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>Am I supposed to feel sad that he died? Dude was an butthole
he's right tho i felt nothing
Seems like a you problem.
no problem i enjoyed other parts of the book
>brownhands.jpg
not true but even if it was it would be still leagues better than being (You)
feepybeep
>What if your friend died? Wouldn’t you feel bad then?
>But my friend didn’t die.
It's a little heartbreaking knowing a lot of people don't actually have souls. Scary that people just react to their immediate stimuli like an insect.
he was nice until the ring turned him you moronic little homosexual. are you watching while posting and have no attention span? ill spoil it for you since you are a little moron the same thing happens to frodo later.
but he overcomes it because hobbits are more pure hearted than man so get corrupted less.
>he was nice
for the two seconds we did get to know him before that
>he was nice until the ring turned him you moronic little homosexual.
Boromir did nothing wrong. Using the most powerful weapon in the land in the defense of the last bastion of civilization was the objectively right thing to do.
Gandalf's crazy hobbit mule infiltration plan was moronic from the start and only worked because of literal divine intervention.
Ah, yeah, possession of a ring worked so well for the nazguls, just look how their kingdoms prospered ...
>he was nice until the ring turned him you moronic little homosexual. are you watching while posting and have no attention span
Actually in defence of OP in the theatrical version we get no sort of character development from borrimir other than him being a dick and in the extended (iirc) we dont get any sort of indication of him not being a dick and only becoming a dick because of the ring by the flashbacks with faramir
Theatrical gives sufficient you consoomer homosexual
>but he overcomes it
He clearly doesn't in the film as he puts on the Ring and Gollum fricks it up.
I wouldn’t even say its the ring, it’s because denethor is a crazy butthole of a father to boromir and faramir, faramir also tries to take the ring to gondor in the second film
denethor's character assassination is one of the things I hate the most about the movies. A sympathetic character driven to the depths of despair because he's lost faith in divine providence after years of holding the enemy at bay, believing he's seen the finality of their victory in the palantir thus wants to die on his own terms is instead turned into a crazy butthole who's sabotaging Gondor because...reasons?
His introduction with Aragorn kinda paints him untrustworthy, then during the meet he is the one suggesting to use the ring, those two things taint his character from the start.
you say that knowing what the ring is as a viewer. as for Boromir he only knows its Isildur's bane, he doesn't understand the mechanics of it. it's just a very powerful object and his ancestor lost his shit because of his lust for power. he doesn't know it's a literal piece of Sauron that actively corrupts the weilder as well permanently turning him into a ring wraith. so using this omega weapon that buffs whoever weilds it to God status in order to defeat the enemy is objectively the right thing to do.
furthermore, his dad has been pissing in his ear telling all the other races want it for themselves but feign neutrality. he attended the meet thinking he was in the midst of his enemies
>but he overcomes it
No he doesn't. Both in the movie and in the novel he gets corrupted.
He was an butthole but I feel it’s important to note that he had a chance to put on the ring and he gave it back to Frodo as ordered instead
He immediately recognized his error, apologized, and made amends in the best way he knew how.
This. And his speech to Aragorn before he dies redeems him entirely.
Patriotism kills
>Dude was an butthole
Yea how dare he try to save his people and make his father proud?
Yes? Exactly? Fricking idiot?
He had a good relationship with the hobbits, but his final conversation with Aragorn seemed rushed.
>but his final conversation with Aragorn seemed rushed
Almost like he was dying or something
be at peace son of gondor
It’s daughter now you bigot
...would
I mean it's female Sean Bean. You'd have to out of respect.
for england, james?
Of course a slag like you wouldn't understand.
What is this from again?
The Terror
God's Cinemaphile was strong then
The terror and chernobyl threads were amazing. Imagine the brotherhood kino if there was no moron bear on the terror
The apostrophe implies possessiveness so unless you're talking about a Cinemaphile owned by God it's "Gods".
