I sometimes wonder how many DiC cartoons even had any real lasting relevance besides Inspector Gadget. I like some of their shows and always found the company interesting but I always feel like nobody but oldgays and cartoon enthusiasts will even know who they were besides Gadget and maybe the vidya cartoons they made.
Lasting relevance?
As in still somewhat known or still talked about? Because no one except oldgays and cartoongays would ever care about cartoons that are off the air
They made:
Dennis the Menace, the Real Ghostbusters, The Adventures of Teddy Ruxpin, Alvin and the Chipmunks, Super Mario Brothers Super Show/Zelda, Captain N, Captain Planet, Sonic the Hedgehog cartoons, Madeline, Steet Sharks, Bump in the night, Mummies alive
They may not be timeless classics, but there were some good shows in there.
I hate when younglings act like defunct companies had no impact on anything when in fact they produced hit after hit and impacted the industry forever.
>Fun fact: this series aired for two seasons (1988 and 1989) and was set during the then-future, in the years 2020 and 2021. >That's right kids. The future is now
This made me realize I know nothing of the backstory to how that show got made. Now I have to watch one of those Youtube videos "Everything you didn't know about Captain N".
I sort of like how they gave 80s cartoon character personalities to video game characters that otherwise had no personalities, even if they were corny. Mega Man being a growling midget is especially weird and has stuck with me any time I think of that character in any context.
It was from a different age, where a video game company would just say "frick it just do whatever you want we don't care we make money" instead of handing a 10 thousand page tome of what you can and cannot do with the characters.
The mid 90s put a hard stop to that. I think the first spin off media that the mainline company was overly hands on was Pokemon. That success combined with the rise of the internet meant that most companies didn't bother with American window dressing with any leftovers giving up in the early 2000s
Even Pokemon up until the Johto series was really werid, Japanese, did what ever it felt like episode per episode. When Pokemania happened world wide they realized the series is global and going to be around for a very long time, that's when it got mandated and became dull. Gone was stuff like Garry and his cheer leader squad, realistic guns appearing in episodes. Out there plots like The Island of Gaint Pokemon, Girls/Kids day, Ash dressing up as a girl to get into a gym and then winning the badge cause he saved a Gloom from a fire or Ash getting a badge for making a psycho psychic girl laugh
Around Johto, every episode was "Ash and friends walk down a dirt road and meet some character of the day or a town filled with featured Pokemon and team Rocket tires to take them" until it's time for a gym battle
Sun and Moon/Journeys shook up the anime by making it more of a SoL which is more refreashing than watching Ash lose the league again and again but it's still no where as wild as the Shudo era
Captain N is a standard 80s toy (Nintendo) commercial. It's dumb, but knows it is. It's about the gags and some child-friendly light action, rather than serialized plots or in depth characters. Its biggest sin for most in the modern age is that it at a glance doesn't resemble any of its source materials since the artists and writers would just go off in whatever direction they wanted to make what they felt would be "interesting". For many, you watch it because you like that hokey era of Saturday Morning animation or to see just how little fricks were given by any of the game companies involved. I personally have nostalgia for it, so my view is biased. At very least, you'll probably enjoy the bad guys (as most shows, they're frequently the most entertaining parts).
It was funny, like they were trying to dodge something. It was like "We're not saying we're Nintendo, specifically...but you know what we're talking about, riiiiightt?"
The creators never played the games or knew anything about them , leading to some very interesting concepts.
For example, the Metroid in the captain N universe is a giant bio-mechanical base resembling a brain that's linked to Motherbrain. So basically they just turned Zebes into the death star and called it Metroid.
But then they also somehow know Samus is a woman because in the comics she shows up and flirts with captain N.
>they also somehow know Samus is a woman
To be fair it's the only notable thing about the game. If that twist happened today there would be threads in every board with poltards complaining that Nintendo just tried to indoctrinate kids into becoming trannies.
It's a mix sometimes. There's moments like the Castlevania 3 episode where the entire thing as previously stated is more "someone faxed me the manual and I worked from that". And then you have episodes like "The Trouble With Tetris" where you have a game that seems impossible to make an episode about so they just do whatever works. And then you have stuff like "Quest for the Potion of Power" is a beat-by-beat playthrough of Zelda 2 to about the fourth 5th Palace. >go to town and encounter lady who says "Sorry, I know nothing" >Assist townsfolk, get something that helps you on your quest >journey through a desert where rocks fly through the air in constant bombardment >enter dungeon, encount and defeat first boss Horsehead (only vulnerable on his head) >journey continues >in graveyard full of flying eyeball monsters (Moa), fall into a secret spot to reveal a pathway to the Island Palace >In Island Palace, encounters and defeats a horse riding Iron Knuckle (Rebonak) >episodes final battle is vs a towering robed wizard enemy (in this instance, Ganon) who can only be defeated by reflecting his own magic at him
This means the people making Captain N got farther into Zelda 2 than most actual Zelda fans
The comics were written by different people at Valiant Comics. Ironically they actually did their due diligence, other than fanon such as Link's parents, when the comics referenced the events of Zelda 2 they were accurate with details such as Bagu.
Well, to an extent. I mean, they conflated the two princesses from the first and second games, having it that it was Ganon who put the one Zelda from present day into an "eternal slumber" that Link had to wake her up from (this was how they incorporated and recapped the plot of the second game a throwaway line by Ganon pretending to be Impa).
More so than the parents and Clatia though, I'd say their biggest made up fanon was that anyone who possesses the Triforce of Power without that of Wisdom gets corrupted into a pig. Meanwhile Wisdom and Courage have no drawbacks.
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The comics were also clearly among the references provided to the folks making the CDi games
2 years ago
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Absolutely, the comics and cartoons, hence why the Triforce is multicolored pyramids and not gold triangles.
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And yet Nintendo basically did that anyways by making Ganon start out as the human Ganondorf.
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Well yes, and it's possible Nintendo took the idea from them (it does seem like Toad was originally meant to be a maid to the princess until the American Mario cartoon popularized him as a dude), but it wasn't having the Triforce of Power that made him evil (though it might have enabled the animorph, I guess).
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Nintendo's basically conflated the Triforce of Power with evil themselves by making Ganon its only consistent solo wielder. And honestly the "You need Wisdom to wield Power properly" and the Triforce of Courage briefly abandoning Link thing isn't too far off from what Nintendo ended up doing with the "Only a balanced heart can claim the full Triforce without it splitting off into its aspects" thing years later anyways.
Really, I'm not gonna begrudge "The Power and The Price" for filling in its own blanks on Triforce mechanics when it ended up being oddly prescient of what Nintendo did anyway and also for being the best written story to come out of the "Early Zelda Spinoffs by Burgers" period.
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Honestly the "huh, that's a funny coincidence (or IS it?)" that's Zelda related to me was that Ganon had the spiky skullcap in the Zelda cartoon first, then it worked its way back onto game Ganon later starting with his appearances in Oracles/Four Swords/Link Between Worlds.
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Good points yes. I guess I just don't like the idea of establishing that the power part messes you up no matter who you are and what your morals and values are. I suppose it's very possible Nintendo saw what they did and said "That's not bad, but let's tweak it so it's about balancing it in general not just counterbalacing this one part".
Honestly the "huh, that's a funny coincidence (or IS it?)" that's Zelda related to me was that Ganon had the spiky skullcap in the Zelda cartoon first, then it worked its way back onto game Ganon later starting with his appearances in Oracles/Four Swords/Link Between Worlds.
Excellent observation, of course the shape of the cap is closer to the official art from the previous games. Question is, who added the spikes, Nintendo or Capcom?
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>Question is, who added the spikes, Nintendo or Capcom?
Yusuke Nakano, an artist that works for Nintendo (well right now he's more like a general director of the art division, he had to ask a lot to let him do art for TPHD since he wanted to make art again) is credited as the character designer for the Oracle characters, including Ganon and the unused Ganondorf for it.
He also had a one-sided arguement with Miyamoto over Link's nose in the Oracle games (one sided because the account given in Art and Artifacts was that Nakano tried to explain the reasoning behind his Oracle Link and Miyamoto was upset he no longer had the funny ALttP nose).
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>they conflated the two princesses from the first and second games
To be fair, this is a perfectly understandable mistake.
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If you don't have the manual then yes, easy mistake to make, especially with the first princess being absent and not mentioned in the second game.
There's one big mistake: Link turned 16 at the beginning of the second game, years after the first, he was a child during that one. Of course I suppose they could be trying to be in line with the cartoon, in which he's told about the Triforce when he's already in his mid-teens.
Princess Lana, original character for the show but a lot of evidence points to her being what may have been at one point an interpretation of Palutena. There's been concept art discovered since that looked less like Palutena's design, so it's anyone's guess how much or little the Kid Icarus manual art went into her ultimately.
And because it emphasizes what kind of show this is, here's some premises for never made episodes: just the creative team spitballing some ideas for interesting ways to burn 22 minutes.
They were really planning on making episodes out of games based on already established properties. And I thought the episode featuring the Toei mascot was pushing the envelope.
Jesus Imagine if these shows continued for another year or two. I couldn't imagine this shit happening at the same time as Megaman X or Castlevania 4. Honestly the SNES killed a lot of these DIC cartoons with Sonic being the only one who thrived
>Sonic >thrived >all his cartoons die in time for Sonic 3 >finally comes back to cartoons in time to hype up the Dreamcast and Sonic Adventure >it's fricking Sonic Underground
It's mind boggling that Sonic Underground was such a relic when it came out in 1999. Compare that failure to Nintendo's strangle hold over Pokemon's production to massive success and it's clear sometimes you need to put people on a leash
A lot of these scripts are just terrible because they're just generic plots that could be slapped onto just about any cartoon like Captain N.
Like the N-Babies episode >tmnt
Shredder and Krang make a ray that turns the turtles and Splinter and April minus Michelangelo into babies, and now Mikey has to take care of them. Baby Splinter is a brat. April has a crush on Mikey. Raph is really playful. Leo has toy katanas. Donnie is constantly getting into trouble.
Shit is gay. The worst episodes of Captain N were these generic ass episodes. The whole appeal of the series was Captain N visiting new game worlds like Bayou Billy, and kids watching the show would either go yay I've played that game or wow I want to play that game now. I get that licensing is a pain but the alternative was filling Captain N with shit episodes.
That's how a lot of old tv shows in general worked; reruns weren't as accessible so at worst a viewer might think an episode seemed familiar from another show, and even more anything goes with kids media. Like
>taking an existing script and rewriting it for TMNT
David Wise is that you
jokes, some writers were infamous for reusing plots.
I get that it was common practice but that doesn't make it a good thing. If they absolutely have to recycle plots and ideas, they could have at the very least shoehorned a video game in.
>Shredder and Krang make a ray that turns the turtles and Splinter and April minus Michelangelo into babies, and now Mikey has to take care of them. Baby Splinter is a brat. April has a crush on Mikey. Raph is really playful. Leo has toy katanas. Donnie is constantly getting into trouble.
There was a lot less established about how the collections of huge blocks 'acted' in the games back then.
