>back in 2021
At least he has an excuse. Stable Diffusion AI wasn't around there in any capacity... and we can still pretend he spent the other 40k on an unreleased 30min porn of him and Charlie. >Hydro
Is that a closed eyes Fluttershy avatar?
It's true, he said he spent 47k on it back in 2021
Said where
On discord, an anon posted this in another thread
I'm not a cartoon expert but it's 3 minutes of handdrawn animation, so I doubt it'd come cheap. It was during around his peak popularity and it's gone down somewhat since then, but he's definitely not hurting financially
50K is entirely reasonable for 3 mins worth of animation made by I assume an actual team. Actual numbers almost never get thrown around for stuff like this, but Planet Panic's pilot short(also 3 mins) notably cost around 200k.
Nobody seems to know how much animation actually costs, it seems. At the very least Cinemaphile seems flabbergasted than an entire music video could be fairly expensive.
>t. said the McDonalds wagecuck >boy howdy Hollywood(who gets free printed bucks) is moronic enough to throw 100k per 1 minute around, jeez that definitely is how much animation costs yep yep yep. Bread definitely costs 35$ and 100$ for wonder bread!!! mmmm wonder bread.
America is a israelite ethnostate with fake dollars being thrown around, yes we know. WE KNOW. Otherwise art wouldn't be tax free. Art isn't tax free outside of America.
That's very interesting. Seems like normies just don't know how much animation actually costs if it's not cheap dogshit.
You still could've gotten a reasonably animated pilot running at 22 minutes for that much. After Zeruel's workload, that's also the budget for a new episode of Monkey Wrench.
I... I just gave you an example anon. Your reading comprehension is complete dogshit.
4 months ago
Anonymous
I wasn't aware how long an episode of Monkey Wrench was. The words "new episode" and "pilot" didn't corroborate with each other.
4 months ago
Anonymous
That took 8 months to create and we don't really know how long this project took. Also seems like a ton of the project was done by the creator without factoring that into the budget.
Monkey Wrench's actually longer than 22 minutes. It's 29 minutes and 20 seconds. If you factor 22 minutes being 75% of that, then that would make a 22 minute Monkey Wrench $40,650 / $75,000. Going even further, something with that quality a 11 minutes would be $20,325 / $32,500 or 7 minutes at $12,934 / $23,863. As many pointed out, Monkey Wrench was was more animated that it really needed to be, so cutting the animation budget in half to still look pretty good is: >22 minutes: $20,325 / $32,500 >11 minutes: $101,62 / $17,500 >7 minutes: $6,467 / $11,931
Let's assume additional smart cost-cutting measure and round off 7 minutes with $10,000.
What's my point with all of this math? The money spent on this fetish material could've been used to fund FIVE 7-minute pilots, which would be a dream come true to so many people with ideas of their own they want to see realized. If we go 11 minutes, that's about three pilots, or funded a 22 minute show with money left over for another 11 one.
He could've even funded these people who had ideas he liked and receive an executive producer credit, making him a notable name in the indie animation scene.
If you want to blow $50k on animation do it, but be smart about it. Instead he's probably going to regret it and this will be his identity from now on, as the guy who spent $50k on a 3 minute fetish animation with traced symbols where Charlie doesn't even get naked.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>He could've even funded these people who had ideas he liked and receive an executive producer credit, making him a notable name in the indie animation scene.
I've got money to burn, where do I find these pilots in need of funding
4 months ago
Anonymous
Now how does Verbalase’s payment compare to Helluva Boss!
That took 8 months to create and we don't really know how long this project took. Also seems like a ton of the project was done by the creator without factoring that into the budget.
>Also seems like a ton of the project was done by the creator without factoring that into the budget.
but he straight up tells you he paid $2500 for 60 seconds of animation
the episode is 30 minutes long. $2500/min * 30 minutes = $75,000
hes not hiding his own cost from the rate, he's hiding it from the total episode cost by 'working for free'
the rate is inline with what viv got caught paying animators working on the hazbin finale. there was a big thread about it earlier this week
4 months ago
Anonymous
But at the same time the debate was brought up if Monkey Wrench needed to have as fluid animation as it did? A lot of it felt unnecessary and Zeurel being a perfectionist and if he was smarter, could've drastically cut the animation budget and still have things look decent enough.
4 months ago
Anonymous
So what you're saying is this 50k animation should've cost around 10-12k, maybe 15k if you are being generous.
50K is entirely reasonable for 3 mins worth of animation made by I assume an actual team. Actual numbers almost never get thrown around for stuff like this, but Planet Panic's pilot short(also 3 mins) notably cost around 200k.
The animation was made by one person and said personal (allegedly) was a minor at the time.
Portions of it looked traced from the Hazbin Hotel pilot as well. There is tons of animation errors too.
It's not tho
The actual Hazbin animators were getting paid a rate of $35 for a second of anination
This short would've cost less than $6000 from the people who actually worked on the show. We can even be nice and assume this amateur team charged a bit for boarding and backgrounds, and MAAAYBE you could bring the total up to $12k
An actual pilot/short/whatever will also have to pay writers, musicians, voice actors, legal consulting, union fees, etc etc but none of that applies here
as someone who is hoping to make an online pilot in the future, what's that part about legal consulting? if all i'm doing is paying for VAs and someone to do the BGM, what is the legal consulting part? anything that explains this more in depth?
That's more for if you're trying to go big-time and do things like merch and licensing. You'll probably want a consultant to check over contracts before you sign to make sure you aren't getting fleeced
Or if you do any work with a union, make sure all your bases are covered. Don't be like Maxwell Atoms
It's true, he said he spent 47k on it back in 2021
Said where
On discord, an anon posted this in another thread
I now understand why people find waifugays cringe, and I say that as a diehard waifugay of many years.
50k on a Hazbin/Helluva girl and it's not Millie, Loona or Katie Killjoy is just sad. honestly thought we'd see Angel Dust break these numbers before Charlie did but here I am being proven wrong
I say, the peasants are getting uppity with jealousy again. $50k? I could spend that every day and it wouldn't put a dent in my finances. By jove, I spent TEN times that on my last trip to Epstein island.
>Which is still running by the way.
I actually believe this because it makes too much sense
They replaced Epstein as ringleader the minute they sent people to murder him. Someones BEEN the new leader for a while.
Nobody is saying he broke a law. Everyone is calling him a clown for commissioning low quality animation for 50k that didn't even have any nudity or sex.
look like the animator was 15 years old, this guy's cooked he was already facing the fact that he was dying channel. But the way he worked was he put so much money in one project and then took the money that was made from the next project for the next project very simple. The dummy took the money that was needed to keep his finances flowed and put it into a project of self satisfaction, in this created about a 6 month Gap so he killed his entire channel and if he had released this cartoon in that window it would have been better cuz he could have recoup some of the loss . But instead he buried it. And now he's broke, no way to get back, no one's going to support him he's not going to get advertisers, and effect he's done the hood. He came from the ghetto and is going back
>a 15 year old can animate better than most studios >Black YTer e-celeb in his late 30s commissioned him to make softcore AMV
This is a way to start 2024
He paid for the Disney animators credentials basically. They were taking him for a ride, same shit for his other animations. Saw they were charging him 30~40k for his other vids
I might not be a youtube expert but I see his channel has literally 100s of millions of video views
Even by lower estimates from other tubers I've seen he should be earning like 6 figures a year
how the frick did 50k bankrupt him?
50k on a Hazbin/Helluva girl and it's not Millie, Loona or Katie Killjoy is just sad. honestly thought we'd see Angel Dust break these numbers before Charlie did but here I am being proven wrong
I hate to be that guy, but...
I could easily get porn of my self insert fricking Charlie that's not the price of a small house, he fricked up by asking for the most high quality studio animation.
This is funny and all but did verbalase ever showed signs that he loved Charlie? You don't make shit like this unless you really really like your waifu
No but I want to see him tweeting or thirsting for her in his youtube channel or tiktok or whatever. A person like this DOESN'T shut up about their waifu chrus.
Friendly reminder the only source on "Verbalase went bankrupt" is a twitter user who hates Verbalase for making wrongthink statements on discord, also because they have a personal grudge with a person close to Verbalase.
Let's think about this logically. Ignoring the "Why didn't he spend money on x or y instead?"
That 47k could have been spent on. >Several high quality commissions of him fricking Charlie >A full comic of him fricking Charlie >A cheaper video of him him fricking Charlie, in-betweens be damned >An indie video game of him fricking Charlie >A hooker and Charlie cosplay to frick
If he wanted to get his nut off to Charlie porn and his self insert, he could have done it for a fraction of the price.
It feels like an autist got their first taste of rich and thought they already had frick you money
Who cares? One of the worst kept secrets in internet fandom is that 90% of NSFW content creators are underaged. Hell, pre 2017 it was even considerd totally acceptable and Tumblr had no problem with people under 18 publically making NSFW stuff.
Its only after the social radicalization of the internet starting in 2018 that it became a problem.
Is it really AI? Pretty well done. The low res youtube version is almost unwatchable, so...
I kept it though, and I just uploaded it just for (You): https://litter.catbox.moe/v356b3.webm
baka dummies here's the high res original vid
I need to see some good reaction images from the high res version
I haven't been following the story. Why is there an AI version? Where does the original HD version comes from? AFAIK there was only a low res version on youtube
4 months ago
Anonymous
>Why is there an AI version?
some anon in one of the first threads made it
4 months ago
Anonymous
an anon made it and posted it because he loves his wife charlie
Is it really AI? Pretty well done. The low res youtube version is almost unwatchable, so...
I kept it though, and I just uploaded it just for (You): https://litter.catbox.moe/v356b3.webm
all prostitutes are ugly because they are 3D, dumb normgroid thats the fn point
4 months ago
Anonymous
holy autism
touch grass
4 months ago
Anonymous
What no pussy does to a mf
prostitutes detected lmao
4 months ago
Anonymous
What no pussy does to a mf
4 months ago
Anonymous
>normgroid
Fricking kek. Is this the socially acceptable way to say normalgay without saying normie like a fricking loser?
I can be so much more expressive in public now
4 months ago
Anonymous
Why would you care about social acceptance by normgroids
>ugly prostitute
He could have a high-end escort give him this experience for a week at $50K.
He could probably convince his IRL oneitis to give him this for at least a month with $50K.
A regular hooker could probably give him this for 2 or 3 months.
An ugly hooker could probably do it for 6 months.
A third worlder would probably do it for a year at half price and then unironically embrace the persona for life in pursuit of the remaining $25K.
4 months ago
Anonymous
moron still doesnt get it.
Its not always about the money, Spiderman.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>moron still doesnt get it. >Its not always about the money, Spiderman.
He could have paid college kids to build him a fricking AI Charlie waifubot as a capstone project.
No one's saying it's about the money. It's about how he just fumbled so fricking hard that he failed even as a coomer cartoon lover. He could live a life with a custom AI playing out this fantasy every day for him, remixed ever so slightly every time so as to never make the experience boring. It's quite frankly insane.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>No one's saying it's about the money.
You LITERALLY are you dumbfrick.
We keep telling you Verbalase didn't want some ugly escort/hooker, its nowhere on the same level but being the normie frickwit you are its like were typing in mandarin and you refuse to just take the L and accept you don't understand the power of waifuism.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Generative AI, videogames, comic books, other animation studios, etc. are "hookers" now?
Can you even read?
So the Gaystapo is here too? Ironic that one of most oppressed groups became oppressive and will cancel you for being straight. Just like you did to Jocat.
>Jocat
Man, watching people pretend that the majority of people giving him shit were 'right wingers who think him liking women is gay' rather than seethoids claiming it's misogyny to like women or LGBT mafia types was some crazy shit.
Yeah this was some psyop bullshit. This is what happens when you base your career off of pandering to lefty morons and trannies and then step "out of line" for even half a second. They will throw you over the railing for whatever miniscule infraction they can think of.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes, maybe he learned a lesson in not pandering to those morons.
