>250 million budget
>no one fricking watched it
>still a mid show with only some great moments
>could have been cut in half with no drawback
why is disney so bad with money?
>250 million budget. >no one fricking watched it. >still a mid show with only some great moments
nobody liked blade runner when it came out either. disney is making shows for future generations
Disney announced they lost millions of dollars making Andor. The show didn't drive any new people to subscribe to the service and the views weren't very good with existing subscribers.
>Disney announced they lost millions of dollars making Andor.
Still lying, kek.
$250M+ loss, fella. Keep coping.
>still no source
problem is disney loses money with EVERYTHING. it doesn't make andor unique.
and whoever made it lost millions when blade runner came out, what the frick is your point? I already responded to this and you replied with your original notion again
source?
Wow I love Andor even more now
They lost money on streaming by losing Indian premier league cricket streaming rights. Holy shit this board is fricking moronic.
what future generations? homosexuals and trannies can't have kids
neither can you
blade runner holds up cause it has themes that stand the rest of time, the cyberpunk theme also looks cool
woke garbage goes away when there is a new political trend, gay flags and troony clonetroopers do not look cool
8/10
I watched, twice already, its the best star wars and OP is a zoomer brainlet homosexual
have a nice day mouse shill
agreed
This and TLOU are going to win all the Emmys this year.
succession and its terrible final season are going to get them
Succession had the best season of any show in ten years, award season is going to be cakewalk for them
the characters in that show don't talk like real humans
Best SW since ESB (not hard).
Keep seething.
I loved Andor but Andor fans will never admit that the first 2 episodes are super boring when a premiere needs to have action and fast moving story development to hook people in. The entire thrust of both of is completely dropped later (searching for his sister.)
>needs to have action and fast moving story
How is killing two security guards in an alleyway (One of them pleading for his life) by one of the "good guys" not a compelling hook?
I went into it expecting it to be another Filoni Cameobuster but got hooked instantly in that scene.
Killing two guys in an alley in self defense is nothing when it comes to tv shows and star wars in particular. I know they're trying to make it seem hyper realistic and how that's a big deal irl if and it would've worked IF they had them flying in to his homeplanet to get get him by the end of the premiere, end of second episode at max.
*ignore my moronation and repeated words
I disagree, spending the first episode on setting up Andors contacts on Ferrix and his plan to get away with the double murder, combined with the flashbacks to his childhood was great worldbuilding and also immediatly let us know that this would be much more grounded.
>How is killing two security guards in an alleyway (One of them pleading for his life) by one of the "good guys" not a compelling hook?
Because it's an overused thriller cliché, moron.
>Pic ignores Mando Season 3 with a grand total of zero cameos.
Oh i got fricking BORED by the first two episodes and seriously thought on dropping the show right there and then, but i also thought that they had a good reason to release 3 episodes at once especially considering they planned on 1 peisode a week for the rest of it. Idk if they should have edit it into 1 or 2 episodes instead or the ending of episode 3 wouldn't have the same impact without all of the previous boring shit, but yeah, it's the perfect example of it gets good after X amount of episodes.
The first two episodes of Andor featured people acting like actual people in Star Wars instead of weird cardboard cutouts so that alone was novel enough to stick out to me.
The whole sister arc and the flashbacks did nothing for the story or our understanding of Andor as a "character" and should've been cut. Speaking of, Andor isn't a character. Thankfully the supporting cast supports the show in his stead.
>Andor isn't a character.
>saying this after S1
moronic take.
Andor is a scowling cardboard cutout and Diego Luna has the charisma of wet paint. People are here for the side characters.
Sorry, but no.
He is a real character after what he had to go through during the heist, prison and final arc.
He was a none character and the least interesting one in RO, but Gilroy is slowly turning him into a well written character and there is a whole 2nd season ahead to do even more with him.
