Don't point that out. Or that native guy who shows Jin the way of the noble savage. Cinemaphile is just where thirdies go to b***h about how woke first world media is; not a white person in sight here anymore.
Just give it a quick try. The writing is really dry (author is inspired by Tolstoy) and most characters are 1D anime-tier plot vehicles. It's all about game of theory autism, soft sci-fi. Has plot holes but is miles ahead of Goyflix, of course.
Good overall. Good, imaginative plots and universe-building but weak characters and weaker dialog.
Just give them a try in order. You can stop at the end of the first or second book and feel satisfied with the ending.
The third book has a passive POV character and is full of borderline schizo ranting about humanity with a lot of fantasy-tier exposition dumps about the nature and current state of the fabric of the universe. It nicely completes the "lore" of the series and offers closure but the story is the weakest of the three and a lot is retreaded from the second book.
book 3 is worth reading just for that moment when the autistic scientist falls into a miniature black hole and the insurance company argues that since he's technically alive from our point of view, they can legally refuse to pay his wife the life insurance money
I love 3 because the whole 4d grave they found being likely a 5d civilization, meaning every part of space is sort of decaying into a lower dimension anyway.
Yeah, the third book feels like it should have been appendix. It gives all the lore behind the universe and why it is the way it is, but its a very, very weak read from a narrative standpoint.
it's good but gets really weird at the end. I actually think the show did a better job of making this entertaining as the writer of the books is kind of dry.
The first two books are much better than the third, but it's because the main characters of the third book are ridiculously passive and everything just happens around them. It helps that the second book ends in a way where you could conclude the series there.
Someone needs to edit the third book and take out like 75% of it and only leave the parts relevant to the overarching plot. Remove the brain boy,. remove the star, remove every fricking thing except Australia and the feats of Blue Space and Gravity.
I completely agree. And while the Portrait of Annihilation or whatever they call the solar system being made 2D is a kino sequence , everything following it sucks because the scale is just too ridiculous. Like the black hole gravity threads that frick up the speed of light if you set off an engine too close to them, and Star Girl missing Brain Boy because of this so they both settle for their silver medals. And the pocket dimension crap with Sophon. I did like that both humans and Trisolarians survived until the end of the Universe I guess, but it's all so enormous at that point that I stopped caring. The end of Dark Forest where the aliens kneel like Vegeta at /our chink/'s keikaku is the real end of the series for me.
I only kind of liked the end because it reminded me of pic related, which began my love of sci-fi. I kind of like the idea of a regular person outliving the universe and conversing with some all-powerful creator type thing. But yeah, much of the book after the 2D folding was just pointless wank and could be cut.
Eh. It's ok. I haven't read the book, and I won't be reading it, but the show is ok. Not great, but ok. Would have been much better if it wasn't typical Netflix diversity slop. I mean it's set in england and there's like 3 white guys in the whole fricking thing and not even in every episode.
It's netflix so expect the aliens to be black as charcoal and they arrive on earth to show all the white men how to bathe themselves while the white women swoon over them.
The Trisolaran/Shan Ti homeworld is destroyed Some time later, the solar system is turned into a painting. Humanity managed to thrive in the galaxy for an undetermined amount of time. However, it's unclear if the Trisolaran/Shan Ti fleet managed to settle on another world after their homeworld was darkforested
both get wiped out by a 3rd party because their were "too loud" in their interstellar warfare
after that it gets really weird where 2 chinks spend eternity in a pocket dimension while the universe falls apart, survive a new big bang and then go out to explore the new universe because the author got bored or some shit, like halfway through he realized the dark forest is a moronic concept and too weak of a bedrock for a novel series but kept slogging through anyways because it was making money
because that anon is a homosexual, yes the ending is weak but there are plenty of good scifi moments and the dark forest theory is kino scifi and literal game theory. That homosexual has been watching too much marvel.
The third book ends with the Chinese lady and Sophon in a pocket dimension and they decide to leak matter back into the universe-at-large in the hope that there's a new big bang and the universe can restart again. I think the shit you're talking about where they leave the pocket dimension and find a new universe is from the 4th book which is literally just fan fiction.
>3 Body Problem is an American science fiction television series created by David Benioff, D. B. Weiss
Stopped reading there. Who the frick gave these morons another chance at running a tv show?
>Absolute. Masterpiece.
it's decent at best >Faithful to the book
Absolutely not. TV sophons are nothing like book sophons. Which is a gigantic plot hole. >hmm yes princeps we will send these extremely powerful computers the size of photons to earth, they can fry electronic devices but we will use them to frick with particle accelerators results instead so scientists will kill themselves believing that science is not real, lol, lmao even
The biggest book 1 plothole is the sophon in the sky (which is stated to be watered around the planet) not just blocking all sunlight for a week to freeze the humans. The only cope is that tri-lmaos were able to nuke their own rogue proton, so they must have assumed humans are capable of that as well.
That wasn't a rogue sophon in the book, it was a lower dimensional civilization that they accidentally unfolded into their dimension. Ohhh, okay. So the eye over earth wasn't evem a sophon. It just played on earth and went along for the ride there.
>not just blocking all sunlight for a week to freeze the humans
Oh, I hadn't thought of that, yeah, that's another way the tri-lmaos could have dealt with the humans until their fleet reached the solar system.
Or the sophons could just fry every computer on earth (as the "You're Bugs" scene in the TV show clearly demonstrates, the tv sophons can mess with electronic devices), plunging humanity into a new dark age, and not have to worry about humans discovering some shit with the particle accelerators that might put them on par with or beyond tri-lmaos technology.
The TV show is moronic.
They thought fear would destroy us. You remember the discussion with Mike? IDK if it makes sense but they are just trying to wrap their heads around how we work and what it means to interact with someone who can lie. They seem kinda moronic because they ARE kinda moronic in some ways.
The first volume tries its best to respect the "hard science fiction" side of things, the folding/unfolding of protons to make sophons is a big extrapolation of what we think is e stablished in string theory. Given this, the tri-lmaos cannot make a germ from a single proton.
Why can't they just unfold it inside of your heart or brain to induce a heart attack or stroke?
1 month ago
Anonymous
I'm under the impression it's a 2d plane when unfolded, so whatever effect a single photon has on things, it has even less. Not sure it even interacts with reality when unfolded aside from altering light, like what it did with Jin in space.
1 month ago
Anonymous
If it blocks light, it couples to the electromagnetic force and can influence electrons and hence atoms. After all, sophons can frick with our eyes and particle accelerators. So its seems like you could just block an artery in the heart. Or even if you can't, you could just fly it through someone a billion times a while interacting like they do the eye and induce brain cancer. Humans would all be dead of cancer by the time you arrive.
1 month ago
Anonymous
You should see my post
>accidents
And one of them brought a lower dimensional advanced civilization into theirs, which they had to fight. It created a giant eye; that was what unfolded over earth. It wasn't even a sophon it was some unknown other species. I say it just hitched a ride alongside the sophons to earth.
Perhaps they unfolded a fifth sophon near the sun which is just catching any broadcasts but is invisible, and that is when the eye got loose. I bet Saul will use the 290+ nukes from the staircase program to do an inverse morse code deterence signal from within the astroid belt this time. Could be the trisolars already think they have the sun blocked off so that is why they don't even care about killing us quickly or not. They aren't going to use the droplet for that this time.
If the sun is already blocked off and we can't produce a gravity broadcast system, then in their eyes we are already totally fricked. All they have to do is kill Saul so he doesn't figure out the dark forest, but even if he does he can't broadcast so 100% bugs at this point.
1 month ago
Anonymous
This is where it gets complicated, because a proton has an extremely low mass, and as described in the book in the chapter on Trisolaris, which describes the creation of sophons, it takes them several half-baked attempts, one of which explains that a photon has accidentally unfolded into one dimension, its size is close to several light years, but since it has practically no mass, it just makes pretty garlands that don't interact with matter. Or something like that.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Mass is irrelevant to how something couples electromagnetically. It just means you couldn't drop a sophon on top of someone and kill them. But you could still wedge it in an artery in their brain.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>accidents
And one of them brought a lower dimensional advanced civilization into theirs, which they had to fight. It created a giant eye; that was what unfolded over earth. It wasn't even a sophon it was some unknown other species. I say it just hitched a ride alongside the sophons to earth.
Perhaps they unfolded a fifth sophon near the sun which is just catching any broadcasts but is invisible, and that is when the eye got loose. I bet Saul will use the 290+ nukes from the staircase program to do an inverse morse code deterence signal from within the astroid belt this time. Could be the trisolars already think they have the sun blocked off so that is why they don't even care about killing us quickly or not. They aren't going to use the droplet for that this time.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>that was what unfolded over earth
book Giant Eye and tv Giant Eye are completely unrelated.
TV Giant Eye is just a half-assed attempt to adapt something from the book and make it "look cool" at the same time as the "you're bugs" moment, which, again, is an unredeemable plot hole, thanks to D&D.
Well they do make a whole global pandemic just to target Saul's DNA so he almost dies in the bunker, and is only saved in the future. Of course this was with the help of their people.
1 month ago
Anonymous
i think it's implied that the pathogen is produced on Earth by ETO remnants?
>Or the sophons could just fry every computer on earth, plunging humanity into a new dark age, and not have to worry about humans discovering some shit with the particle accelerators that might put them on par with or beyond tri-lmaos technology
We are bugs. Blocking our particle accelerator research is all you need. You don’t need to get creative when a droplet of your strength can frick up a human fleet 400-years in the making.
This. In the end, the only thing that worked against de-escalating the Trisolaran crisis and guaranteeing humanity’s galactic survival was the Wallfacer program.
why risk messing with scientific progress when you can just fry every electronic device on earth? The Sophons have been on Earth for many years now, so according to the TV canon, they should have guessed that nuking electronic devices might be a much more efficient way of preventing any technological/scientific boom that might hinder ayyys plans to conquer Earth, instead of just convincing scientists to kys.
>not just blocking all sunlight for a week to freeze the humans
Oh, I hadn't thought of that, yeah, that's another way the tri-lmaos could have dealt with the humans until their fleet reached the solar system.
Or the sophons could just fry every computer on earth (as the "You're Bugs" scene in the TV show clearly demonstrates, the tv sophons can mess with electronic devices), plunging humanity into a new dark age, and not have to worry about humans discovering some shit with the particle accelerators that might put them on par with or beyond tri-lmaos technology.
The TV show is moronic.
You can destroy them, in the books they were prepared for them unfolding again. I think they destroyed one I don't remember either way that strat doesn't work.
Because everyone misunderstands gravity. It isn't a force mediated by some particle, but rather an effect of mass slowing down time around it by warping the fabric of space time. Quantum mechanics then spergs out because it can't comprehend a force like interaction that isn't a force.
Good for you. I watched a few episodes and then continued reading the dark forest, I didn't really connect with the netflix show, I think it doesn't really land the sci-fi stuff that the books do
Tencent followed the first book very closely.
The netflix show has stuff from all three books in its first season. Cancer boy is not mentioned until book 3, for example.
I'm personally trying to avoid being a bookgay about things. I'm taking the show as its own thing.
I love the netflix show because I love book 3. I love Wade being here and working with Da Shi, I love how all of the characters are together. It is just unfortunate cancerboy had to also suck up so much of season 1 so we got literally zero wallfacer stuff!
Wade's great but Da Shi's character has been absolutely eviscerated with Wade being moved to book 1. He has zero relationship with the Oxford Five which leaves him with basically nothing to do except connect people to Wade who he takes all his orders from, and all of his best moments are stripped out or given away to other characters. His personality is totally different too which removes all the levity he adds to the story.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>relationship with the Oxford Five
Yea, but we'll get a lot of fun with him and Saul in the future. And he might even be the guy who takes care of Jin in Australia now.
