NTA but if you googled "family' image search almost exclusively showed interracial or brown families. It's actually so bad that if you look up "theft" almost all the images are of stock images where white people are stealing.
The average idiot already can't tell the difference. AI is being used in news report images already passed as real, and very rarely being called out. In fact they're now running articles calling real photos AI generated in order to further confuse the masses. It's literally Wag The Dog, even worse than before because now they don't even have to pay actors or buy props anymore to completely astroturf the popular perception of reality.
>The average idiot already can't tell the difference.
Is that not a problem worth fixing?
Oh right if we did that AI would stop being needed. It all makes sense now.
1 month ago
Anonymous
The point of AI is not to replace fictional entertainment media, that's just a training ground to work out the kinks. It's to replace "real" media and news, straight up Ministry of Truth style.
I don't donate to Wikipedia because they invested money in an experiment where some black lady killed a bunch of baby octopuses. It sounds like non-sequiteur bullshit but there's a video conference thing of her talking about it.
>Why would you use AI for that when you can just google a real image of them?
You can't anymore. Google image results are ridiculously tainted by AI stuff now.
It's cause they have hidden prompts being inserted before yours triggered by particular words and phrases. They wanted that shit, they just didn't expect it to occur in that blatant a fashion, and the AI doesn't give a frick about context to begin with.
the only reason i can imagine people desperately wanting AI to be good is that commies who have no skill, passion or the ability to learn and improve are desperate to 'equalize' the playing field
the issue of course is that if you're so creatively handicapped that you can never create anything, you probably won't be able to think up anything creative either
Most ai gays don't have a consistent narrative beyond how much they hate artists for being greedy sumbitches and how they're doomed to lose their jobs, nevermind that those buttholes aren't going to get any respect using AI since by their own admission the program is the one doing the heavy lifting and they themselves are 100% worthless in the process of creation beyond being the supposed "idea man"
At first AI is going to be used to make minor assets, like icons in video games and shit like that. Eventually it will become more involved but it's not going to replace artists. The shitflinging between supposed aigays and furry porn artists is twitter troony schizo shit nobody actually cares about. It's here, it's not going away, cope and work on your art.
I'm not an artist, so I don't care beyond how much buttholes spam shitty ai threads outside of their containment zones, and in my experience the people who are convinced they're going to be making trillions off of hacked ai artwork are the most annoying gays of the whole lot (although the artist doomsayers who are convinced there'll be no artists at all remaining are also annoying ).
Much like
The only ones with a psychotic obsession with job loss are the AI haters, because they're mediocre. I look forward to technological advancement and job opportunities will be sorted out in the process - but the mediocre won't turn out favorably
The only ones with a psychotic obsession with job loss are the AI haters, because they're mediocre. I look forward to technological advancement and job opportunities will be sorted out in the process - but the mediocre won't turn out favorably
It's bad because there's no safety net and our society values profit
If that wasn't the case, if losing your job wasn't an existential crisis and the profit motive was handicapped so that you could create for creation's sake easily, I don't think there'd be 1/10th as much anger and anguish about it and the most we'd hear about AI slop being inherently bad would be the Miyazaki-esque bitter old men who just naturally prefer doing everything by hand and hate kids on principle
Yeah artists can be pretty annoying, in particular online artists because none of these gays go offline and ever visit a museum or art gallery or meet actual artists irl but it's quite normal for artists to be weird. say what you will, but at least they make something. even the ones that call themselves commies aren't really, they're only commie in name and aesthetic.
AI gays are the real communists, true and honest >Hate the notion of skill and merit >Constant attempt to undermine skilled people >Want everything to be the same and everyone to be able to make any ol slop >Expect that slop to be treated with equal respect and be considered just as good and valuable as stuff made by people with skill
>t commies who have no skill, passion or the ability to learn and improve are desperate to 'equalize' the playing field
Hey look at that, even these frickers are saying communism is really just a means of consolidating capitalistic power.
Because in the end it's all about getting something of value for as little as possible in true blue Capitalism, baby! Frick paying them artists we're getting direct shit, yeehaw!
Let me see all the companies run by social justice warriors black rocks the head of every major investment company and they all want social justice politics. But guys AI is totally going to go our way I mean it's not like all the bad people in the room that support all the policies we just like are not going to use it against us. Are you guys that stupid
>Let me see all the companies run by social justice warriors black rocks the head of every major investment company and they all want social justice politics.
Yes, communism is about consolidating capitalistic power, cornering the market and preventing anything that might challenge their ability to enact what they specifically want. Since of course Communist leaders would make more money if their countries were run different, but they want control just as much because control can be worth more than money can.
>But guys AI is totally going to go our way I mean it's not like all the bad people in the room that support all the policies we just like are not going to use it against us.
They're already using media against us, openly and verbally, and unfortunately for them Lora computing is already out in the wild. Can't uncork that shit because they didn't act fast enough to clamp down on it before the normies got a hold of it. So now people get to fight back with good old fashioned capitalism, baby! Using tools to get as much value as possible with as little initial investment, that's the 'Merican way! Whether it's for personal "I want these pictures for my entertainment" value or shoving out stuff for an untapped market and getting cash for it, Capitalism only swings one way papi!
>Using tools to get as much value as possible with as little initial investment, that's the 'Merican way!
More like that's the human way since the dawn of fricking time. What a bizarre thing to say.
>More like that's the human way since the dawn of fricking time.
Good god you're dense.
Someone could offer you a sandwich and you'd bite the plate.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Maybe if you made real arguments instead of baffling schizoid walls of text about capitalism and social justice warriors the conversation could go somewhere.
This argument exists only in your head. An example of a use case in reality is character portraits in TTRPGs. I was never going to pay someone for such a trivial thing and I can't draw my way out of a wet paper bag. Luckily I can just prompt smug elf and get something usable in less than a minute. Why does that make you so asshurt?
Not the same person but you failed to understand that at some point they're going to a either regulate this or b raise the cost to a point where average people can't use it. Yes I know some people have downloaded a bunch of stuff but the best stuff is going to be coming out of these corporate made AI systems. It's basically gatekeeping in the long term, artists will still exist it's still able to make money but all entertainment will be AI controlled and it won't matter if you don't watch it because of cost nothing to make for these big companies. Think of it like this years and years ago everyone knew how to make clothing and grow their own food now they don't, in 20 years no will know how to draw and the only stuff will be able to create will be controlled by the corporations, you want to draw a funny picture well I'm sorry your prompt has been denied for being inappropriate. People that killed YouTube and made it a politically correct place are the same people who want to kill all art to make it a politically correct place through having the ability to stop an average people from creating their own little silly little memes. If you get people to lose the ability to create and the only thing they can create with is the tools control by a few people well you have total power
>Yes I know some people have downloaded a bunch of stuff but the best stuff is going to be coming out of these corporate made AI systems.
My guy I hate to break it to you but most of "The best" things in entertainment is going to come out of stuff with big purses, even if it doesn't work.
You think small budget films shouldn't exist because they can't make spaceship battles or cgi monster characters?
Good luck trying to find those little people stuff, have about a thousand marvel movies coming out a month costing pennies. AI is about flooding from the market with AI created images and AI created movies. The only reason you know the small movies exist is because they're easy to find. Look at how much AI is already flooding everything. Pretty soon 90% of the stuff you see is going to be AI good luck trying to find anything that's not. Good luck trying to find anything that is not controlled by a big corporation. Hey I want to watch a political video sorry can't find it's buried between 500 videos about some topic made completely automated and another million other videos that are going to be crappy. AI can make everything faster cheaper and can out compete any human. The only people that are going to benefit from this are going to be scammers and big corporations. You're going to get a thousand Captain marvel movies and all the comics are going to be done by AI, and it will not matter if you don't buy them because the companies will still make a profit off because it'll cost nothing to make. But I'm sure prompting those big anime breasts was worth losing the culture. Get ready for Tina the transgender dinosaur and her 10,000 episodes that cost $15 to make for this corporation
1 month ago
Anonymous
whats stopping small independent artists from using ai to make their own movies
1 month ago
Anonymous
You still don't get volume. It's not that people are going to stop creating it's the fact that the more processing power you have the more money you have the more you can flood the market. Let's say you want to see a good picture well good luck trying to find it let's say there's an independent artist that makes a good movie good luck trying to find it because these corporations can flood any website portal you name it with their content that will be automatically generated. So let's say you create a really really good movie with your AI tools how many people are going to see that movie because it's going to be buried under the content that's created by corporations. This is already happening any website that allows AI images are flooded with AI images which I'll compete the quality AI images and the quality art. It doesn't matter if it's good it's about spamming. If I can go to a website and spam an endless supply of a images I don't care if there's a few golden artists and golden AI artist I can outcompete them just on the volume of my production if I have enough processing speed and money. Yes you can get an AI to write you a based book but no one's going to read it because it's going to be all competed by the left is controlled corporations that are going to be able to make for every base book they will create a billion books with their politics
1 month ago
Anonymous
despite there being a hundred marvel movies i have never seen a single one of them because i dont care about marvel. they could shit out ten billion marvel movies a second and i would never see any of them because i would have marvel shit filtered out. in your supposed leftist controlled nightmare world you can still get a copy of mein kampf off amazon.