Dont worry disney will continue to mostly put out soulless nostalgia slop like The Force Awakens and The Mandalorian for you to consume instead
It's really hard when nobody knows wtf "Andor" is supposed to mean and it's on the heels of that Boba Fett and Obiwan garbage.
And/Or is when you have a choice of one or both between two binary options
Yeah they should've titled it something like "Rebellion"
Sorry goy that's a moronic cartoon
>still the best star wars media out there
Disney and their Noncanon Wars ruined Star Wars.
AND THE FORCE IS NON-BINARY NOT FEMALE, YOU STUPID butthole KATHLEEN KENNEDY!!!
My problem with all the nu-SW shit they bent backwards to """invent""" they really didn't need to as it already existed in the lore. Strong female character with ties to Skywalkers? We already have one at home.
operative phrase was "avoid using anything that earns george lucas royalties". hence everything they came up with is just enough to be a recognizable knock-off.
You're a fricking tard. Nu wars is all garbage but George is the 2nd biggest disney shareholder. He's getting paid anyway.
It's the best written content coming out of the Star Wars IP since the OT, fricking have a nice day
I loved the show, but Andor just walking into the Hotel at the end and getting out was fricking moronic, the empire was portrayed as competent and terrifying the entire show, and in the last episode they suddenly
Know Andor is coming
Know he's gonna go for Bix because she was his contact
Spot him close to the Hotel
And instead of having like three guards in her room waiting behind the door pull all their manpower to "Project force" in the streets?
They don't think he's there for Bix, they think he's there for the funeral, and he doesn't walk in he uses an old drainage tunnel nobody knows is there.
>the empire was portrayed as competent and terrifying the entire show
The Empire is portrayed as an infighting snakepit, anon. They swing around a heavy stick but have a hard time hitting anything because everyone at the ISB is trying to stab each other in back to advance their own careers. On Aldhani their squeezing of the natives is building resentment that provides perfect cover for the rebels even though the rebels don't even use the natives as open allies, and on Ferrix the stupid use of the boot leads to open rebellion.
Similarly, the various revolutionary groups are struggling with each other as much as with the Empire for ideological reasons. Saw Gerrera better have a scene next season where he lines up the Judean People's Front in front of a wall and executes them in the name of the People's Front of Judea.
Because its good storytelling.
Kassidian Andor gets into the entire fricking mess by being incompetent in the first 2 episodes. Which also leads to him being taken off the streets in a fricking third world vacation colony, because he is also still incompetent.
The Kassidian Andor from the first episode would have recklessly and thoughtlessly got himself caught in the finale. Instead he spends the entire finale hiding and going trough maintenance and sewage tunnels. He avoids confrontation, and do not assume he is going to win.
>Andors prison cylinder on Narkina 5.
>Could produce all the necessary parts in 1.348 Earth years.
That was the point. Literally kidnapping people off the streets for expendable slave labor.
i enjoyed andor overall but the worst part of the show is cassian so it's no wonder people didn't bother watching
Andor is simply what happens when you give a huge budget to an idea that's ultimately not as appealing to an established core fanbase. It simply doesn't have the elements your average Star Wars is there for.
>It simply doesn't have the elements your average Star Wars is there for.
Bright flashing lights and explosions?
Everyone know how much nu wars andor cucks hate real star wars. You're just a different breed of reylo
That's why it's great though.
What established core fanbase?
Movie goers. People crying about there not being enough lightsabers.
Right, I phrased that too loosely. Who is dedicated to Star Wars now outside of people suckered onto it for a political bent? It's not inspiring, engaging, or fun and has vivisected most of the elements that made it so.
andor just outed star wars fans as manchildern with no taste
>Long format reviews...are LE BAD
I'd rather play the game or watch the movie instead of listening to some fat frick ranting about irrelevant shit for 6H
I like having them play on one monitor while hunting shit in RDR2 or playing citybuilders
i'd rather listen to an audiobook instead
jesus, you could finish a college curriculum in 12h
What fricking college did you go to? I need to know which 'graduates' to avoid.