He was conflicted and by the end stayed true to do good, he never actually did anything wrong and managed (not alone) to fight the temptation, so by any means he remained a good man.
>First book actually has stakes and anyone could get killed
>Second and third books: bring back the characters that died or bring back their identical-characterization "brother" because they became fan favorites.
Artists need to be banned from seeing any public feedback on their works.
Really Merry or Pippen should have died.
>because they became fan favorites.
Wtf you on about? The book was written in full before any of it was published
Boromir doesn't die in the first book.
>or bring back their identical-characterization "brother"
Why would boromir not have brothers espcially since hes the Kings son. Also faramir was nevercorrupted by the ring unlike boromir.
Boromir dies in the second book, same one where Faramir appears, you dumb frick
>normalgays genuinely believe Tolkien wrote his works with "fan feedback" from Twitter or something
maybe next time he won't forget to take his shield. frick, he could have used it to stack wood on, like any normal person would have done that has gone camping.
lol inner-city spoiled kids.
He seemed like a pretty cool guy. He just faltered at the end but redeemed himself anyway. The scene where he's sparring with Merry and Pippin is comfy kino.
woman moment
>m-my homie
>my KANG
Will you marry me?
No men can resist sin, only God can
He realised his wrong doing and asked for forgivness, wholeheartedly
Thats what christianity is all abt
that's just excusing being a shitty person
I'm sure you're a paragon of morality. "Yet he who is without sin" and all that.
A shitty person would never truely regret any wrongdoing
>so mr wizard, your plan is to install this ranger as our king? and the proof is what, elrond, who installed his brother as ruler of numenor and found this ranger in the wilds? oh, the thief has a ring. thats it? one ring to rule us all? sounds very sauron like. and that black speech? why do you know it? this all seems very convenient that your hobbit friends, elf friend, random rangwr claiming kingship woth hearsay proof and now you want to destroy the only thing that would help us win. not even destroy. just hand deliver it to sauron himself. this is no fellowship. this is a conspiracy to destroy gondor and all mankind on this earth by you elves and freak races. you are already corrupted by the ring. it is clear as day.
famous last words
>He says, moments before he is -ACKed by elves tired of putting with humans and buried in a shallow grave so more human moronation doesnt hinder the quest.
>Sorry gaya-I mean Faramir we havent seen your brother, he must have gotten lost on his way here.
boromir and sam are Cinemaphile
frodo and aragorn are reddit
The orcs are Cinemaphile
GROND GROND GROND
Yes have seen a couple of youtube videos now sucking aragorn's dick for having the right kind of masculinity. That is being the chosen descendant of superhumans, being an expert swordsman and singing poetry to his immortal wife.
Boromir paints a much more compelling image of humanity imo. A conflicted prince, tempted with power, fallible but ultimately having a good heart and sacrificing himself for his friends.
>Aragorn is reddit
You shut your prostitute mouth
You wouldn't happen to be a woman or a Black?
The book does a much better job of explaining why Boromir is an butthole. All his life he's lived in the shadow of the line of kings, missing for thousands of years and not expected to ever return. He should be king but a ridiculous ancient tradition is cucking him.
Never got an butthole vibe from him in the books. He was just a blind patriot to his people, not a bad person but not someone who could ever see beyond tribalism. Someone like that is exactly who the ring was made for. He was practical and logical, but served his country exclusively as his master. The matter of the Ring is beyond worldly biases, it would corrupt any country, any race and could do so purely through logic. Boromir was the equivalent of LATS GO INGERLAND
But he's not logical. He thinks he knows better than people who are a hundred times older than him and know a hundred times as much. Compared to Faramir he's kind of an butthole.
He isn't even an butthole. His whole fall to the ring is based on the fact that he is a protector- of Gondor and innocent people generally like the Hobbits- and his biggest fear is not being strong enough.