For example, Mario is a plumber from Brooklyn right? Nope, in the official anime tie in he was a grocery store owner from Kyoto. Fans came up with that plumber shit and Nintendo ran with it.
Arcade Mario Bros is where all that plumber shit came from and riding on the heels of "Mario the Construction Worker" stuff within Donkey Kong and Wrecking Crew. The idea of Mario being a New Yorker is basically Nintendo of America flexing that they beat Universal in the "Donkey Kong is a ripoff of King Kong" lawsuit.
Never heard of Mario being from Brooklyn being a fan thing, its more like Nintendo of America thought of him as an Italian american guy, since they're are stereotypically associated with jobs like construction and blue collar jobs back then, as well as living in New York or Philadelphia.
>Never heard of Mario being from Brooklyn being a fan thing, its more like Nintendo of America thought of him as an Italian american guy, since they're are stereotypically associated with jobs like construction and blue collar jobs back then, as well as living in New York or Philadelphia.
Didn't Nintendo of America give him the name Mario in the first place? It's not like Nintendo was unwilling to accept stuff from NoA. Otherwise he'd still be Jumpman.
They might not have even had the sprite to go off and merely were given a description of "blue wizard" or something. The Castlevania 3 episode really feels like someone who read the Castlevania 3 manual at most and took everything to its most literal conclusion >Alucard is Dracula's rebellious teenage son >the Poltergeist King, a character invented solely for the manual, is a major player for the episode >the most literal interpretation of "Simon whips a candle and a powerup comes out"
I don't know what that was, but I was really hoping when the van fell through space that Kevin would get out of it, 37 years old and 80lbs overweight with the zapper still around his waist excited to be back in video game land.
I like how by season 3 DiC completely stopped giving a frick thanks to NBC slashing their budget. Not only was the animation a huge downgrade, but episodes had to alternate between Mega Man and Simon to avoid paying Capcom and Konami at the same time. I think Game Boy stopped appearing too.
let's be glad Fire Emblem and its sequels/spinoffs never arrived to States at the time. If Captain N had an SNES and DiC actually played the games, they'd be horrified. Genocide and incest this side of GoT
I wish Fire Emblem was in because I want to see how they wouldve handled Marth. Something tells me he wouldve been something like a king arthur look-a-like
"How would modern characters be in Captain N" is a tricky question to answer earnestly. Many decisions were made due to the times themselves. The characters predate things like voice acting, in game cutscenes, even high resolution art. It's easy to look even at a manual that has an image the size of a postage stamp that looks like this and get it wrong. Less so a character who starts talking the minute they're on screen and has a full color art the bigger than a computer monitor.
So, they looked at blurry pixels on a broken TV, made guesswork of the images in the manual, and then added their own 80s Saturday-Morning cartoon cliches onto the characters and called it a day?
I was thinking that Marth would be a total narcissistic ponce pining for Lana like Brock(to the dismay of Simon and Caeda), Sonic and Dante wouldn't be changed at all, but they would play up Demifiend as a depressed loner guy riddled with tattoos working for the devil. Jack Frost wouldn't be changed at all, but would be treated like a cartoon mascot with Hee-Ho as his verbal tic, and Crono would either be treated as a silent protagonist or a spiky-haired dude with a big appetite and lightning powers who travels through time with Lucca(which would be interpreted as a Velma clona).
If Wai-Wai World ever made it stateside, there would've definitely been an episode dedicated to it.
It's a shame that Nintendo never got the memo from Konami and made a game out of Captain N.
In one particular instance, accuracy would be forbidden even if they could: Pero from the NES game Puss'n Boots. The game is part of a series games (almost entirely released in Japan) that are based on the anime film series... an anime film series animated by Toei, who even went on to make Pero their company mascot and logo. I can assure you, Captain N was never animated by Toei, so another studio drawing their mascot could have made heads roll if he was even recognizable.
But here's a "what if" for you: Ganondorf, BUT they never realize it's the same character as the pig wizard. So the show makes him Ganon's brother for plenty of villainous "mom always liked YOU more!" squabble as he teams up with Ganon... and takes the "dorf" part of the name to stretch for a cheesy Dolph Lundgren/Arnold Schwarzenegger impression and caricature.
Missed opportunity to put him in Smash Ultimate >He's not a video game character
Shut up homosexual he's video game adjacent.
They had Megaman, Pit, and Simon Belmont it would've been the perfect reunion. At least a Mii costume or something.
That didn't stop them adding shit like Little Mac who was only popular in America. Nearly all Japanese players complained it was a waste of a character because they had no idea who the frick he was.
Lots of dialogue and character interactions and choices that can effect things.
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You get to frick the girls in it while inserting yourself as the MC, either as boy or girl.
Its why awakening is super popular despite being one of the worst FE's.
That didn't stop them adding shit like Little Mac who was only popular in America. Nearly all Japanese players complained it was a waste of a character because they had no idea who the frick he was.
Minecraft Steve got in because all the trolls overvoted for him in the ballot. Yet everyone is happy for it.
>Minecraft Steve got in because all the trolls overvoted for him in the ballot. Yet everyone is happy for it.
It's the most popular game ever. I promise you trolls had nothing to do with it, and it was just every little YouTube watching zoomie voting for it 1000 times each.
They're legally obligated after a lawsuit involving Ubisoft I believe for fake marketing showing their games running off dev PCs rather than the actual consoles.
Duck Hunt is actually a trio with the third being a human wielding a NES Zapper.
So Captain N could already be in Smash if he was meant to be the stand in for the player.
A Nintendo crossover cartoon in the 80s could've been so fricking cash but the characters hadn't really been established and the animators didn't give a frick. You can tell the moment they ran out of ideas and just started making generic 'Baseball' game episodes
the tv they had was literally the wrong color. Remember that the companies gave them NOTHING to work with, someone had to fricking rent the game to show the design team.
I think having the characters in your video game show actually look like the video game characters and actually using the protagonist of the game you took your main villain from is a pretty low and reasonable bar to clear that Captain N's staff wasn't able to.
Pre 90s, trans and homosexual was considered funny, which was why you saw shit like Bugs Bunny dressing in drag. 90s cartoons didn't show cross dressing to be pandering, they did it to laugh at them.
And will still be.
Because how the FRICK can the cartoon forget about samus aran, but keep mother brain?
The fricking comics had her! There's no excuse, the creators couldn't been THAT moronic to forget her.
>But then again everyone looks like a train wreck so dodged the bullet.
Depends >If they thought Samus a robot, anything on the table >if they thought Samus was a man, something goofy and perhaps based on the sprite (gangly Dirk the Daring proportions?) >if they thought Samus was a woman, 10/10 babe-a-rama
Samus of course. What are you, crazy? Who would want to hitch themselves to some antiquated idea of inherited position rather than a woman who worked herself up from nothing into the nightmares of pirates around the galaxy?
I'd say I would want a reboot of Captain N
But with all the IP shit floating around I'm scared they'd frick it up even worse by being a bunch of half baked references to the games while offering nothing of actual substance
That's what we WANT it to be, but all tht depends on if the people in charge give a shit, and let's be straight here other mediums often don't give a shit about video games.
I thought it was a real pitch but was rejected for unknown reasons. I think the design would look better if she had a letterman's jacket with disk-kun on it. >other mediums often don't give a shit about video games.
That's true. The only one that seemed to give a shit was Wreck-it Ralph and even that was ruined with a sequel that completely ignored video games and went for internet memes instead.
Im kind of not into "the hero's a grill now wow!!!" if only because we have had like six identical female led isakeis. The kevin/lana duo is also a pretty solid main character team for interacting with vidizens.
>we have had like six identical female led isakeis
That's way too much. What we need is even more male led isekais, because a bajillion just isn't enough.
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>What we need is even more male led isekais, because a bajillion just isn't enough
That's not enough. Just change the name and keep the design and personality the same for every character.
It IS a real pitch anon, but that depended on a few things on them being views, and while respectable aren't gonna motivate and studios to pick it up any time soon
Also Nintendo really doesn't fricking trust anybody with their IPs, and that depends on how well the Mario movies does critically and finanically.
Capcom and Konami have no standards, and Sega is easy enough to get on board as well. But other companies will be like herding cats.
Smash Bros had to get three games and millions of dollars in sales to get the trust of third party IP. If it's not a big name western studio you better be damn sure they're gonna watch it like a hawk, if they even allow certain IP in the first place.
And even then, I have my doubts because again, most people in other mediums don't respect games enough to give them their due respect. It's slightly better when it comes to animation, but again it needs to be the right people.
>and Sega is easy enough to get on board as well.
True, but Sega is also the company that says "we mandate Sonic can't show too MUCH emotion" and other ridiculous character rules that we openly know about.
>most people in other mediums don't respect games enough to give them their due respect.
I don't think that's the case anymore; big moves especially take a ton of influence from games now, the difference is they aren't necessarily looking to use specific games for adaptations. The people making media these days are people in their 20s-50's who all grew up with video games at this point, and many of them still play. The thing is normies don't get as attached to the lore of things as more obsessive people do. I mean look at a game like grand theft auto, a normie as frick game that comedians in their 30s and 40's were talking about back as early as the 2000's. That sort of open world, do what you want fantasy has been influential in movies, but many of the people who played it can barely remember the storyline.
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Look the current Resident Evil movies/tv shows and tell me people respect games as a medium now.
Just because it's known doesn't mean its respected. The ONLY western made movie I've seen give even the slightest amount of the respect to the series is Sonic and the fans had to throw a shitfit for them to listen because they were going to frick it the first time
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>Look the current Resident Evil movies/tv shows and tell me people respect games as a medium now.
I had no idea they even made a new Resident Evil movie; the last one before that was 7 years ago, hardly new. While it may seem like the storylines aren't respected, and I'd agree, the point is more that gays are a respected medium even if franchises themselves aren't. action movie direction is largely influenced by video game action now. Horror movies are paced like horror games. The fantasy genre has been changed by stuff like warcraft getting immensely popular.
I should have been more active in my searching when someone would post up production stuff on ebay. I slacked and now they don't really appear much anymore.
said you're better off compiling screenshots. There's a panning shot of Lana from the first episode that gets cited a lot, and her model sheet pose got used for promotional art (you'll recognize it because it has the staff she actually never uses in the show)
Zelda herself doesn't get any full body panning shots the way Lana got to enjoy, so she's the more difficult character to work with.
Also Lana technically does use have the staff, but it only appears in late Season 2 episode "Having a Ball" where it bizarrely is used alongside a design that is her non-standard character model so it's even more weird it showed up at all.
>Oh hello Inkling-chan. >H-Herro Captain N-dono... >UHHHHGGGHHH TAKE IT TAKE IT YOU b***hHHHH >Oh Captain N-samaaaaaa your big Amelican wiener too rarge aiiiiieeeeeeee
>OG show >Everyone fricking hates him >He knows this, takes it in stride >Is secretly jealous of N and the gang and trains to be better than them >Begrudgingly helps them out of a few scrapes
>Animatic >wienery as shit, doesn't understand why a little girl gets to wield ultimate power >Thinks everyone hates him, but no one really pays him any mind. >Girl tries to show him that he isn't hated anymore, this leads to them butting heads.