>zero wallfacer stuff!
That looks really promising. I assume the cryo freezing works for all our protags? Auggie is probably gone for good tho. Da Shi was pretty cool. >we're practically brothers
and where have I heard Wade's voice before, Skeletor? King Randor?
1 month ago
Anonymous
Wade is in Game of Thrones as Ser Davos Seaworth.
Auggie is probably going with Jin to the future, taking part of AA's character. I doubt they're just going to drop her like Wang.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Auggie will be Luo Ji's b***h lasagna, come on > - I wish someone loved me like that > - Maybe someone already does
1 month ago
Anonymous
oh shit, you might be right though there's no way Netflix will go for the waifu plot as it stands. She'll likely end up both somehow, like how Wang was split into Jin and Auggie.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>there's no way Netflix will go for the waifu plot as it stands
and that's a good thing. I almost put down book 2 because of the whole imaginary girlfriend/tulpa arc. It's extremely boring and to this day I have no idea why china man writer decided to write such long, uninteresting prose about a frickboy and his brain waifu.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>Auggie
I have no fricking clue what they will do with her. I still say she will be frozen for large chunks of the show because that is required for Saul's arc, but she also has to be around Jin a lot because she'll fill in for her assistant, most likely.
Why do the trisolarians even need earth? Their tech seems advanced enough that they could just go full spaceborne species and live on ships/space stations.
Also, why don't they just live underground on their home planet? Once they were sufficiently advanced enough to have atomics, it seems like leaving underground in nuclear powered bunkers with UV greenhouses for agriculture seems vastly preferable than trying to endure the chaotic surface.
Their planet might collide with a star eventually. Also, a successful invasion of Earth will mean that humans can not threaten them anytime in the future. Also it means we can get a story involving humans.
Their tech is more advanced in the show than the book and the difference isn't accounted for. It's pretty clear that no one can realistically live on ships in the context of the original, and people just hibernate these long voyages in cold sleep instead.
They also gloss over all the details about their home planet's crisis but basically they expect that they'll eventually just be swallowed by a sun and everything underground will die too so it isn't an option for them.
Why can no one realistically live on ships? Planets are basically just large rocky ships, with most of the mass being wasted on subsurface rocks. The mass of planets actually works against life since planets attract asteroids and that is probably the most common cause of extinction events across all planets. Cigar tube ships like in Rendevous with Rama would actually be a much more stable way to live long term and the solarians seem more the capable of building those at their tech level.
They explore that in the books. I don't fully buy it but "people" cannot live in space; you turn into space maoists at the drop of a hat! But that's just ships. Space stations around planets, well... Let's just say that has a different, much flatter problem.
Earth is only 4 light years away, the closest system to theirs. Their planet will soon be engulfed by a sun or flung into deep space, living underground will not solve that. Also, in all likelihood, they do live underground as they have a flourishing advanced society at that point but it still won't save them.
As for the ships/stations later in the books, they do when their homeworld gets fricked
Why can no one realistically live on ships? Planets are basically just large rocky ships, with most of the mass being wasted on subsurface rocks. The mass of planets actually works against life since planets attract asteroids and that is probably the most common cause of extinction events across all planets. Cigar tube ships like in Rendevous with Rama would actually be a much more stable way to live long term and the solarians seem more the capable of building those at their tech level.
Trisolarans are extremely advanced at the start of the series, but they still don't have lightspeed travel and as Trisolaris is the only surviving non-star celestial body in their system so their material resources are limited to what's on their planet and presumably close-range asteroid mining. A massive habitable space station would face the same problems their planet does in the 3-star system.
The way I see it, their options were to either essentially destroy their planet to build one or more ark ships that would house them for tens of thousands of years until they find a stable system, or to do what they did. And what they did was much faster, less resource intensive, and promised an actual planet to live on.
I can't remember if the books even mention how the trisolarans generate power. Sure, they're pretty fricking advanced, being able to build devices made of quarks held together by the strong force, but even if they could build fusion reactors, the dark forest postulates that there's a finite amount of resources in the universe.
Extrapolating a bit, even if they can harvest energy from any form of matter itself remember the whole quark thing, how long can you hope to keep your civilisation thriving inside a giant cigar floating in space? Given the timescale reached by the end of the third book, even a few thousand years seems laughable.
Trisolaris can build magic stuff like sophons and doomdrops but only a limited number of them. They point out just how much of their resources are exhausted by these things
Aliens find out about Earth because Chinese lady loses faith in humanity. The aliens home system is totally fricked so they need ours. They deploy proton sized computers to frick our scientific progress.
In 400 years, they're supposed to arrive so humanity collectively freaks the frick out.
We manage to build upon our engineering prowess instead of more advanced science but it's not enough and the alien vanguard destroys our fleets with ease. Chinese waifu lover discovers how to send signals through the sun and alert other hostile and more advanced civs to our presence. Since the initial aliens want Earth intact, we hold them off with MAD. It fails because woman and Earth gets enslaved and eventually flattened (literally). The initial aliens frick off because they know we're fricked. Turns out the whole universe is also fricked because of global warming in space. Woman was also right all along.
brah that sounds dumb, what happened to the whole premise of wallfacers and circumventing the ayylien mind control? no way they would just set up this huge arc to throw it away
I thought you wanted a QRD for the book series. I left out a lot of stuff in that paragraph. The whole Wallfacer plot will be in the tv series, only the last episode involves it so far though. The Wallfacer project falls flat on its face through the Wallbreakers. The only one who succeeds is Luo Ji/Saul and he is the Chinese waifu man I spoke of that MAD's the Trisolarans.
Bro he's gonna use the staircase nukes this time! Nobody will see that coming! They changed it so it went off course after only like 2 nukes, so there will ALREADY be 200+ nukes in space he can use for MAD. Bet he'll wait until they reach the astroid belt so instead of blocking light from the sun it will let light out, so just inverse. They'll play it out like he is depressed and going back to look over why the project failed, when he is really just setting then up.
I bet one of the other Wallfacers will use the nukes. They've pretty much already set up the Star Plucking of the sun through Ye Wenjie's joke. The sun is Einstein's violin and the other aliens are God.
No, Wade thought it was moronic all along. Major spoiler he's gonna fricking shoot Jin because women are too emotional and compassionate and don't have what it takes for MAD, and surely not in the future when every other man is a troony, lol, which literally happens in the book.
> but if the aliens can mess with our computers
That's the whole bloody point, the Trisolarans can't mess with our computers in the books. They can in the TV show. Just for the sake of the rule of cool, D&D managed to make the plot completely nonsensical.
Well for one we use a space elevator and Wade already said they are building everything on the moon so that will stretch sophons kinda thin and sophons REALLY fear wade so we know they spend a lot of time trying to just stop him, alongside the 24/7 science denial. They have a hard job ahead of themselves.
They're not sabotaging the actual computers but the experiments themselves. The actual particles in the particle accelerator.
1 month ago
Anonymous
What if they mess with the particles in the rocket exhaust and it explodes? They've clearly shown that they can mess with planes in the air. It almost looked like they letting Wade go this time.
1 month ago
Anonymous
The plane thing is probably my biggest complaint about the sophons. They shouldn't have been able to do so. That being said, protons are really fricking small. There are protons hitting you day in and day out. They probably can't do much damage to rockets without concerted effort. They want to meet Yun Tianming/Will Downing anyway. Also, even at Earth's highest point in tech, it's not enough to matter. They don't need to waste the time killing rockets with sophons when a droplet can do that with ease. They only have a handful of sophons, they need them to stem the accelerators as that's where the real threat is - higher physics.
Well for one we use a space elevator and Wade already said they are building everything on the moon so that will stretch sophons kinda thin and sophons REALLY fear wade so we know they spend a lot of time trying to just stop him, alongside the 24/7 science denial. They have a hard job ahead of themselves.
Thrusters work by ejecting gasses which has obviously have mass. The whole point about the payload was that it had to be exceptionally light to achieve .01c.
I'm one of those nerds and I don't hate the character. My interpretation is that she is the divine feminine human spirit and Wade is the masculine spirit. The third book is about how women are always wrong but even when a woman is wrong she is still right. That's the divine quality of womankind and our species cannot be understood without reflecting upon this.
I don't understand, does Wade exist in the books as well ? Is he still a white guy or a chinese guy ? does he get together with the asian broad ?
IIRC he is introduced in the third book. He's one of the few white characters. He's not some big commander-in-chief type like in netflix but rather the ambitious leader of some section of some intelligence agency.
Yes, and he's white in the books, too. He shoots her and also gives her the first human FTL spacecraft to escape from the solar system iirc too. They're not really together together.
But is the asian chick from the netflix series the same character from the books ? Because I started watching the chinese series, does she appear in that one ? I'm at ep 15
1 month ago
Anonymous
Jin from the Netflix series is a composite of Wang (from book 1) and Cheng Xin (from book 3). Project Staircase is entirely from book 3 and isn't in the Tencent version yet but it does take place in book 1's era.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Okay you completely lost me, so the netflix adaption not only changes the characters, it also changes the timeline ? Were there moments from sez 1 that were supposed to happen in book 2 or 3 ?
1 month ago
Anonymous
Not really changes to the timeline. Everything in the books is not in chronological order.
1 month ago
Anonymous
So should I continue watching the chinese series ? I heard people here saying it's a 1:1 adaptation of the books
1 month ago
Anonymous
Up to you. I didn't care for it because it dragged on and on. Chinese tv shows are difficult to get into as a westerner. It is closer to the book but that is both a good and bad thing for this series.
I was genuinely shocked that noone had problem with killing children on board.
Auggie did but nobody gave a shit.
1 month ago
Anonymous
the chinese tv show isn't an adaptation, they used the first book as a literal script. You'll spend less time reading the book than watching the Tencent thing.
You can do 4D you just have a lot of clipping/slicing and shadow projections. You try 4D Toys? It's on Steam. It's a VR tool to interact with 4D objects.
Sure, but do you believe that netflix and D&D are gonna bother with that?
1 month ago
Anonymous
>Bother with 4D
The human computer was a leadup to the buiding of the sophon. The slicing on the ship will be referenced in 4D slices. I mean for Cheist's sake look at the scenes with the paper boats; the show is like non-stop foreshadowing. They said they want 4 seasons but can makedo with 3.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>The slicing on the ship will be referenced in 4D slices
?? it makes so little sense, you're not even wrong
1 month ago
Anonymous
You remember the scene where that guy is perving on the girl in her room and sees her cut on half by the 4d pocket, yet she is totally fine? This time you'll see people cut in half while they are perfectly fine. It'll probably even be the botox lips girl seeing it, even, as I just know they'll drag THESE kids all over the galaxy, even though that's not how it should go
1 month ago
Anonymous
china man writer had absolutely no idea what the frickl he was going to write in the third book while he was writing the first one. There's absolutely zero, cross-books, foreshadowing, you overthink it anon.
1 month ago
Anonymous
I am not saying he did, but this show is.
Look at the constant talk about fairy tales, which of course eventually makes sense. Look at how Saul brings up how he knows morse code and "Loads of shit". The paper boats. How are you missing all of this?
1 month ago
Anonymous
>constant talk about fairy tales
Have I missed something, because the only time brain in a jar man indirectly refers to fairy tales is in picrel, and it's not even mentioned or voiced, you just see the book cover for a few seconds, and it's clearly a nod to book readers, it hardly qualifies as foreshadowing, unless a very unlikely season 3 is signed off, with the actual scene from the book where brain main is allowed to communicate with weak china star woman, and from that moment only the most pedantic/moronic redditors will brag about MUH FORESHADOWING, because by then nobody will give a frick, and people who do give a frick will have had the time to read the book trilogy and not give a frick about the netflix dabid adaptation.
