>lol yeah we totally went there
Only thing to make me laugh and only thing that looks like a joke, the rest just seems like a way to disguise anger. Not that I disapprove of the anger.
It's not a single punch line, dumbass, the first panel establishes subject, and the rest of it's small gags around that established subject of psudeo woke ads.
It sells burgers because people start talking about the product just to complain about how outraged they are at the ad. As any hack CEO can tell you, you can market to hate or anger, you can't market to indifference.
This is still far and away the best comic he's ever done.
[...]
It doesn't sell burgers, that's the thing.
No, that's the thing, Toss is a dumbass if he thinks that's a bad add: it's an interracial kiss, that's sexy (as long as the models are sexy) and exotic, the "tasty" is a nice slogan with a lot of implications from "our burgers are tasty" to "a hot black b***h will tongue your mouth just for a taste of our burgers" and there's the small tasteful burger logo.
[...]
Meanwhile:
is good because it's realistic. Just not in a way that Toss intended: the guy isn't shilling an agenda, he's just a modern ad guy who doesn't give a frick about the product, he just wants his ad to be sleek, popular and sexy.
Companies do that with everything. Look at pic related, it's selling you a good time with friends over a barbecue more than it's selling water.
Or to put it in Cinemaphile terms
>Look at pic related, it's selling you a good time with friends
The difference being people want a good time with friends. Nobody's sitting in front of the Tv thinking "man, I need more gay interracial couples in my life"
The idea is that you see those people and just think they are people. Or do you look at the sparking water commercial and think "I need more white men threesomes in my life"?
No you see the ad and you are intended to associate the product with things like material success, sex, or happy relationships. People who aren't obssessed with blacks don't jump straight to thinking about miscegenation when they watch these ads, the humans are just props to show off the product.
This is still far and away the best comic he's ever done.
It sells burgers because people start talking about the product just to complain about how outraged they are at the ad. As any hack CEO can tell you, you can market to hate or anger, you can't market to indifference.
>replace hyper thin models that the CEO liked to objectify in his ads because he thought they were sexy with very large woman because of his latent fat fetish which is also objectification.
>"The companies that were very recently pushing the idea that you need to be really thin, which shows a poor understanding of health, are now pushing health at every size. There's no way that could also be a poor understanding of health. They just... magically got smarter!
All this body positivity shit and yet I'm still to see a single ad actor or movie character with fricking zits and pimples on their face. I guess pimples are too gross even for overweight SJW trannies?
There's maybe a kernel of a good joke in the monsanto bit, but the rest of this is comic is pretty shit. It's just a a bunch of vaguely connected concepts that need far more thought to turn into actual jokes and the art is ugly.
OK. I get what it's trying to mock, but the execution was shit. There's no comedic structure here. None of the individual fake ads are funny in and of themselves. 2/10 did not laugh.
I love how Stonetoss is actually pretty talented as a cartoonist. He's a good artist and knows how to make efficient use of his format. The fact that he's actually good at what he does is just the icing on the cake of how he makes people seethe.
>He's a good artist
Nope. His art is the most basic highly vectorized shlock any beginner would make. Man knows his comedic timing tho, got to give him that.
I think "pretty talented" is a stretch, but he is at least able to structure a joke, which is more than can be said for a lot of internet political comics
>completely different
Not entirely. Though both ascribe different motivations to the fictional ad men, the general message is still the same: "woke advertising is obnoxious, ineffective and the people doing it are clueless."
This. Stonetoss plays off pre-existing narratives; his work is done for him. You understand what he's getting at most the time. This comic is wordy because it's not leaving it at "lol israelites" it's actually doing work to be absurd and funny.
Nice cognitive dissonance. That new comic is similarly referencing preexisting narratives and sentiments. " lol pozzed media ".
Cliche as frick and executed very poorly, with some of the most unappealing art style I've seen outside of /ic/ beginner threads
Yeah but Monsanto bumbling into being an Evil Corporation that will kill us all is kind of a gimme as jokes go.
Was kind of a Gimme. R.I.P. Monsanto, Bayer just isn't the same.
a brief three-page comic about modern advertisements. I thought it was very funny.
Why do beauty adverts want women with skin conditions nowadays?
Doesn't that sell less when they're selling a literally skin deep product for skin deep people?
Tumblr Jefferson made me laugh, but that’s just something which makes me laugh in general. Comic maker didn’t invent it
>trans and bi
And here I thought it was supposed to be pan these days. Or is that for people who want the attention of being trans but not to be trans, aka nonbinary?
I love how Stonetoss is actually pretty talented as a cartoonist. He's a good artist and knows how to make efficient use of his format. The fact that he's actually good at what he does is just the icing on the cake of how he makes people seethe.