1 month ago
Anonymous
No one cares about Old Men, it's all about young people okay think of this in years and generations. Think 10 years down the road who won't even know any right-wing politics in 10 years. If everything's to the left they see growing up because the people control these corporations are leftists and they understand clearly those who control the young control the future. And if they can bury all the old content under AI generated politically correct content they will. I recently looked for a video and I saw years ago on YouTube it's gone it was nothing really political about it delete it forever, and those people who have the power to erase history those are the people who want AI generated content and none of you ever think why. You're giving power to people who are going to use these tools to enslave you because they're going to get kids to believe their politics vote their way and you're going to sit there and cry and regret obsessing over some AI generated anime girl breasts.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Are you prompting a chat AI to generate skitzo rants?
1 month ago
Anonymous
>I recently looked for a video and I saw years ago on YouTube it's gone it was nothing really political about it delete it forever, and those people who have the power to erase history
>download videos I like >leftists BTFO
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1 month ago
Anonymous
>he thinks he'll be safe from disney presents hard drive inspection day
>Why does that make you so asshurt?
You are very bad at reading.
You getting something of value, the portrait, for as little as possible, free, is Capitalism at it's finest. Because that's what this is all about, getting something of value for very little investment.
Me when I find the gen b baddie who is finally willing to help me with assisted suicide thanks to her tire crushing guro fetish she got from OP's video.
AI animation will inevitably become a norm, and will replace traditional animating jobs across the board. Seething about it won't change that, so the best option now is to adapt and move forward. Traditional animation will always have it's place, but cheap-o garbage cartoons are better off being AI animated anyway.
I'm ready to tolerate that world, I just don't want people to confuse my declaration of those toons looking like cheap shit as some kind of weird luddite conspiracy instead of just the fact they look like cheap shit
I've been looking into this stuff. Ironically if I ever got rich off AI slop, the first thing I'd do is probably pay an actual animation studio to make a handdrawn 90s-style cartoon. It's not that I want artists to suffer or be obsolete. There's just no path for me to create anything if I'm not already rich and connected. That's the real existential crisis for artists. Something people don't understand: most art is commission art and has been that way since ancient times. The great Renaissance and Classical paintings and sculptures were commissioned by aristocrats, and all these great cartoons you see came out of big network demands. It's only in relatively recent times that creators and artists could self-fund or crowdfund their passions because historically if you were an artist and wanted to get noticed but had no wealthy patrons willing to pay you, you were shit out of luck. Hell the whole "modern art" thing was funded by the CIA because few big moneyed types were going to pay for that shit to be broadcast to the world.
That's why artists are seething: virtually overnight, the ability to generate images that look like high end art became virtually zero cost for the first time in human history and prehistory for that matter. We haven't hit pure saturation point (which is why there's so much cope about "AI winter and AI peaked" despite the fact there's no evidence it has) so more normies are getting in on it than not and it hasn't stabilized.
If human artists were continuously commissioned or supported, I think there'd be far less angst about this, but we haven't reached that point.
I'd probably pay a premium if it meant that there was a way to give independent animation studios a way to make their own stuff without having to worry about big networks.
>We haven't hit pure saturation point
If we haven't, we're getting very, VERY close. DeviantArt has been shilling AI art hard recently, and revealed that their "top AI sellers" only managed a measly 12k a year from over 3000 sold images. That's more art than most artists are even capable of drawing for most of their lifetime, yet not even that's enough for the top grifters of the AI scene to reach minimum wage for what's effectively a full time job.
There's more AI generated images right now than there are legitimate images taken since 1980. It's beyond oversaturated and is rapidly depreciating in what little value it had to begin with. Nothing about this shit is sustainable in the slightest, and the only people telling you otherwise are bagholders hoping for one last rugpull before shit hits the fan.
>adapt
You clearly don't know what that word means since you never go into detail what that means here. Adapt, how? You do know just because it's forced doesn't mean I have to use it right? Like the 1000s of innovations humanity made for eons isn't just there for me to access at my very whim?
At first AI is going to be used to make minor assets, like icons in video games and shit like that. Eventually it will become more involved but it's not going to replace artists. The shitflinging between supposed aigays and furry porn artists is twitter troony schizo shit nobody actually cares about. It's here, it's not going away, cope and work on your art.
Keep telling yourself that, maybe someday you might even believe the words you're paid to shill.
>The first law restricting AI > In the EU
If it exists within the EU's jurisdiction it *will* get cocooned in red tape.
Remember how they forbid the production of candles over a certain length?
Good times
See, posts like that are why people want you to sit and spin along with the other AI gays out of your containment thread, people would genuinely be less opposed to AI art if the loudest proponents weren't so beyond insecure and obviously in it to boost their overinflated egos
You are literally attacking my main project I conceived with my best friend. All you care about is constructing rhetoric so your side will win, not my life.
Keep talking, I'll keep emailing AI haters and reprogram you that way. >Actually making a franchise is boring to you >You just want to status climb and earn clout so you can parasitize actual real artists who focus on their art
You still don't understand, this is not about artists this is about processing speed and who has the most money. If you have enough money you can create an infinite amount of content to bury anyone else's content. You can already see this with AI images if someone actually spends time making something good it's buried under a pile of other crappy images that outcompete them. Get ready for your Ubi based on your social credit score dummy.
It's considered theft because it's quite literally stealing images/data and repackaging them for profit. It violates Fair Use laws in basically every conceivable way.
Then learning from copyrighted images as a human is illegal.
1 month ago
Anonymous
A human isn't a goddamn machine you worthless bastard.
1 month ago
guy
It's called logical reasoning
1 month ago
Anonymous
You will die a worthless slave you will never know the joys of being a free man being, you walk into your shackles with a smile on your face. No one will remember your name you are a mindless slave
1 month ago
Anonymous
There's nothing logical about your reasoning, schizoid.
I don't think we are approaching the point where AI can do what it promises, but I do think it is approaching the point managers think it can do what it promises and when it doesn't after removing pople who can do the job, they just wash their hands of it and redirect away from animation or customer service.
Like Air Canada tried to and got a shellacking in the courts over.
You pretty much hit the nail on the head. Chances we're going to see a lot of repeats of this exact scenario until corporate realizes its way more trouble than it's worth. It's basically self-checkout, except there isn't even a convincing veneer of usefulness about the tech.
Unless an artist can prove they learned in a total vacuum with no outside influence whatsoever they should face a copyright strike if they ever intentionally draw something. Learning from other artists is basically theft, according to this thread.
An artist isn't capable of drawing near perfect screenshots of existing movies without outright tracing, which is frowned upon. AI generation programs can, and very easily at that. This isn't even remotely comparable.
What if it's a very fast artist? You've just indicted photography as well, by the way. I agree. Too dangerous to artistic integrity. Better get rid of cameras before they make an impact on poor starving realists.
>What if it's a very fast artist?
Are you moronic? >You've just indicted photography as well, by the way.
Taking a recording or photo of something copyrighted violates copyright. Holy shit, you really are moronic.
I'm not arguing with your point there, because I agree. But to be fair, when AI makes a new image trained on a database of art, it's considered art theft even though the new image bears little to no direct resemblance to the references.
It's considered theft because it's quite literally stealing images/data and repackaging them for profit. It violates Fair Use laws in basically every conceivable way.
>literally stealing
Bro, if that's stealing, then so are all those artists using art styles "inspired by" famous artists, like most anime-themed artists and almost all painters.
A huge part of why a lot of the AI lawsuits either fizzle out or never get anywhere is because the final model used to create art has 0% of any "stolen" art inside. The only time any AI-related lawsuits go anywhere is if someone in an AI field says something stupid/incorrect or they start tossing out sob stories to get people to cry.
Also, >repackaging for profit
Only a few big dogs make profit, most people either do it for free and dump their shit on Civitai or they run some dinky Patreon for a couple bucks a month.
So long as the big, sue-able companies are not doing shit like ripping art from behind paywalls via Kemono or F95, or using some dataset that's full of questionable nudes of questionable ages, there's no reason they should be getting in trouble.
Besides, the more we lock our AI shit down, the more other countries like China and India will use it instead and fill the gap for both good and bad purposes, and AI will continue regardless. Still thankfully not getting any AI voice scammers over the phone yet, whew. I live with some gullible-ass homies.
Plus I figure most big non-AI companies using AI mostly Disney will simply train their own model on all public domain art plus their bazillion IPs, including any fanart of all of their IPs and it'd be 10000% legal with no red tape at all, so the end result is big companies with AI while us plebes would be shut out.
>then so are all those artists using art styles "inspired by" famous artists
Except as already established, that is nowhere close to comparable. Quit anthropomorphizing a computer program just to pretend this argument has any merit.
>A huge part of why a lot of the AI lawsuits either fizzle out or never get anywhere is because the final model used to create art has 0% of any "stolen" art inside.
Most of the lawsuits are still ongoing, they haven't "fizzled out".
>most people either do it for free and dump their shit on Civitai or they run some dinky Patreon for a couple bucks a month.
And those are the customers these corporations are draining to make money off of through subscription services.
>So long as the big, sue-able companies are not doing shit like ripping art from behind paywalls via Kemono or F95
They are >or using some dataset that's full of questionable nudes of questionable ages
They also are, literal CP and private hospital data was found in these image sets.
1 month ago
Anonymous
What a depressing future no robot overlords to fight just silicon valley latest get rich quick scheme. I don't think entertainment and art have as much value as these people are predicting. Unless it starts cranking out some really good games instead of just being used to create some assets I really don't see the future in this, it really just feels like nfts all over again
If it's capable of unintentionally producing near perfect screenshots of popular works, then chances are most AI images are, in reality, just images that already exist with only slight touch ups to it. We just don't know who it's plagiarizing specifically because you'd have to trudge through billions of images to find it, but the fact that this is possible renders the entire technology worthless.
