Frank Grillo is often b***hing about being robbed of a bigger role as Crossbones.
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Frank Grillo is often b***hing about being robbed of a bigger role as Crossbones.
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He was a great Crossbones, he should have b***hed.
Maybe he shouldn't have refused to come back if he felt robbed
I’ve only read Christopher Eccleston absolutely hated playing Malekith because of the make up needed and ahead an all around bad time filming.
They pitched him a very different character than what was put on screen. All the stuff from Ragnarok of Odin being a bad guy in the beginning was set to be in Dark World with Malekith's family killed by Asgard as part of their pacification of the 9 realms. Malekith was supposed to be an extremist but one acting from a legitimate place of being wronged
It wasn't Odin who would have wronged Malekith, it would have been Odin's father Bor.
Dark World in general was a giant shitshow during development, dunno if any of the other MCU projects were that messy.
Anything in production around the time that Avengers was a hit and needed to line up to Infinity War became shit shows
>Edgar Wright's Ant-Man was supposed to be a one-off goofy comedy, then told it had to include Avengers
>Jon Favreau left Iron Man 3 because he was fed up working with Feige on the new universe but was promised Haunted Mansion. Did not happen. Made CHEF which is more or less him shitting on Feige and co-starring Scarlett Johansson. Came back to do Jungle Book and Lion King "live action."
>Patty Jenkins started shooting Thor the Dark World but was told they'd have to incorporate Avengers 2 stuff; didn't know when they'd be able to tell her since they were still writing it; she quit and got replaced
>James Gunn was told he was safe with GoTG but asked if he could use Thanos but not to worry they wouldn't be in the Avengers. Film became so popular they immediately went back on that.
>Edgar Wright's Ant-Man was supposed to be a one-off goofy comedy, then told it had to include Avengers
From what I recall, the problem became Wright prioritized, rightly, the Cornetto movies such that Ant-Man kept getting pushed further and further back. By the time he was available to work on it, a stand alone Ant-Man movie wasn't going to fly. Or at least that destroyed the East Coast of the US or whatever it was.
It was eight years. It wasn't just the Cornetto films, he also directed Scott Pilgrim and wrote The Adventures of Tintin.
>that Avengers was a hit and needed to line up to Infinity War became shit shows
Wright's Ant-Man was supposed to be a one-off goofy comedy, then told it had to include Avengers
>>Jon Favreau left Iron Man 3 because he was fed up working with Feige on the new universe but was promised Haunted Mansion. Did not happen. Made CHEF which is more or less him shitting on Feige and co-starring Scarlett Johansson. Came back to do Jungle Book and Lion King "live action."
Jenkins started shooting Thor the Dark World but was told they'd have to incorporate Avengers 2 stuff; didn't know when they'd be able to tell her since they were still writing it; she quit and got replaced
Gunn was told he was safe with GoTG but asked if he could use Thanos but not to worry they wouldn't be in the Avengers. Film became so popular they immediately went back on that.
I honestly hate Wright for delaying Ant-Man so much it turned into the safest movie in all the MCU. But I fricking love Wright for making The Cornetto Trilogy, especially The World's End, so it's conflicting.
>hating on maybe the last actually good MCU movie
Age of Ultron was apparently a shit show too due to Whedon. I remember a lot of interviews by the actors saying how much better things were when the Russos took over.
Well, Whedon and the Creative Committee.
And all of those interviews were just conveniently taken after Whedon was cancelled, right?
Man I hate this trend. Whenever someone gets cancelled everyone associated with them crawls out the woodwork trying to get some clout and their 5 minutes in the spotlight by claiming "oh yeah, I totally knew this guy was a douche all along!"
>Edgar Wright's Ant-Man was supposed to be a one-off goofy comedy, then told it had to include Avengers
Wright took issue with having to soften up both Scott and Hank, who were both different shades of butthole in his script. Marvel's only crossover mandate at the time was including SHIELD in Hank's backstory.
>>Jon Favreau left Iron Man 3 because he was fed up working with Feige on the new universe
He left because Iron Man 2 was rushed into production by Ike Perlmutter to capitalize on the runaway success of the first movie, not giving Favreau enough time to iron out the script to his liking. He still produced, starred in and collaborated on the script for Iron Man 3.
