>1 coin for a drink
>1 coin for a hotel night stay
>1 coin for removal of a dead body
>1 coin for a gun
Why the frick does the assassin economy make no sense?
>1 coin for a drink. >1 coin for a hotel night stay. >1 coin for removal of a dead body. >1 coin for a gun
only seen the first one, always figured it was 1 coin for 1 favor
never really cared to explore it further
It was, and it works when it's just a style piece because no one had ever thought about 22 more movies
The other movies had some neat action scenes but the story and characters were never as good as the first one. Besides, the first movie works as a self-contained story.
They should have never made sequels. The more they show John doing shit the less his spooky reputation has merit. It's like if they made a prequel movie about what the impossible task was, and completely destroys the mystique of it in the process.
You'll be glad to know they're planning on doing exactly that as a streaming series!
>The more they show John doing shit the less his spooky reputation has merit.
John goes around killing professional killers and criminals while being on his own against impossible odds and survives it. That's the source of his reputation. Doing and surviving things you wouldn't think were possible. That's why he's a boogieman. His legend is from survival and getting it done no matter who he goes after, no matter how much the odds are stacked against him.
>the first movie works as a self-contained story.
But he never gets his car back.
Still kino. JW 2 & 3 (and on) are souless garbage for consoomer redditors.
3 is the best you pleb. Nonstop action with great stunts and tiger chen. Actually feels like a Hong Kong action movie.
1 > 3 >>>>>> 2
2 was terrible
>2 was terrible
That we can agree dogshit.
Based.
I repel the frachise too. There's only the first John Wick for me.
>I'm an assassin who prided himself on being quiet, efficient and unassuming
>let me get my giant bag of sheckles to haul around on my assassination missions
I thought the same thing when I watched it. He has to give a coin just to get into that gay nightclub. Yet having a dead body removed from your home, including cleanup, costs a single coin, too? Makes zero fricking sense.
The night club was for info
The coins are obviously not currency but favors or used for proof of being in that line of work
Real money is still obviously used as the hits were paid out in cash
He was just let into the nightclub by the bouncer, though. He put it through the little slot in the door. The bouncer didn't give him any info. It was just for entry.
The nightclub is a secure meeting place on neutral ground. The info comes from the patrons and clientele.
that bouncer gets to have a full murder cover-up for every guy he lets in
bouncer is probably a serial killer
>The coins are obviously not currency but favors
thats what currency is lol
I think he means it's like a binary currency system. Giving someone a coin for something is a relatively large payment. The fact that he uses them to pay for drinks is stupid but I guess if the usual rate is one coin for an entire night of drinking top shelf shit maybe it works for a bounty hunter of John's skill?
maybe its like 100 year old whiskey
he pays the coin to drink a safe drink. that is the price for safety. you know, as a favour to not get poisoned.
>thats what currency is lol
currency is a long stretch, the common use is that a certian object has a certian value, other object can have a different values.
butn in John wick seems its more like a physical manifestation of a favor, and thats why everything costs a single coin, i cant remember him giving 2 coins or more for anything.
this may be right
they use the currency to buy weapons and shit though
>The coins are obviously not currency but favors or used for proof of being in that line of work
It's this. The coins are just used as a way of proving that a transaction occurred in the form of some kind of service, but aren't representative of the value of the service.
>obviously not currency but favors
I thought it was something like that. Assassins deal in large sums of money, so they simplified it with a coin/favor system. Instead of operating in exact values, like $8 for a drink, $1000 for dead body clean up, they just operate on a favor for favor system. In a way it's a show of power. An assassin can kill you in exchange for a coin, they can also use that coin to buy a $8 drink. Basically your life is worth as much to them as a drink at a bar. Alternately, it can be a proof of competency/loyalty. You cold charge an assassin $1000 for your dead body clean up service, but when they show you the coin, it's like "you know what, you've been with our secret society for a log time, I'll offer you this service for basically nothing." I don't think there's any inconsistencies with the value of the coins, they're just operating on a level we can't comprehend. We can't imagine having a coin that would buy you a stay at a hotel and then using it to buy a drink instead, but to assassin's that's just how they value things.
feels like with the assassin hotel you should pay the 1 coin for your stay which would be all-inclusive with comped drinks, food, etc. paying 1 coin for a whole room and then 1 coin for a drink is nuts, at that point just go to a regular bar and pay regular money
>1 coin added to the bill for anything in the minibar
fricking ripoff
>1 coin for a drink
proof it was just for 1 drink?