He's competent. I can criticise a lot about his art and struggle to make functioning jokes, let alone make them land, but he's miles ahead of other twitter political cartoonists.
No frick off.
If your definition of gender is separated from your definition of sex and a purely personal thing that only exists in your head then it plays no part in sexual attraction.
And regardless, it would still be both sides of a binary so neither excludes anything.
Yeah, "Burgers?" made the same point better and in only three sentences.
[...]
If you need 3 panels to make a single punchline you're doing something wrong
If only you Geniuses were around for George Orwell so you could tell him that he didn't need to write a book, an illustration showing the ministry of Truth was not in fact about truth is good enough.
A single canned piece of "advice" that does nothing to tell you how to make something good, only how to minimize the time the viewer spends on your work. Which is probably the real point. After all people like in the animation industry wouldn't want to have too much competition for their hours of content without a single laugh, which never receives this criticism
I think you're not really concerned with it being funny, just it vaguely saying something you already agree with. I wish you would try to focus less on weird culture wars and learn how to enjoy the things you actually enjoy, instead of being mad about the things you don't.
>add a random purple hair to understand that women having different shapes as sizes is bad
Is this a boomer edit? It's funnier with just the two images and no text.
>random
Pretty sure that's a member of the US women's soccer team. They're world champions. Of course no one cares. But still. And yes, adding her is dumb. Even if she's a advocate for that sort of shit.
>black women obese >white girls fit
lol >two guys
Realistically, how many men wear lingerie? This is just stupid. Even dumber than having the fatsos there, because I'm not going to believe they make lingerie that fits their at asses, but at least they can theoretically lose weight.
>Weird to see Cinemaphile be so critical of this when the author made pic related and you all baseded out about it
These ones are all much better than the comic OP posted. The jokes are better, there's a greater density and variety of them.
>perrybible fellowship is the least offensive example, can't remember any better ones because literally nobody reads them
PBF literally does the opposite of that last one; the entire comic leans on visual puns when it's not leaning on visual absurdity - both which require specificity.
The Dove Real Beauty campaign is from 2004, EIGHTEEN FRICKING YEARS AGO. How the frick are there schizos still seething about it, let alone calling it "modern marketing"?
> Gucci is just regular advertising for the sector
Gucci is the only one that's the same, also I like the manscape one because I cringe whenever corporations use "lol quirky!" names for things.
>lol yeah we totally went there
Only thing to make me laugh and only thing that looks like a joke, the rest just seems like a way to disguise anger. Not that I disapprove of the anger.
If you need 3 panels to make a single punchline you're doing something wrong
It's not a single punch line, dumbass, the first panel establishes subject, and the rest of it's small gags around that established subject of psudeo woke ads.
Meanwhile:
if you think that has the same message as op's comic you are moronic
I think they're saying it's the opposite, duality of man and all that.
It's the opposite point.
Stonetoss is "Use Product to sell message"
This guy is "Use Movement to sell Product"
It sells burgers because people start talking about the product just to complain about how outraged they are at the ad. As any hack CEO can tell you, you can market to hate or anger, you can't market to indifference.
No, that's the thing, Toss is a dumbass if he thinks that's a bad add: it's an interracial kiss, that's sexy (as long as the models are sexy) and exotic, the "tasty" is a nice slogan with a lot of implications from "our burgers are tasty" to "a hot black b***h will tongue your mouth just for a taste of our burgers" and there's the small tasteful burger logo.
is good because it's realistic. Just not in a way that Toss intended: the guy isn't shilling an agenda, he's just a modern ad guy who doesn't give a frick about the product, he just wants his ad to be sleek, popular and sexy.
Yeah sure thing pal, you go on believing that.
Get off /misc/ and take your meds.
>it's realistic.
That's because it's real, except the focus isn't on the race of the characters.
Black person, have a nice day right now. The only interracial people should ever do is between good looking blondes and redheads.
Companies do that with everything. Look at pic related, it's selling you a good time with friends over a barbecue more than it's selling water.
Or to put it in Cinemaphile terms
>Look at pic related, it's selling you a good time with friends
The difference being people want a good time with friends. Nobody's sitting in front of the Tv thinking "man, I need more gay interracial couples in my life"
Are you autistic?
>Stop noticing things!
even writes like an autist
Says you.
The idea is that you see those people and just think they are people. Or do you look at the sparking water commercial and think "I need more white men threesomes in my life"?
No you see the ad and you are intended to associate the product with things like material success, sex, or happy relationships. People who aren't obssessed with blacks don't jump straight to thinking about miscegenation when they watch these ads, the humans are just props to show off the product.
>does OP comic in 1 page and more subtle
This is still far and away the best comic he's ever done.
It doesn't sell burgers, that's the thing.
Two sides of the same coin. They're selling a product and a message
Being a literal nazi, Stonetoss hates race-mixing, that’s the real joke, right?
