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>these 100 people in LA and NYC we interviewed support WGA and SAGAFTRA strikes
well, yeah. not like they’d go to some shithole like Texas to interview the local yokels
Texas and the people in it are objectively more valuable than the absolute trash fires that are the current state of New York City or LA, EVEN WITH all the Spics.
It says Americans as in America as a whole, not just Cali/NY.
the average iq of california is 95
If Texas is a shithole why are Californians flocking to it?
Red states are poor so they have a low cost of living. You're basically Spain or the Philippines
>vote for moronic policies
>taxes go through the roof
>illegals and drugs and homeless and crime everywhere
>move to safer place and vote for the same policies
many such cases among the uneducated left.
It's like a really slow flood that will wipe us all out
They are born nation wreckers.
This. Democrats are basically the political equivalent of Locusts.
yes texas and florida are TERRIBLE please stop coming here
I mean, the wording they used (americans that have been surveyed) is clever. But if they only poll some LA homosexuals then thats not really an indication of the general feelings of all americans.
Lots of local yokels seething in repsonse to this.
>troll says something blatantly moronic on purpose
>anons respond shitting on the troll
>"woooahhh really triggered da chuds wit dis one!"
Every time
>67% of the Americans don’t watch movies.
moron
I live in NYC and walked by one that's exactly what they do.
I know, right? Why aren’t they rooting for execs like Kathleen Kennedy?
i support the suffering of anyone involved in that system
This. Strike puts writers out of home and roof, Strike gives suits bad press and headaches about progressing projects. It's a win-win.
Correct. Having all the creatives become homeless and all the executives become bankrupt is the best outcome for most people.
>creatives
OP got BTFO again
Why aren't they?
I support them just because it keeps anything new from being made, and only hurts everyone involved. 🙂
I support them because I want Hollywood to fail
This guy gets it
I support the strikes because I see it possibly killing disney and paramount.
>Writers cant spell contraCts
>contr-ACK
Sample size was 2 out of 3 randos they spoke to in front of the strikers.
>people saying they don't support the writers
why would you support the suits?
Why would you support the writers?
because they're hurting the suits?
And the suits are hurting the workers. I'm still not seeing a reason to pick one over the other.
Which is the lesser of the two evils?
neither
Because they’re workers.
So? Anybody who has a job is a "worker".
The "suits" you cry about are "workers" too.
What a pointless, subjective set of imaginary "rules" you project onto a reality and expect other people to understand.
Management are not workers, as they dont do any work
Then sitting at a desk for 4 days out of the week, 6 months out of the year, with 12 other morons and spitballing ideas on how to turn another beloved white male superhero black, gay or a woman isn't "work" either, moron.
No its not, neither is management
Okay, then none of them deserve """fair wages""". Therefore I do not support the writers. Glad we agree.
writing a script is undeniably work. what does you being butthurt about casting have to do with writing being or not being work?
>writing a script is undeniably work.
So is "Management". In fact most managers I have known or worked with x10 times harder than the amount of work involved with "writing a script".
It's really weird how you just keep interjecting your irrational, uninformed opinions in the same place people are using facts and logic and actual arguments and expecting them to be treated the same.
>So is "Management".
no it isn't. it's management. managers don't do anything, they're just a buffer between the people who produce and the people who reap the benefits. it's arbitrary busywork.
Its not just that its also a form of workforce controll, as in giving people shit and fiering them etc
>giving people shit and fiering them etc
yes, that's what i mean by "buffer"
>managers don't do anything, they're just a buffer between the people who produce and the people who reap the benefits. it's arbitrary busywork.
Have you informed modern corporations that they are paying people is some total of billions upon billions of dollars a year across the nation for not actually doing work the benefits their company? This is some pretty revolutionary knowledge you've got here. Imagine the profits if corporations cut this apparently "completely useless" echelon of their business model.
Do you want to know how I know that you have never worked a day in your life at an ACTUAL job, zoomy?
>not actually doing work the benefits their company
they are doing something that benefits the company, it's just not "work" in the sense that a "worker" performs "work," it's rather aiding in the extraction of work out of actual productive workers, ie parasitism. you seem rather dumb and you cover it up with verbosity and mock-exasperation. it's a bad look
>It's not "work" because I don't want to call it that...
Your personal opinions really don't matter. If they're getting paid to perform some kind of Labor that their employers have agreed is worth the pay they are asking for, then it is "work". End of story.
they're not generating value, somebody else is, the're middlemen in value extraction. if you can't grasp the conceptual difference the buyer, seller and middleman then you're moronic, sorry.
>they're not generating value
But they are. Or else people wouldn't choose to pay them.
they aren't. capitalists choose to pay them to separate themselves from the workers that generate value, not to generate value. do you actually not understand this or are you playing stupid? if you extract a writer or a cook out of this specific economic arrangement they would still be able to write or cook, except not FOR the bosses anymore, if you extract a manager they would just stand there. what are they going to do, write an email? to whom? call a meeting? they have no productive function.
This. Writers don't create anything of value.