If there were an episode set in Sonic’s world, would it be AoStH, SatAM, or something else?
Also, taking into account that Videoland is located inside a Nintendo system, wouldn’t that mean there exists a SEGA Genesis Videoland? Do cross-platform characters get passes or something?
That's because she wasn't Roll. She was Mega Girl. The people who made the series had no clue Roll existed. Their exposure to Mega Man was literally playing the first two games for like an hour on a tv that was busted, hence why he came out green.
To be fair it was easy for nobody to know Roll existed. She went unnamed in anything until the ending of Megaman 3, and gets an off-screen namedrop in Megaman 4's opening text. It's almost easy to have believed at the time that Roll was a creation of the Ruby Spears cartoon, since the character didn't do ANYTHING in a game until Megaman 7 (and even had her role reduced in the US version). Even Nintendo Power knew she existed but still thought she didn't exist.
So Mega is sad he is not human, gets this b***h as a gift, then goes through a test to become human. Passes it, is human now but this robo b***h as well for no reason!?
This bigfoot photo is an early promotional image featuring in-development designs. Lana, Simon, and Kevin are the most changed, though Megaman has proportions closer to Fil Barlow's interpretation from the "Buddy Body" era of concept art.
This one is much closer to final, though Kevin and Lana are still not there. Lana's got the "Palutena evocative" design we know but her hair was closer to the final in the previous image. Duke is entirely different. The biggest change is the background itself: presumably if that is the Palace of Power, it's far more like a traditional castle than the abstract building it would become. Clever design in the rolling "computer chip" crop hills though.
You know, I like the backgrounds in the DiC shows. Barring the more grounded Legend of Zelda cartoon, they just infused some real interesting design into things like Captain N, Mario, and Sonic.
Checking the episode, they're consistent to the inconsistency: that is, depending on the pose and angle, Ganon's hands either will have the strap or it will disappear, as the model sheet suggests.
>Checking the episode, they're consistent to the inconsistency: that is, depending on the pose and angle, Ganon's hands either will have the strap or it will disappear, as the model sheet suggests.
one of the lesser known powers granted by the Triforce of Power
Yeah, I've seen it in other things of the time. For instance, Blitzwing in Transformers has his head sorta in a purple "collar" from the front, but from the back it's yellow. The animators will just go "oh well it's what the model sheet says" so when the angle changes (for an example: Transformers the Movie when he flies away from Optimus Prime) they just have his head change color because the model sheet said that's what it's supposed to do.
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It takes all hands to make animation error, and sometimes that means following the guide is the error.
There have been. Off the top of my head, there was a really popular doujin that was about a fan of Dragonball who gets transported to Dragonball world as Yamcha. At first he curses the fact that he's Yamcha because Yamchu sucks, but then he decides to use his fan knowledge of the series to make Yamcha a really powerful character. I think he winds up killing Nappa and holds his own against Vegeta when they arrive. It goes through other sagas as well. It was a pretty good read.
There have been. Off the top of my head, there was a really popular doujin that was about a fan of Dragonball who gets transported to Dragonball world as Yamcha. At first he curses the fact that he's Yamcha because Yamchu sucks, but then he decides to use his fan knowledge of the series to make Yamcha a really powerful character. I think he winds up killing Nappa and holds his own against Vegeta when they arrive. It goes through other sagas as well. It was a pretty good read.
Actually the closest thing you could say to Captain N that Japan ever got was Bug*ette Honey, a cartoon loosely based on the NES game Adventure Island. It's a gag filled series that features regular kids falling into a video game world that operates under video game logic, their running into and teaming up with Genjin Takahashi as they constantly have to deal with the evil schemes of King Kyura (who you might recognize as the first boss of the game). Cameos and references to other video games happen throughout, most other Hudson games, some not.
Was successful enough to have a big screen movie, and Hudson even went and completed the loop and made a game based on the show (it's not a good game).
the only reason i know this show exists is because an autistic kid in the background of a louis theroux documentary had an extensive live-action fan series based on it. it's not online any more, but sometimes you can find people posting gifs from it as reactions.
People shit on Captain N for "getting the characters wrong" but I miss the days when there weren't wikis for every single fricking cartoon, where the "canon" of some fricking video game didn't matter, and writers were free to interpret shit.
Bit disappointed they never did a crossover with Super Mario given DiC had the license and made a Super Mario cartoon. The Zelda crossovers were good.
>where the "canon" of some fricking video game didn't matter >videogame adaptations >canon mattering
Wut even today the game's canon doesn't matter to the people making the adaptations
>video game didn't matter, and writers were free to interpret shit.
They still do, why do you think the Castlevania cartoon was shit? Trevor was in vis basement a whole season and instead we got vampire politics far more boring than Star Wars' space politics.
>a kid gets sucked into the nintendoverse through their switch >end up running into Kevin who's now grown a beard and is long past believing he can go back home >kid has to teach Kevin how to be Captain N again by telling him about all the new Nintendo tech out there and how to use it, like using the wii fit balance board like a hoverboard
Modern Nintendo is an unrecognizable monstrosity and has been ever since Iwata died and the last vestiges of his influence disappeared with the rise of Furukawa Daimao. All they care about now is coasting on the bare minimum, which they not only get away with, but thrive on, due to the actual cult they have. They don't even have a PR division because their fans vehemently defend their every transgression and pay them boatloads of money to continue exploiting them. While they're tentatively spearheading an offensive into multimedia projects for the first time in some 30 years, they have never been less inclined to make something like Captain N. Illumination is their animation studio of choice, for God's sake. They're going to make Mario so safe that Mickey Mouse is going to look like The Punisher in comparison.
Don't mind me, I'm just posting good animated shorts with proper characterization of the videogame characters. Completely baffled how Japs can make CGI animation this good but suck at TV series.
Annoys me to no end how 80's cartoon podcast hosts always call it "Captain Nintendo". Pretty sure they were specifically forbidden from saying "nintendo".
At least they were thinking, unlike Acclaim when they made The Power Team. >what if we made Captain N but used only Acclaim characters >and all of our characters had the same generic "is a protagonist" nice guy personality >and we set it in the REAL WORLD removing the only interesting element that Captain N has when you take away the big name Nintendo aspect
But hey at least the characters are accurate so 10/10 best video game cartoon ever made right?
That was broadcasted along with the original Donkey Kong cartoon wasn't it? The one in which Pauline was Mario's niece instead of his girlfriend.
I'd like to watch that again one of these days, just to see how good/bad it really was (I was too young for my memories to allow for an objective opinion), but I haven't been able to find it on-line.
No, it was in the game show Video Power, where kids played games for points, then at the end of the show, one kid got to run through a maze of videogames and velcro games to himself in a timed run. What YOU'RE thinking of is a show that ran on NBC every Saturday morning in...I think 1985-86 (the same time years The Jackson 5 and Gary Coleman cartoons were also on NBC), Saturday Supercade, a bunch of shows based on arcade games: Q-bert, Donkey Kong, Pac-Man, Kangaroo, and Mario Bros. Two different game series per week, each lasting 13 or so minutes per ep.
Ah, my mistake. But wait, there was a Mario Bros, not Super, cartoon? I remember there were both Donkey Kong and Donkey Kong Jr. but that one would be news to me. Makes me even more curious.
>But wait, there was a Mario Bros, not Super, cartoon?
No, just Donkey Kong. Mario was Peter Cullen.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Fun fact: Cullen doesn't even remember he did the show, and has so little interest in video games as a whole he doesn't know Mario went on to be something bigger.
2 years ago
Boco
Well, understandable considering his other roles went on to be way more important.
2 years ago
Anonymous
They really aren't, Mario is 2nd only to Mickey Mouse in famous fictional characters now.
2 years ago
Boco
I mean for him. He's gotten way more fame, recognition and money for Optimus and Eeyore than he ever did as Mario.
I think the saddest part is that only 80's kids who liked Nintendo and were in college by the early 00's remember or care about Captain N, they used to make articles on their personal websites or videos in the pre-monetization era of YouTube.
90's kids onwards don't care. It ended up having a minimal cultural impact.
i always felt it was weird how little cartoons from the 70s on got reruns
its like if you werent on hanna-barbera's a-list you got tossed in the gutter. the only exception i can think of offhand is the beetlejuice cartoon. that played in reruns on several networks, broadcast and cable, for a long while
The strangest case to me is the 80'sNinja Turtles cartoon. It lasted 9 years, was getting new episodes until like 97, then it ends and never got rerun again.
Heh. >Captain N various games worlds >Ends up in Metro City fighting the Mad Gear >Run and Guns in Metal Slug >Sneaks with Snake >Quips with Duke Nukem >Fights Geese Howard >Time Traveling with Chrono >Dealing with Eve with Aya Brea
You could not do this show now, because Mother Brain is the main antagonist, and it would HAVE to be an accurate portrayal. The problem with that is Metroid is more overtly dark and gritty compared to the rest of Nintendo's lineup. Picture the Space Pirates fricking up the Mushroom Kingdom. The execs would never allow it.
I used to have this in higher quality well over a decade ago if I recall correctly. It had a companion piece with blue Mega Man and Lana instead of Palutena.
I'll never really get over Gameboy. Not that I find him that terrible as a character (you can't really bring down the quality of Captain N in that way), but more that everyone's some fanciful design interpretation that was focused on injecting character into 8x16 pixels... and then Gameboy is Literally Just A Gameboy With A Dot Matrix Face. I know FIl Barlow drew some concepts that at least gave him something unique, but that the character wound up how he did is just kind of... weak.
But what if Kevin was the Villain, planning on an ultimate reboot to restore the Video game world to the way he remembered it before Casual gamers like the new Captain N changed it. A Gen x'er trying to keep the last bit of childhood he has, as he hits 40.
What do you mean change, he didn't change. The world around him changed. He only wants things to go back to the way things were, the way Nintendo land used to be before it became what it is today.
If you don't die a hero you live long enough to be a villain.
I like the concept but feel sad it will never have a chance of happening ever. It could make for a good webcomic or series of animatics but even that would be a stretch if he actually wants it to have a chance of being made. One of the comments say he’s working on other pitches too, so it doesn’t seem like a high priority.
Who owns Captain N?
Nintendo or whoever owns DIC?
IIRC when the DVDs came out they had to ask for permission to Nintendo to release it.
Normally shows are owned by someone and it doesn't matter who owns the IP they can release it since they own it like say the 87 TMNT cartoon but here it seems like Nintendo might actually own the characters.
Good question. Wild Brain, formerly Cookie Jar, own all of DiC's assets and they officially uploaded DiC's owned cartoons so they have stuff like the Super Show, Sonic cartoons and Captain N officially on YouTube, but not The Real Ghostbusters due to Sony owning the rights of that show.