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He buys John a drink for 1 coin
could this not be 1 coin = something like a tab?
sure he only got 1 drink but we dont see him order 2 drinks back to back and pay 1 coin for each drink right?
we would actually have to see him order multiple drinks and see how many coins he gave.
if he gives 1 coin and gets multiple drinks i would say it is safe to assume that 1 coin for the bartender = many drinks.
these movies are made by former stunt guys. stop thinking about things.
I always figured John just tipped generously which is part of the reason people liked him
>that'll be 1 coin, plus 1 coin tip
He dropped 1 coin tips like spaghetti
So you like go for a 5$ drink and tipped 800$?
t. israelite
Because it was a really good drink.
In the director's cut the keen eyed observer will notice 3 prostitutes performing oral favours on the main character while said character sips on his beverage.
You just put a dollar into the coin machine at the hotel and you get 4 coins I do it all the time.
i have some old chuck e cheese coins, could I use those
>guy kills your dog
>holocaust six million slavs
>ana de armas mounts you in your daughter's underwear
>whine impotently
what's wrong with this guy
I preferred when this was just a movie about some dude killing people and not the ultra assassin cinematic universe quasi capeshit
>cinematic universe
it's only a cinematic universe if they start bringing in shit like Agent 47
The coins aren't what's valuable but the assassins. The more valuable you are the more you'll have access to the amenities aka more coins. Assassins with less coins have to pick and choose what they use their coins on. People like john wick don't.
Is it just me or does $7 million for killing John Wick sound low? He's supposed to be the best of the best right? I mean there are celebrities worth more than 7 mil
That would basically be 7 mil in cash. Peoples net worth is always tied up in assets, investments, or just plain inflated. So lump payments are more valuable in that line of work where you wouldn't want anything to be traced.
I get that but it still feels low. Like in Terminal list a guy was paid $20 mil to betray his friends.
Americans are total b***hes that would sell their wife, ass and soul for way less shekels.
>Americans are total b***hes that would sell their wife, ass and soul for way less shekels.
This, 7 mil of straight cash liquid currency is a frickton and you will have banks offering you an extra million if you store all that cash with them
But you get the repetition of killing John Wick.
>Is it just me or does $7 million for killing John Wick sound low?
Santino was playing the long game. He knew John would come after him, and he also knew if he lowballed the bounty, only low-tier types would go after John in the open for that little. But every attempt is still a chance for John to get injured, give up, or on the off chance, even killed.
So worst case scenario John is softened up by the time he gets to Santino , and his guards can finish him up.
And if that doesn't work, Santino planned to hide in the Continental. He never thought John would murder him in the hotel and get excommunicated.
I think the "1 coin for a drink" is basically a tip. A joke.
gee like there can't be different coins with different denominations?
we saw John's coins, they're all the same
Shut the frick up leaf
Your coins look pretty cool, leaf.
They don't have abos on them though
damn i've never had an up close look at it before. they didn't even try to make him look human
>human
Have you ever met an abo?
only half/quarter breeds
then you've either met well adjusted westerners or alcohol abusers, not aboriginals.
>best friends with a half breed and met his parents, the mother a white woman and the dad literally looked like the dude on the $2 coin but with a goonbag in his hand and a ciggy in his mouth.
yeh im sure you know more about who i met than i do.
sounds like he's torn between two radically different cultures and will struggle for the rest of his well lived, happy life
>two radically different cultures
lmao you pretty much just admitted that ciggies and goon is aboriginal culture
your point?
actually true.
grew up with his mum after his dad left(shocker) and was doing great until he turned 16 and got in contact with his druggie dad and then dropped out of school to go live with his dad and do drugs all day.
dont be rude whitefella they just cheeky
>they didn't even try to make him look human
Why would they? All the coins have the queen on one side and an animal on the reverse.
>5 round coins
>1 angular coin
Who the frick came up with this shit?
>its cuz everyones super rich u guys.
