I have actually no clue why at the end they decided to make steven leave Beach city and the gems behind. I mean he literally worked his ass off since a baby to save everything and once he saved the world and could've been ruler of everything he dipped.
>Cookie Cat! He left his family behind! >Foreshadow your story's ending using a ice commercial song.
I don't know if that supposed to be based or cringe.
>Cookie Cat! He left his family behind! >Foreshadow your story's ending using a ice commercial song.
I don't know if that supposed to be based or cringe.
I just don't think having Steven continue the cycle of running away on your own that both Rose and Greg did is really that great, especially when all steven wanted was a stable home life and as soon as he finally has it he runs
He dipped because the threat was effectively over. Steven no longer had to worry about aliens attacking his town. He left to go find a new purpose in life. His dad did the same thing and it ended up perfectly fine.
His dad (same as Rose) left home because it was shitty according to Greg. Strict family, misunderstanding parents - I understand why he left, but Steven literally left just as soon as life was getting good. My man's suffered for almost a decade straight and said "frick it" the first day free and wanted to find more problems to fix (which id say isn't healthy at all)
He left so he could find himself. He hasn't seen the world yet. He doesn't want to just save people anymore. Steven wanted to find something for himself like the Gems did. It's not even like he's leaving forever. When he comes back he will have a better sense of self and be a better person for his beach city friends. I get why Steven wouldn't want to just sit in one place.
Because it's a show written by emotionally stunted people who think learning about pop psychology from tiktok and tumblr has given them a mature and nuanced understanding of relationships and growing up. So they think a character going >actually I need to run away from all my problems and go make a new life for myself somewhere out in the world!
Is a profound revelation, instead of an immature, irresponsible thing to do that's only copying the sort of mistakes his dad made.
He's not running away, he's taking some time for himself. It's not like he's going off forever. The ending was about Steven taking the time to think about himself before others for the first time in his life, and he needed time away to do that. Thinking that means he's leaving Beach City forever is a real stretch.
It's still an immature thing to do. It's like people who think a vacation will allow them to escape their problems and finally put an end to the stress, but none of the stress actually goes away and all of their personal problems go with them on the vacation. Thinking you can just leave for a little while and come back a new person is just delusional pop psychology.
It's not a vacation. He's leaving his home. It's what a child does when they become an adult. They head to college, they get a job, they move out of their parent's house.
It doesn't mean they're fricking off from their family forever, it's just an essential part of growing up.
It's what boomers did when they decided to sabotage the entire country. It's a very recent trend and all evidence points to it being a moronic idea that has damaged more people than it has helped. Each successive generation raised on this "get away from home as early as possible" mentality has become more damaged and mentally unstable than the last. Running away doesn't solve problems. It creates more.
You have presumably watched the entire show, and it surprised you that the final "villain" is defeated with a group hug?
The actual final antagonist of the show got defeated by being embarrassed
What do you mean you didn't like that the space white Hitler lady who conquered space and countless planets got defeated with the the power of embarrassment?
>White Diamond was never anything like Hitler. She did what her nature told her to.
Anon read a human psychology book, please.
Hitler went out of his way to create a genocidal war machine aimed towards entities generally accepted to be deserving of life. White Diamond had always been meant to maintain and spread a colony, which is exactly what she did. Blaming her would be akin to a vegan screaming humans shouldn't farm because it hurts insects.
It's human nature to want to spread your affluence as far and wide as possible. We cool with colonialism now?
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>We cool with colonialism now?
i thought this entire site liked colonialism
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There is a huge difference between colonizing your own species and a foreign one. Essentially gem colonization was akin to cutting down forests, which as a collateral damage affected wildlife. Hitler set out to genocide people just as sentient and human as Germans were. Also, I fail to see the point. Are you arguing that both White Diamond and Hitler were in the right? Or that White Diamond should have somehow corrected her nature on her own?
What do you mean you didn't like that the space white Hitler lady who conquered space and countless planets got defeated with the the power of embarrassment?
>Females who have no concept of how human beings outside of their small echochamber behave, can't write characters who don't behave exactly like them? Even when said behavior would be illogical to their pre established personality/character/age and sex/role?
No fricking shit
These people think everyone acts like a teen girl, everyone- immortal aliens, fully grown middle aged men, ancient dictators, wise mentors, stoic heroes... would all act the same. They'd all cry, whine, get embarrassed, get flustered and then get defeated with a nice heckin wholesome hug fest.
