Possibly the worst episode yet, made even worse by the terrible manipulative montage and clumsy attempts at being "poignant" with allusions to suicide, euthanasia, and the meat industry.
Expect an awards campaign for this episode like with Pickle Rick
It was an above average episode you’re just a homosexual
above average doesn't mean much on 21/51 decent episodes
Shit taste, dude.
>this motherfucker thinks season 7 rick and morty is better than robot jones
robot jones isn't even good, but it at least presents something interesting and makes people think about it rather than dismissing everything to appeal to the fedoratippers
Was the world not ready for Robot Jones?
Yeah that montage was shit
Which is odd because their trashy indie song montages usually always hit me anyway. The borrowed time scene was sad but that was still a bad ep.
This was trash, I don’t care about some random homosexual failing at college then his roastie ex fucking another guy.
The montage failed for two reasons
One is that it had no build up. Why the fuck would you care about this guy's life? It's almost a non-sequitur
Two is a poor choice of music. 99% of a cheap heart-tug moment is the music.
Wasn’t he the guy they ate in the beginning?
Yes
Also he was a homewrecker. Was I supposed to give a fuck about that piece of shit?
Rick and Sneedy
What if Rick…was actually Sneed the entire time?
Infinity means infinity. Sneed Rick is out there.
A set being infinite tells you nothing about its contents
In an interview Justin and Dan (back when they were friends) confirmed all fan art/fanfiction is canon somewhere.
People always say this but I disagree.
they say
>there are infinite numbers between 1 and 2, and none of them are 3
but there will be a string of 0s and 1s that describe the concept of 3. And that perfectly recreate this post I'm typing right now. Along with anything else that can be represented by data
Is a binary representation of 3 the same as a real 3?
Depends on your philosophy.
In my opinion, it might as well be.
Same reason why I think the Ship of Theseus is the same ship after its planks are replaced, and why Kirk doesn't die when Scotty beams him up.
I think all things are are patterns. Patterns of information, the patterns of atoms that make up your body, etc.
If the pattern is the same then I think it's the same thing. But I know this is an unconventional worldview that not everyone agrees with
It’ll never be a quantity larger than 2 though.
neither will the amount of testicles in your nutsack
yes, base-2 or base-10 doesn't matter, its value will be consistent
now do 1/3
0.0101 (repeating)
In many programming languages, a number is inherently the binary. Base 10 (regular human) representations are just pretty wrapping paper.
>but there will be a string of 0s and 1s that describe the concept of 3
yeah no it's a string of 0s and 1s you decided to interpret as a 3, the string itself has no intrinsic anything
you can codify "ahjahsdiua" as 3 but that doesn't mean "ahjahsdiua" is a number, otherwise anything would be anything else
this post is 7
3 is just a concept. There's never been any such thing as a 3, there is no ethereal 3 floating out there somewhere in the cosmos. Three is just a word to describe a concept.
You can use different words to describe the same concept. If there was a language that was internally consistent, that had "ahjahsdiua" as its name for 3, that would still be the same concept, the same idea. It would be 3.
the point is that concept and representation are distinct
transcendental numbers cannot be represented fully ( in any base ) and can only be understood as concepts
Are you the kind of person that thinks a cartoon character *is* a person?
nta but I think that.
Do you cry when someone draws a character getting hurt? Should it be illegal because it’s causing harm to a being?
Yes.
Do you not know what nta means?
I thought you meant not-the-asshole but now I see you meant not-that-anon. I was confused, sorry for being rude
Nacho Tuesday Alimony
Normie Toes Anatolly
Nand theft auto
No. Cartoon characters don't have minds, they can't think for themselves. They can only say what writers and voice actors get them to.
If you really wanted to stretch definitions, maybe you could argue that they share the collective minds of everyone involved in the cartoon's production, but even then that wouldn't make them the same as a person.
stop pretending to be me retard
But anon, by your bad logic any collection of information can be decoded as a brain. You're murdering countless fictional characters every time you disrupt the air with your movement!
Even if I did believe that (which I don't. I never said any pattern can be interpreted as any other pattern), it would be irrelevant because fictional characters have no agency. They can't affect the world. Writers can use fictional characters to affect the world, but that's an actual person doing that, not the fictional character.
> I never said any pattern can be interpreted as any other pattern
But it can and you did
You just failed to understand that persistent existence and interaction requires CONSISTENT encoding.
Look up bolzmann brains
I know what a Boltzmann brain is, I just don't see how it's relevant to the discussion, because I'm not talking about entropy or quantum mechanics.
What I said is that between between 1 and 2 are a string of numbers (I said 0s and 1s because it's familiar) that encode anything that can be represented by data. And then I shared my personal opinion about what constitutes definable thing. I said things are distinct patterns, that's why I mentioned the Ship of Theseus and Star Trek transporters. I even acknowledged that this opinion is unconventional.
I never said every pattern is the same as every other pattern. That's practically the opposite of what I'm trying to communicate.
A random arrangement of air molecules is not the same as the molecules that constitute your body. I'm not a complete nihilist you know.
>I don't see how a boltzmann brain is relevant to the idea that a sequence of information being capable of representing a brain for one single instant means nothing because it has no consistency outside of that instant
That's because you're dumb
An infinite set of numbers between one and two doesn't contain three, and claiming it does because you can use a different encoding scheme to consider 2 to mean 3 is as retarded as saying Boltzmann brains matter.
There's no such thing as 3. 3 is a concept. I already stated this.
If you can define the concept in a different way, if you can replicate the pattern using different words, then it doesn't matter what medium you use. The data between 1 and 2 that describe 3 to me are the same thing as an actual 3. Because 3 is an idea.
The Ship of Theseus is the same ship after its planks are replaced, because all the ship is is a pattern. If you replicate the pattern in another medium, then it's the same ship. If you take captain Kirk apart and put him back together again, he never died, because his pattern still exists in the universe.
Most people already think this way selectively. We would agree that if we clicked on OP's image, we would both be receiving the same image. Even though they are downloaded to memory on completely different computers, and are displaying on different monitors.
The same pattern, represented in different mediums.
Also, assuming Boltzmann brains are real, and that given infinite time every permutation of them will come to exist, then even if each individual one only exists for an instant, there will be ones who remember being some previous one. To them, they will feel like they have a continuity of existence.
That to me is the same as what I experience. Every moment I'm a slightly different person. Who I am now is different than who I was a minute ago. Every version of me only existed for an instant. What I experience is indistinguishable to what a Boltzmann brain would experience
No, the logical end to my argument is that every version of reality is real and that we are all doomed to both the most torturous hells and orgasmic heavens. But I didn't even bring that part up because even I realize it sounds like schizo-posting.
>I am the version of myself being tortured in hell
Big oof.
if it's any consolation I am you and you are me and we are all together
skookook a'joob
>There's no such thing as 3
That's idiotic. Concepts exist. Organization exists.
>The data between 1 and 2 that describe 3 to me are the same thing as an actual 3
Which is a dumber way of saying that under a different encoding scheme whatever currently represents 1.5 actually represents 3. It's technically true, BUT THAT'S NOT THE ENCODING IN USE.
>A replication is the same
You need philo 101, identical vs same. The key difference is oneness
>Continuity of consciousness is oneness because that's how we experience it
Gibberish. You can't just decide explicitly faulty human cognition is the foundation of an underlying concept.
Do you think the property of roundness would cease to exist if there were no people?
The latter two are also complete non-sequiturs. No, in fact, all three are because the actual thought being expressed is that an infinite number of universes does not necessarily contain anything.
>That's idiotic. Concepts exist. Organization exists.
Concepts exist in an abstract sense, but they're not tangible.
3 does not exist in physical reality. It's an idea that describes an aspect of the world in a way that is useful. But it's not real.
Similarly, round is a word we use to describe the world. Things we define as round wouldn't go away if humanity was gone. But the idea of what is or isn't round would, because concepts require minds in order to be comprehended. To be distinguished from other concepts.
And you say 3 can't be encoded in any other way, like it's some ridiculous notion. Different base counting systems already exist, we already have different ways of describing numbers than you or I are used to. And the words and systems we use to describe concepts is irrelevant when discussing hypothetical alternatives.
You keep talking down to me, that because you disagree with me that means I don't understand you.
You think that for a thing to be considered the a coherent unified thing (what you call oneness) their iterations need to be directly linked temporally. And you think that because I disagree with you, that I'm a nothing but a jibbering idiot.
I've already explained my reasoning in previous posts decently well. I see no reason to continue this conversation if you're going to willingly misinterpret everything I say.
>I never said every pattern is the same as every other pattern
You didn't have to, it's the logical end of your argument.
An infinite number of apples doesn't have an orange
Learn the diagonal argument you fuckin' cretin.
RRRR I CAN'T!
I DON'T UNDERSTAND MATH
in binary data if you had a 3 instead of a 1 it would be the same as a 1. It's not really 1 and 0, it's 0 and not-0, we just use 1 to represent not-zero.
ZERO TO HERO
IN NO TIME FLAT
ZERO TO HERO
JUST LIKE THAT
3 in binary is 11
binary data not binary representation of the number.
Retard.
Rudetard.
Sounds like you're the retard here friendo
using that same logic you can't count past 9 in base 10 either
you didnt disagree or disprove the guy you are quoting at all btw
>"I told you, I said you owe me three dollahs at the end of the month."
>"Yeah, you did, and that's what I gave ya"
>"You didn't give me three dollahs, this is a dollar and a dime."
>"That's three dollahs!"
>"A dollar and a dime, that's three dollahs?"
>"Well no, but it's the same as three dollahs!"
>"What's that supposed to mean, huh? If it ain't three dollahs, how could it be the same as three dollahs."
