I watched Godzilla Minus One and while I enjoyed it. People are overpraising the hell out of it. It has over an 8 rating on imdb and it won an Oscar for Best special effects. I really think it's overrated to the max though. I think people are rating it higher just because it's a decent movie and non-Hollywood. As far as the special effects... of course they're good, but Hollywood's are even better. There were times in Minus One where I thought some effects were a bit off, and I have never felt that way with the newer Hollywood ones. Yet Minus One wins an Oscar for best effects? It makes no sense. Yes there was less of a budget and less people working on it, but still. Hollywood's effects are better. In fact, Hollywood's effects are incredible. There is more movement of Godzilla in the Hollywood movies, whereas in Minus One.. Godzilla pretty much does the same slow zombie-like walk looking ahead with a straight face and a robotic-like body, with only the odd shot where Godzilla does movements like turning its body and opening its mouth and also when its moving in the water. I can imagine the special effects teams of the Hollywood ones and even for other Hollywood movies thinking to themselves, "Yeah.. they didn't deserve that Oscar". But then you get all the clueless people that have never done a special effect in their life saying how superior it is so they can feel smart on the internet and companies like IGN making Youtube videos titled "Godzilla Minus One Did VFX the ’90s Way and That's Why It Won an Oscar" as if they're all knowledgeable and letting us know why. When in reality, the truly talented VFX teams know the truth. And the Hollywood teams will know that the Hollywood effects are better.
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I personally think the Japanese version winning an Oscar is an insult to the Hollywood VFX teams, not just for their Godzilla movie.
Even though I enjoyed Minus One, I think story and character wise was pretty typical of Japanese and Asian films where it's corny and cliché trying to pull on the heartstrings at times. It would have probably been hated on if it was made in America.
the shots of mid-grown Godzillas head moving through the water following the mining boat and the closeups of its face look photo real. better than closeups of real costumes and puppets.
it looks like a ps3 game homie, even JP cgi from ages ago beats it
This isn't your blog, gays
GTFO
>but Hollywood's are even better
Which 2023 Hollywood made movie had better special effects than Godzilla Minus One?
Good point. I wasn't even thinking that there might be less movies with big effects in 2023. I was just comparing this Godzilla to the Hollywood ones. However, I have just had a look at the other nominees and they are Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3, Napoleon, The Creator and Mission Impossible Dead Reckoning. I've seen Mission Impossible. I don't care for Guardians of the Galaxy, but I saw the first one when it came out, and I am certain that the effects in volume 3 will be much better than Godzilla Minus One. Hell, in Guardians of the Galaxy you're creating full environments as well as characters, ships, etc. Godzilla Minus One is like a fricking robot.
Its not good. Corny soapy plot and a horrible main character
Spot on with the "corny soapy plot". I've noticed Japanese and Asian films lean into these easy clichés to easily get you emotional.
That scene where he goes on his "am i already dead" rant was fricking cringe, Godzilla opens up infinite possibilities for real human drama and suffering and this is what you do?
This garbage actually won a visual fx Oscar lmao the movie looked like shit
There are youtube shorts that look better than this movie
Shin Godzilla is the only good Godzilla movie in the past two decades. Minus One is alright.
Shin shits all over this movie, it's the hard truth
The cgi is somehow worse than the first american godzilla
Minus One>>>>>>>>>>>>>Shin Godzilla
It's a CIA psyop to encourage mass immigration.
Just nice to have a cozy movie after shinslop.
>people shill it as the movie of the decade
>gets rightfully trashed now that people can actually see it instead of hearing endless shilling
These kinds of fans are insufferable, clearly very little about the film interests them and it's all political.
I agree people are hyping up the effects too much and the CGI looked video gamey at times, but Minus One was also a very good movie.
The special effects can be pretty rough around the edges. Some of the water particle effects are noticeably granular, here it looks like styrofoam balls rolling off him. Also some aliasing in numerous shots.
>The special effects can be pretty rough around the edges.
>Aw, da water doesn't look right!
>Looks fine.
Ya know, I'm just gonna wait till the next Godzilla movie where Cinemaphile will champion Minus One.
Could you do me a favor and tell me if you notice anything strange about this puddle of water?
I feel like the confusion is from normies who are conflating scene direction and composition with VFX. Like they see him destroy the battleship but don't have the knowledge or words to articulate why the scene is good so they call it VFX. I love Minus One but it's obvious the Hollywood films just have better production on all fronts.
For the record I think it's easily among the better godzilla movies but if we are judging it solely on VFX it's clearly a budget project. You can actually see where his mesh is being deformed by bones, while the MV version has fat, muscle, skin deformation etc. It's also no coincidence so much takes place in the ocean which is a CGI freebie. I'm also wondering if the budget caught up to them in the latter half of the movie as he seems to look cheaper and cheaper as the film goes on.
>they see him destroy the battleship but don't have the knowledge or words to articulate why the scene is good so they call it VFX.
the scene where the ship explodes from the atomic breath under the water? how is saying thats ‘good VFX’ not accurate? its a visual effect of a ship exploding
Yeah, it was shit compared to Shin Godzilla. Don't know why people are making such a big deal out of this run-of-the-mill japslop.
It was significantly better than Shin Godzilla.
Minus One was the Japanese equivalent of a Marvel movie.
>muh capeshit
If Minus One is Japanese capeshit then Shin would be as well. Shin Godzilla has two sequels that are literally about superheroes.
Marvel movies aren't bad because they're about super heroes.
They're bad because they're soulless corporate products. Neither Minus One or Shin are like that, both are soulful no matter which you prefer.
Cinemaphile calls everything capeshit, it's lost most of its meaning.
I feel like I'm losing brain cells reading these threads.
I forgot about it in less than a minute.
>it's bad because i'm moronic
the greatest (and most common) of all arguments on Cinemaphile
Godzilla the Kdrama version
I have yet to see it but I read it’s more serious like the original. Perhaps some are giving it more praise for the film than they otherwise would have because of this. It’s like when there’s comic relief in an otherwise serious movie. A director may choose to put comedic moments in to mitigate some of the tension, but there’s also a good chance people won’t take the film as seriously as intended. With Godzilla they played it straight and serious which is not something the Japanese usually do with Godzilla movies.
It's definitely one of the Godzilla movies that's most similar to the 1954 film.
I wish it was as serious and dark as people say
Minus One looks like a Dreamworks movie. I kept expecting Godzilla to look at the camera and do the Dreamworks eyebrow.
That pose he strikes when they sink him is especially cartoony
>Dude our American pink Godzilla which suplex king kong is definitely better because...because it just is okay?
Both films were good but Minus One is the better movie overall.
Godzilla Minus One is the Nolan Batman of Godzilla movies.
It's like an American Godzilla movie but with Japanese actors. Truly awful.