Gotta love how they couldn't organically lead to the story to this point so they just slam all of this PTSD shit in just to force a conclusion that amounts to "I dunno, go do something else for a while or whatever"
I think the PTSD stuff was organic. In the original run of the show Steven is shown hiding his feelings and being affected by the dangerous situations he was constantly put in. They didn't explore it much at the time because the rest of the story needed to happen I guess.
Honestly Steven having PTSD and trauma from all that felt more realistic then him just being an ordinary teen having lived an extraordinary life. Steven became a much more interesting character in Future, I'm a bit sad his turn-around was so quick cuz him shattering/healing Jasper was kind of peak drama.
>I think the PTSD stuff was organic
It really wasn't. Every crisis ends with Steven getting his shit straightened and figured out and then Future comes along and goes >YOU DIDN'T SOLVE ANY OF YOUR PROBLEMS
Because they thought they were being really clever by attempting to deconstruct the child hero trope with exaggerated trauma and panic attacks. Even though Steven is literally and immortal gem being and is not actually capable of sustaining real damage.
Lol mass quoting homosexual
He did this in a few other threads too, check some of the threads in the catalog you'll see him do this in every thread that personally upsets him
I think the most unbelievable part of Post-Change Your Mind Steven Universe is this idea that the Diamonds are completely rehabilitated and aren't doing anything nefarious when Steven isn't looking.
The thing to remember with all of the gems is that they're artificial beings who are all built with a purpose. We don't know who made the diamonds, but they had a very clear purpose of "expand the empire".
Once Pink Diamond was lost though, that programming failed. The post-war gems like Peridot had inferior specs and you can see that even the home planet is falling into ruin. The mission changed from "expand the empire" to "keep the empire from collapsing".
So the Diamonds had hundreds of years of stressing out over things falling apart, and hundreds of years of forgetting their original programming. And it's shown that every gem can break free of their programming with enough time and willpower. So when they learn about Pink's fate and meet Steven, none of the Diamonds have any of those urges of "expand the empire" remaining. As immortals, they instead think "Oh, we actually CAN stop the empire from collapsing now. Neat."
I love how even the transformation happened offscreen. We see a large shape shoot out of Steven's back. Then next time we see him, he's just a giant dinosaur.
if the last ep of the show after all those filler episodes was Steven going full 'Atomic Death'
turning Beach City into big bowl of glassed ash,
I woulda called it brilliant and nominated it for all the awards.
I really thought future was going to be about Steven trying to deal with being in a place that no longer needs him.
And slowly breaking down when steven relise things can resolve without him like Lars and Stacy meeting again
then becoming agitated when people say "just talk it out" like amethyst did cause steven was that guy. And he doesn't know how to vent or is used to carrying the burden
Then Steven would be willingly to take the aggressive route but still hide is emotion with little cracks here and there like with fusion ruby and the aquamarine?
And pissed that jasper is not OK with the way gem life is and still dealing with his lack of meaning in life jasper and Steven fights and turn into training wich is a healthy outlet
(But the main argument for the ep was life is precious.)
I thought the first 2 seasons of Steven Universe were cool, obviously because of gem lore, but as the show went on it became increasingly clear that it was a low priority on the show but I didn't expect them to make it as bad as they did after the Zoo episodes.
The gem designs got gradually worse, homeworld was just a mishmash of random constructs, their idea of "less human" looking gems is just turning them into objects like a comb and walls, they abandoned that Lars/Emerald plotline and we never got a gem origin episode. That art book with the uncorrupted gem designs was terrible too. We didn't even see an uncorrupted peridot or what Sunstone and Smokey 1.0 looked like.
I have actually no clue why at the end they decided to make steven leave Beach city and the gems behind. I mean he literally worked his ass off since a baby to save everything and once he saved the world and could've been ruler of everything he dipped.
>Cookie Cat! He left his family behind!
>Cookie Cat! He left his family behind!
>Foreshadow your story's ending using a ice commercial song.
I don't know if that supposed to be based or cringe.
I just don't think having Steven continue the cycle of running away on your own that both Rose and Greg did is really that great, especially when all steven wanted was a stable home life and as soon as he finally has it he runs
All Steven does is run away, but it's a good thing because he's a soi
Addressing your problems is masc and cringe
He dipped because the threat was effectively over. Steven no longer had to worry about aliens attacking his town. He left to go find a new purpose in life. His dad did the same thing and it ended up perfectly fine.