>"Well, listen."
>"Uh huh."
>"You ever hear uh binary?"
>"Course I heard uh binary. I went to school. In fact I went to university."
>"That's great. You see, every number can be represented by a series of just ones and zeros, right?"
>"That's right."
>"Yeah, so. If I was to use base ten, and I owed three dollahs, I'd need to use not just zero and one, but also two, three, four, five, si-"
>"GET ONE WITH IT YA LAZY BUM"
>"Hey hey, I'm just tryna explain it to ya! Listen, I'd need ALLLLLL those numbahs, just to pay ya three lousy dollahs, right?"
>"That's right?"
>"Well say I can't afford all those numbahs. Say I only got enough in the bank for zeroes and ones. Up in Manhattan I'm sure they can afford sixes and sevens and even nines, but why do I gotta own all those numbahs, if I only owe ya three, right?"
>"Right..."
>"But you only need two numbahs, so I figured, hey! One three is as good as any, right?"
>"And you gave me a dollar and a dime?"
>"Yeah, that's 1.1. 11 is 3 in binary, ain't it?"
>"You know, I think you've sold me on your way of doing finances."
>"Really?"
>"Yeah. I wanna thank you. Let me write you a check for 10 dollahs."
>Abbott hands Costello a check, on which is written "0000000000 dollars."
>"Hey hey hey what's the big idea!"
>"That's 10 in unary. Even cheaper than binary. Hey, you know what? Take anothah ten for the road."
>Both exit stage right
nice one anon
>but there will be a string of 0s and 1s that describe the concept of 3
Holy jej. Retard moment
>but there will be a string of 0s and 1s that describe the concept of 3
modern education is a failure at every level
Chuck and Sneedy?
the Rick multiverse is finite, only evil Morty acceded to the real omniverse
He'd be Reed
He already is. The Council of Ricks is a blatant rip off of the Council of Reeds.
Shid and fardy
How do you fuck up a cheap montage
All you have to do is use The Fray
Look: https://youtu.be/4HXzgEidYrQ?si=8-OBHNVQKRcyKMi4
This song is too corny to be sad, maybe it's a product of it's time
Just finished watching the episode and it’s odd how a show that makes fun of so many tropes and formulas has one of the most predictable formulas around
>rick does something morally questionable
>morty finds it fucked up
>monty tries changing it but fucks things up
>rick is proven right in the end
Reddit and memey is like an inversion of the 1970s archie bunker show formula
>archie is a wwii vet who hates everyone who isn't specifically himself/a white anglo saxon episcopalian whose ancestors came over on the mayflower
>people like him because he doesn't give a fuck and doesn't pretend, the writers cannot understand because he's supposed to be an unlikable asshole
>no one likes his liberal boomer hippie son in law who is supposed to be the good guy
>rick is written as an unlikable asshole who is always correct and the writers specifically believe this is the secret to his popularity
>but rick is actually a detestable person and his bit is stale
>people feel bad for jerry even if he's a retard, because everyone shits on him even when he did literally nothing
rick and morty is just sliders but with fart jokes and more insufferable characters
R&M couldn't hold the jock strap of Sliders.
yeah any attempt at showing rick as a more complex character that learns from his mistakes is undermined by the fact that his nihilistic worldview and cynicism is almost always proven right
it's especially weird in this episode because why was he even feeding his family the spaghetti to begin with? couldn't he predict it would end up like this if someone just walked into the kitchen? why is he "the one who was right all along" when this whole situation was his fault and would have been avoided if he wasn't a weird cynical piece of shit?
>it's especially weird in this episode because why was he even feeding his family the spaghetti to begin with? couldn't he predict it would end up like this if someone just walked into the kitchen? why is he "the one who was right all along" when this whole situation was his fault and would have been avoided if he wasn't a weird cynical piece of shit?
I would probably chock that up to his horrible impulse control and terrible interpersonal skills.
It follows the story circle. The problem is that morty always has to get hit heavy with the pay stage. Rick on the other hand most of the time ignores the pay stage due to his mary sue powers, it's his whole character. In the original series rick did often have to pay, but after s2 they decided to ignore it for rick and it has been that way since.
Using the Story Circle for the individual episodes kinda sucks, honestly. It just be used for the entire season as a whole
what about that time zeus kicked his ass in season 4
You: Rick starts in his usual state, living a chaotic and reckless life, full of technological experiments and adventures.
Need: Rick encounters an unknown, god-like entity that challenges his beliefs and existence. This being presents a need for Rick to confront his understanding of the universe and his place in it.
Go: Rick decides to confront and challenge this god-like being to prove his superiority and maintain his sense of control and independence.
Search: Rick embarks on a quest to challenge God, which takes him on a surreal journey that includes facing various trials and tests.
Find: Ultimately, Rick faces and engages with the god-like entity, engaging in a battle of wits and power.
Take: During the confrontation, Rick experiences a crisis of identity and existential doubt, making a significant decision that forces him to question his own beliefs and the nature of his reality.
Return: After the battle with God, Rick returns to his ordinary life, but he is changed. He now grapples with the knowledge that the universe is more complex and mysterious than he initially believed.
Change: The episode ends with Rick demonstrating a shift in his character, as he is seen pondering the implications of the encounter and the possibility that he may not have all the answers he thought he did.
I wouldn't be surprised if Dan had this tattooed on his asshole.
this is literally the heros journey but trying to be claimed by some souless bastard.
It is but its also simplified that it works with literally every movie and scene since its more generic. Which is funny enough that a lot of movies still fail to do this for characters.
Can they just let a single genuine moment happen? There's legit fun action or some decent character stuff that's ruined by a shitty stuttering improve joke or needed gore.
Zoomers are not capable of taking anything seriously
/LULZ/ kissless virgin that feels everything too much, the episode
So, Harmon episode?
Yeah he needs to shut it down.
This was so bland and try hard that I’d 100% recommend people watch the Simpsons new tree house of horror instead.
Revival era Simpsons is about as good as Zombie era Rick and Morty.
>Hey Marge I turned our son into an NFT!
Yeah no, fuck that
The episode was a 5/10. One half of it is funny and feels like a classic episode, the other half is a little drab. For instance Rick and Morty trying to find out how to create artificial life that can commit suicide and provide spagehhti in a way that doesn't disgust anybody was pretty funny. The president had some good lines. But the episode tries a little too hard to be serious. That guy's flashback is too long for example. I think it would have been better if someone tried to eat him regardless and Rick and Morty just left the planet to implode.
Cringe Reddit fedora show
grass tastes bad
Honestly it was a good episode about the monetization of grief, the lack of willingness of a for profit system to actually cure what ails its members, and the capacity of anyone to become a conscientious objector against what they benefit from once they know more about it instead of just taking a stance because of surface morals.
It wasn't the most compelling art but it had more to say than Vindicators 3.
Just because it's art you don't like doesn't mean it's bad, it's just not for you.
I personally thought it was tone death considering the shows history. They've made entire episodes about enjoying the suffering of Jerry and other background characters, audiences (including Rick & Morty viewers) just crave more suffering.
You meant tone deaf
If your idea of art is boring, then it's not art. It's just useless shit.
> allusions to suicide, euthanasia, and the meat industry.
So you got so hung up on the meat thing, you ended up missing the overall point of the episode, and now you have to neg it so other people can't enjoy what you refuse to?
I know that the writing credits are meaningless, but isn't it weird how both episodes credited to Heather Anne Campbell revolve around seemingly ordinary food having a dark secret behind it?
maybe she has a food fetish
I think the team intentionally tests directions under intentionally chosen writer names to easily see what types of episodes people don’t like. Nick Rutherford is usually singled out as the worst.
Yeah the writing room is mostly a collaborative effort, but there are still some episodes that are mostly written by one person.
First one that comes to mind is the decoy family episode
They had the idea for a while but it was Albro Lundy who finally went ahead and worked out the plot details (or at least that's the impression I get after watching that inside the episode video)
And Ryan Ridley was the best imo
She realized that the pickle rick formula works on dumb normies.
Take mundane thing (food) + plus edgy and scary = laugh
The episode was actually surprisingly pro-meat consumption.
>Cells consume, Morty. Life itself is wrong. And that means death is right, but you can't side with that, so you live, even when it means eating.
one of rick's cringiest lines of all time
When did Rick become a Calvinist?
It's impressive. You would think as a Mexican he would be a Catholic.
Wait was there seriously one for Pickle Rick? Chuds seriously thought that episode was deep and meaningful??????
Pickle Rick won an Emmy.
I literally do not understand what the fuck you are talking about, this was better than most of the entire series. What episode did you even watch? It was a complex, interesting topic explored really well, the writing was good-to-great depending on taste, we got some good visual humor, a little hit of the old ultraviolence, some decent jokes and bits, and a really solid ending. What even could you be complaining about? It wasn't even a summer and beth episode! It was good, classic, excellent Rick and Morty like season 2! Jesus christ some people have all the taste of uncooked flour: not a lot of it, and what is there I don't like.
people here like hating on things, i dont know if its for the sake of getting (you)'s, if they are so depressed and angry at life they cant enjoy any form of entertainment (and i know thats a plausible possibility because i have been depressed) or if this website just attracts that very specific kind of retard
maybe its all three, idk
>It was a complex, interesting topic explored really well
Go back vegan scum
if the message you took from this episode was "don't eat-a the spaghetti, it's-a immoral", I think you might have zero media literacy. And I don't even mean that in an "I'm smarter than you" sense, I mean that in an "I genuinely don't understand how someone could watch the ending of the episode and come away with the takeaway that eating the spaghetti is wrong". It would mean you didn't hear literally anything Rick said at the end of the episode. It would mean you saw the montage, made an assumption about the meaning of the episode, and turned it off. And if you're going to do that, you might as well go watch We Baby Bears.