Jenkins started shooting Thor the Dark World but was told they'd have to incorporate Avengers 2 stuff
Jenkins never filmed anything, she quit pretty early on due to Marvel not liking her script and she refusing to budge on her ideas.
>asked if he could use Thanos but not to worry they wouldn't be in the Avengers.
Gunn specifically didn't want to use Thanos.
>James Gunn was told he was safe with GoTG but asked if he could use Thanos but not to worry they wouldn't be in the Avengers. Film became so popular they immediately went back on that.
Not true. Thanos was the original villain before Gunn got involved, when he did he used Roman instead. Thanos was added back to the film after The Avengers came out.
>have an awful time on Doctor Who due to mental health issues, not being properly sold on the role until the end, and producer frickery
>get blacklisted from British TV for it
>move over to the States to find work
>have an awful time on ridiculous films like GI Joe: The Rise of Cobra and Thor: The Dark World due to not being properly sold on the roles and producer frickery
>trudge back home
JUST
Its a shame how shafted Eccleston has been. The guy is so good. I still go back to watch The Second Coming every once in a while.
It's just depressing, honestly. He's a great performer but he just got massively fricked over by the system on both sides of the pond. At least he still has his theatre stuff, and his blacklisting ended some years back now.
Such is the grim fate of all TV sci-fi actors.
It's even worse if you're a Doctor Who veteran, because it means, since you have no other opportunities, you'll inevitably get scooped up by Big Finish and forced to do naff audio dramas for quick steady cash until your dying days.
>Such is the grim fate of all TV sci-fi actors.
ENTER
Some people can escape the curse
Agreed, but to a certain extent it's also on him. He likes to come in, do a season or maybe even just a couple of episodes and then bounce. Thing is he's really good and people end up enjoying watching him so, keep trying to force him into contracts and things he's not down with in order to keep working
Thats a fair point. He's not gonna come on and do four-five seasons, which is what would really propel him.
He did three seasons on The Leftovers.
That was after both Dr. Who and Thor, it's also like the only time that has happened in his career with the exception of something called The A Word where he's there for the entire thing (2016-2020). Considering it's 6 episodes a season though that likely explains it since it doesn't really get in the way of him doing something else
>has no choice but to do comic conventions for money despite thinking the people there are pathetic
GIGAJUST
It seems like an especially shitty fate for someone who was in Trek or Dr Who. Those fans are fricking awful
he wasn't blacklisted, he worked less in the UK, principally doing narration and radio, because he was trying to break into the US market, and he did a lot better than most at that
again if he were blacklisted he'd still be blacklisted, that's what that means, it doesn't end
it's easy money if you're a big enough name, it's not like he guested on Blake's 7 and ended up sucking dick for drinks in the boozer round the corner from Thurrock Town Hall's First Annual Grand Science-Fiction and Fantasy Convention, attendance 17
Eccleston's claimed he was blacklisted by the BBC after he fell out with them on Doctor Who. Obviously, he's done work for the BBC since, so it's debateable as to how serious that alleged blacklisting was, but you can look at his filmography and see that after Doctor Who in 2005, it's a couple of years before he gets any work in America, and it's 6 years after DW until he returns to British TV:
>“What happened around Doctor Who almost destroyed my career,” he says. “I gave them a hit show and I left with dignity and then they put me on a blacklist. I was carrying my own insecurities as it was something I had never done before and then I was abandoned, vilified in the tabloid press and blacklisted. I was told by my agent at the time: ‘The BBC regime is against you. You’re going to have to get out of the country and wait for regime change.’ So I went away to America and I kept on working because that’s what my parents instilled in me. My dad always said to me: ‘I don’t care what you do – sweeping the floor or whatever you’re doing – just do the best job you can.’ I know it’s cliched and northern and all that bollocks, but it applies."
https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2018/mar/11/christopher-eccleston-macbeths-very-insecure-about-his-masculinity-i-am-most-men-are
>that's what that means, it doesn't end
No, it isn't. There's no definition of blacklist that says it has to be permanent. The Hollywood blacklist of the 50s wasn't a permanent thing, either, but it was still a blacklist (and a far more tangible, properly career-destroying one than what Eccleston claims happened to him)
>My dad always said to me: ‘I don’t care what you do – sweeping the floor or whatever you’re doing – just do the best job you can.’ I know it’s cliched and northern and all that bollocks, but it applies."