I enjoy essayist while I’m driving.
Andor is just not star wars, the public will never accept such products.
Star wars is not a setting, is a adventure epic and a character driven story of luke and company.
That's it, star wars will never be accepted as anything complex or different, only fantasy/western space adventures around the core cast/elements.
>Star wars is not a setting, is a adventure epic and a character driven story of luke and company.
I actually think this is the big stumbling stone for SW as people see it differently. You're basically doomed to carbon copy the original movies unless you're willing to experiment. Lucas did it with the PT and it wasn't liked, but the attempt was made regardless. In comparison Disney has no creative bone in their body to even try anything different.
Those movies still made a frick ton of money though. People generally like Revenge of the Sith too.
>luke
dude
the whole galaxy is laughing at your kiddy luke and his father issues
that girl was cute in the doctor who christmas special
>not as appealing to an established core fanbase
>core fanbase
There's always been a schism in the fanbase and Andor finally prove it. Some are here JUST for the jedishit and some watch it mostly for the SF/War elements (Empire, guns, ships, space battle, planets, smugglers, criminal syndicates,...). There are always things for both, it's why Vader was needed in Rogue One, but it's not the case of Andor.
so basically if andor had more cameos then star wars fan would enjoy it more?
>cameos
Of course, but not necessarily.
If Luthen used a glowstick at some point, they would all have been happy and called it the best SW show ever.
how does this dyke looking b***h clean up so well
yeah on aldhani she was pretty unattractive. when you first see her on coruscant i barely recognized her.
Space persil , same thing Jabba dunked Leia in .
Imagine being a shit-swilling Star Wars fan lmfao. I'm so thankful that I never cared about this shit to begin with.
It’s a shame because it was actually really good but Disney will stick with the shit stuff that’s just cameos like Boba Fett and Obi Wan because they get better viewership.
They both flopped just like this shit. Just like all nu wars.
Andor is great, and the fans who called it "not star wars" are moronic. Andor is exactly as political as the prequels, just with better dialogue.
The show had a positive outcome too, because neatly showed the what youtube reviewers are actual critics, which ones are midwits who just didn't get it, and which ones are hucksters who know blindly hating everything and making youtube vids with one capitalised word about DESTROYED star wars will make them money.
nu wars isn't star wars. not any of it.
>ON PROGRAM
48*7*7*7*365
Andor's prisoner cylinder was making
6,009,360 of these parts a year.
A hexagon contains 90 of these.
Each Hexagon can be approximated as a circle with a radius of 50 meters, Area 7,854 meters
The death star SuperLaser Focus disk has a radius of 15 Km,
Area 706,858,347 meters
Which means there are 89,998 Hexagon parts in the Disk
89,998 * 90 = 8,099,981
Andors prison cylinder on Narkina 5.
Could produce all the necessary parts in 1.348 Earth years.
yeah but there are most likely much more imperial prisons like it on other planets
Good thing we saw more of these cylinders when they were flown in
Frick star wars
Shit franchise just let it die. This was one of the worst things they made
It should have been a movie about the prison arc
1. Opening scence space miami
2. prison epsiodes
3. sex up the post escape part and getting off planet
4. closing scene on beach at space miami andor looking at the sunset and messi asking him to join rebellion
>ONE WAY OUT
What region is the free trade sector(Morlana One + ferrix) in?
what Galactic region and sector are
1. Space Miami, Niamos
2. Prison Moon, Narkina 5
3. Heist planet , Aldhani
4. Saw Hideout , Segra Milo
5. Andors homeworld, Kenari
6. Scrapyard Planet, Ferrix
7. Corp HQ, Morlana One
probably corporate sector authority
Luv andor, luv star wars.
Simple as.
>Luv andor, luv star wars.
That's a contradiction
>nobody watched it
>also incredibly bad
How do they keep doing it?