>calling others not media literate right before saying Rick's opinion is the message
hilarious
well, okay, I mean you've got some amount of a point that rick's perspective isn't necessarily the "point of the episode", but when they give him the best lines and give him a coherent argument, like the whole shpiel at the end about the complexity of life, it's hard not to see that as the "message". Certainly rick has been a stupid pointless asshole before in the show, but that was clearly what the audience was meant to take away: sometimes, people aren't ready to know how the sausage is made, and they need to know when shit is above their paygrade and to keep their fucking noses out of it. Not because it's "right" to do so, but because the alternative is not getting to eat the spaghetti, and everyone is miserable and everything sucks. It's an overt criticism on moral purity culture and aggressive veganism, and they even made sure to tackle both positions on the issue.
Anyone who's R&M literate will see that his message was presented in the way that the show always presents its serious messages and therefore come to the conclusion that it was meant to be a serious message. If the writers didn't intend it to be taken seriously, they messed up by presenting it the same way that they present serious messages.
I hope you're joking. If not, funny how we can get such different reads from the same show. Ha ha.
Do you think that the final message speeches in previous episodes were also not meant to be taken serioisly?
NTA
Rick's take are most often subversions of the intended message because he's a violent misanthrope
But usually the writers offer some kind of rebuttal to him, which provides the real final message, or his message is one that nobody ever says seriously in real life. In this episode, there was no rebuttal to him after his final speech and what he said is a position that people seriously hold in real life, as opposed to something like "don't make fun of my vat of acid."
>But usually the writers offer some kind of rebuttal to him
No, he typically gets the last word because he's Rick.
>what he said is a position that people seriously hold in real life
No, I'm sorry, "life is immoral so it doesn't matter" is not a common philosophy and the writers were almost certainly not actually arguing that people shouldn't question where their food comes from. What Rick said was not only clearly not the main thrust of the episode, it was essentially nonsensical.
It's also condescending horseshit no matter what the message was. People have already pointed out how retarded it was that anyone was put off eating the spaghetti because they saw its life.
>No, he typically gets the last word because he's Rick.
And whenever he does and the writers don't want us to take what he says seriously, they don't present his position the same way that they typically present their actual messages.
>No, I'm sorry, "life is immoral so it doesn't matter" is not a common philosophy and the writers were almost certainly not actually arguing that people shouldn't question where their food comes from
That's oversimplifying what he said, and even then that's still something that a significant amount of people do believe in real life.
>It's also condescending horseshit no matter what the message was. People have already pointed out how retarded it was that anyone was put off eating the spaghetti because they saw its life.
Well, if you already think that the episode was retarted condescensing horseshit, maybe you can also consider the possibility that it featured a message that you don't agree with.
Oh it was about our meat industry. I thought it was just them being edgy at first.
> Oh it was about our meat industry
What do you mean?
midwit needs to connect the dots to a "current issue" because they can't take the full complexity of the themes otherwise
ignore them
Alright.
Honestly, I suck at detecting hidden meanings in stuff, so all I saw was just a slightly edgy episode about spaghetti people
It was pro-meat industry because of what rick said at the end, which essentially amounted to killing to eat is just part of life so it's okay.
But it also explored the more vegan-ish perspectives on the matter too.
Make your conclusions.
Didn't catch on its was the meat industry till they got to the engineering alternatives part.
if them trying to get Morty to feel good about eating it didn't clue you in, the "ethically sourced spaghetti" bit should have spelled it out I think.
can't find a single torrent for that shit
what's a good tracker these days
personally i just used levidia
torrent galaxy or eztv, i prefer torrent galaxy
Pickle rick was cool
I personally prefer Simple Rick's, a much tastier and well written food.
Tales from the Citadel is the best written episode in the whole show so it's hard to compete
oh i'm sorry, I was trying to say that i found the episode uninspired. the wafer cookie shares some of the same ideas except it was executed better.
this episode took that gag, jumbled it will whole bunch of old ideas, and created this episode.
It was honestly one of the best episodes in a long while.
Is there a mega? Did anyone bother?
Not Mega, but here's a download link: https://drop.download/rsiciz8pdsdz/Rick.and.Morty.S07E04.WEBRip.x264-XEN0N.mkv
It's low image quality though.
Disgusting. I'll just get it off IRC
Is it bad that I still want to eat those spaghetti?
They did a good job making it look delicious
Why does it matter if we knew his life? He literally was fine with it being synthesized. If anything not eating him is more disrespectful. If anything the fact that a creature can give informed consent to be eaten if anything is the answer to veganism. This is literally the answer to veganism and yet it's treated as horrible? He lived a life, he lived a good life in fact. He chose his death. He didn't suffer. The rest will be synthesized from this original source that gave direct consent. I don't get why this is bad? If anything this should make it more moral. Eating that dude's cloned meat is more moral than eating a cow. It's dumb.
>Why does it matter if we knew his life?
Because the writer is a stupid hippie that genuinely thinks no one would eat meat if they saw where it comes from.
The montage was terrible but everyone's reaction to it was worse. It's pretty fucking hacky to write a sequence and then write "and everyone is so moved by the sequence I wrote that they swear off meat!"
>Because the writer is a stupid hippie that genuinely thinks no one would eat meat if they saw where it comes from.
People who work in animal slaughter tend to suffer from higher rates of poor mental health, so that notion isn't entirely unfounded.
Everyone saw one montage of a dude's life and vomited
That's pretty different from wading through shit and blood in busted hazmat gear for 14 hours
It's a visual short hand to get the point across that a lot of urbanite first worlders who have never been to a farm would be disturbed by knowing in explicit detail where a lot of their food comes from.
I'm pretty sure everyone already know that beef comes from cows. And also everyone knows what a cow is.
Most people don't watch the life drain out from every animal that they eat.
People put it out of their minds. There's deeper theories on this that explain the psychology behind ancient religions practicing animal sacrificing as means to resolve the conflict between killing animals you raise for food and the feeling of uncleanliness associated with.
In many cultures, animal butchering was often allocated as a job for the unclean classes, not something pure people should be involved in, like the burukamin in Japan for instance.
Humans were made to hunt animals, not farm them. Most people on some level find the concept perturbing.
>People put it out of their minds
Yes. Easily. Without effort.
Hippies think people are blind or ignoring the horrors of factory farming and wouldn't eat perdue if they saw the facilities.
They have and they would. People genuinely do not give a fuck. You could hook a device to a pig that lets it speak and prove they are human level intelligences and WE WOULD STILL KILL THAT PIG FOR BACON
We're not ignorant, Karen, we just don't give a fuck
>You could hook a device to a pig that lets it speak and prove they are human level intelligences and WE WOULD STILL KILL THAT PIG FOR BACON
Not true. People give rights to things on the basis of them being able to communicate.
Animals and fetuses are life but get their rights taken away since they can't communicate.
>People give rights to things on the basis of them being able to communicate.
Machines can communicate, so why didnt we give Chat-GPT rights yet?
That's not real communication, that's just copying things they've heard before, like a parrot
>like a parrot
Nice and Delicious, I call it RickAlaMortadella in honor of this shitthread
It's not real communication. But even then with the very little "sapience" machines have there are
already people considering doing that.
you are an actual retarded schizo if you think computers are talking to you. that's a box, my nagger
>that's a box, my nagger
Thats my WAIFU you are talking about, sir
>you are an actual retarded schizo if you think computers are talking to you. that's a box, my nagger
This reads like something that would get posted alongside a soijak
Why are AI supporters so fucking stupid?
>People give rights to things on the basis of them being able to communicate
Not at all. Plenty of animals are capable of communicating with humans. Apes and Octopi are the smartest ones (we eat the fuck out of octopi) but most reasonably sized mammals can learn basic words and communication.
Should have specificed: communication on a sapient level.
Groups in the past like women and minorities got rights because they were able to express they didn't like being treated a certain way, which allowed them to build a culture of slave morality to retaliate against their oppressors.
Animals can't do this.
No one eats apes. Maybe in SEA they do but they eat people there too so
It's illegal most places but you'll still find it for sale if you look.
Apes aren't tasty and can make you very sick
>Humans were made to hunt animals, not farm them
Humans werent made you christcuck
Maybe he's a christcuck but he could also be speaking figuratively.
We are as God made us and you will never be a woman.
Kys redditfag.
Which is wrong. They wouldn't.
The fucking nightly news has done factory farming stories with gross images, people know how their food is treated. By and large they don't care.
That's the point. Only a hippie projecting super hard thinks that anything analogous to that would work.
maybe, but if you've ever lived in a rural muslim country where you tie up and kill and gut a cow or a sheep for the holidays it's a jolly old time for the whole family. End of the day you just will not feel the same for a cow or sheep as you do a human, they're livestock, it's nonsensical to compare.
I'm an urbanite, but I've still caught and help prepared my own fish before, during group outings. Is this idea that people do or don't understand what they are doing by eating meat really such a lynchpin in this debate for people?
That probably has more to do with horrifying factory conditions. My uncle is a self employed butcher and he seems perfectly happy and loves eating meat.
>The rest will be synthesized
that was a lie rick told to get the guy in the memory chair.
Eating the cloned meat would be, but the rest of "consent" was shown to be manipulated throughout the episode by encouraging their citizens to commit suicide. Like, there were issues even with the fully consenting creatures.
You know it's funny because R&M made me too aware of the fucking indie music heart tug pretentious shit. I was watching Invincible earlier, and when Karma Police came up, I lowered the volume. It was just a fucking boring ass scene.
this is almost a point except that invincible scene is great, that song choice fits pretty well.
where can I even watch it anymore?