In regards to AI vs artist suits
First case got most charges dismissed in Oct 23, except the one about Stability Diffusion being trained on copyright data, which is moving forwad.
Artist refild for copyright infringement, unfair competition and breach of contract claims against DeviantArt and Midjourney. Ditching the right of publicity claim, which is what got the main set originally removed.
Mindjourney might be th weak link as it's program can now replicate film shots .
Love all these self-righteous "artists" suddenly stanning for copyright laws when it might affect their wallets, hope it comes back and bites you idiots in the ass.
Watch as copyright/IP laws get way more draconian and it becomes wholly illegal to make fanart of an IP you don't own.
I'd laugh my ass off, despite the fact I'm part of that faction of people that make fanart of shit I don't own.
Funny thing, in Japan it is, but the key is that pretty much every creator in Japan is smart enough to recognize that the majority of fan art is free publicity and that almost all fan artists are so small time that it's not worth the amount of time and money needed to sue them. It's the reason they don't normally go after fan comic doujins despite them being openly sold at conventions, the amount of money those guys get in sales is so pathetic in comparison that companies would lose more money suing them into the ground. Course, I have a feeling that shit's going to change if AI becomes popular, and if it does then it's not going to matter how many people try to make the "If AI is stealing than so is anyone inspired by a famous artist" argument, those geriatric fricks over in the land of the rising sun aren't going to understand or care about the difference and rule it as theft and other countries are probably going to follow.
1 month ago
Anonymous
They already passed law that AI is allowed for learning purposes a year ago, internally it's banned from conventions.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Makes enough sense, although I expect that's already being abused to hell and back enough to get far more draconian laws held against it sooner or later.
1 month ago
Anonymous
it's not
AI barely work as a teaching tool and its only use so far has been to make pixiv build a new server just to store aishit by how hard their servers were being spammed
1 month ago
Anonymous
You'd think that was the case with how much pricks like OP fellate how fast AI tech is improving, but funny to hear that it's been the opposite. And honestly, they're right to do so, pixiv is just impossible to search through without that ai filter.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Douchebags like OP are just trolling. They don't even post gifs and then talk about animation. They're just saving curated advertisements directly from openai's site onto their phones and using it to shitpost because of culture wars shit.
1 month ago
Anonymous
There's days I wish Hiromoot would just make an /ai/ board or whatever to shove all that shit onto, but considering how little containment boards have done to fully stop shit like /misc/ and /mlp/ from forcing their bullshit onto other threads, I dread how much worse it could possibly be than when this shit actually starts looking competently made instead of lower than youtube poop/gmod shit
1 month ago
Anonymous
It's never going to look competently made. It was a sign of the end when they moved on to video before perfecting images. All the slop clogging every corner of the internet still has that dall-e sheen and they seem pretty comfortable with that
1 month ago
Anonymous
I honestly don't know how they think that weird sheen looks good, it seriously feels like I'm looking at plastic whenever I do
1 month ago
Anonymous
>There's days I wish Hiromoot would just make an /ai/ board or whatever to shove all that shit onto,
Containment boards have never worked. they just serve to attract more morons that think they're in good company and are too entitled to stay there.
Because they think they're going to replace artists, coders and in general animators. What they failed to realize is that it's replacing all the jobs related to anything information technology. That includes their mighty skill of prompting. Because an AI can prompt better, you cannot compete with a computer in a digital space but a computer can't pick up a hammer so it's time to learn how to pick up a hammer. The internet's going to become nothing but these Indian scammers and a bunch of bots talking to each other. And you're still going to have to go to work on Monday and actually do physical labor. They're bringing the cost of I guess you'd call it mental labor down to zero and they're increasing the cost of physical labor. So you can't be fat and sit in front of your computer and make a million bucks you're going to have to get a real job doing real things outside. It's kind of poetic a digital space control by computer it's not going to grow your food or give you a place to live. Basically they're selling digital land versus real land guess which one's going to win
1 month ago
Anonymous
>real job doing real things outside
It's worse than that, because we're also fast-forwarding automation elsewhere. Good jobs everywhere are going to evaporate, meanwhile our shared culture is going to inevitably end up more under the control of the wealthy. To actually get GOOD as an artist you need lots of practice, and you'll only get that kind of practice if you (1) have a parent's money to live off of, or (2) are able to make a living doing less glamorous low-quality art gigs.
AI is going to quickly get rid of all the "it ain't much, but it's a living" art jobs, making it impossible to hone your skills AND earn a living at the same time. Increasingly it'll just be trustfund kiddies that are able to polish their skills.
There are fricktards thinking AI will take culture away from "the elites." What it's actually going to do it make it even more impossible to become a professional artist (or writer for that matter) unless you come from a rich family.
1 month ago
Anonymous
I would say it's more likely AI is just going to destroy the entertainment industry in general. People are still going to have to live in the real world and if AI just becomes what it looked like it's becoming a Spam bot then everyone's going to lose interest in the digital space. We're going back to the 1970s
Because they think they're going to replace artists, coders and in general animators. What they failed to realize is that it's replacing all the jobs related to anything information technology. That includes their mighty skill of prompting. Because an AI can prompt better, you cannot compete with a computer in a digital space but a computer can't pick up a hammer so it's time to learn how to pick up a hammer. The internet's going to become nothing but these Indian scammers and a bunch of bots talking to each other. And you're still going to have to go to work on Monday and actually do physical labor. They're bringing the cost of I guess you'd call it mental labor down to zero and they're increasing the cost of physical labor. So you can't be fat and sit in front of your computer and make a million bucks you're going to have to get a real job doing real things outside. It's kind of poetic a digital space control by computer it's not going to grow your food or give you a place to live. Basically they're selling digital land versus real land guess which one's going to win
It's culture wars. In their mind "artists" are all blue haired snowflake twitter using armchair activists with a bazillion pronouns. Once all "artists" are grouped into "people I disagree with" it's not that long a trip to "no longer people" and it's okay to wish ill upon them.
It's why you'll get those guys in these threads talking about how "artists" told coal miners to learn to code. You never see them produce a single artist quote saying this, but they WILl show you a huffington post article that mentioned a government retraining program. And that's good enough, you see, because huffington post is leftist, and so are "artists" so by the transitive property, artists must have ALSO said it.
1 month ago
Anonymous
It's not, really. AI is a tool. I don't think any more or less of it than that. It's a new-ish technology that comes with an adjustment period. Like hundreds of other technologies throughout history that have come and destroyed the world oh wait no not really. There's nothing culture warsy about it, at least not for myself. Artists with professional levels of skill in their craft will be fine.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Yes but this new tool can create new data and this new data is worth zero so it's a tool that makes data worthless and if you have anything tied to data be valuable in any way you're screwed
Artist actually have no power, I mean this stuff is pre-approved before even comes out you know damn well that if they can make social justice warrior movies for 30 million dollars they're going to pump them out every 5 minutes. The only thing that's hurt them is that it cost too much to make movies. But if you can make movies and entertainment for pennies then you're going to shove your politics straight down everyone's throat. It's kind of funny watching these AI Bros think that there going to win by giving all the corporations that support the leftist policies all the power. How stupid do you have to be
And a lot of ways AI is the end of the modern internet, at one time the average person could compete with billion dollar corporations, back in the old days YouTube would allow individual creators to get views no matter what those days are gone. AI is a new form of gatekeeping it's going to change the internet to a dead place we're the only people interacting are just going to be AI. And those who have the most processing speed and money are going to be the winners. Disney lost over a million dollars and you know what their reaction was our products cost too much not that their politics have damaged the brand, but it cost too much to produce so here comes AI to fix that. You're going to get an avenger movie every week you're going to have a transgender purple haired Captain America versus the evil space kkk and don't forget about the fan art who needs artists to actually make it we'll just Spam every website with rule 34 of it and you will accept it and you will pay for it. And you know why because it'll be nothing else because they're going to outcompete you they're going to make it faster cheaper than you will ever be able to do
Nothing newsworthy happening recently either so it's probably someone trying to promote his slopshit channel like the other pajeet content farms you see sometimes.
Content farms in 2030 will use this technology to churn out infinite mind-rotting slop.
How will this effect the minds of the next generation of Ipad kids?
Joke aside, could you imagine artists actually just drawing shit and not sharing/selling it online?
Seems like 99.9999% of artists think "starving artist" is just a meme and that posting 999999 fanart pictures will make them enough money to live comfortably.
I think one of those lawsuits (which I can't find much more on) will get a techbro in court to say something stupid in front of a judge.
Like that one guy who said the model couldn't function without breaking the law and so it shouldn't be penalised, otherwise the company would shut down.
I am again and again reminded of Bradbury's Fahrenheit 451, and in particular his prediction of a future where entertainment has degraded into a deluge of worthless mass-produced slop, churned out to be a sea of random distraction, devoid of any human craftsmanship.
The problem isn't that AI is going to replace human made entertainment, it's that easily made slop is going to be thoroughly spammed by people with no talent. Look at Deviantart, it's wall to wall AI art made by bot accounts. People don't like AI, but the small majority that produce it can't be stopped.
>The problem isn't that AI is going to replace human made entertainment,
Are you sure of that? AIslop is being poured into youtube, and because it's deliberately crafted to resemble popular kids shows the parents aren't checking to see if Little Timmy is watching something made by humans or something regurgitated by an algorithm. I'm genuinely worried that we're going to see more and more people growing up quite used to watching random sewage.