But that complicated matter further: Does this mean the ad revenue gets split among themselves, Nintendo, Capcom, Konami and whichever guest third party is used? They DID used to have the 90's Mega Man cartoon too but got removed a year or two ago as the licence expired and Capcom wasn't interested on renewing, allegedly.
Nintendo Japan let Nintendo of America do what they want in the 80s/early 90s as long as they got good money and NOA like any american company would license their characters for anything. Eventually in the mid 90s Japan got stricter and stricter which is why there was a drought of nintendo licensed things between the 90s until the late 00's.
It wasn't until the late Wii/Wii U Era that their slower sales lead to them finding other revenue sources and Iwata stated they would look into licensing more. This is why we started getting more licensed stuff like figmas and companies making more mario merch/whatnot. This is also when they stated they wanted their properties to be movies and shows, we've gotten pilots like the Kid Icarus shorts, the Pikmin shorts by Miyamoto and even the star fox one so they'd been playing with the idea until they finally went with that Mario movie. If that Mario movie is a huge success you can bet your ass Nintendo will be more license friendly with movies and shows again.
So perhaps, and just perhaps someone could pitch them a renewed Captain N/Smash hybrid and Nintendo could say yes. It's not likely but it's likelier than it's ever been in say the last two decades for a Captain N revival. Of course a Smash cartoon seems more likely than a Captain N one but whatever.
I guess if they are able to upload the show then that means they do own the show outright. The actual character might be owned by Nintendo since he did appear in Nintendo Power first in a way.
Similar to how Fred Wolf owns the original 1987 TMNT cartoon but Nick (since they bought Mirage) own the actual characters from the show.
I do remember that shout factory had to get their Packaging of their DVDs by Nintendo, who knows why.
IIRC Shout Factory is a division of Wild Brain (if I'm wrong, feel free to correct me) so probably Nintendo still retains some leverage over Kevin Keene, Duke and Lana.
>only two seasons on youtube >can’t find the third season >can’t search through Cinemaphile archives because it brings up mega man
I wish companies would make this stuff easier to watch
Third season is attached to Super Mario World.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLySo2SlSHPSPsMPvx3vXPmReAe05Vro9H
Keep in mind this is was before the axe fully swung down on NBC cartoons, so the animation is complete garbo, even by Captain N standards, and Mother Brain and Ham and Eggs barely show up.
Good thread, everyone. Remember, Captain N will never truly be forgotten so long as it lives rent-free in the heads of zoomers who seethe that it isn't the Smash Bros cartoon they can't have.
I grew up in the 90s so I never caught any of the DIC Nintendo cartoons and didn't get to watch them until early youtube in 2005 or so. I found them neat for what they were but it was Captain N that I fell in love with, I loved the concept and even if they got things wrong just seeing those games interpreted in animation was cool.
Weird that Captain N never crossed over with Mario counting they even shared a block and Zelda did crossover.
Emphasis on were since Nintendo later decided to establish (*cough*retcon*cough*) that Mario and Luigi were never from a different world than the Mushroom Kingdom and that the early DK games simply took place in a more modern looking part of it (dunno where Mario's accent comes from, did he grow up among Piantas?).
Terrible decision in my opinion, long live Brooklyn Mario.
I'm too young for that shit and the other DIC cartoons.
I want to punch you for making me feel old, punk.
lol ok boomer
You gays gonna kiss?
You're awfully eager. Why, you wanna watch?
Perhaps
I sometimes wonder how many DiC cartoons even had any real lasting relevance besides Inspector Gadget. I like some of their shows and always found the company interesting but I always feel like nobody but oldgays and cartoon enthusiasts will even know who they were besides Gadget and maybe the vidya cartoons they made.
I had to watch Liberty Kids during history in school
Lasting relevance?
As in still somewhat known or still talked about? Because no one except oldgays and cartoongays would ever care about cartoons that are off the air
They made:
Dennis the Menace, the Real Ghostbusters, The Adventures of Teddy Ruxpin, Alvin and the Chipmunks, Super Mario Brothers Super Show/Zelda, Captain N, Captain Planet, Sonic the Hedgehog cartoons, Madeline, Steet Sharks, Bump in the night, Mummies alive
They may not be timeless classics, but there were some good shows in there.
I hate when younglings act like defunct companies had no impact on anything when in fact they produced hit after hit and impacted the industry forever.
I want books to learn more about tv animation, but it’s hard to learn about tv companies especially when most books are just about film animation.
>He will never know the joy of hearing DIC over and over
Poor guy.
DIC cartoons are comfy as hell
I need to get back to watching COPS.
I distinctly remember an episode where this group of guys goes into a party shop and buys a bunch of masks, then leaves.
Literally thirty seconds later they store back into the store, not wearing those masks, and rob the place.
Even the cartoon cashier was like 'Am I being punked?'
"The Case of Berserko's Big Surprise". Berserko is not a smart boy.
>Fun fact: this series aired for two seasons (1988 and 1989) and was set during the then-future, in the years 2020 and 2021.
>That's right kids. The future is now
Well shit.
>le comfy
Frick off
It was an actual cartoon? I only remember Captain N from the Nintendo Power magazine.
It only loosely resembles those prose stories.
tee hee.... dic
Dic did some good shit (and a lot of bad shit). Suggest you hit up kim's place.
Nobody actually watches these cartoons they just complain about the designs being different
DIC got me into Tokusatsu with Superhuman Samurai Syber Squad.
Damn, Princess Lana looks like THAT?
Literally no, she does not.
>axel rosered
He's the BEST!
>Axel Rosered
Where's the inflation pic
Moviebob and Andrew Dobson still think Captain N is canon.
This made me realize I know nothing of the backstory to how that show got made. Now I have to watch one of those Youtube videos "Everything you didn't know about Captain N".
I sort of like how they gave 80s cartoon character personalities to video game characters that otherwise had no personalities, even if they were corny. Mega Man being a growling midget is especially weird and has stuck with me any time I think of that character in any context.
It was from a different age, where a video game company would just say "frick it just do whatever you want we don't care we make money" instead of handing a 10 thousand page tome of what you can and cannot do with the characters.
The mid 90s put a hard stop to that. I think the first spin off media that the mainline company was overly hands on was Pokemon. That success combined with the rise of the internet meant that most companies didn't bother with American window dressing with any leftovers giving up in the early 2000s
Even Pokemon up until the Johto series was really werid, Japanese, did what ever it felt like episode per episode. When Pokemania happened world wide they realized the series is global and going to be around for a very long time, that's when it got mandated and became dull. Gone was stuff like Garry and his cheer leader squad, realistic guns appearing in episodes. Out there plots like The Island of Gaint Pokemon, Girls/Kids day, Ash dressing up as a girl to get into a gym and then winning the badge cause he saved a Gloom from a fire or Ash getting a badge for making a psycho psychic girl laugh
Around Johto, every episode was "Ash and friends walk down a dirt road and meet some character of the day or a town filled with featured Pokemon and team Rocket tires to take them" until it's time for a gym battle
Sun and Moon/Journeys shook up the anime by making it more of a SoL which is more refreashing than watching Ash lose the league again and again but it's still no where as wild as the Shudo era
its basically what parents think of their children's video game characters but made into a show.
Is that good or a bad thing? The intro to this show makes it look awful
Captain N is a standard 80s toy (Nintendo) commercial. It's dumb, but knows it is. It's about the gags and some child-friendly light action, rather than serialized plots or in depth characters. Its biggest sin for most in the modern age is that it at a glance doesn't resemble any of its source materials since the artists and writers would just go off in whatever direction they wanted to make what they felt would be "interesting". For many, you watch it because you like that hokey era of Saturday Morning animation or to see just how little fricks were given by any of the game companies involved. I personally have nostalgia for it, so my view is biased. At very least, you'll probably enjoy the bad guys (as most shows, they're frequently the most entertaining parts).
We got surfer dude Alucard.
So true
I loved the shit out of cartoon Link from that era
I miss the annotated series like you can't imagine.
It was funny, like they were trying to dodge something. It was like "We're not saying we're Nintendo, specifically...but you know what we're talking about, riiiiightt?"
I would say bad seeing as how most of the characters are really moronic versions of themselves
Only if you go in expecting characterization that wouldn't exist until later.
This. So much this.
>they only maybe read the manual
My dude, that's all there WAS to read back then.
It was really bad.
I'm not even sure where Simon's design is from. It's not even close.
The creators never played the games or knew anything about them , leading to some very interesting concepts.
For example, the Metroid in the captain N universe is a giant bio-mechanical base resembling a brain that's linked to Motherbrain. So basically they just turned Zebes into the death star and called it Metroid.
But then they also somehow know Samus is a woman because in the comics she shows up and flirts with captain N.
>they also somehow know Samus is a woman
To be fair it's the only notable thing about the game. If that twist happened today there would be threads in every board with poltards complaining that Nintendo just tried to indoctrinate kids into becoming trannies.
It's a mix sometimes. There's moments like the Castlevania 3 episode where the entire thing as previously stated is more "someone faxed me the manual and I worked from that". And then you have episodes like "The Trouble With Tetris" where you have a game that seems impossible to make an episode about so they just do whatever works. And then you have stuff like "Quest for the Potion of Power" is a beat-by-beat playthrough of Zelda 2 to about the fourth 5th Palace.
>go to town and encounter lady who says "Sorry, I know nothing"
>Assist townsfolk, get something that helps you on your quest
>journey through a desert where rocks fly through the air in constant bombardment
>enter dungeon, encount and defeat first boss Horsehead (only vulnerable on his head)
>journey continues
>in graveyard full of flying eyeball monsters (Moa), fall into a secret spot to reveal a pathway to the Island Palace
>In Island Palace, encounters and defeats a horse riding Iron Knuckle (Rebonak)
>episodes final battle is vs a towering robed wizard enemy (in this instance, Ganon) who can only be defeated by reflecting his own magic at him
This means the people making Captain N got farther into Zelda 2 than most actual Zelda fans
>This means the people making Captain N got farther into Zelda 2 than most actual Zelda fans
Hey, that's exactly as far as I got.
The comics were written by different people at Valiant Comics. Ironically they actually did their due diligence, other than fanon such as Link's parents, when the comics referenced the events of Zelda 2 they were accurate with details such as Bagu.
Well, to an extent. I mean, they conflated the two princesses from the first and second games, having it that it was Ganon who put the one Zelda from present day into an "eternal slumber" that Link had to wake her up from (this was how they incorporated and recapped the plot of the second game a throwaway line by Ganon pretending to be Impa).
More so than the parents and Clatia though, I'd say their biggest made up fanon was that anyone who possesses the Triforce of Power without that of Wisdom gets corrupted into a pig. Meanwhile Wisdom and Courage have no drawbacks.
The comics were also clearly among the references provided to the folks making the CDi games
Absolutely, the comics and cartoons, hence why the Triforce is multicolored pyramids and not gold triangles.
And yet Nintendo basically did that anyways by making Ganon start out as the human Ganondorf.
Well yes, and it's possible Nintendo took the idea from them (it does seem like Toad was originally meant to be a maid to the princess until the American Mario cartoon popularized him as a dude), but it wasn't having the Triforce of Power that made him evil (though it might have enabled the animorph, I guess).
