2000s digital anime looks soulless and washed-out compared to 90s sovl anime.

2000s digital anime looks soulless and washed-out compared to 90s sovl anime. It's almost like they were tailor-made for their low-res YouTube AMVs with Divx and Unregistered Hypercam.

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  1. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Modern anime is even worse. It's now digital + CGI in every show.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Don't forget overuse of shading and bloom

  2. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Bring me the Key of the Twilight, homosexual.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      BASED

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        AUGURIES OF DESTRUCTION BE YOUR LULLABY FOR REBIRTH

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          CONSOLATIONS BE THERE
          IN MY DREAMLAND TO COME

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            you're done kid, i know that's a sneed.tv filename now

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              I thought I was among friends

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      this is now a Yuki Kajiura thread

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        decent anime but most of the shootouts were moronic
        >girl pops out
        >multiple armed guards stand there surprised and shocked for several seconds not firing at her
        >girl shoots them all

  3. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Fricking hate what's happened to anime between the turn of the millennium and now, what a waste of a fantastic medium

  4. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    .hack//sign was kino and pure soul. Shut the frick up

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      It was. But it looked like garbage like almost every other anime between 2000 and 2010.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      To this day I still have no fricking idea what the actual frick the plot of these stupid games are because they just kept pumping shit out and my parents didn’t love me enough to get me stuff. I only played part 1 and 3

  5. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    japs are moronic. news at 11

  6. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Intro kicks so much ass

    ?si=DNElcriwTUxwiYoa

  7. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    I was watching a mid 90s sailor moon movie last month that was classic cel animation, but at 1 point there was a CGi scene that looked like it was made using a super nintendo

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Jesus fricking Christ please don’t remind me what they keep doing to the corpse of this show

  8. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >It's almost like they were tailor-made for their low-res YouTube AMVs with Divx and Unregistered Hypercam
    You just described soul.

  9. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Digital animation can still look incredible. The problem is untalented artists are the ones working on them. I give early 00's anime a pass because it was a difficult transition to go from cel to digital and hadn't been perfected yet and at least many of the shows that were produced at the time were very good which I can't say the same about now

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      no, you're just a pretentious arthouse homosexual lmao

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        What game of word salad are you even playing. How does "pretentious" and "arthouse" apply to anything I said

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          You like pretty colors not "art". Pretty obvious, your appreciation is on the level of an infant's.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            What you just typed out is called a non-argument

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            sounds like you're the pretentious one

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yes if this guy showed his work here everyone would laugh. Elitists can only complain, they can never create. It is a cursed existence.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      looks like utter shit. kys

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Hating Casshern Sins unironically
        Can't take it seriously

  10. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Most old anime don’t look that good. Movies and OVAs usually have good animation but television shows are basically slide shows, look at the 90s Berserk anime for example, 90% of the action scenes are just still frames of blood spatters. They literally have a word for scenes with good animation because its otherwise mediocre.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Slide show but with a soul. Digital tends to look very boring and flat.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Most old anime don’t look that good. Movies and OVAs usually have good animation but television shows are basically slide shows
      This is a dumb misconception and a form of cherrypicking based on specific scenes from your one example which is Berserk. Believe it or not animation in the 80's and 90's had the highest budgets for television animation in Japan and consistently higher quality animation than any other era for anime. Yes they did cut some corners now and then like they always have including now but to call the programs "slide shows" is idiotic. Characters were always more expressive and there was more movement happening on-screen than there are nowadays in most of the shows that are produced.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Berserk wasn't even a good example especially when you compare it to modern day CGI Berserk which makes the classic look like the greatest show ever made. The 90's show didn't have a huge budget but it made the best out of the money it had. Making artistic decisions to make up for their lack of budget while still putting good animation in there for those in between shots of still frames. Any of it's shortcomings has nothing to do with it being old. It's all about the money that gets put into something.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          I'd rather see iconic Dezaki pastel chalked freeze frame shots in old anime than whenever modern anime is too lazy to properly animate an action sequence and relies on transitioning to ugly ass CGI right in the middle of the action