Beyond that we're likely to get the digital equivalent of "The Glasgow Wonka Experience," with execs pressing the AI button a few times, producing nothing of value, then handing the results off to underpaid staff with the instructions "Do some edits to make it work." With the Glasgow shit it was actors being handed a nonsense script that called for props they didn't have, forcing them to hastily rewrite into something they could actually pull off (that was still shit), elsewhere it's going to be writers and artists paid badly to "fix" things that practically need to be redone from scratch... that will STILL be soulless shit when the dust clears.
The thing is you're going to use anything to complete a project including AI, so I really don't see the big deal right up until this Constance stream of spam. If I can get a project done using AI in part with other tools I will use it, but this idea that is going to unlock people's imaginations and democratize art is stupid. What I found out really fast is that most of the AI creators make garbage, and then get mad when it's told to them that it's garbage. The few that actually creates some good stuff usually just great porn , and then find out real fast that everyone can do it therefore no one is special, it's just a flood of garbage the few quality pieces get buried under so much of just these spamming bots. I really like the idea of it but the way it's being used right now it's just basically scammers and terrible creations. Even though porn is boring the one or two guys I was following quit so now that everyone is basically making Cub porn with it. It's sort of dystopian that the one thing we're getting automated is something so irrelevant as pictures and animations on the internet
Every single time there's an update you get a hundreds of these threads talking about how it's going to replace artists and animators. As though that's an industry that even really matters in the grand scheme of things, when I when I need my car repaired I don't go to an animator , what is the actual value of art unless it is from a famous artist it's just all kind of worthless. It's like a humanities and philosophy, some things come out of it that are interesting by a few great people but most of everyone has a degree in that field has an absolutely no real world skills. I really want AI to be making a world that's better but it seems to be just making the worthless jobs more worthless. It's not replacing retail it's not replacing actual work jobs with manual labor it's replacing the most valueless jobs basic coders modelers and some concept artists. Like that's what the world needs replaced
These prompters are going to be in the unemployment line just as fast as all the artists in animators, and the basic coders. Meanwhile the plumbers and blue collar people are going to be making so much money. Guess what a I can't fix your house and I can't do much besides make funny little pictures on the internet and maybe some videos in the future. It's basically killed the internet now everything's just going to be AI crap goodbye YouTuber influencers goodbye all those people that never really mattered it's just going to be dudes working on cars working on houses working on real crap and all these prompters are going to be sitting there sucking their dicks. People are going to have to find real skills real world work. The days of sitting in front of a computer or over because computers now going to run itself, it's been a fun ride but pretty soon the internet soon be nothing more than AI bots talking to AI bots while actual people are too busy working on real things.
If it were capable of replacing artists we'd actually see deliveries but as it stands none of this "ai" crap can even compete with the drawthreads here. It's just homosexuals spamming ads and six dozen renders of the same disney characters with slight variations.
Their prompters are not creative, I've already seen some very good stuff come out of AI by people actually try, but these are people doped up on dopamine their monkeys clicking buttons, all they do is play video games and jerk off, the next logical step is to give up on any skill and just have a computer do it for them and then expect the food to drop in their mouths. How many of them are desperately clinging onto these scams every video I've ever seen is you can make a million bucks using AI I'm going to tell you how just buy my 6-week course. The world is going to become a hillbilly redneck world education's dead all these hoity-toity book learning digital freaks are going to fall and it's just going to be blue collar people working on real stuff. The nerd was destroyed by the nerd because they actually thought the only labor cost in the market was intellectual. They could not fathom the idea that manual work and physical work exist. I watched the whole video from one of these tech bro billionaires and they kept talking about how they're bringing the labor cost down to zero with no understanding of energy cost or actual physical cost. They think that an AI programming itself somehow means that the cost of actually moving real world goods in real world services would go down to zero. They don't understand supply chains all they think about is zeros and ones on a computer and they think that's real. If it's AI stuff gets really good all digital media is going to be worthless but that doesn't change the fact that someone's got to stop the shelves grow the food fix the cars repair the houses and actual have real world work. They do not factor in energy cost or physical cost it's All digital. It reminds me of the people who lived in second Life
It doesn't really matter does it I mean it's just an AI thread is like 50 of them a day. I just find it funny that people actually think AI is not going to kill all white collar jobs including prompting if that ever becomes a thing. There's only going to be two people in the world rich people will own everything and poor people have to work on stuff that's it
They've created a machine that destroys the value of data. The entire silicon valley system is based on the value of data. For some reason this basic idea of supply and demand is hard for these nerds to grasp. If I have a machine that makes data for nothing then the value of that data is nothing. In effect they've created their own destruction. Who's going to watch a YouTube influencer when it's all going to be AI generated no one therefore the ad revenue that comes from products and services from The real world they're going to dry up. They've blown up their own system because they destroyed the value of the underlying asset which is data. Now they can try to introduce some sort of service fee but that's not going to work because they've released too much of it already. If you devalue something to the point it's worthless it doesn't matter . In the long run they've created a fundamental problem and that is the price discovery. What is this actually worth and if a machine can do it for virtually no cost then the actual value of the product is nothing. They've driven data to worthlessness. So if you run out all the digital artists all digital art is worthless it doesn't matter if you can prompt it's worthless too because the underlying skill is gone now everyone can do it. This goes across the board to any thing digital related. What they have done if they destroyed the value of the information technology economy. And then they think that they're going to drive up the value by making everything go to zero. But the real world labor cost is not going to zero only the digital
Silicon valley is overvalued and all their assets are fundamentally worthless now. If an AI can make a better operating system then why would I buy Microsoft's operating system. It's a continuous problem in order to create the systems they had to effectively say everyone's data is worthless, well if everyone's day is worthless that includes their data coming out of the pipeline. I just do not see how this system doesn't blow itself up. If software can be done effectively through AI and very very low cost then the value of the software goes way down. Instead of replacing coal miners they've replaced themselves. They have replaced the whole profession of learning a non-trade skill. No one needs an artist no one actually needs a prompter no one actually needs any of these digital freaks. It's all going to be blue collar. And very very rich people who own real world assets. The whole idea that data was the new oil was a crock of lies and data is worthless it's going back to its natural state 00 ones on a computer and that's it
Imagine a world if you will where you woke up in the morning and everywhere there were apple trees, and these trees grew continuous apples what will be the value of an apple. Would anyone care if your Apple tree was watered better and handcrafted better no maybe a few people but overall the value of apples would be nothing. And thus we are at the end of The information age technology and we are heading into a world of manual labor. Where energy costs matter we're having skills in a trade matter no one's going to care how good you are at playing a video game or making a digital picture . Everyone's been replaced that works in a digital space congratulations nerds you've destroyed yourself. Prepare for your wedgies
I think one of the funniest videos I saw was an AI supporter, that write makes YouTube videos, failing to understand that these AI are going to write and make YouTube videos for nothing and they're going to be better than anything they can create. And they'll do it for free yet these YouTubers writers and supporters of AI some reason can't see themselves being replaced. If a machine can do it better it will replace you it doesn't matter who you are you're not going to compete against a computer and a digital space I don't care how many times you think you're going to ride this thing as a tool to you or future millionaire status it's not going to work it's going to replace all digital space with AI. It can make better images music books and everything else in a digital environment but it can't actually do anything outside that digital environment so therefore the digital environment is gone and now replaced with AI. And they're already creating the farms that are specifically designed to run 24 hours a day creating content in multiple Fields multiple digital spaces and it's going to replace everyone who does any digital work.
It would be nice if people afflicted with toxoplasmosis could think about what they mean to say and then commuicate that idea succinctly. You ain't writing Moby Dick here bud.
I don't think it really matters in one of these spam threads. But yeah you're not going to be the computer in a digital space making digital stuff because the computer can do it faster and better. And it really doesn't matter what it is it's anything digital that's about it
Your contribution to the thread has not been to discuss any of the points raised but just to say "you people talk to much."
As I said, go stay on twitter, nobody will unsettle you by posting more than three sentences in a row.
Computers are better at doing computer things then people you're not going to be the computer that does computer things. It doesn't matter what computer thing it does art animation coding does not matter computers going to win in computer space that's it
Well, it's a good thing there's a whole reality that isn't virtual. Just think, a physical piece of art is kind of like an offline NFT, each one is unique and inherently valuable as a collector's item.
That's the point you're not going to defeat a computer in the computer space. There's no point in trying to compete you just have to accept computers are better at being computers than people. So anything a computer can do it's going to dominate.
If computers can make animations and art is going to dominate that it's also going to dominate anything related to that prompting anything I'm just do not see how people are going to somehow defeat computers in a digital space doesn't make any sense to me
THIS is what you want, AI bros.
Dam, dey were truly kangs n shieeet
Why would you use AI for that when you can just google a real image of them?
Google will show AI images
>Google couldn't show a white family for years
>only now image search is a problem
what are going on about schizo
NTA but if you googled "family' image search almost exclusively showed interracial or brown families. It's actually so bad that if you look up "theft" almost all the images are of stock images where white people are stealing.
>AI is so stupid that it can't even generate a image of a fricking African serval
Yeah, AI sure is doing a good job "taking over" hahahaha
The average idiot already can't tell the difference. AI is being used in news report images already passed as real, and very rarely being called out. In fact they're now running articles calling real photos AI generated in order to further confuse the masses. It's literally Wag The Dog, even worse than before because now they don't even have to pay actors or buy props anymore to completely astroturf the popular perception of reality.
>The average idiot already can't tell the difference.
Is that not a problem worth fixing?
Oh right if we did that AI would stop being needed. It all makes sense now.