Nintendo's basically conflated the Triforce of Power with evil themselves by making Ganon its only consistent solo wielder. And honestly the "You need Wisdom to wield Power properly" and the Triforce of Courage briefly abandoning Link thing isn't too far off from what Nintendo ended up doing with the "Only a balanced heart can claim the full Triforce without it splitting off into its aspects" thing years later anyways.
Really, I'm not gonna begrudge "The Power and The Price" for filling in its own blanks on Triforce mechanics when it ended up being oddly prescient of what Nintendo did anyway and also for being the best written story to come out of the "Early Zelda Spinoffs by Burgers" period.
Honestly the "huh, that's a funny coincidence (or IS it?)" that's Zelda related to me was that Ganon had the spiky skullcap in the Zelda cartoon first, then it worked its way back onto game Ganon later starting with his appearances in Oracles/Four Swords/Link Between Worlds.
Good points yes. I guess I just don't like the idea of establishing that the power part messes you up no matter who you are and what your morals and values are. I suppose it's very possible Nintendo saw what they did and said "That's not bad, but let's tweak it so it's about balancing it in general not just counterbalacing this one part".
Excellent observation, of course the shape of the cap is closer to the official art from the previous games. Question is, who added the spikes, Nintendo or Capcom?
>Question is, who added the spikes, Nintendo or Capcom?
Yusuke Nakano, an artist that works for Nintendo (well right now he's more like a general director of the art division, he had to ask a lot to let him do art for TPHD since he wanted to make art again) is credited as the character designer for the Oracle characters, including Ganon and the unused Ganondorf for it.
He also had a one-sided arguement with Miyamoto over Link's nose in the Oracle games (one sided because the account given in Art and Artifacts was that Nakano tried to explain the reasoning behind his Oracle Link and Miyamoto was upset he no longer had the funny ALttP nose).
>they conflated the two princesses from the first and second games
To be fair, this is a perfectly understandable mistake.
If you don't have the manual then yes, easy mistake to make, especially with the first princess being absent and not mentioned in the second game.
There's one big mistake: Link turned 16 at the beginning of the second game, years after the first, he was a child during that one. Of course I suppose they could be trying to be in line with the cartoon, in which he's told about the Triforce when he's already in his mid-teens.
sexy motherbrain
Would you?
CUTSMAN’S THE NAME, CUTTING’S MY GAME! AND I DON’T MEAN HAIR!
There is no Ninetales here
who is the hot chick supposed to be?
Princess Lana, original character for the show but a lot of evidence points to her being what may have been at one point an interpretation of Palutena. There's been concept art discovered since that looked less like Palutena's design, so it's anyone's guess how much or little the Kid Icarus manual art went into her ultimately.
>Captain N
And because it emphasizes what kind of show this is, here's some premises for never made episodes: just the creative team spitballing some ideas for interesting ways to burn 22 minutes.
If you ask me we were robbed
They were really planning on making episodes out of games based on already established properties. And I thought the episode featuring the Toei mascot was pushing the envelope.
How is that bad?
Imagine a dragon power episode.
These 2 sound great!
>The N-Babies
Jesus Imagine if these shows continued for another year or two. I couldn't imagine this shit happening at the same time as Megaman X or Castlevania 4. Honestly the SNES killed a lot of these DIC cartoons with Sonic being the only one who thrived
>Sonic
>thrived
>all his cartoons die in time for Sonic 3
>finally comes back to cartoons in time to hype up the Dreamcast and Sonic Adventure
>it's fricking Sonic Underground
It's mind boggling that Sonic Underground was such a relic when it came out in 1999. Compare that failure to Nintendo's strangle hold over Pokemon's production to massive success and it's clear sometimes you need to put people on a leash
>The N-Babies
A lot of these scripts are just terrible because they're just generic plots that could be slapped onto just about any cartoon like Captain N.
Like the N-Babies episode
>tmnt
Shredder and Krang make a ray that turns the turtles and Splinter and April minus Michelangelo into babies, and now Mikey has to take care of them. Baby Splinter is a brat. April has a crush on Mikey. Raph is really playful. Leo has toy katanas. Donnie is constantly getting into trouble.
Shit is gay. The worst episodes of Captain N were these generic ass episodes. The whole appeal of the series was Captain N visiting new game worlds like Bayou Billy, and kids watching the show would either go yay I've played that game or wow I want to play that game now. I get that licensing is a pain but the alternative was filling Captain N with shit episodes.
>taking an existing script and rewriting it for TMNT
David Wise is that you
That's how a lot of old tv shows in general worked; reruns weren't as accessible so at worst a viewer might think an episode seemed familiar from another show, and even more anything goes with kids media. Like
jokes, some writers were infamous for reusing plots.
I get that it was common practice but that doesn't make it a good thing. If they absolutely have to recycle plots and ideas, they could have at the very least shoehorned a video game in.
Video...game?
>Shredder and Krang make a ray that turns the turtles and Splinter and April minus Michelangelo into babies, and now Mikey has to take care of them. Baby Splinter is a brat. April has a crush on Mikey. Raph is really playful. Leo has toy katanas. Donnie is constantly getting into trouble.
did that actually happen? i think it did.
>The N-Babies
So it's Mojoworld with the X-Babies then?
The characters didn't even look or act like they did in the games. Frick this Saturday morning cashgrab.
There was a lot less established about how the collections of huge blocks 'acted' in the games back then.
For example, Mario is a plumber from Brooklyn right? Nope, in the official anime tie in he was a grocery store owner from Kyoto. Fans came up with that plumber shit and Nintendo ran with it.
Arcade Mario Bros is where all that plumber shit came from and riding on the heels of "Mario the Construction Worker" stuff within Donkey Kong and Wrecking Crew. The idea of Mario being a New Yorker is basically Nintendo of America flexing that they beat Universal in the "Donkey Kong is a ripoff of King Kong" lawsuit.
Never heard of Mario being from Brooklyn being a fan thing, its more like Nintendo of America thought of him as an Italian american guy, since they're are stereotypically associated with jobs like construction and blue collar jobs back then, as well as living in New York or Philadelphia.
>stereotypically
So you're saying NoA is RACIST???
>Never heard of Mario being from Brooklyn being a fan thing, its more like Nintendo of America thought of him as an Italian american guy, since they're are stereotypically associated with jobs like construction and blue collar jobs back then, as well as living in New York or Philadelphia.
Didn't Nintendo of America give him the name Mario in the first place? It's not like Nintendo was unwilling to accept stuff from NoA. Otherwise he'd still be Jumpman.
They mistook Sypha Belnades' sprite for an old man during an episode meant to promote Castlevania III.
Are they just expies of certain characters or just literally Zelda and Pit?
They are literally themselves imagined by people who didn't know anything about the games outside maybe manuals, if even that.
Pit is called Kid Icarus the whole time, BTW
This is Zelda.
You got to be kidding.
Man 7 year old me went crazy over that design.
I don't see how anyone can hate the designs on this show, they look great from where I'm standing.
Dolphin shorts were the best thing to come out of the 80's and fashion in general.
Now post the Zelda from the LoZ DiC series
Evil doppleganger Zelda from the original Zelda non Captain N one was hot as frick.
Hilda before Hilda
Does this make evil mirror Lana the Captain N Cia?
Now I want to see Captain N's take on Cia.
The Zelda series from the Super Mario Bros Super Show was frickin' FIRE.
They had someone play the games on a crappy TV, which is why Mega Man is green.
Also, despite making Mother Brain their main villain, the show's writers had no idea who Samus was.
Ironically I remember cartoon Mega Man being blue because my shitty TV from the 80's has the tint slightly off.
They might not have even had the sprite to go off and merely were given a description of "blue wizard" or something. The Castlevania 3 episode really feels like someone who read the Castlevania 3 manual at most and took everything to its most literal conclusion
>Alucard is Dracula's rebellious teenage son
>the Poltergeist King, a character invented solely for the manual, is a major player for the episode
>the most literal interpretation of "Simon whips a candle and a powerup comes out"
Here's Captain N Alucard btw
Is that a radical boombat??
if only he could be this happy in cannon
At least this one isnt taking it up the ass
That just goes to show how not canon he is
Is this really as bad as Mother brain having a space ship called "Metroid" for her base?
Reminder of what could have been
I don't know what that was, but I was really hoping when the van fell through space that Kevin would get out of it, 37 years old and 80lbs overweight with the zapper still around his waist excited to be back in video game land.
Okay, Why did this pitch fail?
Why wasn’t this greenlit?
What’s stopping this from happening?
The IP not being that popular?
Does the main girl character have a name?
neeshargo
I don’t get it.
It’d be fun to draw crossovers with her or Kevin but I’d have to re-watch it
What? Why do you think that’s bad?
takes itself way too seriously
The heart of Videoland being a generic cityscape as opposed to the monolithic Palace of Power is a huge downgrade in my opinion
I like how by season 3 DiC completely stopped giving a frick thanks to NBC slashing their budget. Not only was the animation a huge downgrade, but episodes had to alternate between Mega Man and Simon to avoid paying Capcom and Konami at the same time. I think Game Boy stopped appearing too.
let's be glad Fire Emblem and its sequels/spinoffs never arrived to States at the time. If Captain N had an SNES and DiC actually played the games, they'd be horrified. Genocide and incest this side of GoT
>implying they'd have those
You under-estimate Nintendo of America's 90s censorship.
That was the point. Had they released FE Stateside decades earlier, it would’ve been a mess
I wish Fire Emblem was in because I want to see how they wouldve handled Marth. Something tells me he wouldve been something like a king arthur look-a-like
>90s Fire Emblem cartoon
>It's the most basic King Arthur shit ever.
Like King Arthur and the Knights of Justice? That show was neat.
How would Hades be like if he was in Captain N?
"How would modern characters be in Captain N" is a tricky question to answer earnestly. Many decisions were made due to the times themselves. The characters predate things like voice acting, in game cutscenes, even high resolution art. It's easy to look even at a manual that has an image the size of a postage stamp that looks like this and get it wrong. Less so a character who starts talking the minute they're on screen and has a full color art the bigger than a computer monitor.
So, they looked at blurry pixels on a broken TV, made guesswork of the images in the manual, and then added their own 80s Saturday-Morning cartoon cliches onto the characters and called it a day?
I was thinking that Marth would be a total narcissistic ponce pining for Lana like Brock(to the dismay of Simon and Caeda), Sonic and Dante wouldn't be changed at all, but they would play up Demifiend as a depressed loner guy riddled with tattoos working for the devil. Jack Frost wouldn't be changed at all, but would be treated like a cartoon mascot with Hee-Ho as his verbal tic, and Crono would either be treated as a silent protagonist or a spiky-haired dude with a big appetite and lightning powers who travels through time with Lucca(which would be interpreted as a Velma clona).
If Wai-Wai World ever made it stateside, there would've definitely been an episode dedicated to it.
It's a shame that Nintendo never got the memo from Konami and made a game out of Captain N.
