Mostly just for white people. Phil LaMarr was shocked as hell when he tried to say "right on, no racebending on voice acting!" and had to explain why it was okay for him to voice Samurai "Not Black" Jack. But apparently it WAS okay for him to do it.
Twitter has enough real ass bad hot takes without you making them up.
LaMarr said "Don't use my name as an excuse to not hire minorities as Voice Actors."
Unless you have a screenshot to share with the class.
>"Don't use my name as an excuse to not hire minorities as Voice Actors."
So what, is his take that minorities can voice whoever the hell they want and it's only white people who need to stay in their lane?
He said it was wrong for white people to take on roles of minority characters because it would be taking potenial roles away from minorities. But when someone called him out for voice acting Samurai Jack, he compared it to playing as a British person. Dude's a full blown hypocrite.
>"Don't use my name as an excuse to not hire minorities as Voice Actors."
So what, is his take that minorities can voice whoever the hell they want and it's only white people who need to stay in their lane?
There are over a billion Indian people on the planet. They aren't a minority-1 in 7 people on the planet are Indian.
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Minority in the US, not the world
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Isn't it racist to have a white ethno-centric world view like that?
phil refuses to acknowledge that asians are under-represented in voice acting and equates him playing an asian character to english actors playing american characters
To make companies save money? Wouldn't surprise me if they're pushing this race-voice acting crap to make a transition to AI buried under a lot of noise
Companies being cheap and greedy is a surprise to no one and it never has been, not even during the days of the Hanseatic League. Their attempts at disguising that greed with the social cause du jour is also nothing new; the first major bankers in the West were literally the Knights Templar.
What's stupefying is how many people - people who identify liberal and left-leaning - continue buying that narrative hook, line and sinker.
To make companies save money? Wouldn't surprise me if they're pushing this race-voice acting crap to make a transition to AI buried under a lot of noise
This was the biggest nothingburger ever. This guy whines about being bullied over Apu, neglecting to realize bullies will look for literally anything about you to shit on.
If it wasn't Apu, it'd be his glasses, his fat face, or prostitute of a mother. Get over it. Thankfully Simpsons was already dead for a decade so he doesn't matter.
Apu in the show is a chad who owns his own business has a hot wife and several kids. How is his accent racist? In every city I have ever lived there are 7-11s and bodegas owned by Indian and Pakistani guys who have accents just like Apu-how is it racist when the show is simply mirroring real life?
The Kwik-E-Mart is an international chain. It's not enough that he's the successful manager of the one in Springfield, he needs to be the CEO with more money then Mr. Burns.
He was the producer. The show was written by Warren Ellis.
>"Don't use my name as an excuse to not hire minorities as Voice Actors."
So what, is his take that minorities can voice whoever the hell they want and it's only white people who need to stay in their lane?
No, it was a complete dodge when someone asked him how was it any different than him voicing Jack.
I think Hari Kondabolu's argument is solid, but it harder to view the impact that Apu has with today's TV landscape. For about the first 10 years of The Simpsons there was no other representation of Indian culture on US TV. Now we have a few other shows, like Big Bang Theory, to broaden that landscape.
The difference between how the Simpsons treats Apu, and Kyle from South Park, is Kyle is not shown always wearing a yamaka, speaking in a hasidic accent while constantly referencing his cultural traditions for a punchline. The focus is usually on how terrible Cartman is for being a bigot, to Kyle.
>Hari Kondabolu's argument is solid
Already stopped taking you seriously. The guy clearly wasn't arguing in good faith and but not surprised you're stupid enough to buy it >Kyle is not shown always wearing a yamaka, speaking in a hasidic accent while constantly referencing his cultural traditions for a punchline.
..You realize there are constant jokes made about Kyle's stereotypical israeli family, right? >on how terrible Cartman is for being a bigot,
It's supposed to be laughed at for the bigotry, it's never treated or taken seriously aside from that.
he was right though
apu doesn't represent how indian people are
poos are loud and obnoxious. worse than israelites when it comes to their communities and """assimilation"""
What did he expect? Hollywood, wokeys and western media doesn't give too much a frick about Indians. They too busy focusing on black American than other ethnic
as a south asian didnt care about him, simpson for zoomer was pretty niche, if ppl were gonna make brown stereotype it was them tryna mimick raj from big bang theory or baljeet from phinease and ferb
This man single-handedly locked all voice actors into race-based casting, something that was never a problem before. It was sold as diverse move but all it means is less work for everyone of every race, less variety, and doesn't do shit for representation because you don't see the person doing the voice anyway.
