>be Lord of the Rings fanfiction writer
>Amazon plagiarizes your story and makes it about white colonialism and drumpf
>file a lawsuit against the wealthiest company in the world
>you are not only told in a court of law that you didn't get plagiarized, but are ordered by that court of law to destroy the evidence that you were plagiarized.
What are some other great triumphs against creativity, Cinemaphile? I remember a few years ago, there were the Marvel posters that had designs identical to those on DeviantArt. What ever happened with those?
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This is funny.
nah, just israeli
>banishing a fan fiction author to the Shadow Realm
fricking hell, how do they ever plan to enforce that shit
Does anyone know where I can find this Polychron's books online?
Just find a TLDR somewhere, it's pretty bad but some bits are funny at least
wtf
bars
>amazon considered this a threat
Funniest part is it's more creative than them.
THIRTAIN RANGZ *smacks lips* FO ENCHANTED BANGZ
He wasn't a fanfiction writer. He was publishing and SELLING his unofficial fanfiction books. That's like pirating games or movies then selling them online. It's illegal, and he's a fricking moron. Play stupid games win stupid prizes. Not even trying to defend a billion dollar corporation. If some c**t took your small scale OC and started making his own fanfic and selling it and keeping 100% of the profit without your permission you'd be pissed too.
Damn I miss the ancient times when no one gave a frick about this shit, you would write in the name of someone and no on cared, they only looked at the quality of the story. It was free for all and it was beautiful.
Cellphones, rural internet, and finally third world internet have come together to utterly destroy what once was
I meant the ancient times quite literally, the new testament times.
>rural internet
Are we talking village in Guatemala or town in flyover state?
I'm talking about the random village in Africa and India.
I knew someone who also made physical copies of her own fanfictions, but she only asked people to cover for printing costs + shipping and the cover had no reference to the show's title or pictures of the actors. The "artists" who sell their fanarts/merchandise at cons or on etsy are worse, but no one seems to care.
Because those same artists dont sue the IP owner for plagiarism. Thats what happened here. If he would have said nothing nobody would care.
Yeah and he was double moronic if he thought he could stand a chance against Bezos' army of lawyer.
Thread seriously lacks cute elven girls.
>Because those same artists dont sue the IP owner for plagiarism. Thats what happened here. If he would have said nothing nobody would care.
Good proper rundown.
>Play stupid games win stupid prizes
Phrase for idiots
cry moar
>get your power base by selling books
>start forcing people to destroy their books to maintain it
The court papers were pretty funny
This was part of response from the Tolkien Estate + Amazon
>This was part of response from the Tolkien Estate + Amazon
4got pic
Jesus christ i hate modern society
alright maybe Amazon was in the right for once, not in principle but in spirit
>smut merchant vs Amazon
What the frick was that moronic coomer thinking?
That he lived in a just world
Bullshit. I've seen the webms. They absolutely tried to tease a Galadriel x Sauron ship. In fact, it was the main focus of the shill campaign here. I never watched this garbage but I hope coomer chan takes them to the cleaners.
>They absolutely tried to tease a Galadriel x Sauron ship. In fact, it was the main focus of the shill campaign here.
what the absolute frick. fan fiction is a fricking mistake
>court orders this fan fiction destroyed and never spoke of again
how bad was it?
This is extremely common with large companies. Bethesda copied a mod called Fallen Leaves and put it in as a side quest in Far Harbor (that vault murder mystery with robobrains) and never apologized or admitted to it. This LOTR fan fiction author was a fool for not understanding that America is a corporation and the justice system is entirely about how much money you have.
If you mod a game your mod is derivative work and legally belongs to the games ip holder. It's funny no one understands copyright law until it bites them in the ass. Don't like it? Rally to change the laws or better yet create your own IP instead of using other people's work.
All orders for the next month will come with free shipping
Did you know that if you do creative work while employed by a company, even on your own machine and time, your work is often owned by that company?
>even on your own machine and time, your work is often owned by that company?
No. Making shit on the side is yours.
