Amazon Attacks Returns

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Either
>Reboot
or just say frick it and stop trying to have these big initiatives/long storylines and just scale it back for a while.

Rebooting is the entire reason we're in this mess because nobody really wanted to get rid of the old continuity but they can't actually go back to it so there's this weird hybrid that pleases nobody and then stupid ideas (like everything with Lian) added on top of it. A full on reboot is never going to happen again. Debooting back to OYL DC is basically the only actual solution.

The reset is going back to what was working before DiDio got a bug up his ass about 52 not turning out like he wanted. A hard reboot will completely kill them.

>nobody really wanted to get rid of the old continuity but they can't actually go back to it
But they absolutely can, who's stopping them? It's their fictional universe, they can shape them however they want.

It's not like she's a Wonder Woman character now or something, she's just helping them out because of their connection.
Besides, Billy and Mary are the only ones in the Shazam Family currently with powers, let them do their own thing.

I mean, the Shazam Family has kinda always had an inherent connection to Greek mythology, Hippolyta is part of her pantheon, and they recently had a story where she helped them out, so I feel that counts a connection.

He has his own book and Amazon stories tend to be all about girl power, so it makes more sense to use Mary.

Now you're being a pedantic douche

I thought you people hated the Shazam family.

My best bet is that Cassie, Donna, and Artemis are gonna show up in the main WW book by King, and this book is for the leftover Amazons.

If that's the case then every female superhero should be showing up in the book then.

You're exaggerating, this is strictly an Amazon story, they literally can't have all female heroes in this book, Mary is here because of her connection to the Amazons, and because she's the main female character of the Shazam franchise, it makes more sense to have her here than Billy.
Also I think they did have "all" female heroes in a Wonder Woman story once lol, but it was mainly just quick cameos.

What is there to excuse? Is it also a problem that Diana isn't in this book?
The main WW book can have the more popular characters, while this one has the rest, I think it makes sense.

Really? She has the main book, she's going to deal with the problem there, the point of this book is to focus on the perspective of other characters.

I mean, yeah, they show up, but it's usually small roles, cameos, or as supporting characters, just what I expect Diana to get in this book.

I wasn't comparing this book to something like Action Comics, where Superman is still very clearly a main character.
In my mind, I was thinking of a book that focuses on a different character from the franchise but still has appearances from the main character, something like a Red Hood book with an appearance from Batman, or a Superboy book with an appearance from Superman.
I'm sure Wonder Woman will show up in here, but this book doesn't focus on her.

You're missing my point, hopefully not on purpose.
It's not about whether it interferes with anything or not, this is about which characters the story is about.
Superman is the main character of Superman Lost, that's a self-contained story about him, Amazons Attack isn't about Diana, it's about this specific group of Amazons, think of it as something like the current Steel or Catwoman books, they're spin-offs to the main book.
Also, Superman is a much more popular character than Wonder Woman, so he gets more books about him.

Well, yeah, but they're doing something different here, so WW will deal with the conflict herself in the main book, while this ragtag group of Amazons deal with it in this other book.

Well anon have you ever thought to stop and think that your point is a bad point?
This book is about the amazons but not about any amazons fans would care about but the "amazons" some shit for brains wants to push.
The bullshit readings for this is off the charts.

Well, that's how DC works, if you don't like it, you can do your part by simply not buying the book.

>it makes more sense to have her here than Billy
Not really, both have the same connection to the Amazons.

Billy is connected to Zeus who is Wonder Woman's dad so yeah I would Billy has the exact same claim to be part of this event using your own logic.

Hippolyta isn't really involved with the amazons here either so once again your logic has failed you.

>it makes sense to have Mary here,
It doesn't though anon, there's zero investment here.

Being an honorary amazon doesn't mean anything. It happened in a shitty tie-in comic to a shitty crossover event and trying to build off that is the wrong move.
This is how DC continuously fricks itself over because it keep building off of rotten foundation.

>Well, shitty event or not, it still happened.
If nobody actually read it, did it?

You know what my problem with your bullshit apologia?
Let me demonstrate.
>Oh Donna and Cassie MIGHT be in the wonder woman so obviously they also couldn't be in the book about the amazons
>oh Mary doesn't have her own title? Better put her in the book about the amazons
You see the problem there right anon? It's pretty fricking obvious what the problem is to me but I want to see if you can figure out what the problem is here.

Well that doesn't make me feel better at all because Tom King is fricking horrible at writing women.

Could have skipped that last word tbh

The Amazons have a contentious relationship with Zeus and Diana isn't even in this comic anyway.

First impressions do matter.

That was only after Hephaestus saw them killing the boys and took pity on them and started buying them from the Amazons.

Apparently Azzarello didn't think the idea had potential cause they all got slaughtered by Donna troy and the Amazons when Diana tried to integrate them back onto Themyscira.

The salt in the wound being Azzarello made sure the brotherhood of hephaestus was more welcoming and nuturing then the Amazons, even having them preach the idea of loving submission.

Has there ever been any commentary on the prevalence of killing all men in feminist utopias? To me it seems insane, but people just sort of nod their head and go "hmmm, interesting thesis..."
This is without going down the route of "a misogynist says women are good for one thing, a feminist says men are good for nothing" that also never seems to be mentioned by anyone other than incels.

>The thing about that anon is that's a misogynistic fear of male writers
I'm pretty sure it's been a feminist thing from the start, what with things like Herland.

I mean the Greeks outlasted the Scythians.

>reaffrim their misogynistic fears.
Their objectively correct fears.

>but no one who writes Amazon or female-only society as good is doing it to own some 3000 year old chud.
William Marston, the guy who created wonder woman, did do that though. He made themyscria a utopian society as an intentional subversion of the greem myths.

I would rather be a healthy pervet then a unhealthy prude.

Wee bit hypocritical too.

Um, sweetie, stop trying to make this gender-based story about 1/2 of the genders.
Ok, thanks, bye.
Try to do better.

>Apparently Azzarello didn't think the idea had potential cause they all got slaughtered by Donna troy and the Amazons when Diana tried to integrate them back onto Themyscira.
That's both stupid and lazy.
You could have done a lot with regrets, loss, and resentments.
Maybe certain Amazons marked their son's somehow, maybe some of those sons want nothing to do with their mothers.

this moron doesn't even know what was Azzarello and what was the Finches