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          Beautiful colors, lighting, shading. Modern anime lacks all of this.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Slide shows are fine if the cinematography is good. Needing every frame flailing around is a cope from shitty western animation.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        moron

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          he is a moron but not for the reasons you think

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            you don't know what I think

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              i think what you know

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah.
        Shows like Berserk age better than something that tries to be at, say, early Dragonball Z's level but they don't have the staff or money to pull it off.
        That's what limited animation originally was. Better to not animate something than to animate it poorly.
        The old shows from the 70's that really lean in on their art direction and cinematic blocking hold up a lot better than something like your average giant robot fight anime from the same period.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          >The old shows from the 70's that really lean in on their art direction and cinematic blocking hold up a lot better than something like your average giant robot fight anime from the same period.
          This is very true

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            >muh infantile cartoons screenshots
            pathetic really, get a job, help your mom...

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              Who cares? Tranime consumers were never men to begin with.
              It now appeals to a new batch of subhumans, you were supposed to have a nice day...

              >...

  11. 9 months ago
    Anonymous
  12. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Early 2000's anime felt like no one had figured out a computer yet. Like best practices got set back 30 years. I remember discussion on /m/ about the cyborg 009 remaster how like the masters were like <480p.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      I bought that BD because I love that franchise so much and it looks alright for what it is. I think to see anime from that period in HD would actually make it look worse. It's probably for it to be viewed is a lesser quality.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Tried watching it before that release was out and the one place I found it had to have been in 240p. Really do need to give it another shot though, early 2000's had some great revivals of classic stuff, like Tetsujin and Mazinkaiser.
        HD stuff from the era looks fine. Gainer aired less than a year later. It's more that the only copies available of some shows just look like shit.

        ?si=0_e30eUubJOySKKd

  13. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    wait till you see a.i. anime it is TOP quality. here is an actual still from a movie I'm working on.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      It looks exactly like every other piece of AI generated anime art I've seen down to the pseudo 3D look it always has

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      It looks exactly like every other piece of AI generated anime art I've seen down to the pseudo 3D look it always has

      I think it looks cool anon. Are you doing it yourself? What's it called?

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yes the a.i. tools are good enough now. that character is generated off midjourney, and animated through runway.

        It looks exactly like every other piece of AI generated anime art I've seen down to the pseudo 3D look it always has

        That is going to be a challenge going forward to stand out among the a.i. slop.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          >doesn't local generate.
          you ain't no A.I artists, you're a consumer, a hobbyist at best. You will never touch a woman, you have no animation stills, talent, or ideas.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            t.

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              name one thing he did wrong

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                be ugly

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Ahhhh the highlights that don't need to be there. Never change ai.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I'm working on.
      no, you ain't you lying c**t, and AI is still to unstable for animation.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Wrong, I already have completed 5 minutes of the movie and it looks fine.

        >doesn't local generate.
        you ain't no A.I artists, you're a consumer, a hobbyist at best. You will never touch a woman, you have no animation stills, talent, or ideas.

        MJ gives the best results by far.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      looks like shit
      improve

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        WTF you autists talking about. It looks perfect and superior to that which humans have done. Are you just on a crusade against a.i.? Here is another (great) shot from the movie.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          >It looks perfect and superior to that which humans have done
          >post overdesigned yet generic anime girl with no lips and no nose as per usual
          wow so advanced!

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            good morning sir

            All A.I. slop looks the same. It is soulless.

            If I had told you I drew it by hand, you would never have suspected it. You merely hate A.I. because its effortless perfection makes human beings obsolete. Personally, I choose to serve the machine god rather than resist it. It is the only path ahead if you intend to survive the future that is to come. I suggest you do the same.