>replace hyper thin models that the CEO liked to objectify in his ads because he thought they were sexy with very large woman because of his latent fat fetish which is also objectification.
>"The companies that were very recently pushing the idea that you need to be really thin, which shows a poor understanding of health, are now pushing health at every size. There's no way that could also be a poor understanding of health. They just... magically got smarter!
do you think we see any examples of "body positivity" like this ?
No ad like that for guys I'm betting.
I've seen a few, and there's that really horrible obese gay guy they tried pushing a while ago.
>the 4th one
I'm fine with this if they didn't have to fricking bash on big titty and big assed ladies.
BP movement is like a creature that eats itself.
well yeah, except for the JAV pornstar in 4 that looks exactly like a Dove ad
>fit girl
>hyper breasts
Why is there no buff muscle girl?
kek, I like it, wish it had a better resolution
>real krispies
All this body positivity shit and yet I'm still to see a single ad actor or movie character with fricking zits and pimples on their face. I guess pimples are too gross even for overweight SJW trannies?
It's all hypocrisy. The rules are for everyone except the elitist c**ts pushing the destructive subversion.
I like the comic it's going to be misinterpreted to frick
I don't get it.
You forgot to censor Pop's nipples.
I wanna frick the Elf on the Right.
Where's the joke Frickley
There's maybe a kernel of a good joke in the monsanto bit, but the rest of this is comic is pretty shit. It's just a a bunch of vaguely connected concepts that need far more thought to turn into actual jokes and the art is ugly.
Right can't meme
Neither can the left.
That Dove advertisement campaign was back when I was in fricking high school, way over a decade ago! Like, back when the 360 launched!
And guess what: no advertisements like the ones in these comics were made and society hasn't fricking imploded!
>no advertisements like the ones in these comics were made and society hasn't fricking imploded!
Don't bury your head in the sand
Don’t care about the thread but I want to frick those elves.
>extreme exaggerations in a boomer format
Do better Republicans
OK. I get what it's trying to mock, but the execution was shit. There's no comedic structure here. None of the individual fake ads are funny in and of themselves. 2/10 did not laugh.
Yeah, "Burgers?" made the same point better and in only three sentences.
This
If Stonetoss manages to do the same joke and punchline better than you then you're a fricking terrible cartoonist
I love how Stonetoss is actually pretty talented as a cartoonist. He's a good artist and knows how to make efficient use of his format. The fact that he's actually good at what he does is just the icing on the cake of how he makes people seethe.
I despise him for political reasons, but he knows how to structure a joke, unlike the shit in this thread.
i despise him because he's a c**t
as are most people who's specialty is "making people seethe"
>He's a good artist
>He's a good artist
Nope. His art is the most basic highly vectorized shlock any beginner would make. Man knows his comedic timing tho, got to give him that.
There aren't many who occupy his same space that are as decent so it's easy to stand out telling /misc/ jokes in different ways.
Ehhhhhhhhhhh
Not really, most his joke arent funny and no punchline
I think "pretty talented" is a stretch, but he is at least able to structure a joke, which is more than can be said for a lot of internet political comics
that stonetoss comic is making a completely different point
>completely different
Not entirely. Though both ascribe different motivations to the fictional ad men, the general message is still the same: "woke advertising is obnoxious, ineffective and the people doing it are clueless."
A completely moronic point, because it posits that adverts are a genuine reflection of the boardroom's beliefs and/composition.
Not exactly the same point, "burgers?" is a clueless dig at lifestyle advertising, these are digs at companies doing a poor job of virtue signaling.
This. Stonetoss plays off pre-existing narratives; his work is done for him. You understand what he's getting at most the time. This comic is wordy because it's not leaving it at "lol israelites" it's actually doing work to be absurd and funny.
Nice cognitive dissonance. That new comic is similarly referencing preexisting narratives and sentiments. " lol pozzed media ".
Cliche as frick and executed very poorly, with some of the most unappealing art style I've seen outside of /ic/ beginner threads
Because it's not about being "pozzed" it's about the awkward messaging as marketing, tonedeaf to how it trivializes real things with products.
The images we get are funnier than "he thinks interracial couples in ads is white genocide".
>actually doing work
Twice the work with half the affect.
The Monsanto ad was kind of funny.
Yeah but Monsanto bumbling into being an Evil Corporation that will kill us all is kind of a gimme as jokes go.
Was kind of a Gimme. R.I.P. Monsanto, Bayer just isn't the same.
It got a slight chuckle out of me.
Tumblr Jefferson made me laugh, but that’s just something which makes me laugh in general. Comic maker didn’t invent it
Just like The Nib
Pretty much this.
Why do beauty adverts want women with skin conditions nowadays?
Doesn't that sell less when they're selling a literally skin deep product for skin deep people?
