It's because your average generic frickhead artist thinks it's a threat to their livelyhood.
Ignoring the hypocrisy of a group of people who've spent the last 20 years smugly telling coal miners to learn2code getting a salty vegana when technology comes for their shit? It is a threat.
To Generic artists specifically. Any artist with their own style is going to find it very easy to do shit like commissions going forward. Say what you like about, for example, Shadman, but he's got his own style and while people can train an AI using his current work all he's got to do is keep producing work and train his own, more accurate one and they won't have a patch on it.
At which point he'll be able to produce any art he likes, in his style, or at least the foundations for a piece.
Now look at OP artist and his genericfrickheadapaloozah style.
Do you really think he won't be replaced the picosecond someone can get commissions done without having to put up with his bullshit? His self-indulgence? His inane homosexualry and insistence on being paid well out of proportion with his capabilities for doing work when he's got the work ethic of a French Nobleman Circa 17th Century?
No. They'll take the AI every time and suddenly he's not an auteur who people have to endure the capricious whims of if they want futafurrywienervore or whatever, but some shithead in what is suddenly a buyers market and acting less reliable and more unstable than the Chernobyl Reactor is no longer put up with.
Mark my words, it's not even about the money, it's about the fact he'll never be able to not be ass mad about people no longer having to put up with his bullshit or having to act professionally instead of playing 'Le tortured artiste'.
Where are you getting this idea that artists were the ones telling people "learn2code"? Those coding programs were being pushed by government and corporate institutions in an effort to funnel people into "productive" jobs. Imagine if artists even got half that attention and institutional support to transition into a different job field. Artist as a job category has always been the butt of jokes as you can see in the starving artist image that often gets played up.
When you make wild assumptions about artists and coal miners and coding it comes off as projection for your own insecurities.
A pol infograph about huffinton post articles and the transitive property: >This media outlet is leftist and said this >I hate "artists" because I think they're leftist >Artists also think this.
Except the truth is "artists" are actually the tradesmen they claim are so vital. They learned a specific skill they do with their hands. Isn't that what they're supposed to be doing?
what they really mean is jobs where things that are heavy are carried and the people who work them look like people in ads that would be their ideal father figure.
no see /misc/cucks are mindbroken little sharties who would literally laugh and mock every welder in america if the right decided tomorrow that all welders were actually libs, that welding is a leftist trade and you're a commie for welding.
Anon refuses to admit that pretending stem was the only viable path to employment was the standard move of conservatives for the past century and everyone in the universe knew it. Stupid homosexuals like him constantly trot out this claim that it was artists telling people to get stem jobs despite the fact that that wouldn't make any sense for them to say.
It takes away potential customers' dependence on waiting for an artist's lazy ass to stop "closing" commissions and mooching off patreon to charge $100 for ms paint drawings
>waiting for an artist's lazy ass to stop "closing" commissions
this is such a strange thing to be angry about. You're mad that...you can't pay them to draw your art idea? I've seen this sentiment alot and it's so strange to me.
I’ll be honest with you. It’s a mixture of the idea that the corporations who already underpay us will use it as an excuse to pay even less and that proponents of it act like we should enjoy art being automated when it’s the process of creation that we enjoy.
Also people don’t really get that constantly scraping art to regurgitate some new Ai slop only leads to blander and blander products.
If you actually enjoy creating art AI existing isn't changing it. What you might be losing is admiration of your twitter friends. And art scene was bland slop for a long time. Frankly if for ability to see godzilla running for an us president or bugs bunny joining isis I have to sacrifice livelyhood of pompous pricks drawing shitty fanart then I'm more than willing.
>. Frankly if for ability to see godzilla running for an us president or bugs bunny joining isis I have to sacrifice livelyhood of pompous pricks drawing shitty fanart then I'm more than willing.
but effectively you just want AI to be a fanart machine.
Because most charge outrageous prices for commissions for drawings, and AI can already cover most people’s needs for commissions.
So they get extremely angry when you mention AI art.
same reason they seethed during the invention of photography
same reason they seethed when some artists rediscovered perspective in the middle ages
same reason they seethed when Egyptian nobles started to prefer more realistic portraits for their tombs instead of the cookie-cutter traditional flat designs
and into infinity
ancient cavemen probably screamed when someone tried to depict an aurochs differently from their particular stylization and in the future people will start screaming that newer artists are using a less-traditional original internet-scraping plagiarizing algorithm to realize their prompts or if they start using code instead of text based prompts to tell the modeling system what to do more directly (cheaters!) or some other ridiculous nonsense..
AI Pajeets are to art as NFT gays are to Vidya. Which is to say, they represent a very specific kind of small souled bugman who, despite having no interest, passion, love, or experience with a community, thinks that some newfangled tech will be their one-way ticket to instant fame and riches.
With NFTs and vidya, these dumb homosexuals were pitching shovelware software and ideas that already existed, except worse, barely playable, and made entirely from unity and unreal store default assets and templates. Maybe some of them knew they were just making a scam, but some morons really though it was just that easy to make a Triple-A MMO, and somehow no one with any more skill than them had tried to pull it off. Instead of seeing a desolate path that led to a dead end, they foolishly believed that they'd found the shortcut to industry-controlling success.
AI Pajeets have a similar stink about them. They have no creativity. No original ideas. They've never wanted to write a story or draw anything before... and now they're showing up and thinking it will be SO EASY to dethrone every artist more skilled and experienced than them with tech that they don't understand well enough to develop on their own. Exactly like the NFT gays who believed NFTs could do things they were verifiably, objectively never able to do and would never work, AI gays don't know enough about the tech they're using nor do they know enough about art in any way to understand that even if they could make better AI images by actually learning to use Stable Diffusion, they don't have the actual knowhow or skill to do anything meaningful with it.
the most telling thing is how all the AI projects we've seen just seem like the product of someone's who's entire pop culture diet is the most popular movies, video games, and concept art for both. It's always shit like >there was a girl >and..a robot >and it was..the future >and lots of cool lighting effects!
or sometimes just plain >Something but CGI movie
>It's such a cool technology, and yet they do nothing but shun it nonstop.
Because it just keeps generating shit, and even when it makes something halfway decent it still doesn't give me the picture I had in my head. To get that I have to actually draw it. Let me know when you can plug the AI into your brain and have it actually see what you want to put on the page, with no prooompting bullshit. Only then will it be useful.
I mean... Brain reading is already possible. Granted it needs MRI scans to recreate an image, so it's not some sci-fi instant automagic process. But it's probably not likely you're gonna be able to get enough brain information with anything less than an MRI.
But the tech is already theoretically possible. It's just a matter of improving the models and getting more information out of the brain.
I can't fricking wait. Now the only thing left is for someone to come up with some kind of desktop AI art generator - brain-scan capable or not - because this subscription bullshit and the accompanying censorship is not acceptable to me. I want to create what I want when I want it and not have to keep forking over money to some conglomerate every time I generate something.
>Now the only thing left is for someone to come up with some kind of desktop AI art generator - brain-scan capable or not - because this subscription bullshit and the accompanying censorship is not acceptable to me.
Holy fricking shit, Stable Diffusion already exists, you can download it right now. I can even run it on my shitty 15 year old potato computer. Yes it is very slow, yes it takes some learning to setup, yes you need a decent GPU and RAM, and even more learning to get decent non-shitty images. It's open source so it doesn't have an army of paid scientists working round the clock to make it idiot proof. But it exists.