>>His latest videos are being disliked bombed
homie for fricking what? This is cringe and a gross mismanagement of money but far from worthy of being dislike bombed compared to exponentially worse people, artist, and commissions
It's a testament to Viv's talent in character design that a guy would willingly bankrupt himself just to get a 3-minute mediocre music video of his self-insert getting raped by Charlie.
I used to think that the Cartoon Beatbox Battle was the most autistic shit, then I saw the guy commissioned a 47k animation of Charlie seducing him.
He was a hero, I didn't know it yet.
>I used to think that the Cartoon Beatbox Battle was the most autistic shit >then I saw the guy commissioned a 47k animation of Charlie seducing him
Well clearly you weren't wrong
People are just telling you it's cheaper.
I mean frick, know what 50k could get you?
200 $250 high quality still images of the nastiest shit you can imagine.
There are better ways to spend money, that's all people are saying.
>Nooo, I don't want a literal archive of images of the most degenerate, Astrid+Pigs tier shit humanly possible >I just want 3 minutes of softcore
Your loss I suppose
Let's think about this logically. Ignoring the "Why didn't he spend money on x or y instead?"
That 47k could have been spent on. >Several high quality commissions of him fricking Charlie >A full comic of him fricking Charlie >A cheaper video of him him fricking Charlie, in-betweens be damned >An indie video game of him fricking Charlie >A hooker and Charlie cosplay to frick
If he wanted to get his nut off to Charlie porn and his self insert, he could have done it for a fraction of the price.
Exactly. This man got scammed on the same level as the Fyre Festival and didn't bother to just find different artists that work for way less and specialize in coom art. This is some amateur tier gooning.
>got introduced to Hazbin because someone recommended him Helluva Boss >didn't commission animated rape porn of Verosika instead
he might as well have just burned that 50k
A full episode of anime cousts about 100k, and that includes low animation scenes where it's just dialogue.
For 50 grand he probably could have gotten 2 or 3 minutes of high quality animation for his music video.
I am like this but this doesn't give me second hand embarrassment. I like the song, have no interest is vizvietrash and think the dude is a basedmoron.
Second hand embarrassment is meant for other more important things, like characters saying mean things when they don't know the person they are talking about is listening.
>paid 50K for self insert when Generative AI is sitting right there
Honestly, the art community should be uplifting this man. He's single-handedly pumping lifeblood into their industry.
Show me the champion of second hand embarrassment and I'll show you the herald of sensible chuckling
The only cringe part of the vid was the "you are a part of me" break down. The rest of the cringe is meta shit. If you had no context you wouldn't care.
I felt so much second hand embarrassment after going through like 10 seconds of the video. If I was him I would kill myself.
Like, to follow this up, it's actually LESS cringe than anything from Mystery Skulls which apes anime on top of being overly serious self-inserting. And it's kind of as horny as Lone Digger? Hard to say. Digger is more explicit but less indulgent.
Point being for animated vids it's pretty par. Watching her shimmy in the moon while he runs through the cityscape has 0 coom levels and very much feels like a cringe indi animated music video, honestly.
Smart move if so. I had entirely avoided the show until now. I knew almost literally nothing about it. Now the AI cover has me thinking I like her voice.
I just don’t see her being yandere. She’s supposed to be disney princess levels of sweet and innocent, with maybe very slightly hinted at anger issues. Also she may canonically be lesbian. And everything about her romantic relationship with Vaggie is supposed to look sweet and tender. I don’t think she’s even into bdsm.
BUT, if for some reason somebody would choose to portray her as super horny and yandere, then they should at the very least be having her hulk out into her scary demon mode with the horns. The amv only occasionally has her flashing her pointy teeth a little. She should either not be hunting down and raping a boy at all, or she should be doing so while transforming into a terrifying monster. No pussy ass in between.
it's totally in character that she craves wiener more than anything after having to settle with lesbian sex with her Hispanic girlfriend, she's starving man
Do people actually like the video?
Look i like popular toon girls in underwear and trying to seduce a guy/being sexy.
But i'm not sure how anyone see's the video as anything other then sad and pathetic.
I don't really see the difference between it/this and soni-chu.
What's the difference?
>What's the difference
Fortyseven grand give or take. But you are moronic if you think this is anything like Sonichu. I DOES remind me of Daryl's Amphibia opening take over though.
I just don’t see her being yandere. She’s supposed to be disney princess levels of sweet and innocent, with maybe very slightly hinted at anger issues. Also she may canonically be lesbian. And everything about her romantic relationship with Vaggie is supposed to look sweet and tender. I don’t think she’s even into bdsm.
BUT, if for some reason somebody would choose to portray her as super horny and yandere, then they should at the very least be having her hulk out into her scary demon mode with the horns. The amv only occasionally has her flashing her pointy teeth a little. She should either not be hunting down and raping a boy at all, or she should be doing so while transforming into a terrifying monster. No pussy ass in between.
Yandere is not being sexually aggressive. Yandere is being controlling as a woman, that is passive control. Removing things they want until they have nothing else but you. She just perused him with seemingly no self-awareness or malice here.
Don't know the character. Frick Vivzie but that's not yandere.
A yandere kill your family and moves into your house because they are your real family now. She doesn't force you to move in with her so that your family stop getting in the way of her seduction.
>literal child
It's a fricking mutant and a cartoon character, there are no children involved and you should get your outraged ass back to xitter
4 months ago
Anonymous
>Um ACKSHYUALLY its okay that she looks 7 because shes a 5000 year old dragon and UHHHH ITS A CARTOON????
Disgusting weak-wristed response I would expect from a disgusting troon pedophile.
Go groom children homosexual
4 months ago
Anonymous
have a nice day and go back to twitter outrage gay
4 months ago
Anonymous
>buzzwords, buzzwords, buzzwords
We all know people who pretend to be outraged over cartoon porn are the real groomers, so you might want to stop posting
4 months ago
Anonymous
>don't you get it? By getting upset about this child porn you're the real monster
I... You're right. I never considered it that way
4 months ago
Anonymous
Anon it's more about how it draws attention away from real life child molestation and pornography
I remember reading once that child protection groups literally tell people not to report that because it wastes their time and money going after it
I politely disagree with your perception of the term yandere, but if you want to swap out the word “yandere” with just simple “rapist” to make it easier on you, then I believe my point still stands. If you watch the actual Hazbin Hotel (and you shouldn’t, it’s not that good), then you’ll see this character isn’t like that.
Thing is, getting a comm of your OC banging some IP character is kinda whatever. Hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people have done it over the past two decades.
Reason people are clowning on Verb is because the price tag is absolutely ludicrous and usually most people keep shit like that to themselves or very very small trustworthy circles.
You dont post that shit on Youtube and have it be your literal self insert that looks exactly like you.
where do you think most of the money went to anon
50k for 3mins? are you kidding me?
there's an at minimum 30min sex animation of charlie out there and someone's gonna leak it
I don't see co pay to get artists to make short videos.
Let's do a challenge, a challenge no one will take, cause everyone here is a hypocrite/idiot and is wrong.
Ok so take co board-tan character, and find some artist online, and pay them to make a video of co board character doing shit.
It doesn't matter what he does, maybe he becomes a super hero.
The video has to be 3 mins long, and hd.
And let's see how much it costs, and if it's half as good as the shit verbalace made.
Let's be honest, co could not do this.
But i'd like to see someone try, prove me wrong b***hes.
I will never be proven wrong, and this post is my bet.
Frick it, do you have more SU vocaroos? I doubt archive anon lists them. Do you have a collection of favourites? I'm in the mood for another round of laughter.
I can't believe there are people in this thread getting mad instead.
It's only been a day, and the "controversy" is already losing steam. It's not nearly as embarrassing and hilarious as what happened to animatedjames. This dude just fricked himself and his projects financially and that's about it.
>what happened to animatedjames
I don't recall who's this, qrd?
This is like some Helen of Troy stuff man wants a woman so badly he destroys his kingdom. A man wants a cartoon character so badly he destroys his life. And to add insult to injury the character is a lesbian, the person he paid was under age. And now at the age of 40 on his birthday he is being called a pedophile, transphobic and a stupid man child.
It isn't that deep, but requesting a minor to do animated risque videos could be easily misunderstood as grooming, even if there was no intention of it.
>I don't recall who's this, qrd?
black dude who was semi-famous online during the early-mid 10s due to making pony and sonic animations. people eventually found out he had alt accounts where he uploaded fart porn to. he was teased about it, had a mental breakdown, and is now laying low
It's funny when a 40 year old man, lusts so hard after a cartoon character destroys himself both financially and reputation. He's going to end up living off welfare in some crappy apartment in the middle of New York. The irony is that he was destroyed by the daughter of the devil. On top of that the whole creation of this video is controversial to say the least the animators have worked on it appear to be his fans that were underage. I don't see any way of him coming back from this . From what I've read one of the people that released this content on his birthday along with all the other leaks had a personal grudge against him and his supporters on the discord and called him a groomer.
This is like some Helen of Troy stuff man wants a woman so badly he destroys his kingdom. A man wants a cartoon character so badly he destroys his life. And to add insult to injury the character is a lesbian, the person he paid was under age. And now at the age of 40 on his birthday he is being called a pedophile, transphobic and a stupid man child.
>the person he paid was under age
I heard this rumor but where is the proof? I seen someone say the animator was 15 or 17, some saying it was a studio, and other people saying we have no idea who it was
Honestly it's such a nothingburger that if someone went to the kid's high school and got him on video shaking hands with Verbalase and exchanging a big monopoly bag of money I still would not actually care.
I don't get why people say "he could have gotten porn or a hooker for the same price!" I mean, no shit, he could get something else for the money, but that's just as true at 50 dollars as it is at 50k. The nature of the content is kind of irrelevant because 50k for porn is equally absurd and if he actually wanted that, he could get it. He got exactly what he wanted though, he just paid an asinine amount for it. Not in comparison to anything else, just period.
>commission custom made cosplay >find the closest prostitute >drive her to the nearest clinic have her tested >find a hotel
He could have paid for all of this shit and still had 40k left. It's the just how hilariously skewed the input vs output was here
Like I said, if he wanted that he could have gotten that. I don't think if you caught him before he spent the money and told him he could get a prostitute instead, he would have done anything differently. It's not that he didn't know prostitutes or porn are available. That's just not what he wanted. He wanted something with a higher price tag, but I think specifically for what he wanted and nothing else, he still paid too much.
>I think specifically for what he wanted and nothing else, he still paid too much.
thats what i meant by the output not matching the input. unless youre some kinda angel investor looking for returns, 50k on an animation you could have gotten done for exponentially cheaper and similar (if not better) quality by the average rule34 animator is beyond overpayment.
Anon, you don't get it. It isn't even about the porn, this is the kind of thing you do when you're rich, think you're richer than you actually and wanna do something crazy/eccentric with your money.
People with that kinda money do crazy things like buying big armored military vehicles, and having exotic animals. It's a flex based around not realizing your 15 minutes of fame and fortune will come to an end.
He could have gotten a hooker, and dressed her in a fancy show accurate Charlie cosplay for less than this. Hell, he could have probably gotten a sugar baby or a trophy gf and considering the BDSM set up in the video and depending on how many times they did it, it'd still be like 25k
How does one even reach that levels of horny where your brain is so fogged that you think spending 50k on a AMV of yourself getting sexual assaulted is a great investment?
He took the money he needed to invest in other projects and put it into a fan fiction. He's stupid he was just some guy who could make funny sounds with his mouth now he's going to make funny sounds when he's sucking penis in the hood. You can take the monkey out of the jungle but you can't take the jungle out of the monkey
>He took the money he needed to invest in other projects and put it into a fan fiction.
Wasn't it intended to go on his channel? He probably thought he would recoup the cost, realized it was a bit too spicy for his brand, and ate the loss. You could say he should have realized this earlier, but honestly if this wasn't intended for the public I really do think it would be spicier. And I think the guy will be fine. Not drop-50k-on-an-AMV fine, but fine.
