pretty fricking boring tbh show is so white my head got dizzy
>Violating another nation's airspace >calling themselves Masters of the Air
is there going to be a german POV that doesn't make them look like monsters? Like imagine seeing your family die in an allied bombing because you failed to shoot down enough b17s
>start war >lead indiscriminate bombing campaigns >forever doom Europe to mediocrity
wtf why doesn't the Allied countries make movies that paint german as le good guys 🙁
They don't give a german POV at all. They don't paint them as monsters either. They are just the enemy. Stop projecting your moronic ideas into everything.
we got 5 episodes left, they'll do the obligatory tearjerker episode about Dresden
they baited it with the collapsed building in the latest one, it's bound to come
Germans should have been wiped off the earth. They are animals that set humanity back 1000 years after they raped and pillaged the Roman Empire. Then they tried to do it again with 20th century Europe. They will try again once the right takes back the reigns of the government within the next 50 years.
DNEG, did the sfx, and they are a reputable company. They did BR2049, Tenet, Dune, and a bunch of other very nice looking films. Unfortunately they also just recently opened up a Mumbai office, and my guess is that is where lower priority projects are going to get sent. We are going to be seeing more and more of this type of garbage sfx coming from very decent companies.
>it's blacks fault, not the ruthless, never ending cost cutting from billionaires and the lack of incentive regular workers have to bother doing anything but the bare minimum
DEI has become the new cope for boomers to explain why everything's going to shit.
As though it was all nice and sparkly when WASPs ran everything. It's an obvious diversion from their own responsibility for the decades long downfall.
I'm going to be honest with you there was something building up and swelling inside me the whole day today and sure enough it was a really bombastic fart and for what seemed like an eternity I was truly the master of the air, at least locally.
This board is fricking jaded. I've loved every episode so far, because I'm not scrubbing through every frame of CGI trying to figure out why I should stop watching it.
I know people meme about >muh post-election era of Cinemaphile but unironically sometime around 2016-2018 this site became a bastion for hatred and vitriol as opposed to a home for outcasts like it used to be... maybe the two things are just synonymous now but it's pretty jarring noticing the difference. This place used to be primarily a source of humour for everyone where hatred was allowed/tolerated/encouraged depending on what you were talking about and how funny your response was... now it is legitimately a cesspool of "normies" just venting their shit opinions and inflaming other anons into responding with equal vitriol. Lame.
And to any newbies that come at me, I've been here fore like 15 years. Die.
/misc/ should be deleted, and racism should be bannable. just word filter and auto ban morons who trip it too much. obviously never happening because those are the morons that browse the site without adblock and generate money for hiro and buy the most passes.
tired of newbie tards that treat the site like edgy version of twitter where you're encouraged to not put any effort into your input and try to come up with a quippy <10 word remark for likes. clearly it's just a moderation issue, when Cinemaphile can stay mostly clean and on topic despite being semi active.
Only newbies would argue with you. This place is just less censored reddit now.
And call me a polchud, but even in 2015/16, there were legit analysts, data crunchers, people posting complicated voter data and poll projections, etc. It was a level of intelligence that is wholly lacking now, the difference is complete.
And it's probably not a coincidence that there's a lot more support for state dept positions now, nafo and the like. The takeover was swift and effective.
The only good part about this show is the air battles.
Fortunately they seem to be aware of this and there's at least some action sequences every episode so far.
Everything else seems pretty dull. Its almost good, maybe if they had made it a movie instead of a show it would've really shined and made it like Fury except in an airplane.
I frankly don't understand, with the already restricted episodes and the lack of opportunities for real "bonding time" with the cast, why they didn't consolidate everything into a big episode that showcased an entire mission from start to end in near real time. Imagine the Regensberg mission portrayed over 90mins with no cutaways, no music, filmed in cinema verite style, just the constant enduring terror that the real bomber crews faced.
I've watched the 3rd episode a couple times now and while I appreciate any portrayal of the bomber war, quite frankly I wish it was portrayed as the marathon it was rather than the series of vignettes we got.
>I've watched the 3rd episode a couple times now and while I appreciate any portrayal of the bomber war, quite frankly I wish it was portrayed as the marathon it was rather than the series of vignettes we got.
yea a lot of ground scenes kill interest. the characters aren't very likable or memorable
most of his "real people" is just dumbasses from his server.
Pretty much every DCS guy would get their asses handed to them very quick. The Growling vs Até videos are a good example of that. He wins like the first two rounds until Até figures out how things work in DCS then it's game over.
>Imagine the Regensberg mission portrayed over 90mins with no cutaways, no music, filmed in cinema verite style, just the constant enduring terror that the real bomber crews faced.
Goddamn, that would've been war kino on a level that would've drained my balls for years.
>that bit where the American lands in Scotland and instantly bonds with the locals by being an Irish-American because Scots prior to the 1980s absolutely loved Irish nationalists.
Yank writers always have the most amusing tells.
Back in the day, writers would do their due diligence, actually research, and make something to be proud of regarding their writing. This day and age? The talented ones are shoved out of the industry and those that remain are run through the meat-grinder of constant content churning so they have no time to make sure what they're even making is up to snuff.
Writer's strike happened and it allowed them to purge all the old screenwriters who they considered were overpaid anyway.
Every since then the push is to hire the "new generation" which means they can pay a comparatively much smaller salary to woke morons they pluck straight out of college.
And all those are good for is injecting current day shit everyone's blabbing about on twitter.
That's why everything these days is a "take" on something.
>cgi air battles >everyone wearing clothes right off the rack >cgi everything >lame characters >meme casting choices of currently popular on letterboxd gay for pay actors
Band of Brothers CGI was pretty bad, too. That paradrop scene was horrible, I could even recognize that sound when one of the planes blows up as the stock sound effect that WC3 used for the death sound for skeletons.
Fair enough. The "They got us zeroed" moment in Band of Brothers had some spotty CG, but that was also because it was 2001 and a lot of the CG they did use was done pretty well.
There's just NO excuse for this show to look as bad as it does this day and age.
BoB was made in 2000. For early 2000s CGI, it's not that horrible. It looks ridiculous now.
But Masters of the Air has so fricking shitty CGI it hurts. I can't believe they couldn't get fricking B-17s.
>sound when one of the planes blows up as the stock sound effect that WC3 used for the death sound for skeletons.
lmao i know exactly what you're talking about. played so much wc3 back in the day, i thought i was the only one that recognized that.
I also recognize one of the transport boat sounds constantly whenever a show portrays ships at dock. And the zepplin sound is used in a bunch of netflix shows when a gate is opened.
I recognize those damn stock sound effects from wc3 and HL1 everywhere
I have also noticed modern shows using what sounds like old PC game samples
I can't tell whether I'm correct or if metal and wood breaking just sounds the same sometimes
I also recognize one of the transport boat sounds constantly whenever a show portrays ships at dock. And the zepplin sound is used in a bunch of netflix shows when a gate is opened.