As a software developer, that's how it is at a lot of companies. If you have side projects and the company finds out about them, they can claim ownership. That's also how it was at my university, with the school claiming anything I write is also their IP. This varies by state, country, and the specific employment contract you have. Look into Intellectual Property Policies.
I was forced into this sort of contract at my job.
And I'm just an IT drone for city government.
They don't even have a profit incentive to frick me like this. It's just standard practice now.
I just lie, man. Frick them. I will never play ball with soul-sucking bullshit like this. I have lied on resumes, in interviews, and continue to lie every day at my dev job. C-level vampires will NEVER take the last bits of the shit I used to enjoy doing in my free time.
If you spend your work day and work computer doing it then yeah. Nothing you do at home is "theirs" unless you signed some moron tier ~~*contract*~~
The people who spout that shit have never actually read those clauses. They apply to patents which are relevant to the work. No contract claiming blanket ownership of things created indepently is enforceable.
Depends on the contract. Some are worse than others.
read your contract ya dunce
don't work on it on company time
don't use company resources to make it
don't sign stupid contracts
you're golden
That quest sucked wiener though
Gradually
that homosexual deserves it for playing bethesda games
Leftists did this. Reminder Amazon and rings of power are gay, queer, and black.
This is what a real Banned Book looks like.
>this is what real banned book looks like
Oh frick off. He's free to rewrite his garbage just using his own ideas, if he has any.
Good. Fan fiction writers, cosplayers, molders, YouTube reviewers/reactors, all people who piggyback off the actual creative work of others, should be sent to the mines to bust coal. Maybe there they can learn to be original instead of copycats.
You're correct. Disney coasted for decades by piggybacking off of the Grimm Brothers. When they make original stuff like Wish, they fail.
Disney made a lot of their successful films from adapting public domain works yet they have fought tooth and nail to desperately hang onto their own ip like Mickey Mouse basically ruining copyright laws in the process.
how is this even legal? nothing should be ever be destroyed, did we forget Nosferatu?
>fan fiction
>creativity
Pick one
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So some gay straight up steals Tolkiens work, writes book using all his characters, tries to sell it, tries to sue Amazon that actually did buy the rights to use Tolkiens work, and gets rightfully fricked? Good. I hope the shithead ends up homeless.
10 amazon reward points have been deposited into your account
>buy the rights
Copyright was never supposed to be trading cards for corporations.
It was supposed to be a protection for the author.
But he's fricking dead.
>Copyright was never supposed to be trading cards for corporations.
it literally is supposed to be that
>It was supposed to be a protection for the author.
yes, his work is being protected so that it can retain value
>So some gay straight up steals Tolkiens work, writes book using all his characters, tries to sell it, tries to sue Amazon that actually did buy the rights to use Tolkiens work, and gets rightfully fricked? Good. I hope the shithead ends up homeless.
They didn't buy the rights to the LOTR franchise till perpetuity, they have a license deal for the television rights for 5 seasons.
>fanfiction author ordered to destroy his own books
>because they infringe on the copyright of a dead man who published a book in the 1950's.
LotR should be public domain.
Thats the thing, its not. The IP belongs to the Tolkien Estate and Amazon trough contract apparently.
You cant plagiarize your own ''creation'' in a way. The fanfic writer was quite stupid. He should have pulled a Wheel of Time and just made it a NOT! Tolkien fantasy instead.
That being said thats usually bad PR for the big corporation but no real LOTR fan cares about whatever slops Amazon shits out, so they can get away with it.
Copyright was supposed to protect authors.
But the israelites twisted it into an investment scheme to crush authors.
The fanfic writer is not an author, hes a thief all his own that wanted to steal and profit from an established author works whitout having to lift a finger.
Big greed is no excuse for small greed. They all deserve what they got.
>and profit
No. He wrote for love and autism. The for profit thieves are at Amazon, taking the pillars of modern white culture and turning it towards fat black women shrieking into a camera.
He commited theft, did not create nor give birth to any new meaningfull ideas and disfigured another's work for his own amusement and ego. Do not reduce that question to a simple matter of profit and muh capitalism.