Norfmen keep on winning
people really underrate the money people get from conventions
>Christopher Eccleston
He was Kino in Heroes and 28 Days later
He was super kino in the leftovers.
at least the Queen is dead now.
Thank goodness for small mercies
>easily the best actor in 28 Days Later
>but he still sucks ass because of the dogshit screenplay and dialogue
>carries Shallow Grave on his back
>but it's still a Danny Boyle movie, so it's like winning the paralympics
Ouch. Poor guy, thankfully he had the Leftovers to show he has the chops. Ewan McGregor and Robert Carlyle never got thic lucky.
>Talk shit about all your employers the moment you stop working for them
>Call all your commercial films "prostitute work" despite barely being an B-lister when even very few A-listers can afford that
He brought it on himself.
I saw the movies he was in but I had to look up both the actor and the character to try and remember any of this and I still don't. Guess he didn't leave much of an impression.
>wants to play a nazi more
Hmmmmm
They told this homie he had a 6 picture contract
Got killed off real fast in cap 3
Yeah I'd be pissed too
Yeah that is funny when you think about it
Having a six-picture contract doesn't mean they will use you for six movies.
How come they never used the cool villains with masks and kept in using the old white guys in business suits
Because of the liberal/feminist "white men are evil" message. People don't seem to understand: all entertainment is positively infested with lefties who promote their viewpoint over decent entertainment. They literally are trying to brainwash viewers into seeing things their way. Every show and movie has to contain and promote their values so as to normalize their way of thinking.
MCU remained popular for nearly a decade, so I'd say they did a pretty good job at providing decent entertainment.
He should have been Frank.
He is Frank.
We're all Frank.
let me be frank
Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn
The MCU doesn't like to reuse villains for some reason, despite it being a big thing in comics themselves. Well, except for Loki that is, but he's basically a good guy now if things in his show keep progressing they way they are.
With how many villains there are (or were) in the MCU, i'm assuming it's because it would be too confusing for general audiences to keep up with how many villains there are, which one are alive or dead, or the relationships those villains have with the heros.
Also it's more of an incentive to see a new movie if it has a new villains as opposed to seeing the same ones recycled.
>im assuming it would be too confusing for general audiences to keep up with how many villains there are
>also it's more of an incentive to see a new movie if it has new villains instead of reusing the same ones
shit excuse, with a franchise as big as marvel it's expected people watch at least the better half of their movies, or it would be if the mcu hadn't become so unbearably worthless after endgame
plus it's only natural to reintroduce characters villains or not, killing off newly introduced villains every movie is partially why the mcu is such dogshit now
pic related
The MCU could easily bring Ultron back. Just say he had a backup body somewhere this whole time, give it a better design than last time, and now he's gonna try and kill the world again. Boom, easy. Always having a backup is practically his whole thing in the comics.
The only issue is whether James Spader would come back but I suppose if not, they could always just stoop to using Ross Marquand as a soundalike again. Spader would probably be worried they'd give him a bunch of Whedon quips to read again.
they wont, it would be really kino if they did but i just dont see it happening, at least without any major flaws or strings attached
and with there being no iron man now to hold the same grudge he did he'll bake cupcakes with ironheart because if he doesnt he'll be cancelled on twitter
>The only issue is whether James Spader would come back but I suppose if not
Did he ever say he didn't like doing it? Spader is a great actor who treats acting more like a job than an "art form", I doubt he'd refuse to come back
Nah put Ultron in a new body but toss him in space. Nu Guardians fight him and recruit Thor and some others.
Just get some other character to try and repurpose Ultron. And then we get the new Ultron without the proto-Stark personality.