I recognize those damn stock sound effects from wc3 and HL1 everywhere
The German fighter engine sounds are straight from video games and can be heard in Jane's ww2 fighters, call of duties, medal of honor, battlefield ect. It's that distinct like 2 second fly by sound. I'm sure I have a .wav of it on my PC somewhere
can't believe they don't at least mod the pitch or something
lazy shit
3 months ago
Anonymous
When it originally was supposed to be an HBO project the estimated budget must have been huge, HBO turned it down and the budget then must have been cut by over half, so they had to outsource to the lowest bidder
Only good thing about this was that cute coffee girl and instead of her riding wiener with her breasts out they gave us some busted ass old chick with no ass, and didn't show her breasts either.
And now the only characters left I could give a frick about is the goofy navigator. Did the pretty boy pilot who has been the POV character since the start of the show just literally die without that even being shown on screen?
Why did they pick this to film? Surely in WW2 you could find a dozen more interesting things to follow than: >episode starts >mediocre banter >godawful brad pitt impersonator looks pensive >half the squadron gets shot down in identical combat scenario to last episode >survivors look sad >end scene
Pick a submarine squadron to follow in the pacific. US Navy fighting the Japanese. North Africa Campaign. Stalingrad or Leningrad: The Series.The Night Witches. Hell I'd rather watch a show about some nazi war criminals traipsing through France & Poland, murdering israelites and Russians in Ukraine then getting their ass kicked by the Red Army counter-offensives.
I actually don't think the CGI looks too bad, but I am watching it in 4k on a ultrawidescreen 38" IPS panel that has no letterboxing because the ratio matches the video format.
>Did the pretty boy pilot who has been the POV character since the start of the show just literally die without that even being shown on screen?
Im wondering about this too. Nice post.
>Stalingrad or Leningrad: The Series
we'll never get such kino out of Hollywood
"Stalingrad" is a great film. You might like the Unsere Mutter, Unsere Vater miniseries too
I liked it for the battle fidelity, but I couldn't shake off the notion while watching that the main characters were the "good nazis" and the movie was following them very specifically for a reason.
The whole Ostfront desperately needs a true battle reenactment, it's hilarious that we have a better representation of Napoleonic war on film that nearly any WWII battle.
were any of them even Nazi party or SS? I don't think the SS fought in those battles.
And yeah it's pretty sad. The Thin Red Line really impressed me. I read the US military report on the action there and it seemed really authentic. Good cast too.
Watch the Soviet 1949 Stalingrad movie. They had red army veterans recreate the tactics of the war. and all the German equiptment is actually hanomags and panzer 4s, captured.
Yes it has some Soviet propaganda, especially in the politics scene, but the battle scenes are just a master piece.
I don't think it's bad.. I don't think it's "great" either. But there's only 9 (or 10, I forget if the first two were split or not) episodes.
I've put it in the "I'll finish but likely never watch it again" category. Unlike BOB, Generation Kill and the Pacific which I rewatch every 4 or 5 years.
It looks like shit because that's not even near what would happen. Even getting clipped would result in a near instant cloud of blood, but what they show looks more like a samurai duel.
the wing isn't shot off, the wing tip is. planes don't need their entire wing so even if half of both wings was missing it could still probably land with some good pilot skill.
kek the body is just split in two without anything to cut it in the first place.
Besides, 1 in a billion kinda chance of happening. They could make a realistic, tense scene, where the pilot squints his eyes and than see people falling to their deaths.
Instead, we have this Hollywood shit. God I hate israelites.
Why does Stephen Spielberg put so many humiliating/comedic kill cams of American soldiers in his movies if the Americans were the good guys that put an end to the holocaust?
>he thinks it's just polish women like they're some exception compared to other women
women cheating on military men out on campaign (or MIA) is a trope that's thousands of years old for a reason
they've shown a few at a train station and a few establishing shots of them running to flak batteries but apart from that it's basically just them zooming about in planes where you can't see them
Just saw the 4th episode, you know what, I'll give it credit for being the first decently constructed script (3rd is more mission than narrative). Feels like they finally managed to remember that there's characters in this series.
Why they didn't do this in the first 2 episodes, especially taking advantage of getting away from the CGI, I'll never understand. Like they said the 2 leads joined before Pearl Harbor and learned to fly...why the hell didn't we see any of that?!
better to start in the action than before it.
I remember Star Trek Enterprise's writers originally wanted to start the series with Archer trying to win the job of captain and testing the warp engines, for basically the entire first series before they actually went into space but it got nixed and that was probably for the best. Even the one episode they did later as a flashback to that time period was still pretty boring because you knew what was going to happen anyway.
This show is fricking horrible. Pacific had its flaws but it feels like a masterpiece compared to this. And they haven’t even injected the minorities yet (it’s coming)
For me, it's the cute belgian chick who looks like Thomasin McKenzie
>maximum effort >12 minutes
ah
was mildly interested in whatever the frick this is since i like ww2 era aircraft
but now that i see it has women in it and they fricking talk, have lines, scenes and probably opinions
yeah nah, not worth the 2 clicks it would take to pirate it
The guy with the hat was already reaching for his gun before he answered the question. They already knew he was a traitor. To ask him for a light was just to distract him.
>Can vanquish an entire stuka squadron as a single Hawker hurricane >Can destroy and entire Japanese dive bomber and torpedo bomber assault in an AA battery >Can destroy a full 109 squadron and 190 squadron and shoot down multiple 262 jets singlehandedly from the ball turret of a b17
That game was hilarious and some of the first plane kino I ever played. Took me a while to get all the Star wars references they snuck in there
IS it that bad? I mean you get to have your planes on teevee, think of the boat autists
3 months ago
Anonymous
there's plenty of boatkinos
there's sailboat kinos, there's unterseeboat kinos, there's exploration kinos and even post-apocalyptic boat kino with Costner
3 months ago
Anonymous
I mean WW2 boat kino
3 months ago
Anonymous
yes, that does seem to be in short supply
but there's many other eras for boats; meanwhile for planes you essentially have three eras: ww1, ww2 and the soulless modern jet era
There were a couple of good WW2 movies that came out and flew under the radar so to speak, because they're foriegn film. Dark Blue World is a Czech movie about czech pilots in the RAF, it came out about 20 years ago
I was enjoying the show up till this episode, but this one has felt the worst so far. Off-screening them getting wiped at Bremen is just silly. I would guess it might have been budget cuts, and I really hope they didn't think that was the best was to mask the upcoming PoW shit that was already alluded to in trailers, where a bunch of "dead" characters are actually alive because the only thing to go off this episode was muh no chutes eyewitness testimony. Also the whole repairs while taxiing, one in an a thousand catch of a falling screw scene felt really off. Like it was something out of a marvel movie. I've never gotten that kind of feeling from any scene in Band of Brothers or The Pacific. It's even worse since it basically just builds up a mission that ends up getting off screened. At least the resistance stuff was decent. The other lead fricking off on leave for a bit with that Polish lady was boring and felt like something that would happen in an episode where the war is coming to a close.
Well, films and tv shows about Romans and ancient Greece/Egypt already mix and match armor and weapons that were hundreds of years apart. Heck, dinosaur species were shown together when in actuality they were separated by millions of years or don't exist on the same continent.
The fog is CGI, not the dog. It looks jank because the've done a bad job on the compositing (fur is hard, low production budget, please be understanding sars).
You know instead of shitposting like a moronic pajeet, you could simply watch episode 3 and 4 yourself and take note that the dog is completely cgi in episode 3, and only real in episode 4, right?