The second I gave up on the show completely over the weird Beth fucking herself episode, it starts to crash and burn. I hope everyone still involved gets falsely accused of rape and money laundering.
Fuck this show and what it stands for and fuck whoever still supports it.
I wrote off any hope of the show returning to form long ago, but I'll admit that when I saw the cold open I didn't have "vegan screed" on my bingo card
>I gave up on the show completely over the weird Beth fucking herself episode
literally this. the last 5 episodes before that were actually good and it gave me false hope. every episode after s6e2 so far has been extremely meh or absolute dogshit.
>lesbian selfcest is le bad
We get it, we get it, you are fags and proud.
I'm so tired of being required to like every instance of lesbians or else the gay accusations fly. It's just not that hot. Lesbians is like a teenager's first fetish because "more women = better" is the best math their undeveloped minds can muster. But then you realize it's just kind of boring.
I guess I could expect this from someone looking for faps from shitty, ugly, american adult animated sitcoms though.
The catch that teenagers don't understand, because they are still too naive to the ways of the world, is that it's multiple women, but it's almost always multiple women who are specifically avoiding you. It would be like having a fetish for women leaving to go to the restroom together. Pathetic.
If the cultural context of lesbianism were removed and it wasn't a way of signaling unavailability to men it would be based. But that's a pretty foreign concept to us. The closest thing in our culture would be, like, an FFM threesome, but those are rare and frequently retarded in their own way.
To be fair, teenagers only really like the fake lesbians in porn (whether they realize it's fake or not). Young pretty girls paid to leave their inhibitions at the door, not the real man hating bulldykes with shaved heads and bodies resembling their fathers who gave up on men after forming extreme resentment in their youths.
Have you ever actually met a lesbian?
They're pretty chill.
It's to the point where I get a little mad that all the cool chicks that are calm and fun to hang out with all munch carpet.
I think the hardest thing for some men to understand is that being a lesbian is something that for most women has nothing to do with men at all. They're not doing it to get attention or because they developed resentment for men, they don't hate men, they are just attracted exclusively to women like a straight man would be.
>because they developed resentment for men, they don't hate men
Whatever you do, don't look up "political lesbianism"
yeah lesbians tend to make better bros than straight women for some reason, idk why. they're just usually more fun to talk to
Don't bother, yuricucks genuenly can't wrap their heads around the subjective nature of having a fetish.
>gay accusations
WHo said anything about being gay? I called you a homosexual, since you cant appreciate how hot the concept of a woman fucking her own clone is.
Also the idea of Jerry and Beth's marriage is now a polycule with space Beth is incredibly sexy, same with Mr. Nimbus.
>same with Mr. Nimbus
Okay, NOW you're gay.
But NOT a homosexual
Anon is it gay to be in a relationship with women?
MISTER Nimbus is decidedly not female.
But the two Beths are.
Then why was your reply to the post about Mr. Nimbus?
So... do you think it was just the Beths that fucked Nimbus? Because it wasn't.
Nimbus seems like the kind of guy that only fucks women and only gets fucked by guys.
I wasn't really interested in establishing pitchers and catchers, but alright.
With Beth it's probably just twice the bitching and nitpicking. Hell, the second one is even more aloof and resentful, having the mindset that she escaped Jerry to go play space cowboy or whatever.
Bring back Justin #Justiceforjustin
no jess
not care
Is this the episode they hyped up as the next pickle rick?
It is
Expect an emmy campaign
From the clip and the feedback I thought this was going to be an episode about Alzheimer's or something with Rick losing his memory and Morty having to remind him or something and whether or not it was better for Morty to let Rick forget about his wife's killer etc and let the genius's mind melt. And instead it was just about teaching Americans how food is made because they're so far removed from their food source they forget animals have to get killed to become frozen dinners for sad people.
Ngl little disappointed.
How much better would the show be if it only had canonical episodes? Those are usually the best.
why the fuck are you nerds debating philosophy in a rick and morty thread
what does this shit have to do with the episode
Read the beginning of the conversation and find out.
>a sneed shitpost sparked a 8+ hour long debate
Cinemaphile truly is the most autistic board
It used to be worse but has mellowed out as the twitter refugees have moved on to other boards like /tg/ and /vt/.
Because that's what the episode was about, retard.
to be fair you have to have a high iq to discuss rick and morty...
>episode pitch was literally "Everything can be a Rick and Morty episode!"
Well yeah, the show was literally designed so they could tell any kind of story they wanted. And every idea has to start somewhere
>woman abandonds her kids and husband to marry a rich ex
that part was too real
...oh
The montage straight up paints it as if it's a good thing, huh.
They could have at least shown that he's abusive or something
Did you guys not notice that the guy in the flashback is the guy rick/morty ate and went to his funeral, where he killed himself and became a depressed wreck due to the events of flashback?
Of course not, there were like 15 minutes between these two moments. And it's not like anyone pays attention to the faces of dead people anyway. It's a Rewatch Bonus
no wonder he killed himself
Just because the ex-husband killed himself doesn't mean the Mom abandoned her kids.
We don't know whether she did or not.
>became a depressed wreck due to the events of flashback?
but there's like a 30 years timeskip after the divorce
Yeah on rewatch the kids are at the funeral all grown up.
Why is his abdomen bandanged?
Rick scooped the spaghetti out of him
But… it’s a flashback…
>foreshadowing in a flashback
CINEMA
we don't know that she abandoned her kids
it could just be that the flashback guy never became a big part of their life, so when his life was flashing before his eyes they never really showed up.
For all we know, his wife could have visited her kids every weekend or even every day
It was written by woman, anon.
Don't act so surprised.
Ticked me off, too.
Such a weirdly complex backstory for a punchline that was supposed to convince me it's not worth eating his spaghetti cum. Aliens were literally goading the humans into suicide, and the suicide bridge had fucking meat grinders underneath, how could anyone be moved by this soap opera bullshit?
They wrote themselves into a corner with the delicious spaghetti and couldn't find a way to make it conclude, so they didn't even bother rewriting the first draft.
life is messy, and nobody is perfect.
I think most people understand this.
he was imperfect, and therefore relatable. and therefore unpalatable.
the grass is green, the sky is blue. We all understand that. Were YOU emotionally affected by this? I guess I'm just not the audience for R&M anymore.
I almost teared up during the flashback scene, but I stopped myself.
I agree. People need cheap protein.
Most people are already aware that factory farms are barbaric. But the more ethical sources are always more expensive.
If plant based or lab grown alternatives some day become cheaper, I think people would gladly buy those instead. But at the moment, they're expensive gimmicks for hipsters and vegans who still crave meat.
Cheap food is always toxic, and plant based anything is even more poisonous to eat.
If they put out human spaghetti right this second at wal-mart and it cost less than buying ground beef it would sell out instantly
This idea that people will balk at eating food if they know where it comes from or empathize with it is pure projection.
Shit, there are beef distributors that market by trying to make you empathize with their meat. Steaks with the name of the cow on it and a fun fact about them like a fuckin' adoption center.
People like eating meat and we know where it comes from
>This idea that people will balk at eating food if they know where it comes from or empathize with it is pure projection
how is it projection when videos from industrial butchers make most people feel bad?
>make most people feel bad?
Oh, they feel bad huh? Bad enough to stop eating meat?
The answer's "no", btw.
And some just become memes even, crab factory comes to mind.
First time seeing this. It seems quite efficient.
I was forced to watch shitty production factories and didn't care - even if I'm an empath.
I might projecting too but most people here feel the same. Feeling a bit but at the end of the day a man needs to eat and juicy meat is a lovable option.
>juicy meat is a lovable option
Weird way to phrase it but okay
I think it would be different if people knew it was human meat specifically though.
Unless we were going through a famine I really can't see the average person being that depraved.
Why is this a subject of disdain for you?
Divorce is very hard on kids, you know.
Is it the actual divorce or the breaking of the precedent that the parents will always love or be with one another?
Both, I think.
They should do an episode where Jerry tries to get a marketing job at a cheese factory or something, or a pizza one, whatever. And in his catchphrase pitch he accidentally says "parmesan" instead of "parmesian". They all become shocked at this so Jerry thinks "Oh no, I forgot they say it differently here, I blew it" and mentally prepares to be kicked out, but then it turns out they actually loved the "parmesan" and instantly hire him and make him the head of their marketing department.
Well, that's the start of it at least.
Episode ends with the family having to relocate to another universe again and they say parmesan normal.
I was thinking that Jerry keeps falling upwards the chain of command. First they make him the head of marketing, then he's in charge of the whole factory, then he becomes the owner of that entire cheese chain... Jerry's all "I don't need this! All I wanted was just to have a job!" but all the people are like "Aww, he's so humble, he should be our president!" and so Jerry becomes the President of USA...
The family loves it, even Rick is very impressed, but Jerry keeps screaming that he's a fraud and doesn't deserve any of this.
But then at the end, when he's supposed to give a speech on his "becoming the King of Earth" ceremony, he, when saying that catchphrase from the beginning of the episode, accidentally says it correctly, with "Parmesian" instead of "Parmesan", suddenly everyone start booing him and his accidental empire instantly collapses and everyone hates him now.
I missed the vegan point altogether. Seems like a lot of people got triggered by that
Was it really pro-vegan? I think it was more anti-Big Agro which isn't the same thing as veganism.
I thought it was pro-euthanasia
idk, the ending almost felt anti-vegan to me
>Cells consume, Morty. Life itself is wrong, and that means death is right. But you can't side with that. So you live, even when it means eating.
animal life has to consume other life in order to exist. that's just the nature of the world
vegans get painted as silly hippies in this episode too, especially morty.