In one particular instance, accuracy would be forbidden even if they could: Pero from the NES game Puss'n Boots. The game is part of a series games (almost entirely released in Japan) that are based on the anime film series... an anime film series animated by Toei, who even went on to make Pero their company mascot and logo. I can assure you, Captain N was never animated by Toei, so another studio drawing their mascot could have made heads roll if he was even recognizable.
But here's a "what if" for you: Ganondorf, BUT they never realize it's the same character as the pig wizard. So the show makes him Ganon's brother for plenty of villainous "mom always liked YOU more!" squabble as he teams up with Ganon... and takes the "dorf" part of the name to stretch for a cheesy Dolph Lundgren/Arnold Schwarzenegger impression and caricature.
What did the N in Captain N stand for?
I
probably nintendo
>no Samus
She was the best part of the comics when she appeared
This was the Best interpretation of Samus ever!
Missed opportunity to put him in Smash Ultimate
>He's not a video game character
Shut up homosexual he's video game adjacent.
They had Megaman, Pit, and Simon Belmont it would've been the perfect reunion. At least a Mii costume or something.
Japan didn't get this you moronic zoomer, Miyamoto doesn't even know the Mario cartoons.
That didn't stop them adding shit like Little Mac who was only popular in America. Nearly all Japanese players complained it was a waste of a character because they had no idea who the frick he was.
The game was still MADE and RELEASED in Japan, these shitty cartoons were not.
Luckily they got their billionth FE character to make up for it.
Why do they like FE that much? The stories aren’t even good and characters are interchangeable. I don’t get it.
Persona but in ye olden times
that doesn’t help me
Lots of dialogue and character interactions and choices that can effect things.
You get to frick the girls in it while inserting yourself as the MC, either as boy or girl.
Its why awakening is super popular despite being one of the worst FE's.
Minecraft Steve got in because all the trolls overvoted for him in the ballot. Yet everyone is happy for it.
>Minecraft Steve got in because all the trolls overvoted for him in the ballot. Yet everyone is happy for it.
It's the most popular game ever. I promise you trolls had nothing to do with it, and it was just every little YouTube watching zoomie voting for it 1000 times each.
he is
>spoils every reveal trailer with "Not actual gameplay footage"
Bravo, Sakurai
They're legally obligated after a lawsuit involving Ubisoft I believe for fake marketing showing their games running off dev PCs rather than the actual consoles.
Of course it was Ubisoft.
Fun fact, Lana was supposed to be Palutena fron Kid Icarus.
It got shortened to Lena, then a scriptwriter mistyped it as Lana and that was that.
This makes the episode where she got mind controlled WAY hotter
It’s not forgotten to me
>no fanart
>not forgotten
Pick one or the other
It’s a reboot/revival story I’m writing. It’s currently at over 220,000 words
post it
(Archive of our own URL) /works/26315026/chapters/64077052
There's fan art of Captain N
I meant fan art not from the 80s
>Captain N and the Super Smash Bros
That's a catchy title.
Duck Hunt is actually a trio with the third being a human wielding a NES Zapper.
So Captain N could already be in Smash if he was meant to be the stand in for the player.
Minecraft Steve forever ruined this.
Which is better Palutena or Lena?
A Nintendo crossover cartoon in the 80s could've been so fricking cash but the characters hadn't really been established and the animators didn't give a frick. You can tell the moment they ran out of ideas and just started making generic 'Baseball' game episodes
>the characters hadn't really been established
You didn't need 50 games worth of lore to establish that Megaman is fricking Blue
And yellow, like the box art.
the tv they had was literally the wrong color. Remember that the companies gave them NOTHING to work with, someone had to fricking rent the game to show the design team.
what other dic cartoons are good?
Inspector Gadget, Mummies Alive
Real Ghostbusters, Carmen Sandiego
Ulysses 31 and Mysterious Cities of Gold are techinically Cinemaphile
This show was trash anyway.
But is it trash on its own terms or trash because it's not some imagined Subspace Emissary cartoon you'll never have?
I think having the characters in your video game show actually look like the video game characters and actually using the protagonist of the game you took your main villain from is a pretty low and reasonable bar to clear that Captain N's staff wasn't able to.
Accurate to what?
>that megaman's voice
Alluring, entrancing, true audio erotica.
That would require existing to be able to watch it to have been forgotten in the first place
wasn't there a lot of weirdly gay references with this character? not like le LGBT, but just homoerotic stuff. thats what I remember weirdly
Would a gay eggplant have have a couple of hot tomatoes like this?
those could be dudes, they have man faces.
idk i just recall him being weirdly gay with another fat character. maybe my brain is fried
He was almost always around King Hippo.
King Hippo's nipples and droopy man boobs are so fricking disconcerting.
They aré henchmen duh
>Scrunched face
>Third leg
Fricking lmao
Frick you Zoomers. Why you want for everything to be gay or trans?
Pre 90s, trans and homosexual was considered funny, which was why you saw shit like Bugs Bunny dressing in drag. 90s cartoons didn't show cross dressing to be pandering, they did it to laugh at them.
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It's not even "haha he's wearing a dress" so much as "haha the bad guys are wearing paper-thin disguises and nobody can tell".
I want more of that Megaman's voice. MORE.
I have the DVD set, so no, not really.
Good.
This was the Super Smash Bros of its time.
But no Minecraft Steve.
>of its time
And will still be.
Because how the FRICK can the cartoon forget about samus aran, but keep mother brain?
The fricking comics had her! There's no excuse, the creators couldn't been THAT moronic to forget her.
>But then again everyone looks like a train wreck so dodged the bullet.
She was a really good character in the comics as well.
Depends
>If they thought Samus a robot, anything on the table
>if they thought Samus was a man, something goofy and perhaps based on the sprite (gangly Dirk the Daring proportions?)
>if they thought Samus was a woman, 10/10 babe-a-rama
Nintendo never told the writers that the protagonist of Metroid had a name. Really.
Yeah
The reason they didn’t have Samus in the cartoon was because it was still considered a spoiler that she was actually a woman.
Be honest
If you were in Kevin's place, Lana or Samus?
Lana because Samus intimidates me.
Samus of course. What are you, crazy? Who would want to hitch themselves to some antiquated idea of inherited position rather than a woman who worked herself up from nothing into the nightmares of pirates around the galaxy?
>than a woman who worked herself up from nothing
She was literally given everything by Space Birds even part of her DNA is from them.
Captain N Samus has a different origin.
Samus. She is an a nórdic blonde goddess, Lana is a Princess but shit genes
>Nordic
After Dread, is Samus even human at this point?
She hasn't been 100% human since she was eight years old.
>8
Try 3. Samus was literally a toddler when Ridley fricked her parents.
>Ridley raped Samus's parents
>now Samus has to rape Ridley
I'd say I would want a reboot of Captain N
But with all the IP shit floating around I'm scared they'd frick it up even worse by being a bunch of half baked references to the games while offering nothing of actual substance
Capcom and Konami aren't above doing that either.
This is what a version of Captain N would be if it was rebooted.
That's what we WANT it to be, but all tht depends on if the people in charge give a shit, and let's be straight here other mediums often don't give a shit about video games.
I thought it was a real pitch but was rejected for unknown reasons. I think the design would look better if she had a letterman's jacket with disk-kun on it.
>other mediums often don't give a shit about video games.
That's true. The only one that seemed to give a shit was Wreck-it Ralph and even that was ruined with a sequel that completely ignored video games and went for internet memes instead.
Im kind of not into "the hero's a grill now wow!!!" if only because we have had like six identical female led isakeis. The kevin/lana duo is also a pretty solid main character team for interacting with vidizens.
>we have had like six identical female led isakeis
That's way too much. What we need is even more male led isekais, because a bajillion just isn't enough.
>What we need is even more male led isekais, because a bajillion just isn't enough
That's not enough. Just change the name and keep the design and personality the same for every character.
It IS a real pitch anon, but that depended on a few things on them being views, and while respectable aren't gonna motivate and studios to pick it up any time soon
Also Nintendo really doesn't fricking trust anybody with their IPs, and that depends on how well the Mario movies does critically and finanically.
Capcom and Konami have no standards, and Sega is easy enough to get on board as well. But other companies will be like herding cats.
Smash Bros had to get three games and millions of dollars in sales to get the trust of third party IP. If it's not a big name western studio you better be damn sure they're gonna watch it like a hawk, if they even allow certain IP in the first place.
And even then, I have my doubts because again, most people in other mediums don't respect games enough to give them their due respect. It's slightly better when it comes to animation, but again it needs to be the right people.
>and Sega is easy enough to get on board as well.
True, but Sega is also the company that says "we mandate Sonic can't show too MUCH emotion" and other ridiculous character rules that we openly know about.
>most people in other mediums don't respect games enough to give them their due respect.
I don't think that's the case anymore; big moves especially take a ton of influence from games now, the difference is they aren't necessarily looking to use specific games for adaptations. The people making media these days are people in their 20s-50's who all grew up with video games at this point, and many of them still play. The thing is normies don't get as attached to the lore of things as more obsessive people do. I mean look at a game like grand theft auto, a normie as frick game that comedians in their 30s and 40's were talking about back as early as the 2000's. That sort of open world, do what you want fantasy has been influential in movies, but many of the people who played it can barely remember the storyline.
Look the current Resident Evil movies/tv shows and tell me people respect games as a medium now.
Just because it's known doesn't mean its respected. The ONLY western made movie I've seen give even the slightest amount of the respect to the series is Sonic and the fans had to throw a shitfit for them to listen because they were going to frick it the first time
>Look the current Resident Evil movies/tv shows and tell me people respect games as a medium now.
I had no idea they even made a new Resident Evil movie; the last one before that was 7 years ago, hardly new. While it may seem like the storylines aren't respected, and I'd agree, the point is more that gays are a respected medium even if franchises themselves aren't. action movie direction is largely influenced by video game action now. Horror movies are paced like horror games. The fantasy genre has been changed by stuff like warcraft getting immensely popular.
Get SNK involved too.
How did gomenasai become a fantastic e-girlpop artist so fast.
I haven't forgotten at all
I just wish drawing reference of the Princesses Lana and Zelda were made public cause I've wanted to draw those versions for a long time
just take a screenshot of them
I should have been more active in my searching when someone would post up production stuff on ebay. I slacked and now they don't really appear much anymore.
oof
I didn't even know we had a pic like this
Have a few others, but as
said you're better off compiling screenshots. There's a panning shot of Lana from the first episode that gets cited a lot, and her model sheet pose got used for promotional art (you'll recognize it because it has the staff she actually never uses in the show)
Zelda herself doesn't get any full body panning shots the way Lana got to enjoy, so she's the more difficult character to work with.
Also Lana technically does use have the staff, but it only appears in late Season 2 episode "Having a Ball" where it bizarrely is used alongside a design that is her non-standard character model so it's even more weird it showed up at all.
I see
Anyone got a mega link of the DVD release?
All I could find is this.