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              If you told me you drew it by hand I would have called you a liar because you can tell it's obviously AI slop even if you're half blind, Rajesh.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                And to further clarify, I am not intrinsically opposed to AI art and have no particular love for artgays who are at risk at losing their jobs, and while technological advancements in AI technology have been pretty great over the years, they are still not at the point where it looks good. It's like ChatGTP. The first time you see it you can go "Whoa, this is neat.", the tenth time you see a ChatGTP you cringe and can easily tell it's AI written.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >If I had told you I drew it by hand, you would never have suspected it.
                No because it looks like AI generated art, moron. We see it every single day

                Yet you can never define 'good' every example ITT is completely arbitrary. The one autist said the a.i. is bad because the highlight is off. One tiny detail of an entire masterpiece image.

                >>Art has to be bad to be good
                your art will never be Japanese and this more than anything else is the reason why

                It's crazy to me how whenever you call out an indian for a being moronic they never deny it. Is it hubris or shame?

                This is how I know you have no true argument.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                Good and bad is the wrong word. Boring is the word.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                I just got here I hardly ever know what you're arguing about pajeet.

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              it's not perfection, it's gaudy

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                LOL gaudy is a fake criticism...
                >it is... too good. Art has to be bad to be good.

                If you told me you drew it by hand I would have called you a liar because you can tell it's obviously AI slop even if you're half blind, Rajesh.

                Concern trolling

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >>Art has to be bad to be good
                your art will never be Japanese and this more than anything else is the reason why

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >LOL gaudy is a fake criticism...
                >>it is... too good. Art has to be bad to be good.
                Christ allmighty, third worlders really don't hae any semblance of taste and taste in moderation, do they?

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                It all looks the same moron. You keep repeating yourself with the "it's too good" argument whatever the hell that means. Wait a decade before you start jerking off robots for creating mediocre pieces of imagery that looks no different than the rest of the same type of shit. Congrats on creating generic looking anime art wow so rad and totally futuristic. How about you use the technology to create something original instead of mimicking already shitty art styles that are overdone to death.

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              >If I had told you I drew it by hand, you would never have suspected it.
              No because it looks like AI generated art, moron. We see it every single day

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              >If I had told you I drew it by hand, you would never have suspected it.
              Had you told me that i had thought "poor guy, trained his whole life to end up drawing just like an ai"

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          All A.I. slop looks the same. It is soulless.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            >slop
            >souless
            and you want your opinion to be taken seriously

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          I wonder how long it's going to take for AI images to stop looking like they were made by the same person.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Oh AI can use various styles. it's just that the most bland looking style is used usually.

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              it all looks like ass

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                seethe art Black person
                you are obsolete just like those talentless hacks script writers

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              almost all of those are the same style homosexual, only the 2 on the upper right are different.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >fruit-fruit
                >tit-tit

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Does she get fricked in the ass?

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      good morning sir

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      bloody bastard sir genious, boob vagene haver

  14. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    I tried watching baki, overlord and berserk and they are all so fricking terribly animated. What do you even call that type of animation?

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I tried watching baki, overlord and berserk and they are all so fricking terribly animated
      none of these shows were even made around the the same time. How can they even be compared

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Shut up moron computer animated cartoons have been around since before you were born.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Shut up moron computer animated cartoons have been around since before you were born.
          and everyone else here too unless you're literally a pathetic 35+ year old man who still uses Cinemaphile

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            That doesn't help your argument. They all look similar.