Do people not fricking search for shit at all anymore? Do you just throw your arms in the air in defeat and say "I heard about the Microsoft AI, so that must be the only one ever, hahaha! I better not have an independent curious thought and see what other options are out there!"
It's not just artgays. Even normal people don't want their individual rights taken away. Remember, copyrights is something we all have. Ai gaslighting you that it's okay to have communism without the original artist's opinions is not a valid excuse to allow art theft. It affects you and me. Everyone's art in how's your webcomic threads and art threads are all copyrighted by the individual person. Ownership is a powerful human basic right. Talking about artgays is a strawmans because it's the people's power that gets threatened
>Remember, copyrights is something we all have
Copyright is an elaborate system is legal bullshit created to protect large corporations. Making you believe that you need the copyright system to protect you is a way to make you simp for the RIAA and MPAA as they create more and more draconian legislation that protects them and further takes away what dwindling rights you think you still have.
No it isn't you fricking moron. Copyright is an automatic passive right every single person possesses at all times. Copyright expiration is an entirely different matter.
ai model has the same right and ability to use your work and incorporate into it's knowledge base, all of it's outputs can not be protected
only thing strengthening copyright laws protect is the corporate monopoly over ai datasets
Which is to say it does not have those rights because profiting from someone else's copyright is illegal, especially for the person feeding information to the AI.
Copyright is legal fiction, it is not an inherent right.
RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS is more of an inherent right (in USA) and you homosexuals have no trouble questioning it.
ai model has the same right and ability to use your work and incorporate into it's knowledge base, all of it's outputs can not be protected
only thing strengthening copyright laws protect is the corporate monopoly over ai datasets
Are you moronic? Rules and regulations have always existed for stuff made by people, why would this be any different?
5 months ago
Anonymous
Because on the ai side are the current most richest and powerful corpo entities to ever exist, and the progress of ai has military application beyond your petty non existent art career, let alone the fate of humanity.
Whatever happens, artgay concerns will be minimal, you don't matter.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>they're too powerful bro, you should just eat the bugs and own nothing and be happy since it's gonna happen anyway
no
5 months ago
Anonymous
you will own nothing, and be unhappy them
5 months ago
Anonymous
They fight the powa! I bet everyone is going to care deeply about your job getting automated when they didn't about ones way more important.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Is ai physically stopping you from drawing?
Art world changed when camera came out, magazine became popular, then when WWW came out.
You too will adapt, or not, and just chill and draw as always.
Nobody is going to give up on a miracles new technology just because you find it unfair.
"ai-bros' are but dingleberries in the wide giant butthole of modern technology that has been pooping on humanity for good and ill for ~200 years, you'll get used to it.
I don't want to draw shit, I just don't want all the media I enjoy to be swallowed up by the endless stream of slop that is coming if someone doesn't pump the breaks. You're outright moronic if you think this shit is gonna improve the media landscape. If anything it's just going to consolidate human-made art even more into the hands of the trust fund babies because they'll be the only ones that can actually afford to spend time on it as a hobby since pretty much all avenues for your average joe to make a living on their art is going to dry up. You morons aren't going to even be able to use your precious AI to make your own slop without forking over some cash since we're currently just in the beta phase and you're providing them free labor by helping troubleshoot the prototypes. The shit that doesn't look like muddy slop is either going to be limited on a subscription basis or limited to the same media companies currently having a stranglehold on the industry since they're the ones investing in this shit. It's going to be the same problems entertainment is currently facing only magnified by an absurd degree. I don't know if it can be stopped but I'm sure as hell not going to encourage it like a moron lemming just because I'm easily impressed by a shitty image gacha.
5 months ago
Anonymous
First of all, media you enjoy are already endless slop. And no one will put on the breaks because there are no breaks. Genie is out of the bottle. So you might just have a nice day already.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Is ai physically stopping you from drawing?
Art world changed when camera came out, magazine became popular, then when WWW came out.
You too will adapt, or not, and just chill and draw as always.
Nobody is going to give up on a miracles new technology just because you find it unfair.
"ai-bros' are but dingleberries in the wide giant butthole of modern technology that has been pooping on humanity for good and ill for ~200 years, you'll get used to it.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Also I can get this image for free in a minute. It's like having a little artist slave on a leash.
I like the tech.
I dislike the fact that the people using it have no apparent ability to filter or curate their generations.
Look at the Dall-3 threads and how you have one anon posting the same a dozen times in a row. Just pick the best one for fricks sake you don't need to share the same picture over and over. At what point does it become spam?
>At what point does it become spam?
It already is spam. What I don't understand is why every goddamn board needs some shitty AI general now. I was on Cinemaphile the other day and even they had the same morons spamming that shit. Why the lazy ass mods and jannies refuse to do anything about the cross-board spam I have no idea.
My guess is a lot of those skate by on technicalities. Someone generates 20 images with minor variations of some Cinemaphile related character but technically they're all "new" content and technically within topic. So all it takes is a couple of people to keep generals going endlessly. That said it's weird how it's more widespread on some boards than others. Maybe some sympathetic mods/jannies? Or implicit acceptance that it makes good engagement bait on some boards?
the inability for autistic morons to visually present their moronic ideas was a good filter for internet quality, that has now been destroyed. soon enough everyone will be sick of seeing the same uninspired shit posted on every corner of the internet, and consumption of art will drop entirely
>the inability for autistic morons to visually present their moronic ideas was a good filter for internet quality, that has now been destroyed.
true >soon enough everyone will be sick of seeing the same uninspired shit posted on every corner of the internet, and consumption of art will drop entirely
lmao, no
there is 5 billion ppl yet to come online and every-single ppl hereafter will think it normal and take it for granted as much as you wee born in the era of web
aside from ppl having shit taste in general and not caring where the milk comes from
I don't know what the frick you're smoking. I'd vastly prefer everyone generating their own weirdo, unique reaction image than the fricking meme templates we used to have back in 2005. "Internet filter" my ass, we've always had generated normie shit. It's just gotten super elaborate now.
As an artgay myself, they feel threatened that they will be made irrelevant. I personally understand AI is the inevitable future and there is no escaping it. Adapt or perish.
>to draw
Lmao, it's to edit and retouch and copypaste ai images, as God intended.
The final technological evolution, the endgame of art is the Photoshop Monkey.
I honestly prefer pencil and paper to digital. The... Well, imperfections and scratchyness of the medium just make the end result look a lot better since your mind is filling in the (small) blanks, and it feels like you've got a lot more control with a pencil than with a stylus, and it feels like only working with a single colour enhances your creativity. Unless you break out the crayola 50-pack. The only downside is my hands get sweaty as frick and I smudge the shit out of the paper.
are ppl losing commissions, actually??
shame, I was gonna start taking them again just get some extra money for gacha games
5 months ago
Anonymous
No but if you have the awareness to notice it won't affect jack shit (seriously, fetish artists often have dedicated commission slot fillers so they won't notice the loss, if anything they'd see less fighting over it) on your end as an artist.
This is entire thing is funny because it's more like how the telephone companies in the 90s probably panicked hearing people could us AOLchat to communicate.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Well, I haven't drawn in a while being busy with work, but I still get messages from my previously customers asking me if I still take coms.