Yeah the whole show is uploaded on youtube RIP annotated series
Annotated Series is still alive, it goes under "Annoverse" now.
I just got the DVDs
My god, I want this so badly.
She's a bit ruddy there, but it's the best shot of her we have.
What nintendo character would you like to see Captain N interact with?
inkling
Write their interaction Cinemaphile
>Oh hello Inkling-chan.
>H-Herro Captain N-dono...
>UHHHHGGGHHH TAKE IT TAKE IT YOU b***hHHHH
>Oh Captain N-samaaaaaa your big Amelican wiener too rarge aiiiiieeeeeeee
>OG show
>Everyone fricking hates him
>He knows this, takes it in stride
>Is secretly jealous of N and the gang and trains to be better than them
>Begrudgingly helps them out of a few scrapes
>Animatic
>wienery as shit, doesn't understand why a little girl gets to wield ultimate power
>Thinks everyone hates him, but no one really pays him any mind.
>Girl tries to show him that he isn't hated anymore, this leads to them butting heads.
Why is Sonic Sega the only one with constant videogame cartoons?
Sega is desperate for relevancy.
If there were an episode set in Sonic’s world, would it be AoStH, SatAM, or something else?
Also, taking into account that Videoland is located inside a Nintendo system, wouldn’t that mean there exists a SEGA Genesis Videoland? Do cross-platform characters get passes or something?
>Sonic's fast enough to drop in and visit Nintendoland from Sega City when he feels like it, he knows which Special Ring takes him where.
Sonic sounds like a douche in both versions.
That's pretty much been stated as his character from the outset.
Shantae, Council of Zeldas, and everyone else in the animatic
has the child been spook to this?
no
Reminder that Samus was always an absolute GIGASTACY, long before Dread.
>Samus put me here for life
The Samus I know would have just blown his head off and called it a day
hot
Oh come on, they didn't even try to make her look like Roll
This era was peak stronk wimmins, so no shit they would change her to be less demure.
That's because she wasn't Roll. She was Mega Girl. The people who made the series had no clue Roll existed. Their exposure to Mega Man was literally playing the first two games for like an hour on a tv that was busted, hence why he came out green.
To be fair it was easy for nobody to know Roll existed. She went unnamed in anything until the ending of Megaman 3, and gets an off-screen namedrop in Megaman 4's opening text. It's almost easy to have believed at the time that Roll was a creation of the Ruby Spears cartoon, since the character didn't do ANYTHING in a game until Megaman 7 (and even had her role reduced in the US version). Even Nintendo Power knew she existed but still thought she didn't exist.
That episode was stupid.
So Mega is sad he is not human, gets this b***h as a gift, then goes through a test to become human. Passes it, is human now but this robo b***h as well for no reason!?
>pink/white color scheme with twintails
I need more
Captain SUPER N.
Who is the topless b***h?
Shad's mom
>Who is the topless b***h?
Alanis Morrisette.
FRICK WHY AM I STILL FOLLOWING THIS WEBCOMIC AFTER TWENTY YEARS, I KNOW IT WILL NEVER FINISH
on the other hand, it's giving me more content than GRRM and Rothfuss, frick those buttholes
i want to believe
GIVE ME THAT MEGAMAN VOICE. MOAR MOAR I NEED IT
Literally what the frick was this version of Simon based on?
jay leno, gaston and johnny bravoe
He predates two of those.
Dudley Do-Right, Peter Perfect, The Dover Boys
Though his role of being the team's "bottomless backpack" is certainly more in-line with Castlevania 2 where Simon just collects tons of items.
They didn't even try.
Small indie tv, please understand
>indie
So? Rock doesn't look anything like himself either. Hell she looks MORE like Roll cuz at leas she's got the right color scheme.
This bigfoot photo is an early promotional image featuring in-development designs. Lana, Simon, and Kevin are the most changed, though Megaman has proportions closer to Fil Barlow's interpretation from the "Buddy Body" era of concept art.
This one is much closer to final, though Kevin and Lana are still not there. Lana's got the "Palutena evocative" design we know but her hair was closer to the final in the previous image. Duke is entirely different. The biggest change is the background itself: presumably if that is the Palace of Power, it's far more like a traditional castle than the abstract building it would become. Clever design in the rolling "computer chip" crop hills though.
At the establishing shot of the Palace of Power, for comparison.
You know, I like the backgrounds in the DiC shows. Barring the more grounded Legend of Zelda cartoon, they just infused some real interesting design into things like Captain N, Mario, and Sonic.
Captain N fans are the epitome of "it was good because I liked it as a kid."
I think more they can judge it on its own merits instead of being mad at it for what it isn't.
What's her name?
Captain N Girl because there's never creativity involved in the names of female variants of male characters.
Katie Keene
Miss N
Captain N.
>https://knoxrobbins.tumblr.com/post/186200303522/captain-n-post-launch
Sam
>faster shooter
>no depth perception
You're pretty good.
If it existed at the time I wonder how Pokemon would've been handled
same as every other parody did
Captain N wasn't a parody though
??
They would make the art based on the back sprites.
>strap on one hand but not the other
Couldn't even stay consistent for one model sheet kek
Checking the episode, they're consistent to the inconsistency: that is, depending on the pose and angle, Ganon's hands either will have the strap or it will disappear, as the model sheet suggests.
>Checking the episode, they're consistent to the inconsistency: that is, depending on the pose and angle, Ganon's hands either will have the strap or it will disappear, as the model sheet suggests.
one of the lesser known powers granted by the Triforce of Power
Kek that is pretty interesting
Yeah, I've seen it in other things of the time. For instance, Blitzwing in Transformers has his head sorta in a purple "collar" from the front, but from the back it's yellow. The animators will just go "oh well it's what the model sheet says" so when the angle changes (for an example: Transformers the Movie when he flies away from Optimus Prime) they just have his head change color because the model sheet said that's what it's supposed to do.
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It takes all hands to make animation error, and sometimes that means following the guide is the error.
The only episode that I remember is the Tetris one where everything is shaped like a box.
>that season where cast either died or was brainwashed to be evil by the newly introduced villain Nyzo
I like Kevin's design in this. I know it's supposed to be generic but I still like it for some reason.
Yes
Good
I’m surprised there hasn’t been a Japanese version of Captain N or Pleasantville except with anime.
There have been. Off the top of my head, there was a really popular doujin that was about a fan of Dragonball who gets transported to Dragonball world as Yamcha. At first he curses the fact that he's Yamcha because Yamchu sucks, but then he decides to use his fan knowledge of the series to make Yamcha a really powerful character. I think he winds up killing Nappa and holds his own against Vegeta when they arrive. It goes through other sagas as well. It was a pretty good read.
Actually the closest thing you could say to Captain N that Japan ever got was Bug*ette Honey, a cartoon loosely based on the NES game Adventure Island. It's a gag filled series that features regular kids falling into a video game world that operates under video game logic, their running into and teaming up with Genjin Takahashi as they constantly have to deal with the evil schemes of King Kyura (who you might recognize as the first boss of the game). Cameos and references to other video games happen throughout, most other Hudson games, some not.
Was successful enough to have a big screen movie, and Hudson even went and completed the loop and made a game based on the show (it's not a good game).
oh dang, i played the shit out of adventure island. never knew there was a cartoon
No subs of course.
Somewhat
the only reason i know this show exists is because an autistic kid in the background of a louis theroux documentary had an extensive live-action fan series based on it. it's not online any more, but sometimes you can find people posting gifs from it as reactions.
Partially
People shit on Captain N for "getting the characters wrong" but I miss the days when there weren't wikis for every single fricking cartoon, where the "canon" of some fricking video game didn't matter, and writers were free to interpret shit.
Bit disappointed they never did a crossover with Super Mario given DiC had the license and made a Super Mario cartoon. The Zelda crossovers were good.
>where the "canon" of some fricking video game didn't matter
>videogame adaptations
>canon mattering
Wut even today the game's canon doesn't matter to the people making the adaptations
>video game didn't matter, and writers were free to interpret shit.
They still do, why do you think the Castlevania cartoon was shit? Trevor was in vis basement a whole season and instead we got vampire politics far more boring than Star Wars' space politics.
I want Nintendo to let Captain N happen again, make it 10 episode mini epic on Netflix.
>a kid gets sucked into the nintendoverse through their switch
>end up running into Kevin who's now grown a beard and is long past believing he can go back home
>kid has to teach Kevin how to be Captain N again by telling him about all the new Nintendo tech out there and how to use it, like using the wii fit balance board like a hoverboard
That just sound like Tron:Uprising
But without the ugly CGI.
Modern Nintendo is an unrecognizable monstrosity and has been ever since Iwata died and the last vestiges of his influence disappeared with the rise of Furukawa Daimao. All they care about now is coasting on the bare minimum, which they not only get away with, but thrive on, due to the actual cult they have. They don't even have a PR division because their fans vehemently defend their every transgression and pay them boatloads of money to continue exploiting them. While they're tentatively spearheading an offensive into multimedia projects for the first time in some 30 years, they have never been less inclined to make something like Captain N. Illumination is their animation studio of choice, for God's sake. They're going to make Mario so safe that Mickey Mouse is going to look like The Punisher in comparison.
Don't mind me, I'm just posting good animated shorts with proper characterization of the videogame characters. Completely baffled how Japs can make CGI animation this good but suck at TV series.
>characterization is just [grunt] [eyuh] [hrmmph!]
Riveting, you can totally make a show off that.
80s and 90s video game cartoons are like a perfect time capsule to how people interpreted video game sprites back when plots were just minimal.
>blue mega man
>bet doesn't even have that voice
To garbage it goes
>Alternative Universe Captain N
>Simon and Pit are more true to the games
>Samus is there too
>But It has Ruby Spears Mega Man
Sizzling Circuits, that'd be delicious.
>Ruby Spears Mega Man
tl;dr?
You...you don't remember the 90s Megaman cartoon?
it was Ruby-Spears' next-to-last cartoon they'd ever made
Its weird how it looked nothing like the rest of their output, too.
I guess since Ashi Productions made it slightly animesque?
Wait until you see their final cartoon, Skysurfer Strikeforce.
it was based
no
Huh. It's probably the best of the American Capcom Cartoons since classic Mega Man fits way more in the standard Cartoon formula.
It's wild that the first Classic/X team up is in this series.
Good times, good times.
Annoys me to no end how 80's cartoon podcast hosts always call it "Captain Nintendo". Pretty sure they were specifically forbidden from saying "nintendo".
yeah because the show fricking sucked
It was all we had at the time on NBC Saturday mornings. Nintendo/Dic pretty much owned like 1 1/2 hours of that network every weekend.
>nintendo show
>half the cast are third party characters
>ninty itself using kid icarus as their main reps
the frick were they thinking?
they already had mario and zelda cartoons
What else did they have at the time?
At least they were thinking, unlike Acclaim when they made The Power Team.
>what if we made Captain N but used only Acclaim characters
>and all of our characters had the same generic "is a protagonist" nice guy personality
>and we set it in the REAL WORLD removing the only interesting element that Captain N has when you take away the big name Nintendo aspect
But hey at least the characters are accurate so 10/10 best video game cartoon ever made right?