The people involved keep getting paid large amounts for failure
Tony Gilroy described the way he uses legacy characters less as fan service and more as "protein" to develop the universe. Like what he did with Mon Mothma in S1, previously no ones favorite OT character. Ill bet on Bail Organa and Mas Amedda both getting huge character glow ups in S2
first time i've ever been enthralled by a show in a long, long time. i'm looking forward to rewatching it. zoomer wigger trash who unironically say mid opinions need not apply.
money laundering
my 12 year old little brother has a better attention span than you fricks. "the first episodes were so boring waaaa" kys.
I didn't even know this existed.
I don't care about fricking homosexual shit made by israelites.
I watched the first 6 Star Wars movies and had my lifetime fill.
I watched this in april and thought it was decent but I expect it'll shit the bed eventually, probably through terrible writing like Kenobi or through embarrassing fanservice like Mando.
Mando wasn't fanservice, it was advertising for spinoffs. Never saw something ruined so quickly.
Also I'm getting sick of these negging disney shills.
Nah it was fanservice too
>muh baby yoda
>muh cgi luke
>muh soka
wonder when they're going to show darth maul too
Maul died in Rebels, the show set before A New Hope.
>thinking that will stop the guy who used time travel to keep sucking Ahsoka off
they only spent about a tenth of that on actually making the show. the rest vanished into shell companies.
i liked it. i'm a sucker for heist and prison break-out kino though.
best SW since episode 3
I finally watched it after laughing at the desperate shilling, and it's alright. How does Disney get these kino actors for these mediocre to garbage star wars shows?
Mousebucks. Do a role in a Star Wars or Marvel show, maybe your character becomes a favourite and you get more work there, maybe you just make good connections with the most powerful media company on Earth.
I have this downloaded, but you have to sell me on it. I could barely get through the Youtube fan film they called Kenobi. Not to mention Boba Fatt and well... 9/10s of the Mandalorian
just watch episode 1 and you'll almost immediately feel how different it is to the other slop.
Andor is leagues above Obi Wan and Boba Fett
nobody will sell you that Gilroy flick if you don't wanna see it.
Gilroy is Bourne 1.
Andor is not a Force movie.
there's no light sabers, but one, unexpected, a great one.
Andor is a robbery flick.
a prison break flick too.
Also a spy and infiltration flick.
Andor is a detectiv story.
it's not made for SW fans: they don't understand it at all.
they just need dumb Luke, JarJar, and Rey to be happy.
but there's no Ford level character in Andor.
Luna is under minimum level and it's sad.
Even Skarsgard is not at his best.
all in all, it's the best SW i've seen so far.
Did it need to be a show or could it have been done as a movie?
If they named the show Star Wars: Rebellion or something and advertised as 'Witness the birth of the Rebellion' instead of 'Do you want to know more about a random guy from a spinoff movie?', more people would've cared
yeah. it actually doesn't focus on andor as much as i expected. lots of characters get screentime.
Behold, the only NuWars content that isn't complete shit! Say something nice about it!
mandalorian is shit. if after season 3 you can't see that you are braindead.
If you'll notice, it says only "season one" for Mando in the image. Season one was watchable compared to season three, I think it's hard to dispute that.
what about jedi survivor?
and with mando that better mean Season 1 only, Season 2 and 3 were dogshit
I haven't played it yet but I heard it's good too.
I hated that Andors entire plotline was 'randomly Andor is in location X and magicly Y happend', its the definition of an 'and then' plotline
ISB Scenes where great tho and the heist in ep6
>I hated that Andors entire plotline was 'randomly Andor is in location X and magicly Y happend'
Wtf are you talking about.
The heist is a mission, Luthen bring him to it.
He is arrested (because of the heist) and they put him in a prison.
He is part of why there is a prison break in the first place.