>studio buys book
>can't just transcribe it themselves because union won't allow it
>have to pay some lesbian a fortune to cut/paste
Writing is just rent seeking.
you are being willfully perverse. seek christ
Except managers dont perform any labor, they supervise it
Most of the time they have no idea tf the 'laborers' theyre supervising are even supposed to be doing, as they lack the knowlege and skillsets to even understand the sayd 'labor', they just expect outcomes and push deadlines
I had a friend who did comercial renders for this supermarket marketing firm, the fricking manager refused to understand basic cpu capacity, like ih he told her 'this thing will have to render till tomorrow therefore it cannot be done today' she would just blurt out the same deadlines and throw a fit it was like talking to a bipedal cow
The moment 'management' comes in contact with real production its a complete loss of conection
I remember once we were putting together this construction for a iluminated mega billboard that was supposed to go on top of this office building
There was loads of cutting and drilling and hauling and welding involved
You cant weld when its wet so if it rained or snowed wed do other shit
The management that ordered the thing took notice of our absence and complained about it, they felt we werent taking the project seriously and thought sending someone to give us shit will help, sothey sent the owner of the building to tell us about it
We told him in so many words that perhaps if they sent someone from the office to give us a motivational speech on the sinergetic effects of skill aquisition in dinamic work environments, surely we will become able to weld trough snow
Managers are parasitic scum, and should basicaly be put in workcamps and given a shovel, if only to make for amusing videos
>writing is labour
>reading lines is labour
>supervising is not labour
Fun fact: none of them are labour.
>writing is labour
yes, it produces a film script
>reading lines is labour
yes, it produces movie footage (together with the crew etc)
>supervising is not labour
yes, it produces nothing
This. The real enemy is the DGA. Directors literally do nothing.
This is actually true.
>You're a genius Marty! The dialouge was incredible
>I didn't write it
>The acting was amazing
>I didn't act in it
>The photography was superb
>Thanks...not mine though
Time for the studios to redistribute the DGA royalties to the janitors and actors.
This doesn't mean they don't do work. It just means you've worked under shitty managers.
>nooo dont question the role of the overpaid menagerinooo, nooo menagerinooos do esential corporate stuff for corporations
U srsly sound retaded tho
Proving his point. You've literally never had a job, "management" or otherwise. You are making that transparently obvious.
75% the "white collar " jobs of large corporations is bureaucracy that could be cut but the money they spend on keeping those people employed is less than the stick hit they would take announcing layoffs
Same with screenwriters and actors though. They just dick around while the crew and VFX team do all the actual work.
writing a script is "actual work." you can't be this moronic. what would the crew be doing, exactly, if there was no script and no actors? lighting an empty set?
>writing a script is actual work
You can't be serious? That makes Cinemaphile denizens among the most productive element of global society.
no, the thing you do here is just typing. that's not the same as writing a usable film script.
>It's just typing
Already more labour than 95% of script output
>too lazy to type "erior"
Making Oscar winning kino.
life of pi has actors and a script.
I always kek'd when movieblob would do this.
>ugh actually anyone getting paid to work is working class chuds
Completely invalidates the whole wellspring of their moral superiority.
considering there are people who "get paid," despite never needing to work, ever, the moral superiority remains.
also why do you namedrop ecelebs like anyone cares?
>also why do you namedrop ecelebs like anyone cares?
Because he's the primary reason I'm happy to see writers get fricked.
When your frame of reference is capeshit you do not have a valid opinion
They're not workers. They are the petty bourgeoisie who work on behalf of the capital elite to suppress workers. This is infighting among the 1% and any worker who involves themselves on either side is a class traitor.
The actual workers are the crews— construction, lighting, drivers, catering etc who don’t make as much and depend on productions going for their livelihood. They are getting absolutely fricked. And guess who won’t be there for them when their union contracts are up?
Actors and writers, all above the line professionals (not workers), happily threw actual workers under the bus to offshore work to Canada, India etc. All to scrape a few million more shekels out of the system to pay for cocaine and mansions.
>writers outsourced the work
i didn't realize writers were the executives
They are complicit. They literally did nothing. I only know of one person in Hollywood who refused to allow a production to be moved offshore.
bruh they're employees of the studio. if they take a moral stand over anything, they're just replaced.
>I can't take a moral stand, I need a new pool
So why should anyone else give a shit about their plight.
Because they’re hurting the suits.
>yes, mr shekelstein, i will make sure to mention "mansions" and "cocaine," those goyim are very easy to manipulate through base envy
If Max Landis, a failed writer, can afford both, than there is no way successful writers (who would be the one's demanding fair compensation), can't.
max landis is the son of a millionaire. try again.
>Implying I didn't earn my own money
You try again. He's indicative of the average writer.
His father is John Landis
Perhaps they should learn to code
Writers are a petty-bourgeois element
they're under the studio executives and actually need to do something.
they only have the job because studio executives hired them.
studio executives hired them to write in a specific manner
When a man is too lazy to work and too cowardly to steal, he becomes a writer for television and movies
Because they're making studio israelites seethe
because i or someone i care about could be employed as a writer in the future, whereas no one i know will ever advance into the gigaisraelite billionaire caste
>admitting to being a Temporarily Embarassed Hollywod Writer
it's better than being a temporarily gentile israelite
The writers are just as "israeli" as the CEO's you're crying about.
>we need to help the powerful israelites hurt the less powerful israelites!
for what purpose? that's just consolidation of israeli power. you have no reason to want that.
>we need to help the powerful israelites hurt the less powerful israelites!
Seems more like that's what you're arguing for. If you support the writers gaining power they will become the "more powerful israelites" in that comparison.
Again, why should I support either?
It's becoming progressively more and more obvious that you're a leftist that thinks you can get staunchly far-rightwing people to support your commie movement just by castigating your bourgeois targets as being "israeli".
You didn't answer the question.
Why would you support the investment bankers?
>if you don't support one you MUST support the other
You are supporting the suits by not supporting the writers. You're supporting a quick resolution to the strike by not supporting the writers.