His dad (same as Rose) left home because it was shitty according to Greg. Strict family, misunderstanding parents - I understand why he left, but Steven literally left just as soon as life was getting good. My man's suffered for almost a decade straight and said "frick it" the first day free and wanted to find more problems to fix (which id say isn't healthy at all)
He left so he could find himself. He hasn't seen the world yet. He doesn't want to just save people anymore. Steven wanted to find something for himself like the Gems did. It's not even like he's leaving forever. When he comes back he will have a better sense of self and be a better person for his beach city friends. I get why Steven wouldn't want to just sit in one place.
Because it's a show written by emotionally stunted people who think learning about pop psychology from tiktok and tumblr has given them a mature and nuanced understanding of relationships and growing up. So they think a character going
>actually I need to run away from all my problems and go make a new life for myself somewhere out in the world!
Is a profound revelation, instead of an immature, irresponsible thing to do that's only copying the sort of mistakes his dad made.
He's not running away, he's taking some time for himself. It's not like he's going off forever. The ending was about Steven taking the time to think about himself before others for the first time in his life, and he needed time away to do that. Thinking that means he's leaving Beach City forever is a real stretch.
It's still an immature thing to do. It's like people who think a vacation will allow them to escape their problems and finally put an end to the stress, but none of the stress actually goes away and all of their personal problems go with them on the vacation. Thinking you can just leave for a little while and come back a new person is just delusional pop psychology.
It's not a vacation. He's leaving his home. It's what a child does when they become an adult. They head to college, they get a job, they move out of their parent's house.
It doesn't mean they're fricking off from their family forever, it's just an essential part of growing up.
It's what boomers did when they decided to sabotage the entire country. It's a very recent trend and all evidence points to it being a moronic idea that has damaged more people than it has helped. Each successive generation raised on this "get away from home as early as possible" mentality has become more damaged and mentally unstable than the last. Running away doesn't solve problems. It creates more.
>Cinemaphile literally can't comprehend the concept of moving out of their parent's house.
Steven doesn't live with Greg though.
You have presumably watched the entire show, and it surprised you that the final "villain" is defeated with a group hug?
The actual final antagonist of the show got defeated by being embarrassed
What do you mean you didn't like that the space white Hitler lady who conquered space and countless planets got defeated with the the power of embarrassment?
White Diamond was never anything like Hitler. She did what her nature told her to.
>She did what her nature told her to.
Just like Hitler
Hitler went out of his way to create a genocidal war machine aimed towards entities generally accepted to be deserving of life. White Diamond had always been meant to maintain and spread a colony, which is exactly what she did. Blaming her would be akin to a vegan screaming humans shouldn't farm because it hurts insects.
It's human nature to want to spread your affluence as far and wide as possible. We cool with colonialism now?
>We cool with colonialism now?
i thought this entire site liked colonialism
There is a huge difference between colonizing your own species and a foreign one. Essentially gem colonization was akin to cutting down forests, which as a collateral damage affected wildlife. Hitler set out to genocide people just as sentient and human as Germans were. Also, I fail to see the point. Are you arguing that both White Diamond and Hitler were in the right? Or that White Diamond should have somehow corrected her nature on her own?
>White Diamond was never anything like Hitler. She did what her nature told her to.
Anon read a human psychology book, please.
>Females who have no concept of how human beings outside of their small echochamber behave, can't write characters who don't behave exactly like them? Even when said behavior would be illogical to their pre established personality/character/age and sex/role?
No fricking shit
These people think everyone acts like a teen girl, everyone- immortal aliens, fully grown middle aged men, ancient dictators, wise mentors, stoic heroes... would all act the same. They'd all cry, whine, get embarrassed, get flustered and then get defeated with a nice heckin wholesome hug fest.
Weird when even the pony show punished the villains more than this, very embrassing
Future had such a terrible ending
Future in general was godawful, and actively destroyed any of the few redeeming qualities the OG show had through moronic retcons.
Gotta love how they couldn't organically lead to the story to this point so they just slam all of this PTSD shit in just to force a conclusion that amounts to "I dunno, go do something else for a while or whatever"
I think the PTSD stuff was organic. In the original run of the show Steven is shown hiding his feelings and being affected by the dangerous situations he was constantly put in. They didn't explore it much at the time because the rest of the story needed to happen I guess.