The point of AI is not to replace fictional entertainment media, that's just a training ground to work out the kinks. It's to replace "real" media and news, straight up Ministry of Truth style.
It's like people are going on the Internet and telling lies. Who does that?
No longer just editing your search tags but now editing the results too
This is bad and everything, but wait until this guy finds out how much wikipedia reflects reality
I don't donate to Wikipedia because they invested money in an experiment where some black lady killed a bunch of baby octopuses. It sounds like non-sequiteur bullshit but there's a video conference thing of her talking about it.
>Why would you use AI for that when you can just google a real image of them?
You can't anymore. Google image results are ridiculously tainted by AI stuff now.
Google already got made fun of quite a bit for that.
>Irish man wearing shackles and rags eating watermelon
It doesn't mean they are going to stop. Making fun of Lefty shit in college didn't stop it from spilling out and infecting the regular world.
Yeah.
No, that looks terrible regardless of origins, and you're a homosexual
Wow garbage more automatic garbage. So we're just going to have automated kids videos that are going to be like the Spider-Man Elsa videos so exciting
It's cause they have hidden prompts being inserted before yours triggered by particular words and phrases. They wanted that shit, they just didn't expect it to occur in that blatant a fashion, and the AI doesn't give a frick about context to begin with.
the only reason i can imagine people desperately wanting AI to be good is that commies who have no skill, passion or the ability to learn and improve are desperate to 'equalize' the playing field
the issue of course is that if you're so creatively handicapped that you can never create anything, you probably won't be able to think up anything creative either
I thought most ai gays were saying that most artists were communists or something and ai would make them obsolete.
Most ai gays don't have a consistent narrative beyond how much they hate artists for being greedy sumbitches and how they're doomed to lose their jobs, nevermind that those buttholes aren't going to get any respect using AI since by their own admission the program is the one doing the heavy lifting and they themselves are 100% worthless in the process of creation beyond being the supposed "idea man"
At first AI is going to be used to make minor assets, like icons in video games and shit like that. Eventually it will become more involved but it's not going to replace artists. The shitflinging between supposed aigays and furry porn artists is twitter troony schizo shit nobody actually cares about. It's here, it's not going away, cope and work on your art.
I'm not an artist, so I don't care beyond how much buttholes spam shitty ai threads outside of their containment zones, and in my experience the people who are convinced they're going to be making trillions off of hacked ai artwork are the most annoying gays of the whole lot (although the artist doomsayers who are convinced there'll be no artists at all remaining are also annoying ).
Much like
there.
What are you even trying to say. I've been working on a video game franchise about AI development since 2012. That's my interest.
The only ones with a psychotic obsession with job loss are the AI haters, because they're mediocre. I look forward to technological advancement and job opportunities will be sorted out in the process - but the mediocre won't turn out favorably
you know that it's bad when people lose jobs, right
It's bad because there's no safety net and our society values profit
If that wasn't the case, if losing your job wasn't an existential crisis and the profit motive was handicapped so that you could create for creation's sake easily, I don't think there'd be 1/10th as much anger and anguish about it and the most we'd hear about AI slop being inherently bad would be the Miyazaki-esque bitter old men who just naturally prefer doing everything by hand and hate kids on principle
People lose jobs all the time. If every job was preserved we would still have to ride chariots and a lot of the chariot drivers would be senile.
Yeah artists can be pretty annoying, in particular online artists because none of these gays go offline and ever visit a museum or art gallery or meet actual artists irl but it's quite normal for artists to be weird. say what you will, but at least they make something. even the ones that call themselves commies aren't really, they're only commie in name and aesthetic.
AI gays are the real communists, true and honest
>Hate the notion of skill and merit
>Constant attempt to undermine skilled people
>Want everything to be the same and everyone to be able to make any ol slop
>Expect that slop to be treated with equal respect and be considered just as good and valuable as stuff made by people with skill
Commies are the ones upset over ai though
also grifters
its all going o be on the hands of the same buttholes as ever
>is that commies who have no skill, passion or the ability to learn and improve are desperate to 'equalize' the playing field
Indians?
Well, yes, them too
Y'know the saying "all crows are birds but not all birds are crows"
>t commies who have no skill, passion or the ability to learn and improve are desperate to 'equalize' the playing field
Hey look at that, even these frickers are saying communism is really just a means of consolidating capitalistic power.
Because in the end it's all about getting something of value for as little as possible in true blue Capitalism, baby! Frick paying them artists we're getting direct shit, yeehaw!
Let me see all the companies run by social justice warriors black rocks the head of every major investment company and they all want social justice politics. But guys AI is totally going to go our way I mean it's not like all the bad people in the room that support all the policies we just like are not going to use it against us. Are you guys that stupid
>Let me see all the companies run by social justice warriors black rocks the head of every major investment company and they all want social justice politics.
Yes, communism is about consolidating capitalistic power, cornering the market and preventing anything that might challenge their ability to enact what they specifically want. Since of course Communist leaders would make more money if their countries were run different, but they want control just as much because control can be worth more than money can.
>But guys AI is totally going to go our way I mean it's not like all the bad people in the room that support all the policies we just like are not going to use it against us.
They're already using media against us, openly and verbally, and unfortunately for them Lora computing is already out in the wild. Can't uncork that shit because they didn't act fast enough to clamp down on it before the normies got a hold of it. So now people get to fight back with good old fashioned capitalism, baby! Using tools to get as much value as possible with as little initial investment, that's the 'Merican way! Whether it's for personal "I want these pictures for my entertainment" value or shoving out stuff for an untapped market and getting cash for it, Capitalism only swings one way papi!
>Using tools to get as much value as possible with as little initial investment, that's the 'Merican way!
More like that's the human way since the dawn of fricking time. What a bizarre thing to say.
>More like that's the human way since the dawn of fricking time.
Good god you're dense.
Someone could offer you a sandwich and you'd bite the plate.
Maybe if you made real arguments instead of baffling schizoid walls of text about capitalism and social justice warriors the conversation could go somewhere.
This argument exists only in your head. An example of a use case in reality is character portraits in TTRPGs. I was never going to pay someone for such a trivial thing and I can't draw my way out of a wet paper bag. Luckily I can just prompt smug elf and get something usable in less than a minute. Why does that make you so asshurt?
Not the same person but you failed to understand that at some point they're going to a either regulate this or b raise the cost to a point where average people can't use it. Yes I know some people have downloaded a bunch of stuff but the best stuff is going to be coming out of these corporate made AI systems. It's basically gatekeeping in the long term, artists will still exist it's still able to make money but all entertainment will be AI controlled and it won't matter if you don't watch it because of cost nothing to make for these big companies. Think of it like this years and years ago everyone knew how to make clothing and grow their own food now they don't, in 20 years no will know how to draw and the only stuff will be able to create will be controlled by the corporations, you want to draw a funny picture well I'm sorry your prompt has been denied for being inappropriate. People that killed YouTube and made it a politically correct place are the same people who want to kill all art to make it a politically correct place through having the ability to stop an average people from creating their own little silly little memes. If you get people to lose the ability to create and the only thing they can create with is the tools control by a few people well you have total power
>Yes I know some people have downloaded a bunch of stuff but the best stuff is going to be coming out of these corporate made AI systems.
My guy I hate to break it to you but most of "The best" things in entertainment is going to come out of stuff with big purses, even if it doesn't work.
You think small budget films shouldn't exist because they can't make spaceship battles or cgi monster characters?
Good luck trying to find those little people stuff, have about a thousand marvel movies coming out a month costing pennies. AI is about flooding from the market with AI created images and AI created movies. The only reason you know the small movies exist is because they're easy to find. Look at how much AI is already flooding everything. Pretty soon 90% of the stuff you see is going to be AI good luck trying to find anything that's not. Good luck trying to find anything that is not controlled by a big corporation. Hey I want to watch a political video sorry can't find it's buried between 500 videos about some topic made completely automated and another million other videos that are going to be crappy. AI can make everything faster cheaper and can out compete any human. The only people that are going to benefit from this are going to be scammers and big corporations. You're going to get a thousand Captain marvel movies and all the comics are going to be done by AI, and it will not matter if you don't buy them because the companies will still make a profit off because it'll cost nothing to make. But I'm sure prompting those big anime breasts was worth losing the culture. Get ready for Tina the transgender dinosaur and her 10,000 episodes that cost $15 to make for this corporation
whats stopping small independent artists from using ai to make their own movies
You still don't get volume. It's not that people are going to stop creating it's the fact that the more processing power you have the more money you have the more you can flood the market. Let's say you want to see a good picture well good luck trying to find it let's say there's an independent artist that makes a good movie good luck trying to find it because these corporations can flood any website portal you name it with their content that will be automatically generated. So let's say you create a really really good movie with your AI tools how many people are going to see that movie because it's going to be buried under the content that's created by corporations. This is already happening any website that allows AI images are flooded with AI images which I'll compete the quality AI images and the quality art. It doesn't matter if it's good it's about spamming. If I can go to a website and spam an endless supply of a images I don't care if there's a few golden artists and golden AI artist I can outcompete them just on the volume of my production if I have enough processing speed and money. Yes you can get an AI to write you a based book but no one's going to read it because it's going to be all competed by the left is controlled corporations that are going to be able to make for every base book they will create a billion books with their politics
despite there being a hundred marvel movies i have never seen a single one of them because i dont care about marvel. they could shit out ten billion marvel movies a second and i would never see any of them because i would have marvel shit filtered out. in your supposed leftist controlled nightmare world you can still get a copy of mein kampf off amazon.