I'll never be anyone's top 10 artgay, but I've never had trouble getting takers since I'm willing to draw anything, so I hope yer right.
As for ai, it's pretty neat, you get the wind knocked out of you for a while, but life goes on.
I had hoped I could make long ass graphic novels with it, but it's still too early for something that useful.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Biggest point being is this is nothing more than panic because the general public has access to it.
We are indeed a far off way from any webcomics, movies, or short animations being made with them. For concept art and other such however? It's going to be supremely relied on since it's easier for anyone producing or developing an idea to get a visual to display.
Because they're probably under 30-years old and this is their first major art world shake-up. They're fricking terrified.
They don't have strong opinions about when the consumer-friendly camera put a bunch of painters out of business. Everyone's had a camera in their pocket for as long as they can remember. You probably use a camera at least once a day to take a picture of your pet. You can't denounce that invention because you don't remember a point in time before it.
They wouldn't dare decry digital programs and how those ended up putting a lot of traditional artists out of business. An overwhelming majority of online artists use a digital program or learned to draw with the aid of these programs + a tablet. They had zero concerns at the time as to whether or not an art supplies store was selling less product. They didn't care about pirating programs, or pirating art books, or watching re-uploaded art classes on YouTube. They got to learn how to draw in a FREE environment, something artists before the 90's didn't get to enjoy.
Now another group of people get to enjoy free shit at the cost of someone else and they fail to see the history repeating. That's what happens when you don't look past a single year beyond when you were born.
>Now another group of people get to enjoy free shit at the cost of someone else and they fail to see the history repeating. That's what happens when you don't look past a single year beyond when you were born.
This. It's terrifying to me just how many people are utterly ignorant of any period of time before they were born.
I don't know what's worse, the people who literally know nothing about before they were born, or the weirdos who fetish some Quixotic fantasy version of what they THINK the 1950's were like, while having been born in the 2000's and never even once actually talked to a human being who was alive in 1950.
Pretty solid point. You used to have to hire photographers to take photos for you since it took a special skill set to operate those huge, primitive cameras. I'm sure many of these people were pissed when cameras became easier to use and anyone could get one
to add to that, Kodak Brownie, disposable film cameras, early point and shoot digicam, and now phone camera... almost every human has one in their pocket now (not to mention they are also shoot movies)
BUT, but none of them compare to the image you can get out of a dedicated camera + lens system used by a professional... just that good enough is good enough.
>Art can only be made by a human
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey_selfie_copyright_dispute
Animals are capable of art, machines can be too. Get over yourself.
You're going to have to stop and think that ANYONE can smother and scratch a drawing instrument, may it be graphite, wax, your own cum, onto a digital or traditional canvas, then calling it art. All the more reason why I'm just a mere hobbyist and humbly welcoming the robo-artists to this plane of existence.
Even if you do earn a large sum of "moola," that can easily be cancelled out by your funeral funds in a way as if nothing of value was gained. And as for those institutions though, it mostly couples that with programming, storyboarding, animation. By itself, it only serves as a charismatic centerpiece and nothing more. Those who proclaim that AI was a mistake are lazy and have a skill issue.
I know everyone likes to meme on food analogies but I still think it fits.
Imagine going to school to cook. Even if you aren't the best cook it can still make you a decent living cooking for other people and working in resturants. Now some guy invents frozen microwave meals where by a push of a button anyone can cook a meal themsleves. The thing is these meals are absolute ass and are literal slop. Now you would think the people would shun such garbage but instead everyone seems to be ok with it and even resturants are replacing their kitchens with microwaves. Now you think "this is only for low teir garbage like fast food" but even the 3 star resturants are replacing their cookes with it and aren't backing down. Even despite the fact that everyone from the customers to the resturant owners know that microwave meals are far from perfect and are putting out awful food not a single one of them seem to give a shit and the new standard in cooking is now frozen mush.
That's what is happening with AI. They are looking to replace humans who actually make good content and art and replacing it with AI who makes garbage.
And this should also be true if he used an art using that artist's comic as a dataset to steal/teach the ai. But technically, he stole the joke, not art
>his fans then harass the original artist
well, yeah, they accused him of art theft. that's like kicking the hornet's nest. also, i don't believe they actually got harassed.
Most artists these days expect you to sell your soul to wokeness. They cry and whine because people can circumvent having to deal with their gross behavior and mentality to have innocent fun. They chose not to develop themselves so that AI is friendly for them.
>. Frankly if for ability to see godzilla running for an us president or bugs bunny joining isis I have to sacrifice livelyhood of pompous pricks drawing shitty fanart then I'm more than willing.
but effectively you just want AI to be a fanart machine.
the irony is lost on aigays, don't bother
There is no irony you picked up from Arvalis without bothering to explain, it's just that most artists lack creativity and so it's not interesting to commission their work.
Remember in 2004 when the two characters in every shitty strawman comic were a fat neckbeard and a smart nerd with glasses? Now it's always a conventionally attractive diverse woman and an obnoxiously but ultimately non-threatening white male twink.
And I should give a shit about these people why? If i'm doing something that makes people I don't like reeeeally upset, I must be doing something right.
>Upsetting me by using AI instead of commissioning my crap is like beating a dog
The most upper middle class shithead opinion ever. Rest assured that nobody else regards you as like a dog
the inability for autistic morons to visually present their moronic ideas was a good filter for internet quality, that has now been destroyed. soon enough everyone will be sick of seeing the same uninspired shit posted on every corner of the internet, and consumption of art will drop entirely
So you hate it because it will fix the disenfranchise of some
By "inspired" you mean inspired by the art Industries
My main project is about AI development. That shows your butthole approach to the internet, you think someone like Adam can completely abuse someone's dreams using it and there's no personal interaction there. I'll email him again as punishment
>his fans then harass the original artist
well, yeah, they accused him of art theft. that's like kicking the hornet's nest. also, i don't believe they actually got harassed.
>They will harass you >But they didn't
Quit contradicting yourself
He's a homosexual hack who uses ctrl+alt+del tier practices....but he's right on this.
Sometimes homosexuals say obvious things that are correct. I'm not going to stop breathing because homosexuals do it all day every day am I?
>HUMAN ART IS BETTER THAN AI ART BECAUSE HUMAN ART HAS SOULLLLL
At the end of the day, everything is just a fricking tool. Ellis was using Photoshop to pump out copy-pasted quick n' easy garbage, and now Jimmy Bimmy is using AI art to do the same shit. Only difference is Jimmy Bimmy didn't have to spend five years practicing like Ellis and that probably upsets him the most.
He dialed down the B^U by a lot since he left that homosexual magazine
it actually took less than a year for people modding AI to fix weird anatomy. if you are using those free AI garbage from google you will still get them tho
funny you think it's artists like Sakimichan or high-tier furry artists suffering, they're chugging along fine. You guys seethe about artists you;d never even pay in the first place.
By all means, show me the fricking artist who is going to take an oil painting commission of Garfield femboy doing his taxes in a burger king. By all means. Link me to that artist and I'll commission shit from them.
>face closeup >face closeup >face closeup >one fricked up hand >face closeup
This could probably be made by an AI and a few minutes in photoshop. I see why this "artist" is afraid of AI.
I like making porn and shitpost images with AI (almost exclusively photographic) that I refuse to consider art, I won't apologize for that. It will never replace learning to actually draw or pose 3d figures.