Honestly Steven having PTSD and trauma from all that felt more realistic then him just being an ordinary teen having lived an extraordinary life. Steven became a much more interesting character in Future, I'm a bit sad his turn-around was so quick cuz him shattering/healing Jasper was kind of peak drama.
>I think the PTSD stuff was organic
It really wasn't. Every crisis ends with Steven getting his shit straightened and figured out and then Future comes along and goes
>YOU DIDN'T SOLVE ANY OF YOUR PROBLEMS
Because they thought they were being really clever by attempting to deconstruct the child hero trope with exaggerated trauma and panic attacks. Even though Steven is literally and immortal gem being and is not actually capable of sustaining real damage.
I'd give you a hug because it's hard to find people who openly agree about that
Yeah lets hug the huge pink dick, you ain't slick Sucrose.
Be thankful they didn't end it with a drag Queen or a cross dressing musical sequence.
Funny enough that’s how the movie ends.
Girls in suits is technically cross dressing.
Don't get upset at us cuz one bad poster
Where is the movie gumgay?
My giant monster would definitely calm down after enough hugs and kisses from the gems.
Lol mass quoting homosexual
He did this in a few other threads too, check some of the threads in the catalog you'll see him do this in every thread that personally upsets him
E-celeb gays are cancer
In the children's show about emotional intelligence, why did they simply not kill their enemies?
Because this show sucks why do you think SU gays act autistic all the time
but what if his penis
Me personally I think Steven should have punched his mental illness.
honestly I have no memory of the finale
I think the most unbelievable part of Post-Change Your Mind Steven Universe is this idea that the Diamonds are completely rehabilitated and aren't doing anything nefarious when Steven isn't looking.
The thing to remember with all of the gems is that they're artificial beings who are all built with a purpose. We don't know who made the diamonds, but they had a very clear purpose of "expand the empire".
Once Pink Diamond was lost though, that programming failed. The post-war gems like Peridot had inferior specs and you can see that even the home planet is falling into ruin. The mission changed from "expand the empire" to "keep the empire from collapsing".
So the Diamonds had hundreds of years of stressing out over things falling apart, and hundreds of years of forgetting their original programming. And it's shown that every gem can break free of their programming with enough time and willpower. So when they learn about Pink's fate and meet Steven, none of the Diamonds have any of those urges of "expand the empire" remaining. As immortals, they instead think "Oh, we actually CAN stop the empire from collapsing now. Neat."
more potential violent outbursts of men in society could be prevented by the simple act of a hug.
I love how even the transformation happened offscreen. We see a large shape shoot out of Steven's back. Then next time we see him, he's just a giant dinosaur.
if the last ep of the show after all those filler episodes was Steven going full 'Atomic Death'
turning Beach City into big bowl of glassed ash,
I woulda called it brilliant and nominated it for all the awards.
>stevens monster design is a fricking pink hardon.
Sugar wanting to suck wiener the whole time.
I really thought future was going to be about Steven trying to deal with being in a place that no longer needs him.
And slowly breaking down when steven relise things can resolve without him like Lars and Stacy meeting again
then becoming agitated when people say "just talk it out" like amethyst did cause steven was that guy. And he doesn't know how to vent or is used to carrying the burden
Then Steven would be willingly to take the aggressive route but still hide is emotion with little cracks here and there like with fusion ruby and the aquamarine?
And pissed that jasper is not OK with the way gem life is and still dealing with his lack of meaning in life jasper and Steven fights and turn into training wich is a healthy outlet
(But the main argument for the ep was life is precious.)
Glad to see its still the same, i remeber how they beat white Dimond, this shit dont surprise me
Should have gone with the alternate ending.
I thought the first 2 seasons of Steven Universe were cool, obviously because of gem lore, but as the show went on it became increasingly clear that it was a low priority on the show but I didn't expect them to make it as bad as they did after the Zoo episodes.
The gem designs got gradually worse, homeworld was just a mishmash of random constructs, their idea of "less human" looking gems is just turning them into objects like a comb and walls, they abandoned that Lars/Emerald plotline and we never got a gem origin episode. That art book with the uncorrupted gem designs was terrible too. We didn't even see an uncorrupted peridot or what Sunstone and Smokey 1.0 looked like.
They should have made Amethyst big instead of Garnet
Haha