1 month ago
Anonymous
There is also Mike Evans reading fairy tales to the Trisolarans.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Why are you acting like foreshadowing only matters if people remember it? Most of the time foreshadowing goes over people's heads until a rewatch. It's still...foreshadowing.
1 month ago
Anonymous
My point is that foreshadowing is a cool trope when used carefully. Fatfrick GrrM relied a lot on foreshadowing when writing ASOIAF, and the common folk mistook foreshadowing for genius. Since D&D are also in charge of the 3BP adaptation, a certain amount of foreshadowing is to be expected, but china man writer actually did not rely on foreshadowing at any point in the trilogy, minus the fall of Constantinople and the 4D shit, which is described as a prologue for book 3, not book 2, not book 1, and the 4D shenanigans only happen in book 3. So again, as I said, you're overthinking it, and you're overestimating D&D's ability to adapt anything in a coherent and enjoyable way.
td;dr: you're autistic
1 month ago
Anonymous
>Paper boats >Fish >Fairy tales >Ocean
It's all massive foreshadowing. IDK what your problem is. Mike reading the fairy tale, and I can't recall off the top of my head but I think other people bring up fairy tales, also. Cancerboy is rarely seen without his book, paper boats, his fish, or near the ocean.
1 month ago
Anonymous
The timeline doesn't change, the books aren't quite in sequential order. Books 2 and 3 have parts that are set in the current day (aka book 1 era) and the Netflix series brings them in roughly where they should be. Most of the "Oxford 5" are either straight taken from those books or are merged. Saul is the main character from book 2, and Jin is basically the main character from book 3. Imo, it was the right move instead of introducing totally new characters for future seasons.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Each chapter in the book has an "era" and a "year" in its name. Books 2 and 3 have different characters doing different things in the same eras and years. Netflix is instead choosing to do its series chronologically, meaning storylines from book 2 and 3 both show up in season 1. Think of how GoT would show Jon and Jaime in the same episode.
So should I continue watching the chinese series ? I heard people here saying it's a 1:1 adaptation of the books
Chinese series is a terrible slog. It does carbon copy the characters and apparently ALL the dialogue from the book and it does seem to be taking things in book order. I don't think that makes for compelling TV but if you want to read the books without actually reading the books it's probably your best bet.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Almost no character is taken straigth from the book to the netflix show. Often it's many characters fused into one.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>Almost no character is taken straigth from the book to the netflix show
So we have:
Da Shi as Da Shi
Thomas Wade as Thomas Wade
Cheng Xin as Cheng Xin
Yun Tianming as Will Downing
Luo Ji as Saul Durand
Wang Miao as Auggie Salazar
the fat frick from GoT as no one cares
yeah it really is indistinguishable from the book
I didn't think much about her at first but by the end of the season I was completetly in love with her. Great energy. You can tell the actress had fun.
well that's quite the achievement, considering she's one of the most hated characters in the entire trilogy, according to the nerds who read the books before netflix announced they were gonna adapt the shit
I'm one of those nerds and I don't hate the character. My interpretation is that she is the divine feminine human spirit and Wade is the masculine spirit. The third book is about how women are always wrong but even when a woman is wrong she is still right. That's the divine quality of womankind and our species cannot be understood without reflecting upon this.
you know that Cheng Xin is a female character because the editor told china man to have a female protagonist for his third book, right?
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I don't understand, does Wade exist in the books as well ? Is he still a white guy or a chinese guy ? does he get together with the asian broad ?
He's introduced in the third book, just like Luo Ji/Saul Black personman was introduced in the second book. This is one of the few things that D&D got right; instead of adapting the trilogy book by book, they aimed to adapt the whole trilogy, sparing us so many, many back and forth between timelines and other retcons.
Nerds Cinemaphile aren't the general public and the idea that the author/books hate women is just ridiculous. The character they're upset with is not portrayed negatively in the slightest.
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I don't understand, does Wade exist in the books as well ? Is he still a white guy or a chinese guy ? does he get together with the asian broad ?
He's a major character in the last book and is a white American. As all Americans are in the series, he IS portrayed negatively.
> The character they're upset with is not portrayed negatively in the slightest.
Not in the meta narrative but iirc many of the characters she encounters hate her guts for fricking up as Swordholder. I think that confuses some people.
>nd the idea that the author/books hate women is just ridiculous
No one said the author hated women, the consensus used to be that the author didn't know how to write an appealing female protagonist.
Lol no. He is not portrayed negatively at all. In fact all non-chinese are portrayed positively except maybe for the south american nuclear enthusiast.
>sadistic >violent >power-hungry >self-important
He's an antagonist. There is some ambiguity in Cheng's feelings towards him by the end but he's not a good dude.
1 month ago
Anonymous
He's not a "nice guy". He's ruthless but good.
Liam Cunningham is maybe a bit too "friendly-looking" to play the part but he does a good job.
1 month ago
Anonymous
He is 'good' in the same way as all dark forest hunter civilizations are 'good'. Which is to say, the bane of all existence.
Yeah. There is also white wallfacer who has an Asian wife but then, because WMAF trolling has mindbroken every Asian man on the planet, his hot Asian waifu turns out to be his wallbreaker. U NO TAK ASIAN WOMEN DIRTY GAIJIN!!!!
Wasn't that woman a jap? Do chinese feel protective over them?
1 month ago
Anonymous
I said Asian but yeah she was.
IDK. I've only known like 6 Asian men in my life and 3 Asian women. The tall Asian man was chill and dated white women; the short ones were bitter incels. Every Asian woman I've ever known dated/married a white guy
1 month ago
Anonymous
My impression is that "asians" only really exist in America. No one in Asia is "asian".
I am white, I like watching movies/tv series and reading books with white characters, I also am not a big fan of black people. That being said, is it worth it watching this series, or wathing the chinese version, or even reading the books ? I don't really need deep characters, but I want some nice world building.
Im also white, i like hard sci fi stuff and speculating over it, it also shits on the chi coms and the transhumanists get btfo, it feels like a sci fi game of thrones (the ayys being white walkers) but its also netflix and DnD so it may completely shit the bed later on
I only have three minor complaints.
1. The red guards being shocked and silenced when they realize they killed the guy. They should just have screamed more slogans and brought on the next victim. The show made them appear a little bit more timid than they should but I do understand that the chinese are still butthurt about this scene being included. Most normies in the west will be completely unfamiliar with the cultural revolution before they see this scene.
2. Ye Wenjie. A lot of her story was cut. I didn't like how she appeared to be shocked and regretful once trisolaris "true nature" was revealed or whatever.
3. Wade never dropped the kino line "We'll send only a brain."
TV Ye is a different character from book Ye. She's more of a villain and is down with the ETO until the end. My guess is they cut the rest of the Red Coast stuff because they thought it would confuse the audience that is expecting sci-fi and they probably wanted to minimize the runtime they were using subtitles for.
Yes. He hates the aliens so much that when a woman moment dooms the human race literally one second after she is given control, the aliens say that they were afraid Wade would be given control instead of her because he would have 100% fricked them in their dry buttholes
utilmately the fact that weak chinese woman didn't triggered the dark forest deterrence allowed BASED Thomas Wade to develop the curvature propulsion ship that ironically saved weak chinese woman from becoming a painting
Running out of source material wasn't the only problem, with each season GoT was getting worse and worse and worse.
But perhaps 3body is easier to adapt
>But perhaps 3body is easier to adapt
Frick no. Read the books. Book 2, if adapted with any degree of fidelity, will be a CGI horror galore, no matter what the budget.
Some scenes in book 3 are completely, utterly unadaptable. You can't represent 4D space in any meaningful way unless you opt for some gay Pink Floyd DMT stoner fractal shit, and for the record I do like Pink Floyd.
You can do 4D you just have a lot of clipping/slicing and shadow projections. You try 4D Toys? It's on Steam. It's a VR tool to interact with 4D objects.
Up to you. I didn't care for it because it dragged on and on. Chinese tv shows are difficult to get into as a westerner. It is closer to the book but that is both a good and bad thing for this series.
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Auggie did but nobody gave a shit.
>Auggie did but nobody gave a shit.
Did she? Not once we got a >There were CHILDREN there! Children!
or something from her
Did you miss the close up of the kid's foot and the subsequent binge drinking??? She calls Wade and Raj fascists for their actions. She nearly has a breakdown and flees to some spanish shithole.
That was the only moment that had a faithful adaptation. It was more or less how I imagined it when I read the book. I imagined something more like "people stop being alive and then fall into pieces" à la Resident Evil laser scene, rather than being brutally chopped in half with gore and shit. Still a great scene though.
3 Body problem is for STEM audience. Like who else is interested in watching computer plotting single value for 10 minutes ? Of course Netflix made it watchable for people without mental issues.
Aliens from across the galaxy screw with particle accelerators to stop human scientific advancement so humanity is easy to defeat in 400 years when they arrive.
Aliens can manipulate events on Earth at the subatomic level and choose to do the above instead of killing every human leaving the planet defenceless.
The premise to this show makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. There are endless plotholes and glossed over critical details. Frick this show and its writers. -100/10 do not recommend.
Not by much, and anyway you said "at first". We get to read the records of their leader's first reaction to humanity and it was that we must be destroyed.
The Adventists opinion is the only one that matter. They were the only ones that had real time communication with Trisolaris.
That wasn't me, and besides, "at first" they didn't. Only once they find out about the concept of lies do they decide to exterminate us (and again change their minds a few more times). They'd been talking with us for quite some time before that point.
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Anonymous
From the interrogation of the listener of post 1379, just after first contact.
>Princeps, Trisolaran civilization’s desire to possess living space is like the desire of a man who has been starving for a long time for food, and it is similarly boundless. We cannot share the Earth with the people of that world. We could only destroy Earth civilization and completely take over that solar system.… Am I right?
>Yes. But there is another reason for destroying Earth civilization. They’re also a warlike race. Very dangerous. If we try to coexist with them on the same planet, they will shortly learn our technology. Continuing in that state would allow neither civilization to thrive.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Fair enough. I still say there's enough other evidence that they were just plain wishy washy about their intentions to annihilate us.
1 month ago
Anonymous
They wind up loving our culture, and even write movie scripts that surpass our own best. Kind of like how Cinemaphile is now full of non-western thirdies who love western freedom of speech, so they use our website.
1 month ago
Anonymous
I thought that was all a ruse - that the Trisolarians liked Earth culture and were making art for us. Like a way to trick us into lowering our guard ahead of them going ape shit with the Australia plan in Book 3.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Australia was itself a huge risk born of them growing to like us. They also had to deal with their own public opinion, which was becoming more democratic and allowed free speech. You could say that was also a trick, but not killing us WAS
a huge risk!
1 month ago
Anonymous
This all assumes they were telling the truth in their communications with Earth. I felt a big plot point was them developing a sense of deception and the capacity to lie, such as hiding those tear drops in the asteroid belt for the second the Chinese Star Girl became the Swordholder
1 month ago
Anonymous
Hmm. So you're saying the point was to get us all to Aus so they can exterminate us all at once? It's possible, but there is no real evidence they had that final plan, and the fact they left the solar system without having their droplets destroy earth's core or whatever, is also not in line with them still seeing us as merely bugs.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Yes, I think this is the case. I felt it was an obvious extension of the Dark Forest theory of kill or be killed. As long as any human beings remained, they would be a threat to Trisolarians. This all being said, the Trisolarians didn't retaliate after their system was destroyed by immediately broadcasting Earth's position as I had assumed they would, so you might be right in that regard.