And the irony of it all is, like the other anon said, AIgays aren't terribly creative and basically everything they make with it is: >a) Hacked out, dull, and derivative >b) Relentlessly commercialized and with the main goal of making money.
It's almost like people who don't want to put in any effort to do things and just want to push a button instant gratification, are actually shitty, uncreative people, who like the idea of being an artist more than actually being an artist, which involves a lot of hard work, dedication, love, and emotional maturity.
Or they're just porn addicts with a greater tolerance than I for fricked up hands and dodgy, uncanny rendering.
>HUMAN ART IS BETTER THAN AI ART BECAUSE HUMAN ART HAS SOULLLLL
At the end of the day, everything is just a fricking tool. Ellis was using Photoshop to pump out copy-pasted quick n' easy garbage, and now Jimmy Bimmy is using AI art to do the same shit. Only difference is Jimmy Bimmy didn't have to spend five years practicing like Ellis and that probably upsets him the most.
His point still stands, at worst he's a hypocrite that happens to be right without following what he preaches. As much of a hack Ellis is at least he's copy and pasting resources he created himself in the first place.
Cheap, lazy, hackiness, garbage, it really doesn't matter how it was produced. Most audiences and consumers are only going to care about the final product, not the lengthy backstory and journey it took to make it. If you put this AI art next to one of Adam Ellis' art pieces, your Average Joe is probably going to say the Pikachu looks cooler. And guess what? The Average Joe is who Ellis is appealing to in the first place with all his comics.
People like him and generic porn artist #2145 or random entry level concept artist don't hate AI art, they fear it. They KNOW their audiences, customers, or potential bosses are just looking for "good enough" and that's all they can supply. Most veterans or artists with an established style and fanbase aren't nearly as triggered by AI art. The former have probably adapted multiple times in their career that they know they can do it again, and the latter know they have something to offer.
a shitty doodle like adventure time is more engaging to people than the most over rendered concept art, because at the end of the day the quality only gets you so far, you need a spark of life to engage people. I don't doubt that AI can do that, but it's separating a lot of chaff from wheat.
A shitty doodle from PEN WARD is more engaging-- because he already has an audience. But if you're going to tell me something like pic related, done by a completely random artist, is going to be MORE engaging than a decent random AI artist piece, I'll just have to disagree. Hell, one of the biggest hurdles on /ic/ for years is that people get upset their nothing art blog filled with a bunch of observation sketches get zero attention because people just don't fricking care.
>But if you're going to tell me something like pic related, done by a completely random artist, is going to be MORE engaging than a decent random AI artist piece,
of course not. Because there is no narrative. you can make an AI narrative and have it be engaging, I'm sure, but if anything is going to make an artist succeed over AI, it's going to be offering some sort of connection beyond "hey neat image"
>separating a lot of chaff from wheat.
this is you, trying to hold on whilst rest of the world get mechanical combines
better get artisanal and have enough patreons before it's actually over, you might have a year or so left, you should get busy, not waste your time arguing with fellow shitposters who don't draw
... you do draw, right anon???
They've both got the stink of speculators and degenerate gamblers and pajeets all trying to make a quick buck trying to jump on "the next big thing", but the technologies are not the same, no.
I would be slightly more positive on AI art if the training models weren’t in a selection of court cases about infringement.
How are those cases progressing, I can’t find much about them except they started months ago?
More broadly I think AI art will eventually get incorporated into the digital workflow as a copying technique for turning detailed hand-made material into a series of seperate images.
Or more hopefully be used to improve interpolation automation for animation. If you can teach an AI program to do squash and stretch and also apply it to the right objects. You vastly reduce the time and cost to make animation.
>Or more hopefully be used to improve interpolation automation for animation. If you can teach an AI program to do squash and stretch and also apply it to the right objects. You vastly reduce the time and cost to make animation.
I think this one has real merit. It's the wholesale generation slop I think most people take umbrage with and for good reason.
Neat. Good to know that images like this are 100% original content and that any coincidental similarities to characters or artstyles of a major company are not relevant for building a copyright claim.
Hitler was a disenfranchised artist.
AI coming for all the artist jobs, which means we'll have tons of disenfranchised artists soon.
Things are gonna get wild.
If speech and art are meant to communicate meaning from a conscious intelligence to another, and we understand that current AIs don't have consciousness, then it stands to reason that AI art or AI writing is a simulacra of intelligent communication. It is a meaningless exchange with on one end a recipient and on the other an unconscious mechanism reflecting what the target of the message wishes to see and what the mechanism has learned will result in engagement (without any real notion of what it's actually saying).
Without human curation and polish, AI anything is nothing but the sound of gears creaking in the void.
Everything about A.I right now feels like a bunch of companies using the public to beta test their products for free, to find any bugs and make improvements. And when they've ground it down to near perfection they're gonna lock it down so the public can't access it anymore (unless you wanna subscribe to it monthly for the lesser version than you got in the first place) AND either sell the products to Amazon, Google and other major tech companies (the other most obvious thing will be they'll be purchased by said tech companies) who will then sell their bullshit to media conglomerates who can then fire thousands of workers so they can save their money for shareholders and overpaid executives who were never and are never going to be hurting for money in the first place.
AI has the stink of major corporate wiener wafting off of it and I'm not playing that game.
No he isn’t
>why won't you bust your ass learning a skill that is going to obsolete
Gee I wonder!
AI art will always look like shit, cope.
The races should be swapped here
Honestly, why do artgays get triggered so badly over AI development? It's such a cool technology, and yet they do nothing but shun it nonstop.
They wanted all the blue collar chuds to have their jobs automated and die in poverty. They didn't think it would happen to them
did they?
It's because your average generic frickhead artist thinks it's a threat to their livelyhood.
Ignoring the hypocrisy of a group of people who've spent the last 20 years smugly telling coal miners to learn2code getting a salty vegana when technology comes for their shit? It is a threat.
To Generic artists specifically. Any artist with their own style is going to find it very easy to do shit like commissions going forward. Say what you like about, for example, Shadman, but he's got his own style and while people can train an AI using his current work all he's got to do is keep producing work and train his own, more accurate one and they won't have a patch on it.
At which point he'll be able to produce any art he likes, in his style, or at least the foundations for a piece.
Now look at OP artist and his genericfrickheadapaloozah style.
Do you really think he won't be replaced the picosecond someone can get commissions done without having to put up with his bullshit? His self-indulgence? His inane homosexualry and insistence on being paid well out of proportion with his capabilities for doing work when he's got the work ethic of a French Nobleman Circa 17th Century?
No. They'll take the AI every time and suddenly he's not an auteur who people have to endure the capricious whims of if they want futafurrywienervore or whatever, but some shithead in what is suddenly a buyers market and acting less reliable and more unstable than the Chernobyl Reactor is no longer put up with.
Mark my words, it's not even about the money, it's about the fact he'll never be able to not be ass mad about people no longer having to put up with his bullshit or having to act professionally instead of playing 'Le tortured artiste'.
Where are you getting this idea that artists were the ones telling people "learn2code"? Those coding programs were being pushed by government and corporate institutions in an effort to funnel people into "productive" jobs. Imagine if artists even got half that attention and institutional support to transition into a different job field. Artist as a job category has always been the butt of jokes as you can see in the starving artist image that often gets played up.