>This man single-handedly locked all voice actors into race-based casting
This. The worst part is that this is being translated to sexualities and body types as well... and not only in animation, but in live-action media too.
Bet that dumpy homosexual expected that Apu shit to launch a highly successful career as Hollywood's token indian. Didn't work out, huh? Now everyone hates his guts for being a sanctimonious whiny homosexual.
Lol no, he thought he could get a job on The Simpsons doing a fake and gay "diversity hire or cancelled" moral crusade. If he wanted more representation, then he would've developed his own show/studio that represented Indians (let's be honest, Indian-Americans) properly, instead of tearing down existing properties. Stupid fat fricking parasite.
There's no mind reading, you just weren't reading between the lines. I could understand if he wanted to kill off Apu, but completely changing such an iconic character to fit his personal views just screams delusions of grandeur. He wants representation, right? Who's gonna voice Apu? An Indian, of course. Who will write his character? An Indian, of course. Who's gonna do it? Why Hari ofc, because he apparently speaks for his entire race.
The documentary involves him introducing a bunch of Indians both in and outside of entertainment and learning they all had the same experience with the meme of Apu. If this had nothing to do with race or representation you'd he less combative with the concept.
I don't care about Hari's paid shills, that's not the point I'm making. >If this had nothing to do with race or representation you'd be less combative with the concept.
No, I'd still see him as a delusional moron meddling with something he has no input on. The People vs. George Lucas comes to mind, but they at least knew their place as fans.
> He was talking about how Apu was the only form of Indian representation in media so it went beyond bullying based on the only TV Indian, it went to how Hollywood used Apu as a mold for Indian characters or Indian sounding characters.
I don’t know a single Indian in this country that isn’t tied to a convenience store. It’s a stereotype because it’s fricking true. If the Indian community wants to be seen as more than just a transparent after-effect of Hart-Cellar and legislation that subsidizes the store for several years based on the minority owner, (and then the funding continues because the store just swaps to someone’s brother or cousin)… well we’re well past that aren’t we?
Even our model minorities are only here to fleece us. I hate liars and cheats and unfair deals and it’s all this rotten nation wants to support.
That's a huge tangent. The topic is Apu being the only popular media representation of Indians in America. The problem isn't that the Indians in film that followed were all convenience store owners, it's how these actors were told to sound like Apu.
I'm pretty sure that a bigger influence on how Americans view Indians have been heavily-accented call center operators and troubleshooting tutorials on YouTube.
Those are the stereotypes those born after 9/11 had, but they also had Harold and Kumar movies and Aziz. Millennials and gen X grew up with Apu as the icon.
>it's how these actors were told to sound like Apu.
They weren't "told to sound like Apu", the majority of Indian immigrants in the west who speak English naturally sound like Apu already. Indians had their own Indian media that depicts Indian chads and those actors sound like Apu when they are speaking Hindi and Bengali.
>The actors said they were being told to speak like Apu and you can see the Apu accent in 90s and 00s Hollywood movies.
Was the guy in Big Bang Theory told to speak like Apu or is that just how he talks?
i watched some of his stand up and even linked it here once
its the typical extremely unfunny self depreciation jokes and moralizing about racism
he is the definition of my parents are well connected so that means im successful
Apu is a better representation than most latino reps...
Just compare the hispanics people that appear on the simpsons with apu, Apu is actually a character
Apu was absolutely based on a stereotype, the writers knew that and went out of their way to flesh him out a bit early on. It’s why he was the captain of the volunteer fire department and was one of the first side characters to get episodes following him. I think he got his own stories before Moe and Skinner
>race wedge
He's pointing out something real that happened and shaped impressions and expectations. If you were smart you can use this to make an argument about how negative representations of straight white conservative men in media hurts them.
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Then you think the focus of his documentary would be purely on Hollywood, not the Simpsons or the race of Apu's voice actor.
Apu is the focus because he's the representation that caused the impressions he addresses.
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Apu is a better representation than most latino reps...
Just compare the hispanics people that appear on the simpsons with apu, Apu is actually a character
True, but they're varied. This is about how when it's singular it creates a similar result for many people.
I don't care about Hari's paid shills, that's not the point I'm making. >If this had nothing to do with race or representation you'd be less combative with the concept.