He sees Frodo first after nearly losing the ring to the Nazgul and being rescued by Aragorn, then has to keep him alive through the mountains and Moria where he saves him from the watcher and sees him nearly die to a troll, and pulls him back from going to Gandalf when he's fighting the Balrog. Of fricking course he wouldn't think this little moron can handle the responsibility of having the fate of all the world in his hands. He's strong. His father is strong and wise. It would be crazy from his perspective to let Frodo go on ahead into even greater danger. I don't think he's even spiteful to wards Frodo over it. He just sees him as a little guy in over his head.
Most of that didn't happen in the book.
In the book Boromir was the one who threw the rock in the water and disturbed the watcher iirc. Sam cut the watchers tentacles.
Book boromir swung his sword as hard as he could at the troll and didn't even scratch it, then Frodo stabbed the same troll and wounded it.
>Television and film
Movie Boromir is not an butthole
>fact that he is a protector- of Gondor and innocent people generally like the Hobbits- and his biggest fear is not being strong enough.
are there any other examples of the ring exploiting people's fears? it seems to alwas be about pride and power
It's called a balrock T, the stupid fricking midgets awoke it in Khazad-dûm. Now every fricking jerkoff that goes through Moria gotta kick up 15% of their mithril to it.
Get the frick outta here, I ain't kicking up no 15% even if he is a balrog of gondor!
Shouldve worn plate cuirass, or at least some nice chainmail. What a cuck.
He has mail on his sleeves. Presumably he has a whole shirt. And arrows go through armour routinely in lotr regardless of the type.
Arrows went through armour routinely IRL too. And chainmail isn't that amazing at stopping them to begin with. Not as bad as the typical fantasy fare portrays it but still.
chainmail is good at stopping lethal arrows, ones intended to cause a lot of tissue damage. arrows good at penetrating chainmail generally dont cause too much damage
Eh, you do have a point but an unlucky hit is an unlucky hit. A torn artery will be losing blood from movement even if otherwise there isn't that much damage. A proper breastplate is better but then you run the risk of wearing yourself out sooner due to weight and more limited movement.
>A proper breastplate is better but then you run the risk of wearing yourself out sooner due to weight
Something that the fantasy genre rarely gets right is that battlefield armour isn't something you would go travelling in. The aesthetic of a knight in armour adventuring is so kino that everyone accepts it but for practicality it would make no sense on a journey like the fellowship's. Boromir was carrying everything he used by himself.
>The aesthetic of a knight in armour adventuring is so kino that everyone accepts it but for practicality it would make no sense on a journey like the fellowship's
It would definitely be impractical.
doesn't Ulthor frick that b***h while wearing full plate armor in that movie kek
this trope is way older than the fantasy genre. i just looked up a don quixote 1662 edition - he was depicted as traveling in full plate harness
>don quixote 1662 edition - he was depicted as traveling in full plate harness
The man is also crazy and models himself after knights in chivalric romance stories he has read. The armor he puts on is an antique, not something people actually wear into battle in his time.
Not really a good example of the trope.
It implies the real origins though, ie medieval depictions of King Arthur or the Greek heroes which show them always in their armour.
Yeah and Don Quixote was a schizo
Every time someone talks about the crusade they have to talk about how knights in the desert would drown because they jumped straight into water so much they were thirsty and then sank down because they were wearing their armor.
Armies fighting == people travelling == people travelling in full suits of armor.
Yeah not that comfortable, they still did it and they looked better than the armorless peasants while doing so too.
Crusades era armour wasn't plate harness, plus they had a baggage train for a lot of their shit.
someone's second cousin heard a beggar was told by a water hole protitute this happened and it became history because it ended up in someone's letter to someone else.
Full plate was notoriously difficult to put on and it required the help of one or two squires I doubt people woudl just wear it constantly, considering how medieval battles involved a lot of field preparation and etiquette, armies didn't usually just clash out of nowhere.
>And arrows go through armour routinely in lotr regardless of the type.