>You're supporting a quick resolution to the strike by not supporting the writers.
How?
if you don't support the writers, you're saying they have no legitimate grievance and should just go back to work.
They don't have a legitimate grievance but I sure as hell don't want them to get back to work.
Therefore you support the writers.
Backward ass reasoning I'd expect from a jeet.
Thinking you can’t/don’t have a side here is backwards. Not supporting the writers because you don’t like them is inane. They were hand picked by the suits.
Except I really don't have a side, I live in Ireland with no tangible claims to the whole fiasco.
>if you don't support the writers, you're saying they have no legitimate grievance
No homosexual we just hate both sides. You can do your autistic "if you don't support one you indirectly support another" reddit bullshit logic in reality we hate both sides directly.
Therefore you support the writers.
No, because I am not brown transexual communist.
Yes, that's how conflicts work. If you want the Eagles to lose, it means you want the Chiefs to win. This strike is about zero-sum issues.
What if you hate football and don't give a shit who wins?
Why would you trust centipedes in your vegana?
because they're more likely there than I think
i’m a writer and i don’t support the writers but i also hate the suits. i’m tired of binary thinking
polcels think them taking home 60-80k a year is a lot while the corporations take home billions in overhead and hollywood accounting. Meanwhile they want to study to be a stemcel and make 100k a year to copy paste booleans. Like it's any different. It's because they work at mcdonalds but are still eternal battered temporary impoverished millionaires. Because capitalism definitely rewards the smartest and hardest working. The average person takes home less than 30k a year but polcels still simp for corpoations. Because they are moronic ayn rand children who wiener ride elon musk daddy and think their NFT will moon and then they will never have to work a day like the plebes. They are so psyopped and fight against their own interests. When they see workers organize against the oligarchs they kvetch and whinge liek little homosexuals and simp for billionaires. It's so sad, how the mind of a right winger functions. IF they could critically think they wouldn't be write wingers though.
Make better stuff, get support. Simple as.
>polcels think them taking home 60-80k a year is a lot while the corporations take home billions in overhead and hollywood accounting
Leftard writers deserve to take home 0$ per year.
>They are so psyopped and fight against their own interests
Leftoids unable to pay rent and food is in my best economic interests.
I hate them both and hope they eat each other alive.
I hate both and want both to suffer.
>Excuse me citizen, TOTALLY non-biased, nonpartisan pole here that we want you to take part in! In the ongoing Writer's Strike, do you support: A. The innocent, glorious, venerable worker that totally deserves more money from those evil, greedy corporations, or B. The evil, greedy, Trump-supporting Corporations >:(
That's how. You can get almost any set of results you want in MOST (not all but most) "Opinion Polls" so long as you have the ability to set the narrative and change the context of the question, as well as exert some form of peer-pressure or social-expectation. In fact, I'm shocked that number is that low, considering how biased media companies and corporations have proved to be in the past decade.
Anon, those corporations are not exactly trump supporting, it fricking holliwood
Yes? That's the point. Do you think that fact matters to people who are lying to your face anyway? They lie in whatever direction will forward their narrative.
>yokels
Kek this is like when CNN does a poll on what they think of something politically and they have 9 liberals and 1 conservative
The Media Elite literally could not have picked a worse time to try and drum up support for themselves among the Working Class.
Where were these people when the Working Class were complaining that they were having to drain their savings to live off of due to not being allowed to go to work due to the meme-virus (which apparently wasn't a factor when Democrats suddenly decided they needed to go out and "protest", oddly enough)? Oh, that's right: Making fun of the Working Class. Sometimes even being PAID to make fun of the working class.
Where were these people when rioters were destroying the homes and businesses of the Working Class with authorities literally being told not to intervene? Oh, that's right: They were sitting in there safe little gated communities, outright encouraging the violence.
Where were these people when the Working Class exercises their right to protest against being forcibly injected with an experimental compound with no long-term testing? Oh, that's right: They were literally demonizing them, lying about them and calling them "terrorists" and "threats to democracy".
Now we're at the point where the Working Class can barely afford gas, food and a place to live. And I'm supposed to be up in arms over one of these Oblomovs having a six-figure income RATHER than a SEVEN-figure income, in exchange for sitting at a table six months out of the year and spitballing ideas for how to turn Superman or Batman or Spider-Man or any other white character black/gay? Holy shit, they can go frick themselves.
Also movie business types were the first to smugly bleat “learn 2 code” when anyone else’s job was threatened by automation. Because they assumed thought workers would be immune and only truck drivers and coal miners would lose their job to robots.
Not to mention wokeness is pissing off the normies more than ever now. Look at how Disney is fricking itself up.
I'm no Marxist, but seeing these rich bastards get what they deserve is hilarious.
It's because there's a lot of people online who rightly blame the writers and showrunners for pushing Race-swapping and LGBT agendas. But as usual, the alt-right and those that buy into it, are still mental midgets who can never see the forest for the trees. (and are puppeteered by israelites).
These strikes actually defang the Agenda pushing to a large extent. Once their paychecks are on the line, they'll be far more balanced and considerate of audiences as that's what will determine whether they'll get more residuals or whether they'll get more work because now the numbers come out. See
Don't forget they also campaigned to literally legally prohibit the "essential" working class from striking.
>dumb cuck shills for mega billionaires because he thinks people who don’t make enough to eat off of one appearance a year want to be paid even remotely a fair wage for their time and don’t want studios to be able to take their likeness and use it digitally in perpetuity for nothing
Anons really are brainwashed
If you want people to support your cause, you should have made an industry worth protecting. Frick all of you.