No one cares about Old Men, it's all about young people okay think of this in years and generations. Think 10 years down the road who won't even know any right-wing politics in 10 years. If everything's to the left they see growing up because the people control these corporations are leftists and they understand clearly those who control the young control the future. And if they can bury all the old content under AI generated politically correct content they will. I recently looked for a video and I saw years ago on YouTube it's gone it was nothing really political about it delete it forever, and those people who have the power to erase history those are the people who want AI generated content and none of you ever think why. You're giving power to people who are going to use these tools to enslave you because they're going to get kids to believe their politics vote their way and you're going to sit there and cry and regret obsessing over some AI generated anime girl breasts.
Are you prompting a chat AI to generate skitzo rants?
>I recently looked for a video and I saw years ago on YouTube it's gone it was nothing really political about it delete it forever, and those people who have the power to erase history
>download videos I like
>leftists BTFO
ez
>he thinks he'll be safe from disney presents hard drive inspection day
>Why does that make you so asshurt?
You are very bad at reading.
You getting something of value, the portrait, for as little as possible, free, is Capitalism at it's finest. Because that's what this is all about, getting something of value for very little investment.
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Fetishes gon be wildin in 10 years
Me when I find the gen b baddie who is finally willing to help me with assisted suicide thanks to her tire crushing guro fetish she got from OP's video.
thats a filter. call me when they actually animate something.
>I've been sucking my own dick, simping for known groomer John K and molesting my own niece since 2012. Those are my interests.
ftfy
AI animation will inevitably become a norm, and will replace traditional animating jobs across the board. Seething about it won't change that, so the best option now is to adapt and move forward. Traditional animation will always have it's place, but cheap-o garbage cartoons are better off being AI animated anyway.
I'm ready to tolerate that world, I just don't want people to confuse my declaration of those toons looking like cheap shit as some kind of weird luddite conspiracy instead of just the fact they look like cheap shit
I've been looking into this stuff. Ironically if I ever got rich off AI slop, the first thing I'd do is probably pay an actual animation studio to make a handdrawn 90s-style cartoon. It's not that I want artists to suffer or be obsolete. There's just no path for me to create anything if I'm not already rich and connected. That's the real existential crisis for artists. Something people don't understand: most art is commission art and has been that way since ancient times. The great Renaissance and Classical paintings and sculptures were commissioned by aristocrats, and all these great cartoons you see came out of big network demands. It's only in relatively recent times that creators and artists could self-fund or crowdfund their passions because historically if you were an artist and wanted to get noticed but had no wealthy patrons willing to pay you, you were shit out of luck. Hell the whole "modern art" thing was funded by the CIA because few big moneyed types were going to pay for that shit to be broadcast to the world.
That's why artists are seething: virtually overnight, the ability to generate images that look like high end art became virtually zero cost for the first time in human history and prehistory for that matter. We haven't hit pure saturation point (which is why there's so much cope about "AI winter and AI peaked" despite the fact there's no evidence it has) so more normies are getting in on it than not and it hasn't stabilized.
If human artists were continuously commissioned or supported, I think there'd be far less angst about this, but we haven't reached that point.
I'd probably pay a premium if it meant that there was a way to give independent animation studios a way to make their own stuff without having to worry about big networks.
>We haven't hit pure saturation point
If we haven't, we're getting very, VERY close. DeviantArt has been shilling AI art hard recently, and revealed that their "top AI sellers" only managed a measly 12k a year from over 3000 sold images. That's more art than most artists are even capable of drawing for most of their lifetime, yet not even that's enough for the top grifters of the AI scene to reach minimum wage for what's effectively a full time job.
There's more AI generated images right now than there are legitimate images taken since 1980. It's beyond oversaturated and is rapidly depreciating in what little value it had to begin with. Nothing about this shit is sustainable in the slightest, and the only people telling you otherwise are bagholders hoping for one last rugpull before shit hits the fan.
>adapt
You clearly don't know what that word means since you never go into detail what that means here. Adapt, how? You do know just because it's forced doesn't mean I have to use it right? Like the 1000s of innovations humanity made for eons isn't just there for me to access at my very whim?
Keep telling yourself that, maybe someday you might even believe the words you're paid to shill.
>The first law restricting AI
> In the EU
If it exists within the EU's jurisdiction it *will* get cocooned in red tape.
Remember how they forbid the production of candles over a certain length?
Good times
You're the one bringing anti-semitism into this, weirdo
Yes, I am, what's your point goy?
That you're about as intellectually honest as
, so stop it
What is that supposed to mean, not wanting to preserve jobs of bad artists is anti-semitic?
If you have to ask at all, you'll never get it
See, posts like that are why people want you to sit and spin along with the other AI gays out of your containment thread, people would genuinely be less opposed to AI art if the loudest proponents weren't so beyond insecure and obviously in it to boost their overinflated egos
You are literally attacking my main project I conceived with my best friend. All you care about is constructing rhetoric so your side will win, not my life.
Your life sounds incredibly boring and wasted namegay
Keep talking, I'll keep emailing AI haters and reprogram you that way.
>Actually making a franchise is boring to you
>You just want to status climb and earn clout so you can parasitize actual real artists who focus on their art
You still don't understand, this is not about artists this is about processing speed and who has the most money. If you have enough money you can create an infinite amount of content to bury anyone else's content. You can already see this with AI images if someone actually spends time making something good it's buried under a pile of other crappy images that outcompete them. Get ready for your Ubi based on your social credit score dummy.
What I said isn't about this.
Then learning from copyrighted images as a human is illegal.
A human isn't a goddamn machine you worthless bastard.
It's called logical reasoning
You will die a worthless slave you will never know the joys of being a free man being, you walk into your shackles with a smile on your face. No one will remember your name you are a mindless slave
There's nothing logical about your reasoning, schizoid.
Don't care, didn't ask, still slop
>Don't care
Didn't ask.
>AI will be used for even more incomprehensible elsagate
I'm not even against AI but frick please no
Oh my god glamrock freddy fazbear
>less than 1k views
Buy an ad.
I don't think we are approaching the point where AI can do what it promises, but I do think it is approaching the point managers think it can do what it promises and when it doesn't after removing pople who can do the job, they just wash their hands of it and redirect away from animation or customer service.
Like Air Canada tried to and got a shellacking in the courts over.
You pretty much hit the nail on the head. Chances we're going to see a lot of repeats of this exact scenario until corporate realizes its way more trouble than it's worth. It's basically self-checkout, except there isn't even a convincing veneer of usefulness about the tech.
Unless an artist can prove they learned in a total vacuum with no outside influence whatsoever they should face a copyright strike if they ever intentionally draw something. Learning from other artists is basically theft, according to this thread.
An artist isn't capable of drawing near perfect screenshots of existing movies without outright tracing, which is frowned upon. AI generation programs can, and very easily at that. This isn't even remotely comparable.
What if it's a very fast artist? You've just indicted photography as well, by the way. I agree. Too dangerous to artistic integrity. Better get rid of cameras before they make an impact on poor starving realists.
>What if it's a very fast artist?
Are you moronic?
>You've just indicted photography as well, by the way.
Taking a recording or photo of something copyrighted violates copyright. Holy shit, you really are moronic.
I'm not arguing with your point there, because I agree. But to be fair, when AI makes a new image trained on a database of art, it's considered art theft even though the new image bears little to no direct resemblance to the references.
It's considered theft because it's quite literally stealing images/data and repackaging them for profit. It violates Fair Use laws in basically every conceivable way.
Not how AI works.
Not how copyright applies to composite images.
But what if we say "nuh uh"?
Will that change how training models works?
>literally stealing
Bro, if that's stealing, then so are all those artists using art styles "inspired by" famous artists, like most anime-themed artists and almost all painters.
A huge part of why a lot of the AI lawsuits either fizzle out or never get anywhere is because the final model used to create art has 0% of any "stolen" art inside. The only time any AI-related lawsuits go anywhere is if someone in an AI field says something stupid/incorrect or they start tossing out sob stories to get people to cry.
Also,
>repackaging for profit
Only a few big dogs make profit, most people either do it for free and dump their shit on Civitai or they run some dinky Patreon for a couple bucks a month.
So long as the big, sue-able companies are not doing shit like ripping art from behind paywalls via Kemono or F95, or using some dataset that's full of questionable nudes of questionable ages, there's no reason they should be getting in trouble.
Besides, the more we lock our AI shit down, the more other countries like China and India will use it instead and fill the gap for both good and bad purposes, and AI will continue regardless. Still thankfully not getting any AI voice scammers over the phone yet, whew. I live with some gullible-ass homies.
Plus I figure most big non-AI companies using AI mostly Disney will simply train their own model on all public domain art plus their bazillion IPs, including any fanart of all of their IPs and it'd be 10000% legal with no red tape at all, so the end result is big companies with AI while us plebes would be shut out.
>then so are all those artists using art styles "inspired by" famous artists
Except as already established, that is nowhere close to comparable. Quit anthropomorphizing a computer program just to pretend this argument has any merit.
>A huge part of why a lot of the AI lawsuits either fizzle out or never get anywhere is because the final model used to create art has 0% of any "stolen" art inside.
Most of the lawsuits are still ongoing, they haven't "fizzled out".
>most people either do it for free and dump their shit on Civitai or they run some dinky Patreon for a couple bucks a month.
And those are the customers these corporations are draining to make money off of through subscription services.
>So long as the big, sue-able companies are not doing shit like ripping art from behind paywalls via Kemono or F95
They are
>or using some dataset that's full of questionable nudes of questionable ages
They also are, literal CP and private hospital data was found in these image sets.
