>Stan Lee came out with a kind of formula, where he would give a personal problem to his characters. To his bad guys and good guys. So they were now a good guy, but had problem finding a girlfriend. Or they were a good guy but had a bad leg, which, apparently, having a bad leg is considered a "character trait" in that kind of comic book. So this is a two dimensional character. There's nothing really to them. They don't resemble human beings. If you want a three-dimensional character, you need to take that further.
Why does he hate everything?
Bitter old Marxists are like that
He liked The Sopranos and The Prisoner.
Also
the whole reason I started watching wire was because I read an interview where he was asked if he watches tv and he said the wire is probably the most interesting thing atm (at that time)
He is right tho
because everything fricking sucks
He's a bitter old man. I can't help but sympathize with him as a leftist, and to a certain extent I do agree with him, I'm just way more distant.
Also, when it comes to Superheroes he just kind of hates the entire industry with a passion for the business side of things.
stan lee fricking suckssssssss
i read the original spider man comics and all the dialogue is so moronic. fricking braindead piece of shit.
Shut up Alan
It's because back then, these comics were written literally for little kids
>back then
They're for kids, you moron. It was to help children learn to read, and not have to read some shit like Enid Blyton.
Unironically this. I can't believe that homosexual robbed us of so much kino Kirby and Ditko dialogue.
stan lee is a bullshit artist
the man is creatively talentless but a good businessman, like kevin feige
Legs look weak.
>If you want a three-dimensional character, you need to take that further.
exactly, you need to give him a bad leg AND trouble finding a girlfriend.
>exactly, you need to give him a bad leg AND trouble finding a girlfriend.
and on that night intersectionality man was born
alan moore has no self-awareness and shouldn't teach
There’s literally nothing wrong with what he’s saying here yet people will seethe. You wouldn’t get away with writing a character taking inspiration from Stan Lee era comic books because it would crash and burn in the current era. He’s giving good advice.
He's right and he's wrong, but mostly wrong. The thing is to use that characteristic as a starting point. So let's say you have a character who can't get a girlfriend. Fine, but why? He's an incel? Why? Because he jerk offs until his wiener bleeds. Now you're starting to build a back story, you're building character.
He’s not wrong in the slightest, he literally says to do what you say to do. “If you want a three-dimensional character, you need to take that further.”
Why is Peter Parker burdened by responsibility? Because his uncle died.
>3 dimensional character
>99% of the time just some "aaahh I'm so depressed and anxious and brooding and dark and edgy" shit
Characters don't need to have any traits at all. All they have to do is want something and do their best to get it, i.e. the plot. Anything further and you end up with vain nonsense
>Characters don't need to have any traits at all
>All they have to do is want something and do their best to get it, i.e. the plot.
You must love My Hero Academia
Motivation is the primary starting point for a story. Conflict is the next major point. "What does the character want, and why can't he get it?" is what they teach in any worthwhile scriptwriting class.
>If you want a three-dimensional character, you need to take that further.
Which is what
3d animation
he's basically saying 2D pig disgusting
Yeah Black person, they were two-dimensional because they were comic books made for children. The whole point was that they had simple, understandable flaws that could sometimes be brought up in a 4 or 5-panel strip, but otherwise didn't get in the way of them SOCK BIFF POW'ing bad guys, or could sometimes be brought up in the middle of a big situation so they can just say HOW WILL BAD-LEGMAN GET OUT OF THIS ONE?
Because kids don't care about the fact that this character doesn't agree with Nixon's economic ideas or that there is a brutal war going on in Vietnam. Those things aren't important to a fricking superhero for kids. They want Spider-Man do to Spider-Man things like shoot webs and punch bad guys in the face.
>BAD-LEGMAN
Sounds like a Kojima character.
a man denied his cane
shut up stan you are a hack
Stan Lee Marvel comics were longer than 5 panels, it's not fricking Garfield. Also the idea that stories have to be stupid for kids is promoting them to grow into stupid adults.
Does that even BEGIN to deconstruct the genre? Jesus, how prosaic.
3 dimensional characters are characters that are so fully fleshed out that you understand why they do the things that they do
1 dimensional characters are characters that are bad/good because they are bad/good
2 dimensional characters are the same as 1 dimensional characters except they have some trait that makes them stand out
Stan Lee is at the same level as the Peppa pig creators.
Designing a character in isolation will always be lacking some depth. Only after writing a full story, having them pursue a goal and develop relationships with other characters can you get an organic 3D portrait of them.
Spider-Man has goals and different kinds of relationships with tons of other characters.
>they are supposed to be 2 dimensional.
Why are adults still reading stuff for kids?.
Grow the frick up already.
I have never heard anyone criticize the classic comics work of Stan Lee without sounding like a total homosexual. Allan Moore is no exception.
Alan Moore is an insufferable c**t, but his work is leagues better than Stan Lee's (the work he didn't steal).
>Alan Moore is an insufferable c**t, but his work is leagues better than Stan Lee's (the work he didn't steal).
No it isn't.
>Born in Northampton
>spent entire life in Northampton
>loves Northampton
>talks like a Brummie
He's always right btw
went to northampton once. good shoe museum.
Yep it's basically just shoes and Alan Moore, even though I've never seen him queueing up at Sainsburys or anything. Nice place to grow up around though.
I watched a few of these videos on youtube but it really doesn't seem like he knows what he is talking about.
Or just really shit at explaining them, but still I'd rather go with him being a pseud, which is probably true based on how he explains character dimensions.
>Dude what if capeshit but with sex
>comics used to be for kids!!!!
they still are capeshit numales
Who is Alan Moore's most well written character again? I don't watch capeshit
Rorschach maybe
When I got rid of my superhero comic books Alan Moore's were the only ones I kept. Say what you will about him as a person but he's one of the best to ever do it
Does he talk about his famous fish rape comic after this comment?
>you need to take that further.
Yes, you need to add some EDGE. Usually involving rape. SO complex.
Alan Moore is a magician, isn't he? I tought occultists hated pop culture and/or tv in general.
Still, sick roast on Stan.
reminder
Deep down Stan Lee knew he was a fraud, you can tell from the way he acts in this interview
Sounds jelly as frick.