>5'4, 110 pounds
>Multiple 6'5 thugs twice her size
What movies show women trying to take on men accurately?
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>Multiple 6'5 thugs twice her size
What movies show women trying to take on men accurately?
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The Accused.
>human male fights 10+ enemies at the same time and wins
Why are action movies not realistic?
that's a good question, Hollywood needs to get real with the violence. Everybody can now watch real fights and shootings and compare.
The prison fight in The Punisher comes to mind.
Do they mob him and stamp on his head like they would in reality? No, they politely line up to fight him one at a time.
>No, they politely line up to fight him one at a time.
That shit ruins my suspension of desbelief everytime I see it happen in action movies. There are so few action movies that dont do this shit.
BvS comes to mind
i know right,it's so cringe seeing all the other dudes swinging their weapons and doing grimaces while waiting their turn to attack the protag
Reacher actually had a really believable orison fight, glad I finally binged that one,
I actually agree with this line of thinking, if people dont criticize ip man fighting 10 black belts at once, they shouldnt criticize black widow doing her leg head wrap takedown thing on a 300 pound cyber man.
kung fu stuff being over the top is part of the charm
superheroes are designed to be over the top
checked btw
Problem a lot of the time is that the choreo in a lot of western shit doesn't sell the impact as well. At the end of the day it's more about how many people can you sell this premise to as opposed to how "realistic" a scenario is.
Black Widow canonically is some deadly assassin killer b***h. I don't think that's a good example.
I watched Station 11 and the main character girl killed like 15 armed gunmen with a knife. That really sucked a big one.
Maybe the rationale is that there is some some fraction of truth that
>hey maybe if the stars and planets aligned he could actually do this shit
but then with the women its like physically impossible just based on weight alone
I mean Ip Man couldn't even hold a candle to Mike Tyson in the third movie, he "won" by not getting wrecked by the 3 minute mark.
People always asked Bruce Lee if he would win against Muhammad Ali. He holds up a fist and says "Look at that hand. That's a little Chinese hand. He would kill me." Skill counts, technique counts. But it doesn't beat physics.
No matter how many times people break this down for me I just can't help but thing if Bruce just dodged and went for the head.. like your weight class doesn't make your head more defended.
Ali had a 78 inch reach and was skilled at using it. Bruce would have a lot of ground to cover to get into striking distance while Ali could jab him up from out of his reach. That fighting style can work, but it's guys like Tyson who can do it to elite heavyweights, not guys Bruce's size.
Your weight class literally does make your chin better defended because the distance big guys can punch at is further than it is for small guys.
>like your weight class doesn't make your head more defended.
no but it makes the other guy smaller. theres a reason heavyweight divisions always have more knockouts and the manlets just stand there punching each other for 3 hours
Ali has a huge reach advantage and hits hard enough where a punch to basically anywhere puts Bruce in the hospital. Bruce with boxing gloves on wouldn't even generate enough force to even slightly hurt Ali. You're delusional.
Have you ever heard of a kick? Its these things you do with your legs.
> muh kicks
You realize that kicks are extremely risky especially against people that are much bigger than you? If Bruce can kick Ali, then Ali is in range to punch or grab Bruce and instantly end the fight. There's a reason your magical kung fu morons get annihilated in actual fighting.
All I'm saying is that in my mind it's entirely in the realm of possibility and that's why I've never been able to get behind the "Ali would kick Bruce's ass" truism.
It comes down to
>Can Bruce Lee dodge long enough to find an opening and land a head kick
Most of the time yeah, he gets pummeled. But probably not every time. Maybe the odds increase depending on the terrain too. Bruce in the ring with Ali okay he loses 95 of those 100 matches. But on a street with a pocket full of sand Bruce...
Head kicking a man who's 7 inches taller than you and has a famously good chin is a shitty thing to rely on. And you can't dodge indefinitely. It's not a video game. The big guy can learn your timing and start showing you feints and walking you down. Tyson beat taller guys by seizing the initiative and overwhelming them with aggression, which he could do because he was a lightning fast, agile beast with brutal KO power. He had like 70 pounds on Bruce Lee and was still considered a small heavyweight.