What's up with the "two fingers in the jar" thing? Use a spoon you weirdo!
This moment was funny
Did anyone laugh at the end tag? I understood how it COULD be funny, but it just didn't amuse me like Rick and Morty has in the past
The what? You mean the post-credits scene with the vacuums finding a bag inside a dead groot?
I found it mostly just confusing honestly. Like, I get that it's supposed to parallel the episode and make it more ridiculous, but like, it's not equivalent.
It was the worst post-credits scene ever in rick and morty.
these have sucked recently, just lolsorandom for the sake of lolsorandom
at least the lawn mower one was caused by the episode, even though it still wasn't funny
pretty sure they could've come up with something much better for this episode, if they bothered to
the secret behind the salisbury steak was probably the stinger, and then they decided to keep that for another episode for "muh continuity porn" and came up with the interdimensional documentary last minute.
It was shit. Didn't even smile.
I didn't get it or I did and it wasn't funny.
It's was the theme of the main plot but with different characters.
I watched the episode with a group of friends(3) and each one of them lost their shit. Made me feel kind of uncomfortable actually because I was the only one not laughing
Stop hanging out on Cinemaphile and redevelop your ability to enjoy things that are good instead of constantly stewing and planning out your next cynical post about how it sucks
I know I'm replying to a bunch of people that hated the segment but I was just apathetic to it. Rick and morty has already done that joke plenty of time with silly parallel universes mirroring the events of the episode (phone spaghetti, chair pizza) so my response was just "oh, they're doing this again"
People can have different tastes in humor, for example, I chuckled when Summer wholeheartedly said "Pass the parmezian" as a callback whereas none of my friends did.
Oh, you were just complaining about the tag segment. I didn't check what post you were responding to. Yeah, I didn't like that either. I thought you were complaining about the whole episode.
>Stop hanging out on Cinemaphile and redevelop your ability to enjoy things that are good instead of constantly stewing and planning out your next cynical post about how it sucks
sounds like Reddit is more your speed
I don't think they do waifus on Reddit.
Did it mean that all vacuum bags come from dead groots, or just really "delicious"/high quality vacuum bags that are preferable to other sources? Because there's other kinds of spaghetti, it doesn't only come from suicidal aliens.
Cinemaphile in a nutshell
An episode can be as dumb as it wants as long as it tops it off with a good conclusion. This episode flatlined about halfway through, and the emotional climax came off as insulting to the audience. They've done emotional gags before, and this was not it. Lazy writing all around.
I expect the "lore" episode next week to also be meandering garbage.
I don't understand the ending.
One last guy kills himself, he shows everyone his life and he was a piece of shit, and that was enough to make everyone not want to eat spaghetti ever again?
yeah, I can't believe he ate jam with his fingers. what a tool. would you eat something that came from that disgusting guy's body?
>he was a piece of shit
He was "average" whose life had ups and downs like anyone else. I guess that was the point really, he wasn't supposed to be some Jesus-type character.
He used his money to steal a women from another man and break up a family just because he was a loser when he was younger and was obsessed with her after they broke up.
Sure he made a lot of money inventing a toy that children love, but that does't give him free reign to be a dick.
Now say this about Justin and a whole army comes after you
let's be real anon if she left him that easily then she was never his to begin with. She would've left for the next guy.
Millions of dollars have a way of changing womens opinions on men.
If the rich guy didn't show up then chances are they would have stayed together. Odd are there wasn't another random millionare knocking on her door.
People start relating Morty throwing up to the spaghetti and lose their appetite.
No, they lived through his life with him and gained an increased sense of empathy to him and perceived him as a real person with hopes, dreams, failures, successes, and you can't know someone that deeply and not love them a little bit, and that makes it basically impossible to enjoy eating them. Personally I wouldn't care because the body is just a body, I'd gladly eat the spaghetti, but I'm not normal.
Anon no one would give a single shit and only a stupid hippie would think otherwise (because vomiting was their reaction and they're projecting)
you seem like someone who has no taste
>the terrible manipulative montage and clumsy attempts at being "poignant"
Honestly this episode was alright up until that point. Not that the montage was terrible, I get it, but the answer it got was fucking stupid.
>oh boohoo I can't eat this guy he lived and loved and shit
That's no punchline, that's baby shit. No one would have given a fuck if it were as delicious as they say it is. The resolved the plot thanks to the magical power of empathy, it's ass.
Not like the canned people didn't have decent lives, too, we just didn't see them. They DID show one murderer though, woooow. I'm sure that for every sicko you had dozens of sweet grandmas, so give me a break.
>Not like the canned people didn't have decent lives, too, we just didn't see them
I think that was the point, that people would empathise with the suicidees too much to eat them if they knew their whole life story
But I said "we" as the viewers, anon. In-universe people did see them. Because all the cans came with a little prerecorded message. So all suicidees had the opportunity to talk about themselves before being eaten, therefore allowing people to empathise with them.
So the only thing that changed in the end is that Rick gave them a little home movie instead of an audio drama. Feels a bit weak.
yeah I agree that it felt like a cop-out
Man they had A LOT of confidence that shitty jam advert was gonna make me care about that retard.
In the end he was just jealous of Morty's entrepreneurial success, a business even more lucrative than his LEGO.
That "torso clones" bit reminded me that we do actually have lab-grown meat now.
A decade or so ago some researchers genetically engineered chickens with just a primitive brain stem and no cognitive function - nothing to be cruel to, just a growing body
People were mad for some reason and it didn't get further funding
So I guess that why now they are just growing straight up featureless chunks of meat from cells. Or something like that.
Growing tumor cell cultures in fetal bovine serum. It isn't meat.
If it looks like meat and tastes like meat, then who cares.
You're going to get a prion disease from consuming it.
And you get carcinogens from heavily processed meats like pepperoni.
Again, it's all the same shit pick your poison.
Well I'm sure they'd work all the kinks out before putting in the grocery stores and restaurants
>he trusts US regulatory apparatus
>after COVID
lmao
> US
I live in Europe actually
TORSO RIGHTS!
The one good joke
i thought it was funny when rick lost his memory for a minute and then just shrugged it off as an embarrassing goof up
That's gonna be a continuity point. We know there's a Morty's Mind-Blowers sequel this season and there was a bit in the trailer that was basically the same memory erasure bit from this episode but different.
That actually was the same bit in the trailer.
what evidence do you have for that?
the only memory related thing in the promo I see is what was already shown in yesterday's episode
You may be right, but that wasn't in the promo trailer.
Man, this whole episode could've just been a 1 minute bit in a Mindblowers episode
Nearly every non-lore episode of this show could be.
The problem with this episode is that it's what a 5 second throwaway joke on Season 1 would've been.
that's not a problem, it's an elaboration on what Rick's existence is like. The whole POINT is that the spaghetti is a stand-in for basically everything Rick. He doesn't tell the family certain things because they aren't ready to hear them. Knowing The Big Thing is a huge responsibility that Rick can bear because he's both psychologically and emotionally broken AND he's capable of basically anything, but someone like Beth or Morty can't handle knowing how the sausage (or spaghetti) is made. You're focusing on how the spaghetti would have been a throwaway gag the same way someone in a stereotypical sitcom plot might eavesdrop on their parents saying a specific thing and then lacking the context they said before and after. Yeah, of COURSE the spaghetti is a throwaway gag. That's the whole POINT. How many schloopidoops were in the first few seasons that have spaghetti-level implications he just doesn't tell the family? They did the same sort of thing with the immortality resort. Rick upended an entire culture!
I know it's just how the show is but it kind of irks me that it treats Morty as being in the wrong
Like with Beth and Summer the narrative twists itself to have him constantly beg for their forgiveness but with Morty it's the opposite somehow
I don't think the narrative puts morty objectively in the wrong all that often. Sure he fucks up, but they make sure to explicitly show that he's morally righteous and has a decent head on his shoulders. I can think of only a handful of episodes that paint him as objectively in the wrong, like the flu dance debacle where he just wanted to love potion Jessica. Most of the time he's earnest and sincere and I think the show acknowledges that he's generally an okay person, even if he's flawed.
tbh the flu dance was both of their faults
If the flu was the only thing that would have fucked up everything, why didn't rick just ask if jessica had the flu?
He didn't know it was flu season. The flu season awareness dance hadn't happened yet.
If you don't understand that 5 second throwaways and full episode premises are basically interchangeable on this show, I don't think you've been paying attention.
Thank you, that's an excellent way to put what I was trying to say in another response, very well said.
People would be cool with eating bugs if they weren't 80% chiten most the time. I'd love to try scorpion if there was a decent ratio of meat, like you'd get from a lobster. But the food grade ones are always little fuckers where you're expected to down the entire thinh.
Similarly I don't believe most people refuse to eat dog because of purely moral reasons. It just doesn't sound appealing. We don't eat wolves and it's hard to get most people to try fox.
People can cope with eating just about anything as long as it tastes good and isn't going to give you a weird disease. There's pretty much no circumstance where you could order veal without knowing what it is. It's still very popular.
I'd be ok with eating ze bugs if it wasn't so expensive, tbh.
I know "you vill eat ze bugs" is a meme but I would glady buy bug protein if it was cheap and actually available.
like you can get more animal protein raising crickets than you can raising cattle, in terms of the amount of feed you have to invest.
cricket flour can be used as a substitute for regular flour in most recipes, and it has a way higher protein content.
but economies of scale means it's usually more expensive, and you can't find it anywhere. so it's mostly hipster food
>in terms of the amount of feed you have to invest
not true for fish btw
wdym? is raising fish more harmful than raising cattle?
or do you mean catching wild fish? because due to overfishing we're running out of those pretty fast
nvm I double checked and my data was apparently wrong
thought fish like tilapia or catfish were better than bugs at converting feed into calories but crickets are 2 times as efficient apparently
I heard dubia roaches are even more efficient to raise but don't quote me on that
The bug thing is more of a Western stigma, you see Easterners eating bugs all the time and they do just fine. Veal is fucking delicious.