No, I'd still see him as a delusional moron meddling with something he has no input on. The People vs. George Lucas comes to mind, but they at least knew their place as fans.
The point you're making is moronic. It isn't a point, you're just telling me you think the vibes are off.
>Are any of them still around?
Nope, thankfully online "journalism" took a big hit in the past years. Leigh "Gamers don't have to be your audience" Alexander has quietly disappeared into obscurity, trying to become an author, and is still drunkenly ranting on Twitter about whatever the current Twitter hivemind has deemed a good Twitter feminist must rail against.
Not really when he did successfully alter the show forever, and it also impacted voice actor casting across the industry. Even if nobody remembers the documentary it can still be considered terribly influential, the consequences of it will be felt forever.
He ruined voice acting though
yeah, I kinda agree now with the chinks about pajeets being insuferable c**ts.
Mostly just for white people. Phil LaMarr was shocked as hell when he tried to say "right on, no racebending on voice acting!" and had to explain why it was okay for him to voice Samurai "Not Black" Jack. But apparently it WAS okay for him to do it.
Twitter has enough real ass bad hot takes without you making them up.
LaMarr said "Don't use my name as an excuse to not hire minorities as Voice Actors."
Unless you have a screenshot to share with the class.
>"Don't use my name as an excuse to not hire minorities as Voice Actors."
So what, is his take that minorities can voice whoever the hell they want and it's only white people who need to stay in their lane?
He said it was wrong for white people to take on roles of minority characters because it would be taking potenial roles away from minorities. But when someone called him out for voice acting Samurai Jack, he compared it to playing as a British person. Dude's a full blown hypocrite.
There are over a billion Indian people on the planet. They aren't a minority-1 in 7 people on the planet are Indian.
Minority in the US, not the world
Isn't it racist to have a white ethno-centric world view like that?
>Nationalities=Race
phil refuses to acknowledge that asians are under-represented in voice acting and equates him playing an asian character to english actors playing american characters
he is a lameass hypocritical idiot
he disgusts me
He ruined Weezer.
Thank God. Fricking pajeet.
How much you want to bet that cartoons now will star non-human characters because of this moronic bullshit?
>VA industry becomes diluted and segregated because one whiny street shitter
Gee I wonder why AI is a thing now
To make companies save money? Wouldn't surprise me if they're pushing this race-voice acting crap to make a transition to AI buried under a lot of noise
Companies being cheap and greedy is a surprise to no one and it never has been, not even during the days of the Hanseatic League. Their attempts at disguising that greed with the social cause du jour is also nothing new; the first major bankers in the West were literally the Knights Templar.
What's stupefying is how many people - people who identify liberal and left-leaning - continue buying that narrative hook, line and sinker.
No robot ever called me racist.
>the hand
Big biz would rather create deformed Black folks than work with a real one
The deformed Black keeps its monkey mushmouth shut
they probably created 1000 models and charge a couple bucks for stock pictures
Serves you right.
This was the biggest nothingburger ever. This guy whines about being bullied over Apu, neglecting to realize bullies will look for literally anything about you to shit on.
If it wasn't Apu, it'd be his glasses, his fat face, or prostitute of a mother. Get over it. Thankfully Simpsons was already dead for a decade so he doesn't matter.
He was trying to get hired as Apu, instead they just removed the character
Also Apu should be a millionaire business owner, and when Apu isn't on screen all the characters should ask, "Where's Apu?"
Apu in the show is a chad who owns his own business has a hot wife and several kids. How is his accent racist? In every city I have ever lived there are 7-11s and bodegas owned by Indian and Pakistani guys who have accents just like Apu-how is it racist when the show is simply mirroring real life?
FRICK THIS FAT homosexual
The Kwik-E-Mart is an international chain. It's not enough that he's the successful manager of the one in Springfield, he needs to be the CEO with more money then Mr. Burns.
That's like how they made Speedy Gonzalez the owner of a Mexican restaurant in the new Loony Toons.
Whatever happened to this? I must know how terrible the submissions were, because not even a golden age Simpsons writer could rewrite Apu like that.
Everyone made fun of it and I guess they canceled it?
Also the guy made that Castlevania show I think.
Isn't this the guy who wrote for the netflix castlevania? the one where Alucard gets buttfricked?
imagine if they rewrite apu as gay indian daddy who likes to be buttfricked while blaming his religion that obligate him to marry and have children
Eww
He was the producer. The show was written by Warren Ellis.