But thats what all fanfic writer do and its okay. But then the small thief wanted to attack a bigger thief and he got rightfully BTFO. All we hope now is that he has learned his true place in the world.
If you want to hold amazon guitly of immorality you also have to hold that fanfic writer guitly of immorality.
The true message in this is that all of what was considered pillars of western culture are now the very weapon trough which they want to destroy it, and the only answers to that type of warfare is creating new things, not holding on to the past.
If you really want to create fanfic use IP like Conan, which are public domain. For that very reason nobody will make Conan woke because there is no centralized IP holder that can say whats canon and whats not.
But most shitters wont for that very same reason. They deserve whatever they can get.
You have to go back.
Then anon just stay here and seethe about muh white culture and woke shit while doing absolutely nothing of real worth to help at all.
Read the first few words, realized you were wrong, and stopped reading. I accept your concession.
>If you really want to create fanfic use IP like Conan, which are public domain. For that very reason nobody will make Conan woke because there is no centralized IP holder that can say whats canon and whats not.
Nope, the copyright is expired and the stories are public domain. That means I can host the stories on my blog and it's bueno. I cannot write and sell a new book about Conan the Barbarian in the Hyperborean Age, because Paradox Entertainment has trademarked the character and most of the names of places and people in those stories. Corporations are smarter than you anon.
They're going to expand this to everything eventually. J.K.Rowling should have to pay Amnesty International since she was a secretary for them while writing Harry Potter.
>Conan the Barbarian in the Hyperborean Age
Well just make your own thing then
>I cannot write and sell a new book about Conan the Barbarian in the Hyperborean Age
Oh, but you can do a great comic book as long as you don't put his name in the cover. Inside is fine.
>I cannot write and sell a new book about Conan the Barbarian in the Hyperborean Age, because Paradox Entertainment has trademarked the character
That's not what trademarks are. They probably have a trademark for the character and related material in a video game.
It's easy enough to do a trademark search and find that Conan is trademarked to an LLC with correspondent being New York israelite lawyer. The specimen filed to extend the mark is just a legacy rerelease of the Conan comic in 2018. That's what these people do, just squat on a mark and do the bare minimum to maintain it in the off chance somebody's dumb enough to try using it, then they sue the frick out of them.
You can make fanfics but for the love of God don't try selling them.
>then they sue the frick out of them
Either that or someone wants to make a movie out of it (thats were the big money is) so they keep an IP farm to get money from rights.
>wanted to steal and profit from an established author works
Tell me again who wrote Lord of the Rings.
Was it Jeff Bezos?
>He should have pulled a Wheel of Time and just made it a NOT! Tolkien fantasy instead.
I've never read Wheel of Time. Was that essentially a "totally original do not steal" copycat of Lord of the Rings?
In the big lines only. Ultimately it only has all the ingredient but mixed in his own way, the same way all mom's spagethis are different even with the same base ingredient.
Stuff absolutely should become public domain after the death of the creator. Characters and stories have always been an important part of culture and the sharing of folklore was one of those things that help people bond as a society. Corporations gatekeeping properties like this is one of the major reasons everything has become so stagnant
communists would have destroyed the books because they were not state approved propaganda
I didn't say anything about communism. Did you reply to the wrong person?
you have a commie meme pic
on the one hand its a fan fic writer getting dunked on. on the other it's an incomprehensibly large corporation steamrolling an individual standing up for himself without raising a finger. kind of a hollow victory.
Fan homosexual sued first. Don't start none, won't be none.
sorry i meant the guy tried to stand up for himself and amazon steamrolled him without raising a finger.
>standing up for himself without raising a finger
He started it and it's right there in the OP.
Completely forgot this shitty series was even a thing
Based, frick that chud. Amazon has done more in the fight against capitalism and for trans rights than he ever did.
That self-proclaimed leftists, communists even, now openly support greedy, corrupt, exploitative, ruthless corporate investors over ordinary working class people is one of the crowning ironies of Clown World.
Speaking as one of the few lefties still hanging on in this cesspool of a website, I'm the guy backing the fanfiction author over Amazon.
And you are an idiot for it.