You are too brainwashed by fantasy in media to realize arrows routinely pierced armor in all ages of mankind, even fricking now arrows can pierce kevlar and riot shield
Show me an arrow piercing a riot shield
Do your own fricking youtube search this isn't declassified militar area 51 fricking information
>kevlar
Probably not the rigid kind. And definitely not metalloceramic plates inside carrier vests.
Are riot shields this thin? I guess it's reasonable to have them as light as is practical because carrying around heavy equipment fricking sucks.
>Probably not the rigid kind
arrow goes straight through a rigid kevlar ballistic shield and keeps going out the other side.
Ah yes, keep forgetting that we now have composite bows, carbon fibre arrows, exceptional quality stainless steel arrowheads when I think of "bows and arrows". And the thing that punched the projectile all the way through is a crossbow in all but name.
Shut the frick up, you mongoloid, humans are having a conversation.
That dude in the vid is only scrawny. A compound bow with the draw set higher could probably go all the way through too.
Fair. We have probably brought bows to their maximum potential by now. No wonder the most powerful are getting banned all over the world. Sad, but at least somewhat understandable.
Arrows could achieve some penetration at some parts of some plate harness. Lotr has arrows punching straight through the centre of a breastplate. If anything it's fantasy media that gives the opposite impression where armour barely matters most of the time.
Arrow shafts shatter when they hit something resistant at high speed. Irl tests with very powerful bows against historically based replicas show that mild steel at thicknesses consistent with museum pieces will make splinters out of arrows shot from very powerful bows.
Those bows were calibrated for giga-Black person strength and would punch right through armor.
this.
those weren't regular orcs, they were Black person-orcs
woman spotted
Dumb speedreader
>A great man can be felled by one arrow... Boromir was felled by many
Pippin's words are a testament to how much of a badass Boromir was
It's why I stopped watching Game of Thrones after Sean Bean died.
begone, thot
>load up battle for middle earth
>play good campaign
>have Gandalf wreck the Balrog
>save Boromir from the Uruk-hai
yup, I'm thinking it's kino
hell yeah
For me it’s The Third Age. Criminally underrated RPG.
Anyone tried this?
I have, yes. It's pretty good.
I fricked up. I had gotten this one.
I've only played Shadow of Mordor. It was fun enough, but not very lore-friendly.
he was led astray by a israeli rabbi allegory(sauron's influence). lotr is a pagan tale
>fundamentally religious and Catholic work
>my king
he asked only for the strength to defend his people
Remember when costume design was really good.
I do, and it saddens me deeply.
Me too anon.
I liked some of her costumes especially when shesriding off trying to save frodo, that was cool asf. I liked Eowyns clothes too.
>And long there he lay, an image of the splendour of the Kings of Men in glory undimmed before the breaking of the world.
might be my fav bit of writing from the whole thing
Arwen's dress in Aragorn's dream was pure SEXO
Very much so.
Look I know you’re just posting relevant webms and adding to discussion but the way you said “very much so” sounded reddit af, just check yourself. You might say cringe shit like that in public. Unless you’re Christopher Lee delivering “Very much so.” you definitely sound moronic. Anonymous out. (< that last part was ironic)
very nice happy new year
Indeed
Remember when they were actually in a forest and not some green screen shit studio
that scene in the bts where jackson scouts the lake beach where they arrive in the boats, and it's exactly the same in the movie down to the fricking tree branches in the foreground, only the far background is cgi'd with some fog and shit. IF someone filmed on location today they'd still cgi 70% of the environment.
kinda weird that the higher-up city guards in gondor get mithril armor but Denethors favorite son gets frick all.
only their helmets were made of mithril.
Boromir literally went to war in full Gondorian armor kit, they showed as much. He was a soldier, sure, but you don't bring a full set of forged plate armor when you're going off on a diplomatic mission to have a meeting. Where do you even keep it? It's not like it packs down in a backpack.
