Altered Carbon

Almost six year and Netflix is incapable of making anything that even near the amount of kino that was Altered Carbon season 1, even season 2 sucked dick.
Why streaming services have so much trouble making good series nowdays? Prime video make a good series once in a full moon, but even then only by having the show be low budget enough for the higher ups not to meddle with it.

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  1. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Season 2
    >Altered Cabron

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      which is garbage

  2. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    season 1 impressed me
    felt like something that was clearly it's own universe--almost like TNG or Hercules or Xena--and only felt like 'a show' the last three or so episodes.

  3. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    S1 was really good. Nice cyberpunk setting. S2 was cheap globohomosexual garbage (so standard Black personflix garbage)

  4. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is the book worth reading?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      The book was cool, really shines the light on the places that are underexplained in the show, like what Envoys actually are and other moments.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        The first book is really damn good.
        The setting is interesting, the characters are all interesting and flawed, there's some moronic shit in there but for the most part it's a great story.

        Thanks aonons. I'm going to read it, then. It seems that every time, sequels are just a cash grab. From necromancer also just the first book was decent.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          You mean Neuromancer? The only other book I can think of that would be worth reading is Snow Crash, but if you've read Neuromancer, I assumed that you've already read Snow Crash.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Snow Crash is nearly unreadable

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              in what way? it's very accessible, big satire and not as brainy

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                it's garbage. the whole hiro protagonist thing is so cringey it hurts. the narrative shifts don't work and the overexplanation of things is terrible. it's clear that it was originally meant to be a graphic novel because it doesn't work any way else

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                the whole part with the Sumerian info dump was so boring I almost dropped the book right there

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yes, Neuromancer. Drunk typo haha (also frick autocorrect). Never heard about Snow Crash so, I guess, another thing to look into.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Count Zero is an incredible book you fricking pleb.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      The first book is really damn good.
      The setting is interesting, the characters are all interesting and flawed, there's some moronic shit in there but for the most part it's a great story.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >any book
        >good

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >t. Black person

  5. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    needs to be a fan edit of season 1 without the flashbacks, those are the worst part of an otherwise really good show

    they should have just ignored the books completely and gone wild with the cyberpunk crime noir aspect and an original story

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >they should have just ignored the books completely and gone wild with the cyberpunk crime noir aspect and an original story
      thats literally the book, they changed it to this shit schlock at netflix you fricking moron

  6. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    season 1 sucked too. any scifi dystopia shit that feels the need to have nature or some shitty setting outside of said dystopia to subvert the mood isn't worth anything at all. it's worth less than nothing.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      The hell are you talking about

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Black space jesus woman being ugly ruined it. Absolutely horrible miscast. They should have cast Misty Knight who they brought in for S2 in S1 as the Black Space Jesus. The woman being ugly ruined all sense of credibility even though it was a mixed race swirl romance. Woketards always cast the most unattractive black people. Its one of the ways you can tell if a show is woke.

  7. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    The second book is fricking kino and deserves to be adapted into a movie
    Go read it seriously

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >muh unapproachable ayys artifacts
      Didn't impress me.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >The main character becomes a moron who gets his team killed and permanently murders a man who didn't actually do anything then suffers no consequences or even cares about it
      >The actual killer is let off because woman
      >Alien ghosts for no reason who drive you insane with grief because we're The Spirits Within now
      >Back up technology is worthless because everyone just blows out the spine anyway
      It's fricking awful and I regret finishing it.
      Altered Carbon was fantastic, Broken Angels was pure trash and it put me off reading Woken Furies since it'll likely only get worse.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >put me off reading Woken Furies since it'll likely only get worse.
        It does.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        I can barely remember the 2nd and 3rd book. Is the one you read where they're on some industrial planet with a nanoplague? Anyone who liked the show should read the first book, the role of the daughter is severely reduced.

  8. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    It was pure luck S1 worked even as well as it did despite it being a mediocre adaptation of a great book. Later seasons were going to suffer under the paired burdens of trying to work around the holes S1's bad adaptation produced, and the weaknesses of the latter two books of the trilogy, neither of which achieved the literary punch the first one delivered.

  9. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Let's ripoff a bunch of scifi tropes and turn it into a bland police procedural

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      thats where kino comes from anon they just fricked it all up

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Let's ripoff a bunch of scifi tropes and turn it into a bland police procedural
      name one time this wasn't kino

  10. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Watch first episode
    >Dude what if Ghost in The Shell but Bladerunner
    It's fricking shit

  11. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    hollywood hates him

  12. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    the books are not fricking good, one step about halo novels

    this show is cursed because no one cares without Joel Kinnaman, and the story can't continue with that character and the actor could get much better roles

    I have watched s1 about 20 times

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I unironically like the halo novels. They're the only fiction books I read.

  13. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    S1 was solid. Watching it helped me get through a bout of flu or some shit. And I had plenty of honey whiskey as well. Good time

  14. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    it's always the accident when creative team isn't controlled. season 2 is what netflix makes on purpose

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >season 2 is what netflix makes on purpose
      Deep. But prolly true.

  15. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I watched S1 on my 1080p 24" in 2018.

    Few month ago I bough LG 65" and I rewatech S1 in 4k

    Amount of details is pure KINO

  16. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Where is the voice that said altered carbon would free us from the cells of our flesh?
    >The visions that said we would be angels.
    >Instead, we became hungry for things that reality could no longer offer.

    I do not know who is behind S1 script, but its better than book.

    They did really good job.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      god i loved that short latina cop. I'd let her do unspeakable things to me

  17. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    They did some hype pre s1 with steve aoki documentary like trailer

  18. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    the first Season of this show was frickin' heat. i never watched the second Season cause Anthony Mackie didn't seem like a great replacement for Kinnamen, Kinomen has a shouldering intensity i think Anthony Mackie lacks.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Mackie is too zesty to play a jaded straight foward guy like Kovacs, but the worst part is that the Mackie sleeve is "military grade sleeve for special forces" which means he has actual super powers, super strenght, faster regeneration, super senses. Season two tries to ape the marvel shows way too much.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >military grade sleeve for special forces" which means he has actual super powers, super strenght, faster regeneration, super senses
        goddamn it, that could have been so cool if they hadn't recast the lead. why is the special forces sleeve a 5'10 black guy with no build? lmao

  19. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I mainly liked the ep where he is taken hostage in a virtual torture chamber and he manages to escape. Gnarly, bloody, and somewhat engaging to watch.
    I remember many of the characters being quite shit. This includes: main guy in the past as an asian, his moron sister, his moron mentor, some kind of autismal AI that saves the day with her stronk tbh ex machina powers.
    Only other guy that was fine was the butler.

    The scooby doo ending was the shit cherry on top.

  20. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    It was garbage

  21. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >season 1
    >kino
    try reading the book and then tell me if you still like it

  22. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Cards on the table, no irony or shitposting from me here
    I don't care about novels
    I don't even care about the deep plots or thoughts about society
    Altered Carbon, at its peak, SUCCEEDED in being generic
    It was Joel Kinoman: Future Puncher, a guy who just spends all his time wandering around Rainy Neon City, shooting douchebags, solving crimes and fricking women of wildly varied ethnicities and personalities

    In a more civilized age of television there would have been seven seasons and 156 episodes of that shit and our argument in this thread would be "Yeah I loved it but it started to fall off after season 4 when they added the CGI robot monkey"

  23. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >tfw no psycho hapa sister gf

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      too flat

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