That's not the way YouTube works, babe don't just throw money and everything like they used to, his channel was already suffering and he was already not getting very much from it. Now that advertisers are going to pull, plus if he gets any money from patreon or other sources those are going to disappear as well. He's dead in the water holding on to his penis crying over the fact that a cartoon devil screwed him over
>Now that advertisers are going to pull
They are? >plus if he gets any money from patreon or other sources those are going to disappear as well
They are?
Why? I mean, this all could have been happening anyway, but why over this? That's kind of a rhetorical question but if you have something to factually back it up I'd be interested.
Money well spent.
Cinemaphile seetheing
Viv foreverially Blown the frick out.
Hazbin gays anally devastated
The guy is now more famous than ever.
And he even got a fap out of it.
Couldn't have gone any better, really.
It's the perfect wienertail of letting e-fame get to your head, being beyond down bad for a fictional character, and not knowing how to properly finance after coming into a lot of money.
>white trash
i can fix her >STD
wouldn't everyone in hell have an STD >dog
this is not an issue
vs. >the whitest woman in hell
clearly the only way to resolve this fight would be to pay $50k to a person above the age of 18 to animate an oiled up wrestling match between these two characters. then we would know who is superior
>true, but if we're talking characters from these shit show(s), loona is the better of them
Eh. The biggest part of her appeal I can see is being a goth furry. I'm not as into goths anymore and furries are nothing especially good or bad. She's also a b***h, and not just in the literal sense. I don't really like her and prefer Charlie.
>clearly the only way to resolve this fight would be to pay $50k to a person above the age of 18 to animate an oiled up wrestling match between these two characters. then we would know who is superior
I like your way of thinking
The only skill in life he had was making funny sounds with his mouth the computer can do that better. Get views with his reputation , basically he was a brand, now that brand is dead. It's the problem with celebrities . Fundamentally their brand so if they're brand tanks that's the end of them. Doesn't really have any other skills, he's going to either end up wearing a paper hat or jail or digging out of the trash can. He also is renting doesn't own and is a very expensive part. He needs the money that's why he was so desperate
Everything that happened was through his discord. The guy lived on it it was about as in touch with reality as you can be in one of those places. At the end of the day he was a dummy who had a skill of making noises from his mouth. He created a fan base and got animators on board and a lot of them were on his discord. And then he pissed off some transgender people and basically screwed himself by throwing his supporters money into a fetish. The guy is dead his channel was losing views and he was stupid. One thing I know about transgender people is there very good at getting revenge love them or hate them they know what they're doing. This guy was talking to underage kids had them do his animations and is now sitting there on a hill of crap is supporters are pissed that he used the money on this fanfiction, now next thing is going to be all the groomer stuff and he's going to be called a pedophile it's already happening he's totally screwed. He destroyed himself for want of a demon booty. Not be surprised if he ends up being a sex offender because it looks like that's going to be the next step
I think you're trying to manufacture a lolcow. I think the greatest consequences of this have already happened. If anything people are showing up to old videos memeing about this and driving views and comments up. That's temporary, but I don't think he will be in any worse position over the leak than he was in before. The groomer stuff sounds really forced and you reiterating it sounds like you're one of the people forcing it, because the details behind claiming that aren't even widespread. You'd have to be spreading them yourself.
Yeah the guy is really autistic but doesn't seem cancel worthy at all. Wouldn't be surprised if she carries on as usual and people forget, or best case scenario he becomes kind of a meme and surfs on it.
He's a Tate Stan, and paid a underage minor to make the video. Those two are cancellable by themselves. Not to mention, he scammed his audience out of the money that was supposed to go to more beat box battles and is also at the very least transphobic. He's also having a bit of a breakdown right, especially considering it's around his fricking birthday as well.
I feel like lolcow is a stretch. Lolcows require 2 core elements: >cringy/autistic/mentally ill antics >An inability to walk away or go radio silent
A manufactured lolcow involves part 2 being "filled in" by people relentlessly fricking with them and deteriorating their mental state by using their dox to psychologically hold them hostage, calling their workplace/friends/family, deliberately trapping them in their own situation by bringing online shit into their personal life.
Whether or not he's cancelled is irrelevant to lolcowdom, that depends on his antics after this happens. As to whether or not he's cancelled, let's be honest, we don't decide that because we're not his demographic, but he's courted enough controversy that his demographic seemingly wants him gone
>but he's courted enough controversy that his demographic seemingly wants him gone
I'm not really seeing that. I see people claiming that's happening, but I don't actually see that happening. The dude comes across as harmless, if kind of cringe, but you didn't need a softcore AMV to leak to kind of get that the 40 year old creator of a cartoon beatbox battle channel is kind of cringe. Anyone who consumes his content and would cancel him over this lacks self-awareness. Which is possible, but I'm not seeing it.
>One thing I know about transgender people is there very good at getting revenge love them or hate them they know what they're doing. >Sterilized yourself >Gonna an hero in your 30-40s
They're nihilists.
So was he overpaying that much for the animation in his beatbox videos? Or was he animating those solo?
Surely he knows the going rate for this kinda work
I have heard both but I honestly think he just pays people in the end. He’s also a creative and creatives tend to pay each other more than non-creatives because they know the work behind the craft.
Pits funny hearing some of you homosexuals "he could have comissioned porn or get a hooker".
He wanted something tasteful with ending with a blackout screen when youre supossed to imagine what happens next. Are your brains so fricked up you need a straight up 5min zone style sex scene animated?
>UHHHHH DUMPING $50k ON A SELF INSERT WAIFU ANIMATION IS BASED ACTUALLY
If he had taken that $50k and invested it wisely he could have established his own independent animation studio and made a successful series where his ideal self (insert) has a romance with his ideal partner just like Vivziepop did and have people crawl out of the woodwork to draw them fricking FOR FREE. Not that I expect Cinemaphileomers to know how to invest and spend meaningfully and plan things in the long term.
Yeah but keep in mind he's black, black men get the short end of the stick in porn fanart. It's not like everyone is too racist to draw or commission black dudes on white chicks and there's always some Korean who'll hyperfixate on the pairing and draw fanart faster than chuds can edit it but in average he wouldn't be able to look his show up on Rule34 without most of the pages showing him getting NTR'd.
50k is nothing, a studio would be much more expensive than this.
Unless you meant, using it to make like a pilot or vertical slice, to pitch to Netflix or another service? Then the funding comes from outside instead of those lowly 50k.
I was just about to say, it's always hilarious when people try to do cheap inclusion in media and end up making something stereotypical, if not outright racist.
I was just about to say, it's always hilarious when people try to do cheap inclusion in media and end up making something stereotypical, if not outright racist.
Ah yes, the infamous “black guy eats people and uses magic” stereotype. It’s right up there with the “white people eat raw fish and know the songs of the sirens” and “Asians know the ancient language of the Illuminati” stereotypes. In what fricking world is a black cannibal using forbidden magic a stereotype. You sound moronic.
There’s barely even a connecting thread there other than magic and skin color. If he was portrayed as a fricking back alley magician grinding herbs and rat bones together then maybe I’d see it.
Spear chuckers anon. Cmon
>uhhh you see they’re…BLACK and…use MAGIC!!
You guys sound like those twittertards who get upset at anything dark skinned doing something moderately bad in an animation or show. Literal horseshoe theory.
Wish I could see the look on those homosexuals faces as they made something for a Black person to get off to, makes sense why they charged him so much now though
Don't be a hyper moron. It's not grooming.
A) suppose it weren't a team (a stupid notion in and of itself) he's paying an expert for a product
B) This is M at best. There's no explicit sex
C) The request had nothing to do with affecting the animator's sexual proclivity or activity and everything to do with beatboxnig getting a video
D) There no evidence they were underaged which means there's little chance that he'd know either. It's a last minute knife twist that people are running with so they can go at him without hesitation.
The word 'groom' in this context means prepared or conditioned for a role or purpose. Not even the least charitable interpretations can spin his actions as predatory towards the animator. Like it literally does not make sense. Also what parent would observe 47 thousand dollars get deposited into their ward's account and not ask questions? It's clearly a young adult at worst.
Hate the homosexualy terms from people talking about this, "softcore" "SA's". I've seen more erotic/rapey shit from mainstream music videos, hell even old kids cartoons. This shit was milquetoast as frick
Because zoomers are sheltered easily triggered weaklings that get offended at the drop of a hat. You wouldve thought the pandemic wouldve toughened them up and put some hair on their chest but nope
To think he could've gotten the actual experience with several high-class prostitutes cosplaying Charlie or a bunch of high quality porn/comic commissions with less of that money.
My dream is to get a bunch of cash and go full hunter biden and get a bunch of high class hookers to dress as various waifus of mine and then frick them raw while high on coke
Can someone explain why the twitter trannies are talking about angel getting raped. Did the sequence leak? The episode? Why are they insisting it was triggering and horribly graphic?
[...] >It's a team of people
The cost makes way more sense now
I wonder how the people who produced this felt about bringing to life the rape fantasy of some black middle aged dude.
was it a "bread is bread" situation?
Animators are no different from us. They probably loved working on it, whether by genuineness or the sheer brazenness of the idea. Whoever these Disney animators are, they only have their public image because Disney is “for kids”
>still dont know where to watch the early preview
I miss the days I could just hit up a torrent site and get all my shit (or IRC channel if we go back further)
A few years of streaming and now I'm fricking lost of where to get this stuff
Thank god someone's making a 2 hour video essay about this that'll be released in 3 months instead of writing two, MAYBE three sentences about how any of this happened
This is the same guy that put the whole grooming thing to bed, so if he makes a video, yes, best timeline indeed.
Meh, he had the decency of clearing up that the grooming rumor was fake, but he's still the guy who went off about how this Black person is against trannies
Steals money from other people, to do fetish video. Hires team with underage kids talks to underage kids. Probably has cheese pizza on computer. 40-year-old wacko but guys he's really nice. Literally make some sounds out of his mouth literally there's only living skill. Sorry to say this but call a spade a spade. For some reason people defend him because he dislikes transgender, he took $50,000 from people to make his fetish real
You have yet to say a single credible thing. Why should anyone believe you?
4 months ago
Anonymous
There's literally discord screenshots, of him taking the money and blowing it on this video stop pretending that didn't happen
On discord, an anon posted this in another thread
You want to defend the guy really.
4 months ago
Anonymous
That proves he spent money (we already knew this), but now you're saying he stole it?
4 months ago
Anonymous
People gave him the money to use on his stupid rap videos, took said money and put it in his fetish video.
4 months ago
Anonymous
You know this how?
4 months ago
Anonymous
Literally the post above you explain it. You are a dense person, he's a 40-year-old creepy Cwc you're no different than the guys who pay Cwc for feet pics because you want to support the guy
4 months ago
Anonymous
You're saying he stole money, which is a lot different from his output slowing. You really want to make this a thing, but you don't really have a leg to stand on. No, the guy being "creepy" doesn't mean I'll just take your word he's a groomer or a thief. Take your moral crusading back to twitter where you belong.
4 months ago
Anonymous
I still haven't gotten why you guys are defending him . What do you think you're going to get out of this. You're saying he's innocent and a good person. He is a scumbag who made sounds with his mouth literally that's it. He's not interesting it's not special he just a guy who made a bunch of noise and hired some animators to make some cartoons. That's it and he got popular with some kids which he groomed on discord. I don't know why you're defending him and why you're so desperate to defend him you can't even admit he took money and used it for his stupid fetish. 40 years old man and you're defending him like he's some 13-year-old kid who made a mistake. He's older than you and me and most of the people on here. Stop acting like the guy a little kid and needs to be protected. He screwed himself and he's now paying for it. To quote a phrase I've heard if you love them so much will you let him move into your house when he's broke
4 months ago
Anonymous
>I still haven't gotten why you guys are defending him
I could say the same about your moral crusade. I'm just not biting the bullshit. You're the one taking the effort to try forcefeeding it. I was laughing alongside everyone else when it was just about the video, but don't start posting blatant bullshit and expect me to just believe it like you blind twittards.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Something bad about him, I dare you.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>You're saying he's innocent and a good person
Everyone is innocent until proven guilty. That's the minimum amount of decency anyone deserves. You're an actual child
>Steals money from other people, to do fetish video
Not ILLEGAL...Per say, but not moral either >Hires team with underage kids talks to underage kids.