1 month ago
Anonymous
At this point, their cultural prostate is so titillated that they no longer give a frick about the survival of humanity. They sent their droplets to escort a human ship to seek & destroy the last remaining ship with some sort of dark forest deterrent emitter, but they get buttfricked in literal 4D.
Wrong, they do not care about humanity at first. They do develop a kind of curiosity about the concept of 'culture' during the Deterrence Era, but in the end they just wait and deceive humanity until Luo ji gives up the sword position. Then Australia.
They learn how to lie. They wind up lying more and more as it goes on. I don't actully know if the Trisolars even have the cleansing gene, is that ever confirmed? They just know everyone else has it.
Realistically, a proton could only do so much damage. You're bombarded by protons on a daily basis and you're still alive. They allude to it in the tv series. They probably could kill a few people (maybe even quite a few) but that would take from their ability to frick up the particle accelerators and potentially give humanity a chance to devise a countermeasure. The netflix series does embellish what they can do a bit. It's unlikely they'd be able to frick around with Wade's plane all that much.
>woke diversity MUH REPRESENTATION types >erase all asian men from the cast except a fat diabetic boomer with a homosexual son >give all the boomer's screen time to other characters anyway
I hate you fricking woke hypocrites
I hate they de-Chineseified it so much, and I say that as someone who despises China in general. But the book is fundamentally Chinese and the show should be too.
I hate they de-Chineseified it so much, and I say that as someone who despises China in general. But the book is fundamentally Chinese and the show should be too.
>woke diversity MUH REPRESENTATION types >erase all asian men
Checks out, they all come from the progressive strain of Puritanism. Some of the most racist shit I have ever heard against Asians comes from these sorts of people
>This show is for an English-speaking, mostly American audience..
Explains why the main character's black. American culture revolves around worshipping blacks. See [...]
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You homosexuals are fricking pathetic.
I hope you live to see the second season of the TV show, if it's ever produced, so you can witness a future where flying cars and tesla shit power everything, but every male minus the few who have gone through the hibernation process is a weak, tiny wiener, submissive femboy.
I'm not surprised that's the interpretation you get from the books, you mentally ill homosexual.
1 month ago
Anonymous
But that's what happens and is ultimately shunned? Or even played for comedic effect,I can't tell with the chink whether some stuff was supposed to be a critique or a joke.
1 month ago
Anonymous
If you've somehow misinterpreted the dialogue between Da Shi & Luo Ji (assuming you've read the books) about the current state of the world at the end of the crisis era, and completely missed the point that since humanity has gained so much self-confidence with its somewhat technological progress and fleet of spaceships, and everyone living in these underground tree cities is some sort of gender-fluid homosexual, I can only assume that you're a severely closeted homosexual who can't accept any hint of sissy homosexualy because you're afraid of what you are.
You're a fricking homosexual, got get fricked in the ass somewhere else.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>"If you don't fantasize about a future sissy homosexual society you're the homosexual!"
LOL
1 month ago
Anonymous
If you can't tell the difference between a readable description of a hypothetical future where everyone is a sissy homosexual and your own fantasies, I've got bad news for you anon.
Do some more sissy hypnosis and leave us alone.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>"No you don't get it the future is supposed to be full of sissy homosexuals! That's the future I see in my fantasies!"
Okay. So?
1 month ago
Anonymous
You're a despicable homosexual who projects your own illness onto everyone else.
Get lost, I fricking despise your kind, I'd rather eat bugs than suffer another second of your disgusting homosexualry.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>You're a despicable homosexual who projects your own illness onto everyone else.
This is your post homosexual
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I hope you live to see the second season of the TV show, if it's ever produced, so you can witness a future where flying cars and tesla shit power everything, but every male minus the few who have gone through the hibernation process is a weak, tiny wiener, submissive femboy.
You HOPE to see sissy homosexual shit in the 2nd season. moron.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Jesus fricking christ
This is the literal description of humanity straight from the book. If you want to blame someone, blame the chinese author, or keep projecting your illness.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>projecting
You keep using that word while admitting YOU'RE THE ONE who HOPES to see sissy homosexual shit. That's what YOU want and you keep talking about wanting it. Fricking gay wienersucking idiot. homosexual homosexual.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Right, now tell me about your relationship with your father. Or with one of your uncles.
1 month ago
Anonymous
No gay shit in any of those to fuel your fantasies bruh. Try asking one of your buttbuddies, homosexual.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Anon, if you want to get fricked, you can do it completely anonymously by installing a homosexual dating app, you will meet another sick man near where you live who will give you AIDS, and you will stop bothering us with boards and threads that have absolutely nothing to do with the disease you're suffering from.
Maybe then you'll find some sort of meaning in your life by being a victim of gay cancer and that's it, that's the end game, you're a victim and you should be celebrated for letting your inane tendencies override what might have been some sort of will.
Go to your nearest church and, if you're so inclined, you might just be saved from the filthy, disgusting disease that's eating away at your soul and your arse.
1 month ago
Anonymous
You seem to know a lot about getting fricked in the ass anonymously. Just saying.
1 month ago
Anonymous
He thinks about it a lot. Some gays get off on the taboo aspect of it all; they WANT it to be taboo, it's their kink.
1 month ago
Anonymous
I have a social life and I've been through many companies and circles of friends and most of the time you'll stumble upon "that flamboyant gay" and if you show any sign of sympathy, even a faint smile, they'll tell you their stories of homosexualry. Believe it or not, I even know a guy, a close friend of my younger sister, the guy was a teacher and at one point he felt confident enough to tell me that he had fricked one of his students. He was a teacher in some sort of community college equivalent in the country where I live, but still, the boy was barely legal. Later that night he told me all about gay apps. Apparently even grindr is too prudish for rough bareback, but they always find a way to get fricked, it's like a giant anal masonry without the occult shit.
I was just referring to the chinese POV, and yet somehow you're the one who brought black dicks into the discussion.
Projecting much? Let me guess, you're a US citizen?
>I was just referring to the chinese POV
UHHH YOU CHINESE YOU DICK SMALL?!
You asian?
Is it true you have tiny dicks?
In the context of woke changes to the cast. You're such a disingenuous little homosexual.
>and yet somehow you're the one who brought black dicks into the discussion.
I'm not the one that's posting BBC memes or worshipping the decision to replace Luo Ji with a black male you disingenuous c**t. >Projecting much
Look at what you posted you dumb frick.
Cinemaphile is overrun with paid foreign agents who are instructed to turn every discussion you can think of into a political culture war thing, so we have no escape from it. They think that'll bring about a racewar or some shit. And also some of our own useful idiots do it for free, for them. Just ignore 'em.
>This show is for an English-speaking, mostly American audience..
Explains why the main character's black. American culture revolves around worshipping blacks. See
They just frick with the light, like those laser shows. They can't mess with/fully read the human mind because the lore says the mind, deep down, relies upon quantum physics. Except for the mental seal, I guess.
Not in the brain, just in the retina.
It's even emphasised in the first book, as sophons can also alter the light that reaches the film, so book Wang Miao (TV Auggie) also sees the countdown when he takes pictures with his film camera.
Why the FRICK did they kill Jack?
Holy SHIT the dude was the most realistic character and a good way to balance all the depressive shit from the main cast.
find out more about the Khmer Rouge. It's an even more hardcore version than Maoist China. The simple fact of wearing glasses condemned you to the torture camp, because obviously wearing glasses makes you an intellectual, and therefore a danger to communism.
I asked and yes it was entirely true, however physicists were actually spared since they were trying to make their own bomb, also the daughter hae to also denounce her father if she wanted to live and not her head bashed in too.
D&D did some good changes tbqh, because the book characters were paper thin
i read the books years ago, and i did watch the tencent series recently, but i was still taken by surprise (in a good way) as they revealed that the characters were ones i knew from book2+3. initially i thought they just split up the nanofibre guy into a team.
the problem is, they cast this b***h with lip fillers so big she cant even close her mouth....
Huh? No, Singer kills us, and he is some beyond-our-comprehension species. Trisolars, at least as far as our solar system goes and just their fleet, leaves us alone.
>I witness the downfall of Western hegemony as I suck on a tiny asian penis that comes in my mouth in 3 seconds.
brought it up and ANOTHER crybaby Asian came in to complain about "Asian male genocide".
The books had WMAF, the show has WMAF; reality is just WMAF and they should grow used to it.
You should have listened to me in the last thread. No one is falling for your shilling here because what you're pushing is ridiculous to us. Now you're flailing about in desperation. Something is wrong with you, clearly. You've spent hours defending this slop like your paycheck depends on it and to no avail. Go ahead and throw me a cope reply if you want. I won't be reading it.
were there blacks in the book
Don't point that out. Or that native guy who shows Jin the way of the noble savage. Cinemaphile is just where thirdies go to b***h about how woke first world media is; not a white person in sight here anymore.
there were black holes
>black holes
>destroy everything they touch
what the FRICK did tolkein mean by this?
No it was mostly Chinese and a few whites and one Australian aboriginal.
>Faithful to the book, too!
I thought so too! Can't wait to read them someday.
in the original Chinese?
>Black folk
no thanks, enjoy the slop goy
Are the books worth it? The idea seems pretty interesting but I hate chinkshit.
Just give it a quick try. The writing is really dry (author is inspired by Tolstoy) and most characters are 1D anime-tier plot vehicles. It's all about game of theory autism, soft sci-fi. Has plot holes but is miles ahead of Goyflix, of course.
Yes but they're also full of "chink shit".
Good overall. Good, imaginative plots and universe-building but weak characters and weaker dialog.
Just give them a try in order. You can stop at the end of the first or second book and feel satisfied with the ending.
The third book has a passive POV character and is full of borderline schizo ranting about humanity with a lot of fantasy-tier exposition dumps about the nature and current state of the fabric of the universe. It nicely completes the "lore" of the series and offers closure but the story is the weakest of the three and a lot is retreaded from the second book.
book 3 is worth reading just for that moment when the autistic scientist falls into a miniature black hole and the insurance company argues that since he's technically alive from our point of view, they can legally refuse to pay his wife the life insurance money
I love 3 because the whole 4d grave they found being likely a 5d civilization, meaning every part of space is sort of decaying into a lower dimension anyway.
Don't they outright say that at the end?
The 4D scene was one of my favorite parts of the whole series
Yeah, the third book feels like it should have been appendix. It gives all the lore behind the universe and why it is the way it is, but its a very, very weak read from a narrative standpoint.
it's good but gets really weird at the end. I actually think the show did a better job of making this entertaining as the writer of the books is kind of dry.
The books are better than any adaptation will ever be. The Dark Forest will never be adapted correctly, so just read the books.
>100 pages of Luo Ji sitting in bed jerking off to an imaginary waifu
Lol. No.
>Two boring chapters? TWO?! Book is trash
Have your brain evaluated.
The first two books are much better than the third, but it's because the main characters of the third book are ridiculously passive and everything just happens around them. It helps that the second book ends in a way where you could conclude the series there.
Someone needs to edit the third book and take out like 75% of it and only leave the parts relevant to the overarching plot. Remove the brain boy,. remove the star, remove every fricking thing except Australia and the feats of Blue Space and Gravity.
Nah. It's cringekino. And I really really like the spy fables concept.
I completely agree. And while the Portrait of Annihilation or whatever they call the solar system being made 2D is a kino sequence , everything following it sucks because the scale is just too ridiculous. Like the black hole gravity threads that frick up the speed of light if you set off an engine too close to them, and Star Girl missing Brain Boy because of this so they both settle for their silver medals. And the pocket dimension crap with Sophon. I did like that both humans and Trisolarians survived until the end of the Universe I guess, but it's all so enormous at that point that I stopped caring. The end of Dark Forest where the aliens kneel like Vegeta at /our chink/'s keikaku is the real end of the series for me.