Lefties cares only about their direct self interest and cannot think two steps ahead.
Now lets say the guy won and Fanfics writers could sell their derivative product.
What is the VERY NEXT THING that will happen. Think carefully
The very same big corporation will now have the right to sell YOUR creation without your consent as long as they market them as some sort of fanfic. They wont even have to negotiate with you for royalties.
Anybody who supports the fanfic writter in this case is a deluded moron who cannot think further thank muh capitalism bad muh big corpo bad.
>Now lets say the guy won and Fanfics writers could sell their derivative product.
That's not what this lawsuit is about, moron. It's about studios being so creatively bankrupt and derivative that they actually start to look to fricking fanfics for ideas. They spent billions acquiring the right but they're not gonna throw the guy a bone for using his ideas? That's as scummy as it gets. I'm sure it's better than the abysmal slop that the show was too.
>they actually start to look to fricking fanfics for ideas
The court said otherwise.
>In our story Galadriel has no sex
>in your stupid shitty fanfic, she has sex
Checkmate, clearly they are different stories.
>she has sex
She's a prostitute who fricks everything that moves, apparently. If Amazon really stole from this guy, then ROPE might have been a success.
Acting like you're entitled to anything after writing "fan fiction" is delusional.
Stop doing it for free.
The copyright holder gets all the rights over someone doing unauthorized fanfic. They also have legal domain to steal anything they want from said fanfic that they like. That's the way it works.
>Amazon plagiarizes your story and makes it about white colonialism and drumpf
Well they've lost money on it, so I am OK with them losing more.
>ordered by that court of law to destroy the evidence that you were plagiarized
As part of his case he did an episode by episode breakdown of the similarities between his fanfic book (which he claims Simon Tolkien read before ROP went into production) and Rings of Power
He didn't include two of the episodes for some reason and also got episode 5+6 mixed up
>NKS Hirilonde
>Numenor King's ship
Ah yes, I remember when Earendil defeated Ancalagon on the HMS Vingilot.
Fanfic writer got what he deserved.
Shills in full force lately.
Sorry I'm not defending a moron thief fan fiction writer just to make you feel better.
I love that he got dunked on. He stole Tolkiens work, then sued when his stolen work was taken back. What a moron.
>stole Tolkien's work
Tolkien has been dead since 1973. You do know Tolkien copied ideas from earlier works right? It used to be that you wrote something and a few short years later it entered the public domain and anyone could expand on it. Now 4 different companies own the rights to Tolkien's works and will do so for decades. I'd rather we remove all copyright laws than keep living in a world where authors die and even their children die and still nobody can even think about using anything from their works.
copying ideas is fine
copying whole cloth characters, names and settings is not
if he had called it "Darkness in Forest: A tale of Two Trees" with new characters no one would give a shit
You can't steal intellectual property from a dead man.
Our laws have been corrupted by the mouse.
>He stole Tolkiens work
He went in a bookstore and stole some books?
What's the real story here?
That cyberpunk dystopia is here, supranational corporations that exist outside the reach of law can rise from the hells and destroy a man's life at will.
moron steals Tolkiens work. Writes fanfiction and tries to sell it as official LoTR sequels (ILLEGAL). Amazon buys rights to Tolkiens work. Amazon makes their own fan fiction (LEGAL) and lazy diversity hires just copy the before mentioned fan fiction. moron gets big mad and sues Amazon thinking his big payday has arrived. Court dunks him into outer space by not only denying his frivolous lawsuit but ordering him to destroy all of his fan fiction in all its forms. One of the exceptionally rare times Amazon was 100% right and based. Lesson: create your own shit don't steal people's intellectual property.
>amazon
>based
moron. Arguing for the sake of amazon is just sad.
I mean, the problem is that the fan fiction writer started selling their fan fiction as official. That's a no go. Even though the Tolkien estate didn't pursue legal action doesn't mean the fan fiction writer wasn't in the wrong.
Then Amazon came into the picture and fricked the guy in the ass, as they should.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not a corporate shill, but if you play with fire, you should be prepared to sit on the burns.