You are actually watching this show, yes? In episode 3, the dog is cg'd. There isn't anything more to discuss.
When and if the dog is cgi'd again in future episodes more webms will be made, you can be assured.
>women are the biggest victims in war. Imagine, losing your husband, your father, your sons. They found peace, but we left have to live with it. The women of this nation and the ones who didn't make it back are the real heroes
- Babe Hefron, E Company 101st airborne
The battle scenes are so shit this is ironically the best one so far, the Polish prostitute of Wisdom was the low point of the episode, but the crewman downed in Belgium being in the underground resistance is far more interesting than any of the pajeet bomber sequences.
>Saving Private Ryan budget was 70M$ >Better CGI, cast, action scenes... everything than a 25 years later production made by almost the same people
I still don't get it.
>*none of the same people
Other than that it's by playtone, none of the actual same team involved with BoB/The Pacific worked on this, let alone SPR which was produced by DreamWork
>watches London Blitz naked >hear sounds of screaming and destruction >*god I wish that was me raining down hellfire on civilians* >get hard and start porking polish girl to sounds of war crimes
The war really screwed this guy up didn't it?
Alright anons, we've had the airborne, we've had the marines, and now we have bombers. What part of the US forces in WW2 should get a prestige series next?
I vote submariners in the Pacific or for the 100th/442nd RCT. I think a tanker series could be good, but I don't know how you add anything Fury didn't already cover.
And before anyone starts, yes forces from another power in WW2 would be great but you won't get that anytime soon. As much as I'd love a prestige series about 7th Armored.
Alright anons, we've had the airborne, we've had the marines, and now we have bombers. What part of the US forces in WW2 should get a prestige series next?
I vote submariners in the Pacific or for the 100th/442nd RCT. I think a tanker series could be good, but I don't know how you add anything Fury didn't already cover.
And before anyone starts, yes forces from another power in WW2 would be great but you won't get that anytime soon. As much as I'd love a prestige series about 7th Armored.
since i know least in ww2 about tanks, i wanna see tankerkino. but since i fricking hate patton i would rather see it from the german perspective. their tankers i know are some hard fricking men.
If you thought CGI airplanes was rough, just wait until CGI oceans. CG is terrible for particle effects in general.
Anyways, my answer is the 10th Mountain. It's relatively short so the narrative structure would be closer to BOB than the others, and it's an elite cohesive group of uberchads that fight through northern Italy and Austria, some of the most picturesque scenery in the world. Tons of towns and villages that look the same as 500 years ago, much less 80, so perfectly ready sets. Even real opportunities for diversity since they worked with the Brazilians. Their major offensive ends on the shores of Lake Garda for fricks sakes, it's practically begging for the IMAX treatment.
Knowing them though, they'd still probably find some way to frick it up. CGI terrain, black Italians, definitely some concentration camps to walk through. Ugh.
>my answer is the 10th Mountain
Based answer, but too late. It should've been made in the 90s with film and natural scenery. In the present day, you know it would be some digital composite, orange blue hued shit. Like 300 but in the mountains and with the same homoeroticism.
Alright anons, we've had the airborne, we've had the marines, and now we have bombers. What part of the US forces in WW2 should get a prestige series next?
I vote submariners in the Pacific or for the 100th/442nd RCT. I think a tanker series could be good, but I don't know how you add anything Fury didn't already cover.
And before anyone starts, yes forces from another power in WW2 would be great but you won't get that anytime soon. As much as I'd love a prestige series about 7th Armored.
You mix it with the Submarine story of the British commando unit in 1941 who tried to assassinate him then he isn't there and everyone dies (don't care if this is real or not) just to make it scarier and more fun.
Rommel The Desert Fox played by Ewan McGregor trying to get that Lawrence of Arabia feeling to it. Also you get tons of Africans in the movie, and a big part of it would be his African buddies dying and its sad. Rommel would be played as a uncharacteristic Nazi who says he wants "war without hate" and sees war as a way to test ones mettle although a few evil deeds are shown so no israelites get mad so he isn't a superhero. There will be a scene of him repelling some American attacks but something inside him can't take it anymore: HE MUST KILL ADOLF HITLER
Since he is supposed to be a tragic figure who fails you would slather on the romance, it would be a lot like The English Patient you have to have one scene where Rommel recovers from diphtheria in a nursing bed and makes love to a nurse and they become lovers or I dunno maybe he has a girlfriend who sends letters. Anyway you should feel really bad for him and want to cry a lot by the end when Hitler foils his plans and tells Rommel to kill himself and the ending is kinda Bravehearty maybe even have him scream his catchphrase and shoot himself in the end <BLACK SCREEN> Hitler would ironically shoot himself in a bunker in 1946. Rommel was known as The Desert Fox, he pioneered desert fighting and the British respected him, he represented the good that Germans can be.
This would have a lot of violins so you cry ala Schindlers List.
442nd story would just be Band of Brothers but with Asian Americans and internment camp baggage. I would even go a step further and say it's hard for a WWII mini-series to do anything infantry related again without seeming like a retread of BoB or The Pacific. I like the idea of submariners in the PTO though, since they had a completely insular culture unlike anything else in the Navy. Also, it may sound boring on the surface, but I think a show focusing on some kind of mid-high level headquarters staff would be excellent, what with conflicting personalities, intelligence and logistical achievements and failures, and a look into the rationale of decisions that otherwise look idiotic from a foot soldier's perspective (such as the decision to send troops onto a heavily fortified beach). It would be more like Mad Men, except bad sales pitches end up putting thousands of soldiers in the hospital or cemetery.
I'm just tried of hearing about the nisei during WWII. I don't care that they've never been given a Band of Brothers quality movie or TV show; neither have 99.9% of all infantry units that fought in the war. I've heard the 442nd's story so many times through osmosis I'm already fatigued.
holy shit, the 4th episode was a snoozefest. I legit fast forwarded through that 10-15 mins of the rat face looking guy talking to a Polish prostitute, and any scenes where they're having a fricking party or dance. The only interesting part was the two guys stuck in Belgium, and it was only like 5 minutes long. Not only is the CGI done by Indians, apparently the writing is also done by jeets too.
A bad show getting worse with each episode
hitting a new low with with 'the women episode'
awful script writing
making use of game of thrones quick travel
random doughnut lady we don't care about
cliched french girls wise and brave beyond their years
polish woman with bizzare accent
stupid accent + deep philosophical thoughts + vodka = hollywood slav
very helpful that every foreigner in 1940s europe speaks really fluent English
Hey guys... don't dare speak a word in English - but feel free to loudly sing your anthem in our cafe
execute some guys new friend in front of him... don't bother to explain what made you take such drastic action
Speak English out loud in a crowded train station with Germans on the other side of the window... That wont draw any attention at all.
What else....
CGI dog is now real dog (must called off the dog strike)
Groundcrew using magic spanner to magic fix engine in dramatic way and can communicate clearly over the sound of 3 fricking massive engines
The whole stupid star of show dying off screen only to most like be alive in next episode
>fake ladder >fake sign >fake cannisters >fake box >fake trolley >fake lamp post >fake bars on the window
Literally none of the set dressing on that empty brick wall is real. They didn't even bother to make the lamp the same as the ones on the other side of the building. I'm also not 100% sold that the window itself is real either, it seems flush at the bottom unlike the top windows we can see on the left that clearly have depth to them. But everything I listed above I can verify as CGI.