When you make wild assumptions about artists and coal miners and coding it comes off as projection for your own insecurities.
Butthurt artist spotted
A pol infograph about huffinton post articles and the transitive property:
>This media outlet is leftist and said this
>I hate "artists" because I think they're leftist
>Artists also think this.
Except the truth is "artists" are actually the tradesmen they claim are so vital. They learned a specific skill they do with their hands. Isn't that what they're supposed to be doing?
what they really mean is jobs where things that are heavy are carried and the people who work them look like people in ads that would be their ideal father figure.
also the workers need to be right wing
this is very important, otherwise they don't count
>pol
>"artists" are actually the tradesmen they claim are so vital
Brain so soft and smooth that it's literally pudding.
Goddamn, why are Cinemaphilemblrgays like you allowed to exist?
no see /misc/cucks are mindbroken little sharties who would literally laugh and mock every welder in america if the right decided tomorrow that all welders were actually libs, that welding is a leftist trade and you're a commie for welding.
/misc/ has always been at war with east asia.
Anon refuses to admit that pretending stem was the only viable path to employment was the standard move of conservatives for the past century and everyone in the universe knew it. Stupid homosexuals like him constantly trot out this claim that it was artists telling people to get stem jobs despite the fact that that wouldn't make any sense for them to say.
Besides, it was homosexual journalists and politicians who trot out that line.
It takes away potential customers' dependence on waiting for an artist's lazy ass to stop "closing" commissions and mooching off patreon to charge $100 for ms paint drawings
>waiting for an artist's lazy ass to stop "closing" commissions
this is such a strange thing to be angry about. You're mad that...you can't pay them to draw your art idea? I've seen this sentiment alot and it's so strange to me.
I’ll be honest with you. It’s a mixture of the idea that the corporations who already underpay us will use it as an excuse to pay even less and that proponents of it act like we should enjoy art being automated when it’s the process of creation that we enjoy.
Also people don’t really get that constantly scraping art to regurgitate some new Ai slop only leads to blander and blander products.
If you actually enjoy creating art AI existing isn't changing it. What you might be losing is admiration of your twitter friends. And art scene was bland slop for a long time. Frankly if for ability to see godzilla running for an us president or bugs bunny joining isis I have to sacrifice livelyhood of pompous pricks drawing shitty fanart then I'm more than willing.
>. Frankly if for ability to see godzilla running for an us president or bugs bunny joining isis I have to sacrifice livelyhood of pompous pricks drawing shitty fanart then I'm more than willing.
but effectively you just want AI to be a fanart machine.
the irony is lost on aigays, don't bother
How good an artist did you think he was?
small-minded people get scared when they're told to be scared.
Because most charge outrageous prices for commissions for drawings, and AI can already cover most people’s needs for commissions.
So they get extremely angry when you mention AI art.
Well personally speaking AI art upsets me because I love cringy mspaint fetish art and AI is driving it extinct.
He's a woke pervert who is only known for his art because he has gaggles of lgbtq amplifying him for being the kind of douchebag they like.
You speak as if artists are all the same. Unlike artists like Chuck Jones or Walt Disney, Adam's fame is entirely a product of trends.
same reason they seethed during the invention of photography
same reason they seethed when some artists rediscovered perspective in the middle ages
same reason they seethed when Egyptian nobles started to prefer more realistic portraits for their tombs instead of the cookie-cutter traditional flat designs
and into infinity
ancient cavemen probably screamed when someone tried to depict an aurochs differently from their particular stylization and in the future people will start screaming that newer artists are using a less-traditional original internet-scraping plagiarizing algorithm to realize their prompts or if they start using code instead of text based prompts to tell the modeling system what to do more directly (cheaters!) or some other ridiculous nonsense..
AI Pajeets are to art as NFT gays are to Vidya. Which is to say, they represent a very specific kind of small souled bugman who, despite having no interest, passion, love, or experience with a community, thinks that some newfangled tech will be their one-way ticket to instant fame and riches.
With NFTs and vidya, these dumb homosexuals were pitching shovelware software and ideas that already existed, except worse, barely playable, and made entirely from unity and unreal store default assets and templates. Maybe some of them knew they were just making a scam, but some morons really though it was just that easy to make a Triple-A MMO, and somehow no one with any more skill than them had tried to pull it off. Instead of seeing a desolate path that led to a dead end, they foolishly believed that they'd found the shortcut to industry-controlling success.
AI Pajeets have a similar stink about them. They have no creativity. No original ideas. They've never wanted to write a story or draw anything before... and now they're showing up and thinking it will be SO EASY to dethrone every artist more skilled and experienced than them with tech that they don't understand well enough to develop on their own. Exactly like the NFT gays who believed NFTs could do things they were verifiably, objectively never able to do and would never work, AI gays don't know enough about the tech they're using nor do they know enough about art in any way to understand that even if they could make better AI images by actually learning to use Stable Diffusion, they don't have the actual knowhow or skill to do anything meaningful with it.
the most telling thing is how all the AI projects we've seen just seem like the product of someone's who's entire pop culture diet is the most popular movies, video games, and concept art for both. It's always shit like
>there was a girl
>and..a robot
>and it was..the future
>and lots of cool lighting effects!
or sometimes just plain
>Something but CGI movie
And only the most surface level understanding of those things. Media only as a thing to be made to be sold so you can get lots of money. Nothing else.
>It's such a cool technology, and yet they do nothing but shun it nonstop.
Because it just keeps generating shit, and even when it makes something halfway decent it still doesn't give me the picture I had in my head. To get that I have to actually draw it. Let me know when you can plug the AI into your brain and have it actually see what you want to put on the page, with no prooompting bullshit. Only then will it be useful.
I mean... Brain reading is already possible. Granted it needs MRI scans to recreate an image, so it's not some sci-fi instant automagic process. But it's probably not likely you're gonna be able to get enough brain information with anything less than an MRI.
But the tech is already theoretically possible. It's just a matter of improving the models and getting more information out of the brain.
freaky shit
turns out we aren't so special after all, lmao
I can't fricking wait. Now the only thing left is for someone to come up with some kind of desktop AI art generator - brain-scan capable or not - because this subscription bullshit and the accompanying censorship is not acceptable to me. I want to create what I want when I want it and not have to keep forking over money to some conglomerate every time I generate something.
>Now the only thing left is for someone to come up with some kind of desktop AI art generator - brain-scan capable or not - because this subscription bullshit and the accompanying censorship is not acceptable to me.
Holy fricking shit, Stable Diffusion already exists, you can download it right now. I can even run it on my shitty 15 year old potato computer. Yes it is very slow, yes it takes some learning to setup, yes you need a decent GPU and RAM, and even more learning to get decent non-shitty images. It's open source so it doesn't have an army of paid scientists working round the clock to make it idiot proof. But it exists.
Do people not fricking search for shit at all anymore? Do you just throw your arms in the air in defeat and say "I heard about the Microsoft AI, so that must be the only one ever, hahaha! I better not have an independent curious thought and see what other options are out there!"
It's not just artgays. Even normal people don't want their individual rights taken away. Remember, copyrights is something we all have. Ai gaslighting you that it's okay to have communism without the original artist's opinions is not a valid excuse to allow art theft. It affects you and me. Everyone's art in how's your webcomic threads and art threads are all copyrighted by the individual person. Ownership is a powerful human basic right. Talking about artgays is a strawmans because it's the people's power that gets threatened
I'm not going to commission you.