Bruce probably would have gone for the knee entry with his Biu Jee hand out aiming for the eyes but also shutting down Ali's strike lines. If he made cBruce. With the knee then he's phon-sao-ing Ali's arms to keep him off base and unable to strike and thus opening up targets on Ali's face and neck. The longer this goes on the less chance Bruce would have had - one good punch sneaks through and Bruce probably would go flying. I mean seattle era Bruce. After the broken back he's a different guy. Seattle Era is the only "fighting" era that matters for bruce.
"If he made contact with Alis knee"
Ali got fricked up in a fight with a Japanese guy who just kept hammering his lower leg with kicks. If Bruce's meme speed is really that insane, I feel like he could do something like that and get out of the way as quickly as he can. That's probably better than going for insane head shots which most MMA guys don't try unless conditions are perfect.
After the knee Bruce might very well have done a flurry of head shots, he adapted Kung Fu chain punches with a different angle but he still did it. The 11-second "karate-man" Fight in Seattle is essentially this.
Its not 1994 anymore. The best fighters in the world need to learn to kick.
Muhammad Ali was one of the greatest boxers of all time. Bruce Lee was a film star. It’s like asking if Brock Lesnar would beat the Rock in a real fight. Of course he would. It wouldn’t even be close
The most dangerous thing you can do after fighting a man who fights professionally, or to a good amateur standard, is fight someone who is solid. Even if he doesn’t know how to fight to rules he’s still going to swing at you, and a swing from an adult man who’s heavy is going to do you damage. It’s potentially fatal even if you are a word champion. If some guy who weighed as much as Tyson Fury and was the same height as him punched him in the back of the head, with no boxing experience of his own, Tyson Fury is going to the morgue
It does to some extent. I've never been involved in any proper combat sport, and a remotely trained man would gas me to death, but I've been attacked by a group of people and had 3 beer bottles broken over my face (which ironically I used to think was a movie meme), hit with a cinder block, and in general been jumped a group of people laying punches into my head, and not actually been knocked out (thank frick)
I'm not recommending anyone attempt it, but being larger and having a thicker heavier skull does offer more protection (then again radiographers have occasionally mentioned that I have a ridiculously thick skull)
TL;DR thicker brain case = more protected brain
>I have a ridiculously thick skull
Same here, and people don't expect head butt to the face.
thats cause lee was a manlet goobah who never learned grapplin. if you imanari rolled on ali and heel hooked him, he'd think you were an alien, then cry
Also gunfights are usually horrifically stupid which gives people dumb ideas like 'you can shoot the gun out of an assailants hand'.
STD has a tiny asian captain fighting off klingons by hand
die hard 1, lethal weapon, bourne trilogy, early seagal films
>die hard 1, lethal weapon, bourne trilogy, early seagal films
lol yes.. those are very realistic films hahah
collateral
Those are ridiculous, but fighting multiple opponents is possible in real life. Not ten, but 3 maybe 4 is doable. You have to be the aggressor and hope that one or two of them have no interest in fighting. If you can knock out the first one or two extremely quickly it will make the others hesitant and give you a window to leave. I would never want to fight multiple opponents though, way too dangerous. If 3 men attacked you simultaneously with no hesitation then even a highly trained fighter would have almost no chance.
Cool, thanks for posting. That’s a good example of what I was taking about.
There was this dude he hung out with in Cky called "Mike Vallely", and he was the douchiest blowhard I've ever seen.
He was a 5'8" balding manlet who looked like he hit the gym maybe twice a week to do only chest and arms, and he would get super aggro over nothing in order to look like the "tough one" of the crew; which isn't really much of an accomplishment, because the bar isn't set very high in the first place. His accomplishments included scattering 4 timid teenagers by flailing his arms like a windmill, and shoving a middle-aged mall cop away while the security guard was just trying to do his job.
He also had a brief stint as a hockey enforcer, where presumably his appreciation for violence might serve some sort of purpose, but then, to absolutely NO ONE'S surprise, the MOMENT he had to fight someone as strong, or stronger than him, who was equally as fond of violence as he was, he got his shit pushed in regularly. Never won a single fricking hockey fight in his life and was CONSTANTLY getting thrown to the ice.
The guy was the definition of coked up blowhard.