No, it was a complete dodge when someone asked him how was it any different than him voicing Jack.
I thought only the first season was written by Ellis, didn’t he get “me too’d” during production?
Nah ellis wrote the whole thing. He got metoo'd when he already had the last season written
His bullies would probably be laughing at him, after this news came out...
He's moved on to Harold and Kumar
Anthony that portrays an Indian as less than a perfect Greek god but red-brown is safe
If it wasn’t for apu nobody would even know or care who he was
I think Hari Kondabolu's argument is solid, but it harder to view the impact that Apu has with today's TV landscape. For about the first 10 years of The Simpsons there was no other representation of Indian culture on US TV. Now we have a few other shows, like Big Bang Theory, to broaden that landscape.
The difference between how the Simpsons treats Apu, and Kyle from South Park, is Kyle is not shown always wearing a yamaka, speaking in a hasidic accent while constantly referencing his cultural traditions for a punchline. The focus is usually on how terrible Cartman is for being a bigot, to Kyle.
Kyle was also an American from America rather than an immigants
>Hari Kondabolu's argument is solid
Already stopped taking you seriously. The guy clearly wasn't arguing in good faith and but not surprised you're stupid enough to buy it
>Kyle is not shown always wearing a yamaka, speaking in a hasidic accent while constantly referencing his cultural traditions for a punchline.
..You realize there are constant jokes made about Kyle's stereotypical israeli family, right?
>on how terrible Cartman is for being a bigot,
It's supposed to be laughed at for the bigotry, it's never treated or taken seriously aside from that.
he doesnt realize apu wasnt for him
it was for his parents
Imagine looking like that, like the biggest cliche of a softboy homosexual, and having the nerve to complain about being bullied
This guy never made any attempt to not be bullied in his life
he was right though
apu doesn't represent how indian people are
poos are loud and obnoxious. worse than israelites when it comes to their communities and """assimilation"""
What did he expect? Hollywood, wokeys and western media doesn't give too much a frick about Indians. They too busy focusing on black American than other ethnic
Hello good sirs
his legcy isnt forgotten
Shows not think twice about who to cast in their voice overs now
So Cinemaphile.....
How did I do?
When the green light for an actual show. I’ll watch it
as a south asian didnt care about him, simpson for zoomer was pretty niche, if ppl were gonna make brown stereotype it was them tryna mimick raj from big bang theory or baljeet from phinease and ferb
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I'm glad he's gone. SJWs made it so there's one less shit-skin to worry about.
Good.
This man single-handedly locked all voice actors into race-based casting, something that was never a problem before. It was sold as diverse move but all it means is less work for everyone of every race, less variety, and doesn't do shit for representation because you don't see the person doing the voice anyway.
It always amazes how segregation is literally coming back, but in the name of diversity
People of color = colored people.
>This man single-handedly locked all voice actors into race-based casting
This. The worst part is that this is being translated to sexualities and body types as well... and not only in animation, but in live-action media too.
Bet that dumpy homosexual expected that Apu shit to launch a highly successful career as Hollywood's token indian. Didn't work out, huh? Now everyone hates his guts for being a sanctimonious whiny homosexual.
>be voice actor
>have a taldnt that lets you do many different voices
>some fat moron says you can only voice people of your own race
Do not redeem
Not true there was these guys.
Apu predates them a few decades.
Lol no, he thought he could get a job on The Simpsons doing a fake and gay "diversity hire or cancelled" moral crusade. If he wanted more representation, then he would've developed his own show/studio that represented Indians (let's be honest, Indian-Americans) properly, instead of tearing down existing properties. Stupid fat fricking parasite.
He was a child then and you're relying heavily on mind reading to side step the post.
There's no mind reading, you just weren't reading between the lines. I could understand if he wanted to kill off Apu, but completely changing such an iconic character to fit his personal views just screams delusions of grandeur. He wants representation, right? Who's gonna voice Apu? An Indian, of course. Who will write his character? An Indian, of course. Who's gonna do it? Why Hari ofc, because he apparently speaks for his entire race.
The documentary involves him introducing a bunch of Indians both in and outside of entertainment and learning they all had the same experience with the meme of Apu. If this had nothing to do with race or representation you'd he less combative with the concept.
I don't care about Hari's paid shills, that's not the point I'm making.