LITERAL DEFAMATION, sparced by troons trying to defame a guy, because He went against their shitty cult >Probably has cheese pizza on computer
Projection
4 months ago
Anonymous
You are getting desperate, here he is literally begging for money https://youtu.be/k1l_3leCKhw?si=YLK1ZuYSerbUAS6Q
4 months ago
Anonymous
What? I am saying that He didn't stole money, but I never mentioned how he didn't frick himself monetarily
4 months ago
Anonymous
Let me put it to you simple, people pay me to make something I take the money that people paid me and I put it into my fetish. Now I have no more money to make the stuff that I agreed to make. He broke his contract / agreement end of story
4 months ago
Anonymous
Going by patreon moronic politics, He isn't stealing, as much as I find it moronic, it isn't illegal, and this isn't the first time someone didn't delivered (just see like the thousand furgay scam porn games)
4 months ago
Anonymous
So you're telling me he's a scammer. And yet you're still defending him
4 months ago
Anonymous
Wut? I am just pointing out the lies, I would be fricking pissed if some Black person went, said some promises, and then spent it all in fricking soft-porn
4 months ago
Anonymous
He technically Miss allocated funds. He is a scammer scumbag. Yeah you're still trying to defend the guy on technicalities. And yeah you still have not explained why you are defending him.
Thank god someone's making a 2 hour video essay about this that'll be released in 3 months instead of writing two, MAYBE three sentences about how any of this happened
talk about making a mountain over a molehill.
feels mean spirited even. he made a terrible financial decision and said some politically incorrect remarks, so what?
this shit is not even funny enough to last more than a couple of days in public consciousness.
Money came from his patreon, he took other people's money that it was supposed to spend on his videos and spent it on his fetish stop pretending that did not happen
You are not obligated to spend patreon money on your projects, it doesn’t work like that.
Insisting that he stole the 50k to commission the animation literally didn’t come up UNTIL the air was cleared about him ( not ) commissioning a minor.
stop defending the guy I know that he probably sent you here to defend him. The guy is a 40-year-old wacko stop pretending he's not too much has come out. Screwed over his supporters, I don't know why you're defending him except maybe out of a duty that you got a boner from the video
It's cringe, but not that cringe. He had the self-awareness not to put it out there, even if that didn't save him from having it made in the first place.
Police? Nah. You're just going to fall into a tunnel one day.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Don't send me with Pennywise
Spear chuckers anon. Cmon
I wonder why African tribes are always the first ones turn to cannibalism for food. Surely there was birds or berries they could eat, right?
4 months ago
Anonymous
>I wonder why African tribes are always the first ones turn to cannibalism for food. Surely there was birds or berries they could eat, right?
They were literally getting out competed by fricking elephants until settlers came along and helped them deal with this problem. Thats why, this isn't even a fricking joke.
4 months ago
Anonymous
If that's true, then how come they were able to survive just fine during pre-history and Egyptian times?
4 months ago
Anonymous
Because what I said has nothing to do what you just said.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Not him but the subsaharan desert.
Ironically, the thing that isolated them from the rest of the world was what kept them from being entirely annihilated by everyone else.
4 months ago
Anonymous
By resorting to things like cannibalism and moving around a lot. The elephants keep following them though apparently, which is funny as hell.
He's begging for money because he took the money to make a fetish animation. No one is disagreeing with this, he is a scumbag and a scammer no one is disagree with this. So why are you defending him. Because he dislikes trannies? A lot of people dislike troony's do you defend every person who just likes Chinese he does a bad thing because that's most people in human history
The guy scammed his patreon supporters, now he has to make his stuff with puppets . Spends 20 minutes begging for money https://youtu.be/k1l_3leCKhw?si=YLK1ZuYSerbUAS6Q what the hell are we arguing about
what if he instead of charlie it was niffty
frick
What if instead of it being about Charlie, it was instead about Nifty?
I would have whipped it out for that.
His only crime was mismanaging his personal finances, IF the 50k figure is even true
It's true, he said he spent 47k on it back in 2021
Said where
On discord, an anon posted this in another thread
I would assume that this video isnt the only thing the money was spent on.
With that money I could use that to get blown by at least 12,000 hookers... Or I could buy a new car for quarter the total amount but whatever.
getting kidnapped and raped by your waifu is priceless anon
>On discord, an anon posted this in another thread
>47k
Oh wow. All for that and no penetration
lol lmao verbalase
Frickin’ imbecile…
>back in 2021
At least he has an excuse. Stable Diffusion AI wasn't around there in any capacity... and we can still pretend he spent the other 40k on an unreleased 30min porn of him and Charlie.
>Hydro
Is that a closed eyes Fluttershy avatar?
we need to find the porn and give it a direct to dvd release
I'm not a cartoon expert but it's 3 minutes of handdrawn animation, so I doubt it'd come cheap. It was during around his peak popularity and it's gone down somewhat since then, but he's definitely not hurting financially
50K is entirely reasonable for 3 mins worth of animation made by I assume an actual team. Actual numbers almost never get thrown around for stuff like this, but Planet Panic's pilot short(also 3 mins) notably cost around 200k.
That's very interesting. Seems like normies just don't know how much animation actually costs if it's not cheap dogshit.
Nobody seems to know how much animation actually costs, it seems. At the very least Cinemaphile seems flabbergasted than an entire music video could be fairly expensive.
I'll just leave this here
9,400 for one year is
25.75-342$ for one day.
25$ for one day.
And he spent how much?
He was very rich at the time so I imagine he was paying top dollar to be generous
>t. said the McDonalds wagecuck
>boy howdy Hollywood(who gets free printed bucks) is moronic enough to throw 100k per 1 minute around, jeez that definitely is how much animation costs yep yep yep. Bread definitely costs 35$ and 100$ for wonder bread!!! mmmm wonder bread.
America is a israelite ethnostate with fake dollars being thrown around, yes we know. WE KNOW. Otherwise art wouldn't be tax free. Art isn't tax free outside of America.
You still could've gotten a reasonably animated pilot running at 22 minutes for that much. After Zeruel's workload, that's also the budget for a new episode of Monkey Wrench.
>You still could've gotten a reasonably animated pilot running at 22 minutes for that much.
Like what?
I... I just gave you an example anon. Your reading comprehension is complete dogshit.
I wasn't aware how long an episode of Monkey Wrench was. The words "new episode" and "pilot" didn't corroborate with each other.
Monkey Wrench's actually longer than 22 minutes. It's 29 minutes and 20 seconds. If you factor 22 minutes being 75% of that, then that would make a 22 minute Monkey Wrench $40,650 / $75,000. Going even further, something with that quality a 11 minutes would be $20,325 / $32,500 or 7 minutes at $12,934 / $23,863. As many pointed out, Monkey Wrench was was more animated that it really needed to be, so cutting the animation budget in half to still look pretty good is:
>22 minutes: $20,325 / $32,500
>11 minutes: $101,62 / $17,500
>7 minutes: $6,467 / $11,931
Let's assume additional smart cost-cutting measure and round off 7 minutes with $10,000.
What's my point with all of this math? The money spent on this fetish material could've been used to fund FIVE 7-minute pilots, which would be a dream come true to so many people with ideas of their own they want to see realized. If we go 11 minutes, that's about three pilots, or funded a 22 minute show with money left over for another 11 one.
He could've even funded these people who had ideas he liked and receive an executive producer credit, making him a notable name in the indie animation scene.
If you want to blow $50k on animation do it, but be smart about it. Instead he's probably going to regret it and this will be his identity from now on, as the guy who spent $50k on a 3 minute fetish animation with traced symbols where Charlie doesn't even get naked.
>He could've even funded these people who had ideas he liked and receive an executive producer credit, making him a notable name in the indie animation scene.
I've got money to burn, where do I find these pilots in need of funding
Now how does Verbalase’s payment compare to Helluva Boss!
That took 8 months to create and we don't really know how long this project took. Also seems like a ton of the project was done by the creator without factoring that into the budget.
>Also seems like a ton of the project was done by the creator without factoring that into the budget.
but he straight up tells you he paid $2500 for 60 seconds of animation
the episode is 30 minutes long. $2500/min * 30 minutes = $75,000
hes not hiding his own cost from the rate, he's hiding it from the total episode cost by 'working for free'
the rate is inline with what viv got caught paying animators working on the hazbin finale. there was a big thread about it earlier this week
But at the same time the debate was brought up if Monkey Wrench needed to have as fluid animation as it did? A lot of it felt unnecessary and Zeurel being a perfectionist and if he was smarter, could've drastically cut the animation budget and still have things look decent enough.
So what you're saying is this 50k animation should've cost around 10-12k, maybe 15k if you are being generous.
The animation was made by one person and said personal (allegedly) was a minor at the time.
Portions of it looked traced from the Hazbin Hotel pilot as well. There is tons of animation errors too.
"got caught paying"
lmao, they should be paid peanuts.
It's not tho
The actual Hazbin animators were getting paid a rate of $35 for a second of anination
This short would've cost less than $6000 from the people who actually worked on the show. We can even be nice and assume this amateur team charged a bit for boarding and backgrounds, and MAAAYBE you could bring the total up to $12k
An actual pilot/short/whatever will also have to pay writers, musicians, voice actors, legal consulting, union fees, etc etc but none of that applies here
as someone who is hoping to make an online pilot in the future, what's that part about legal consulting? if all i'm doing is paying for VAs and someone to do the BGM, what is the legal consulting part? anything that explains this more in depth?
That's more for if you're trying to go big-time and do things like merch and licensing. You'll probably want a consultant to check over contracts before you sign to make sure you aren't getting fleeced
Or if you do any work with a union, make sure all your bases are covered. Don't be like Maxwell Atoms
cool, thanks anon
I take it all back. You really are your daddy's little girl.
Sincerely,
A.D
I say, the peasants are getting uppity with jealousy again. $50k? I could spend that every day and it wouldn't put a dent in my finances. By jove, I spent TEN times that on my last trip to Epstein island.
Which is still running by the way.
>Which is still running by the way.
I actually believe this because it makes too much sense
They replaced Epstein as ringleader the minute they sent people to murder him. Someones BEEN the new leader for a while.
is that miranda sings?
Nobody is saying he broke a law. Everyone is calling him a clown for commissioning low quality animation for 50k that didn't even have any nudity or sex.
look like the animator was 15 years old, this guy's cooked he was already facing the fact that he was dying channel. But the way he worked was he put so much money in one project and then took the money that was made from the next project for the next project very simple. The dummy took the money that was needed to keep his finances flowed and put it into a project of self satisfaction, in this created about a 6 month Gap so he killed his entire channel and if he had released this cartoon in that window it would have been better cuz he could have recoup some of the loss . But instead he buried it. And now he's broke, no way to get back, no one's going to support him he's not going to get advertisers, and effect he's done the hood. He came from the ghetto and is going back
>a 15 year old can animate better than most studios
>Black YTer e-celeb in his late 30s commissioned him to make softcore AMV
This is a way to start 2024
He was 15 years old? Frick this I’m going to learn animation this year
>Frick this I’m going to learn animation this year
Same.
He could always get a white cop to beat his ass up then sue somebody.
Nah he got ripped off. He could have gotten 10 or so video commissions of the same quality but with actual porn for that price.
He paid for the Disney animators credentials basically. They were taking him for a ride, same shit for his other animations. Saw they were charging him 30~40k for his other vids
He should have paid Erika Henningsen/Jill Harris to record him a "Happy Birthday" video.