Really bad CGI at that.
i think those buildings in the back, the tallest ones, are cgi too
Easier to just use a bare set that could become any time period with a few static CGI additions.
And there's no way those buildings are real, that's like 4 storeys tall with chimney's no-one uses these days.
i think those buildings in the back, the tallest ones, are cgi too
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Easier to just use a bare set that could become any time period with a few static CGI additions.
And there's no way those buildings are real, that's like 4 storeys tall with chimney's no-one uses these days.
Everything else might be CGI but the sign is historically accurate so it seems someone actually cared about this small detail.
that one part that is not in the webm where the plane slams in to the ground and explodes in a fireball is more impactful than any of the explosions in this show
>vietnam >kino
coming home from the jungle where you had to stay alive just to avoid not dying in a battle and then being spat on by hippies so you had to hide the fact you were a veteran, sure
the main complaints are about cgi so its probably some zoomer astroturf campaign started on gaybook or twitter that has nothing to do with the show but the streaming service or whatever. zoomers love tribal warfare so that's my read on it. i'm 30+ and only time cgi is bad is if it detracts from the immersion.
i recently watched a 80k usd (2019) budget film called lancaster skies and it had cgi that was obviously low budget but i'm able to suspend my disbelief because i'm 30+, i can't believe people who can't suspend their disbelief with top of the line CGI work, i almost feel bad for them.
>The characters are bland
ep4 is character focused, its not band of brothers but for me it's the best ep so far and sets up ep5 well
I was here when The Pacific first aired. That is a series that had a lot of bullshit complaints from people who weren't actually watching it. This series has a lot of legitimate complaints from people that are actually watching it. It's not the worst show on earth but most of the complaints put forth by Cinemaphile are legitimate. You are lying to yourself if you think otherwise.
pretty fricking boring tbh
show is so white my head got dizzy
I look forward to the Tuskegee Airmen
is there going to be a german POV that doesn't make them look like monsters? Like imagine seeing your family die in an allied bombing because you failed to shoot down enough b17s
>start war
>lead indiscriminate bombing campaigns
>forever doom Europe to mediocrity
wtf why doesn't the Allied countries make movies that paint german as le good guys 🙁
enough about the allies
They don't give a german POV at all. They don't paint them as monsters either. They are just the enemy. Stop projecting your moronic ideas into everything.
we got 5 episodes left, they'll do the obligatory tearjerker episode about Dresden
they baited it with the collapsed building in the latest one, it's bound to come
>Like imagine seeing your family die in an allied bombing because you failed to shoot down enough b17s
git gud
People with Indian PMs don't get to express their opinion, 'gloidcuck.
>germ*ns
>not monsters
Germans should have been wiped off the earth. They are animals that set humanity back 1000 years after they raped and pillaged the Roman Empire. Then they tried to do it again with 20th century Europe. They will try again once the right takes back the reigns of the government within the next 50 years.
Romanboos are so terminally reddit.
abbasids advanced civilization more in 100 years than romans in 1000 so it all evens out
Germans are monsters though. Was World War I , World War II and the European Union not clear enough for you?
Literally white genocide
yea the show should have been about the Rwandan airforce in WW2
they decided to put the non-whites on the computer SFX team instead
So go watch Robyn Hood you sóy sucking turd world cuck.
Are indians to blame once again?
GOOD MORNING, SIRS
We're outsourcing our CG work because it's financially unsustainable with unions in the states.
DNEG, did the sfx, and they are a reputable company. They did BR2049, Tenet, Dune, and a bunch of other very nice looking films. Unfortunately they also just recently opened up a Mumbai office, and my guess is that is where lower priority projects are going to get sent. We are going to be seeing more and more of this type of garbage sfx coming from very decent companies.
>We are going to be seeing more and more of this type of garbage sfx coming from very decent companies.
Why is modern media pure pain?
Because it's an unsustainable industry driven by massive profits and they're trying to squeeze out every last dollar
>They did BR2049
And it shows
>Dune
>Good cgi
The 80s movie has better cgi
>80s movie
>cgi
Do those homosexual zoomer haircuts make you moronic or something?
cgi studios aren't unionized moron
CGI isn’t real either dipshit?
>muh unions!!!
Shut the frick up you boomer shitskin lover
>$250 million budget
glad im not the only one who thought that was shit. look like an ace combat 7 explosion.
RIP in pepperoni Chernobyl penis guy.
HDGSG
>still not best useful
>says that he'll be useful
>just gets in the way and dies
I hope someone was fired for that plot hole.
When will people stop believing the amount they claim it cost to make tv series/films
it's like I'm there.
DO NOT REDEEEM THE CGI
DO NOT REDEEEEEM
Masters of the Loo
This is what they fought for
That hits hard. Things would have been so different if the internet existed back then.
Are they just in alphabetical order. Lmao. Like a list of handy tools.
>Pajeets make CGI for TV Show depicting the British Empire during the height of its power when India was the British Raj
Pottery...
I'm not even surprised anymore.
it's only gonna get worse from here
>TREVIUS TYRONE BRINSON JR
what race perchance is this gentleman one ponders?
This dude is cooler than (you) are.
https://www.instagram.com/p/C3AMAQtgCs7/
wow a Black person who could have guessed!!
Pooers of the Loo
>competency crisis isnt rea-
>it's blacks fault, not the ruthless, never ending cost cutting from billionaires and the lack of incentive regular workers have to bother doing anything but the bare minimum
DEI has become the new cope for boomers to explain why everything's going to shit.
As though it was all nice and sparkly when WASPs ran everything. It's an obvious diversion from their own responsibility for the decades long downfall.
Trevius Tyrone Brinson Jr
How's the show?
Still undefeated after thirty years.
>Violating another nation's airspace
>calling themselves Masters of the Air
I'm going to be honest with you there was something building up and swelling inside me the whole day today and sure enough it was a really bombastic fart and for what seemed like an eternity I was truly the master of the air, at least locally.
What a blowhard!
>half the squadron gets shot down every time they go out
>literally one guy out of an entire fricking wing makes it to 25 missions
>masters of the air
more like Disasters of the Air
Is this the thread?
I've noticed that interest in this show on Cinemaphile has been steadily plummeting in the last week.
No hype for tonight's episode. Well I am about to watch it if anyone has anything to say.
This board is fricking jaded. I've loved every episode so far, because I'm not scrubbing through every frame of CGI trying to figure out why I should stop watching it.
I know people meme about >muh post-election era of Cinemaphile but unironically sometime around 2016-2018 this site became a bastion for hatred and vitriol as opposed to a home for outcasts like it used to be... maybe the two things are just synonymous now but it's pretty jarring noticing the difference. This place used to be primarily a source of humour for everyone where hatred was allowed/tolerated/encouraged depending on what you were talking about and how funny your response was... now it is legitimately a cesspool of "normies" just venting their shit opinions and inflaming other anons into responding with equal vitriol. Lame.
And to any newbies that come at me, I've been here fore like 15 years. Die.