I only kind of liked the end because it reminded me of pic related, which began my love of sci-fi. I kind of like the idea of a regular person outliving the universe and conversing with some all-powerful creator type thing. But yeah, much of the book after the 2D folding was just pointless wank and could be cut.
Eh. It's ok. I haven't read the book, and I won't be reading it, but the show is ok. Not great, but ok. Would have been much better if it wasn't typical Netflix diversity slop. I mean it's set in england and there's like 3 white guys in the whole fricking thing and not even in every episode.
Currently watching the chinese one, netflix can go suck a Black person dick
Can a bookgay tell me whats going to happen next? Who will win the ayys or mankind?
It's netflix so expect the aliens to be black as charcoal and they arrive on earth to show all the white men how to bathe themselves while the white women swoon over them.
moron
We win, then they win, then they lose, then we lose.
So its a stalemate or at the end the ayys win and its over for us?
The Trisolaran/Shan Ti homeworld is destroyed
Some time later, the solar system is turned into a painting.
Humanity managed to thrive in the galaxy for an undetermined amount of time.
However, it's unclear if the Trisolaran/Shan Ti fleet managed to settle on another world after their homeworld was darkforested
both get wiped out by a 3rd party because their were "too loud" in their interstellar warfare
after that it gets really weird where 2 chinks spend eternity in a pocket dimension while the universe falls apart, survive a new big bang and then go out to explore the new universe because the author got bored or some shit, like halfway through he realized the dark forest is a moronic concept and too weak of a bedrock for a novel series but kept slogging through anyways because it was making money
Thats not very motivating to watch or read tbh
because that anon is a homosexual, yes the ending is weak but there are plenty of good scifi moments and the dark forest theory is kino scifi and literal game theory. That homosexual has been watching too much marvel.
The third book ends with the Chinese lady and Sophon in a pocket dimension and they decide to leak matter back into the universe-at-large in the hope that there's a new big bang and the universe can restart again. I think the shit you're talking about where they leave the pocket dimension and find a new universe is from the 4th book which is literally just fan fiction.
You forgot the guy from the descendant of one of the ships that managed to escape from the solar system before it was van-goghed.
>3 Body Problem is an American science fiction television series created by David Benioff, D. B. Weiss
Stopped reading there. Who the frick gave these morons another chance at running a tv show?
>5 Chuddy Problem
>Absolute. Masterpiece.
it's decent at best
>Faithful to the book
Absolutely not. TV sophons are nothing like book sophons. Which is a gigantic plot hole.
>hmm yes princeps we will send these extremely powerful computers the size of photons to earth, they can fry electronic devices but we will use them to frick with particle accelerators results instead so scientists will kill themselves believing that science is not real, lol, lmao even
The biggest book 1 plothole is the sophon in the sky (which is stated to be watered around the planet) not just blocking all sunlight for a week to freeze the humans. The only cope is that tri-lmaos were able to nuke their own rogue proton, so they must have assumed humans are capable of that as well.
*Wrapped
That wasn't a rogue sophon in the book, it was a lower dimensional civilization that they accidentally unfolded into their dimension. Ohhh, okay. So the eye over earth wasn't evem a sophon. It just played on earth and went along for the ride there.
>not just blocking all sunlight for a week to freeze the humans
Oh, I hadn't thought of that, yeah, that's another way the tri-lmaos could have dealt with the humans until their fleet reached the solar system.
Or the sophons could just fry every computer on earth (as the "You're Bugs" scene in the TV show clearly demonstrates, the tv sophons can mess with electronic devices), plunging humanity into a new dark age, and not have to worry about humans discovering some shit with the particle accelerators that might put them on par with or beyond tri-lmaos technology.
The TV show is moronic.
They thought fear would destroy us. You remember the discussion with Mike? IDK if it makes sense but they are just trying to wrap their heads around how we work and what it means to interact with someone who can lie. They seem kinda moronic because they ARE kinda moronic in some ways.
It would be easier to just engineer a virus that either kills everyone or makes humans infertile. The planet remains unharmed.
The first volume tries its best to respect the "hard science fiction" side of things, the folding/unfolding of protons to make sophons is a big extrapolation of what we think is e stablished in string theory. Given this, the tri-lmaos cannot make a germ from a single proton.
Why can't they just unfold it inside of your heart or brain to induce a heart attack or stroke?
I'm under the impression it's a 2d plane when unfolded, so whatever effect a single photon has on things, it has even less. Not sure it even interacts with reality when unfolded aside from altering light, like what it did with Jin in space.
If it blocks light, it couples to the electromagnetic force and can influence electrons and hence atoms. After all, sophons can frick with our eyes and particle accelerators. So its seems like you could just block an artery in the heart. Or even if you can't, you could just fly it through someone a billion times a while interacting like they do the eye and induce brain cancer. Humans would all be dead of cancer by the time you arrive.
You should see my post
If the sun is already blocked off and we can't produce a gravity broadcast system, then in their eyes we are already totally fricked. All they have to do is kill Saul so he doesn't figure out the dark forest, but even if he does he can't broadcast so 100% bugs at this point.
This is where it gets complicated, because a proton has an extremely low mass, and as described in the book in the chapter on Trisolaris, which describes the creation of sophons, it takes them several half-baked attempts, one of which explains that a photon has accidentally unfolded into one dimension, its size is close to several light years, but since it has practically no mass, it just makes pretty garlands that don't interact with matter. Or something like that.
Mass is irrelevant to how something couples electromagnetically. It just means you couldn't drop a sophon on top of someone and kill them. But you could still wedge it in an artery in their brain.
>accidents
And one of them brought a lower dimensional advanced civilization into theirs, which they had to fight. It created a giant eye; that was what unfolded over earth. It wasn't even a sophon it was some unknown other species. I say it just hitched a ride alongside the sophons to earth.
Perhaps they unfolded a fifth sophon near the sun which is just catching any broadcasts but is invisible, and that is when the eye got loose. I bet Saul will use the 290+ nukes from the staircase program to do an inverse morse code deterence signal from within the astroid belt this time. Could be the trisolars already think they have the sun blocked off so that is why they don't even care about killing us quickly or not. They aren't going to use the droplet for that this time.
>that was what unfolded over earth
book Giant Eye and tv Giant Eye are completely unrelated.
TV Giant Eye is just a half-assed attempt to adapt something from the book and make it "look cool" at the same time as the "you're bugs" moment, which, again, is an unredeemable plot hole, thanks to D&D.
Well they do make a whole global pandemic just to target Saul's DNA so he almost dies in the bunker, and is only saved in the future. Of course this was with the help of their people.
i think it's implied that the pathogen is produced on Earth by ETO remnants?
>Or the sophons could just fry every computer on earth, plunging humanity into a new dark age, and not have to worry about humans discovering some shit with the particle accelerators that might put them on par with or beyond tri-lmaos technology
We are bugs. Blocking our particle accelerator research is all you need. You don’t need to get creative when a droplet of your strength can frick up a human fleet 400-years in the making.
We are bugs.
This. In the end, the only thing that worked against de-escalating the Trisolaran crisis and guaranteeing humanity’s galactic survival was the Wallfacer program.
why risk messing with scientific progress when you can just fry every electronic device on earth? The Sophons have been on Earth for many years now, so according to the TV canon, they should have guessed that nuking electronic devices might be a much more efficient way of preventing any technological/scientific boom that might hinder ayyys plans to conquer Earth, instead of just convincing scientists to kys.
You can destroy them, in the books they were prepared for them unfolding again. I think they destroyed one I don't remember either way that strat doesn't work.
Frick off shill
Plot doesn't make any sense. Why doesn't the largest body simply eat the two smaller bodies? What exactly is the 'problem' here?
Extremely underrated post
The first episode was trash.
>I hecking love science so much even though I understand nothing about it
>I would die for einstein
Black scientists is where I draw the line for my suspension of disbelief.
Dropped 5 minutes into the first episode.
Girlbossess
Blacks
Botox bloated-faced roastie
Nope
are torrents to this show out? only thing i find is 1 year old ching chong version
>torrents
Use Usenet you moronic boomer.
I got it from 1337x
Yes it was on torrents the day it released and I don't mean private. It's a skill issue.
While we're in the science mood, can anyone explain why GR and QM aren't compatible and why they need to be compatible in the first place?
Because everyone misunderstands gravity. It isn't a force mediated by some particle, but rather an effect of mass slowing down time around it by warping the fabric of space time. Quantum mechanics then spergs out because it can't comprehend a force like interaction that isn't a force.
Why don't you publish and win the Nobel?
Has anyone seen the anime? Is it even anime if it's made in China? it looked pretty confusing
I liked the books. I liked the tencent show. And I liked the netflix show as well.
Can't wait to get more seasons both from tencent and netflix.
Good for you. I watched a few episodes and then continued reading the dark forest, I didn't really connect with the netflix show, I think it doesn't really land the sci-fi stuff that the books do
Did the tencent show also end at the same point?
I wanna see more. Somehow I doubt the space cancer cuck is really dead.
Tencent followed the first book very closely.
The netflix show has stuff from all three books in its first season. Cancer boy is not mentioned until book 3, for example.
I'm personally trying to avoid being a bookgay about things. I'm taking the show as its own thing.
Thanks anon.
I love the netflix show because I love book 3. I love Wade being here and working with Da Shi, I love how all of the characters are together. It is just unfortunate cancerboy had to also suck up so much of season 1 so we got literally zero wallfacer stuff!
Wade's great but Da Shi's character has been absolutely eviscerated with Wade being moved to book 1. He has zero relationship with the Oxford Five which leaves him with basically nothing to do except connect people to Wade who he takes all his orders from, and all of his best moments are stripped out or given away to other characters. His personality is totally different too which removes all the levity he adds to the story.
>relationship with the Oxford Five
Yea, but we'll get a lot of fun with him and Saul in the future. And he might even be the guy who takes care of Jin in Australia now.
>zero wallfacer stuff!
That looks really promising. I assume the cryo freezing works for all our protags? Auggie is probably gone for good tho. Da Shi was pretty cool.
>we're practically brothers
and where have I heard Wade's voice before, Skeletor? King Randor?
Wade is in Game of Thrones as Ser Davos Seaworth.
Auggie is probably going with Jin to the future, taking part of AA's character. I doubt they're just going to drop her like Wang.
Auggie will be Luo Ji's b***h lasagna, come on
> - I wish someone loved me like that
> - Maybe someone already does
oh shit, you might be right though there's no way Netflix will go for the waifu plot as it stands. She'll likely end up both somehow, like how Wang was split into Jin and Auggie.
>there's no way Netflix will go for the waifu plot as it stands
and that's a good thing. I almost put down book 2 because of the whole imaginary girlfriend/tulpa arc. It's extremely boring and to this day I have no idea why china man writer decided to write such long, uninteresting prose about a frickboy and his brain waifu.
>Auggie
I have no fricking clue what they will do with her. I still say she will be frozen for large chunks of the show because that is required for Saul's arc, but she also has to be around Jin a lot because she'll fill in for her assistant, most likely.
Why do the trisolarians even need earth? Their tech seems advanced enough that they could just go full spaceborne species and live on ships/space stations.
Also, why don't they just live underground on their home planet? Once they were sufficiently advanced enough to have atomics, it seems like leaving underground in nuclear powered bunkers with UV greenhouses for agriculture seems vastly preferable than trying to endure the chaotic surface.
Their planet might collide with a star eventually. Also, a successful invasion of Earth will mean that humans can not threaten them anytime in the future. Also it means we can get a story involving humans.