>No lewds of the blonde
Damn.
That was broadcasted along with the original Donkey Kong cartoon wasn't it? The one in which Pauline was Mario's niece instead of his girlfriend.
I'd like to watch that again one of these days, just to see how good/bad it really was (I was too young for my memories to allow for an objective opinion), but I haven't been able to find it on-line.
No, it was in the game show Video Power, where kids played games for points, then at the end of the show, one kid got to run through a maze of videogames and velcro games to himself in a timed run. What YOU'RE thinking of is a show that ran on NBC every Saturday morning in...I think 1985-86 (the same time years The Jackson 5 and Gary Coleman cartoons were also on NBC), Saturday Supercade, a bunch of shows based on arcade games: Q-bert, Donkey Kong, Pac-Man, Kangaroo, and Mario Bros. Two different game series per week, each lasting 13 or so minutes per ep.
Ah, my mistake. But wait, there was a Mario Bros, not Super, cartoon? I remember there were both Donkey Kong and Donkey Kong Jr. but that one would be news to me. Makes me even more curious.
>But wait, there was a Mario Bros, not Super, cartoon?
No, just Donkey Kong. Mario was Peter Cullen.
Fun fact: Cullen doesn't even remember he did the show, and has so little interest in video games as a whole he doesn't know Mario went on to be something bigger.
Well, understandable considering his other roles went on to be way more important.
They really aren't, Mario is 2nd only to Mickey Mouse in famous fictional characters now.
I mean for him. He's gotten way more fame, recognition and money for Optimus and Eeyore than he ever did as Mario.
>Kuros looks nothing like his in-game sprite
>instead he looks like Fabio cosplaying Conan
Cover art strikes again
>Blatantly using Higher Ground as the opening theme
Ballsy fricks.
Do it, bro...post the evil cat-girl Lana.
BTW, folks: The Nintendo Comics were fricking awesome.
>post the evil cat-girl Lana
someone post it
ironically Ken Penders started on Zelda
>Ken Penders fricking with Zelda lore instead of Sonic
What if....
>Lara-Su chronicles, but with Gorons.
>Link gets cucked by an OC royal knight.
>Malon was gay the whole time.
Valiant's Nintendo Comics System was discontinued before the N64 was made
If that's the only change in this timeline Nintendo would've slapped his shit to the moon.
For better and for mostly worse, Nintendo knows their way around a court room
I NEED MOAR MEGAMAN VOICE
Sadly
What did the N stand for?
Nintendo
I think the saddest part is that only 80's kids who liked Nintendo and were in college by the early 00's remember or care about Captain N, they used to make articles on their personal websites or videos in the pre-monetization era of YouTube.
90's kids onwards don't care. It ended up having a minimal cultural impact.
I liked it.
It's become a product of a bygone era and now only exists to make those 90s-and-onwards kids seethe because of what it isn't rather than what it is.
>It ended up having a minimal cultural impact.
Why does this matter at all?
i always felt it was weird how little cartoons from the 70s on got reruns
its like if you werent on hanna-barbera's a-list you got tossed in the gutter. the only exception i can think of offhand is the beetlejuice cartoon. that played in reruns on several networks, broadcast and cable, for a long while
The strangest case to me is the 80'sNinja Turtles cartoon. It lasted 9 years, was getting new episodes until like 97, then it ends and never got rerun again.
there is nothing wrong with a green mega man
Well sure, if he's using Hyper Bomb.
Was too young to watch 80s so sorry OP
1992 reporting in
>I can't watch a show that's not ongoing
This fashion makes me hard enough to grow an inch
I would do things to Captain N tbh.
you mean lana
Let that anon simp for whoever they want
>2022 Captain N
>half of the episodes are available only as DLC
Heh.
>Captain N various games worlds
>Ends up in Metro City fighting the Mad Gear
>Run and Guns in Metal Slug
>Sneaks with Snake
>Quips with Duke Nukem
>Fights Geese Howard
>Time Traveling with Chrono
>Dealing with Eve with Aya Brea
>that last one
Thought nobody would notice, huh?
You could not do this show now, because Mother Brain is the main antagonist, and it would HAVE to be an accurate portrayal. The problem with that is Metroid is more overtly dark and gritty compared to the rest of Nintendo's lineup. Picture the Space Pirates fricking up the Mushroom Kingdom. The execs would never allow it.
I used to have this in higher quality well over a decade ago if I recall correctly. It had a companion piece with blue Mega Man and Lana instead of Palutena.
link?
"used to". I no longer have it.
okay
nice
would a reboot with kevin work today?
Eh it wouldn't be Kevin who'd go into videoland, it'd be a girl just as with every other recent western isekai show.
I'll never really get over Gameboy. Not that I find him that terrible as a character (you can't really bring down the quality of Captain N in that way), but more that everyone's some fanciful design interpretation that was focused on injecting character into 8x16 pixels... and then Gameboy is Literally Just A Gameboy With A Dot Matrix Face. I know FIl Barlow drew some concepts that at least gave him something unique, but that the character wound up how he did is just kind of... weak.
I really like the main MC’s design. I wish there were more like that.
It's no Ruby-Spears Megaman. I liked those storytimes more.
You want this, don't you? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULslwGCpOdc
yes
cute
What is Simon like in the games?
Captain N is just hilarious to me. All these TOTALLY NOT character designs, the generic white boy and girl MCs. It's just funny
Perhaps
I’d rather have Kevin than another genki girl casual gamer, plus keeping the previous set designs.
But what if Kevin was the Villain, planning on an ultimate reboot to restore the Video game world to the way he remembered it before Casual gamers like the new Captain N changed it. A Gen x'er trying to keep the last bit of childhood he has, as he hits 40.
>80s era Nintendo/Dic character refuses to move on
Then I'd say Dobson wrote this premise
Why does his character need to change at all?
What do you mean change, he didn't change. The world around him changed. He only wants things to go back to the way things were, the way Nintendo land used to be before it became what it is today.
If you don't die a hero you live long enough to be a villain.
Man, you really want Kevin to devolve into being Dobson.
I like the concept but feel sad it will never have a chance of happening ever. It could make for a good webcomic or series of animatics but even that would be a stretch if he actually wants it to have a chance of being made. One of the comments say he’s working on other pitches too, so it doesn’t seem like a high priority.
I still hate this show over how they butchered the most compelling and multilayered villain in video games Eggplant Wizard
>2022... I am forgotten
are there more comics? I used to love Captain S, fun parody by screwattack
The DiC Alf cartoon was better
Fil barlow's designs for Melmac were great
Who owns Captain N?
Nintendo or whoever owns DIC?
IIRC when the DVDs came out they had to ask for permission to Nintendo to release it.
Normally shows are owned by someone and it doesn't matter who owns the IP they can release it since they own it like say the 87 TMNT cartoon but here it seems like Nintendo might actually own the characters.
Good question. Wild Brain, formerly Cookie Jar, own all of DiC's assets and they officially uploaded DiC's owned cartoons so they have stuff like the Super Show, Sonic cartoons and Captain N officially on YouTube, but not The Real Ghostbusters due to Sony owning the rights of that show.
But that complicated matter further: Does this mean the ad revenue gets split among themselves, Nintendo, Capcom, Konami and whichever guest third party is used? They DID used to have the 90's Mega Man cartoon too but got removed a year or two ago as the licence expired and Capcom wasn't interested on renewing, allegedly.
Nintendo Japan let Nintendo of America do what they want in the 80s/early 90s as long as they got good money and NOA like any american company would license their characters for anything. Eventually in the mid 90s Japan got stricter and stricter which is why there was a drought of nintendo licensed things between the 90s until the late 00's.
It wasn't until the late Wii/Wii U Era that their slower sales lead to them finding other revenue sources and Iwata stated they would look into licensing more. This is why we started getting more licensed stuff like figmas and companies making more mario merch/whatnot. This is also when they stated they wanted their properties to be movies and shows, we've gotten pilots like the Kid Icarus shorts, the Pikmin shorts by Miyamoto and even the star fox one so they'd been playing with the idea until they finally went with that Mario movie. If that Mario movie is a huge success you can bet your ass Nintendo will be more license friendly with movies and shows again.
So perhaps, and just perhaps someone could pitch them a renewed Captain N/Smash hybrid and Nintendo could say yes. It's not likely but it's likelier than it's ever been in say the last two decades for a Captain N revival. Of course a Smash cartoon seems more likely than a Captain N one but whatever.
I guess if they are able to upload the show then that means they do own the show outright. The actual character might be owned by Nintendo since he did appear in Nintendo Power first in a way.
Similar to how Fred Wolf owns the original 1987 TMNT cartoon but Nick (since they bought Mirage) own the actual characters from the show.
I do remember that shout factory had to get their Packaging of their DVDs by Nintendo, who knows why.
IIRC Shout Factory is a division of Wild Brain (if I'm wrong, feel free to correct me) so probably Nintendo still retains some leverage over Kevin Keene, Duke and Lana.
Reminds me about the whole Sora thing.
Do you think a reboot would still have Mother Brain be the big bad or would it be Master Hand or King K Rool?
>only two seasons on youtube
>can’t find the third season
>can’t search through Cinemaphile archives because it brings up mega man
I wish companies would make this stuff easier to watch
Third season is attached to Super Mario World.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLySo2SlSHPSPsMPvx3vXPmReAe05Vro9H
Keep in mind this is was before the axe fully swung down on NBC cartoons, so the animation is complete garbo, even by Captain N standards, and Mother Brain and Ham and Eggs barely show up.
thanks I’ll give it a watch
Hey but there's a diamond among all the rubbish: Return to Castlevania.
Check out Alucard's new bat flip.
Good thread, everyone. Remember, Captain N will never truly be forgotten so long as it lives rent-free in the heads of zoomers who seethe that it isn't the Smash Bros cartoon they can't have.
Should we have a second thread? A more generalized "DiC Videogame cartoons" follow up thread.
up to you. There were two other dic threads but they died relatively fast.
Hop on, nibba.
I grew up in the 90s so I never caught any of the DIC Nintendo cartoons and didn't get to watch them until early youtube in 2005 or so. I found them neat for what they were but it was Captain N that I fell in love with, I loved the concept and even if they got things wrong just seeing those games interpreted in animation was cool.
Weird that Captain N never crossed over with Mario counting they even shared a block and Zelda did crossover.
>Weird that Captain N never crossed over with Mario counting they even shared a block and Zelda did crossover.
Mario and Luigi were also supposed to be from the real world so it would have been weird, I guess.
Emphasis on were since Nintendo later decided to establish (*cough*retcon*cough*) that Mario and Luigi were never from a different world than the Mushroom Kingdom and that the early DK games simply took place in a more modern looking part of it (dunno where Mario's accent comes from, did he grow up among Piantas?).
Terrible decision in my opinion, long live Brooklyn Mario.
Now, to be fair, New Donk City is still very much Brooklyn, just more in contact with the more fantastical shit.