>If this had nothing to do with race or representation you'd be less combative with the concept.
No, I'd still see him as a delusional moron meddling with something he has no input on. The People vs. George Lucas comes to mind, but they at least knew their place as fans.
> He was talking about how Apu was the only form of Indian representation in media so it went beyond bullying based on the only TV Indian, it went to how Hollywood used Apu as a mold for Indian characters or Indian sounding characters.
I don’t know a single Indian in this country that isn’t tied to a convenience store. It’s a stereotype because it’s fricking true. If the Indian community wants to be seen as more than just a transparent after-effect of Hart-Cellar and legislation that subsidizes the store for several years based on the minority owner, (and then the funding continues because the store just swaps to someone’s brother or cousin)… well we’re well past that aren’t we?
Even our model minorities are only here to fleece us. I hate liars and cheats and unfair deals and it’s all this rotten nation wants to support.
That's a huge tangent. The topic is Apu being the only popular media representation of Indians in America. The problem isn't that the Indians in film that followed were all convenience store owners, it's how these actors were told to sound like Apu.
I'm pretty sure that a bigger influence on how Americans view Indians have been heavily-accented call center operators and troubleshooting tutorials on YouTube.
Heck, they were making THAT joke back in 2007
Those are the stereotypes those born after 9/11 had, but they also had Harold and Kumar movies and Aziz. Millennials and gen X grew up with Apu as the icon.
>it's how these actors were told to sound like Apu.
They weren't "told to sound like Apu", the majority of Indian immigrants in the west who speak English naturally sound like Apu already. Indians had their own Indian media that depicts Indian chads and those actors sound like Apu when they are speaking Hindi and Bengali.
The actors said they were being told to speak like Apu and you can see the Apu accent in 90s and 00s Hollywood movies.
There are plenty of Indians who sound worse/more silly than Apu.
>The actors said they were being told to speak like Apu and you can see the Apu accent in 90s and 00s Hollywood movies.
Was the guy in Big Bang Theory told to speak like Apu or is that just how he talks?
Needs a modern update where Apu is an h1-b1 coder who writes the shitty scripts running Homer's nuke plant.
Fat fricking crybaby.
i watched some of his stand up and even linked it here once
its the typical extremely unfunny self depreciation jokes and moralizing about racism
he is the definition of my parents are well connected so that means im successful
You think he realizes this is the only thing he’ll ever be known for?
Then you think the focus of his documentary would be purely on Hollywood, not the Simpsons or the race of Apu's voice actor.
honestly just pick any video in his channel
this guy wants o decide whats funny and wht isnt
Mmmyeah more like Hari Kindaboring
The last joke is legitimately pathetic, guys a grifter and a star fricker and that’s all he has to offer
Apu is a better representation than most latino reps...
Just compare the hispanics people that appear on the simpsons with apu, Apu is actually a character
Apu was absolutely based on a stereotype, the writers knew that and went out of their way to flesh him out a bit early on. It’s why he was the captain of the volunteer fire department and was one of the first side characters to get episodes following him. I think he got his own stories before Moe and Skinner
>Apu was absolutely based on a stereotype
Simpsons is filled with stereotypes, why should Apu get special treatment?
>Apu was absolutely based on a stereotype
Anon, Bee man was based on a mexican comedian
El chapulin colorado
>race wedge
He's pointing out something real that happened and shaped impressions and expectations. If you were smart you can use this to make an argument about how negative representations of straight white conservative men in media hurts them.
Apu is the focus because he's the representation that caused the impressions he addresses.
True, but they're varied. This is about how when it's singular it creates a similar result for many people.
The point you're making is moronic. It isn't a point, you're just telling me you think the vibes are off.
It's the same thing that happened to Laverne and Shirley.
Like most culture war idiots
Seriously, think back to all those culture war anti sjws and sjws from the mid 10s. Are any of them still around?
>Are any of them still around?
Nope, thankfully online "journalism" took a big hit in the past years. Leigh "Gamers don't have to be your audience" Alexander has quietly disappeared into obscurity, trying to become an author, and is still drunkenly ranting on Twitter about whatever the current Twitter hivemind has deemed a good Twitter feminist must rail against.
Not really when he did successfully alter the show forever, and it also impacted voice actor casting across the industry. Even if nobody remembers the documentary it can still be considered terribly influential, the consequences of it will be felt forever.