The strike is the workers trying to correct the industry, the industry is in complete control otherwise and is the one fricking everything up
I don’t believe you. All the writers are doing are whining about money. They aren’t talking about how shit the projects are. This leads me to believe they’d be happy with business as usual as long as they get paid more. I’m not pro executive or pro writer, I’m pro consumer. We’re the ones who have actually been getting fricked out of 15~ years of culture.
This is why those bastards will never get a penny out of me. There's so much free shit on Tubi, Plex, and even YouTube that why even bother?
Hollywood goes under? No more new movies and shows? Plenty of older stuff I can spend my time on.
Imagine if they actually had the balls to get on stage and demand better projects. Imagine if they appealed to the common people and told them that supporting them will bring about a Hollywood renaissance. This would be fixed overnight with 95% public approval.
But they won’t admit it. These “writers” think they’ve been producing good work.
Get a real job homosexual
Fair wage for WGA writers is zero.
>Be SAG/ WGA
>Dress up like a pirate or The Flash or a police detective and play pretend for 90 minutes
>Demand millions of dollars and royalties and job security
You have the same "job" as a five year-old, calm the frick down
>Every actor is an a-lister
This is a hobby board for film as an artform. Why do you know so little about it?
>Did you know that not all artists make it big and get millions of dollars
How exactly is it my problem that the easy, idiotic "career" they chose doesn't pay their outrageous Los Angeles bills?
If I want to make a living doing stand-up comedy but I'm not very funny or successful, why should other people have to step in and subsidize my lifestyle like I'm some ghetto single mom with 5 baby daddies?
The thing about working in the artistic industry and trying to unionize is that unlike garbagemen or teachers or welders, the public doesn't actually give a shit when you go on strike. If you follow a career path based on your own ego and passion for fame you don't get to have all of this hubris when you refuse to work and nobody misses you.
>WAAAAH WAAAAH SUPPORT MY CAUSE FOR SPOILED RICH COMMIES OR I'LL ACCUSE YOU OF "SUPPORTING THE RICH" OR SOMETHING!
I am not falling for it, queer.
Uh oh! Yet another L for the chuds.
The strikes will benefit anti-Woke and i'll tell you how.
Besides wanting to limit AI and control the rights to their image/work, the actors and writers want residual income for streaming. Part of that demand involves SEEING the numbers that movies and shows are doing. TV has ratings, home video has sales numbers, but streamers refuse to release their numbers both to the public and to the production staff.
With TV you need to make a pilot to be picked up and if your season does shit numbers on air, you won't get renewed or could even be taken off air prematurely. Streamers are pouring huge money into productions just to push agendas even when they don't get views. They're taking money from subscribers, investors and/or successful shows and movies and are subsidizing all the dogshit movies and shows with it. They'll also make entire seasons or multiple seasons at a time just because they don't want to risk being cancelled prematurely.
All this will change to a large extent when the numbers come out. Netflix, Amazon and Disney will not have an excuse to keep funding dogshit productions that nobody watches. The investors will push back. The subscribers will push back. The catalog is getting worse by the day but the subscription costs keep going up.
>Besides wanting to limit AI
The strikers aren't anti-AI. They are anti-company use of AI. They don't want to keep AI out of the process of movie-writing. They just don't want to be "replaced" by it.
They are against Studios being able to press a button and generate a script, with them not being involved. They are 100% for being able to press a button and generate the script themselves, and then be paid for doing it.
Why do they hate technology, progress, and the future? Can’t they learn to code?
>they aren't anti-AI, they're anti-being-replaced-by-AI or being fed AI scripts to spruce up for a fraction of what they were paid
so they're anti-AI
You're not "anti-AI" if you are fervently for YOUR side being allowed to use it, dipshit.
The writers don't have the means to dump fricktons of money into AI development and they're seeking to remove any financial incentive to do so by hollywood.
therefore, the writers are anti-AI.
That's not "anti-AI". That is, at best, "Anti-Corporate Use of AI". Or even more specifically "Anti-Corporate Use of AI in a way that negatively affects writers".
Again, you're not "anti-AI" of you want to use it yourself, moron. This isn't up for debate. You're literally arguing against facts.
Absolute talmudism. “I like it when AI takes other people’s jobs” is not a valid position.
Yes, I know. That's exactly why the writers don't have a tenable or respectable platform and why so many Americans are completely checked out of their supposed "plight".
>wanting to block AI development is pro-AI
the absolute state
>they're seeking to remove any financial incentive to do so by hollywood.
you dumb frick, if you want hollywood to be investing money into ai then YOU'RE anti-ai. whatever ai tech would emerge out of that would be proprietary and you'd never be allowed to touch it in a million years. i want ai i can use, which means NOT internal corporate technology.
>whatever ai tech would emerge out of that would be proprietary and you'd never be allowed to touch it in a million years.
Wouldn't all it would take the ONE leak, ONE disgruntled employee sneaking it out on a storage device, etc., and that thing would permanently be available in one form or another on every piracy platform available on the internet?
very unlikely, they're not going to give random employees unmediated access to the actual filesystem. they're going to be working through some remote interface.
It just seems like of all the possible resources or things to contain and protect, a digital program is one of the most futile these days. This is due to the fact that 1. It's not even a physical object but rather essentially just "data", and 2. It can be infinitely copied in exchange for what is essentially zero energy or expenditure or work.