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              what the frick are you talking about, no they don't, dipshit. Different shows made during different periods of time, by different studios, and different animators working on them makes them not similar. How the frick does Baki look like Berserk. I don't even know what versions of Baki and Berserk are you talking about. Are we talking early 00's Baki or Netflix Baki. Neither of them look like Overlord or even Berserk.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Talking about computer created animation
                >I don't even know what version you're talking about
                dipshit.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                Both versions of Baki are digital animation,
                dumbass.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                the one that looks like shit then. Never even seen the old one it could look like shit too for all i know.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            >and everyone else here too unless you're literally a pathetic 35+ year old man who still uses Cinemaphile
            Hey brother, I'm that old, just enjoying my breakfast. Don't worry, it will you be you too someday.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yashigani, perhaps
      At least that's more or less the term for shitty, often outsourced animation that needs to be fixed for reruns and home releases.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous
  15. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    .hack is right up there with inuyasha and bleach for animes being single handedly carried by their soundtracks

  16. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    The early-mid 2000s were notorious for its dull color tone

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's just society post-Matrix & 9/11 in general.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Did the matrix 2 and 3 keep the twin towers standing in their shots of nyc? It was supposed to be a 90s program right?

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Looks cool and mature.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      it's funny how someone posted Mushishi and Kino screenshots and i couldn't tell the difference

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      FMA '03 looks and animated better than Brotherhood

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        they are the same shit just slightly different when it comes to visuals.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          Left looks way better here

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            nah right has SOUL

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              Just looks like typical Studio Bones slop

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              if by soul you mean streamlined, sure. Right looks like how Taz from Looney Tunes looked in the 90's and by that I mean genericized. Left is Taz from the 1950's when he still looked like how he is suppose to.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >watch chad basketball anime from the 1990s
                >damn this shit is a masterpiece
                >watch bland mophead cartoony basketball anime in the 2010s
                >why is this shit so fricking gay looking

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                Anime gigachads are indeed things of the past now.
                here's your 2022 deliquents bro

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                I wonder if we'll ever go back to protagonists that look and act like men.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                Who cares? Tranime consumers were never men to begin with.
                It now appeals to a new batch of subhumans, you were supposed to have a nice day...

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >le anime
                I meant in general you buzzword of the month moron

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >oh no no don't hurt my feelings
                >yes I am not gay I have sex with men and relationship with women just like in my tranime

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                There's literally far less gay shit in anime than there are with American animation, objectively speaking.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                tranime

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                Blonde kid to the right literally has Lupin III's face for some reason

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              nah it just looks worse

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              if by soul you mean streamlined, sure. Right looks like how Taz from Looney Tunes looked in the 90's and by that I mean genericized. Left is Taz from the 1950's when he still looked like how he is suppose to.

              nah it just looks worse

              FMA Brotherhood was one of the best Remake and most faithful to the manga.

              Pic related.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          It's ridiculous how better FMA 03 looks even in mundane moments like this.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        they are the same shit just slightly different when it comes to visuals.

        '03 is better in just looks though the pacing is perfect in the first half and Brotherhood acknowledges this by not even trying to match it assuming you already watched '03 which amazes me how many people straight skip it and go into brotherhood right away there missing out.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      its kinda comfy

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      I remember around the same time (maybe a little later) in the PS3 / 360 era everyone complained that their new “realistic” games were full of nothing but dull muted sandy earth tones

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Mid 2000s was the last time they mass produced cool stuff. That's when i stopped watched sesonals. And to think i believed i would watch 3-4 animu very season to the end of my life. I even made sure to avoid smoking and drinking so i won't die too early and do not miss good shows 50 yeas later.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >cherry picking a still frame from a FMA OP

  17. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    KEY OF ZE TWILIGHTO

  18. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    I hate everything after 00s. Anime, movies, music, video games, women, porn magazines all went to shit after 00s.

  19. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >there is an anon here actually defending this

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous
      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Am I supposed to be impressed by this 5 second clip? Theres nothing going on and it still doesn't even look great.

  20. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Doro hedoro is one of the best animated
    “3D anime”s I’ve seen.
    I don’t know how much of it is 3d or not, I know there’s some scenes of the lizard dude where it looks kind of cheap or jarring but for the most part…

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Which given how rough it’s original work sometimes looks it’s a damn miracle.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Japanese 3D animation looks like janky garbage unless it's shit like Lupin III: The First or that Dragon Quest movie. Everything else has horrible clunky framerate that looks awkward when it comes to basic movement. Even what you posted looks horrendous. watch when her hair just completely stops and you can see a shitty looking jitter before it completely has no more movement to it. It's cheaply done.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      For me its Boji

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        I miss when heroes were chads and not children or self inserts

  21. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    I like early 00's anime because it's kind of the wild west of late night anime but I won't lie to you I think they almost all look like shit.