What a depressing future no robot overlords to fight just silicon valley latest get rich quick scheme. I don't think entertainment and art have as much value as these people are predicting. Unless it starts cranking out some really good games instead of just being used to create some assets I really don't see the future in this, it really just feels like nfts all over again
If it's capable of unintentionally producing near perfect screenshots of popular works, then chances are most AI images are, in reality, just images that already exist with only slight touch ups to it. We just don't know who it's plagiarizing specifically because you'd have to trudge through billions of images to find it, but the fact that this is possible renders the entire technology worthless.
In regards to AI vs artist suits
First case got most charges dismissed in Oct 23, except the one about Stability Diffusion being trained on copyright data, which is moving forwad.
Artist refild for copyright infringement, unfair competition and breach of contract claims against DeviantArt and Midjourney. Ditching the right of publicity claim, which is what got the main set originally removed.
Mindjourney might be th weak link as it's program can now replicate film shots .
Love all these self-righteous "artists" suddenly stanning for copyright laws when it might affect their wallets, hope it comes back and bites you idiots in the ass.
Watch as copyright/IP laws get way more draconian and it becomes wholly illegal to make fanart of an IP you don't own.
I'd laugh my ass off, despite the fact I'm part of that faction of people that make fanart of shit I don't own.
Funny thing, in Japan it is, but the key is that pretty much every creator in Japan is smart enough to recognize that the majority of fan art is free publicity and that almost all fan artists are so small time that it's not worth the amount of time and money needed to sue them. It's the reason they don't normally go after fan comic doujins despite them being openly sold at conventions, the amount of money those guys get in sales is so pathetic in comparison that companies would lose more money suing them into the ground. Course, I have a feeling that shit's going to change if AI becomes popular, and if it does then it's not going to matter how many people try to make the "If AI is stealing than so is anyone inspired by a famous artist" argument, those geriatric fricks over in the land of the rising sun aren't going to understand or care about the difference and rule it as theft and other countries are probably going to follow.
They already passed law that AI is allowed for learning purposes a year ago, internally it's banned from conventions.
Makes enough sense, although I expect that's already being abused to hell and back enough to get far more draconian laws held against it sooner or later.
it's not
AI barely work as a teaching tool and its only use so far has been to make pixiv build a new server just to store aishit by how hard their servers were being spammed
You'd think that was the case with how much pricks like OP fellate how fast AI tech is improving, but funny to hear that it's been the opposite. And honestly, they're right to do so, pixiv is just impossible to search through without that ai filter.
Douchebags like OP are just trolling. They don't even post gifs and then talk about animation. They're just saving curated advertisements directly from openai's site onto their phones and using it to shitpost because of culture wars shit.
There's days I wish Hiromoot would just make an /ai/ board or whatever to shove all that shit onto, but considering how little containment boards have done to fully stop shit like /misc/ and /mlp/ from forcing their bullshit onto other threads, I dread how much worse it could possibly be than when this shit actually starts looking competently made instead of lower than youtube poop/gmod shit
It's never going to look competently made. It was a sign of the end when they moved on to video before perfecting images. All the slop clogging every corner of the internet still has that dall-e sheen and they seem pretty comfortable with that
I honestly don't know how they think that weird sheen looks good, it seriously feels like I'm looking at plastic whenever I do
>There's days I wish Hiromoot would just make an /ai/ board or whatever to shove all that shit onto,
Containment boards have never worked. they just serve to attract more morons that think they're in good company and are too entitled to stay there.
>I enjoy watching as the world gets worse because a jerk off to the thought of artists being unhappy over a threat to their very livelihood
Jesus goddamn Christ, why are you people like this?
Because they think they're going to replace artists, coders and in general animators. What they failed to realize is that it's replacing all the jobs related to anything information technology. That includes their mighty skill of prompting. Because an AI can prompt better, you cannot compete with a computer in a digital space but a computer can't pick up a hammer so it's time to learn how to pick up a hammer. The internet's going to become nothing but these Indian scammers and a bunch of bots talking to each other. And you're still going to have to go to work on Monday and actually do physical labor. They're bringing the cost of I guess you'd call it mental labor down to zero and they're increasing the cost of physical labor. So you can't be fat and sit in front of your computer and make a million bucks you're going to have to get a real job doing real things outside. It's kind of poetic a digital space control by computer it's not going to grow your food or give you a place to live. Basically they're selling digital land versus real land guess which one's going to win
>real job doing real things outside
It's worse than that, because we're also fast-forwarding automation elsewhere. Good jobs everywhere are going to evaporate, meanwhile our shared culture is going to inevitably end up more under the control of the wealthy. To actually get GOOD as an artist you need lots of practice, and you'll only get that kind of practice if you (1) have a parent's money to live off of, or (2) are able to make a living doing less glamorous low-quality art gigs.
AI is going to quickly get rid of all the "it ain't much, but it's a living" art jobs, making it impossible to hone your skills AND earn a living at the same time. Increasingly it'll just be trustfund kiddies that are able to polish their skills.
There are fricktards thinking AI will take culture away from "the elites." What it's actually going to do it make it even more impossible to become a professional artist (or writer for that matter) unless you come from a rich family.
I would say it's more likely AI is just going to destroy the entertainment industry in general. People are still going to have to live in the real world and if AI just becomes what it looked like it's becoming a Spam bot then everyone's going to lose interest in the digital space. We're going back to the 1970s
It's culture wars. In their mind "artists" are all blue haired snowflake twitter using armchair activists with a bazillion pronouns. Once all "artists" are grouped into "people I disagree with" it's not that long a trip to "no longer people" and it's okay to wish ill upon them.
It's why you'll get those guys in these threads talking about how "artists" told coal miners to learn to code. You never see them produce a single artist quote saying this, but they WILl show you a huffington post article that mentioned a government retraining program. And that's good enough, you see, because huffington post is leftist, and so are "artists" so by the transitive property, artists must have ALSO said it.
It's not, really. AI is a tool. I don't think any more or less of it than that. It's a new-ish technology that comes with an adjustment period. Like hundreds of other technologies throughout history that have come and destroyed the world oh wait no not really. There's nothing culture warsy about it, at least not for myself. Artists with professional levels of skill in their craft will be fine.
Yes but this new tool can create new data and this new data is worth zero so it's a tool that makes data worthless and if you have anything tied to data be valuable in any way you're screwed
Artist actually have no power, I mean this stuff is pre-approved before even comes out you know damn well that if they can make social justice warrior movies for 30 million dollars they're going to pump them out every 5 minutes. The only thing that's hurt them is that it cost too much to make movies. But if you can make movies and entertainment for pennies then you're going to shove your politics straight down everyone's throat. It's kind of funny watching these AI Bros think that there going to win by giving all the corporations that support the leftist policies all the power. How stupid do you have to be
Not watching.
And a lot of ways AI is the end of the modern internet, at one time the average person could compete with billion dollar corporations, back in the old days YouTube would allow individual creators to get views no matter what those days are gone. AI is a new form of gatekeeping it's going to change the internet to a dead place we're the only people interacting are just going to be AI. And those who have the most processing speed and money are going to be the winners. Disney lost over a million dollars and you know what their reaction was our products cost too much not that their politics have damaged the brand, but it cost too much to produce so here comes AI to fix that. You're going to get an avenger movie every week you're going to have a transgender purple haired Captain America versus the evil space kkk and don't forget about the fan art who needs artists to actually make it we'll just Spam every website with rule 34 of it and you will accept it and you will pay for it. And you know why because it'll be nothing else because they're going to outcompete you they're going to make it faster cheaper than you will ever be able to do
This shit isn't even a day old with less than 900 views this is your channel/video isn't it
Nothing newsworthy happening recently either so it's probably someone trying to promote his slopshit channel like the other pajeet content farms you see sometimes.
Within 10 years I'll be able to make an episode of any series i want, with a little bit of effort
In 15 I'll be able to do it effortlessly
Content farms in 2030 will use this technology to churn out infinite mind-rotting slop.
How will this effect the minds of the next generation of Ipad kids?
Ai art is Art Communism.
I just dont like that.
What if we, like, drew stuff on paper in real life where the computers couldn't get to it
Joke aside, could you imagine artists actually just drawing shit and not sharing/selling it online?
Seems like 99.9999% of artists think "starving artist" is just a meme and that posting 999999 fanart pictures will make them enough money to live comfortably.
I think one of those lawsuits (which I can't find much more on) will get a techbro in court to say something stupid in front of a judge.
Like that one guy who said the model couldn't function without breaking the law and so it shouldn't be penalised, otherwise the company would shut down.
I am again and again reminded of Bradbury's Fahrenheit 451, and in particular his prediction of a future where entertainment has degraded into a deluge of worthless mass-produced slop, churned out to be a sea of random distraction, devoid of any human craftsmanship.
I do not like your brave new world, OP.
I wonder we are gonna get robotic dogs
The problem isn't that AI is going to replace human made entertainment, it's that easily made slop is going to be thoroughly spammed by people with no talent. Look at Deviantart, it's wall to wall AI art made by bot accounts. People don't like AI, but the small majority that produce it can't be stopped.
>The problem isn't that AI is going to replace human made entertainment,
Are you sure of that? AIslop is being poured into youtube, and because it's deliberately crafted to resemble popular kids shows the parents aren't checking to see if Little Timmy is watching something made by humans or something regurgitated by an algorithm. I'm genuinely worried that we're going to see more and more people growing up quite used to watching random sewage.
