Admit it, this point aged like shit since people still fondly remember Anakin, Qui Gon, Obi Wan, Padme, Mace, and Darth Maul. These are characters that people still think about decades later and that they will remember their entire lives. Meanwhile, even the most diehard fans can't recall who was on Han's team in Solo, or name anyone other than Jynn and Andor in Rogue One. No one will ever be excited for a Rose cameo, or a Finn comic.
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The less stinky poo is still poo?
the only thing I’ll admit is that the RLM prequel reviews helped popularize the worst kind of YouTube video (video essay) and that they succeeded in making prequelchuds piss and shit and cry about bog-standard film critique framed in a bizarre found-footage kidnapping horror comedy several years later
>RLM shill coping and seething years later
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Can you describe anyone with that criteria?
Describe Darth Maul without saying what they look like, what kind of costume they wore, what their profession or role in the movie was. I'll wait OP.
A stoic servant of a dark wizard who seethes with a hidden fury.
double sword guy, very angry
thats's his profession and his role
Fine; he seethes with a hidden fury beneath his outwardly stoic demeanor and at times of tension we see this rage bubble to the surface.
Sword is part of his costume and the image. Try again.
2nd living person to die in the movie
he's angery but quiet.
Wow he's quiet. What a great character moron lmao. rlm point still stands.
He’s cool which is more than I can say for vice admiral holdo.
Is
>but the sequels are even worse!
all prequeers can come up with?
At least Darth Maul wasn’t woke bro.
Aggressive, seeking to test himself, arrogant, loyal and filled with deep rage
Stoic, angry, impatient (the laser room part), loyal to his master, vengeful “At last we will reveal ourselves to the jedi. At last we will have our revenge” and mysterious.
Pretty much the whole point of Darth Maul is he's a generic Sith lord.
If you're watching the movies in order starting with 1 (which George intended), Darth Maul is pretty much there to inform the audience that there's this thing called a Sith, and Darth Maul is what they look like. He's pretty much a shallow character by design, because he's the archetypal Sith. Evil looking and monstrous.
>If you're watching the movies in order starting with 1 (which George intended)
Hahahaha
He has said that himself. He thinks episode 1 is where viewers should start.
I'm sure he did. Just like he thinks people should only be allowed to watch his mutilated Special Editions of the OT. That's why I'm laughing.
This isn't a "why I don't like George Lucas" thread. It's a me explaining to you why the movies were made like they were thread. Your b***hing is completely irrelevant.
>they
>their
Kys, leftist scum
He’s suppose to be an unstoppable killing machine like terminator and jaws
I don’t think the film really built him up like those other characters but he’s suppose to be an unknowable force of nature instead of someone with an interesting back story
Did Darth Maul even have a single line of dialogue?
The plinkett test also does not prohibit you from mentioning a character's relationship with other characters, that whole sequence was completely dishonest since Qui-Gonn did have decent characterisation if you actually paid attention to what he did. Padme was still a walking 2x4 in that film though.
He briefly talked to Sheev Cosinga Palpatine in that one scene.
>Describe Darth Maul
Why pick a character with 6 minutes of screentime? I feel like you're being disingenuous
Because OP appealed to Darth Maul as an example of why the exercise is bad.
>his point aged like shit since people still fondly remember ... Darth Maul. These are characters that people still think about decades later and that they will remember their entire lives.
>Describe Darth Maul without saying what they look like, what kind of costume they wore, what their profession or role in the movie was. I'll wait OP.
OK: his name is Darth Maul
You didn't say I couldn't just name him you idiot
Darth Maul exudes an aura of menacing intensity. His demeanor is marked by a relentless focus and a palpable hunger for power. He operates in silence, except for the fiery eyes that burn with an unquenchable thirst for vengeance. Maul's actions reveal a ruthless cunning, and his presence is a reminder of the dark undercurrents that course through the Star Wars universe.
>Hello, beautiful
RLM are manchildren who don't understand the concept of characters who are professionals trained in stoicism.
If the character isn't hooting and yelling "WHO DA MAN, DAWG!", they think they have no personality.
That's basically it. The entirety of the RLM criticism basically boiled down to "This wasn't a Marvel film and they didn't make enough funny quips". The sequel trilogy was the direct result of people trying to answer their criticism.
If it aged then why can't you do it to this day? The prequels sucked dick. Sorry.
This question is bankrupt since Mike counted shit like "Han Solo is a wienery rogue and a womanizer" as an answer even though that breaks the rules of the experiment.
Jar-Jar is the only one with a character arc. The fish(man) out of water, exiled from his homeland and friendless, goes on a whacky space adventure, returns home to lead his people in a desperate, hopeless struggle and gains redemption. The character everyone hated is the only good one in the movie.
Anakin has a personality, and an arc.
>Anakin has a personality
citation needed
Smart wizkid, who's butthurt about his upbringing and wants for more. How is that not a personality?
>he's a psycho, that's a personality
never once after the first movie does he demonstrate being smart. in fact he's a completely different character after ep1, if you'd said they were different people nobody would even question it
>being a kid who wants to not be a slave is being a psycho
Man, there's some things I could say about that perspective.