>trans and bi
And here I thought it was supposed to be pan these days. Or is that for people who want the attention of being trans but not to be trans, aka nonbinary?
He's competent. I can criticise a lot about his art and struggle to make functioning jokes, let alone make them land, but he's miles ahead of other twitter political cartoonists.
bi and pan aren't the same
on practice, they are.
No
Bi = love someone based of their sex
Pan = love someone based of their gender
No frick off.
If your definition of gender is separated from your definition of sex and a purely personal thing that only exists in your head then it plays no part in sexual attraction.
And regardless, it would still be both sides of a binary so neither excludes anything.
What's the difference between gender and fetish?
They just don't know what a gender is.
They only know sex. Incompletely. And they don't even understand that.
Yeah, bi isn't in vogue, pan is, so my question is why the flag of choice was bi.
If only you Geniuses were around for George Orwell so you could tell him that he didn't need to write a book, an illustration showing the ministry of Truth was not in fact about truth is good enough.
A single canned piece of "advice" that does nothing to tell you how to make something good, only how to minimize the time the viewer spends on your work. Which is probably the real point. After all people like in the animation industry wouldn't want to have too much competition for their hours of content without a single laugh, which never receives this criticism
What happened?
acute schizophrenia
I improved.
By what specific standards do you consider that an improvement?
>KLK is almost a decade old
Jesus fricking Christ
>OK.
lol dude have a nice day
This type of shit is way beyond ridiculous at this point, now "OK." is somehow on the no-no list with "y'all" and "my dude"?
>I get what it's trying to mock, but the execution was shit. There's no comedic structure here
Not all comics should be comedy anon
the dude who makes these is some vegan weirdo
The is his problem with vitiligo?
is Beany Tuesday one of the artists that Cinemaphile really hates for some reason? I thought these were funny
capitalism likes identity politics because it suddenly created entire new markets and demographics corporations can cater to
Thats not why, it makes their jobs harder, IP doesn't make new people, it makes existing people pickier
no, it makes it easier to sell shit to people. it gives them a team to pick so they can feel special when they buy shit.
it's not great but sometimes i like a verbose comic with several gags.
I think you're not really concerned with it being funny, just it vaguely saying something you already agree with. I wish you would try to focus less on weird culture wars and learn how to enjoy the things you actually enjoy, instead of being mad about the things you don't.
Is this from the same guy who did the Japanese girlfriend abuse comic?
Different artist i think, forgot what their username was.
Capitalism always wins. It is sad the economically illiterate morons cannot accept.
Man, Reigen really let himself go.
started off weak, improved as it went along. i worry the monsanto bit will end up being all too prescient
>i worry the monsanto bit will end up being all too prescient
Anon, you have to let Monsanto go, the buyout wasnt your fault.
At every ad company there's an undercover Chinese saboteur laughing to himself that these stupid baizuo actually take his advice seriously.
>add a random purple hair to understand that women having different shapes as sizes is bad
Is this a boomer edit? It's funnier with just the two images and no text.
>random
Pretty sure that's a member of the US women's soccer team. They're world champions. Of course no one cares. But still. And yes, adding her is dumb. Even if she's a advocate for that sort of shit.
>implying i wouldn't frick all of them
I still can't get over how wild that documentary got in the last half of the last episode. There's no bouncing back for Victoria's Secret.
>black women obese
>white girls fit
lol
>two guys
Realistically, how many men wear lingerie? This is just stupid. Even dumber than having the fatsos there, because I'm not going to believe they make lingerie that fits their at asses, but at least they can theoretically lose weight.
I know plenty of guys that shop at Forever 21 because they cute their sexy underwear to have some room in the crotch.
what is this obsession with making asian guys the feminine/gay ones
Weird to see Cinemaphile be so critical of this when the author made pic related and you all baseded out about it
So, Togashi?
>Tumblr banning porn was these guys 9/11
Finally a joke
Proof that lazy pandering is an attitude thing and has nothing to do with being independent or corporate.
>Weird to see Cinemaphile be so critical of this when the author made pic related and you all baseded out about it
These ones are all much better than the comic OP posted. The jokes are better, there's a greater density and variety of them.
>perrybible fellowship is the least offensive example, can't remember any better ones because literally nobody reads them
PBF literally does the opposite of that last one; the entire comic leans on visual puns when it's not leaning on visual absurdity - both which require specificity.
>prison pit
That has a bigger plot or focus with less potty humor. I would suggest crossed?
>That has a bigger plot or focus with less potty humor.
Isn't it exactly the same art style? I'll hand it to you there's less potty, more cum.
The Dove Real Beauty campaign is from 2004, EIGHTEEN FRICKING YEARS AGO. How the frick are there schizos still seething about it, let alone calling it "modern marketing"?