Their tech is more advanced in the show than the book and the difference isn't accounted for. It's pretty clear that no one can realistically live on ships in the context of the original, and people just hibernate these long voyages in cold sleep instead.
They also gloss over all the details about their home planet's crisis but basically they expect that they'll eventually just be swallowed by a sun and everything underground will die too so it isn't an option for them.
Why can no one realistically live on ships? Planets are basically just large rocky ships, with most of the mass being wasted on subsurface rocks. The mass of planets actually works against life since planets attract asteroids and that is probably the most common cause of extinction events across all planets. Cigar tube ships like in Rendevous with Rama would actually be a much more stable way to live long term and the solarians seem more the capable of building those at their tech level.
They explore that in the books. I don't fully buy it but "people" cannot live in space; you turn into space maoists at the drop of a hat! But that's just ships. Space stations around planets, well... Let's just say that has a different, much flatter problem.
Earth is only 4 light years away, the closest system to theirs. Their planet will soon be engulfed by a sun or flung into deep space, living underground will not solve that. Also, in all likelihood, they do live underground as they have a flourishing advanced society at that point but it still won't save them.
As for the ships/stations later in the books, they do when their homeworld gets fricked
Trisolarans are extremely advanced at the start of the series, but they still don't have lightspeed travel and as Trisolaris is the only surviving non-star celestial body in their system so their material resources are limited to what's on their planet and presumably close-range asteroid mining. A massive habitable space station would face the same problems their planet does in the 3-star system.
The way I see it, their options were to either essentially destroy their planet to build one or more ark ships that would house them for tens of thousands of years until they find a stable system, or to do what they did. And what they did was much faster, less resource intensive, and promised an actual planet to live on.
I can't remember if the books even mention how the trisolarans generate power. Sure, they're pretty fricking advanced, being able to build devices made of quarks held together by the strong force, but even if they could build fusion reactors, the dark forest postulates that there's a finite amount of resources in the universe.
Extrapolating a bit, even if they can harvest energy from any form of matter itself remember the whole quark thing, how long can you hope to keep your civilisation thriving inside a giant cigar floating in space? Given the timescale reached by the end of the third book, even a few thousand years seems laughable.
Trisolaris can build magic stuff like sophons and doomdrops but only a limited number of them. They point out just how much of their resources are exhausted by these things
Can I get a QRD of the series? I could never read books due to my incredibely slow reading speed
there's a youtube channel called Quinn's Ideas, he will spoil it all for you
Quinns Ideas does a great job explaining the series in bite size chunks
Aliens find out about Earth because Chinese lady loses faith in humanity. The aliens home system is totally fricked so they need ours. They deploy proton sized computers to frick our scientific progress.
In 400 years, they're supposed to arrive so humanity collectively freaks the frick out.
We manage to build upon our engineering prowess instead of more advanced science but it's not enough and the alien vanguard destroys our fleets with ease. Chinese waifu lover discovers how to send signals through the sun and alert other hostile and more advanced civs to our presence. Since the initial aliens want Earth intact, we hold them off with MAD. It fails because woman and Earth gets enslaved and eventually flattened (literally). The initial aliens frick off because they know we're fricked. Turns out the whole universe is also fricked because of global warming in space. Woman was also right all along.
brah that sounds dumb, what happened to the whole premise of wallfacers and circumventing the ayylien mind control? no way they would just set up this huge arc to throw it away
I thought you wanted a QRD for the book series. I left out a lot of stuff in that paragraph. The whole Wallfacer plot will be in the tv series, only the last episode involves it so far though. The Wallfacer project falls flat on its face through the Wallbreakers. The only one who succeeds is Luo Ji/Saul and he is the Chinese waifu man I spoke of that MAD's the Trisolarans.
Bro he's gonna use the staircase nukes this time! Nobody will see that coming! They changed it so it went off course after only like 2 nukes, so there will ALREADY be 200+ nukes in space he can use for MAD. Bet he'll wait until they reach the astroid belt so instead of blocking light from the sun it will let light out, so just inverse. They'll play it out like he is depressed and going back to look over why the project failed, when he is really just setting then up.
clever anon
I bet one of the other Wallfacers will use the nukes. They've pretty much already set up the Star Plucking of the sun through Ye Wenjie's joke. The sun is Einstein's violin and the other aliens are God.
its bad
I was thinking to myself "she's hot in a boring way" and then the frickers literally said that out loud in the very next episode.
Did they really expect the solar sail passing each nuke through a tiny hole would work more than 2-3 times?
No, Wade thought it was moronic all along. Major spoiler he's gonna fricking shoot Jin because women are too emotional and compassionate and don't have what it takes for MAD, and surely not in the future when every other man is a troony, lol, which literally happens in the book.
Didn't read the spoiler, but if the aliens can mess with our computers, how can we hope that our space missions succeed?
> but if the aliens can mess with our computers
That's the whole bloody point, the Trisolarans can't mess with our computers in the books. They can in the TV show. Just for the sake of the rule of cool, D&D managed to make the plot completely nonsensical.
Oh wow, that seems like a major problem kek
Thanks anon
>trisolarans can’t mess with our computers in the books
Frick are you on about? Sophons sabotage all particle accelerators on earth
They're not sabotaging the actual computers but the experiments themselves. The actual particles in the particle accelerator.
What if they mess with the particles in the rocket exhaust and it explodes? They've clearly shown that they can mess with planes in the air. It almost looked like they letting Wade go this time.
The plane thing is probably my biggest complaint about the sophons. They shouldn't have been able to do so. That being said, protons are really fricking small. There are protons hitting you day in and day out. They probably can't do much damage to rockets without concerted effort. They want to meet Yun Tianming/Will Downing anyway. Also, even at Earth's highest point in tech, it's not enough to matter. They don't need to waste the time killing rockets with sophons when a droplet can do that with ease. They only have a handful of sophons, they need them to stem the accelerators as that's where the real threat is - higher physics.
they're directly fricking with the particles in the accelerators themselves, not the computers. there'd be no point in fricking with the computers.
Well for one we use a space elevator and Wade already said they are building everything on the moon so that will stretch sophons kinda thin and sophons REALLY fear wade so we know they spend a lot of time trying to just stop him, alongside the 24/7 science denial. They have a hard job ahead of themselves.
>wade
I meant Saul but yeah, now that Wade is a major front and center pain in their butts he, too.
that was not the problem. The problem was some bolts coming loose on the spacecraft because it was probably built by boeing
first thing I thought of too when the bolts came off.
Boeing's image is fricked for decades
Even expecting it work for 1 was so stupid it made me stop watching the show that instant.
t. sciencegay
How hard can it be? Just put little RCS thrusters on each nuke so it can fine-tune its trajectory as needed.
Thrusters work by ejecting gasses which has obviously have mass. The whole point about the payload was that it had to be exceptionally light to achieve .01c.
which is why i said put the thrusters on the nukes
Rey Diaz, put the keyboard down
>this woman had THREE men fully in love with her and fighting over her affection
how?
She's rich/going to be rich since she's apparently a genius.
In 2024 does this go both ways?
the pajeet, the lanky lesbian looking white guy, the third ?
(you)
Wade
You know what they say.
You always HURT the ones you love.
Wade can't be bothered with mundane distractions like love or affection, he's the one who keeps moving forward no matter what
I don't understand, does Wade exist in the books as well ? Is he still a white guy or a chinese guy ? does he get together with the asian broad ?
IIRC he is introduced in the third book. He's one of the few white characters. He's not some big commander-in-chief type like in netflix but rather the ambitious leader of some section of some intelligence agency.
Yes, and he's white in the books, too. He shoots her and also gives her the first human FTL spacecraft to escape from the solar system iirc too. They're not really together together.
But is the asian chick from the netflix series the same character from the books ? Because I started watching the chinese series, does she appear in that one ? I'm at ep 15
Jin from the Netflix series is a composite of Wang (from book 1) and Cheng Xin (from book 3). Project Staircase is entirely from book 3 and isn't in the Tencent version yet but it does take place in book 1's era.
Okay you completely lost me, so the netflix adaption not only changes the characters, it also changes the timeline ? Were there moments from sez 1 that were supposed to happen in book 2 or 3 ?
Not really changes to the timeline. Everything in the books is not in chronological order.
So should I continue watching the chinese series ? I heard people here saying it's a 1:1 adaptation of the books
Up to you. I didn't care for it because it dragged on and on. Chinese tv shows are difficult to get into as a westerner. It is closer to the book but that is both a good and bad thing for this series.
Auggie did but nobody gave a shit.
the chinese tv show isn't an adaptation, they used the first book as a literal script. You'll spend less time reading the book than watching the Tencent thing.
Sure, but do you believe that netflix and D&D are gonna bother with that?
>Bother with 4D
The human computer was a leadup to the buiding of the sophon. The slicing on the ship will be referenced in 4D slices. I mean for Cheist's sake look at the scenes with the paper boats; the show is like non-stop foreshadowing. They said they want 4 seasons but can makedo with 3.
>The slicing on the ship will be referenced in 4D slices
?? it makes so little sense, you're not even wrong
You remember the scene where that guy is perving on the girl in her room and sees her cut on half by the 4d pocket, yet she is totally fine? This time you'll see people cut in half while they are perfectly fine. It'll probably even be the botox lips girl seeing it, even, as I just know they'll drag THESE kids all over the galaxy, even though that's not how it should go
china man writer had absolutely no idea what the frickl he was going to write in the third book while he was writing the first one. There's absolutely zero, cross-books, foreshadowing, you overthink it anon.
I am not saying he did, but this show is.
Look at the constant talk about fairy tales, which of course eventually makes sense. Look at how Saul brings up how he knows morse code and "Loads of shit". The paper boats. How are you missing all of this?
>constant talk about fairy tales
Have I missed something, because the only time brain in a jar man indirectly refers to fairy tales is in picrel, and it's not even mentioned or voiced, you just see the book cover for a few seconds, and it's clearly a nod to book readers, it hardly qualifies as foreshadowing, unless a very unlikely season 3 is signed off, with the actual scene from the book where brain main is allowed to communicate with weak china star woman, and from that moment only the most pedantic/moronic redditors will brag about MUH FORESHADOWING, because by then nobody will give a frick, and people who do give a frick will have had the time to read the book trilogy and not give a frick about the netflix dabid adaptation.
There is also Mike Evans reading fairy tales to the Trisolarans.
Why are you acting like foreshadowing only matters if people remember it? Most of the time foreshadowing goes over people's heads until a rewatch. It's still...foreshadowing.
My point is that foreshadowing is a cool trope when used carefully. Fatfrick GrrM relied a lot on foreshadowing when writing ASOIAF, and the common folk mistook foreshadowing for genius. Since D&D are also in charge of the 3BP adaptation, a certain amount of foreshadowing is to be expected, but china man writer actually did not rely on foreshadowing at any point in the trilogy, minus the fall of Constantinople and the 4D shit, which is described as a prologue for book 3, not book 2, not book 1, and the 4D shenanigans only happen in book 3. So again, as I said, you're overthinking it, and you're overestimating D&D's ability to adapt anything in a coherent and enjoyable way.
td;dr: you're autistic
>Paper boats
>Fish
>Fairy tales
>Ocean
It's all massive foreshadowing. IDK what your problem is. Mike reading the fairy tale, and I can't recall off the top of my head but I think other people bring up fairy tales, also. Cancerboy is rarely seen without his book, paper boats, his fish, or near the ocean.
The timeline doesn't change, the books aren't quite in sequential order. Books 2 and 3 have parts that are set in the current day (aka book 1 era) and the Netflix series brings them in roughly where they should be. Most of the "Oxford 5" are either straight taken from those books or are merged. Saul is the main character from book 2, and Jin is basically the main character from book 3. Imo, it was the right move instead of introducing totally new characters for future seasons.