/misc/ should be deleted, and racism should be bannable. just word filter and auto ban morons who trip it too much. obviously never happening because those are the morons that browse the site without adblock and generate money for hiro and buy the most passes.
tired of newbie tards that treat the site like edgy version of twitter where you're encouraged to not put any effort into your input and try to come up with a quippy <10 word remark for likes. clearly it's just a moderation issue, when Cinemaphile can stay mostly clean and on topic despite being semi active.
Only newbies would argue with you. This place is just less censored reddit now.
And call me a polchud, but even in 2015/16, there were legit analysts, data crunchers, people posting complicated voter data and poll projections, etc. It was a level of intelligence that is wholly lacking now, the difference is complete.
And it's probably not a coincidence that there's a lot more support for state dept positions now, nafo and the like. The takeover was swift and effective.
The only good part about this show is the air battles.
Fortunately they seem to be aware of this and there's at least some action sequences every episode so far.
Everything else seems pretty dull. Its almost good, maybe if they had made it a movie instead of a show it would've really shined and made it like Fury except in an airplane.
I frankly don't understand, with the already restricted episodes and the lack of opportunities for real "bonding time" with the cast, why they didn't consolidate everything into a big episode that showcased an entire mission from start to end in near real time. Imagine the Regensberg mission portrayed over 90mins with no cutaways, no music, filmed in cinema verite style, just the constant enduring terror that the real bomber crews faced.
I've watched the 3rd episode a couple times now and while I appreciate any portrayal of the bomber war, quite frankly I wish it was portrayed as the marathon it was rather than the series of vignettes we got.
>I've watched the 3rd episode a couple times now and while I appreciate any portrayal of the bomber war, quite frankly I wish it was portrayed as the marathon it was rather than the series of vignettes we got.
yea a lot of ground scenes kill interest. the characters aren't very likable or memorable
>pic
aerial combat will never be that brutal or dramatic again
BVR missile fights are GAY and LAME
Go watch a Growling Sidewinder BVR video and come back.
> Best keks are had when he gets overconfident
His schtick is just showing how bad the AI is. Any time he goes up against a real pilot he gets his shit kicked in real quick.
he always fights real people though
most of his "real people" is just dumbasses from his server.
Pretty much every DCS guy would get their asses handed to them very quick. The Growling vs Até videos are a good example of that. He wins like the first two rounds until Até figures out how things work in DCS then it's game over.
>Imagine the Regensberg mission portrayed over 90mins with no cutaways, no music, filmed in cinema verite style, just the constant enduring terror that the real bomber crews faced.
Goddamn, that would've been war kino on a level that would've drained my balls for years.
WE WERE ROBBED
Source?
Harry Crosby's memoirs
So do it; give us the anon cut
wait until you see episode 4
>that bit where the American lands in Scotland and instantly bonds with the locals by being an Irish-American because Scots prior to the 1980s absolutely loved Irish nationalists.
Yank writers always have the most amusing tells.
It is amusing that they even thought he'd be able to understand them at all.
American writers in current day Hollywood.
Back in the day, writers would do their due diligence, actually research, and make something to be proud of regarding their writing. This day and age? The talented ones are shoved out of the industry and those that remain are run through the meat-grinder of constant content churning so they have no time to make sure what they're even making is up to snuff.
band of brothers was supervised by stephen ambrose and the pacific by his son hugh ambrose. life long historians. im wondering who supervised this
Stephen Ambrose was a life long fabricator and plagiarist.
Ambrose was a joke and not a serious historian
Writer's strike happened and it allowed them to purge all the old screenwriters who they considered were overpaid anyway.
Every since then the push is to hire the "new generation" which means they can pay a comparatively much smaller salary to woke morons they pluck straight out of college.
And all those are good for is injecting current day shit everyone's blabbing about on twitter.
That's why everything these days is a "take" on something.
>american pilot bails his plane and lands somewhere in Flanders
>locals speak French
It's not that bad. I watch it with my WW2 veteran grandfather and we get plastered.
jesus anon, he must be 96 years old. exploit him for youtube likes.
ok i am about to watch it now
Not sure who this is even for
>cgi air battles
>everyone wearing clothes right off the rack
>cgi everything
>lame characters
>meme casting choices of currently popular on letterboxd gay for pay actors
might as well release the entire thing on tiktok
>might as well release the entire thing on tiktok
Don't give them ideas, anon.
Band of Brothers CGI was pretty bad, too. That paradrop scene was horrible, I could even recognize that sound when one of the planes blows up as the stock sound effect that WC3 used for the death sound for skeletons.
Fair enough. The "They got us zeroed" moment in Band of Brothers had some spotty CG, but that was also because it was 2001 and a lot of the CG they did use was done pretty well.
There's just NO excuse for this show to look as bad as it does this day and age.
I think that’s OP’s point
BoB was made in 2000. For early 2000s CGI, it's not that horrible. It looks ridiculous now.
But Masters of the Air has so fricking shitty CGI it hurts. I can't believe they couldn't get fricking B-17s.
>can't believe they couldn't get fricking B-17s
There’s like 2 airworthy ones left
>sound when one of the planes blows up as the stock sound effect that WC3 used for the death sound for skeletons.
lmao i know exactly what you're talking about. played so much wc3 back in the day, i thought i was the only one that recognized that.
I also recognize one of the transport boat sounds constantly whenever a show portrays ships at dock. And the zepplin sound is used in a bunch of netflix shows when a gate is opened.
I recognize those damn stock sound effects from wc3 and HL1 everywhere
I have also noticed modern shows using what sounds like old PC game samples
I can't tell whether I'm correct or if metal and wood breaking just sounds the same sometimes
The German fighter engine sounds are straight from video games and can be heard in Jane's ww2 fighters, call of duties, medal of honor, battlefield ect. It's that distinct like 2 second fly by sound. I'm sure I have a .wav of it on my PC somewhere
can't believe they don't at least mod the pitch or something
lazy shit
When it originally was supposed to be an HBO project the estimated budget must have been huge, HBO turned it down and the budget then must have been cut by over half, so they had to outsource to the lowest bidder
Well here I am. Just finished episode 4 of 9 of this series.
I tried to give it a chance, I tried to like it. But on behalf of Cinemaphile I am officially declaring this show a bust.
Think the Melbourne episode of The Pacific but worse. A complete waste of time.
It's over bros, this show is shit.
Only good thing about this was that cute coffee girl and instead of her riding wiener with her breasts out they gave us some busted ass old chick with no ass, and didn't show her breasts either.
And now the only characters left I could give a frick about is the goofy navigator. Did the pretty boy pilot who has been the POV character since the start of the show just literally die without that even being shown on screen?
Why did they pick this to film? Surely in WW2 you could find a dozen more interesting things to follow than:
>episode starts
>mediocre banter
>godawful brad pitt impersonator looks pensive
>half the squadron gets shot down in identical combat scenario to last episode
>survivors look sad
>end scene
Pick a submarine squadron to follow in the pacific. US Navy fighting the Japanese. North Africa Campaign. Stalingrad or Leningrad: The Series.The Night Witches. Hell I'd rather watch a show about some nazi war criminals traipsing through France & Poland, murdering israelites and Russians in Ukraine then getting their ass kicked by the Red Army counter-offensives.