Beyond that we're likely to get the digital equivalent of "The Glasgow Wonka Experience," with execs pressing the AI button a few times, producing nothing of value, then handing the results off to underpaid staff with the instructions "Do some edits to make it work." With the Glasgow shit it was actors being handed a nonsense script that called for props they didn't have, forcing them to hastily rewrite into something they could actually pull off (that was still shit), elsewhere it's going to be writers and artists paid badly to "fix" things that practically need to be redone from scratch... that will STILL be soulless shit when the dust clears.
>Fahrenheit 451
Babby's first dystopia novel.
The thing is you're going to use anything to complete a project including AI, so I really don't see the big deal right up until this Constance stream of spam. If I can get a project done using AI in part with other tools I will use it, but this idea that is going to unlock people's imaginations and democratize art is stupid. What I found out really fast is that most of the AI creators make garbage, and then get mad when it's told to them that it's garbage. The few that actually creates some good stuff usually just great porn , and then find out real fast that everyone can do it therefore no one is special, it's just a flood of garbage the few quality pieces get buried under so much of just these spamming bots. I really like the idea of it but the way it's being used right now it's just basically scammers and terrible creations. Even though porn is boring the one or two guys I was following quit so now that everyone is basically making Cub porn with it. It's sort of dystopian that the one thing we're getting automated is something so irrelevant as pictures and animations on the internet
Every single time there's an update you get a hundreds of these threads talking about how it's going to replace artists and animators. As though that's an industry that even really matters in the grand scheme of things, when I when I need my car repaired I don't go to an animator , what is the actual value of art unless it is from a famous artist it's just all kind of worthless. It's like a humanities and philosophy, some things come out of it that are interesting by a few great people but most of everyone has a degree in that field has an absolutely no real world skills. I really want AI to be making a world that's better but it seems to be just making the worthless jobs more worthless. It's not replacing retail it's not replacing actual work jobs with manual labor it's replacing the most valueless jobs basic coders modelers and some concept artists. Like that's what the world needs replaced
These prompters are going to be in the unemployment line just as fast as all the artists in animators, and the basic coders. Meanwhile the plumbers and blue collar people are going to be making so much money. Guess what a I can't fix your house and I can't do much besides make funny little pictures on the internet and maybe some videos in the future. It's basically killed the internet now everything's just going to be AI crap goodbye YouTuber influencers goodbye all those people that never really mattered it's just going to be dudes working on cars working on houses working on real crap and all these prompters are going to be sitting there sucking their dicks. People are going to have to find real skills real world work. The days of sitting in front of a computer or over because computers now going to run itself, it's been a fun ride but pretty soon the internet soon be nothing more than AI bots talking to AI bots while actual people are too busy working on real things.
If it were capable of replacing artists we'd actually see deliveries but as it stands none of this "ai" crap can even compete with the drawthreads here. It's just homosexuals spamming ads and six dozen renders of the same disney characters with slight variations.
Their prompters are not creative, I've already seen some very good stuff come out of AI by people actually try, but these are people doped up on dopamine their monkeys clicking buttons, all they do is play video games and jerk off, the next logical step is to give up on any skill and just have a computer do it for them and then expect the food to drop in their mouths. How many of them are desperately clinging onto these scams every video I've ever seen is you can make a million bucks using AI I'm going to tell you how just buy my 6-week course. The world is going to become a hillbilly redneck world education's dead all these hoity-toity book learning digital freaks are going to fall and it's just going to be blue collar people working on real stuff. The nerd was destroyed by the nerd because they actually thought the only labor cost in the market was intellectual. They could not fathom the idea that manual work and physical work exist. I watched the whole video from one of these tech bro billionaires and they kept talking about how they're bringing the labor cost down to zero with no understanding of energy cost or actual physical cost. They think that an AI programming itself somehow means that the cost of actually moving real world goods in real world services would go down to zero. They don't understand supply chains all they think about is zeros and ones on a computer and they think that's real. If it's AI stuff gets really good all digital media is going to be worthless but that doesn't change the fact that someone's got to stop the shelves grow the food fix the cars repair the houses and actual have real world work. They do not factor in energy cost or physical cost it's All digital. It reminds me of the people who lived in second Life
Please stop with the paragraphs, I'm begging you
It doesn't really matter does it I mean it's just an AI thread is like 50 of them a day. I just find it funny that people actually think AI is not going to kill all white collar jobs including prompting if that ever becomes a thing. There's only going to be two people in the world rich people will own everything and poor people have to work on stuff that's it
The nerds took over the world from the jocks, and created a machine that's going to replace them in the world's going back to the jocks it's poetic
>Thinks the jocks will come out ahead
It'll be the rich suits that come out ahead. Neither jocks nor nerds are invited.
They've created a machine that destroys the value of data. The entire silicon valley system is based on the value of data. For some reason this basic idea of supply and demand is hard for these nerds to grasp. If I have a machine that makes data for nothing then the value of that data is nothing. In effect they've created their own destruction. Who's going to watch a YouTube influencer when it's all going to be AI generated no one therefore the ad revenue that comes from products and services from The real world they're going to dry up. They've blown up their own system because they destroyed the value of the underlying asset which is data. Now they can try to introduce some sort of service fee but that's not going to work because they've released too much of it already. If you devalue something to the point it's worthless it doesn't matter . In the long run they've created a fundamental problem and that is the price discovery. What is this actually worth and if a machine can do it for virtually no cost then the actual value of the product is nothing. They've driven data to worthlessness. So if you run out all the digital artists all digital art is worthless it doesn't matter if you can prompt it's worthless too because the underlying skill is gone now everyone can do it. This goes across the board to any thing digital related. What they have done if they destroyed the value of the information technology economy. And then they think that they're going to drive up the value by making everything go to zero. But the real world labor cost is not going to zero only the digital
Silicon valley is overvalued and all their assets are fundamentally worthless now. If an AI can make a better operating system then why would I buy Microsoft's operating system. It's a continuous problem in order to create the systems they had to effectively say everyone's data is worthless, well if everyone's day is worthless that includes their data coming out of the pipeline. I just do not see how this system doesn't blow itself up. If software can be done effectively through AI and very very low cost then the value of the software goes way down. Instead of replacing coal miners they've replaced themselves. They have replaced the whole profession of learning a non-trade skill. No one needs an artist no one actually needs a prompter no one actually needs any of these digital freaks. It's all going to be blue collar. And very very rich people who own real world assets. The whole idea that data was the new oil was a crock of lies and data is worthless it's going back to its natural state 00 ones on a computer and that's it
Imagine a world if you will where you woke up in the morning and everywhere there were apple trees, and these trees grew continuous apples what will be the value of an apple. Would anyone care if your Apple tree was watered better and handcrafted better no maybe a few people but overall the value of apples would be nothing. And thus we are at the end of The information age technology and we are heading into a world of manual labor. Where energy costs matter we're having skills in a trade matter no one's going to care how good you are at playing a video game or making a digital picture . Everyone's been replaced that works in a digital space congratulations nerds you've destroyed yourself. Prepare for your wedgies
I think one of the funniest videos I saw was an AI supporter, that write makes YouTube videos, failing to understand that these AI are going to write and make YouTube videos for nothing and they're going to be better than anything they can create. And they'll do it for free yet these YouTubers writers and supporters of AI some reason can't see themselves being replaced. If a machine can do it better it will replace you it doesn't matter who you are you're not going to compete against a computer and a digital space I don't care how many times you think you're going to ride this thing as a tool to you or future millionaire status it's not going to work it's going to replace all digital space with AI. It can make better images music books and everything else in a digital environment but it can't actually do anything outside that digital environment so therefore the digital environment is gone and now replaced with AI. And they're already creating the farms that are specifically designed to run 24 hours a day creating content in multiple Fields multiple digital spaces and it's going to replace everyone who does any digital work.
The world is going to be an interesting place, it's going to be sad depressing but also a new kind of world.
It would be nice if people afflicted with toxoplasmosis could think about what they mean to say and then commuicate that idea succinctly. You ain't writing Moby Dick here bud.
I don't think it really matters in one of these spam threads. But yeah you're not going to be the computer in a digital space making digital stuff because the computer can do it faster and better. And it really doesn't matter what it is it's anything digital that's about it
>Thinks any of this is a lot to read
Go back to twitter, they have a character limit closer to your liking.
If it were valuable or interesting communication the length wouldn't matter. That's what you narcissists never understand.
Your contribution to the thread has not been to discuss any of the points raised but just to say "you people talk to much."
As I said, go stay on twitter, nobody will unsettle you by posting more than three sentences in a row.
You mean X?
Nobody ever means X.
But it is called X.
Nobody intelligent calls it X, considering it's the equivalent of a placeholder name owned by a guy obsessed with the letter X
Computers are better at doing computer things then people you're not going to be the computer that does computer things. It doesn't matter what computer thing it does art animation coding does not matter computers going to win in computer space that's it
Well, it's a good thing there's a whole reality that isn't virtual. Just think, a physical piece of art is kind of like an offline NFT, each one is unique and inherently valuable as a collector's item.
That's the point you're not going to defeat a computer in the computer space. There's no point in trying to compete you just have to accept computers are better at being computers than people. So anything a computer can do it's going to dominate.
It's like trying to compete with a calculator. Being on a larger grandiose scale, it's everything digital. If you do anything digital it's over
Call me when it can make anything GOOD
If computers can make animations and art is going to dominate that it's also going to dominate anything related to that prompting anything I'm just do not see how people are going to somehow defeat computers in a digital space doesn't make any sense to me