He wants to help Bix and the only way to do it is to go on the fricking planet occuped by the Empire.
this is actually the best star wars lore since rogue one and the 2 seasons of the mandalorian before they decided to israelite it
I hate pretty much all nu wars. Mando first season was okay. And I liked rogue one. But I was obsessed with star wars as a kid. Dunno if I just grew out of it or if nu wars is just that terrible....but I really like Andor. Also really like Jedi knight 2 and have not played anything new
Episode IV > V > VI > III > Andor > Mando Season 1 >>> Episode I >> Episode II >>>>> Rogue One >>>>>>>>> Solo > Being raped to death by chihuahuas > Disney Trilogy
Andor was a solid 8/10 as far as slop TV, only adhd riddled zoomers and moronic reddit-boomers who think episode V is the best don’t like it
>inb4 mouseshill
i denounce the talmud, i hate Black folk, trannies will never be women, and you will never get laid
>mando season 1 over rogue one and episode 1
can we all just agree that ahsoka is gonna be shit?
its more filonitrash
High chance, BUT, I have to admit that the two new "sith"like are cool.
>Andor is a shit character no one gives a shit about
>Speeches were tryhard, forced and cringe
>Mon Monthma's storyline stalled and became boring incredibly fast. No actual politics. The b***h was just sitting at home with a sad face and bickering with her awful family. I felt sadder for her when she said, "Many Bothans died to bring us this information," than throughout the entirety of Andor
>Saw Gerrera was just a cameo and really had no reason to be in the show
>Luthen's action scene with the lightsaber ship was garbage and utterly pointless, did not affect the story in any way, because he goes to Ferrix on the next day for some reason, despite being established as a cautious person. He had no reason to be there, because he had already dispatched two deadly assassins after Andor. He went there, because the writer couldn't figure out how to get Andor and Luthen together. And the only reason Andor found him was because conveniently Luthen parked at the exact same spot out of all the places on a fricking planet
>BE TOO EMO is cringe, forced toybait, much like BB8
>Flashbacks were useless shit
>Retconned Cassian's "I was in this fight since I was 6 years old" Separatist background, making the character even less interesting than he was before
>Useless filler incel clerk storyline that is absolutely pointless and will not lead to anything substantial
>Lots of empty, pointless Emmy bait talking that reads like the writer jerking off
>Dogshit pacing and structure, episodes often just end abruptly without achieving anything, no sense of finality or hook to most of them
>99% of the show was humans, and 90% of them had London accents. Almost no aliens. So much for rich and diverse Star Wars galaxy
>Doesn't look/feel like SW
>Absolutely devoid of fun and adventure, dull and exhausting. Pseuds confuse dark and serious for joyless and tiresome, which is what the hacks like Nolan and Villeneuve do
Plebs really were tricked into thinking this shit is any good, it's hilarious.
Your premise is wrong.
Hollywood exists to launder money as "high budgets" and "losses".
>ONE WAY OUT
I had a whole andor picture folder saved
but its gone now I has really into it
i liked the prison arc and the ISB stuff
the rest of it was meh
I don't eat
I don't sleep
I do nothing but think of you
I don't eat
I don't sleep
I do nothing but think of you
He wish he was her.
rebel prostitute
Back against the wall and odds
With the strength of a will and a cause
Your pursuits are called outstanding
You're emotionally complex
Against the grain of dystopic claims
Not the thoughts your actions entertain
And you have proved to be
Shit, I want to watch it again.
I mean it was probably a good show but who gives a shit about some random character from Rouge One who fricking dies? There's no future to look forward to I don't care how he got to the events of Rogue One....
Yet you sucked miles of dick to get Boba Fett resurrected. Hypocrite.
I hated fat Boba. The best "Book of Boba" episode was when Boba wasn't even in the fricking show
take your meds
Its not about Andor it's a romance.
Boy met a girl , boy got the girl roll credits
forever forever
will they frick?
After the space marriage on Bespo.