I actually don't think the CGI looks too bad, but I am watching it in 4k on a ultrawidescreen 38" IPS panel that has no letterboxing because the ratio matches the video format.
>Did the pretty boy pilot who has been the POV character since the start of the show just literally die without that even being shown on screen?
Im wondering about this too. Nice post.
>Stalingrad or Leningrad: The Series
we'll never get such kino out of Hollywood
"Stalingrad" is a great film. You might like the Unsere Mutter, Unsere Vater miniseries too
That show is abject trash
I liked it for the battle fidelity, but I couldn't shake off the notion while watching that the main characters were the "good nazis" and the movie was following them very specifically for a reason.
The whole Ostfront desperately needs a true battle reenactment, it's hilarious that we have a better representation of Napoleonic war on film that nearly any WWII battle.
were any of them even Nazi party or SS? I don't think the SS fought in those battles.
And yeah it's pretty sad. The Thin Red Line really impressed me. I read the US military report on the action there and it seemed really authentic. Good cast too.
There are tons of soviet kino.
Watch the Soviet 1949 Stalingrad movie. They had red army veterans recreate the tactics of the war. and all the German equiptment is actually hanomags and panzer 4s, captured.
Yes it has some Soviet propaganda, especially in the politics scene, but the battle scenes are just a master piece.
It's almost disrespectfully bad
Im about to marathon the first episode.
ignoring the bad cgi, is this a good show?
I don't think it's bad.. I don't think it's "great" either. But there's only 9 (or 10, I forget if the first two were split or not) episodes.
I've put it in the "I'll finish but likely never watch it again" category. Unlike BOB, Generation Kill and the Pacific which I rewatch every 4 or 5 years.
>shoots an air to air missile at you
Heh. nothing personnel, kid
they had rockets back then anon
In fact this mission was one of the first instances where they were widely used.
Just not in the way portrayed in the show.
Why would the Germans shoot someone then throw them out of a plane?
DO NOT REDEEM
Ack-
when his body hits the wing it looks like hes split, like half his body stays on the wing and the other flys off?
he goes through the top of the propeller. it's obscured by the wienerpit brace so it looks shit.
It looks like shit because that's not even near what would happen. Even getting clipped would result in a near instant cloud of blood, but what they show looks more like a samurai duel.
What's with the chemtrails?
THATS GOTTA HURT
>good morning sars!
>best CGI-AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>bomber top left has a fricking wing shot off
>still flying straight & level and shooting.
the wing isn't shot off, the wing tip is. planes don't need their entire wing so even if half of both wings was missing it could still probably land with some good pilot skill.
A b17 absolutely needs both wings.
kek the body is just split in two without anything to cut it in the first place.
Besides, 1 in a billion kinda chance of happening. They could make a realistic, tense scene, where the pilot squints his eyes and than see people falling to their deaths.
Instead, we have this Hollywood shit. God I hate israelites.
Hitler was trans tho
Yheah I was confused by that, its like hes falling so softly, they should have just made it quicker and turn him into blood mist hitting the blades.
dear lord
Why does Stephen Spielberg put so many humiliating/comedic kill cams of American soldiers in his movies if the Americans were the good guys that put an end to the holocaust?
>So that just happened!
was hoping this to be battle of britain kino
feels more like an insult
>polish women aren't loyal
Learning lots here tbh senpai
>he thinks it's just polish women like they're some exception compared to other women
women cheating on military men out on campaign (or MIA) is a trope that's thousands of years old for a reason
>incel chuds can't read sarcasm
Learning even more here tbh senpai
do they show the germans at all?
they've shown a few at a train station and a few establishing shots of them running to flak batteries but apart from that it's basically just them zooming about in planes where you can't see them
so they don't even show german pilots shooting bombers down? what a joke.
I think all the combat's been from the bomber crew perspective.
>le baddies
there's a concentration camp episode
remember the 6 billion
Just saw the 4th episode, you know what, I'll give it credit for being the first decently constructed script (3rd is more mission than narrative). Feels like they finally managed to remember that there's characters in this series.
Why they didn't do this in the first 2 episodes, especially taking advantage of getting away from the CGI, I'll never understand. Like they said the 2 leads joined before Pearl Harbor and learned to fly...why the hell didn't we see any of that?!
better to start in the action than before it.
I remember Star Trek Enterprise's writers originally wanted to start the series with Archer trying to win the job of captain and testing the warp engines, for basically the entire first series before they actually went into space but it got nixed and that was probably for the best. Even the one episode they did later as a flashback to that time period was still pretty boring because you knew what was going to happen anyway.
That makes no fricking sense, every character needs an origin story
>star trek
Go to bed Mike.
This show is fricking horrible. Pacific had its flaws but it feels like a masterpiece compared to this. And they haven’t even injected the minorities yet (it’s coming)
She's CUTE.
I want to saturation BOMB her STRIP.
with my wiener.
For me, it's the cute belgian chick who looks like Thomasin McKenzie
>maximum effort
>12 minutes
ah
was mildly interested in whatever the frick this is since i like ww2 era aircraft
but now that i see it has women in it and they fricking talk, have lines, scenes and probably opinions
yeah nah, not worth the 2 clicks it would take to pirate it
>secret nazi
>dies doing a nazi salute
kino
Why is he holding his gun like a wannabee gangster in one scene and normally in the next?
He got caught because of his lighter. No American would have one of those. Yankees used Zippos.
>wrong lighter
>didn't know the lyrics
>accent maybe?
>didn't write DD/MM/YY
>>didn't write DD/MM/YY
You mean he DID write DD/MM/YY
Only Ameritards write MM/DD/YY
he also wrote them like a european
lyrics were wrong
when he says banner his fake accept slips
date was final nail
The guy with the hat was already reaching for his gun before he answered the question. They already knew he was a traitor. To ask him for a light was just to distract him.
Losing has consequences.
they got the fat ugly girls
>cgi bad
>thread turns into incel general
many such cases
LITERALLY WHITE GENOCIDE!
What was the literal purpose of this?
could they really not get a dog for a couple of shots? is the whole thing filmed in a studio?
Hello is this the new show about which to be dishonestly mad?
I suppose you could whine about blacks if you want to be dishonest, but there's far more to be honestly disappointed about.
The only honest critic is Austin Butler still thinking he's Elvis (and Brando at the same time)
lazy cartoon garbage
All Apple had to do was get George Lucas on board to direct his companies video game which was million times better than the shit the jeets made
>Can vanquish an entire stuka squadron as a single Hawker hurricane
>Can destroy and entire Japanese dive bomber and torpedo bomber assault in an AA battery
>Can destroy a full 109 squadron and 190 squadron and shoot down multiple 262 jets singlehandedly from the ball turret of a b17
That game was hilarious and some of the first plane kino I ever played. Took me a while to get all the Star wars references they snuck in there
What was the Xbox lucaesarts WwII flier where you could unlock an xwing and attack Iwo Jima?