Each chapter in the book has an "era" and a "year" in its name. Books 2 and 3 have different characters doing different things in the same eras and years. Netflix is instead choosing to do its series chronologically, meaning storylines from book 2 and 3 both show up in season 1. Think of how GoT would show Jon and Jaime in the same episode.
Chinese series is a terrible slog. It does carbon copy the characters and apparently ALL the dialogue from the book and it does seem to be taking things in book order. I don't think that makes for compelling TV but if you want to read the books without actually reading the books it's probably your best bet.
Almost no character is taken straigth from the book to the netflix show. Often it's many characters fused into one.
>Almost no character is taken straigth from the book to the netflix show
So we have:
Da Shi as Da Shi
Thomas Wade as Thomas Wade
Cheng Xin as Cheng Xin
Yun Tianming as Will Downing
Luo Ji as Saul Durand
Wang Miao as Auggie Salazar
the fat frick from GoT as no one cares
yeah it really is indistinguishable from the book
oh and I forgot
Zhang Beihai as Pooman
>THREE men
poo
cancer
who?
>"I'm so lonely"
I didn't think much about her at first but by the end of the season I was completetly in love with her. Great energy. You can tell the actress had fun.
well that's quite the achievement, considering she's one of the most hated characters in the entire trilogy, according to the nerds who read the books before netflix announced they were gonna adapt the shit
I'm one of those nerds and I don't hate the character. My interpretation is that she is the divine feminine human spirit and Wade is the masculine spirit. The third book is about how women are always wrong but even when a woman is wrong she is still right. That's the divine quality of womankind and our species cannot be understood without reflecting upon this.
you know that Cheng Xin is a female character because the editor told china man to have a female protagonist for his third book, right?
He's introduced in the third book, just like Luo Ji/Saul Black personman was introduced in the second book. This is one of the few things that D&D got right; instead of adapting the trilogy book by book, they aimed to adapt the whole trilogy, sparing us so many, many back and forth between timelines and other retcons.
Nerds Cinemaphile aren't the general public and the idea that the author/books hate women is just ridiculous. The character they're upset with is not portrayed negatively in the slightest.
He's a major character in the last book and is a white American. As all Americans are in the series, he IS portrayed negatively.
> The character they're upset with is not portrayed negatively in the slightest.
Not in the meta narrative but iirc many of the characters she encounters hate her guts for fricking up as Swordholder. I think that confuses some people.
>nd the idea that the author/books hate women is just ridiculous
No one said the author hated women, the consensus used to be that the author didn't know how to write an appealing female protagonist.
Lol no. He is not portrayed negatively at all. In fact all non-chinese are portrayed positively except maybe for the south american nuclear enthusiast.
> the south american nuclear enthusiast
Who's gonna play him in the inevitable adaptation now?
>sadistic
>violent
>power-hungry
>self-important
He's an antagonist. There is some ambiguity in Cheng's feelings towards him by the end but he's not a good dude.
He's not a "nice guy". He's ruthless but good.
Liam Cunningham is maybe a bit too "friendly-looking" to play the part but he does a good job.
He is 'good' in the same way as all dark forest hunter civilizations are 'good'. Which is to say, the bane of all existence.
Yeah. There is also white wallfacer who has an Asian wife but then, because WMAF trolling has mindbroken every Asian man on the planet, his hot Asian waifu turns out to be his wallbreaker. U NO TAK ASIAN WOMEN DIRTY GAIJIN!!!!
Wasn't that woman a jap? Do chinese feel protective over them?
I said Asian but yeah she was.
IDK. I've only known like 6 Asian men in my life and 3 Asian women. The tall Asian man was chill and dated white women; the short ones were bitter incels. Every Asian woman I've ever known dated/married a white guy
My impression is that "asians" only really exist in America. No one in Asia is "asian".
why do people get so unbelievably mind broken over wmaf
Some men like intelligent, successful woman. Not everyone is a raging incel.
Then why are they always whining about how lonely they are?
Because she so hawny
I am white, I like watching movies/tv series and reading books with white characters, I also am not a big fan of black people. That being said, is it worth it watching this series, or wathing the chinese version, or even reading the books ? I don't really need deep characters, but I want some nice world building.
Im also white, i like hard sci fi stuff and speculating over it, it also shits on the chi coms and the transhumanists get btfo, it feels like a sci fi game of thrones (the ayys being white walkers) but its also netflix and DnD so it may completely shit the bed later on
>we want the hitman audience
I only have three minor complaints.
1. The red guards being shocked and silenced when they realize they killed the guy. They should just have screamed more slogans and brought on the next victim. The show made them appear a little bit more timid than they should but I do understand that the chinese are still butthurt about this scene being included. Most normies in the west will be completely unfamiliar with the cultural revolution before they see this scene.
2. Ye Wenjie. A lot of her story was cut. I didn't like how she appeared to be shocked and regretful once trisolaris "true nature" was revealed or whatever.
3. Wade never dropped the kino line "We'll send only a brain."
TV Ye is a different character from book Ye. She's more of a villain and is down with the ETO until the end. My guess is they cut the rest of the Red Coast stuff because they thought it would confuse the audience that is expecting sci-fi and they probably wanted to minimize the runtime they were using subtitles for.
Supposedly the lack of Chinese is because Netflix only had rights to an English adaption. They were only allowed certain amounts of spoken Chinese.
>they probably wanted to minimize the runtime they were using subtitles for.
so they minimised the screen time of the apex chinese waifu
Holy shit she was fricking cute.
Literally in love
Why are so many Asian women adult e-girls? Diets of rice?
didn't they use an actual child actress for her on this scene?
No idea. I just assumed she was one of those Lala Kudo types, who are adults, but just look very young.
shes cute...
Yep. She's like 21 or something.
what are her best movies?
>I witness the downfall of Western hegemony as I suck on a tiny asian penis that comes in my mouth in 3 seconds.
Not even.
So what's the point of bragging about the downfall of western civilisation if you suck black dicks?
American remake with no subtitles when?
If he had been in that lab it wouldn't have gone down the way it did
more like 3 reddit problem, in that it's a meme show that was taylor-made for reddit
There are WAY more than 3 bodies in that poster. Total ripoff. 0/10; will not see.
why do people in the future only have 3 bodies and why is that a problem?
Ummmmmm it's 2424 chud, all bodies are heckin' valid, live love laugh.
Book 3 isn't canon
You confuse with book 4.
Is book Wade also a gigachad whose only concern is the survival of the species?
yes
Yes. He hates the aliens so much that when a woman moment dooms the human race literally one second after she is given control, the aliens say that they were afraid Wade would be given control instead of her because he would have 100% fricked them in their dry buttholes
utilmately the fact that weak chinese woman didn't triggered the dark forest deterrence allowed BASED Thomas Wade to develop the curvature propulsion ship that ironically saved weak chinese woman from becoming a painting
Even when she fricks up, Wade finds a way. The man was too based to exist.
>The man was too based to exist.
can't argue with that anon
it's so good, it's barely watchable but no so bad it's cringe
I was interested until I saw that it's made by the people who also made GoT
For what it's worth, unlike GoT, they're not going to run out of source material.
Running out of source material wasn't the only problem, with each season GoT was getting worse and worse and worse.
But perhaps 3body is easier to adapt
It's really up to the boys in the CGI department. Doomsday battle, flattening, 4th dimension...
>But perhaps 3body is easier to adapt
Frick no. Read the books. Book 2, if adapted with any degree of fidelity, will be a CGI horror galore, no matter what the budget.
Some scenes in book 3 are completely, utterly unadaptable. You can't represent 4D space in any meaningful way unless you opt for some gay Pink Floyd DMT stoner fractal shit, and for the record I do like Pink Floyd.
You can do 4D you just have a lot of clipping/slicing and shadow projections. You try 4D Toys? It's on Steam. It's a VR tool to interact with 4D objects.
Yes, but got was made 13 years ago, in season 2 and 3 everyone will be black in the netflix show
Probably, and canonically males are feminized in the future too so your /misc/ brain will be happy to see them all destroyed
I was genuinely shocked that noone had problem with killing children on board.
I'm surprised no one suggested saving the children but for nefarious reasons like irl
Yeah the reactions were weird.
>Auggie did but nobody gave a shit.
Did she? Not once we got a
>There were CHILDREN there! Children!
or something from her
Did you miss the close up of the kid's foot and the subsequent binge drinking??? She calls Wade and Raj fascists for their actions. She nearly has a breakdown and flees to some spanish shithole.
>there were children
>it's a shame their parents were traitors to humanity
???
how did you feel about this scene?
Those kids got off easy. The cult was ready to sacrifice them if the aliens asked them. The rest are all traitors and deserved to die.
That was the only moment that had a faithful adaptation. It was more or less how I imagined it when I read the book. I imagined something more like "people stop being alive and then fall into pieces" à la Resident Evil laser scene, rather than being brutally chopped in half with gore and shit. Still a great scene though.
3 Body problem is for STEM audience. Like who else is interested in watching computer plotting single value for 10 minutes ? Of course Netflix made it watchable for people without mental issues.
So will the next season have a timeskip?
Many time skips. A whole shit ton of time skips. Quite literally to the end of the universe if they keep at it.
How will they portray the 4d tombs?
Aliens from across the galaxy screw with particle accelerators to stop human scientific advancement so humanity is easy to defeat in 400 years when they arrive.
Aliens can manipulate events on Earth at the subatomic level and choose to do the above instead of killing every human leaving the planet defenceless.
The premise to this show makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. There are endless plotholes and glossed over critical details. Frick this show and its writers. -100/10 do not recommend.
They don't want to kill humans at first. And maybe not even at all.
They absolutely do. The records from Judgment Day explicitly state they have no intention of co-existing.
They change their minds multiple times throughout the series.
And ETO also has different factions with different ideas what human-trisol relations will be like.
Not by much, and anyway you said "at first". We get to read the records of their leader's first reaction to humanity and it was that we must be destroyed.
The Adventists opinion is the only one that matter. They were the only ones that had real time communication with Trisolaris.
That wasn't me, and besides, "at first" they didn't. Only once they find out about the concept of lies do they decide to exterminate us (and again change their minds a few more times). They'd been talking with us for quite some time before that point.
From the interrogation of the listener of post 1379, just after first contact.
>Princeps, Trisolaran civilization’s desire to possess living space is like the desire of a man who has been starving for a long time for food, and it is similarly boundless. We cannot share the Earth with the people of that world. We could only destroy Earth civilization and completely take over that solar system.… Am I right?
>Yes. But there is another reason for destroying Earth civilization. They’re also a warlike race. Very dangerous. If we try to coexist with them on the same planet, they will shortly learn our technology. Continuing in that state would allow neither civilization to thrive.
Fair enough. I still say there's enough other evidence that they were just plain wishy washy about their intentions to annihilate us.
They wind up loving our culture, and even write movie scripts that surpass our own best. Kind of like how Cinemaphile is now full of non-western thirdies who love western freedom of speech, so they use our website.
I thought that was all a ruse - that the Trisolarians liked Earth culture and were making art for us. Like a way to trick us into lowering our guard ahead of them going ape shit with the Australia plan in Book 3.
Australia was itself a huge risk born of them growing to like us. They also had to deal with their own public opinion, which was becoming more democratic and allowed free speech. You could say that was also a trick, but not killing us WAS
a huge risk!
This all assumes they were telling the truth in their communications with Earth. I felt a big plot point was them developing a sense of deception and the capacity to lie, such as hiding those tear drops in the asteroid belt for the second the Chinese Star Girl became the Swordholder
Hmm.