Mike Vallely, ladies and gentlemen. A possible contender for "gaygiest skater in all of existence". Possibly gaygier than even Bam Margera himself.
lmao thats 4 guys who didnt want to fight dealing with a crackhead
litteraly me (when i visit kindergarten)
Commando is the worst offender. Dude walks into a open field surronded by 50 gaurds and they all miss under 50 yards while he mows them down one by one
I just watched all of the A-Team TV show. They stand 20 feet from each other going full auto gunfights, no one ever falls down. It was Glorious!!
Also nobody ever gets tired. Fighting is fricking exhausting and nobody in movies ever breaks a sweat.
Clearly the writers have never been in a fight or talked to someone who has been
After the initial adrenaline is gone you are fricking winded. 2-3 guys TOPS
blacked gangbang videos
>4chud pretending a trans woman wouldnt beat their ass
>Man vs Man
That's just a fair fight.
I hate to link the forbidden site but this has me lolling
https://www.reddit.com/r/truscum/comments/bu4or6/thoughts_on_the_its_maam_video/
ngl, some of you gays are actually scary
nothing a bullet couldn't fix though
Once Were Warriors.
irreversible
I remember my ex-gf challenged me to a wrestling match once and I was kind of fricking with her by letting her win for a while, she straddled me at one point and she was so smug. Kind of annoyed me so I threw her off me and put her into a figure 4. The shock on her face was immense, women don't realize that they're weak as frick. The average man is like 50% bigger than a woman and like 6 inches taller.
They really are a delusional sex.
Even a man and woman at similar heights are made differently. The same thing happened when I wrestled with my husband and he was barely trying to do anything. What should be taught to women is gun safety and how to conceal carry.
Men also have denser muscle and bone tissue. Women do have us on coordination though I'll give you guys that, assuming you're a biological female and not some homosexual or troon
I hate troons and I’m not gay
Based, give your husband some white babies and keep them away from the internet until they're like 16
t. 22
Already have and we’ve talked about internet safety. We grew up with the internet 1.0 (or 2.0 I guess) and that messed us up. It’s even worse today because cellphones are given to kids and teens.
t.37
I consider myself quite lucky, my parents limited my internet access to basically just programming stuff and educational shit. I did manage to get access to youtube through a bug in an app on my ipod though lmfao.
My general advice is, be disciplined, but don't be too strict. My parents being strict made me really cunning and resourceful. Now that I think about that that might be an asset if I get my shit together.
My parents were autistic as frick don't get me wrong, but they did me right in some key areas. One thing I appreciate is that they never let me have sugar unless it was a special occasion and got me used to vegetables. I now have a sugar intolerance because I ate so little of it the bacteria that digest it for you died off in my gut, and the only vegetable I can't stand is brussel sprouts. Those homies be nasty.
Lol true. We know more about computers than our kids but we’ll still have to be ahead of the curve. Discord is cancer.
My parents didn’t want me on the computer all the time, said it was bad for my health but they didn’t know what all was on it. Now things that were hard to find are easily accessible. That’s why we as parents have to guard our kids against this filth.
We also have a decent diet and don’t have too much sugar in the house. Nice to see you’re growing up decently in this current age.
>Discord is cancer.
I will say it can be quite fun as long as it's small and private. I mod minecraft as a hobby and me and my modding buddies just chill there and do random shit all the time and it's quite fun. But yeah if they have a phone I'd monitor them, they'll fricking hate it but it'll be good for them. Just be careful about how you go about it if that makes sense, again strict parents raise cunning kids. Also, if you find they're engaging in normal adolescent behavior with appropriate people, I'd maybe discuss it but try not to shame them. I'm speaking from experience.
>Nice to see you’re growing up decently in this current age.
I wouldn't go that far, I was doing quite well but this last year has kicked my ass and I had to move back in with them :/
No shame in living with your folks for a while as you build up your savings and get back on track.
I've had a lot of health problems both physical and mental that have made it difficult for me to work for long stretches of time.