He was wearing his day-to-day soldier's clothing and travel kit just like everyone else.
he was the only one that had a shield, and the only one that died because he left his shield
sitting back in camp.
a soldier..no. more like daddy put him in a position he should have never been in.
>he was the only one that had a shield, and the only one that died because he left his shield sitting back in camp.
Sure, but that's because they were literally out gathering firewood when they were surprise ambushed by Uruks. Saying that just because he owned a shield means that he should have had it strapped on and ready for combat at any given moment is entirely nonsensical because it's just not how people work. Also his dad didn't just put him in armor and call him a hero, Boromir was a veteran who had fought with the Gondorian infantry multiple times.
i've gathered firewood. I would have used my shield as a tool to aid.
as stated, he didn't belong there and was culled.
>bunch of white and browmn kiwis made these kino costumes.
>Most of the orcs are kiwis and background characters
What a time.
Yes. I was sad and cried the first time and third time after too. I love this movie
What do you mean sad, he was a member of the Fellowship and he died, they had to give him a closing scene because he's an important character, it doesn't need to make you sad.
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>here's your century-old elf, bro
The frick is wrong with this setting?
Such easy casting and they manged to frick it up.
There is literally nothing wrong with raping elves.
Left to their own devices elves will refuse to frick and slowly die out. Raping them is an ethical responsibility to keep the population strong.
Why is Middle-earth so stagnant technology-wise? Can we reasonably expect Gondor to undergo an industrial revolution at some point?
dat bad cuz sauronman did it
Not just Gondor. It is the age of man, magic is rapidly fading (more often just sailing) away from Arda. Dwarves still remain in some quantity but they are probably dwindling.
It kind of went backwards and then stagnated after the fall of Numenor. It's similar to medieval Europe after the collapse of the Roman Empire. There were some splinter human kingdoms that trucked on for a while, similar to Byzantine. But those also fell apart over time.
Tolkien didn't like industrialism. The natural world being good and in line with God's vision is one of his recurring themes.
>Can we reasonably expect Gondor to undergo an industrial revolution at some point?
Yes. Magic is disappearing from Middle Earth together with Elves, Dwarves and all sorts of mythical creatures. It is the Age of Man from that point onwards. The Mythological Magical age is over.
Thank you for the concise answer.
>Tolkien didn't like industrialism. The natural world being good and in line with God's vision is one of his recurring themes.
I really hate that speech Gimli gives after the Battle of the Hornburg where he talks about "good industrialism" and how it's capable to still respect the land while exploiting it for capital, lol. Tolkien was so naive
Well we all know who Tolkien based the dwarves on.
>There it is: dwarves are not heroes, but calculating folk with a great idea of the value of money; some are tricky and treacherous and pretty bad lots; some are not, but are decent enough people like Thorin and Company, if you don't expect too much.
How did Rowling get away with this?
evil demigods and their minions running about destroying or subverting all that is good in the world probably isn't all that conducive to forward progress.
you blind? she's only 117 years old.
you sick frick elves brains arent fully developed until they are 2600 years old
Where would you want to live in Middle Earth?
I'm a Shirehead but realistically I'd be a low ranking orc shoveling shit in Mordor
The Shire or Bree. Alternatively if its after the War of the Ring, Minas Tirith or Dale
Objectively, the correct answer is in or directly around the Shire so you can breed thick shortstack Hobbit women.
Bree.
Bookgays will claim without any irony, sarcasm, hesitation, or braincells that this absolutely kino ruined lotr somehow
This is a television and film board, and as such the trilogy and especially the Fellowship are fantastic films.
>especially the Fellowship are fantastic films.
Fellowship is so good it moggs everyother fantasy movie.
It actually wasn't good, sounds too modern == homosexual
This one was a masterpiece in comparison
Enya is based, and her Into the West song for LotR is lovely.