I'm saying it seems like even though you can make it "difficult" to do so, a computer program is going to be easier to steal and get into the hands of the public than literally anything else that exists.
the point is that if your plan for how you get to use advanced ai is "maybe someone will have direct access to the filesystem of it and maybe they will make a copy and maybe whatever security they put on it can be broken and maybe it will run on consumer hardware and then maybe i can use it" then that's not a very reliable plan.
>maybe someone will steal it for you
Absolute troglodyte.
>if you think traffic laws should exist, that means you're against cars
people who hate AI also hate cars
I support the strikes in the sense that the union members are starving to death and/or running low on their HRT prescriptions, and the studios aren't releasing any new slop.
All me btw
Wait till they realize the sad truth
Why can't they be cool like us and support the israeli producers? That's the based thing to do!
I dont care. Sarah Gadon is not on strike and shes currently filming a new movie in Ireland.
>I dont care. Sarah Gadon is not on strike and shes currently filming a new movie in Ireland.
Based.
I’m not going to support the writers who wrote picrel and slop like that, they also want residuals among other gibs. If the strike hurts the Hollywood studios it’s a double win.
Who told the writers what to write? who hired people who'd specifically write that shit?
>places polled: mostly leftist uni campuses
Polls are meaningless data, as are surveys
I want hollywood to lose money, everyone involved.
It's crazy how they've been on strike for ages and literally nothing has changed and no one cares. Really activates the almonds
Imagine if the union of seasonal field workers and migrant builders went on str... oh wait no, they dont have a union
How about plumbers?
Because their jobs are superfluous and people can live without them. When the trash collectors strike, however..
At this point it's mutually assured destruction. They can never go back to the days with high residuals and DVD money because streaming and their bullshit accounting destroyed the system. Streaming killed the goose that lays the golden egg and everyone is about to find out that 99% of streaming shows make no money and it's all inflated value.
Why would you support some shit exec who we all know by now don't even know what they are doing? Even if you dislike the writers they still are worth more than these idiots at the top. Hell even if you hate all of Hollywood you should still support the strike for the potential damage it would do the entire system. What reason is there to not support to strike, oh no I won't get 12 shitty Marvel/Star Wars shows next year.
>Why would you support some shit exec who we all know by now don't even know what they are doing?
You keep extolling the negative values of the "suits" that equally or even more so apply to the writers.
It's not exactly a convincing argument or a good flex.
As I also said even if you hate both equally, or the writers more, you would support the strike for the potential damage done to both.
>I deserve more money for work that I already did and was already paid for
This is a great idea, I'm gonna go see if I can get paid again for all those fricking spreadsheets I do all day
i support the strikes
I hope they go on forever
This. Clickbait e-prostitutes and commies are running out of content and propaganda channels.
Why isn't Cinemaphile supporting the strikes??? It could legitimately end hollywood permanantly.
So isn't that what Cinemaphile wants??? To destroy hollywood permanantly???
Most people only heard about AI writing and immediately flipped their shit.
>poll sample: twitter feed
It's also unironically how they want to determine royalties
I too support the STRIKES, the longer Hollywood stays shut down the better it is for society.
The poll is sampling error. Normal people don't care either way to answer the poll since both the execs and the writers are pretentious twats.
No one cares Chaim. Hollywood is dying and so is the mainstream media.
Get ready for a tsunami of antisemitism. Heil victory gentlemen. Heil Hitler.
Why do people still trust polls? We all know they use push polls to try and create a narrative
Why would I support either the strikers or executives when I still have my fullscreen dvd of National Treasure?
I don't bother paying for media anymore. VPN, streaming, torrents, Tubi, and free DVDs/BluRays that my libraries give away (I just got Wild Things, Wedding Crashers, Go, The Rules of Attraction, Traffic, and A Simple Plan last week). Don't even have cable anymore.
But anon, what will you do when you have bingewhached everything
With no one to write more of the crap
There will be nothing left, anon
NOTHING
I have so much fricking shit that I downloaded, was gifted, bought, or got free that it's gonna take me years. I have the entire box set of The Wire my bro gave me 2 b-days ago and I have yet to start. I torrented a frickton of 60's, 70's, and 80's horror that I had to buy another hard drive. And these are all things I've never seen before.
Plus I only have limited free time. I'm just posting on Cinemaphile during a study break. I'm either at work, studying my degree, working out at the gym (lost 51 pounds since February and gaining some muscle), or just chilling in my place and listening to music to de-stress. So I couldn't care any less if there isn't any new crap. Most new stuff is shit to begin with and I say this as a 1994 baby.
>tfw have about 15 terabytes of movies and comics DL'd but never get to them because there is thousands if hours of youtube, tubi, archive kino I haven't watched
>Doesn't even count the thousand odd DVD's I have in binders, probably a third of which I haven't seen
When you add to that that Hollywood hasn't made a better than 7/10 movie (if that) in almost ten years, I literally have a lifetime supply of kino.
There's been a handful of good stuff in the past 10 years like Manchester by the Sea, The Killing of a Sacred Deer, Hell or High Water, Phantom Thread, and Good Time but you're right. We have to wade through a lot of shit and mediocre films to find good ones.
>giving a shit about the fricking writers that haven't produced anything good in years
I hope they like working at McDonald's because their getting replaced by a robot
They allready have automated fast food joints
they're really screwed then
Burn the whole thing down. Good. Frick Disney. They abused all fans.
Heil Hitler
I want Hollywood to hurt, therefore I support the writers.
Simple as.
You don’t need to like the writers to support them.