>Someone changed after spending 10 years in a chaste order of warrior monks
Whoa...
You are supposed to note the big personality changes in Anakin. That's part of the tragedy. While he had a hard life as a slave on Tattoine, he was full of wonder and enthuasm and talent. Its not hard to imagine that if he had simply been left there, he would have found his way and lived a fullfilling life. The jedi order was never a good fit for him, exactly as Mace and the others noted in Episode 1.
It's weird looking back how, other than Jay's boyfriend, we are now familiar with all the "random" people he questioned (Jay, Rich, Jack, Gillian). Makes it feel less genuine for some reason.
>he is forward thinking and smart
who am I?
Palpatine
"A character is bad unless you can fill out a checklist of personality traits that cannot be similar to any other character" is midwit approach to analyzing characters. It's an approach that best works for soap operas. You could make movies like Das Boot or 2001 sound terrible by using this approach.
Not saying prequels were good at exploring the unique psychological traits of every character, but there's more to writing characters than that.
Over the years I saw a lot of threads doing the describe a character game for things other than Star Wars and I came to realize it was such a fricking idiotic criteria for that reason
It made me realize that while the Prequels were bad the midwit attempts at complaining about the prequels made things worse
>I saw threads where people did the same thing for other movies with poor characters and couldn't do it either so there
Okay
You are a moron.
But.
Only speaking lines were not in english.
Had legs.
Was not an alien prostitute.
Anakin's arc over the course of the trilogy is like one of those people who peaks early in life and then has a massive chip on their shoulder about it.
Being the hero in Episode 1 is the best thing that ever happens to him, and then he gets trained as a Jedi, and develops all of these frustrations that they're holding him back from being the best and saving the universe, or whatever.
>well I don't like that character!
Okay. That wasn't the question, was it?
The Darth Maul fight was the best star wars has ever been.
His name ryhmes with Gobi Chan Stenobi
The Plinkett reviews are all accurate. The fact that the Disney movie are even worse than the prequel trilogy doesn't make the prequel trilogy better or make RLM wrong. Stop coping.
>this point aged like shit
Then follow the exercise. Describe Darth Maul without any of those features. Don't use any bullshit from the cartoons or comics either. Episode 1 only.
>Describe Darth Maul without any of those features
A means by which Palpatine can shake the Jedi off of his tail, he has a reserved demeanor which belies a raging beastial nature which comes out when he gets the chance to cut loose with his formidable skill in combat.
Also the way Lucas directs actors is profound. Never understood the meme that he can't do it. He is up there with alikes of Bergman, Cassavetes and Mike Leigh.
>Darth Maul is ... uh ... he's angry and full of rage.
What is he angry about? What is his motivation? Only from the film please.
>What is he angry about? What is his motivation?
Why is this necessary information?
Because there's no reason for me to care that he's angry.
So there's no reason. With characters like Anakin we do see actual reasons.
He literally exists to be "a Sith". I've explained this to you already. He's a shallow character by design.
>Actually he's a shitty character
Thanks, let OP know.
He's not a shitty character. He just barely is a character.
What's the character of Tarkin? He's "The Empire". That's it really. He represents what an absolutely standard Imperial officer looks like, and that informs the audience's perception of the rest of that universe.
>He's not a shitty character. He just barely is a character.
>>his point aged like shit since people still fondly remember ... Darth Maul. These are characters that people still think about decades later and that they will remember their entire lives.
People do remember Darth Maul. The experience of watching Darth Maul be Darth Maul on screen was great.
I would have forgotten Darth Maul if I were not reminded by the godforsaken continuing existence of St*r W*rs
He's a Sith assassin. He's angry because he's a Sith. It's what they do. They embrace anger as part of their religion.
He wants to kill Jedi for his master as the culmination of his training and to be rewarded by his dark lord. He's also aggressive and cruel. Do you really need an internal dialogue for this??
Did you also get confused when sauronman attacked Gandalf?
Sauron has motivations which are comprehensible and are not "I am le evil xD"
Meant Saruman not Sauron
>Without what kind of costume they wore
Half the cast is wearing a robe and the other half is wearing armor. It would be harder to describe them using only their costume.
>So they are in a brown robe.
>But with a tunic thing on underneath.
>Jedi wear the same robes as commoners on Tatooine (???)
>Obi Wan in hiding on Tattoine was actually wearing his Jedi Robes™ openly
Choose one
>people have no standards so the point is wrong
They're still bad movies, prequel trannies
Qui-Gon Jinn emanates an air of wisdom and serenity. His presence exudes a quiet confidence, and he carries himself with a sense of purpose. His words are measured and thoughtful, reflecting a deep understanding of the Force and the galaxy's complexities. He possesses a resolute determination and a strong belief in his principles, which guide his actions throughout the story.
I mean those requirements are kind of designed to make anyone sound a little generic.
But Qui-Gon for example would be stoic, calm under pressure. Wise, but thinks unconventionally. Kind and patient, but assertive when he needs to be. Capable of defending himself in a fight, but not invulnerable.