Plenty of cultures have bugs as part of their diet like Mexico and China.
>Similarly I don't believe most people refuse to eat dog because of purely moral reasons. It just doesn't sound appealing. We don't eat wolves and it's hard to get most people to try fox.
Actually, this is because carnivores tend to have higher concentrations of toxins and heavy metals due to being higher on the food chain. Depending on the specific levels, it can be a health hazard, but most often it just makes the meat taste bad.
There's also the issue of efficiency - to regularly raise carnivores for meat, you have to provide their prey as food, which means you have to raise and provide food for that many animals as well, so it would be prohibitively expensive in most cases.
This doesn't mean that human beings CAN'T eat carnivores, but all these factors contribute to that being less likely.
People eat dogs and cats regularly in the poorer parts of the east
Yeah, in China, where people resorted to cannibalism when there was no food available.
Might as well claim that everyone should drink piss because Indians make beverages out of cow piss.
It was shit and you have shit taste.
>Solid scifi premise
>Classic Rick and Morty (the characters) duo plot
>Main duo written well (philosophical opposites that are both right and wrong)
>Good escalation of stakes
>Coherent and reasonable moral stance on an interesting topic
The only thing that dragged the episode down was getting used to the new voice actors and the joke count (bit of a dour one). Best episode since Night Family.
>the joke count
You're right! I hadn't considered that, but now that I reflect on it there were a lot fewer jokes and more just general levity, they really toned down the humor I guess probably because of the sensitive subject matter, I mean they're willing to be dicks but suicide is still a pretty heavy issue, even for them. They're not south park (thank god).
The best part about the episode is that they remembered how to write Morty for once.
scifi premise
"A planet where humans turn into spaghetti when they kill themselves" is not a solid sci-fi premise. It's retarded.
Rick and Morty (the characters) duo plot
>>Main duo written well (philosophical opposites that are both right and wrong)
There was nothing "philosophical" about it and the chapter goes out of its way to portray Morty's actions as bad for no fucking reason.
>>Good escalation of stakes
So besides the retarded premise we are supposed to believe that in a few days they created an entire system to get people to kill themselves because... plot demands it.
Then they did the same with clones and it didn't work because... plot demands it.
Then there's a shitty montage because... plot demands it. The montage solves everything because... plot demands it.
There is no causality between the actions. Everything happens because the writers didn't find an organic excuse to make things happen.
and reasonable moral stance on an interesting topic
Lmao. You're underage, aren't you?
>Premise
You can make anything stupid if you frame it poorly. The interesting sci-fi premise is “What if there were sentient, human-like aliens that were delicious to humans when they commit suicide” which is a cool concept which brings about interesting moral questions (in a less loaded way then say, South Park’s Veal episode).
>Nuanced Philosophical conflict
>Coherent and moral stance on an interesting topic
There is a battle of multiple opposing viewpoints. Rick is the mindset of the butcher, the guy who really knows where he gets his food from, and is fine with it. The Smith family represent your average person, happy to eat when they don’t know where it comes from, and when told what it is, almost more mad to be thinking about it then they are that it’s happening. Morty represents the people who’s conscience get the better of them and try to actively pursue a more ethical way of eating. Now, Rick is partially wrong for hiding that what he’s feeding his family is ghastly. Morty was wrong for introducing the concept to the aliens when told they don’t know what it is, thereby upending how they think about themselves and creating an industry. The harder Morty tries to make it okay, the worse it gets, because grey areas are easier to push than black and white ones. Before too long, he’s brought a system of abominations dying by the thousands, just to try and make it okay.
(1/2)
In the end, the only way Rick can fix it is to cross over to his philosophical adversary, and present to everyone how fucked it is in detail, to the point that even the butcher himself can’t enjoy it any more. In turn, Morty incorporates the philosophy of his adversary, and determines that it’s easier if he just doesn’t know. Morty has changed, because he’s willing to eat what he knows is unethical as long as he doesn’t know too much, and Rick is able to admit the truth that it’s bad, just not how bad so it’s still enjoyable. They’ve reconciled in the middle. They even take time to show the more extreme version of this conflict, Space Vegans and Space Carnivore supremacists, and in the end they are both shown as ultimately niche and ineffective, because most people would rather be like the Smiths at the end of the episode (myself included).
>A couple of days
A minor concession to tell the story, granted. It would be pretty dull if it had to happen in real time (reasonable suspension of disbelief, you have to be extremely uncharitable for this to be what you get hung up on).
>They did the same with clones
And Morty wasn’t satisfied, which was the point. Rick had the agency, Morty was calling the shots.
>Shitty montage
The montage was sensible and organic to the story being told. The only way to make death more horrifying is to show the life behind it.
>Ur underage
Nope, just not a jaded fuck ready to hate something just because.
At the end of the day the episode worked as well as it did because it tackled one of the only subjects the average person is close to Rick’s philosophy on. It sucks, but, don’t think about it. Honestly a perfect fit for the show. This doesn’t even get into the fact that this is one of the most on point Rick and Morty characterizations in a long while. Solid solid episode.
(2/2)
Too long; didn't read
The writers made a lot of bad assumptions on every side of the argument which is why it comes across as equally condescending and nonsensical
>Morty's actions as bad for no fucking reason.
Morty's actions ARE bad. On the small scale, he thought telling a family that he ate their loved one would be comforting. On the large scale, he made it known to a planet that their suicidal people were a delicious resource; even if you don't take that to the level of a capitalist dystopia, you gave them information that goes unused at best and tempts people into cannibalism at worst. His actions had no possible benefit to anyone except himself. As always, Morty chased "the truth" to ease his own conscience at the expense of everyone around him.
It was retarded, but I don't think it rises nearly to the level of what he did in the snake planet episode. That one still bothers me.
Yeah, this episode wasn’t a case of who is right and wrong between Rick and Morty. Both were wrong. Rick was wrong for being psychotic enough to raid corpses for spaghetti in the first place and Morty was wrong for only caring about his own conscience instead of just choosing to accept or reject the spaghetti.
"The world government will force people to kill themselves and sell them for profit" is such a fucking retarded jump, a non-sequitur that it makes absolutely no sense. Especially considering that the very same government stopped their plan to use clones after a single terrorist incident and we're supposed to accept that there was nobody to protest or become violent the first time.
It's really fucking stupid.
>"The world government will force people to kill themselves and sell them for profit"
That... didn't happen, though? The world government followed incentives to make their planet less pleasant, so that people would choose to kill themselves.
Suicidal people don't "choose" to kill themselves in the same way that a drunk driver doesn't "choose" to go 150 mph into a tree. In order to make someone suicidal you must make their lives such a living hell that they lose both the will to live and the suffering overwrites their instinct of self-preservation, it's way more similar to a psychotic episode than to a "choice".
The plot did a gigantic fucking leap right there to move forward. It's really fucking stupid.
On one hand, I agree with you about the jump. On the other, the episode was already overpacked without putting in a gradual slide into dystopia as the spaghetti market heats up. A lot of this season has felt like they've been writing too much and then cutting the wrong parts.
this may be word for word what the committee workshopping the episode came up with
>Might as well claim that everyone should drink piss because Indians make beverages out of cow piss.
...it was a counterexample to the idea that people won't eat things they empathize with
i would be okay with eating bugs some of the time as an exotic delicacy if it wasn't FUCKING FORCED on me.
Unless you're a literal child being told to eat crabs at a restaurant or something, bug-eating being forced on you is a meme. You fell for a meme. You are dumb and should feel bad about it. Yes, there are people who want to force you to eat bugs. No, they do not have a chance in hell of actually succeeding in doing so. Feeling threatened by them is a meme. Stop falling for memes.
Why was there no b plot?
This whole season doesn't seem to have any B-plots, weirdly enough.
At least we got Morty as the main character of the episode this time.
too bad his new voice is grating as fuck.
honestly wouldn't mind if they wrote him out of the show entirely. I hate his new voice that much.
Your ears are weird, man. I got completely used to their voices by now.
You just want to hate them.
>t. rick and morty staff
I'm not a hater. I actually like Rick's new voice better than his old one. He sounds older, and somehow sicker of people's bullshit. It fits his character more.
But Morty sounds like shit. Like a bad impression. He sounds one-note now, with no range. Him yelling sounds almost exactly the same as him talking normally.
If this episode had a b plot it would just be some boring shit about Beth, Jerry and Summer finding ways to distract themselves from the fact they're cannibals.
Why are people ITT so confident that people would eat other people given the chance? Why is this normal to you?
We're confident that if they're already used to it, showing them some sappy montage won't change their minds.
if it was consequence free I'd try it. Like someone with a fetish for it who killed themselves specifically just to be eaten.
But if there was an industry built around it, the incentive structure to keep that industry alive would put me off of it. With that kind of system in place you can never know if your human meat is ethically sourced.
Also, it wasn't "other people", they were aliens.
intelligent aliens are still people
They looked like humans and were functionally the same as humans aside from the fact their innards turned into spaghetti when they suicided.
As a child I thought any time you ate an egg you were killing an unborn chicken, and if cared for any egg would hatch.
I still loved eating eggs.
As a child I entertained the possibility that eating watermelon seeds would make a watermelon grow inside me. I still ate watermelons.
Yes, I was pretty hardcode.
