Alright I'm just going to come out and say it
Norm Macdonald isn't funny. Yeah i get that you are supposed to snicker at his jokes with a sly twisted mouth because its so intelligent and the audience are being mocked, but that is a cope for having shitty jokes. He was also very up his own ass, he was smug and hid behind a calm personality while he mocked and showed his arrogance to others. Just look at his twitter, he likes to attack people personally and thinks that whatever opinion he has is the correct one because he is so smart. I've seen anons talking about stand up comedy as if it's some huge respectable art form, while they only name the same comedians over and over again. Can you Norm fans stop pretending he is funny and intelligent and see the broken confused man he was. His whole career lasted off a arrogant attitude, he put no effort into anything and got away with it because people fall for his arrogance and sardonic personality. I'm not glad he's dead but I'm so tired of anons pretending he was some genius and falling for the mask he wore.
He's a little funny sometimes. Very overrated by Cinemaphile
norm is one of the greatest comics ever and no one matches his level of deadpan dark humor
I've never heard a joke of his that made me laugh until I was crying and nauseated. He's, dare I say it, mid.
>until I was crying and nauseated
lel
Contrarian spergs are boring.
how was his humor dark? he basically stole old timey jokes and make them unfunny.
he has jokes about suicide, alcoholism, and cancer, if you don't recognize Norm as dark you haven't watched much norm, I'd reckon
9/11 was a national tragedy
Bob Newhart.
He's a comedians comedian
If you don't get his humor maybe try someone like Jim Gaffigan, i dunno
>a comedians comedian
oh what a cool secret club you have. You anons who suck his dick must be really funny comedians! maybe hes just shit? you never hear of a musicians musician, they are judged on their own merits. its as if norm cant be criticized because to his fans any criticism looks like 'this person doesn't get him like I do because I'm part of the comedians comedian club'.
dude you are hyperventilating.
>you never hear of a musicians musician
Wrong, I actually hear that phrase a lot when people describe more niche artist
>you never hear of a musicians musician
I have, you're just a moron with no actual hobbies or interests so you don't get that within every hobby there exist people like this who are good to the point that they only really impress other people in that hobby.
I have a lot of hobbies and interests, I am a musician and I don't think that a musician is worth a thing if he only appeals to other musicians. Besides its a dumb thing to say that norm was a comedians comedian when he appeals to mouth breathers on Cinemaphile. I like most of the older comedians that norm liked, i respect his love for dangerfield but everything about norm and his fans is arrogant
> I am a musician and I don't think that a musician is worth a thing if he only appeals to other musicians
You must be a very poor musician if you can't understand what this term means. It's used as a way to refer to someone who DESERVES more views, but might not get it because people are fricking plebs and want their music in a specific packaging and don't want things that break the mold too much.
It also refers to musicians who create music that is so complex, it can only be appreciated fully by other musicians. A recent example I can think of is Tim Henson. The opening riff alone is so technically complex, it's hard to imagine playing it yourself with all the mute notes and techniques he employs.
As for Norm, he made jokes that were often too smart for the audience. That and being conservative are the only reasons morons hate him.
it has nearly 6 million views...
6 million views is nothing in a world where the average pop star gets like 500 million to billions of views.
Cool he got a couple hundred dollars from Youtube while Angry Black person #182 gets millions for mumbling about pussy and lean
the point you were trying to make is that some music can only be enjoyed by other musicians who understand complexity, you posted a youtube video with 6 million views. you made a bad example
It's a perfectly good example of a musician's musician. I can show this song to someone who knows nothing about music like my dad and he will say it "sounds nice". It's a completely different reaction from people who know how to play guitar. Anyone who plays even a bit of guitar is basically in awe of the complexity of the song.
The technicality is trivial compared to whether or not the music is good.
>The technicality is trivial compared to whether or not the music is good.
And now you understand why the term "musician's musician" exists. It's because of morons like you who can't appreciate technical excellence.
Sure he might be a musician's musician, but a composer's musician? No way in hell.
how many millions of views do you think the videos of the comedian's comedian Norm has? You fricking dolt
Yeah and Norm had a Netflix show that got millions of views, he hosted the fricking Espies, and was on SNL. Getting attention like that says nothing of his sense of humor just like a few million views on Youtube says nothing of whether some random guy has mainstream appeal in music you blathering moron. What world do you live in where 6 million views is mainstream shit? You sound like a Boomer with no concept of scale on the internet
no, its just that i mainly listen to stuff with under 500,000 views so 6million is very popular. the noodling on the guitar unironically appeals to smooth brains to go 'woah'
The difference between 500,000 and 6 million is not huge. Getting low views isn't the point, because anybody of a certain skill is going to get a certain amount of views. There are plenty of comedians who were much less successful than norm and it's because they suck. Someone like Norm stayed afloat because other comedians found him funny. Letterman threw his weight around to get Norm a Netflix show back when that meant something after he went on his podcast. He got all kinds of weird roles in comedic shows because all of the writers saw him as an old great. Whether Norm was a comedian's comedian isn't even really something that can be argued because it's objectively true.