Im not I just don't want my rights taken away just to shill for aigays
>Remember, copyrights is something we all have
Copyright is an elaborate system is legal bullshit created to protect large corporations. Making you believe that you need the copyright system to protect you is a way to make you simp for the RIAA and MPAA as they create more and more draconian legislation that protects them and further takes away what dwindling rights you think you still have.
No it isn't you fricking moron. Copyright is an automatic passive right every single person possesses at all times. Copyright expiration is an entirely different matter.
Which is to say it does not have those rights because profiting from someone else's copyright is illegal, especially for the person feeding information to the AI.
Copyright is legal fiction, it is not an inherent right.
RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS is more of an inherent right (in USA) and you homosexuals have no trouble questioning it.
Copyright only exists in law and only if you have the money to enforce it.
ai model has the same right and ability to use your work and incorporate into it's knowledge base, all of it's outputs can not be protected
only thing strengthening copyright laws protect is the corporate monopoly over ai datasets
AIs are not really intelligent and are not conferred the same rights as an intelligent being.
they have no rights, thus no liabilities
it can not be forbidden to do anything
Are you moronic? Rules and regulations have always existed for stuff made by people, why would this be any different?
Because on the ai side are the current most richest and powerful corpo entities to ever exist, and the progress of ai has military application beyond your petty non existent art career, let alone the fate of humanity.
Whatever happens, artgay concerns will be minimal, you don't matter.
>they're too powerful bro, you should just eat the bugs and own nothing and be happy since it's gonna happen anyway
no
you will own nothing, and be unhappy them
They fight the powa! I bet everyone is going to care deeply about your job getting automated when they didn't about ones way more important.
I don't want to draw shit, I just don't want all the media I enjoy to be swallowed up by the endless stream of slop that is coming if someone doesn't pump the breaks. You're outright moronic if you think this shit is gonna improve the media landscape. If anything it's just going to consolidate human-made art even more into the hands of the trust fund babies because they'll be the only ones that can actually afford to spend time on it as a hobby since pretty much all avenues for your average joe to make a living on their art is going to dry up. You morons aren't going to even be able to use your precious AI to make your own slop without forking over some cash since we're currently just in the beta phase and you're providing them free labor by helping troubleshoot the prototypes. The shit that doesn't look like muddy slop is either going to be limited on a subscription basis or limited to the same media companies currently having a stranglehold on the industry since they're the ones investing in this shit. It's going to be the same problems entertainment is currently facing only magnified by an absurd degree. I don't know if it can be stopped but I'm sure as hell not going to encourage it like a moron lemming just because I'm easily impressed by a shitty image gacha.
First of all, media you enjoy are already endless slop. And no one will put on the breaks because there are no breaks. Genie is out of the bottle. So you might just have a nice day already.
Is ai physically stopping you from drawing?
Art world changed when camera came out, magazine became popular, then when WWW came out.
You too will adapt, or not, and just chill and draw as always.
Nobody is going to give up on a miracles new technology just because you find it unfair.
"ai-bros' are but dingleberries in the wide giant butthole of modern technology that has been pooping on humanity for good and ill for ~200 years, you'll get used to it.
Also I can get this image for free in a minute. It's like having a little artist slave on a leash.
I like the tech.
I dislike the fact that the people using it have no apparent ability to filter or curate their generations.
Look at the Dall-3 threads and how you have one anon posting the same a dozen times in a row. Just pick the best one for fricks sake you don't need to share the same picture over and over. At what point does it become spam?
>At what point does it become spam?
It already is spam. What I don't understand is why every goddamn board needs some shitty AI general now. I was on Cinemaphile the other day and even they had the same morons spamming that shit. Why the lazy ass mods and jannies refuse to do anything about the cross-board spam I have no idea.
My guess is a lot of those skate by on technicalities. Someone generates 20 images with minor variations of some Cinemaphile related character but technically they're all "new" content and technically within topic. So all it takes is a couple of people to keep generals going endlessly. That said it's weird how it's more widespread on some boards than others. Maybe some sympathetic mods/jannies? Or implicit acceptance that it makes good engagement bait on some boards?
the inability for autistic morons to visually present their moronic ideas was a good filter for internet quality, that has now been destroyed. soon enough everyone will be sick of seeing the same uninspired shit posted on every corner of the internet, and consumption of art will drop entirely
>the inability for autistic morons to visually present their moronic ideas was a good filter for internet quality, that has now been destroyed.
true
>soon enough everyone will be sick of seeing the same uninspired shit posted on every corner of the internet, and consumption of art will drop entirely
lmao, no
there is 5 billion ppl yet to come online and every-single ppl hereafter will think it normal and take it for granted as much as you wee born in the era of web
aside from ppl having shit taste in general and not caring where the milk comes from
I don't know what the frick you're smoking. I'd vastly prefer everyone generating their own weirdo, unique reaction image than the fricking meme templates we used to have back in 2005. "Internet filter" my ass, we've always had generated normie shit. It's just gotten super elaborate now.
As an artgay myself, they feel threatened that they will be made irrelevant. I personally understand AI is the inevitable future and there is no escaping it. Adapt or perish.
pick up the pencil anon
wrong tool for the job
>using photoshop to draw
yeah, it's the wrong tool alright
>to draw
Lmao, it's to edit and retouch and copypaste ai images, as God intended.
The final technological evolution, the endgame of art is the Photoshop Monkey.
I honestly prefer pencil and paper to digital. The... Well, imperfections and scratchyness of the medium just make the end result look a lot better since your mind is filling in the (small) blanks, and it feels like you've got a lot more control with a pencil than with a stylus, and it feels like only working with a single colour enhances your creativity. Unless you break out the crayola 50-pack. The only downside is my hands get sweaty as frick and I smudge the shit out of the paper.
Also yeah photoshop sux lmfao
Well, ai will do nothing for Tradchads, of course, this is digigay problem.
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cringe ai-larpers will never understand
you can literally do all of that with a drawing program, also photoshop, what is this 2003?
PS is still what working adults use.
>draw left-handed
>have mouse on right side
cringe
neat, I didn't notice, guess the person is left handed or it doesn't matter for PS work since it's more editing than drawing...
flip a burger and you wont starve
...yet
I bet you feel real stupid drawing in your notebook instead of improving you grades now huh?
art isn't about money for many artists
DOUBT.jpg
Now you can starve for lying along with lost comissions. Perhaps you can eat your pride?
are ppl losing commissions, actually??
shame, I was gonna start taking them again just get some extra money for gacha games
No but if you have the awareness to notice it won't affect jack shit (seriously, fetish artists often have dedicated commission slot fillers so they won't notice the loss, if anything they'd see less fighting over it) on your end as an artist.
This is entire thing is funny because it's more like how the telephone companies in the 90s probably panicked hearing people could us AOLchat to communicate.
Well, I haven't drawn in a while being busy with work, but I still get messages from my previously customers asking me if I still take coms.
I'll never be anyone's top 10 artgay, but I've never had trouble getting takers since I'm willing to draw anything, so I hope yer right.
As for ai, it's pretty neat, you get the wind knocked out of you for a while, but life goes on.
I had hoped I could make long ass graphic novels with it, but it's still too early for something that useful.
Biggest point being is this is nothing more than panic because the general public has access to it.