Yeah, it's pretty dumb.
I think the coins are for status more than anything. Assassins trade them with each other, and get some for doing jobs. They give them back for services rendered (staying at the continental, using it's 'clean up crew' for bodies, food and drink, etc) which simulates an economy. The Continental being neutral/sacred ground is really the key point of the coins. The more jobs you do, the more coins you get, the more likely you'll need to stay at the continental to avoid retaliation from your work.
All the instances of coins being given for food/drink/entry to clubs/etc likely are sent back to the Continental, to be given back to assassins for completing jobs.
Assassins giving a coin to each other for favors is like saying "Here's an extra day of peace if you do this for me" which, is likely worth a lot more to them than anything.
To elaborate a little further, I think the coins are the way the Continental keeps its members in line. You don't work, you don't have coins, you can't stay in the Continental, you're now fair game to be killed for whatever reason. I imagine for most assassins they're never working with more than a handful of coins at a time. We only ever see the high level ones (Like how John and Viggo have entire boxes of them) working. Someone just starting would probably need to do a few jobs for regular money before they even got a coin, and it likely would come from someone like John or Viggo who toss them around like candy.
But in the end, you will eventually need more of them and there's only a few ways to get them.
So how does John wick hoarding a massive box of them effect the economy? Where a lot of low level assassins fricked because a large chunk of the coin pool left circulation all of a sudden? Did they mint more to replace them and now they’re gonna be over saturated with John back throwing them around left and right?
The assassin central bank exacerbated the murder recession by refusing to mint more coins leading to a deflationary spiral
I like how in the latest movie, 95% of everyone in society is an assassin. All just pretending to be a normal functioning populace living fake lives, just waiting for contracts to kill each other. Even the bums are assassins. And school bus drivers and little kids too.
It really makes you wonder who the frick is actually left to assassinate apart from John Wick. Maybe that's why they're all so gung-ho, they've all collectively been blue-balled from assassinating for the last 20 years since everyone of note in the world is in this secret society or a fellow assassin.
what happened to the real homeless people? Did they all get assassinated and the assassins take their place?
Which is worse? John Wick 3 or Hotel Artemis?
I also wonder why this dude is wearing a German Anti Partisan Badge from WWII?
Is he a collector?
What was the tax policy of the assassins?
>1 coin for a drink
it was for the underage prostitute that will be sent to his room, but the scene was cut from the released version.
What are some other dogshit flicks you got baited into watching?
Marfa Girl 2
Some anon recommended some movies from Larry Clark many moons ago. Marfa Girl was among those recommendations. I kind of enjoyed it but it was nothing to write home about. Checked out the sequel and it was a pile of dog shit
cosmopolis
Shilled by Cinemaphile?
Taxi Driver & Eraserhead
That dracula untold one. Slight break from 'traditional'/modern dracula origins, started okay (first few minutes with the cave -> banquet), then got really dumb. That one monk is a hardcore vamp lore guy that he notices his regional ruler is a vamp on day one. Even manages to sequel bait.
Also want to tell that Midnight Mess was like best vampire shit i saw in years.
Untold gayet was moronly stupid. It was made to be stylish like 300 but it sucks ass.
Specially liked that they start it all with how MC killed armies solo(at least they told it like that) and then some random morons provoke him for no reason like he is some unknown beggar.
Jay and Silent Bob Do DeGrassi
It is not even a J&SB comedy but the actors in clothing during a DeGrassi episode
The funny part is that they could just use paper money, which is much easier to launder than gold coins and equally untraceable.
you can't tell if someone is in the assassin club with just paper money
A favor is a favor.
Don't ask for stupid shit if you don't think it makes you even Steven, or you just don't care, and you won't have any regrets.
Seems like an okay way for lone wolves to cooperate without any personal bullshit or being strangers getting in the way too much. You just feel like the favor is worth spending the coin and it is, and the person getting the coin knows damn well it's worth having because they're cleaning a body, providing amnesty, intel, whatever and know the coin is worth at least that to many others.