>naziboos
check
>plane autists
check
>khvs incels
check
>generic seething pol-yps
check
>self taughts CGI experts
check
>SEETHstorians
check
all me
I know I was pointing at (you)
now that i got your attention what's wrong with being a plane autist?
you get mad at things nobody gives a frick about which makes you even madder
i'm mad
IS it that bad? I mean you get to have your planes on teevee, think of the boat autists
there's plenty of boatkinos
there's sailboat kinos, there's unterseeboat kinos, there's exploration kinos and even post-apocalyptic boat kino with Costner
I mean WW2 boat kino
yes, that does seem to be in short supply
but there's many other eras for boats; meanwhile for planes you essentially have three eras: ww1, ww2 and the soulless modern jet era
Will there ever be another WW2 kino with practical effects? Or are we just going to get CGI slop until the end of days?
There were a couple of good WW2 movies that came out and flew under the radar so to speak, because they're foriegn film. Dark Blue World is a Czech movie about czech pilots in the RAF, it came out about 20 years ago
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cool I'll check it out thanks anon
At least WWI kino has already been filmed
the protagonist is so ridiculously good looking it's distracting
show bobs and vagene
Do they get to bomb the supply lines for the camps and kill thousands from malnutrition?
Tactical aircraft did that.
I was enjoying the show up till this episode, but this one has felt the worst so far. Off-screening them getting wiped at Bremen is just silly. I would guess it might have been budget cuts, and I really hope they didn't think that was the best was to mask the upcoming PoW shit that was already alluded to in trailers, where a bunch of "dead" characters are actually alive because the only thing to go off this episode was muh no chutes eyewitness testimony. Also the whole repairs while taxiing, one in an a thousand catch of a falling screw scene felt really off. Like it was something out of a marvel movie. I've never gotten that kind of feeling from any scene in Band of Brothers or The Pacific. It's even worse since it basically just builds up a mission that ends up getting off screened. At least the resistance stuff was decent. The other lead fricking off on leave for a bit with that Polish lady was boring and felt like something that would happen in an episode where the war is coming to a close.
>sir, the plan we had is being changed by our higher ups
>my god we’re sending these boys to there death
Fricking cringe
Did they literally kill the main character offscreen?
Or am I imagining things?
He was shot down and ends up in a german prison camp
>CGI Cows
>CGI Dogs
The ABSOLUTLY state of modern Hollywood
What the frick is this
behind the scenes
I think we have already reached this point.
This is actually a bright future forecast.
People are still going to the cinema.
Well, films and tv shows about Romans and ancient Greece/Egypt already mix and match armor and weapons that were hundreds of years apart. Heck, dinosaur species were shown together when in actuality they were separated by millions of years or don't exist on the same continent.
The opening is KINO
What they choose to cgi and not is baffling
didn't have dog vs had dog
The fog is CGI, not the dog. It looks jank because the've done a bad job on the compositing (fur is hard, low production budget, please be understanding sars).
the dog is green screen'd in this scene
>green screen'd
Or, to use another term, composited.
well I'm not up to date on fancy terminology
You know instead of shitposting like a moronic pajeet, you could simply watch episode 3 and 4 yourself and take note that the dog is completely cgi in episode 3, and only real in episode 4, right?
You are actually watching this show, yes? In episode 3, the dog is cg'd. There isn't anything more to discuss.
When and if the dog is cgi'd again in future episodes more webms will be made, you can be assured.
>grandpa is a ww2 vet
>was a cook on a non-combat ship that never saw action
Where's his show
he's the guy who gives leckie the coffee in the pacific
>women - the episode
so tiresome
>women are the biggest victims in war. Imagine, losing your husband, your father, your sons. They found peace, but we left have to live with it. The women of this nation and the ones who didn't make it back are the real heroes
- Babe Hefron, E Company 101st airborne
>here's the scrip you got to read, and you better read it right old senile geezer or there goes your SS
The battle scenes are so shit this is ironically the best one so far, the Polish prostitute of Wisdom was the low point of the episode, but the crewman downed in Belgium being in the underground resistance is far more interesting than any of the pajeet bomber sequences.
>Saving Private Ryan budget was 70M$
>Better CGI, cast, action scenes... everything than a 25 years later production made by almost the same people
I still don't get it.
>*none of the same people
Other than that it's by playtone, none of the actual same team involved with BoB/The Pacific worked on this, let alone SPR which was produced by DreamWork
>d0g.jpg
>Bland of Blubbers
>The Pathetic
>Disaster of No Care
These shows have always been shit.
did they do munster yet
hire 100 pajeets
get bollywood tier fx
like in pacific i feel like all the actors look and feel too much like actors. it feels fake, aside from shitty cgi
and i forgot to add, the worst offense, its boring
>watches London Blitz naked
>hear sounds of screaming and destruction
>*god I wish that was me raining down hellfire on civilians*
>get hard and start porking polish girl to sounds of war crimes
The war really screwed this guy up didn't it?
bitches love warcrimes
they say they don't, but they do
makes em wet as october
So they just fire bomb Dresden all episodes?
Alright anons, we've had the airborne, we've had the marines, and now we have bombers. What part of the US forces in WW2 should get a prestige series next?
I vote submariners in the Pacific or for the 100th/442nd RCT. I think a tanker series could be good, but I don't know how you add anything Fury didn't already cover.
And before anyone starts, yes forces from another power in WW2 would be great but you won't get that anytime soon. As much as I'd love a prestige series about 7th Armored.
>submariners in the Pacific
The USS Barb would be kino
based
since i know least in ww2 about tanks, i wanna see tankerkino. but since i fricking hate patton i would rather see it from the german perspective. their tankers i know are some hard fricking men.
If you thought CGI airplanes was rough, just wait until CGI oceans. CG is terrible for particle effects in general.
Anyways, my answer is the 10th Mountain. It's relatively short so the narrative structure would be closer to BOB than the others, and it's an elite cohesive group of uberchads that fight through northern Italy and Austria, some of the most picturesque scenery in the world. Tons of towns and villages that look the same as 500 years ago, much less 80, so perfectly ready sets. Even real opportunities for diversity since they worked with the Brazilians. Their major offensive ends on the shores of Lake Garda for fricks sakes, it's practically begging for the IMAX treatment.
Knowing them though, they'd still probably find some way to frick it up. CGI terrain, black Italians, definitely some concentration camps to walk through. Ugh.
>my answer is the 10th Mountain
Based answer, but too late. It should've been made in the 90s with film and natural scenery. In the present day, you know it would be some digital composite, orange blue hued shit. Like 300 but in the mountains and with the same homoeroticism.
Perspective of the 6th Panzer Division could work.
Ending will be them deserting on the tank and living their new life in a random village
Could also be the Afrika Corp tank squad kino
You mix it with the Submarine story of the British commando unit in 1941 who tried to assassinate him then he isn't there and everyone dies (don't care if this is real or not) just to make it scarier and more fun.