Same, but I don't think there was a moral element to that, it was just risk and reward.
I knew that was bullshit. But because of that I assumed that the idea that peach pits were poisonous was also bullshit. But apparently it's not. (Not like you'd eat one by accident though)
well it's only poisonous if you eat a shitload of them. not like you have a reason to eat the pit anyway
I know it's just shit writing but isn't it weird Rick was getting the spaghetti right in the middle of his lab? Like he wanted to get caught? And the whole adventure lead to Morty agreeing to be more obedient? If the episode was secretly trying to be like Vat of Acid I'll commend it.
the whole episode was rick teaching morty a lesson about butting out of his business
> about butting out of his business
Which is weird considering how previously they set up for Morty to be an equal to Rick. A partner, not just a sidekick.
the problem is that rick and morty is only selectively serialized. it's not gonna give a shit about plot or character development until the 1-2 episodes per season where it does. the other 80% is purely episodic even if it contradicts the character development
Right, this episode can literally be placed in the same season as the Vat of Acid and it wouldn't look out of place.
You only need three seeds for it to be lethal, I believe. Pretty sure you have to break them open, though.
It was poignant, it just wasn't original. It was effectively an illustrated therapy session for Morty to come to terms with and some degree attain a sense of tranquility with the ugly truth of what we take for granted that we eat to sustain ourselves. Like Rick says at the end of the episode "you can't side with death, even if it means eating" so we lie to ourselves and feed ourselves to keep going day for day.
Its just a shame the story has been told a hundred times before already.
yeah, I felt like I saw a plot done in this template so many times. It didn't feel particularly "rick and morty" to me, could have been an episode of the simpsons or any other adult sitcom cartoon if you tweaked it a bit
I don't know - I liked the concept and execution up until it got all up its own ass with the generic moody white girl whining over an acoustic guitar ending
>woman leaves her husband for some guy
you can tell this episode was written by a foid
I'll probably watch the life montage the next time I decide to have an acid trip.
Shame, there's much better cartoons to watch while acid tripping.
>Meat is Murder you gais
These fuckers played Ace of Spades in their trailer. You’re not hard.
I don't get it, is there some contradiction there?
I think the episode was confused on two ethical issues and it didn't solve the right one. It was not the aliens bad for finding spaghetti delicious, or for eating consenting people. The problem was with unrampant economic growth on the basis of selling spaghetti. The problem was literally the goverment Incentivising it's citizens to become spaghetti. It could've been solved by many things in the Rick and Morty universe. Getting Unity to take over the planet, giving the goverment another, more stable source of income, just replicating the spagetti forever. The science is there, but that was not the problem they focused on. Rather they took a look on "morality" of eating the spag based on the humanity of the source, which is not the right one in my opinion.
bc that would require the show have an anticapitalist stance for once and that is unimaginable
The show has been consistently anticapitalist for years. This is one of its few flaws. Die commie.
give me one example
End of the Story Train episode. That one inexplicable gag in Rickmurai Jack. Tales From The Citadel. The Gotron episode. The show's idolization of Unity. There's five. homosexual.
Critique of a systems flaws does not mean someone is anti-it. None of those examples show that a better system exists or is implemented and praized by the show. Unity is a concept because she devours personalities and does not equal an economic system.
>Critique of a systems flaws does not mean someone is anti-it.
They don't merely critique the system's flaws, they outright say that "capitalism" as a whole is bad. It comes across as completely insincere since the show is a committee driven mass market product from a giant corporation and it never depicts the issue with any depth or insight beyond regurgitating what the writers see in internet memes or other TV shows, but it's anti-capitalist messaging nonetheless.
This man is confusing satire for jokes.
agreed
Eh, I enjoyed it. If anything, the episode made me hungry. Give me a (You) if you'd eat the suicide spaghetti.
Make it Louisiana smoked pork ribs and you got a deal.
You don't need suicidal alieans then, you can just eat any human who died from something that left their ribs intact and not poisonous to you.
i'd even eat normal human meat if it was made well, anon.
I would not eat the suicide spaghetti and although it did not ruin the episode for me I find it difficult to see how it would be a financially viable product. Not, mind you, because I think other people would be so ethically principled, but because spaghetti is already pretty cheap and the corpses of the suicidal would surely be quite expensive.
For the sake of the plot suicideghetti is infinitely more delicious than real spaghetti.
Well, it seemed to be really fucking good spaghetti, like the platonic ideal of a bolognese. Also the episode is a metaphor for the meat industry and/or the potential monetization of assisted dying, either case having a massively increasing demand due to the profit motive illustrated by the alien president.
Canada is done for.
Can't tell if the aliens from Spaghetti World just look like regular humans out of laziness by the art department or to reinforce the message
It's pretty clearly a deliberate choice; when the art department is getting lazy, they just shit out a boring default-looking alien design, like the Unity people, or the writer in the Story Lord sequel.
Both
they have higher noses than regular humans
>turn her into a cartoon character
>she still fucks up tremendously
Amazing.
I honestly don't know who that is.
Current vice president of the United States.
The leader of Spaghetti Planet
would
onions
I wonder how many vegans will use this episode to showcase how heckin ebil the meat industry is despite Rick outright spelling out the moral at the end.
If you think Rick's stance is the intended takeaway you have no media literacy
Also what Rick said was retarded
>muh media literacy
You are a literal drooling retard.
The whole point is that he technically isn't wrong, but he still doesn't have the stomach to accept that.
"media literacy" is a term used exclusively by midwits
Every time Rick and Morty spoonfeeds the audience there's always someone who tries to pretend that it wasn't meant to be taken seriously.
Let me guess, one of the writers read The Jungle and decided they needed to tell the world that the meat packing industry is pretty gross overall?
Factory farming is objectively disgusting even as someone who likes eating meat. It's still a modern issue, see the rise of veganism in the West and people synthesizing lab grown meat.
>read
You give them too much credit, anon.
Any links or sites to stream it?
The usual ones are fucked.
kiss is working fine rn
No it doesn't: it has a 1 minute scene of the episode, I think and that's it.
Could a human breed with a spaghetti creature?
Given the anatomy we saw in the morgue scene, it's a hard maybe.
No mega link ?
I would devour that spaghetti so guiltlessly. Even if I was forced to relive an entire guy's life Roy-style, I would still devour his intestines if they were tasty enough.
test
>smiled: 8 times
>laugh: 0 time
>was emotional: 1 time (the Bridge builder segment)
All along the episode I was like "why not cancel their memories like that one episodes with memories ?" but yeah I guess character growth I guess Morty is getting older and moore mature so Rick is okay with him being confronted to harsher reality.
Once the spaghetti reveal I though it would go wrong and showing the wrongdoing ways a system can spawn with that. The plot was predictable in this sense, mainly once Morty is invited by the prez of this planet.
Once deviances are shown it was weird. Is the message being pro-suicide/right-to-die ?
Is it society can drive people to commit sudoku for the beneficits of the system ?
A shame they didn't joked about samurais doing seppuku with spaghetti tho.
The bridge builder segment was nice. Liked the genuine sincere aspect of someone living a good life.
I think the solution given by the episode was a tad unrealistic. I mean you can have psychopaths not being sensible to the message, and aliens still seeing spaghetti humans only as cattle and not caring about that.
I cringed with Rick giving the nihilistic answer but hey that's a core aspect of his character after all.
In the last part with the new food, I wished the post-credit was Rick sweating blood to make a perfect plate for his family while hiding it by pudic modesty.
Post-credit scene made me smile a bit tho
Anyway an ok episode, confirming the serie is becoming more and more of a zombie show. I'm still hopeful the serie is going to get better at some point.
Any thought about what I said ? Did a miss a point ?
Thanks for reading the blogpost
>A shame they didn't joked about samurais doing seppuku with spaghetti tho.
A missed opportunity, to be sure.
Does beth get food poisoning in this episode?
No, but Summer does, which causes her bladder to swell and she has to spend the entire episode peeing in the ocean.
is this the most controversial rick and morty episode for Cinemaphile?
or will we forget all of this
Probably since it talked about veganism and everyone loses their shit when that subject comes up.
Most controversial, so far. First 3 were mid to average, but this one has people talking about the themes outside of "Where's Morty?" and DrWong/President shipping.
>controversial
This is a storm in a teacup. Get your shit together, anon.
4 bump limit threads is more than a teacup
That's normal for a new RAM episode.
>controversial
If you take it all literally, it's a bunch of made-up controversies stitched together. Which is why it's funny.
It you take it allegorically, then I dunno. I don't think it really says much one way or the other about euthanasia. It does says 'gib more money to mental health care' but that is such a non-stance to take.
This episode made me think about the fact free monkeys don't fap in the wild while captured monkeys are addicted to it.
Also why not produce clones, make them instant grow, put them in a depressing simulator like in the one simulating life in Blips and Chitz, and give them a push-button-you-die ?
Guess Rick was following Morty's ideas and the kid doesn't have enough creativity to figure it out like this.
I feel the boundaries of the show are too large now and if you're imaginative enough the suscenption of credulity doesn't work anymore.
I'm not sure how you would even set this up to experiment on it, but do free monkeys fap in the wild if they're somehow stranded away from other monkeys?
I thought it was pretty funny
Would you eat her spaghetti?
needs salt.
Just wanted to let everyone know that the number they float in front of your face when you watch anything regarding suicide just sends cops to your fucking house. You'll be arrested and entered permanently into the system.
Popplers was both infinitely funnier and more poignant than this
What do you think of my Rick's famous spaghetti!
gross
I couldn't get a human so I used cat instead
I'd 100% eat the spaghetti while both knowing where it came from and after viewing that last homosexual's life story. No, I'm not Italian in any way (afaik)
the riled up Roiland fags, combined with cancel culture gamergate fags, and tortanic fags are really jumping in hard on this season review bombing everything.
kinda wild its just an average post season 2 R&M season.