If you asked me a year ago where I'd be I'd have said I'd have started a career and all that shit. I kind of feel like I'm back to square one, even lost my GF
That sucks but that's life, as the other anon said no shame in taking the time you need to get back on your feet. Good luck bro
Thanks man, I just feel frustrated, I feel like I've lost almost everything
Famisafe is worth every penny
What is that, like an internet site blocker?
https://famisafe.wondershare.com/
breasts or gtfo
>Women do have us on coordination though
The frick you talking about simp?
Women are also worse in coordination, especially in fighting.
It's not their fault, it's just israelite lies they believe. Instead of a father/husband at the head of the household they can rely on, they are the "head" of their own household and rely on the state to take care of them.
Imagine being memed into wanting to join the workforce.
>NOOOOOOOO I HATE MY OFFSPRING I HATE MY HOUSE I HATE MY FAMILY I WANT TO WORK 6 DAYS A WEEK 10 HOURS A DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!
what the actual frick, how on Earth did this psyop work
In communist countries they called women like that married to the state
they don't want to join 'the workforce' they want either cozy community-minded jobs like vet, florist or fabric store employee, or power jobs that give them access to rich, high-status men.
it's incredibly rare to see a woman trucker, dozer operator or garbage lady. The only 'hard' job you can find women in is welding, because unlike what welders bullshit about it's 90 percent careful hand-eye coordination while standing or sitting down.
I weigh like 120lbs more than my wife and can still out run her
Guys as kids and teenagers do all kinds of physical shit like wrestling with your bros while women just sat on their assets gossiping
What movies show women trying to take on men inaccurately, is the real question?
Most? Anything with a non-superpowered woman taking on a man hand-to-hand, shit like Black Widow or the new Charlie's Angels, even heavily trained women are usually not strong enough to take on the average man, much less men who are similarly trained.
the accountant
What's unrealistic about this? She grew up with 7 older brothers.
Atomic blonde does girl v guy pretty good. She gets tossed around quiet a bit.
Worst example of this is Hobbs and Shaw where the skinny blonde chick takes the Rock down with a flying armbar or whatever its called
Doesn't he basically wave her around with one arm every time he gets serious with her in that movie?
>waah the world isn't playing into my muscular women that look like men fantasy
The Mick had one man fight an entire women’s soccer team. Not a great show but that scene was kind of funny
I know this is a gag but in real life women who do any kind of sport think they're hard as frick. It's bizarre.
true, but women who do bjj will actually frick you up, there is no shortage of videos of guys getting rnc'd by some blue belt thinner-side-volleyball-build woman in at a party or field somewhere
Yeah you mean lanky morons who don't actually want to fight back against a girl
cope
never argued training vs training. im arguing a trained woman vs an untrained man is an easy win for the woman. a blue belt woman can wrestle you to the ground and choke you so much easier than you think lol
No it isn't cope you stupid ass fat motherfricker
>im arguing a trained woman vs an untrained man is an easy win for the woman.
It’s not.
>a blue belt woman can wrestle you to the ground and choke you so much easier than you think lol
No, she can’t. Listen, I’m a professional retired fighter and now I train boys and girls how to fight. It’s literally my job. Your way of thinking is dangerous. I hope you don’t have a daughter because you’re going to get her seriously injured. Fighting isn’t a game and should never be done outside of a professional, controlled setting. There are weight classes for a reason and men don’t fight women for a reason. I don’t know what it is about Western people who take BJJ, but you guys are so delusional it’s hard to believe. Just because some girl triangle choked you while you were rolling in class doesn’t mean she could beat a 200lb man in the street.
This. I was a red belt in Tae Kwon Do and I once fought a white belt a foot taller than me who weighed a lot more than I did and it was the hardest fight of my life, especially when we did ground shit. I was lucky I was so flexible at the time, managed to get out of a headlock pin and get a figure four
or a 110lb man that walks up behind her and cold-wieners her while she's buying a coffee.
I think BJJ is great for exercise, self-improvement self defense if you routinely interact with aggro junkies but people seem to have this idea their BJJ skills counteract a baseball bat or a knife.
BJJ is fantastic and almost a must if you plan on fighting professionally in MMA. However, outside of the ring it’s very risky to use in the streets. It’s not that it doesn’t work, it does, especially one on one, it’s just risky to be on the ground. That guy you’ve just mounted in the parking lot of a bar probably has a friend who is about to soccer kick you into a coma. You should never street fight, but if it’s unavoidable you at least want to be on your feet. Makes it easier to defend against multiple opponents and escape if the opportunity arises.