Reminds me of that tragedy...
lol
600... 6 million... What's the difference!?
Noodling wankshit guitar over trap beats
>As for Norm, he made jokes that were often too smart for the audience. That and being conservative are the only reasons morons hate him.
how is a bad joke smart? hes a comedian, its meant to be funny. His arrogant veneer fooled you into thinking a bad joke is too smart for other people to understand. People understand Norm, he was/is very popular, he preformed for the clintons ffs. hes not some underground comedian
Thousands of hours playing the sweet flute in front of your grandmother doesn't make you a musician anon
>you never hear of a musicians musician
?????????
I hear that term thrown around all the time to refer to musicians who are very technically excellent and who compose music that is super interesting, but not to a layman who only wants the same 4 chord progressions you hear in every song.
absolute midwit cope
>you never hear of a musicians musician
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarence_%22Gatemouth%22_Brown
>wahh he was rude on twitter
you literally sound like a twink right now, OP
Black person
I saw his last session in front of a camera on Netflix and he would make me lol from time to time. He has a great way of talking like no joke is coming and then hits you with the bazinga.
Norm IS funny.
>you are supposed to snicker at his jokes with a sly twisted mouth because its so intelligent and the audience are being mocked
wut, this isn't even close. that's more of a Letterman thing. His stand up was never for me really, he's just a funny person. Like when he fricked with those youtube awards people or his podcast or his book. Those are all peak Norm. His secret weapon was not giving a shit if people liked him which is the biggest transgression 99% of comedians make
Of course he's not funny, he's dead.
We're coming for you, Fatrick. Pringles Can John has died and you're next.
just say you dont own a doghouse op
Yeah but you're a moron and no one cares what you think.
is that ryu from street fighter?
His name is Keno and he is our guy.
https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0103060/
You expect me to read that hah?
>he put no effort into anything and got away with it because people fall for his arrogance and sardonic personality
I feel personally attacked
More of a comment really
OP is wrong.
He's a nice fella.
I remember the first time I met the guy.
We were hanging out under the Queensboro bridge.
How much does he charge?
It wasn't him, but he was talking to this Adam Egret guy
Giving handjobs to punks.
$15 a man!
i saw this really funny youtube comment that said the same joke. This is just as funny seeing it on Cinemaphile. norm lives on!
dude, hitler.... bad guy *looks into the camera with a sly look and puckered lips*
I literally died of laughter, what a joke!
This but unironically.
norm is an anti-comedian but he hated the term and hated other anti-comedians who did the same shit he did. that is his arrogance.
The more I learn about this OP fella, the more I don't care for him!
More of a comment, really
>if i dont personally like something it must be literally objectively rationally shit!!
grow up kid. people have different tastes
norm was probably a reasonably smart guy but nobody turns to him when they're looking for "intelligent" humor, thats some dumb ass strawman you made up. he's funny as frick, and witty, sure. But "intelligent"? no, and i dont think anyone except maybe some dumbass redditor has ever claimed so
see
True complexity is always humble, unlike this wankfest pseudo-bach nu-speedmetal shitfest with a compression pedal arbitrary flavoring.
>Here's why x is bad and if you like x you are bad too
>Discuss.
Norm knew the holocaust was fake.
I agree with you. He wasn't funny. But his last stand up was a little funny.
Zoomers, ladies and gentlemen. So unbelievably narcissistic that they have to announce to the world when they are filtered.
>butthurt tim heidecker OP
But stuff like the moth joke are anti-comedy even if he refuses to admit it.
no, not really. If there's a meta joke there, it is on the medium (tv) not the form (comedy). He's taking several minutes of the valuable airtime on tv and telling a long joke which completely subverts what you'd expect to see on the Tonight Show. The joke itself is very funny and he's not mocking the idea of being a comedian or telling jokes
the moth joke is an old joke, he just made it long as an act of anti-comedy.
no, you can say it's anti-comedy, but it's not.
Did he type this drunk?
he claims he never drank but there are videos of him drinking (tom green show)
>replying to bait
You frickers are too easy.
you remember the saying "Speak ill of the dead"
911
At least you're somewhat trying to be reasonable I guess
I always liked him more as a troll than a comic tbh. Him fricking with the audience/hosts are some of my favorite bits
*comedian
I know right? Ever since he said those awful things about trans people I just can't support his type of comedy anymore.
>Norm Macdonald isn't funny
I can understand people not finding his standup material very funny. He was at his best when he was just shooting the shit with his friends on a podcast.
idk I really like him. I'd really like to hear which comedians you prefer. I'm genuinely curious
Yeah he was a bit mid
*unzips dick*
*pisses on grave*
rest in piss old Normie
op doesn't own a dog house
>pretending
Bait post or not, the "people" out there that characterise others as liking something they don't as only "pretending" to will never not be one of the most subtly arrogant fricking things a person can do
ITT homosexual OP outs himself as a pathetic and ridiculous moron
What a waste of existence you are LMAO, some people do need to seriously consider suicide