>I'm not a corporate shill
It would be better that you were a shill than a disgusting worm whiteknighting corporations for free. have a nice day.
I'm not though. I'm on the IP owner's side. If I were a writer, I'd use the hell out of my rights to protect my IP.
Just because Amazon uses those same rights doesn't mean I'm a shill.
Rings of Power ripped off some shitty fanfic? That's hilarious and makes a lot of sense
where can I read this fanfiction book, which is undoubtedly better than RoPe.
>where can I read this fanfiction book, which is undoubtedly better than RoPe.
I just bought in on GoogleBooks.
If someone can tell me how to convert a purchased googlebook into a pdf/epub/etc, you can expect a catbox.moe link in this thread.
>where can I read this fanfiction book, which is undoubtedly better than RoPe.
You want me to keep going?
https://files catbox.moe/461oef.mp4
Part 2. I finished.
https://files catbox.moe/a4v33y.mp4
Is anyone using these though?
Why would you screen record a fricking book instead of just saving the text?
because GoogleBooks doesn't let you copy the text that you highlight, and even if I could find a addon or greasemonkey script that circumvents that, I would also have to construct some kind of Autohotkey script or something to manually copy the text of each individual page and paste it into Notepad or Wordpad or whatever, and that would take me alot longer than 15 minutes which is about the combined time it took me to simply screencapture every individual page while clicking with my fingers. Again, even that would have been easier if I took the time to make a script that engages with the right key once every second, but I wasn't in the mood to figure that out again. That quest alone would probably have taken me longer than 15 minutes.
Don't like it? You buy the book, and port it yourself? Exporting to PDF or EPUB only works in their proprietary format that I'm pretty sure is just a key to read them in some gay ass proprietary reader (pic related), but if you wanna try that shit, here you go aswell:
https://files catbox.moe/veypd2.zip
Here's the video of me trying to export. (the gay ass books are suggestions. Not my actual taste)
https://files catbox.moe/qns4uc.mp4
and if you click "Learn More" you get this page:
https://support.google.com/googleplay/answer/179863
Export as epub and use Calibre with DeACSM to jailbreak it. Come on, lad.
https://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=341975
>Export as epub and use Calibre with DeACSM to jailbreak it. Come on, lad.
I've given you the zip files. If it's so easy, you do it.
I'll be honest, I didn't read your post. The ACSM epub you provided throws a REQUEST_EXPIRED error.
>I'll be honest, I didn't read your post. The ACSM epub you provided throws a REQUEST_EXPIRED error.
Did I frick myself by posting them publicly and letting too many other anons download and use the file thus hitting this limit? If I tried your way or used this site:
https://www.acsmconverter.com/
before would it work?
Dunno, never heard of this website before. I usually use Calibre.
Calibre + deACSM/deDRM used to work seamlessly.
Damn didn't realize it was such a pain in the ass, sorry anon. Definitely not worth putting in the effort for shit tier fanfic smut.
I should have tried sending it to a conversion site first. 5 anons already opened it and now the conversion site doesn't want to try.
One of you frickers better export.
>a lord of the rings fan fic sequel called "the fellowship of the king"
>"creativity"
SAMANTHA GOLDSTRIKER INBOUND
what the frick kind of name is demetrious polychron
Destined for schizophrenia from birth.
The guy writes LotR fanfic and sued Amazon and the Tolkien Estate. I'm surprised it's not even goofier.
You can't speed then try to get out of a ticket by telling the judge speed limits are bullshit. Law is the law.
>You can't speed then try to get out of a ticket by telling the judge speed limits are bullshit. Law is the law.
offtopic, but some libertarian spergs have literally gotten out of shit like this by claiming to be sovereign citizens and the judge not giving enough of a frick to fight them.
those people get laughed out of court every time
t. lawyer
there are cases where it has worked. It may not work as often these days.
>the fellowship of the king
Lol this homie just straight up copied the names of two of the books and melded them together lmao
>alleging that the Tolkien estate plagiarized your work when you are literally using all of their IP in your fiction
This was always a dangerous move. Create your own original characters and settings.