>bar probably has a friend who is about to soccer kick you into a coma
Bar fights should be striking only and if someone is going to try to wrestle or use BJJ then soccer kicks from friends are fair play.
That the problem with bar fights, everyone has there own set of rules which means that there really aren’t any rules. I’ve seen too many end with the guy who is losing pulling out a gun and killing the other guy. There is really no point in bar fighting, you have nothing to gain and everything to lose.
literally wrong, do i have to compile every fricking tape of a woman choking a guy out at a party who thinks they can easily manhandle her? i literally see these guys walk into my gym every day and get choked out. I hope you have a son who challenges a blue belt girl and ends up omaplata'd on youtube
weight classes in TRAINED fighting exist for a reason, men cant fight women in TRAINED settings. A trained and fit woman can absolutely handle herself against an untrained man. your way of thinking leads to guys thinking they could take amanda nunez lol
>your way of thinking leads to guys thinking they could take amanda nunez
Tons of guys, including untrained guys, would frick Amanda Nunes up and she has admitted as much.
she admitted TRAINED guys would frick her up, nunez could outgrapple the average guy with no training EASILY provided the weight difference wasnt too insane, of course she isnt double legging joeysworldtour
lol do you guys think you are all wrestlers and bjj fighters or something? have you ever even done a single sprawl in your entire lives? fricking christ the confidence of a typical internet warrior is so funny to me
You're the fighting equivalent of a FUD
im the fighting equivalent of albert einstein combined with masukazu imanari, pussy
We aren’t talking about college parties here or some dumb bullshit. If you seriously believe that a “trained” woman (even a UFC) fighter is going to win a street fight against some meathead who digs ditches all day you’re sadly mistaken
Any man, aside from real fatasses, who weighs over 200lbs is going to have more power and danger behind him than a woman regardless of who she is. If you put it up to above average men you’re getting into instant fatality territory. A 230lb, 6’0 or so very solid guy who does something physical for a living is going to annihilate men who train MMA and boxing, never mind women, if he gets a hit in on them
This, even strong fit men occasionally die in freak one punch accidents from getting their fricking skull rocked. The average woman's skull is made of paper compared to even a strawmanlet. To put it into context, I accidentally fractured a woman's skull in 3 places when she was having a complete chimpout at me, just by placing my hand on her face and essentially gently moving her
It's also why after that, I will (almost) never hit a woman, they're genuinely scarily fragile.
I have to wonder if "trained" professional fighters in regulated sports like boxing or MMA will be able to do the needful and fight dirty or if they'll automatically fight fair. I practice stuff like throat punches, eye gouging, etc. I don't fight to put on a show. If somebody comes after me, I want to end it as quickly as possible.
They break the rules as often as they can get away with it, lol. You sound like every krav maga moron who will never back up any of the shit he talks
krav maga is for women and mall ninjas
and internet tough guys
You should lose weight. I can hear your thick sausage fingers ponderously pecking out your autistic rantings.
>I hope you have a son
I do and he is about to go pro. I’m a coach for a top 5 lightweight who lives near us in California and my son routinely beats the brakes off him in sparring. There isn’t a woman on earth who could beat my son.
Top 5 in what rankings?
I don’t want to dox us. The guy I’m a coach for isn’t top 5 in UFC, but he has fought in the UFC before. My son is an absolute monster because has been professionally trained since birth. You’ll be seeing him on tv in a few years. Almost certainly in the 135 division. It depends on how his body fills out.
>Multiple thugs twice her size
She could take them all but not in a fiat fight if you catch my drift.
Freak fantasies about his "son" filling" out
Frick off groomer.
>She could take them all but not in a fiat fight if you catch my drift.
beat me to it. She could finish them both off at the same time if you know what I mean.
>Bear me to it
Not unlike she beat them but not up more like down onto her face
Yeah the 30th person to make that joke is the one that beat you to it.
that's mostly because of cardio. the videos you see with women beating men is usually with a guy who is already gassed to shit
>but women who do bjj will actually frick you up
No, they won’t. They might arm bar some drunk idiot who isn’t even taking it seriously, but a trained man destroys a trained women everyday of the week. There is a reason men don’t fight women in boxing/MMA.