>review bombing everything
specifically?
>average
It seems better than average, I'd say, and on an upward trajectory at the moment, too. Would not be surprised if it wound up being the best season since season 2, at least.
I thought the episode was overall fine, some fun parts and some shit parts but good lord was the voice acting atrocious. Usually it's pretty decent but they sounded nothing like they were supposed to more than once
My exact thoughts
The show fell off after Season 2 when it became mainstream and the writing got “”““deep””””
rick and morty was born a zombie.
garbage show for garbage "people"
this is the worst one yet
2 > this episode > 3 >>>> 1
This season premeire was literally mid season 4-5 drivel that wasted several possibly interesting plot points for the sake of getting Rick's "crew" back together.
Wow the correct opinion I’m not crazy, thank you. Only thing I’d add is aside from S7E1 this season is looking like an upswing for the show overall. If the season can keep it up, especially if the Prime episode and finale land we’re looking at the best Season since 2.
agreed on the ranking. episode 2 was the best by far, 4 was okay, 3 was okayish and 1 was really bad
it was alright, a lot better than last week's episode. Montage was cute but they probably could've wrapped the plot up better.
Nice to finally have Morty be part of Rick and Morty again
I thought Justin Roiland was the man with the retarded edgy ideas, I guess he was the "funny" one. All of this is Incest Baby bad.
These were written while he still worked on the show.
Harmon is the brooding and serious one and Roiland is the wacky haha funny guy.
The hatebase for this show is honestly fucking obnoxious.
>ANOTHER episode pointing out Thursday
When?
After watching all 4 current eps of the season, it's okay. The only one that's legitimately bad is 1. Easily one of the worst written episodes of this show, on par with the sperm episode. And what do you know, it's written by the same guy! Why the FUCK do they keep him around?
I actually consider it THE worst. The sperm episode at least had shock appeal. S7E1 is legitimately a bottom tier family guy episode without cutaway gags. The first episode I think is genuinely beneath modern Rick and Morty. Thankfully the season hasn’t stooped that low again.
7x1 would have worked so much better if it hadn't been for the recasting. If it had Roiland in it, the vibe would have been entirely different. It would have come across as a weird fun new plot to tell the audience that they haven't run out of ideas, and if you didn't like it, hey, the show isn't fundamentally changing it's just a fun new episode premise to kick off the new season.
WITH the recasting, it feels more like "here's your new dad, your old dad is dead, oh and also we're moving to oklahoma, but don't worry, everything is fine" like of course it's going to come across as way worse when you're upending the entire tone right when everyone was afraid the show would be dead. It's just an unfortunate circumstance. That and I don't think the episode was all that good to begin with, but it was like a 4/10 that got situationally downgraded to a 1/10.
No, the problem was 100% with the writing. Even at its worst R&M is usually much better than this. It legitimately felt like one of those low-brow sitcom that get cancelled after a single season that wearing an R&M skin. The best example is the post-credits gag, where the concept for the joke was fine, but the execution failed on every every level. The character literally explains the joke after it happened, despite the joke already being stretched agonizingly slow. The writer had zero comedic talent.
Yeah, alright, I think that's a fair alternative perspective on it, I would have to go back through with a fine tooth comb to come up with counter examples, and I don't really want to, so that kind of is a major point in your position's favor, isn't it?
eh, the recast just made people much more aware of how shitty and boring it was, along with the fact that it was the first episode in so long. it would still be a bad episode with the old voices
rick and morty had equally bad if not worse episodes before and they didn't get review bombed as hard
Rick and Morty has never had a worse episode. The worst Rick and Morty had up till that point was some cringe pretentious moments like “worse, you’re smart” or shitpost ideas trying to emulate Roiland’s sense of humor poorly like Sperm. This episode is in its own tier of bad.
Come on, I think that's a tad harsh, I enjoyed watching the episode, it was definitely in the bottom tier of episodes, and definitely shouldnt have been the premier episode of the season, but I actually think it was BETTER than the sperm episode. Granted that's not really saying a whole hell of a lot, it's all pretty shit, but I think you might be externally angry about the recasting and might be projecting some of that onto the episode itself, it's just a shitty fast food burger, but you're calling it dog shit in a paper bun, and that's just not true, I'd sit back and watch the episode again. I'd just rather watch pretty much any other episode instead.
I genuinely am much more lenient on the recasting than most and that’s not my problem with the episode. Sperm feels like bad Rick and Morty. Party with Hugh Jackman isn’t even Rick and Morty.
I really enjoyed seeing Mr. P have his struggles with his ex, and seeing him be belligerent about the intervention. The fight scene with the predator was pointless and uninteresting, but I did like seeing more of Gene. It's nice to see more regular human beings interacting with Rick, since we're so familiar with the family dynamic by now and most other human interactions he has are unimportant.
The episode barely gave time to any of the characters. The two main characters of the episode are Mr. PB and Hugh Jackman, with Rick in a secondary role. It was supposed to be a boy’s night episode and the fun was snatched out of the room by the stupid lie conflict and the guest star hogging up the screen time. Mr. PB’s lesson wasn’t interesting. Gene is a nothing character in the episode (as well as Squanchy, Gearhead and Bird Person). The episode was so bad the best gag in it is haha gene drink from vagina.
oh come on, the sperm episode and anime episode were at least equally bad. the sperm one was so cringy I couldn't even watch it all the way to the end, none of the jokes hit, the whole promise was tired shock humor, it even had a horribly stupid feminist sub-plot for no reason, not to mention the fetish insertion. it was a perfect storm of garbage
s7e1 was bad, but relatively watchable in comparison. it felt phoned-in and generic and the celebrity cameo sucked, but at least it didn't make me actively embarassed for the creators
Shit Rick and Morty is still better than a Brickleberry script.
S7E1 is such a generic and shitty episode that you could just swap out the names and it would fit in any other bargain bin adult cartoon.
Sperm was the worst episode up until this point, but at least it was an interesting failure.
>rick and morty had equally bad if not worse episodes before
No it didn't. The only upside of 7-1 was continuity fanservice. Once that wears off and you get to the celerity cameo, it's unbearable.
Fuck no, the episode was written terribly, Roiland couldn’t have saved it. Bad conflict, weak moral, weak characterization, weak jokes, and worst of all an obtrusive guest star who only existed for lame shitty jokes and brought nothing. Shockingly shockingly bad.
Personally I think "shockingly bad" is kind of an unreasonable overstatement, but I find it hard to argue against your core position that it was a shit episode, so I'm just going to have to concede and shake hands on that one
I dunno why, but the episode gave me some very eastern influenced vibes, especially during the first visit to the planet, vaguely dowman sayman-ish, I think it was the pace.
Rick showing up with the can of spaghetti too, just felt uncanilly anime.
The writer is the biggest animefag on the show.
Right now, I think Krapopolis is their better show.
The episode was still my fgavorite of the season. It had the bless of not having recurring characters in it.
I don't know how to describe it but every episode you always get some pseudo intellectuals on here trying to prove how much smarter they are than this show (which isn't even that much of an accomplishment). I get not liking the episodes but it feels like some of you have something to prove in terms of your low self-esteem
>inb4 someone comments don't think just consoom
I kinda feel the opposite. This past season has felt like retard city in terms of criticism. Part of me wonders if Roiland’s ousting brought out the idiots.
>if Roiland’s ousting brought out the idiots.
the Roiland thing is funny because before the allegations general consensus around Roiland was that he was a one trick pony and he needs to quit or get kicked out alongside Harmon but because he upset the right people now all of a sudden he's the heart of the show and he was always great and funny. its similar to that girl from star wars where people hated her for being in mandolorian and made constant attack videos but as soon as she pisses off trannies she's all of a sudden good again.
Just watched the episode, it was good/borderline great, you’re all huge homosexuals.
Finally watched the episode. It a stereotypical episode, can see why people didn't love it but also don't understand why people would hate it either. Honestly what confused me the most is that I thought Morty became a vegan or some shit because of the VR game. Did they just straight up forgot that? Even if he thought he was eating vegan meat or something once it got into the plot of the show you would think he be extremely against that just outright.
That aside my only real complaint is that the episode is just a copy of an existing episode for the ending but done slightly differently. Sad music not really going to make me think differently when I am getting deja vu that I already seen this shit before.
it was okay, but nothing special. pretty formulaic plot and the montage as a solution was a bit of a stretch, especially since rick immediately dismisses it. are we to believe none of the other aliens are cynical nihilists, especially when they have a profit incentive?
at least the message didn't come off as too preachy because of rick's dismissal
this might be the second best episode of the season so far, but far below episode 2
As expected, another le edgy episode. Why do you people still watch this crap?
you need to find a healthier source of attention than making strangers mad on the internet for no reason
Sorry champ, Rick & Morty says all alternatives are always worse, and that you are stupid for even considering them.
Seriously though, what a weird defense of the show.
this is like watching middle schoolers get into a heated debate on whether threesomes are gay or not
"Like"?
Whats the ultimate veredict then, Mister gown-up?
All sexual interactions can be defined by the following flowchart:
-If more than one male is involved, it's gay.
-If a single male and no females are involved, it's masturbation.
-Otherwise it's straight.
>Eminem releases a Spaghetti sauce called Mom's Spaghetti
>Rick and Morty make an episode about Spaghetti
It's Spaghetti all the way down
I've had horse. Raw minced horse with garlic is great. People only bitch and moan because you're eating a horse, for some reason, but cows are a-ok.