I might not be a youtube expert but I see his channel has literally 100s of millions of video views
Even by lower estimates from other tubers I've seen he should be earning like 6 figures a year
how the frick did 50k bankrupt him?
buy an ad, homosexual
OH MY GOD THERE'S BEEN 10 THREADS ABOUT THIS SHIT IN ONE DAY SHUT UP ALREADY
heh
okay I'll go back to posting about ADC
This is going to be an insane lawsuit
There's no case. It's not monetized. Just some commissioned softcore smut from some youtuber's private collection.
lmao the fact that this is getting more attention than the actual show getting leaked is so dumb and I love it
Enough to destroy any cartoon series
I'm taking notes.
Where can you even see that shit?
What if Plankton paid $50K just to get that stupid formula
instead he got a video a bad musicvideo of him stealing the formula
I now understand why people find waifugays cringe, and I say that as a diehard waifugay of many years.
Couldn't he have paid this much to animate Scooby vs Courage instead? Goddamn it
So.
Was the hooker worth the post nut clarity?
Oh, nice, very sexy anon. Thanks for taking one for the team.
Sandy cheeks? More like sandeez nuts
it really is ridiculous and is something I will never forget, and I'm not going lie it would have been less cringe if it was a grey anon insert
50k on a Hazbin/Helluva girl and it's not Millie, Loona or Katie Killjoy is just sad.
honestly thought we'd see Angel Dust break these numbers before Charlie did but here I am being proven wrong
Insanity
I hate to be that guy, but...
I could easily get porn of my self insert fricking Charlie that's not the price of a small house, he fricked up by asking for the most high quality studio animation.
Anyone got a link to it?
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-y-aZJO3O0q3z3sidUz4sncOc7DVay4R/view
>too many people have downloaded or viewed this file
Also Viv may try to bury this, but it's far too late.
https://streamable.com/9ogh1n
This is funny and all but did verbalase ever showed signs that he loved Charlie? You don't make shit like this unless you really really like your waifu
You think this is a fricking conspiracy?
No but I want to see him tweeting or thirsting for her in his youtube channel or tiktok or whatever. A person like this DOESN'T shut up about their waifu chrus.
hes industrious, the type to keep it close chested and compartmentalized only to pull it out as a trump card of indulgence
black men are not safe around this woman, whatever will they do?
I shall drop my pants.
They will yield to HER
She can't get me.
Reminder that this keeps getting taken down by Vivziepop, so it's canon that Charlie is a coal burner.
White girls love the big chocolate meat, you know?
Isn't it Verbalase who takes them down?
Yes, but anon is one of those.
>Reminder that this keeps getting taken down by Vivziepop, so it's canon that Charlie is a coal burner.
So Vaggie is black?
Vaggie’s a Mexican.
>”Don’t get your taco in a twist!”
>”Was that supposed to be racist or sexist?”
>”Whatever pisses you off more.”
So is Vaggie Viz's self insert recalling the dyke who groomed her at art school?
How is Vivzie able to take it down? Couldn't it fall under parody?
This is the funniest shit that’s happened so far this year!!!
Shut it down
>This video contains content from Create Network AFF, who has blocked it on copyright grounds
Has that picture art thumbnail been found in full high quality?
Friendly reminder the only source on "Verbalase went bankrupt" is a twitter user who hates Verbalase for making wrongthink statements on discord, also because they have a personal grudge with a person close to Verbalase.
He literally has a "please gib money" video up on his channel though.
Yes, but that´s because his channel severely dropped in popularity over the past two years, not because of the animation.
Sheesh could it be because he didn't upload anything for 6 months to work on his coomer video? Nah.
He paid for the video back in mid 2021, he was still pumping out several of his animated beatbox episodes after that
>This thing took almost 3 years
It feels like an autist got their first taste of rich and thought they already had frick you money
Nah he got exposed and has to deal with that, the porn itself and the fact that the animator was underage. What a way to go down.
>animator was underage
Did he know or? Cause if he didn’t and the animator never disclosed their age then ehh.
>He drew porn when he was under 18 you sick frick!
>animator was underage.
Who cares? One of the worst kept secrets in internet fandom is that 90% of NSFW content creators are underaged. Hell, pre 2017 it was even considerd totally acceptable and Tumblr had no problem with people under 18 publically making NSFW stuff.
Its only after the social radicalization of the internet starting in 2018 that it became a problem.
moron
why are blacks like this
>only black people are gooners
Nobody tell this man about Oil Baron Arabs.
wtf is wrong with you homosexuals
stop shillin this mid shit
Don't care coomergays. Won't watch.
I bring you all my lastest shitpost
>no one posting links
Open wide! https://litter.catbox.moe/17dtki.mp4
cheers
Haha fishe
>AI version keeps getting posted
based, it's the true version
I literally haven't heard the original.
baka dummies here's the high res original vid
I need to see some good reaction images from the high res version
I haven't been following the story. Why is there an AI version? Where does the original HD version comes from? AFAIK there was only a low res version on youtube
>Why is there an AI version?
some anon in one of the first threads made it
an anon made it and posted it because he loves his wife charlie
Thanks
holy shit this is embarassing
how do you come back from something this about you getting leaked
Is it really AI? Pretty well done. The low res youtube version is almost unwatchable, so...
I kept it though, and I just uploaded it just for (You): https://litter.catbox.moe/v356b3.webm
Gotta admit, for 50k he probably could've hired an actual IRL pornstar to dress up as Charlie and savagely bang a bed to destruction with him on it.
It is a bit of a waste.
For 50K he could have gotten to physically experience that every day for at least a month straight.
We've already been over this- its not the same and you normgroids just don't get it.
Touch grass
you think paying for an ugly prostitute dressed up in a costume is on the same spiritual level as this, kys
just pay for a non-ugly prostitute then
all prostitutes are ugly because they are 3D, dumb normgroid thats the fn point
holy autism
touch grass
prostitutes detected lmao
What no pussy does to a mf
>normgroid
Fricking kek. Is this the socially acceptable way to say normalgay without saying normie like a fricking loser?
I can be so much more expressive in public now
Why would you care about social acceptance by normgroids
>ugly prostitute
He could have a high-end escort give him this experience for a week at $50K.
He could probably convince his IRL oneitis to give him this for at least a month with $50K.
A regular hooker could probably give him this for 2 or 3 months.
An ugly hooker could probably do it for 6 months.
A third worlder would probably do it for a year at half price and then unironically embrace the persona for life in pursuit of the remaining $25K.
moron still doesnt get it.
Its not always about the money, Spiderman.
>moron still doesnt get it.
>Its not always about the money, Spiderman.
He could have paid college kids to build him a fricking AI Charlie waifubot as a capstone project.
No one's saying it's about the money. It's about how he just fumbled so fricking hard that he failed even as a coomer cartoon lover. He could live a life with a custom AI playing out this fantasy every day for him, remixed ever so slightly every time so as to never make the experience boring. It's quite frankly insane.
>No one's saying it's about the money.
You LITERALLY are you dumbfrick.
We keep telling you Verbalase didn't want some ugly escort/hooker, its nowhere on the same level but being the normie frickwit you are its like were typing in mandarin and you refuse to just take the L and accept you don't understand the power of waifuism.
Generative AI, videogames, comic books, other animation studios, etc. are "hookers" now?
Can you even read?
I introduce you to the power of going outside
If you’re sayinb
> lol get a hooker
> lol no sex
You’re going in the same drawer as the “just watch porn” mouthbreathers.
Still a better love story than Twilight.
But her love with Mordecai is pure.
So the Gaystapo is here too? Ironic that one of most oppressed groups became oppressive and will cancel you for being straight. Just like you did to Jocat.
>Jocat
Man, watching people pretend that the majority of people giving him shit were 'right wingers who think him liking women is gay' rather than seethoids claiming it's misogyny to like women or LGBT mafia types was some crazy shit.
The only people sending him mail bomb threats were right wingers anon
Yeah this was some psyop bullshit. This is what happens when you base your career off of pandering to lefty morons and trannies and then step "out of line" for even half a second. They will throw you over the railing for whatever miniscule infraction they can think of.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes, maybe he learned a lesson in not pandering to those morons.
>His latest videos are being disliked bombed
My man's innocent.
>black man lusts over blonde girl
>gets hanged for his crimes
Based?
It's a modern day "To Kill a Mockingbird" in a way
This gave me a laugh when my day was shit and I felt defeated and angry. Thanks anon.
>>His latest videos are being disliked bombed
homie for fricking what? This is cringe and a gross mismanagement of money but far from worthy of being dislike bombed compared to exponentially worse people, artist, and commissions
YouTube doesn't have dislike counter anymore, why are you lying?
pretending to be moronic is still being moronic
I don't get it, is Verbalaise the guy who self inserted or the guy who animated it? I normally don't care for YT animators
Both, he did work on it apparently but the bulk of it was made by another animator.
It's a testament to Viv's talent in character design that a guy would willingly bankrupt himself just to get a 3-minute mediocre music video of his self-insert getting raped by Charlie.
>Cinemaphile is mad that they will never reach this same level of autism as this 40-year-old beat boxer.
Kinda sad tbh
>40-year-old
Yep
Im not even sure if the 50k part is true, but if it turns out to be legit then he got ripped the frick off.
Could have employed a small team of koreans slaves to animate a full 30 min sex scene with that amount of money.
I used to think that the Cartoon Beatbox Battle was the most autistic shit, then I saw the guy commissioned a 47k animation of Charlie seducing him.
He was a hero, I didn't know it yet.
>I used to think that the Cartoon Beatbox Battle was the most autistic shit
>then I saw the guy commissioned a 47k animation of Charlie seducing him
Well clearly you weren't wrong
never heard of this guy or watched this show and i also dont support blackedshit but this homie is based akin to toriyama
>based
Who? The coomer who wasted money or the guys who got 50K thanks to his autism?
The guy who made 50K, is better off of the guy who's begging for money because he spent 50K on a fetish
>Charlie will never look at you like this, absolutely consumed by lust
pain
I'm on Cinemaphile anon. NO woman will ever look at me that way.
>her face when she sees your dick
>her face when she sees your dick
>Just get a hooker
I hate this normie infested board
People are just telling you it's cheaper.
I mean frick, know what 50k could get you?
200 $250 high quality still images of the nastiest shit you can imagine.
There are better ways to spend money, that's all people are saying.
How many times do we have to tell you, it not bc of price, its literally not even the same
>Nooo, I don't want a literal archive of images of the most degenerate, Astrid+Pigs tier shit humanly possible
>I just want 3 minutes of softcore
Your loss I suppose
After all the shit this put him through, it looks like Verbalase is in a Hell of his own making
Let's think about this logically. Ignoring the "Why didn't he spend money on x or y instead?"
That 47k could have been spent on.
>Several high quality commissions of him fricking Charlie
>A full comic of him fricking Charlie
>A cheaper video of him him fricking Charlie, in-betweens be damned
>An indie video game of him fricking Charlie
>A hooker and Charlie cosplay to frick
If he wanted to get his nut off to Charlie porn and his self insert, he could have done it for a fraction of the price.
>An indie video game of him fricking Charlie
>Game about being chased down and raped by a demon girl
Imagine.png
Exactly. This man got scammed on the same level as the Fyre Festival and didn't bother to just find different artists that work for way less and specialize in coom art. This is some amateur tier gooning.
should have used Verosika
>Charlie lusting for Verosika
Fantastic idea anon.
Holy frick what an ugly art style
it's AI generated
>got introduced to Hazbin because someone recommended him Helluva Boss
>didn't commission animated rape porn of Verosika instead
he might as well have just burned that 50k
Such a dissappointment, especially since Versoika seems like the kind of girl that would prostitute herself for a guy she finds cute.
He could have paid that 50k to an actual anime studio for a 2 minute video lmao
A full episode of anime cousts about 100k, and that includes low animation scenes where it's just dialogue.
For 50 grand he probably could have gotten 2 or 3 minutes of high quality animation for his music video.