I appreciate LOTR films for their craft and they're the best adaptations that anyone could have reasonably hoped for, but there's still a lot of dumb shit in the movies and Jackson completely excises a lot of the Catholic messaging because he's a fat atheist more interested in violence and toilet humor
you suck Black person dicks so who cares what you think?
Something can be good but still pale in comparison to true greatness. That's not to put the good thing down, but to elevate the great thing even higher.
>name is Borrowmere
>merely wants to borrow the Ring
bravo hackson
>we wuz elfz and shieet
anyone have the webm of the dwarves forming a shield wall in the Hobbit?
it's one of the few good parts
FOR ROHAN!
>this literally happen with people trying to kill each other like this
is this supposed to be realistic
It's real. All of it.
Elrond might be half-human, but why did they feel the need to go all out and cast agent Smith as him?
>slashes once
Then what? What even happened with the shields?
The shield guys are standing in the row behind. Once they are done with their slashing they fall back behind the shield guys I would reckon.
pls remember your breastplates too.
>he wasn't there for the battle of helm's deep
>no spears whatsoever
Okay Achilles.
That was pretty capeshit right there
>cavalry in a movie
>no one ever shoots or stabs the horses
Watched Waterloo today and the officer in this webm is shouting "fire at the horses", was pretty good.
I actually just watched Unforgiven the other day and they shot a horse to knock a guy off. I mean dude it’s like a 85% chance you’re gonna die if you’re booking it at 40MPH on your horse and crash cuz it got shot, right? Almost never happens in film
Can't imagine even a well-trained horse doesn't spaz out and frick up the charge for other riders once it gets shot.
Old westerns did horse stunts but the talent pool of stunt riders and horses has largely died out
thank god for that to be fair. how many more baldwin like trials would we be seeing.
Poor horseys.
Great movie, also i guess getting the horse to behave as if it's shot probably has something to do with it being uncommon.
Look at how colorful it is. Wow.
Colour is for nerds.
Is that Timothy Chalamet? What bino is this so I don’t accidentally watch it. Not that I can even see it from how bad the lighting is in that bottom image.
A mediocre take on Shakespeare's Henry V, without any of his dialogue.
Can’t see shit.
Just watch Branagh's 1989 version, or Ran if you want Shakespeare kino.
wasn't cavalry used mainly for pursuit and flanking? horses usually don't like running into pointy sticks
For some reason in movies horses are always used as battering rams to punch through a phalanx and stuff.
Depends on who, where, and when you are, really
in the high middle ages infantry didnt have the training level to fend off a cavalry charge
>grabs sword to die showing fealty to his king
Youtube comments are alright sometimes
>"ORCS could be here" he thought, "I've never been in this forest before. There could be ORCS anywhere." The cool wind felt good against his bare nose. "I HATE ORCS" he thought. Far Over the Misty Mountains Cold reverberated around the campfire, making the company sway even as the half penny ale circulated through his powerful thick veins and washed away his (merited) fear of wargs after dark. "With a pony, you can go anywhere you want" he said to himself, outloud.
Please be in London baby sweet
Post boob and vagene
sean bean is a good actor but miscast here. Hes supposed to be giga chad strongest human in the kingdom. Him failing is supposed to reflect how power the ring is. Its corrupts everything..
Of course a troony would understand it
idk who this guy was, he tried to steal the ring from Froyo and the got killed lol
>Sean Bean on the set of Fellowship of the Ring, was annoyed with his co-stars wanting to shot scenes quickly in the cold to avoid freezing. They wanted to wrap the scenes so quickly, that the crew barely had time to set up new shots, in utter frustration you can hear Bean say "Give them a moment, for Peter's sake!". Refering to director Peter Jackson. Out of pure spite for the actors, Jackson decided to keep it in the film as a reminder to never rush him or his crew again.
does anyone have the edit where it keeps changing the angles and cutting so it looks like hes getting hit endlessly with arrows lmao
good thread
you a woman OP?
Gandalf's sword must be great.