You don't even need to BS a new body. Vision explicitly says in the movie that destroying a unique life form like Ultron is something he's not comfortable with, and in the confrontation with the final Ultron drone, he blasts him offscreen. It could easily be said that he didn't actually hit him.
Ultron was hot steaming shit, anon.
never said he wasnt, doesnt mean he couldn't have been fixed for another movie
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SuperheroMovieVillainsDie
That works for self-contained stories like Raimi's Spider-Man or Burton/Nolan Batman movies.
For MCU, especially with how lackluster their villains are in the first place, it feels like squandering the potential to develop them more.
Excellent point.
It'd just give the people screeching about muh formula more ammo.
>See? Now they're reusing villains too!!! So unoriginal!!!!
Usually comics themselves get away with this by having the villain do something new. The antagonist is just a means to an end, something that needs to be defeated. I mean, just look at how generically evil Emperor Palpatine is. Every evil tyrant trope rolled into one. But everyone loves Palpy because he's always got a new scheme.
i would rather take marvel or dc's fictional and unbelievable lack of a death penalty and bring that into the movies over whatever shitty writing goes on with marvel movies now
People hated when he came back, so no.
People hated everything in those movies because they were purposefully shit.
The villains are usually big name, A-list actors who don't want to be tied down to repeat performances. Tom Hiddleston as Loki is the exception that proves the rule, since Loki is what made Hiddleston famous to begin with. Aside from him, most every single MCU villain has either been an already-established big name or an up and comer
So you're saying the MCU should have been like DCEU where every villain is Zod?
the mcu should have been like the marvel comics and true to their original stories, with as little sidetrack frickery as possible
there's so much potential with characters that expands beyond being worth 1 film and the producers insist they be dealt with permanently in the same movie they're introduced in rather than exploring as much with the character as possible
imagine if we got civil war 2 if we just kept iron man and captain america alive, or endgame but all the heros vs all the villains, instead we get stuck with this uncanon displaced bullshit and the audience's only source of good content comes from suckling from the teet of the spider man movies, gotg, and the occasional series published by the monopoly of an organization known as disney on their shitty subscription service disney+, and the good in the mcu dies more by every release
Did people even like any of the MCU villains? I doubt most people wouldn't even be able to recognize most of them, barring Spider-Man's rogue gallery.
classic villains like abomination, red skull and loki were cool, thanos is the only big villains i can say with certainty was awesome, squidward (ebony maw) was really good but because he died so soon he's underrated
mcu was good with the character designs at first but started getting progressively worse as time went on, absolutely frick the nanotech trend and kang can put that multiversal war to good use and shove 500 billion dicks up his butthole
As someone who liked TIH, I've been waiting since 2008 to see Blonsky again.
People could rant on about how MCU mistreated the Hulk for hours, but holy shit Abomination got fricked over hard. Shang Chi actually gave me hope at the time, then the shitty She-Hulk series turns him into a lame hippie cult leader who's nothing like he used to be.
I don’t understand how they didn’t just do a Hulk sequel. They could’ve even used it as a jumping off point to introduce She-Hulk.
Universal
Until very recently they couldn't without involving Universal and while they'll do that for Spider-Man they're not gonna do that for the Hulk after two movies that barely made a profit
Even though they probably should.
sorry for your loss anon
>then the shitty She-Hulk series turns him into a lame hippie cult leader who's nothing like he used to be.
And then She-Hulk demands that Blonsky be arrested and be made to pay for his crime when he had nothing to do with the She-Hulk Hate Club that stole her DNA.
Thanks for reminding me of evil redditors.
Now I also remember that Ulysses Klaue was mentioned to be a member of Intelligentsia which sounded ominous at the time considering the comic-book implications, but now it just makes him a redditor. Way to somehow retroactively ruin a villain who had nothing to do with your show.
The funny thing is that this action from Jen is so petty and vindictive that a character like Wong has zero qualms just breaking him out of prison for good to offer sanctuary at Kamar Taj.
i dont like hollandmans villains
Do you think if Daredevil had been an early MCU movie, they would've killed Kingpin?
I don't know if he had a specifically bad experience on set, but I recall Edward Norton pretty consistently shits on the MCU movies and has since the beginning.