Hot. What does that have to do with street fighting?
>a trained man destroys a trained women everyday of the week.
but an untrained man loses to a trained woman
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/d9prv1_fCac
thats you
They're both men
>but women who do bjj will actually frick you up
I've seen fat white belts simply overpower female black belts with 10 years experience. Most submissions don't work when there's a massive strength difference. I'd bet female UFC champs would lose to average same size males with a few months of cardio and light training. It's honestly incredible how weak women are. Male children break female lifting records every single day.
>male children lift
Our gym allows kids 12 and up in the weight room. The two kids there were lifting but they looked younger than 12. One was spotting the other in the weight rack, and I was worried for them. I guess they’re ok. I don’t want them to get injured.
The amount of times I've had a male friend that has trained BJJ for years basically try to show off in an admitedly "friendly" spar get literally manhandled by me with a "mere" 20kg weight difference. BJJ is ridiculously susceptible to a stronger opponent just picking you up and in the real world (or any non BJJ rules) smashing your head on the mat. I've never trained a single combat sport in my life and that was the outcome with a large male that's well trained but 20kg smaller.
Imagine the difference with a woman giving up about 40kg and a huge amount in muscle "quality"
go sign up at a jiu jitsu gym, you will get arm barred by some 5 foot korean woman and you will question literally everything about your masculinity
Too bad she would never get the chance to use BJJ in a real fight because we would start on the feet and one punch would finish her.
> being so weak that you can't simply curl out of a 5'0 korean woman's arm bar
>Same woman mogged by any trained man
Nothing personal troon
Evolved Fight - tags [male wins]
are they black?
Hahah what is this
They should have more women fight against each other instead of men. Or some group that has two or three women against one man. Feminist wouldn’t like it but it would be more visually interesting than what we have today. You can appease them by rallying women’s strength in numbers and girl power or whatever
This is the type of thing that always gets me. It's one thing if a woman can fight, but they always seem to be able to take a punch as well as a man.
She looks like the chick from the poodle training video.
tank girl
battlestar galactica
stargate
>battlestar galactica
the boxing ep is precisely when I had enough and stopped watching
The Sopranos, but Milfy fails and secretly wants to nuke Puerto Rico the rest of the show.
The only movies in which it is credible to have a woman beat up a man is when said woman is superpowered or otherwise has a large advantage over the man.
What are you talking about? I’ve seen tons of Japanese and Czech vids where 4’11 women take on multiple 6’0+ guys at once
Billion Dollar Baby
Haywire was reasonable, although Gina is a terrible actress.
> average male punching power is 162% of average female and the least powerful man is still stronger than most powerful female
The science on this is settled.
Unironically Fury Road. Furiosa and the wives vs Max and the bald guy is a good fight scene. Max has to drag around a door and an unconscious guy and Furiosa is vicious and wiley as a fighter, but he overpowers her immediately whenever he actually lays hands on her. Good fight that makes the woman look tough and dangerous without making the man look weak.
This is one of the more realistic examples of a woman bearing men. Surprise strikes with intent, rolling disarms that make use of joint locks. If the lady knows what she’s doing I think this scenario could play out this way in the real world, unlikely, but possible.
lol middle aged white men robbing women in a parking lot. Its such a common Hollywood racist trope people dont even notice how unrealistic it is anymore.
Sicario
Kstew was literally perfect. Goddamnit.
In True Detective Season 2, Miss I Love Big Dicks carries a knife with her at all times because she knows any man can kill her bare handed.
ITT: coping fa/tv/irgins insecure about their masculinity insist that they could beat up women
Do you guys think Mike Tyson puts enough thought into this subject to have hours long arguments about it?
Too easy. Next question.
Footage of KStew overpowering one 6'3 thug twice her size.
any movie where the woman is not actually interacting with the man directly. she would just send a dude or two to deal with her enemies lol. women take on men through psychological and indirect means.
i think pic related is as accurate as you can get physically without breaking the suspension of disbelief, and really all she had was the element of surprise. she gets killed by a teenager lmao.