Glamdring 🙂
It was the sword of the King of Gondolin so yeah
Can we talk about how Gimli son of Gloin was completely unaffected by the ring?
Motherfricker immediately tries to destroy it. Although the attempt fails.
he was more of a malt beer, red meat off the bone type of guy. maybe it just wasn't enough gold for him to care.
dwarves are by nature resistant to the rings influence.
even sauron was suprised when the 7 rings he made for the dwarfs didn't work as intended. instead of turning them evil and enslaving them, all they did was make the dwarf wearing it more greedy.
gimli was a gigichad among dwarfs
>dwarves are by nature resistant to the rings influence.
is this real?
is so, are they related to Tom Bombadil by chance?
Yes, Tolkien said it in Appendix F of the LOTR book, that Dwarves were basically immune to the influence of Morgoth and Sauron. The rings were meant to play on the inner nature and desire that the people holding them had, which for Humans was a craving for power and control and status. Dwarves however, only really ever wanted to sit on bigger and bigger stacks of wealth and use that to style on other people, which is why Tolkien says very few, if any, Dwarves ever actually turned to serving the Dark Lord.
Besides, by the time of the Fellowship, most of the Dwarven holds had been lost for centuries and Sauron wasn't really offering to help them reclaim their old domains. I'm actually pretty sure that there weren't even enough Dwarves left in the world to reclaim Moria or Erebor by that point.
>and use that to style on other people
??
I think he might be referring to how everyone would go to the lonely mountain and give gifts to an already rich beyond measure king.
Yeah man, the whole reason the Dwarves dug up endless piles of treasure and built giant cities designed for shock and awe inside their mountains was so that all of the Elves and Humans and whatnot who came to trade with them would be humbled by their displays of wealth and power. That's pretty much the entire point. Dwarven kings cared about one thing above all, and that was making sure that anyone who saw them knew exactly how rich they were, which is why they covered entire mountain halls with gold and israeliteels and decked their armies with plate armor made of the most intricately engraved art and opulent weapons. Because to them, styling on anyone who came to visit was how they won respect.
Is that why the hobbit is all about them getting dunked by an even bigger israelite? Like scorpion and the frog "one's nature being their downfall" thing? I'm sure there's a deeper meaning but I'm calling anons trannies in 4 other threads and need the brain power right now.
>calling anons trannies in 4 other threads and need the brain power right now
God’s speed.
>Is that why the hobbit is all about them getting dunked by an even bigger israelite?
Dwarves and Dragons have always been kindred spirits in a way. The difference in Tolkien's world is that Dwarves at least were willing to share and spend their gold, they traded with Elves and Humans partially because they needed things like food in their mountains, but also because the only way to style on people and flex your wealth is to actually give it out. That's why the town of Dale existed in The Hobbit, because Humans settled just down the river from Erebor because that was where all the money was coming from, and they were able to thrive by selling food and stuff to the Dwarves.
Dragons, on the other hand, don't really flex on anyone. I mean, in their mind they do, but they just kill anyone who comes near their stolen hoard, and they just chill. Dragons don't spend gold, they don't do displays of power or gifts to flex their wealth. They just like having gold because it makes them feel like they're ruling over everyone.
Well it makes everyone seethe and cower in fear by Smaug just existing.
didn't smodge take pride in the gems encrusted into his tummy?
you're forgetting gold madness or whatever it is called, which is basically going from flexing on people, to just becoming a dragon and getting satisfaction from sitting on it. I don't think gold made smaug feel like he was ruling over anyone, dragons are just pure physical greed. If there were no one to rule smaug would be happy with all his gold. That's why I think it's a scorpion and frog story, the notoriously greedy creatures find that there is an even larger greed, and that greed will never cease no matter how much gold you have. I'm talking outta my ass but possibly the entire hobbit is about the dangers of passions, all of which can never be fully satisfied.
>gold madness
graybush called it dragon sickness iirc
>is this real?