It looks way better in HD
I've been trying to finish this video for like 20 minutes, 20 seconds overdoses me on second-hand embarrassment.
>20 seconds
You've seen nothing. You are like, a little baby.
You can't let cringe control you forever.
Ask that special someone in your life to chain you to the bed and hold the screen over your face.
I am like this but this doesn't give me second hand embarrassment. I like the song, have no interest is vizvietrash and think the dude is a basedmoron.
Second hand embarrassment is meant for other more important things, like characters saying mean things when they don't know the person they are talking about is listening.
>paid 50K for self insert when Generative AI is sitting right there
Honestly, the art community should be uplifting this man. He's single-handedly pumping lifeblood into their industry.
His only mistake was trying to hide it
Dude coulda paid a white hooker to cosplay as charlie and gotten to frick her over and over again.
I still can't believe this stupid Black person would humiliate himself and commit career suicide like this. Self insert shit is so fricking cringe.
He wasnt even the one that posted it.
It was some underage discord user after the animator showed in privately to him and a few others.
Some redub it with Rasputin.
now imagine the same video but replace verbalase with charlie from smiling friends
You mean replace Charlie with Charlie.
Now THAT would have been something to behold.
I felt so much second hand embarrassment after going through like 10 seconds of the video. If I was him I would kill myself.
Show me the champion of second hand embarrassment and I'll show you the herald of sensible chuckling
The only cringe part of the vid was the "you are a part of me" break down. The rest of the cringe is meta shit. If you had no context you wouldn't care.
Anon animated characters lip syncing to songs is always cringe
Not really, no
Like, to follow this up, it's actually LESS cringe than anything from Mystery Skulls which apes anime on top of being overly serious self-inserting. And it's kind of as horny as Lone Digger? Hard to say. Digger is more explicit but less indulgent.
Point being for animated vids it's pretty par. Watching her shimmy in the moon while he runs through the cityscape has 0 coom levels and very much feels like a cringe indi animated music video, honestly.
Why do we care? Are you guys just jealous?
This was probably secretly animated by Vivzie herself at a undisclosed price (rumored $50k USD).
Smart move if so. I had entirely avoided the show until now. I knew almost literally nothing about it. Now the AI cover has me thinking I like her voice.
Some anon posted a mirror of the vid
And so will I in this thread
anyone itt advocating for prostitution is a normalgay that needs to gtfo
Wait, the guy who animated this was 15 years old?
/ic/ BTFO
>$50k
Man I could use that money to make my short animated pilot. I probably wouldn't even need $50,000 more like $7k to $10k max.
Patreon?
Guess that could work. Though I heard Patreon has done some scummy shit in the past.
marge im confused
Quick anon!
Charlie's dragging you back to the
TEXAN
RAPE
DUNGEONS
What do you do?!
Accept. I'm already in Texas anyway. Se can rape me in this underground bunker my grandpa built in 1959.
Same state!
close my eyes and just accept my fate
Senpai
What's the most you've ever spent on a "commission," Cinemaphile?
I've spent $100 on one for my OC which seems pretty standard.
300 for like full color/shading + background + alternate from a fairly popular artist.
Usually though its about 100-120 for a nice piece
$0
Never commissioned. I did buy some porn comics for 10 bucks once though. Was disappointed, it's not better than free porn I'll tell you that.
I got to use dalle in October so I got it out of my system for free.
600 on a painting of my FFXIV character.
About $120 but I got a double for that.
What bothers me is that Charlie isn’t even behaving in character in it.
What do you mean she's not in-character?
I just don’t see her being yandere. She’s supposed to be disney princess levels of sweet and innocent, with maybe very slightly hinted at anger issues. Also she may canonically be lesbian. And everything about her romantic relationship with Vaggie is supposed to look sweet and tender. I don’t think she’s even into bdsm.
BUT, if for some reason somebody would choose to portray her as super horny and yandere, then they should at the very least be having her hulk out into her scary demon mode with the horns. The amv only occasionally has her flashing her pointy teeth a little. She should either not be hunting down and raping a boy at all, or she should be doing so while transforming into a terrifying monster. No pussy ass in between.
Now I want a yandere Disney princess.
I’m pretty sure somebody must’ve done something like this before, but I’m struggling coming up with any examples I feel confident in.
Bro he dropped 50k on this, he can portray her anyway he wants.
And I can say what he wanted was stupid.
it's totally in character that she craves wiener more than anything after having to settle with lesbian sex with her Hispanic girlfriend, she's starving man
Do people actually like the video?
Look i like popular toon girls in underwear and trying to seduce a guy/being sexy.
But i'm not sure how anyone see's the video as anything other then sad and pathetic.
I don't really see the difference between it/this and soni-chu.
What's the difference?
>What's the difference
Fortyseven grand give or take. But you are moronic if you think this is anything like Sonichu. I DOES remind me of Daryl's Amphibia opening take over though.
>Daryl's Amphibia opening take over
QRD?
Personally reminds me of that one freak on Powerpuff Girls who wanted to frick Blossom
>freak
Neo-/co/.
Yandere is not being sexually aggressive. Yandere is being controlling as a woman, that is passive control. Removing things they want until they have nothing else but you. She just perused him with seemingly no self-awareness or malice here.
Don't know the character. Frick Vivzie but that's not yandere.
A yandere kill your family and moves into your house because they are your real family now. She doesn't force you to move in with her so that your family stop getting in the way of her seduction.
Yeah I'd consider making a self insert who wanted to date a literal child a freak you disgusting fricking pedophile
>literal child
It's a fricking mutant and a cartoon character, there are no children involved and you should get your outraged ass back to xitter
>Um ACKSHYUALLY its okay that she looks 7 because shes a 5000 year old dragon and UHHHH ITS A CARTOON????
Disgusting weak-wristed response I would expect from a disgusting troon pedophile.
Go groom children homosexual
have a nice day and go back to twitter outrage gay
>buzzwords, buzzwords, buzzwords
We all know people who pretend to be outraged over cartoon porn are the real groomers, so you might want to stop posting
>don't you get it? By getting upset about this child porn you're the real monster
I... You're right. I never considered it that way
Anon it's more about how it draws attention away from real life child molestation and pornography
I remember reading once that child protection groups literally tell people not to report that because it wastes their time and money going after it
I politely disagree with your perception of the term yandere, but if you want to swap out the word “yandere” with just simple “rapist” to make it easier on you, then I believe my point still stands. If you watch the actual Hazbin Hotel (and you shouldn’t, it’s not that good), then you’ll see this character isn’t like that.
Thing is, getting a comm of your OC banging some IP character is kinda whatever. Hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people have done it over the past two decades.
Reason people are clowning on Verb is because the price tag is absolutely ludicrous and usually most people keep shit like that to themselves or very very small trustworthy circles.
You dont post that shit on Youtube and have it be your literal self insert that looks exactly like you.
I just pretend it's a random character instead of someone's self insert and all is good. It's easy since I didn't know the guy at all.
>Charliegays will forever be associated with this homie
LOL
>50k for this choppy babby's first bdsm fantasy
Guess I must be a real sex pervert but I only found this thing cringe and really tame.
>commision for 50k
>It's not even porn
What the frick is his problem?
where do you think most of the money went to anon
50k for 3mins? are you kidding me?
there's an at minimum 30min sex animation of charlie out there and someone's gonna leak it
I don't see co pay to get artists to make short videos.
Let's do a challenge, a challenge no one will take, cause everyone here is a hypocrite/idiot and is wrong.
Ok so take co board-tan character, and find some artist online, and pay them to make a video of co board character doing shit.
It doesn't matter what he does, maybe he becomes a super hero.
The video has to be 3 mins long, and hd.
And let's see how much it costs, and if it's half as good as the shit verbalace made.
Let's be honest, co could not do this.
But i'd like to see someone try, prove me wrong b***hes.
I will never be proven wrong, and this post is my bet.
C-can Cinemaphile-tan tie up and mount Charlie? (Charlie is my self insert in this scenario)
>tfw I’m tempted, but I’m tapped out from spending a load of money on vet bills saving my cat
Well at least I spent it on pussy instead.
Corny.
The only art of Cinemaphile tan I would ever want made is him getting shot in the face by Moonman (/pol/)
Cinemaphile doesn't do shit as always, but Cinemaphile has a few projects like that
it's a remake but i guess it counts since it's the same guy
sounds like a plan.
everyone give me the money so I can pay the artist in one go.
>bad animation of BMWF released
>Cinemaphile obsesses over it for weeks
https://vocaroo.com/1B6oQYku4aAS
Sonia coming in clutch.
Frick it, do you have more SU vocaroos? I doubt archive anon lists them. Do you have a collection of favourites? I'm in the mood for another round of laughter.
I can't believe there are people in this thread getting mad instead.
It's only been a day, and the "controversy" is already losing steam. It's not nearly as embarrassing and hilarious as what happened to animatedjames. This dude just fricked himself and his projects financially and that's about it.
>what happened to animatedjames
I don't recall who's this, qrd?
It isn't that deep, but requesting a minor to do animated risque videos could be easily misunderstood as grooming, even if there was no intention of it.
>I don't recall who's this, qrd?
black dude who was semi-famous online during the early-mid 10s due to making pony and sonic animations. people eventually found out he had alt accounts where he uploaded fart porn to. he was teased about it, had a mental breakdown, and is now laying low
> is now laying low
I thought at one point he started to embrace it
He did but he got mindbroken when psychicpebbles Skype called him to make a bunch of fart noises in the voice chat and asked if that turned him on.
>most of HH/HB is 'DUDE SEX DUDE SEX DUDE SEX'
>someone comms a softcore porn animation
>eeeerm what the frick??
Women hate sex.
It's probably more about the fact that it's a self-insert that cost almost as much as the median American income.
>softcore porn
>self insert
>50k
It is a wtf moment for sure.
so many weird decisions
No one has told me that Charlie likes her coffee black. I know now I will never have a chance to date her, knowing her taste in men.
When the bills start coming
When the mf rent is do
People will do ANYTHING!!
why do people care about this so much anyways
are there really no cartoons worth talking about anymore?
It's funny when a 40 year old man, lusts so hard after a cartoon character destroys himself both financially and reputation. He's going to end up living off welfare in some crappy apartment in the middle of New York. The irony is that he was destroyed by the daughter of the devil. On top of that the whole creation of this video is controversial to say the least the animators have worked on it appear to be his fans that were underage. I don't see any way of him coming back from this . From what I've read one of the people that released this content on his birthday along with all the other leaks had a personal grudge against him and his supporters on the discord and called him a groomer.
Imagine not having 50k lying around
can't he just keep gaining money from his youtube vids?
The gap in uploads that his commission caused crippled his channel's momentum and he has never reached pre-commission viewership.
Dead board
It's fricking FUNNY thats why
This is like some Helen of Troy stuff man wants a woman so badly he destroys his kingdom. A man wants a cartoon character so badly he destroys his life. And to add insult to injury the character is a lesbian, the person he paid was under age. And now at the age of 40 on his birthday he is being called a pedophile, transphobic and a stupid man child.
It's his birthday?!!
Cake and ice cream is on its way
maybe not the kind of cake he would prefer
>And to add insult to injury the character is a lesbian
I mean, no one in this show is straight. He should just assumed that was the case already.
No respect for degenerates
>he has to make shit up to get upset
>NOOO SHE'S A LESBIAN
Not according to the video, women fold for the wiener and the wallet
i thought charlie was bi
>the person he paid was under age
I heard this rumor but where is the proof? I seen someone say the animator was 15 or 17, some saying it was a studio, and other people saying we have no idea who it was
Honestly it's such a nothingburger that if someone went to the kid's high school and got him on video shaking hands with Verbalase and exchanging a big monopoly bag of money I still would not actually care.
trans rights are not human rights.
I don't get why people say "he could have gotten porn or a hooker for the same price!" I mean, no shit, he could get something else for the money, but that's just as true at 50 dollars as it is at 50k. The nature of the content is kind of irrelevant because 50k for porn is equally absurd and if he actually wanted that, he could get it. He got exactly what he wanted though, he just paid an asinine amount for it. Not in comparison to anything else, just period.