We are indeed a far off way from any webcomics, movies, or short animations being made with them. For concept art and other such however? It's going to be supremely relied on since it's easier for anyone producing or developing an idea to get a visual to display.
Because they're probably under 30-years old and this is their first major art world shake-up. They're fricking terrified.
They don't have strong opinions about when the consumer-friendly camera put a bunch of painters out of business. Everyone's had a camera in their pocket for as long as they can remember. You probably use a camera at least once a day to take a picture of your pet. You can't denounce that invention because you don't remember a point in time before it.
They wouldn't dare decry digital programs and how those ended up putting a lot of traditional artists out of business. An overwhelming majority of online artists use a digital program or learned to draw with the aid of these programs + a tablet. They had zero concerns at the time as to whether or not an art supplies store was selling less product. They didn't care about pirating programs, or pirating art books, or watching re-uploaded art classes on YouTube. They got to learn how to draw in a FREE environment, something artists before the 90's didn't get to enjoy.
Now another group of people get to enjoy free shit at the cost of someone else and they fail to see the history repeating. That's what happens when you don't look past a single year beyond when you were born.
>Now another group of people get to enjoy free shit at the cost of someone else and they fail to see the history repeating. That's what happens when you don't look past a single year beyond when you were born.
This. It's terrifying to me just how many people are utterly ignorant of any period of time before they were born.
I don't know what's worse, the people who literally know nothing about before they were born, or the weirdos who fetish some Quixotic fantasy version of what they THINK the 1950's were like, while having been born in the 2000's and never even once actually talked to a human being who was alive in 1950.
Pretty solid point. You used to have to hire photographers to take photos for you since it took a special skill set to operate those huge, primitive cameras. I'm sure many of these people were pissed when cameras became easier to use and anyone could get one
to add to that, Kodak Brownie, disposable film cameras, early point and shoot digicam, and now phone camera... almost every human has one in their pocket now (not to mention they are also shoot movies)
BUT, but none of them compare to the image you can get out of a dedicated camera + lens system used by a professional... just that good enough is good enough.
generic graphics gays on suicide watch
Learn how to make shit yourself.
I am, prompting is so hard~
Art is only art because it was made by a human. AI "art" is not inherently and also floods everything with garbage.
>Art can only be made by a human
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey_selfie_copyright_dispute
Animals are capable of art, machines can be too. Get over yourself.
if you aren't making any realistic CP, frick off snowflake
You're going to have to stop and think that ANYONE can smother and scratch a drawing instrument, may it be graphite, wax, your own cum, onto a digital or traditional canvas, then calling it art. All the more reason why I'm just a mere hobbyist and humbly welcoming the robo-artists to this plane of existence.
Even if you do earn a large sum of "moola," that can easily be cancelled out by your funeral funds in a way as if nothing of value was gained. And as for those institutions though, it mostly couples that with programming, storyboarding, animation. By itself, it only serves as a charismatic centerpiece and nothing more. Those who proclaim that AI was a mistake are lazy and have a skill issue.
I know everyone likes to meme on food analogies but I still think it fits.
Imagine going to school to cook. Even if you aren't the best cook it can still make you a decent living cooking for other people and working in resturants. Now some guy invents frozen microwave meals where by a push of a button anyone can cook a meal themsleves. The thing is these meals are absolute ass and are literal slop. Now you would think the people would shun such garbage but instead everyone seems to be ok with it and even resturants are replacing their kitchens with microwaves. Now you think "this is only for low teir garbage like fast food" but even the 3 star resturants are replacing their cookes with it and aren't backing down. Even despite the fact that everyone from the customers to the resturant owners know that microwave meals are far from perfect and are putting out awful food not a single one of them seem to give a shit and the new standard in cooking is now frozen mush.
That's what is happening with AI. They are looking to replace humans who actually make good content and art and replacing it with AI who makes garbage.
Today I will remind them
Adam Ellis needs to stop using AI to make his comics.
>quinton reviews
And this should also be true if he used an art using that artist's comic as a dataset to steal/teach the ai. But technically, he stole the joke, not art
>his fans then harass the original artist
well, yeah, they accused him of art theft. that's like kicking the hornet's nest. also, i don't believe they actually got harassed.
>well yeah obviously they'd be harrassed
>also I don't actually think they were harassed
so which is it, frickface?
>an artists didn't want to draw for me for free, so I hate them
It's more like 'AI draws for me for free so i like it'.
Most artists these days expect you to sell your soul to wokeness. They cry and whine because people can circumvent having to deal with their gross behavior and mentality to have innocent fun. They chose not to develop themselves so that AI is friendly for them.
There is no irony you picked up from Arvalis without bothering to explain, it's just that most artists lack creativity and so it's not interesting to commission their work.
SEX
too bad Adam only has made gay porn
It be fair, it is ridiculously easy to make gay porn with AI.
Remember in 2004 when the two characters in every shitty strawman comic were a fat neckbeard and a smart nerd with glasses? Now it's always a conventionally attractive diverse woman and an obnoxiously but ultimately non-threatening white male twink.
And I should give a shit about these people why? If i'm doing something that makes people I don't like reeeeally upset, I must be doing something right.
I really upset my neighbourhood by beating a dog to death once. It's comforting to know I was in the right even though my community despises me.
>Upsetting me by using AI instead of commissioning my crap is like beating a dog
The most upper middle class shithead opinion ever. Rest assured that nobody else regards you as like a dog
So you hate it because it will fix the disenfranchise of some
By "inspired" you mean inspired by the art Industries
But my "upper middle class shithead opinion" upset you, so that means I'm right.
I hate the way this homosexual draws faces. You can always tell it's his work because of the DreamWorks eyebrows and mouth shapes.
Why are aigays shitting up the thread. Has nothing to do with them. The absolute constant shilling
My main project is about AI development. That shows your butthole approach to the internet, you think someone like Adam can completely abuse someone's dreams using it and there's no personal interaction there. I'll email him again as punishment
>They will harass you
>But they didn't
Quit contradicting yourself
man watching artists seethe about a.i. is just such a bummer.
it's disillusionment
hard to let your identity as an artist go, no matter how lazy or shitty artist you were
He's a homosexual hack who uses ctrl+alt+del tier practices....but he's right on this.
Sometimes homosexuals say obvious things that are correct. I'm not going to stop breathing because homosexuals do it all day every day am I?
Hitler also breathed air. The fact that you haven't sufficated to death tells me all I need to know about you, nazi.
Hitler was an artist and AI is racist. Coincidence?
Trips. The digital master race will get rid of us all.
He dialed down the B^U by a lot since he left that homosexual magazine
it actually took less than a year for people modding AI to fix weird anatomy. if you are using those free AI garbage from google you will still get them tho
>modding AI
SD is garbage
understandable
this's a good example of the feminization of our culture
comic panels used to depict actions. OP's post is just talking and making faces.
>No, you have to spend money and pay artists triple digit dollars for just as bad looking fetish art!
Nah. Enjoy starving art gays.
but I like to eat!
You know who wanted to really fricking eat but wasn't able to?
Jesus on the cross. Think about that for a bit.
but he had a last supper recently, meanwhile I never have supper, only breakfast and lunch.
you still need to lose more weight
>The plight of the Canadian poster.
You should see a doctor, I think they have an answer for your hungry tummy issue!