Yeah I saw an interview where he used the word 'Promethean' to describe the journey or arc he had in mind for Hulk. Clearly had higher aspirations for the character than Feige and company.
wouldn't doubt it, everyone knew hulk had potential and edward norton was awesome as him, everyone hates mark ruffalo as hulk but personally i think i enjoyed him in avengers 1 to some extent
everything after that was a complete fricking downgrade though and i would 100% take back edward norton in a heartbeat
actually no, reconsidered and i take it back
unless we followed through with what edward norton wanted the mcu does not deserve him because kevin feige would shrink him down to the nice-guy softie hulk mark ruffalo is now
I've said it before on here, but the first Avengers film is the only time Ruffalo is genuinely trying to act as Banner/Hulk, and he does a pretty good job imo:
>uncannily chill on the outside
>sells the moments where he briefly loses control of his temper as something frightening and potentially nuclear
>gets the meek scientist aspect of Banner down pat
>peak look for CGI Hulk; resembles Ruffalo while not going all-in on his features like later films, and the quality of the CG itself is also better compared to how cartoony later Hulk renditions get
>"I'm always angry"
>"Puny god" I don't care if anyone says it's a Whedon quip, it's still the best one-liner in the film
But that's it. From Age of Ultron onwards, it's just a sad, slide downwards towards Ruffalo becoming this horrible, middle-aged, comic relief version of the Hulk. Ragnarok was the last time Hulk even did anything remotely Hulk-like, and even in that Hulk/Banner is just spouting off jokes half the time. Then we end up with "Professor" Hulk where it's just a big, green Mark Ruffalo doing his worn-out shtick. It's kind of shocking how Marvel just happily neutered one of their most iconic characters like that.
Good point
We probably would've started with Ed Norton from Fight Club and ended up with Ed Norton from a Wes Anderson film
even then too, how hulk progressed as a character will be infinitely more uncanny than how mark ruffalo can act as hulk
>incredible hulk with edward norton
>"i need to find a way to separate myself from the hulk, he's too deranged"
>endgame and so-on hulk with mark ruffalo, actual quote btw
>"For years I've been treating the Hulk like he's some kind of disease, something to get rid of, and then I started looking at him as the cure."
the difference is asinine
No that makes sense since the point is that Norton Hulk was fighting his nature, the movie even ends with him embracing Hulk in a sense but not entirely. Each movie is him just edging towards a better coexistence with Hulk. The problem is that Infinity War ends with that on a low point where they're more at odds than ever with Hulk refusing to even emerge but still existing somehow. Then in Endgame he's the perfect composite with no explanation other than "yeah a lot of shit happened over the timeskip"
fair points i'll admit, accepting him with open arms is bullshit because he should still be an enraged monster fricking things up and things like that but killing him off would also be a screwy move for everyone
i did kind of like what they did with hulk for that time but for that time only, it was logical but completely fricked with all the flaws hulk is supposed to have as a character to be interesting, plus his strength got considerably nerfed
Well if you have Hulk able to make use of Banner's brain you have to nerf his strength. They did the same thing in the comics for merged (Hulk and Banner legitimately combined) and Professor Hulk (Hulk with Banner's brain but a unique personality from regular Savage Hulk or Banner). The only version they don't do this is World breaker/Green Scar Hulk (Hulk and Banner agree it's appropriate to be angry and people need to suffer their anger) as Hulk is both antagonist and protagonist, so it's OK for him to be overwhelmingly powerful.