I'm sure the poll didn't just have 2 options with the other being studios in order to skew the numbers, no way.
but the writers are really shit at their jobs
It’s fricking crazy how all these polls occur and I’ve never been polled once for anything despite being solidly middle class in a non-rural area. Almost like they’re just manufactured to show popular support for whatever israeli shit is currently happening.
>they call you up and poll you
>you say you don’t support the writers
>the percentage doesn’t change
I take online surveys for gift card money and travel points sometimes. Those have to be the source now. I can't imagine phone surveys meaning anything but fraud now that landlines are out and nobody answers unknown caller IDs.
I support the strikes as it contributes to the collapse of hollywood
>contrats
>writers who cant spell want 2M a year salaries
lol
lmao
Why do this with the AI managing to write scripts now?
This is like street-level drug dealers striking against the cartels. Why would I support either?
Now do a poll outside of LA. Nevertheless outside of California.
California is 12% of the American population
>contrats
>i deserve $20,000 per episode
I support the strikes because I want these writers out of job and die, and for these companies to bleed money. The less trash produced the better. Burn down hollywood and rebuild a normal industry.
If anything I want more support for the strikes. Arm them with weapons and have them storm hollywood offices.
So I'm confused. Does Cinemaphile like Hollywood or hate Hollywood? Wouldn't supporting the strikers kill the industry?
Most of Cinemaphile are conservatives so as much as they hate hollywood they love they idea of helping hollywood billionaire studio owners get richer even more
How does wanting Hollywood to die equate support for le rich to get le richer?
Pssh, I cut the cord, never paid for a subscription, and only buy second-hand physical media. Not gonna give those bastards anymore of shekels if I can help it.
>Cinemaphile
>hasn't paid for a movie since Emily Browning got her breasts out
>supporting suits
Kek
We don't like the pozzed bullshit that diversity hires do and the suits that hired them.
We liked the Hollywood that focused on entertaining people as well as making it a craft like appreciating the lighting, writing, editing, camera angles, acting interplay, themes, costuming, etc. Hollywood was always liberal but they weren't as blatantly obnoxious with pushing wokeness as they did in the past 10 years. I say this as someone who votes liberal issues but it's gotten overboard. Let these frickers all suffer.
It depends on the outcome. You either support the strikers because you think it will hurt the industry, or you oppose the strikers because you think they'll win and get better pay and Hollywood will go on business as usual.
It doesn't matter if you support or oppose the strike, as long as you hate hollywood and the writers.
If studios cave, then it is back to status que ante bellum.
If the strike goes on indefinitely, both writers and studios get fricked
>If studios cave, then it is back to status que ante bellum.
Even so every day this dregs out is another day of painful losses. Hollywood already had a gap in movies thanks to Covid and this is another gap and this will force them to be smarter about movies if they have to pay writers and actors more. I think Christmas is the point of no return, if it runs to then its over
Oh no, are we going to lose our Hallmark Christmas kino?
Has nothing to do with the actual holiday people have been claiming if this reaches to Christmas the gap between movies will be too large and could destroy the theaters which are already hurting.
Let's hope strike goes on while we finally get a Depression. The whole thing needs to be scorched so that from the ashes we can get something better.
The industry is dead. If the ashes can be scattered, maybe it can start again and be good. It's not even an unprofitable industry. It's just been ruined by nepotism and DEI. They just make complete dog shit. If it breaks down, there is at least a chance it returns to pre dog-shit era. Otherwise we just stay with this zombie mega-corp slop factory producing dog shit pozzed remake or capeshit over and over.
Cinemaphile doesn't support the writers OR the producers, we support the strike itself. The longer it goes on, the more likely it is WGA homosexuals will end up broke and homeless. Studio owners are losing money as well and we don't have to watch more woke Black folkhit in the meantime.
Hopefully it leads to the death of Hollywood altogether.
>The impact of the Hollywood strikes on California’s economy has reached almost $5bn
Good.
Only problem with this is that even more Cali bastards are going to move to other states and shit it up
i support it because i dont want these morons writing any media ever
These frickers already ruined the US comics industry and vidya so I agree with ya anon.
>We surveyed 6 of Mr. Goldbergenstein's friends and 100% of them agree Mr. Goldbergenstein should get 90 gorillion dollars
lmao
lol
rofl
most shows and movies in the last 15 years had been complete shit, im currently watching 60´s-00´s stuff, and even stuff considered to be mediocre back then is way better than any of the stuff those writters had ever created.
Cinemaphile morons should start watching older media and discuss it more here to bring more attention to it. There are millions of things most have never seen that could be brought back and talked about instead of the catalogue being 80% Barbie threads.
If you see something interesting, talk about it.
We do talk about older media here. It's just that we have too many summer kiddies and trolls that just want to bait people.
I got into Tubi, Pluto, and Plex thanks to Cinemaphile as well as the essential core lists they post.
You can use old shit for bait too, like that gay who has been forcing the Steve Martin unfunny dance routine, which is far better than spamming moronic 2023 forced memes like the Wednesday tik tok dance
>I got into Tubi, Pluto, and Plex thanks to Cinemaphile as well as the essential core lists they post.
1. Wtf is Plex?
2. What are you watching on all three?
https://www.plex.tv/
Whatever that I find interesting. Plex is currently having Boondock Saints, Bronson, Point Break (the original not that shitty remake) on.
To infiltrate and subvert it with their cancer. Calis want to turn red states into California.
You should get Fubo. It's free TV streaming of cable channels.
Fubo isn't free.
>Tarantino on a podcast
>What service do you use the most? Netflix? HBO?