>commission custom made cosplay
>find the closest prostitute
>drive her to the nearest clinic have her tested
>find a hotel
He could have paid for all of this shit and still had 40k left. It's the just how hilariously skewed the input vs output was here
Like I said, if he wanted that he could have gotten that. I don't think if you caught him before he spent the money and told him he could get a prostitute instead, he would have done anything differently. It's not that he didn't know prostitutes or porn are available. That's just not what he wanted. He wanted something with a higher price tag, but I think specifically for what he wanted and nothing else, he still paid too much.
>I think specifically for what he wanted and nothing else, he still paid too much.
thats what i meant by the output not matching the input. unless youre some kinda angel investor looking for returns, 50k on an animation you could have gotten done for exponentially cheaper and similar (if not better) quality by the average rule34 animator is beyond overpayment.
Anon, you don't get it. It isn't even about the porn, this is the kind of thing you do when you're rich, think you're richer than you actually and wanna do something crazy/eccentric with your money.
People with that kinda money do crazy things like buying big armored military vehicles, and having exotic animals. It's a flex based around not realizing your 15 minutes of fame and fortune will come to an end.
He could have gotten a hooker, and dressed her in a fancy show accurate Charlie cosplay for less than this. Hell, he could have probably gotten a sugar baby or a trophy gf and considering the BDSM set up in the video and depending on how many times they did it, it'd still be like 25k
With 50k I could get myself a top-end PC with 5 monitors and a VR headset and an automatic Fleshlight for porn games.
How does one even reach that levels of horny where your brain is so fogged that you think spending 50k on a AMV of yourself getting sexual assaulted is a great investment?
He's Goonordial lifeforms from goon space, that's why.
>think
He didn't.
I imagine the only thing stopping a lot of guys is not having 50k.
He took the money he needed to invest in other projects and put it into a fan fiction. He's stupid he was just some guy who could make funny sounds with his mouth now he's going to make funny sounds when he's sucking penis in the hood. You can take the monkey out of the jungle but you can't take the jungle out of the monkey
>He took the money he needed to invest in other projects and put it into a fan fiction.
Wasn't it intended to go on his channel? He probably thought he would recoup the cost, realized it was a bit too spicy for his brand, and ate the loss. You could say he should have realized this earlier, but honestly if this wasn't intended for the public I really do think it would be spicier. And I think the guy will be fine. Not drop-50k-on-an-AMV fine, but fine.
That's not the way YouTube works, babe don't just throw money and everything like they used to, his channel was already suffering and he was already not getting very much from it. Now that advertisers are going to pull, plus if he gets any money from patreon or other sources those are going to disappear as well. He's dead in the water holding on to his penis crying over the fact that a cartoon devil screwed him over
>Now that advertisers are going to pull
They are?
>plus if he gets any money from patreon or other sources those are going to disappear as well
They are?
Why? I mean, this all could have been happening anyway, but why over this? That's kind of a rhetorical question but if you have something to factually back it up I'd be interested.
Dude it's already started
Elaborate. Show your work.
proof?
Coom is a disease as old as time.
Money well spent.
Cinemaphile seetheing
Viv foreverially Blown the frick out.
Hazbin gays anally devastated
The guy is now more famous than ever.
And he even got a fap out of it.
Couldn't have gone any better, really.
Would you even watch Puppet Beatbox Battle?
It's the perfect wienertail of letting e-fame get to your head, being beyond down bad for a fictional character, and not knowing how to properly finance after coming into a lot of money.
Who the frick made this lmao, also charlie is like 6:3 canonically.
>charlie
>not loona
he's got shit taste, not gonna lie
>white trash STD dog versus
>perfect aryan princess
Nah he’s a based urkelcel
>white trash
i can fix her
>STD
wouldn't everyone in hell have an STD
>dog
this is not an issue
vs.
>the whitest woman in hell
clearly the only way to resolve this fight would be to pay $50k to a person above the age of 18 to animate an oiled up wrestling match between these two characters. then we would know who is superior
Believe bro it’s not worth it a lot of them are single moms alcoholic and will abuse and gaslight you, sorry for the blogpost
if they would let me put them in a chokehold during sex, it's worth it
true, but if we're talking characters from these shit show(s), loona is the better of them
>true, but if we're talking characters from these shit show(s), loona is the better of them
Eh. The biggest part of her appeal I can see is being a goth furry. I'm not as into goths anymore and furries are nothing especially good or bad. She's also a b***h, and not just in the literal sense. I don't really like her and prefer Charlie.
Ok you can check your local trailer park or methadone clinic buts it’s your funereal bro.
>clearly the only way to resolve this fight would be to pay $50k to a person above the age of 18 to animate an oiled up wrestling match between these two characters. then we would know who is superior
I like your way of thinking
>urkelce
heh I am using that
Loona is overrated.
The only skill in life he had was making funny sounds with his mouth the computer can do that better. Get views with his reputation , basically he was a brand, now that brand is dead. It's the problem with celebrities . Fundamentally their brand so if they're brand tanks that's the end of them. Doesn't really have any other skills, he's going to either end up wearing a paper hat or jail or digging out of the trash can. He also is renting doesn't own and is a very expensive part. He needs the money that's why he was so desperate
Undercover Brother was right yet again:
One would think that with that amount of moolah,
you'd be able to find a better animator
Everything that happened was through his discord. The guy lived on it it was about as in touch with reality as you can be in one of those places. At the end of the day he was a dummy who had a skill of making noises from his mouth. He created a fan base and got animators on board and a lot of them were on his discord. And then he pissed off some transgender people and basically screwed himself by throwing his supporters money into a fetish. The guy is dead his channel was losing views and he was stupid. One thing I know about transgender people is there very good at getting revenge love them or hate them they know what they're doing. This guy was talking to underage kids had them do his animations and is now sitting there on a hill of crap is supporters are pissed that he used the money on this fanfiction, now next thing is going to be all the groomer stuff and he's going to be called a pedophile it's already happening he's totally screwed. He destroyed himself for want of a demon booty. Not be surprised if he ends up being a sex offender because it looks like that's going to be the next step
it's the circle of being a homie!
I think you're trying to manufacture a lolcow. I think the greatest consequences of this have already happened. If anything people are showing up to old videos memeing about this and driving views and comments up. That's temporary, but I don't think he will be in any worse position over the leak than he was in before. The groomer stuff sounds really forced and you reiterating it sounds like you're one of the people forcing it, because the details behind claiming that aren't even widespread. You'd have to be spreading them yourself.
Yeah the guy is really autistic but doesn't seem cancel worthy at all. Wouldn't be surprised if she carries on as usual and people forget, or best case scenario he becomes kind of a meme and surfs on it.
Already a meme, laddie.
He's a Tate Stan, and paid a underage minor to make the video. Those two are cancellable by themselves. Not to mention, he scammed his audience out of the money that was supposed to go to more beat box battles and is also at the very least transphobic. He's also having a bit of a breakdown right, especially considering it's around his fricking birthday as well.
I feel like lolcow is a stretch. Lolcows require 2 core elements:
>cringy/autistic/mentally ill antics
>An inability to walk away or go radio silent
A manufactured lolcow involves part 2 being "filled in" by people relentlessly fricking with them and deteriorating their mental state by using their dox to psychologically hold them hostage, calling their workplace/friends/family, deliberately trapping them in their own situation by bringing online shit into their personal life.
Whether or not he's cancelled is irrelevant to lolcowdom, that depends on his antics after this happens. As to whether or not he's cancelled, let's be honest, we don't decide that because we're not his demographic, but he's courted enough controversy that his demographic seemingly wants him gone
>but he's courted enough controversy that his demographic seemingly wants him gone
I'm not really seeing that. I see people claiming that's happening, but I don't actually see that happening. The dude comes across as harmless, if kind of cringe, but you didn't need a softcore AMV to leak to kind of get that the 40 year old creator of a cartoon beatbox battle channel is kind of cringe. Anyone who consumes his content and would cancel him over this lacks self-awareness. Which is possible, but I'm not seeing it.
He's 40? What the hell I thought we was like 30 max.
By that definition most lolcows are manufactured. (which i agree with, lolcow culture should die).
lolcow obsessives (aka k*wifarm gays) should be bullied and harassed off the net themselves.
Kiwifarms is full of genuine subhumans who actively make the internet worse.
>One thing I know about transgender people is there very good at getting revenge love them or hate them they know what they're doing.
>Sterilized yourself
>Gonna an hero in your 30-40s
They're nihilists.
I thought it was pretty well done, obviously grossly overpaid though, might have been able to hire a studio. But wouldn't say it was bad animation.
I cant go past 30 seconds of this cringe.
the show isn't even out yet and it is already delivering the shitshow.
So fricking ridiculous and moronic it almost wraps around to being based.
Speaking of HH fan stuff, tylatheOfficial (who is basically Hazbin Hotel/Helluva Boss fandom's Chris-Chan) got nuked recently.
Why?
So was he overpaying that much for the animation in his beatbox videos? Or was he animating those solo?
Surely he knows the going rate for this kinda work
I have heard both but I honestly think he just pays people in the end. He’s also a creative and creatives tend to pay each other more than non-creatives because they know the work behind the craft.
I can assure you most anons on Cinemaphile won't get this reference.
I wonder what Fartman is up to these days.
Probably thankful he didn't waste that much money to make his waifus do the funny tuba sound and rotten egg stink.
Pits funny hearing some of you homosexuals "he could have comissioned porn or get a hooker".
He wanted something tasteful with ending with a blackout screen when youre supossed to imagine what happens next. Are your brains so fricked up you need a straight up 5min zone style sex scene animated?
>UHHHHH DUMPING $50k ON A SELF INSERT WAIFU ANIMATION IS BASED ACTUALLY
If he had taken that $50k and invested it wisely he could have established his own independent animation studio and made a successful series where his ideal self (insert) has a romance with his ideal partner just like Vivziepop did and have people crawl out of the woodwork to draw them fricking FOR FREE. Not that I expect Cinemaphileomers to know how to invest and spend meaningfully and plan things in the long term.
The slight self-destruction aspect is part of what makes it based.
It'd be based if he was a mega rich gay just pissing away money. Like that Saudi prince who commissioned all that pigfricker art of that viking girl.
i dont remember it being a saudi prince
>where his ideal self (insert) has a romance with his ideal partner just like Vivziepop did
Wait are you saying vaggie is her self insert?
UNG stock is super low right now and finally coming back up. He could have bought the dip when it was 4 bucks a pop and already made a profit. Shame.
Yeah but keep in mind he's black, black men get the short end of the stick in porn fanart. It's not like everyone is too racist to draw or commission black dudes on white chicks and there's always some Korean who'll hyperfixate on the pairing and draw fanart faster than chuds can edit it but in average he wouldn't be able to look his show up on Rule34 without most of the pages showing him getting NTR'd.
I'm sure there's gonna be some spite-art of him being cucked regardless after this fiasco.
50k is nothing, a studio would be much more expensive than this.
Unless you meant, using it to make like a pilot or vertical slice, to pitch to Netflix or another service? Then the funding comes from outside instead of those lowly 50k.
Charlie is now a snowbunny. Verbalase has forever changed Charlie's image because of the commission AMV.
It might as well be canon.
Good. All the more of a piss on Vaggie as well.
Is that worse than being a rapist.. which she also is in this AMV?
is there a character with the same fate? I can only think in ember mclain being always related with a killer troon
Most of Goodbye volcano high, even if it was for the better
>Verbalase has forever changed Charlie's image.
Viv did it last month when confirming Alastor was black
>The cannibal who uses forbidden voodoo magic is now a black man
The jokes write themselves at this point.
I was just about to say, it's always hilarious when people try to do cheap inclusion in media and end up making something stereotypical, if not outright racist.