A good thing the MCU could have done was after the events of Ragnarok with Banner scared to turn into the Hulk he starts working on device to take control of the Hulk using the Grandmaster's control discs. He uses this in Endgame but Thanos destroys it during their fight and so you get a super pissed off Hulk that fights Thanos and still loses. Hulk now refuses to fight because he doesn't trust Banner and he lost a fight when he was the most upset he's ever been. You then use the She-Hulk series to show how Bruce and Hulk made peace as he tries to teach Jen, except Jen doesn't need any of it
as long as we get iron man, captain america, or hulk back the way they originally were i'll be happy, especially hulk
hulk would be a light in the darkness not taking shit from anyone as long as he's pissed off while everyone else would be off in their made up fantasy premise of a storyline
>A good thing the MCU could have done was after the events of Ragnarok with Banner scared to turn into the Hulk he starts working on device to take control of the Hulk using the Grandmaster's control discs. He uses this in Endgame but Thanos destroys it during their fight and so you get a super pissed off Hulk that fights Thanos and still loses. Hulk now refuses to fight because he doesn't trust Banner and he lost a fight when he was the most upset he's ever been. You then use the She-Hulk series to show how Bruce and Hulk made peace as he tries to teach Jen, except Jen doesn't need any of it
This would have been great.
Yeah, but it was not meant to be. They hired people to write a She-Hulk show who publicly and proudly admit they can't write a legal dramedy. 1) Then don't pitch that show, 2) If you are going to pitch it then learn to do it. Like just look up old Ally McBeal and Suits episodes to find a coherent plot and go
The writers behind She-Hulk were too lazy to do any research. It's disgraceful.
It always seemed to me like the MCU just had 10 years of character development for the Hulk all happen of screen
Smart Hulk and proffesor Hulk is a good endgame for the character but the journey towards that deals with Banners other personalities and his traumas from his father have been all but skipped
if the MCU truly didnt want to do something with Hulk in a solo sense but still wanted some development for his character they should have tried something like EMH did for Hulk
a new personality that basicly has the short tempered and brutish attitude of savage Hulk but smart enough to make coherent sentences and try to go his own path and make his own decisions wich always puts him at odds with Banner who hopes the Hulk sets aside his disdain for humanity for the greater good
Wasn't Hulk supposed to have a storyline in Endgame but it was cut for Captain Marvel?
for some reason that prostitute she-hulk and her tasteless 4th wall break got scripted to skip over numerous important details including
>planet hulk, which seemingly now has already happened iirc
and
>any explanation on hulk's son skaar
im convinced these buttholes just do not give a lick of a frick for hulk and, given the opportunity, would rather do a 2nd she-hulk twerk for internet points now
>if the MCU truly didnt want to do something with Hulk in a solo sense but still wanted some development for his character they should have tried something like EMH did for Hulk
a new personality that basicly has the short tempered and brutish attitude of savage Hulk but smart enough to make coherent sentences and try to go his own path and make his own decisions wich always puts him at odds with Banner who hopes the Hulk sets aside his disdain for humanity for the greater good
That's exactly what they should have done. Because the way they did it doesn't make the Endgame feel earned.
Well that happens in the comics too, where Banner and Hulk make peace, but it's after a lot of work, work the MCU just decided to have happen off camera
Mark Ruffalo really gets Banner/Hulk. Shame the MCU doesn't.
Mark ruffalo probably stopped acting good as hulk/banner because he found out he wasn’t gonna get a solo movie. Disney doesn’t own the film rights for a solo hulk movie. That’s why they haven’t done one.
>everyone hates mark ruffalo as hulk
No, they don't.
they do if they've ever cared about the source material and whatever twink material hulk is now
*and not whatever twink material hulk is now
i need to double check what i send more often istg
From everything I see and hear about him, Norton seems like a smug pseud butthole.
Probably true, but I would've preferred his influence on the character over whatever the hell Ruffalo is going for post AoU
Same here.
Like any "prestige actor"
Norton wants characters to not be moralgays. Disney wants Hulk to be mentally handicapped instead of the loner with rage issues he's portrayed in comics
I liked his Hulk movie.
Norton could genuinely hate black people and believe in /misc/ schizo babble, his Banner was 100x better than a monotone, deaf man playing him.
id be mad too if i was denied of potential pay
Lizzie Olsen was saying recently that she regrets signing such a long, multi-picture deal when she first joined the MCU because it meant she didn't get to really do anything else for about 8 years, even going as far as to say that any up and coming actor being offered a Marvel role should just stick to doing one movie at first, and that she's more or less done playing Scarlet Witch now.
It makes me wonder how much of her opinion has to do with the awful treatment Wanda got in Dr Strange 2.
