly imagine
>gets struck down
>doesn't become powerful, just a weak ghost that can spy on leia in the shower and constantly annoy vader while he's trying to sleep
becoming the galaxys greatest voyeur is very powerful from his point of view
He could finally watch Leia undress 10 years later
Everyone knows that already, except for, when I left you I was but a student.
Learner
Whatever. The point is that they had a history that they weren't telling anyone else about yet.
It doesn’t matter since now it can be understood as Kenobi fricking with Vader by mentioning his title and reminding him that he is only a master of evil, ”darth”
When did the episode IV V VI numbers first appear?
1981
>Star Wars
>Star Wars Episode V: Empire Strikes Back
Bravo Lucas
No, ESB had it on its first day.
1980 when ESB released, and 1981 when ANH was re-released the episode IV title was added
>Alec was just over 60 in this scene
Man people aged like shit back then
Look at the pictures and videos of high schoolers back then. They all looked in their 30's
People aged normally back then. Now there's fluoride in the water which means our cells don't age naturally which puts us at greater risk of developing cancers and diseases.
moron
people smoked 30 cigarettes a day and huffed leaded gasoline
they also went out into the sun/lived an actual life, and their food wasn't almost entirely poisons. oh and they didn't have mystery injections and 500 prescriptions and drugs. they may look worse but were more healthy, our collective health has gone down over the years.
take your meds
take your hormones
hell yes I do
I remember in grade school in the 80s they'd give us fluoride treatments in the nurse's office. It was a stupid mouthpiece doused in the shit and it was horrible and it was the one thing I remember from childhood that filled me with rage.
Sounds like autist rage.
Frick off ameritard
People spent way more time outdoors, also men weren't gays and didn't put much thought into skin care.
its just the gray hair, put white hair con Ewan and he looks even older than Alec
everybody smoked and there was lead in the gasoline
Bravo Luke Ass
the first star wars was the only decent one, and it has horrible dialogue
Were there people in 1981 seeing star wars episode v and wondering if they missed 3 movies?
Nah, but it was kinda exciting and unusual. It made people feel like they were thrust into the middle of this expansive story and the mystery of what might have happened at the beginning was really interesting.
I remember my dad explaining why to me. Must have read it in Starlog or whatever.
the mystery added to the sense of wonder that Star Wars had, which is why now we are living an actual hell
Star Wars was, is and always will be a shit franchise made for moronic manchildren.
yeah, and?
I'm not the one getting pissy because my lazer sword franchise is "ruined"
and I'm not the one posting that Star Wars was/is always shit on a Star Wars thread on fricking Cinemaphile
Yeah, how dare people criticize new product that is inferior to what came before. We should all just be complacent all the time.
I mean, that's all franchises. Learn to have fun as well as sex
watch obi wan
You could call Count Doku simply "count" and it wouldn't sound weird, it's his title
>You can't win, Admiral.
>You can't win, Count.
>You can't win, Captain.
>You can't win, Darth.
>You can't win, Lord.
>You can't win, King,
>You can't win, Prince-Regent.
>You can't win, Earl.
>My name is Earl Vader. I'm Darth's brother from Arkansas.
DARk lord of the siTH, Vader
Darth is a title,
Lucas was exploring father-son themes since the first draft
>Sheev promises Anakin that he can save his pregnant wife, knowing full well it's all bullshit and that she and presumably her kids will die
>Sheev names him Dark Father
Why not? There's Obi-Wan and Ben.
your real dad was a one night stand
ur a retcon
Back in 77 Lucas planned 9 movies. Everyone knew it. 18+ zoomie.
holy shit I didn't remember how bad the acting was, Portman has an Oscar for fricks sakes
>You cant win, The Dark Father of Luke and Leia
I hate shit wars so much, it's unreal.
Since star wars takes place a long time ago, what if the alien craft that crashlanded in the usa actually contained blueprints of Dexter's Diner and that's why all diners looked similar in the 1950s
It's a real set though hoho
I love prequels
everything else is meh
>You can’t win, Jedi
>You can’t win, senator
>You can’t win, foolish samurai warrior
>You suck dicks, OP
I did not trained Luke because i was too much of a homosexual to not kill you back then and i'm not a liar, everything was taught to me by the woman that you thought you killed
My will is Reeva Darth
Ummmm achtually Luke was originally named starkiller but then Lucas reconned it to skywalker and RoTJ originally stood for revenge of the jedi until it was retconned
all of Star Wars is a cluster frick
>marvel quipping in the 1970s
He was a good friend
How did Luke find the time to legally change his name to Red after escaping the Death Star?
Some retcons are better than others.
Imagine if instead of devoting his entire life to this one fricking franchise George Lucas actually kept making kino. He'd be regarded as one of the greatest American directors
moron
>no one is eber addressed simply by a title
Not half of their title. You wouldnt call the vice president, vice.
is there an explanation why Padme went by the name "Padme" when she was undercover and switched places with Sabe? I'm not understanding why everyone was calling this random handmaiden Padme, which just also happens to be the princess's name
>the original trilogy is one big retcon
Yes but not all the retcons are bad by default.
If a retcon doesn't contradict what was previously estabilited, doesn't ruins the characters involved and actually manages to improve a character (like in Vader's case , since otherwise he would've been just a cool looking dude killed unceremoniously inside a stupid ship instead of the baddass sith lord we got) than there is nothing wrong with them.
The problem is that Many hacks started relying too much on them to the point they've saturated the general writing opinion, and so the became something related to bad writing by default
at least it works unlike shoehorning in a relationship between obi-wan and leia
it's a film for children who cares get a life
>it's a film for children who cares get a life
>Children consume product.
>Children become influenced by product. >Children's opinions and behavior agree with product.
>Child has no other values than those espoused by the culture and its products.
>We lose our own children to the culture.
>Our future degrades further.
How could this have happened!?!?!?!