So you're saying the point was to get us all to Aus so they can exterminate us all at once? It's possible, but there is no real evidence they had that final plan, and the fact they left the solar system without having their droplets destroy earth's core or whatever, is also not in line with them still seeing us as merely bugs.
Yes, I think this is the case. I felt it was an obvious extension of the Dark Forest theory of kill or be killed. As long as any human beings remained, they would be a threat to Trisolarians. This all being said, the Trisolarians didn't retaliate after their system was destroyed by immediately broadcasting Earth's position as I had assumed they would, so you might be right in that regard.
At this point, their cultural prostate is so titillated that they no longer give a frick about the survival of humanity. They sent their droplets to escort a human ship to seek & destroy the last remaining ship with some sort of dark forest deterrent emitter, but they get buttfricked in literal 4D.
Wrong, they do not care about humanity at first. They do develop a kind of curiosity about the concept of 'culture' during the Deterrence Era, but in the end they just wait and deceive humanity until Luo ji gives up the sword position. Then Australia.
>but in the end they just wait and deceive humanity
I thought they couldnt lie
they learned how to
They learn how to lie. They wind up lying more and more as it goes on. I don't actully know if the Trisolars even have the cleansing gene, is that ever confirmed? They just know everyone else has it.
They learned, they're not stupid, just alien.
Realistically, a proton could only do so much damage. You're bombarded by protons on a daily basis and you're still alive. They allude to it in the tv series. They probably could kill a few people (maybe even quite a few) but that would take from their ability to frick up the particle accelerators and potentially give humanity a chance to devise a countermeasure. The netflix series does embellish what they can do a bit. It's unlikely they'd be able to frick around with Wade's plane all that much.
>woke diversity MUH REPRESENTATION types
>erase all asian men from the cast except a fat diabetic boomer with a homosexual son
>give all the boomer's screen time to other characters anyway
I hate you fricking woke hypocrites
I hate they de-Chineseified it so much, and I say that as someone who despises China in general. But the book is fundamentally Chinese and the show should be too.
>woke diversity MUH REPRESENTATION types
>erase all asian men
Checks out, they all come from the progressive strain of Puritanism. Some of the most racist shit I have ever heard against Asians comes from these sorts of people
You asian?
Is it true you have tiny dicks?
>Is it true you have tiny dicks?
yes
>woke morons worshipping black wiener
Bet you're making that numale face over a black man being added to the cast, huh?
I hope you live to see the second season of the TV show, if it's ever produced, so you can witness a future where flying cars and tesla shit power everything, but every male minus the few who have gone through the hibernation process is a weak, tiny wiener, submissive femboy.
I'm not surprised that's the interpretation you get from the books, you mentally ill homosexual.
But that's what happens and is ultimately shunned? Or even played for comedic effect,I can't tell with the chink whether some stuff was supposed to be a critique or a joke.
If you've somehow misinterpreted the dialogue between Da Shi & Luo Ji (assuming you've read the books) about the current state of the world at the end of the crisis era, and completely missed the point that since humanity has gained so much self-confidence with its somewhat technological progress and fleet of spaceships, and everyone living in these underground tree cities is some sort of gender-fluid homosexual, I can only assume that you're a severely closeted homosexual who can't accept any hint of sissy homosexualy because you're afraid of what you are.
You're a fricking homosexual, got get fricked in the ass somewhere else.
>"If you don't fantasize about a future sissy homosexual society you're the homosexual!"
LOL
If you can't tell the difference between a readable description of a hypothetical future where everyone is a sissy homosexual and your own fantasies, I've got bad news for you anon.
Do some more sissy hypnosis and leave us alone.
>"No you don't get it the future is supposed to be full of sissy homosexuals! That's the future I see in my fantasies!"
Okay. So?
You're a despicable homosexual who projects your own illness onto everyone else.
Get lost, I fricking despise your kind, I'd rather eat bugs than suffer another second of your disgusting homosexualry.
>You're a despicable homosexual who projects your own illness onto everyone else.
This is your post homosexual
You HOPE to see sissy homosexual shit in the 2nd season. moron.
Jesus fricking christ
This is the literal description of humanity straight from the book. If you want to blame someone, blame the chinese author, or keep projecting your illness.
>projecting
You keep using that word while admitting YOU'RE THE ONE who HOPES to see sissy homosexual shit. That's what YOU want and you keep talking about wanting it. Fricking gay wienersucking idiot. homosexual homosexual.
Right, now tell me about your relationship with your father. Or with one of your uncles.
No gay shit in any of those to fuel your fantasies bruh. Try asking one of your buttbuddies, homosexual.
Anon, if you want to get fricked, you can do it completely anonymously by installing a homosexual dating app, you will meet another sick man near where you live who will give you AIDS, and you will stop bothering us with boards and threads that have absolutely nothing to do with the disease you're suffering from.
Maybe then you'll find some sort of meaning in your life by being a victim of gay cancer and that's it, that's the end game, you're a victim and you should be celebrated for letting your inane tendencies override what might have been some sort of will.
Go to your nearest church and, if you're so inclined, you might just be saved from the filthy, disgusting disease that's eating away at your soul and your arse.
You seem to know a lot about getting fricked in the ass anonymously. Just saying.
He thinks about it a lot. Some gays get off on the taboo aspect of it all; they WANT it to be taboo, it's their kink.
I have a social life and I've been through many companies and circles of friends and most of the time you'll stumble upon "that flamboyant gay" and if you show any sign of sympathy, even a faint smile, they'll tell you their stories of homosexualry. Believe it or not, I even know a guy, a close friend of my younger sister, the guy was a teacher and at one point he felt confident enough to tell me that he had fricked one of his students. He was a teacher in some sort of community college equivalent in the country where I live, but still, the boy was barely legal. Later that night he told me all about gay apps. Apparently even grindr is too prudish for rough bareback, but they always find a way to get fricked, it's like a giant anal masonry without the occult shit.
>absolutely nobody talking about dicks
>woke shills start talking about tiny asian dicks versus big black wiener
Quintessentially leftist
I was just referring to the chinese POV, and yet somehow you're the one who brought black dicks into the discussion.
Projecting much? Let me guess, you're a US citizen?
>I was just referring to the chinese POV
UHHH YOU CHINESE YOU DICK SMALL?!
In the context of woke changes to the cast. You're such a disingenuous little homosexual.
>and yet somehow you're the one who brought black dicks into the discussion.
I'm not the one that's posting BBC memes or worshipping the decision to replace Luo Ji with a black male you disingenuous c**t.
>Projecting much
Look at what you posted you dumb frick.
This complaint is really weird when the book and a chinese version of the show exist. This show is for an English-speaking, mostly American audience..
Cinemaphile is overrun with paid foreign agents who are instructed to turn every discussion you can think of into a political culture war thing, so we have no escape from it. They think that'll bring about a racewar or some shit. And also some of our own useful idiots do it for free, for them. Just ignore 'em.
>This show is for an English-speaking, mostly American audience..
Explains why the main character's black. American culture revolves around worshipping blacks. See
You homosexuals are fricking pathetic.
I NEED NEED NEED NEED NEED TATIANA GF
anon she is evil and dedicated to destroying the world
if sophon told her to love anon till the end of time, she will
and she's MY evil humanity-betraying weirdly cute gf!!!!
are planets that orbit 3 stars even real?
Alpha Centauri is the closest solar system to us and has 3 stars (binary stars and a third wheel). It's also believed to have planets.
They're flying around inside their eyes. You can kind of see the squiggly lines (which are the sophon's trails) in the countdown.
Literally nothing, it's a scare tactic.
how do the sophons create those countdowns inside people's brains?
I'm more interested in knowing what happens at zero
"Bad things happen when countdown reaches 0"
>show don't tell
Fricking shit tier zoomer writers
They just frick with the light, like those laser shows. They can't mess with/fully read the human mind because the lore says the mind, deep down, relies upon quantum physics. Except for the mental seal, I guess.
>books
very rapidly pass back and forth in their retinas
>show
unexplained
nothing, it's just a scare tactic
Not in the brain, just in the retina.
It's even emphasised in the first book, as sophons can also alter the light that reaches the film, so book Wang Miao (TV Auggie) also sees the countdown when he takes pictures with his film camera.
Why the FRICK did they kill Jack?
Holy SHIT the dude was the most realistic character and a good way to balance all the depressive shit from the main cast.
Overrated chink slop with game of thrones cast
Chinks killing their scientists was a thing that actually happened in real life?
What?
You obviously don't understand how absurd the communists were
scientists
schoolteachers
political dissidents
regular ass people via starvation
Maoist China was a shithole
> Nation's inteligence murdered by revolutionaries
fricking Chink barbarians
find out more about the Khmer Rouge. It's an even more hardcore version than Maoist China. The simple fact of wearing glasses condemned you to the torture camp, because obviously wearing glasses makes you an intellectual, and therefore a danger to communism.
I asked and yes it was entirely true, however physicists were actually spared since they were trying to make their own bomb, also the daughter hae to also denounce her father if she wanted to live and not her head bashed in too.
D&D did some good changes tbqh, because the book characters were paper thin
i read the books years ago, and i did watch the tencent series recently, but i was still taken by surprise (in a good way) as they revealed that the characters were ones i knew from book2+3. initially i thought they just split up the nanofibre guy into a team.
the problem is, they cast this b***h with lip fillers so big she cant even close her mouth....
so i read spoilers and the show doesnt end up with wade exterminating the alien race? and instead they kill everyone
the frick? dropped
Huh?
No, Singer kills us, and he is some beyond-our-comprehension species. Trisolars, at least as far as our solar system goes and just their fleet, leaves us alone.
>Follower was the only one that didn't come out of the water naked
bros...
I wonder how many players had to be kicked from the game because they immediately tried to do...bad things to her...
too much shit thrown at the wall.
that plan to destroy the boat had to be an all-time dumb idea.
This show has more threads than views on Netflix lol
ITT:
>Not enough Asian males I AM BEING GENOCIDED!
>Nobody mention my tiny dick!!!
>nobody talking about dicks
>MUH BBC black male worshipping homosexual starts talking about dick size
Woke shills are fricking disgusting
I wasn't talking about dicks until
brought it up and ANOTHER crybaby Asian came in to complain about "Asian male genocide".
The books had WMAF, the show has WMAF; reality is just WMAF and they should grow used to it.
didnt know where to watch the tencent version so i went to nyaa and i saw there was a three body anime???
why does no one ever talk about it?
>woman invites aliens to earth
>Later, woman convinces aliens to destroy earth
Frick women
Nobody cares about your culture war bullshit. I say this as a /misc/gay myself. It's obnoxious. Here's some classic droplet art
I mostly enjoyed Ser Davos being a c**t to everyone
They'll make him a villain next season. Auggie will kill him in a righteous girlboss way.
Lol, no. I highly doubt they'll alter the story THAT much.
He'll shoot Jin, spend a bunch of time in jail, then come back way later to save the day.
>I watched the Tencent version
I don't believe anyone who posts this
These threads are absolute chink magnets; a lot of them are telling the truth. Just say "Tiny asian penises" and check how many (You)s you get.
>Just say "Tiny asian penises" and check how many (You)s you get.
American culture revolves around black wiener.
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Except Samwell Tarly turning it into a fricking expositional nightmare right up there with Harry Potter.
You should have listened to me in the last thread. No one is falling for your shilling here because what you're pushing is ridiculous to us. Now you're flailing about in desperation. Something is wrong with you, clearly. You've spent hours defending this slop like your paycheck depends on it and to no avail. Go ahead and throw me a cope reply if you want. I won't be reading it.
now can we go back to sci-fi shit please