I only pay double digits for good distinctive art, myself.
I've yet to see ai do better, that's not a challenge, just an observation.
funny you think it's artists like Sakimichan or high-tier furry artists suffering, they're chugging along fine. You guys seethe about artists you;d never even pay in the first place.
By all means, show me the fricking artist who is going to take an oil painting commission of Garfield femboy doing his taxes in a burger king. By all means. Link me to that artist and I'll commission shit from them.
Brandon Bird would probably do it, he takes commissioned work and his whole wheelhouse is "wacky concept painted in high quality."
SOLD
You saved one artist anon, I hope you understand this.
>face closeup
>face closeup
>face closeup
>one fricked up hand
>face closeup
This could probably be made by an AI and a few minutes in photoshop. I see why this "artist" is afraid of AI.
I like making porn and shitpost images with AI (almost exclusively photographic) that I refuse to consider art, I won't apologize for that. It will never replace learning to actually draw or pose 3d figures.
And the irony of it all is, like the other anon said, AIgays aren't terribly creative and basically everything they make with it is:
>a) Hacked out, dull, and derivative
>b) Relentlessly commercialized and with the main goal of making money.
It's almost like people who don't want to put in any effort to do things and just want to push a button instant gratification, are actually shitty, uncreative people, who like the idea of being an artist more than actually being an artist, which involves a lot of hard work, dedication, love, and emotional maturity.
Or they're just porn addicts with a greater tolerance than I for fricked up hands and dodgy, uncanny rendering.
>HUMAN ART IS BETTER THAN AI ART BECAUSE HUMAN ART HAS SOULLLLL
At the end of the day, everything is just a fricking tool. Ellis was using Photoshop to pump out copy-pasted quick n' easy garbage, and now Jimmy Bimmy is using AI art to do the same shit. Only difference is Jimmy Bimmy didn't have to spend five years practicing like Ellis and that probably upsets him the most.
His point still stands, at worst he's a hypocrite that happens to be right without following what he preaches. As much of a hack Ellis is at least he's copy and pasting resources he created himself in the first place.
Cheap, lazy, hackiness, garbage, it really doesn't matter how it was produced. Most audiences and consumers are only going to care about the final product, not the lengthy backstory and journey it took to make it. If you put this AI art next to one of Adam Ellis' art pieces, your Average Joe is probably going to say the Pikachu looks cooler. And guess what? The Average Joe is who Ellis is appealing to in the first place with all his comics.
People like him and generic porn artist #2145 or random entry level concept artist don't hate AI art, they fear it. They KNOW their audiences, customers, or potential bosses are just looking for "good enough" and that's all they can supply. Most veterans or artists with an established style and fanbase aren't nearly as triggered by AI art. The former have probably adapted multiple times in their career that they know they can do it again, and the latter know they have something to offer.
a shitty doodle like adventure time is more engaging to people than the most over rendered concept art, because at the end of the day the quality only gets you so far, you need a spark of life to engage people. I don't doubt that AI can do that, but it's separating a lot of chaff from wheat.
A shitty doodle from PEN WARD is more engaging-- because he already has an audience. But if you're going to tell me something like pic related, done by a completely random artist, is going to be MORE engaging than a decent random AI artist piece, I'll just have to disagree. Hell, one of the biggest hurdles on /ic/ for years is that people get upset their nothing art blog filled with a bunch of observation sketches get zero attention because people just don't fricking care.
>But if you're going to tell me something like pic related, done by a completely random artist, is going to be MORE engaging than a decent random AI artist piece,
of course not. Because there is no narrative. you can make an AI narrative and have it be engaging, I'm sure, but if anything is going to make an artist succeed over AI, it's going to be offering some sort of connection beyond "hey neat image"
>separating a lot of chaff from wheat.
this is you, trying to hold on whilst rest of the world get mechanical combines
better get artisanal and have enough patreons before it's actually over, you might have a year or so left, you should get busy, not waste your time arguing with fellow shitposters who don't draw
... you do draw, right anon???
GOD I HATE THESE CAVEMEN WHO USE ROCK ON WALL INSTEAD OF HAND WITH MUD?! HOW DARE THEY? WHAT NEXT? ANIMAL HAIR ON STICK?
The future is now caveman. Go eat your berries and bugs and live in the hole.
>White boy:I AM SILLY
>enlightened brown girl: *author mouthpiece*
an AI would write better comics
>use AI
>Go to bed
>Wake up to numerous pics of porn created exactly to my tastes
>For free
Vs
>Commission artist
>Wait weeks
>Maybe get kind of what I wanted if I don't get scammed entirely
>Cost: 400 dollars
I'll take things that never happened for 100 Steve
People who compare art generators to NFT are so braindead.
They've both got the stink of speculators and degenerate gamblers and pajeets all trying to make a quick buck trying to jump on "the next big thing", but the technologies are not the same, no.
I can smell the stink of curry wafting over from this post
I would be slightly more positive on AI art if the training models weren’t in a selection of court cases about infringement.
How are those cases progressing, I can’t find much about them except they started months ago?
More broadly I think AI art will eventually get incorporated into the digital workflow as a copying technique for turning detailed hand-made material into a series of seperate images.
Or more hopefully be used to improve interpolation automation for animation. If you can teach an AI program to do squash and stretch and also apply it to the right objects. You vastly reduce the time and cost to make animation.
>Or more hopefully be used to improve interpolation automation for animation. If you can teach an AI program to do squash and stretch and also apply it to the right objects. You vastly reduce the time and cost to make animation.
I think this one has real merit. It's the wholesale generation slop I think most people take umbrage with and for good reason.
not too good
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/sarah-silverman-lawsuit-ai-meta-1235669403/
Neat. Good to know that images like this are 100% original content and that any coincidental similarities to characters or artstyles of a major company are not relevant for building a copyright claim.
Hitler was a disenfranchised artist.
AI coming for all the artist jobs, which means we'll have tons of disenfranchised artists soon.
Things are gonna get wild.
big if true
There Can Only Be One!
If speech and art are meant to communicate meaning from a conscious intelligence to another, and we understand that current AIs don't have consciousness, then it stands to reason that AI art or AI writing is a simulacra of intelligent communication. It is a meaningless exchange with on one end a recipient and on the other an unconscious mechanism reflecting what the target of the message wishes to see and what the mechanism has learned will result in engagement (without any real notion of what it's actually saying).
Without human curation and polish, AI anything is nothing but the sound of gears creaking in the void.
Of course he had to make the "bad guy" white. I'm tired of this clown homosexual
>Spend five years working at a skill that now has to compete with technology
vs.
>Spend five years waiting on your ass, playing video games, procrastinating, and doing nothing for the same result
Is Adam Ellis moronic? Did he even think about this comeback before writing it?
Everything about A.I right now feels like a bunch of companies using the public to beta test their products for free, to find any bugs and make improvements. And when they've ground it down to near perfection they're gonna lock it down so the public can't access it anymore (unless you wanna subscribe to it monthly for the lesser version than you got in the first place) AND either sell the products to Amazon, Google and other major tech companies (the other most obvious thing will be they'll be purchased by said tech companies) who will then sell their bullshit to media conglomerates who can then fire thousands of workers so they can save their money for shareholders and overpaid executives who were never and are never going to be hurting for money in the first place.
AI has the stink of major corporate wiener wafting off of it and I'm not playing that game.