Boo-fricking-hoo? I'm pretty confidant that the Marvel movies financially set her and the other leads up for life, assuming they don't go crazy with spending. Once she pulls out she can pick and choose whatever smaller roles she wants.
Given what she and others have said, I get the feeling that making MCU movies is really fun for like the first 2 or 3 then a complete pain after that.
You're bulking up for like 4 weeks to do some of the most unfulfilling acting out there at this point and either getting flung around like a ragdoll or watching someone get flung around like a ragdoll and you're on a soundstage that in recent years is just a sea of fricking green
Frankly, it sounds like a living hell but the money is great
I think there comes a point where all the running around in silly costumes on dull green/bluescreened sets loses the charm it may have once had. It probably doesn't help when, outside of the CGI action scenes, they might just decide on a whim to start writing your character poorly
I hate how the mainline MCU outside of the Guardians of the Galaxy projects doesn't use practical effects.
I've never understood actors that complain about getting steady work.
She probably wants more prestigious and diversified roles not to be eternally known and pigeonholed as wanda/scarlet witch
Some of them just think the perfect role is owed to them and they should be winning awards for every one of their performance because they're so fricking good.
I'm much more respectful towards someone like Samuel L Jackson, who didn't let movies like Pulp Fiction cause his head to go directly up his ass. He treats it like a job, and the check for Snakes on a Plane clears just as good as any other.
I mean, it's a pretty mild statement. Basically boils down to "eight years is a long goddamn time to play the same character in greenscreen quipslop so if you ever end up where I was don't get blinded by the paycheck".
the big budget shit is to pay the bills while they do indie shit they want to, but marvel can go "you have to tell indie darling director no, we have you scheduled to be in front of a green screen for three months while that's filming"
Probably more to do with limiting the roles she could take outside the MCU when she couldn't change her look or body because she had to be Wanda at a moment's notice. Hugh Jackman was mentioned as looking forward to gorging on cheesecake after playing Wolverine for so long and maintaining that level of fitness. And it probably shafted her in contract negotiations since she was locked in for so long, and the movies just got more popular.
>awful treatment Wanda got in Dr Strange 2.
I think she had fun. I remember hearing she kept the Wanda statue. I don't think she necessarily dislikes the role so much as the contrects, which I don't blame her. I remember in the flash the girl who played Iris West had a similar situation with the delay of the movie Justice League not being able to take roles during production only her scenes to be cut.
>I think she had fun.
She did, but Wandagays grasp at any straws they can to screech about evil Wanda.
>Grillo
what is he, an oven cleaner
I havent seen any marvel film since guardians o the galaxy 2. I skipped everything in between that and iron man 1.
What kind of mongrel watches a sequel before watching the first movie?
I only saw the movie because I liked the soundtrack. The movie was ok although I felt some parts were forced. I didn't even need to watch the 1st one everything made sense anyway.
The first one is actually better.
Fairpoint, Crossbones was done really dirty.
He's right, what the frick were they thinking?!
Surprised no one has brought up the classic Terrence Howard.
>Terrence Howard
wasnt he going to play war machine? he wasnt memorable at all but i doubt he'd be willing to stick with marvel unless he was really in it for the money
>Red Skull became an exposition machine who feels bad
they arent going to do anything with him because "oh no! nazism!" are they
>Crossbones died almost immediately
that scene and the hate wanda got to create the premise for the movie felt so forced
>Zemo is barely in civil war
the fact he was going to off himself by the end of the movie, lol
>Captain Ameri-
HIS NAME IS FALCON
>everything else
the mcu has fallen, we still better get red hulk and us agent better become a chad
i dont think so no, they didnt kill off abomination or loki so that should have meant something
newest captain america is falcon, should have specified
i will always call him falcon because he's not captain america
I mean, they ditched Red Skull's nazism almost immediately in TFA to the point that Hydra was its own thing merely operating as a branch of Nazi Germany but with no ties to their ideology. They're even less nazi than Hellsing's Millenium because at least those kept the swastikas.
>Loki
I read somewhere it's because they wanted to originally but liked Hiddleston's performance too much.