Should John feel bad paying too much for a drink when he's probably got 100s of favors he had saved that he didn't realize he'd never use because he never thought he'd retire, and he's in a situation where he either thinks he won't live long or will be back to retirement soon anyway. Doesn't exactly make it a flawed system or devalue other people's coins just because the baddest motherfricker around has coins he could burn the way a billionaire tipping waitresses millions of dollars in a small town could make it so there's nobody left to serve drinks. Coin for a drink just makes John a generous lad in a system that can handle it. It's not like the coins aren't without restriction. If a dude offers a coin to suck his balls, or tries to hit you up for the 10th time that week you can say no.
didn't read lol
You miss out on kino kino analysis then. Blocked.
Why the frick would it be for a favor? After he pays to remove a dead body with a coin he then owes that guy a favor? That's moronic, after killing someone you need to do a favor to the guy who cleaned up the body? That would be never ending favors
I think the clean up crew is a service of the Continental, ie not a favor. They are part of the hotel. It's how coins given out to assassins for other shit get back to the hotel to keep the psuedo-economy going.
the homeless people use coins too and they're not part of the hotel, they're their own thing with Morpheus
>John Wick
>A retired assassin gets revenge on the Russian Mob, a shadowy underworld of criminals and assassins is shown and hinted at
>John Wick 2+
>Lets laser focus in on this crazy assassin world! There's different wacky groups of assassins! Hobo assassins! Busker assassins! clown assassins! The place where assassins get their orders is full of rockerbilly chicks in a weird old uniforms for no reason that use old timey technology, also for no reason!, there's assassin cults, a literal god of assassins, who we meet! It's all so quirky and random!
the sequels were a mistake.
>old timey technology, also for no reason
you can't track old timey tech, Taliban did the same thing and just hand wrote messages and delivered shit by hand.
>the sequels were a mistake.
just like the matrix
i think Keanu Reeves is cursed
I actually liked reloaded and the last battle in 3
>I actually liked reloaded
mods?
I thought the old timey tech was neat and showing that they've been around a long time and slow to update if there's no reason. Better than having them all using super advanced secret holgram tech or some other generic cliche
The antiquated technology added charm. Would you rather it be a greenscreen technology shitfest like a marvel movie?
One thing all the JW movies managed to do was make the universe they exist in consistently bizarre and they get points for that.
The magic bullet proof suit liner on the other hand....
It's like The Warriors but overstaying it's welcome.
The way I feel about these films is that the first feels like a 90's indie comic, while the sequels feel like Hollywood comic adaptions. Does that make sense?
it's stylish and mysterious in the first movie, but once they elaborate on it and explains more and more it becomes demystified and falls apart. It becomes almost parody in the third movie
First movie was good, the rest not needed. Doggo dies, gorillion bandits dies, Yaga finds new doggo, wholesome and breathtaking end, big chungus approved.
It was a one off movie made by stuntmen, the mistake was trying to franchise it. Nothing makes sense.
There was an interview with the directors I remember at some point where they mentioned this, essentially saying that Common paying 1 coin for 1 drink was a giant tip and a huge flex. They may have been joking.
Maybe you should saw a coin in 4 pieces for a more comfy tipping
Maybe assassins are just really bad with money? I remember reading something from hotel staff about how people born into super rich families have no idea how to gauge the value of money/services. Like some will under tip and only leave $2, others will over tip and leave $200. It has nothing to do with being stingy or generous, they're just so rich that they can't comprehend how normal people actually see money. To them $2 and $200 are basically the same thing.
ive found the movies work a lot better when you dont take them too seriously
the coins are the price of a human life. obviously they are worth more than the things he trades them for. the extra value left over is just like tipping a waitress
>super famous assassin-man that everyone and their grandma knows about
>everyone except the son of his close ex-business partner
It's pretty obvious this series was written by stuntmen.
>everyone except the son of his close ex-business partner
they came into the business after john wick left
and i would assume once a member this would asks to leave that means no one talks about them no one just casually brings them up like "hey new son there was this crazy hitman named john wick and he is literally the best of the best of the best, anyway he quit"
also within like 5 seconds of meeting the son you know this guy doesnt give a frick about anyone or know anything and just lives off his dads money and drinks and fricks and parties and probably doesnt even know the full extent of the world his father is in.
so it actually does make sense that there are people that dont know about john wick. at the time of the movie.
What was Continental tax policy?