This anon
already said it well, they're extremely stubborn little fricks so sauron could never corrupt them like he did with men(extremely weak will beings). Granted the rings still had some effects on them, it made them greedier
dwarves simply don't give a shit.
it's also why sauron got butthurt and used all means to try and recover the 7 rings.
but 4 of them got swallowed or destroyed by dragons, sauron only managed to get 2 of them. and the last ring was in possession of Thráin II but it got taken from him when sauron's forces had captured him.
it's not just a mental component though, it turned the humans into undead nazgul so...
>it turned the humans into undead nazgul so..
The rings themselves didn't do that, Sauron did that. The rings just enslaved the will of the kings that wore them to Sauron's own, corrupting their spirits and binding them to his dark magic. He actually raised them from the dead himself as ghosts.
wasn't that the witch king, that raised them?
witch king was human also once, he was simply the strongest of the 9
They were the first to have been brought into the world. Aule the Smith made them before elves were created, but Eru told him to put dwarves to sleep for a time so that the plan can go forward.
The thing about Dwarves is that they literally live on top of entire mountains of gold and gems. So giving them one single magic ring on top of the billion of others they have (and bear in mind that lots of Dwarf hoards are FULL of shit made by ancient elves from the old days because that's just how they rolled back then) isn't really going to entice them to much of anything. It'd be like giving the Prince of Dubai a really nice watch in hopes that you can blackmail him with it later. Motherfricker already has entire warehouses full of them, it's not that big a deal.
Also Dwarves aren't really the type to care about conquest or rulership. They don't want to join forces to control the world, they want to enjoy their mountainhomes and not be bothered with the short and petty lives of Men.
Yes.
lowest iq post on the board, good job.
He got mindbroken by the ring, even frodo got mindbroken as well in the end, but I think people should notice that the rings doesn't make people evil. Just look the difference between boromir and smeagol, the later killed his fricking beloved cousin in the span of 5 minutes in contact with the ring while borormir held on for weeks and even when he failed he never tried to kill frodo, only begged for the ring and then tried to take from frodo but he never had killing intent, because he was a good guy deep down. That's why gandalf was afraid of it, he knew even him would eventually get mindbroken by the ring just by being near ir so he was happy frodo went alone in the end.
to be fair, now hear me out on this..
that episode seemed to be almost like a lovers quarrel. in the white heat of passion (in that lovers triangle) someone was (accidentally) strangled.
I think the unstated difference between Smeagol and Boromir is that the Ring was always "alive" and always wanted to be brought to Moria, but when Deagol pulled it from the riverbank it had been lying in the mud down there for like 2500 years without anyone so much as approaching. So when someone finally found it, it lashed out powerfully and eagerly to ensnare someone in case it would just be lost again.
But with Boromir, the Ring was already well in-hand and was moving. There was no point in trying to overwhelm Boromir to push him to snatch the thing and run, he wouldn't have made it anywhere. Instead it waited for the moment when there was the opportunity, when Frodo was alone and the Uruks were nearby, so that it had the best chance of being taken and getting where it needed to go.
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He wasn't an butthole he was just desperate to protect his homeland and the ring preyed on that weakness.
Its ok that you normie didn't understand Boromir, but he is a very important character. He is there to show what happens to the best of men when close to the ring. He embodies the average human. And he gets corrupted just by being close to that thing.
He is surrounded by an angel, the equivalent of captain america, an almost 3000 year old elvish highborne and a dwarf warrior royal who is 4x as old as him.
Even most of those fricking hobbits with their natural resistance to the ring are older than him(Sam is the youngest with 38 years, Frodo is 50).
He got corrupted but managed to do the right thing in the end.
>the best of men
he wasn't the best, he was the favorite.
are we clear on that?
t. not the brother or the dad
He died an Hero's death.
Not something you'd understand.
>He died an Hero's death
no he didn't. a random archer filled him full of darts.
He was on the verge of despair, while Aragorn forgot his duty as king.