Ah yes, the infamous “black guy eats people and uses magic” stereotype. It’s right up there with the “white people eat raw fish and know the songs of the sirens” and “Asians know the ancient language of the Illuminati” stereotypes. In what fricking world is a black cannibal using forbidden magic a stereotype. You sound moronic.
witch-doctors
There’s barely even a connecting thread there other than magic and skin color. If he was portrayed as a fricking back alley magician grinding herbs and rat bones together then maybe I’d see it.
>uhhh you see they’re…BLACK and…use MAGIC!!
You guys sound like those twittertards who get upset at anything dark skinned doing something moderately bad in an animation or show. Literal horseshoe theory.
Spear chuckers anon. Cmon
Voodoo? Witch doctors? Are you fricking moronic Anon? Who do you voodoo b***h?
Honestly I’m more upset that Alastor is basically just a complete rip off of the dude from Princess and the Frog.
Why would a white guy be a voodoo cannibal?
If fanart is canon now. Does that mean all my art of me and my waifu is canon now? Holy shit
Not until you become a meme.
Does anyone have the ballin edit I heard about?
I'm not disappointed he spent 50k on his waifu.
I'm disappointed his waifu was someone so bland
clussy is clussy, my man..
Relevant, and no it’s not a mirror to the AMV:
>It's a team of people
The cost makes way more sense now
not so much for the quality tho
Saw this on my instagram feed. Even normies are becoming aware of this fiasco. Lmfao
This has been trending on twitter for three days now.
>homie grooms 15yo to do porn vid for him
>get away with it because he's, in fact, a homie
homie.
Unironically why does it matter if a 15 year old animated this? I dont get the outrage behind this
They want to destroy him so bringing up the age of the animator frequently makes it easier to paint him as a groomer. It's not even true.
Not a 15 yr old, a team of Disney ex-animators
Wish I could see the look on those homosexuals faces as they made something for a Black person to get off to, makes sense why they charged him so much now though
Don't be a hyper moron. It's not grooming.
A) suppose it weren't a team (a stupid notion in and of itself) he's paying an expert for a product
B) This is M at best. There's no explicit sex
C) The request had nothing to do with affecting the animator's sexual proclivity or activity and everything to do with beatboxnig getting a video
D) There no evidence they were underaged which means there's little chance that he'd know either. It's a last minute knife twist that people are running with so they can go at him without hesitation.
The word 'groom' in this context means prepared or conditioned for a role or purpose. Not even the least charitable interpretations can spin his actions as predatory towards the animator. Like it literally does not make sense. Also what parent would observe 47 thousand dollars get deposited into their ward's account and not ask questions? It's clearly a young adult at worst.
Okay but why did the "15 year old" agree to it? There's no proof that he was forced to do this.
>homie grooms 15yo to do porn vid for him
literally didn't happen, you guys have zero reading comprehension.
Hate the homosexualy terms from people talking about this, "softcore" "SA's". I've seen more erotic/rapey shit from mainstream music videos, hell even old kids cartoons. This shit was milquetoast as frick
Because zoomers are sheltered easily triggered weaklings that get offended at the drop of a hat. You wouldve thought the pandemic wouldve toughened them up and put some hair on their chest but nope
>Because millennials and zoomers
FTFY.
To think he could've gotten the actual experience with several high-class prostitutes cosplaying Charlie or a bunch of high quality porn/comic commissions with less of that money.
My dream is to get a bunch of cash and go full hunter biden and get a bunch of high class hookers to dress as various waifus of mine and then frick them raw while high on coke
Because the kid had a thermal detonator.
You made me Audiably kek and now my dad is asking why im laughing, well done anon
Can someone explain why the twitter trannies are talking about angel getting raped. Did the sequence leak? The episode? Why are they insisting it was triggering and horribly graphic?
I wonder how the people who produced this felt about bringing to life the rape fantasy of some black middle aged dude.
was it a "bread is bread" situation?
Animators are no different from us. They probably loved working on it, whether by genuineness or the sheer brazenness of the idea. Whoever these Disney animators are, they only have their public image because Disney is “for kids”
>still dont know where to watch the early preview
I miss the days I could just hit up a torrent site and get all my shit (or IRC channel if we go back further)
A few years of streaming and now I'm fricking lost of where to get this stuff
At least it isn't AI
Insane how the facts are already lost in a sea of screeching twitter teenagers already, after less than 24 hours
https://twitter.com/Kartzmark/status/1746268689257685238
Oh no no no :o)
https://twitter.com/thestartofluck/status/1745763434350707027
GREAT, a essay about a softporn AMV, can this timeline get any better
This is the same guy that put the whole grooming thing to bed, so if he makes a video, yes, best timeline indeed.
Meh, he had the decency of clearing up that the grooming rumor was fake, but he's still the guy who went off about how this Black person is against trannies
Steals money from other people, to do fetish video. Hires team with underage kids talks to underage kids. Probably has cheese pizza on computer. 40-year-old wacko but guys he's really nice. Literally make some sounds out of his mouth literally there's only living skill. Sorry to say this but call a spade a spade. For some reason people defend him because he dislikes transgender, he took $50,000 from people to make his fetish real
>made-up schizo ramblings
Steals money can we agree on that .
You have yet to say a single credible thing. Why should anyone believe you?
There's literally discord screenshots, of him taking the money and blowing it on this video stop pretending that didn't happen
You want to defend the guy really.
That proves he spent money (we already knew this), but now you're saying he stole it?
People gave him the money to use on his stupid rap videos, took said money and put it in his fetish video.
You know this how?
Literally the post above you explain it. You are a dense person, he's a 40-year-old creepy Cwc you're no different than the guys who pay Cwc for feet pics because you want to support the guy
You're saying he stole money, which is a lot different from his output slowing. You really want to make this a thing, but you don't really have a leg to stand on. No, the guy being "creepy" doesn't mean I'll just take your word he's a groomer or a thief. Take your moral crusading back to twitter where you belong.
I still haven't gotten why you guys are defending him . What do you think you're going to get out of this. You're saying he's innocent and a good person. He is a scumbag who made sounds with his mouth literally that's it. He's not interesting it's not special he just a guy who made a bunch of noise and hired some animators to make some cartoons. That's it and he got popular with some kids which he groomed on discord. I don't know why you're defending him and why you're so desperate to defend him you can't even admit he took money and used it for his stupid fetish. 40 years old man and you're defending him like he's some 13-year-old kid who made a mistake. He's older than you and me and most of the people on here. Stop acting like the guy a little kid and needs to be protected. He screwed himself and he's now paying for it. To quote a phrase I've heard if you love them so much will you let him move into your house when he's broke
>I still haven't gotten why you guys are defending him
I could say the same about your moral crusade. I'm just not biting the bullshit. You're the one taking the effort to try forcefeeding it. I was laughing alongside everyone else when it was just about the video, but don't start posting blatant bullshit and expect me to just believe it like you blind twittards.
Something bad about him, I dare you.
>You're saying he's innocent and a good person
Everyone is innocent until proven guilty. That's the minimum amount of decency anyone deserves. You're an actual child
Shit blm supporter
What?
>"You like waffles? Why do you hate pancakes?"
>Steals money from other people, to do fetish video
Not ILLEGAL...Per say, but not moral either
>Hires team with underage kids talks to underage kids.
LITERAL DEFAMATION, sparced by troons trying to defame a guy, because He went against their shitty cult
>Probably has cheese pizza on computer
Projection
You are getting desperate, here he is literally begging for money https://youtu.be/k1l_3leCKhw?si=YLK1ZuYSerbUAS6Q
What? I am saying that He didn't stole money, but I never mentioned how he didn't frick himself monetarily
Let me put it to you simple, people pay me to make something I take the money that people paid me and I put it into my fetish. Now I have no more money to make the stuff that I agreed to make. He broke his contract / agreement end of story
Going by patreon moronic politics, He isn't stealing, as much as I find it moronic, it isn't illegal, and this isn't the first time someone didn't delivered (just see like the thousand furgay scam porn games)
So you're telling me he's a scammer. And yet you're still defending him
Wut? I am just pointing out the lies, I would be fricking pissed if some Black person went, said some promises, and then spent it all in fricking soft-porn
He technically Miss allocated funds. He is a scammer scumbag. Yeah you're still trying to defend the guy on technicalities. And yeah you still have not explained why you are defending him.
Thank god someone's making a 2 hour video essay about this that'll be released in 3 months instead of writing two, MAYBE three sentences about how any of this happened
talk about making a mountain over a molehill.
feels mean spirited even. he made a terrible financial decision and said some politically incorrect remarks, so what?
this shit is not even funny enough to last more than a couple of days in public consciousness.
morons on Twitter like to make everything about them.
Shit is funny but I bet any autist with 50k to blow would spend it on a self insert waifu thrist trap video.
Money came from his patreon, he took other people's money that it was supposed to spend on his videos and spent it on his fetish stop pretending that did not happen
You are not obligated to spend patreon money on your projects, it doesn’t work like that.
Insisting that he stole the 50k to commission the animation literally didn’t come up UNTIL the air was cleared about him ( not ) commissioning a minor.
Fricking touch grass, you mouthbreather.
stop defending the guy I know that he probably sent you here to defend him. The guy is a 40-year-old wacko stop pretending he's not too much has come out. Screwed over his supporters, I don't know why you're defending him except maybe out of a duty that you got a boner from the video
Can I get this shit without the twittard pearl clutching?
Jesus Christ it's been an hour and everyone's back to arguing about whether or not the thing that didn't happen constitutes "grooming"
Am I being fricking gaslit
i hope he gets taken to civil court
There we go was not so hard so you agree that he's a thief , steals and commits crime. Lust after white women , so let's make fun of him
I wanna watch it out of curiosity, but I can't handle Second-Hand Embarrassment.
It's cringe, but not that cringe. He had the self-awareness not to put it out there, even if that didn't save him from having it made in the first place.
Cool it with the racism.
I need you to cool with the antisemitism
What did I say that was antisemetic?
You know what you did
Please don't tell the police
Police? Nah. You're just going to fall into a tunnel one day.
Don't send me with Pennywise
I wonder why African tribes are always the first ones turn to cannibalism for food. Surely there was birds or berries they could eat, right?
>I wonder why African tribes are always the first ones turn to cannibalism for food. Surely there was birds or berries they could eat, right?
They were literally getting out competed by fricking elephants until settlers came along and helped them deal with this problem. Thats why, this isn't even a fricking joke.
If that's true, then how come they were able to survive just fine during pre-history and Egyptian times?
Because what I said has nothing to do what you just said.
Not him but the subsaharan desert.
Ironically, the thing that isolated them from the rest of the world was what kept them from being entirely annihilated by everyone else.
By resorting to things like cannibalism and moving around a lot. The elephants keep following them though apparently, which is funny as hell.
Someday there will be a Hazbin Hotel iceberg, and the 50k video will be around the middle. Calling it.
What a time to be alive
He's begging for money because he took the money to make a fetish animation. No one is disagreeing with this, he is a scumbag and a scammer no one is disagree with this. So why are you defending him. Because he dislikes trannies? A lot of people dislike troony's do you defend every person who just likes Chinese he does a bad thing because that's most people in human history
What? Did you had a stroke?
The guy scammed his patreon supporters, now he has to make his stuff with puppets . Spends 20 minutes begging for money https://youtu.be/k1l_3leCKhw?si=YLK1ZuYSerbUAS6Q what the hell are we arguing about
All this thread shows me is that hazbin is trying real fricking hard to outdo ponies and sonic as the most autistic fandom
Okay, so you agree with me that he is a scammer, and scumbag. So if we agree then why are you complaining about being accused of defending him
Keep having your stroke esl.
You just deleted your posts, again do you agree or disagree with the fact he's a scumbag scammer
>he is an esl and a newbie
okay the mod deleted your post, whatever but you're refusing to answer my question which is very simple. Therefore your defending him
Just shut up
I don't know why you are so in love with a 40 year old man but whatever floats your boat.
Keep whining.
He isn't me, esl.