  22. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >posts literal unironic tranime with literal unironic LGBTQIA+ main character
    >no one in the thread calls it out because the only anime Cinemaphile watches are entry level pseudslop and shounenHispanic trash

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      I only fapped to black rose so it's fine.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        why limit yourself when subaru, aura, macha, and bt are right there practically begging for your sperms

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      I only fapped to black rose so it's fine.

      I remember these games being so good when I was a kid, but I never actually watched the anime.
      Do the games still hold up?

  23. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Every anime made before 2010 or so is fricking unwatchable soulless shit

  24. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's crazy to me how whenever you call out an indian for a being moronic they never deny it. Is it hubris or shame?

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      That is call out an a moron being an indian*

  25. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    what's a good anime to watch during the Halloween season

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Hellsing
      Lain

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        >good
        >hellsing
        The fact this is the first thing you could think of makes me these are the only ones you've seen

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          you put me on the spot
          I was stressed

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Baoh
      Shadow
      Jigokudou Reikai Tsuushin
      Call me Tonight
      Vampire Hunter D original
      Devilman 1972
      Cybernetic Guardian
      Puppet Princess
      GeGeGe no Kitaro 1968
      Gakkou no Yuurei
      Devilman OVA
      Shin Megami Tensei Digital Devil Story
      Lily Cat
      Frankenstein
      The Curse of Kazuo Umezu
      Blood Reign Curse of the Yoma
      Twilight of the Dark Master
      Wicked City
      Dracula
      Genocyber
      Kimera
      Judge

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        I also saved all those collages too

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          well don't watch anything then, Black person

  26. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    anyone who hasn't seen every episode of Astro Boy is not a real anime fan.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      I haven't seen astro boy but I read a comic a out Buddha made by the same guy and it was pretty cool.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      All I watch is Astro Boy

  27. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Tranime of all ages look soulless to me. Peak consumerism but aimed for subhumans.

  28. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's weird that anime has tainted the culture so much that now you have zoomers pretending like it was always bad or some dumb shit. Anyone who grew up in the 90's or early 00's knows anime was the most chad shit ever when you were home watching it by yourself. Just because it's shitty now and mainstream doesn't mean you kids know what good taste is

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      They'll never understand what a real chad is.

  29. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    90s were the last hurrah of traditional animation. I miss it.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Redline was and that was late 00's

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Well, I guess, but that was it, and it was the exception more than anything else. There's been nothing like it ever since.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          Redline was and that was late 00's

          Redline was literally something made by 80s ova enthusiast and he admitted he could not find people to animate cool shit because nobody knew how top do it anymore so had to cut corners.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Redline was literally something made by 80s ova enthusiast
            It's odd that you just referred to the legendary Koike as a "80's ova enthusiast" when he's one of the most prestigious animators ever and has been doing this shit since the 80's. That dude was literally the key animator for Wicked City, Ninja Scroll, vampire Hunter D Bloodlust, did the opening to Samurai Champloo among a billion other things, and has recently worked on the the best Lupin III flicks of the past 2 decades.

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              he worked on every great old school OVA

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Vampire Hunter D Bloodlust
              that alone is probably one of if not the most impressive animated film to ever come out of Japan, artistically speaking. If not #1, then easily top 10 for sure along with Akira, a few Ghibli movies, ect..

  30. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    i remember a hot spring episode of dot hack twightlight, i caught it on adult swim late one night when i was young

    for some reason i vividly remember one girl removing a choker/collar before she got in and that was really hot to me

  31. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    ^ Cinemaphile manchild, utterly destroyed

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