>"youtube and tubi mostly"
How did this even happen. Tubi is meant to be for the worst tier of low budget trash, but Cinemaphile shill memes aside, I've seen it be really popular with actual kinoseurs.
Tubi has a good catalogue and actually pays the filmmakers. Indie filmmaking is in dire straights but Tubi is one of the lights in the darkness.
Because it's free and since they need to fill their catalog, they stuff it with whatever they can. This includes stuff you can't find on cable or other streaming services or even home video like original TV movies as well as overlooked and forgotten kino shows and movies.
Who the frick in their right mind would pay for streaming? All of the non-free ones just peddle new stuff from the 2000's and onwards. Tubi actually has pre-21st century media that nobody talks about anymore and it's a fricking shame.
>Who the frick in their right mind would pay for streaming? All of the non-free ones just peddle new stuff from the 2000's and onwards. Tubi actually has pre-21st century media that nobody talks about anymore and it's a fricking shame.
Tubi doesn't promote themselves, despite being owned by Fox Broadcasting Co. now. When was the last time you saw Tubi movie/series actors do a press run? It's rare and they only do a few online interviews with random outlets nobody's heard of.
Tubi should also try to get more foreign content and try to pick some foreign markets to focus on to make new content towards besides the US.
never been a better time to have an antenna, almost everything on it is reruns of good shows
That part blows my mind with my rewatching this past year. Utterly forgotten middle tier flicks from the 90's look like complete kino compared to the past 5 years.
How has the quality just utterly plummeted like this. It can't just be women/diversity.
Because movies and shows were treated like a craft as much as money-making vehicles. The 2007's writer strike was the death knell of the kind of professionalism that TV/movie production used to have. Companies got greedy and just back-filled with any yes-men who eventually became diversity hires after 2008 and you can really see the dip in quality. I mean even comedy is nowhere near as sophisticated and feel-good in its execution and set-up compared to the over-the-top gross-out frat-boy humor that passes today.
>oh no they want more money!
>we can use AI sir, dont even have to pay it.
>well let me see, what do I do?
>YOU ARE ALL FIRED!
They got tricked into thinking writers are "just like them" and don't know that they get paid like 30k in a week for writing trash like one episode of She-Hulk.
Normies stuck their arms out for the heeb brew and are in favor of their tax money being funneled into a NATO puppet state in its war against the country that helped elect Donald Trump. Have you seen what men spend their money on? Have you seen what women do their face/breasts/asses? Why do you have any faith in humanity?
Striking is for communists.
of course people support them. these dumbfrick writers being out of the writers room means less "welcome to the ouch motherfrickers"
I support the strikes and you should too. We should all hope that the strike never ends.
This is Hollywood’s worst era. As a fan of film and television I can’t in good conscience support either side. I hope the stalemate creates a big enough rupture that the whole thing has to change.
~~*poll*~~
>no, you must support the price gouging exploitive corpos at the expense of everyone else because… you just do ok!
Both sides suck. I’m pro strike because it harms them both.
>le both sides
In what way? The studios are fricking up everything my failing to adapt to new workplace dynamics while also nickel and diming everyone to death, the workers have virtually no control over any of this except to strike and try to claw back some semblance of sanity
The output has been shit. Why should I cheer for either one of you?
The output has been shit because management is not adjusting to how work is done for the past 10+ years, and it’s progressively degrading the quality of writers because new writers aren’t exposed to more experienced ones that understand what works (many other issues like having moronic execs who are just chasing demographics or spamming franchises instead of trying to output quality products but this is the primary one) please tell me how some random mook in the writers room or some bit actor whose had 2 parts in 3 episodes of a B tier sitcom in the last year are supposed to fix the system when it’s owners and execs who have literally all the control
So they have the power to get Mr. Moneybags to open up his wallet but they don’t have the power to push for more creative control or better projects? I’m supposed to trust the writers to improve after they’ve been rewarded for a terrible job?
>/pol/cels think that once all the le evil woke troon hollywood writers are fired black rock owned media companies will sudddenly start adapting their AI slop because it's un-woke
>/pol/cel clowns think the corporations that hire said woke writers will suddenly produce kino that appeals to them when the woke writers are gone
>anon thinks once all the LA libtards are gone Disney, whose largest share holder is black rock, will suddenly adapt their anti-woke racist AI written script.
Why are chudcel worldviews so stunted? Why does every though they come up with seem like something a 14 year old would imagine? It would be cute if it wasn't so alarming?
>wow those woke writers take home a whole 30k a year that is so much wow, middle class jobs shouldn't exist they should be a burger flipper like me
>now those poor poor billionaire corporations that were being held hostage by the evil woke can adapt my AI script about a Black person killing robot that wants to revive hitler to kickstart a second holocaust.
As long as they continue to make shit, I will not support them. That goes for the writers and the studios.
“You’re fricked anyway” is not a reason to support the writers.
Where is the disconnect?
>IF THEY SET THAT AI FREE IT WILL BE THE END OF ALL OF US!
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
>He thinks the unions and studios aren’t in bed with each other
Oh you sweet summer child.
Any actual writers on here? I'm a low level staffer in the writer's room for a shit cable show. All the show runners and the "elite" head writers are just as bad as the studios. The system is dead and the ones at the top are just angling to see how much money they can get from the corpse of entertainment known as streaming. The "middle class" writers are the ones that are going to get screwed the hardest, but they think they are part of the elite so go along with the bullshit. Actors have it even worse and the A-Listers who took the streaming money will continue to screw over the rest. Just how the auto industry left Detroit in shambles, the entertainment industry will leave LA. There will be a few studios left but the ecosystem will collapse. It's over! Screw Ryan Murphy and his ilk.