Not really. Skull didn’t ditch the nazism, he enhanced it. He was too extreme even for them. He was literally a super nazi. His whole thing was wiping out everyone, even Nazis, and start all over with superior people.
He absolutely did get robbed. The MCU completely and utterly fricked up Cap’s rogues gallery, it’s infuriating.
>Red Skull gets teleported away, then only shows up way later (not against Cap) to be an exposition machine who feels bad now
>Crossbones can’t handle Steve one on one, gets set up as a villain in the third one, dies almost immediately
>Zemo is barely in Civil War, acts nothing like the character, then comes back as le quirky foreign man who sometimes wears the mask
>Flag Smasher is not-Antifa
>Arnim Zola is a lackey in the first movie, then gets 5 minutes in the second movie
>Baron Strucker unceremoniously dies early in Avengers 2
>Instead of using Red Skull, Zola, or Faustus, the main villain of Winter Soldier is Alexander Pierce, a generic SHIELD character that typically helped Iron Man
>The newest Captain America movie is going to use a Hulk villain instead
New Serpent Society is Brave New World
And he was one of the incredibly few times a villain was in a costume and mask, and not just some guy in normal clothes. 90% of MCU villains are just typical guys in common clothes, if they have a mask they only wear it for like 8 seconds like Zemo
Isn't the Terrance Howard story, more or less, that whe they cast Iron-Man, Howard was a bigger name than the swung-low RDJ, despite his Oscar nomination in 1992, him being washed-up recovering addict put him just that much lower on the totems pole, and that Howard got paid more than him for the movie. And thus, when it blew up, they bumped RDJ's pay for the sequel, and Howard wanted his take to be raised proportionally to the original movie's scheme? If RDJ was paid 10 and Howard was paid 20, then bumping RDJ to 50 would make Howard's pay 100.
The studio was like nope, get out of here.
think i heard the same story, would be a good reason to tell him to frick off given he isnt the main character but higher pay for famous or better actors is also how it works with production
who tf came up with the name "U.S. Agent" anyways
a name like "Agent America" sounds infinitely better for whatever his moronic debut series featuring fake captain america incel bucky was
>featuring fake captain american AND incel bucky
god fricking damn it
comparison isnt even a contest either, whatever this character was meant to be didnt even have a chance to shine because he looks like a dumbass loser no one would take seriously within the mcu if it werent for the fact he got a little bit of some dude's blood on captain america's shield
I think it's supposed to be read as "Yoo Ess Ayy(pause)gent". A commie equivalent would be less USSmoron and more USSRYouFrickingSerious
Let's not pretend KGBeast and NKVDemon don't exist.
>You think this "A" on my head stands for "Aussie"?
yeah i think so too but it's so plain it's the only redeeming quality that makes it somewhat bearable, even making the name USAGENT like some sort of code name would be cooler, and at least "Agent America" tells you he's supposed to be captain america but more connected to the government
You guys are moronic
It's just a play on the name of the USA by combining the last initial with the start of 'Agent'
that's what we were saying dumbass read the conversation before replying
>who tf came up with the name "U.S. Agent" anyways
He was a big marketing play from the u.s. government in the comics. Kinda like having "terrorists" blow up the WTC on 9/11.
How many fricking characters do they think can actually earn center stage in the MCU? Who is even the lead right now?
I mean they probably wanted Chadwick to be a big part going forward but even assuming he was still there, the frick were they expecting?
He said he enjoys doing Transformers 5: The Last Knight, compared to all the movies where he acts as Odin.
Like, he enjoys working with Michael Bay, in contrast with all the MCU, and later the older man; shut up, everyone winning a freaking Oscar and having almost 100 years old.
And also said working with Zack Snyder on Rebel Moon was the most acting experience he had in years.
>Rebel Moon
Jajaja, I don't blame him, like the MCU was him just standing in a room full of green and nothing else; even though he is old, he is still an actor.
>he phoned it in for Westworld
ahahaha eat a dick ennis
I meant the best acting experience.
>allergic to cats
>plays cosmic cat lady
He has every right to be mad, he got robbed.