Rommel The Desert Fox played by Ewan McGregor trying to get that Lawrence of Arabia feeling to it. Also you get tons of Africans in the movie, and a big part of it would be his African buddies dying and its sad. Rommel would be played as a uncharacteristic Nazi who says he wants "war without hate" and sees war as a way to test ones mettle although a few evil deeds are shown so no israelites get mad so he isn't a superhero. There will be a scene of him repelling some American attacks but something inside him can't take it anymore: HE MUST KILL ADOLF HITLER
Since he is supposed to be a tragic figure who fails you would slather on the romance, it would be a lot like The English Patient you have to have one scene where Rommel recovers from diphtheria in a nursing bed and makes love to a nurse and they become lovers or I dunno maybe he has a girlfriend who sends letters. Anyway you should feel really bad for him and want to cry a lot by the end when Hitler foils his plans and tells Rommel to kill himself and the ending is kinda Bravehearty maybe even have him scream his catchphrase and shoot himself in the end <BLACK SCREEN> Hitler would ironically shoot himself in a bunker in 1946. Rommel was known as The Desert Fox, he pioneered desert fighting and the British respected him, he represented the good that Germans can be.
This would have a lot of violins so you cry ala Schindlers List.
>afrika
Frickin dropped
442nd story would just be Band of Brothers but with Asian Americans and internment camp baggage. I would even go a step further and say it's hard for a WWII mini-series to do anything infantry related again without seeming like a retread of BoB or The Pacific. I like the idea of submariners in the PTO though, since they had a completely insular culture unlike anything else in the Navy. Also, it may sound boring on the surface, but I think a show focusing on some kind of mid-high level headquarters staff would be excellent, what with conflicting personalities, intelligence and logistical achievements and failures, and a look into the rationale of decisions that otherwise look idiotic from a foot soldier's perspective (such as the decision to send troops onto a heavily fortified beach). It would be more like Mad Men, except bad sales pitches end up putting thousands of soldiers in the hospital or cemetery.
I don’t even like Asian-Americans that much. They made Terror S2 unwatchable.
I'm just tried of hearing about the nisei during WWII. I don't care that they've never been given a Band of Brothers quality movie or TV show; neither have 99.9% of all infantry units that fought in the war. I've heard the 442nd's story so many times through osmosis I'm already fatigued.
holy shit, the 4th episode was a snoozefest. I legit fast forwarded through that 10-15 mins of the rat face looking guy talking to a Polish prostitute, and any scenes where they're having a fricking party or dance. The only interesting part was the two guys stuck in Belgium, and it was only like 5 minutes long. Not only is the CGI done by Indians, apparently the writing is also done by jeets too.
A bad show getting worse with each episode
hitting a new low with with 'the women episode'
awful script writing
making use of game of thrones quick travel
random doughnut lady we don't care about
cliched french girls wise and brave beyond their years
polish woman with bizzare accent
stupid accent + deep philosophical thoughts + vodka = hollywood slav
very helpful that every foreigner in 1940s europe speaks really fluent English
Hey guys... don't dare speak a word in English - but feel free to loudly sing your anthem in our cafe
execute some guys new friend in front of him... don't bother to explain what made you take such drastic action
Speak English out loud in a crowded train station with Germans on the other side of the window... That wont draw any attention at all.
What else....
CGI dog is now real dog (must called off the dog strike)
Groundcrew using magic spanner to magic fix engine in dramatic way and can communicate clearly over the sound of 3 fricking massive engines
The whole stupid star of show dying off screen only to most like be alive in next episode
Fricking hate that they are shoving that Elvis guy into everything now, he's so obnoxious
Do they still have 'No israelites allowed' signs in Belgium or is this sign also CGI? That ladder looks suspiciously fake.
>fake ladder
>fake sign
>fake cannisters
>fake box
>fake trolley
>fake lamp post
>fake bars on the window
Literally none of the set dressing on that empty brick wall is real. They didn't even bother to make the lamp the same as the ones on the other side of the building. I'm also not 100% sold that the window itself is real either, it seems flush at the bottom unlike the top windows we can see on the left that clearly have depth to them. But everything I listed above I can verify as CGI.
Really bad CGI at that.
i think those buildings in the back, the tallest ones, are cgi too
Easier to just use a bare set that could become any time period with a few static CGI additions.
And there's no way those buildings are real, that's like 4 storeys tall with chimney's no-one uses these days.
Everything else might be CGI but the sign is historically accurate so it seems someone actually cared about this small detail.
>Band of Brothers
>Generation Kill
Does anything come close? The Pacific is alright too.
>Does anything come close?
No.
masters of the air.
>From the craft service company that catered Band of Brothers comes Some Shitty Movie on apple tv+
>This civilian's house got bombed and my friend died so now I'm angry
Are they really going so far to use this to justify the bombing of Dresden?
>thinking it needed any justification
just starting a Band of Brothers stream @ https://bongstream.live/north/
>do you want to frick me, flyboy?
How do you respond?
at least buy me a drink first
What kind of dick sucking and butt fricking is Austin Butler doing? They are pushing this homosexual hard.
>band of brothers? now that was some cgi plane kino
that one part that is not in the webm where the plane slams in to the ground and explodes in a fireball is more impactful than any of the explosions in this show
The altitude portrayal is all kinds of fricked in this, but it benefits from being scanned onto film and compositing to a real explosion at the end.
the exploding plane bit in the middle is clearly a model
Okay, I admit it honestly.
These are terrible too.
do you think old mate hit that before leaving?
there was another amazing ass in this episode, think a woman in a red dress iirc.
Why the FRICK are we still stuck in WW2? Why couldn't we have gotten a Vietnam Band of Brother's kino
>vietnam
>kino
coming home from the jungle where you had to stay alive just to avoid not dying in a battle and then being spat on by hippies so you had to hide the fact you were a veteran, sure
>it ain’t me starts playing
Because some things can never be topped
first season is great. goes downhill when they change shooting locations and get their budget cut/
It looked impressive on 80s 18inch CRTs even for 80s action slop.
Even Il2 1946 would produce better footage than this.
I am enjoying it well enough so far. Specially the behind enemy lines subplot.
I'm watching the 2nd episode now and it isn't bad at all. The characters are bland, but some details are done with care. You gays are whiners.
the main complaints are about cgi so its probably some zoomer astroturf campaign started on gaybook or twitter that has nothing to do with the show but the streaming service or whatever. zoomers love tribal warfare so that's my read on it. i'm 30+ and only time cgi is bad is if it detracts from the immersion.
i recently watched a 80k usd (2019) budget film called lancaster skies and it had cgi that was obviously low budget but i'm able to suspend my disbelief because i'm 30+, i can't believe people who can't suspend their disbelief with top of the line CGI work, i almost feel bad for them.
>The characters are bland
ep4 is character focused, its not band of brothers but for me it's the best ep so far and sets up ep5 well
>im 30+
Oh tell us your wisdom of wise mid millenial who posts like your writing a letter to the editor
I was here when The Pacific first aired. That is a series that had a lot of bullshit complaints from people who weren't actually watching it. This series has a lot of legitimate complaints from people that are actually watching it. It's not the worst show on earth but most of the complaints put forth by Cinemaphile are legitimate. You are lying to yourself if you think otherwise.
valid complaints such as?
lol. Never ask a zoomer to quantify something... all you'll get is dead air.
>main character get shot down off camera
>filler episode with less than 10 episodes
>monkey pawless Leyte Gulf kino never ever
Twelve O'Clock High was a kino film
had a cool b-17 belly landing scene too
>Buck dies offscreen
I can’t accept it.
Which one was Buck and which one was Bucky?
he's just MIA like crosby
I just re-read what I wrote and I am the tard