LA was always going to decline because there's a lot of places that have better facilities and tax policies to encourage filming. Georgia and Canada are very popular. There's US films shot in Eastern Europe too.
But with the big studios getting greedy and oligopolizing their competitors with buyouts, combined with disregarding viewers to push agenda, its inevitable that they're now suffering financially. AT&T bought out Warner and then were forced to spin it off because of so much debt. Disney is collapsing under its own weight after buying out so many companies, including 21st Century Fox which the FTC should have never allowed in the first place. Amazon Prime Video is a money burning pit. Netflix sucks ass but has first-mover advantage but is still losing customers due to price hikes.
I'm a feature writer and I wish there was a woodchipper big enough to collectively fit all TV writers at once. I hope they all suffer and starve because their moronation is preventing anyone else from starting their careers.
>The "middle class" writers are the ones that are going to get screwed the hardest, but they think they are part of the elite so go along with the bullshit.
Do you mean to tell me they're voting against their economic interests? I was told only racist homophobic xenophobic jingoistic misogynist hillbilly redneck hick insurrectionist confederate nazis did that.
I love the gays in every one of these threads that seethe and moan about who supports what side - as if calling x side homosexuals on Cinemaphile is going to upend the entire movement
>the guy in this thread going on and on about "polcels" trying to convince you that all these starbucks swilling writers will suddenly be forced to be anti-woke if only they were paid more
Lmao.
>writers will suddenly be forced to be anti-woke if only they were paid more
who are you quoting?
The writers are literally destroying Hollywood, and I support that
you are a literal moron if you think polls mean anything in this day and age where the media is blatantly and frequently dishonest
Who cares what Americans think, let alone 67% of them
You do. Deeply.
This is what Americans actually believe
If you people put even one one-thousandth of the energy you waste on pretending you aren't obsessed with us into anything more productive, you might just lose that inferiority complex.
Kek is one of you the same mental amerifat from hamburger thread or are all burgerfriends this fricking sensitive about somebody calling out their shithole of a country lol
>so obsessed with americans, thinks they're all the same person
let me know when someone learns your language to go on your websites to talk about how little they care about you and your country.
>english
>your language
kek
Yep. Its the language the US chose, therefore it is the language you had to learn.
Ok you have to be the same lunatic from the burger thread, it’s way too fricking funny to be true if there are multiple amerifats posting who are this sensitive lmao
Also
>america chose english
Burgerland education everybody
Tbf most Americans are of non-English descent.
French, German and even Swedish were prominent languages until the 20th century.
>other languages were prominent until world war 2 destroyed europe
Suppression of French began in the 19th century for no reason really.
Suppression of German began during WW1.
French fell out of relevance because napoleon's failure to conquer the world.
German fell out of relevance because of Wilhelm II's failure to conquer the world.
>French fell out of relevance because napoleon's failure to conquer the world.
That was in the 18th century.
it was the late 18th century, leading into the 19th
So the 18th then
The suppression of French began in the second half of the 19th century.
after napoleon died and his legacy was gone.
Which is my point. Napolean's life or death had nothing to do with the suppressing of French in the US. It was just schizo Southern policymakers.
German is still spoken in the Northeast among Amish and Mennonites, but not in the South where most German-speakers lived.
france not being a country to be respected is what resulted in the "suppression" of french.
>france not being a country to be respected is what resulted in the "suppression" of french.
Six years before the Calvinist Puritans fled England to settle in the Northeast US, there were Calvinist Huguenots who fled genocide in Catholic France to settle in what's now the Southeast US.
No Napleons rule of France was in the early 19th century. Do you not know how the century thing works?
he became first consul of france in 1799, the 18th century
why in the frick would 17whatever be the 18whatever
because the first century was years 1-99, so the second century was 100-199. there wasn't a "zeroth century,"
what happened to year 0 though
ALL HEIL SATAN ARCHANGELOOOO
there was no year zero.
Of course there was, it was the year before 1
the year before 1AD was 1BC
I know, i’m just shitposting since this thread seems ripe for baiting
how in the frick can you go year by single year and then go from -1 to regular 1
because caesar issued an edict that it was now year 1 and everything before was before.
what dose he get to decide time?
by being dictator of the most powerful nation on earth
that homosexual wasn't american
americans wish they were him
negative numbers aren't real
Ancient Romans didn't have the concept of zero.
Sarah Gadon is Canadian and of Italian, French, British and Irish descent.
You have an unwaranted superiority complex.
Thankfully not a lot. I know you people think being in the limelight is desirable but it really isnt.
How often does someone talk about whatever shithole country you're from? bring it up randomly?
Imagine supporting Hollywood executives in anything
I don't care if they both kill each other, but supporting the strike directly fricks over major studios, which I'm completely fine with
67% is fricking abysmal when your enemy is a soulless megacorporation
It's probably 50% Liberals/17% Conservatives who just wanna see the corpos burn
Judging by these threads, the only reason people don't support the writers universally is because they can't get over how much they hate the writers.
its like they're being given a choice between eating shit and chugging a gallon of vomit, and they obviously don't want to do either.
Actually I do. Please never work again!
>THE HECKIN WRITERS ARE BEING FORCED TO WOKIFY BY THE BIG BAD STUDIOS
is there a lamer gaslighting attempt?
who are you quoting?
this is literally the dumbest thread on Cinemaphile
Because it doesnt have enough Sarah Gadon.