At least he actually wrote his works. Even if they were based on an existing 70 year old property.
They just bought theirs. And then stole his.
I'm just saying, that was always a risky legal move. The courts are going to be more sympathetic with the owners of the original IP than the guy who spun off it.
>I should be able to sell my bootleg Mickey Mouse cartoon because... I just should ok! Who cares that I didn't create it? It's my right to steal ideas from other people!
Why are redditors that post on Cinemaphile like this?
bootleggers >>> MASSIVE POWER GAP >>> bootlickers.
Itt: https://youtu.be/C3oqOcYKPZ4?si=66YcXX_V0teYmaoM
As much as I dislike Amazon, fanfiction writers don't have license to use those ips so I'm not sure what you or that moron were expecting. He has no legal rights to any of Tolkien's work or characters.
>As much as I dislike Amazon here's why it's a good thing that they're fricking the little guy.
I believe the preface "as much as I dislike Amazon" is designed to add credibility to your statement. Am I talking to a bot or an indian with a carefully prepared list of bullet points.
What exactly do you dislike about Amazon? Come on. Tell us what a "good boy" complaint about Amazon looks like?
Just because Amazon is a soulless corporate demonic entity doesn't make theft right. It's not exactly a logic puzzle anon. Two wrongs don't make a right.
I'm counting. So far that's ONE instance of dodging my question.
I'll ask again, and probably stop, because arguing with shills is boring:
What exactly do you dislike about Amazon? Come on. Tell us what a "good boy" complaint about Amazon looks like?
amazon are soulless corporate homosexuals who have destroyed town and city stores, crushed with borderline legality any effort for their workers to unionize and just in general chew up people and spit them out
there
polychron still a gay as are all fan fic writers
pilpulling homosexuals suchas yourself belong on a cross.
I 100% agree copyright laws are bullshit. I also think drunk driving laws are bullshit. It doesn't mean I think I can get away with driving drunk and face no consequences. Eventually you get caught and you have to pay.
>I also think drunk driving laws are bullshit.
Opinion disregarded
The unemployable diabetics of Cinemaphile are going to tell us all how contract law works in-between their hourly pedo masturbation sessions, how interesting
We don't have to tell you. The court already did.
This isn't about contract law YOU FRICKING moron
>respond to my stupid baseless accusation
this is what autistic people think an argument looks like
The accusation that you're a shill was one sentence. The question of what you hate about Amazon was a different sentence. Since you can't answer, I have to assume it's against your contract to actually list a single valid complaint about Amazon.
And that is TWO (2) instances of dodging a very simple question, merged with an ad hominem.
I wonder if you get paid by the hour, or by the post.
what an amazing argument once again
if you respond to my post I'll take that as evidence that you're an Israeli pedophile
No, I'm not the guy who signs your paychecks.
Where is the link homosexuals? Now I need to read this shit. Also putting this on torrent just for the keks
>Where is the link homosexuals? Now I need to read this shit. Also putting this on torrent just for the keks
https://files catbox.moe/461oef.mp4 is the first third.
My finger is tired. Is there a better way to convert GoogleBooks to pdf/epub?
Screenshots + some OCR program, if it isn't DRM-free already.
You paid for this, anon..?
>You paid for this, anon..?
Yes. I didn't want to miss my chance.
>ai art cover
Lol knew it
Anon... that's not AI
Stop replying to yourself, ai-troony.
Fanfics are cringe, be it made by a fat moron at his home, or by pedophiles in Hollywood. But having the law order people to destroy their "art", no matter how bad it is, is peak dystopia.
Copyright law is the most israelite law ever made.
It likely would have been fine if he had not passed it off as an official LoTR sequel then had the schizoballs to sue the actual rights holder. I think he got exactly what he deserved.
Being fined and being ordered to stop selling his books is one thing. He acted like a moron, so he kinda deserves it.
Being ordered to destroy every copy is fricking insane
>Being ordered to destroy every copy is fricking insane
Now thats another thing and I agree that it goes too far.
How isnhe gonna do that? Does he have to go to every person's house that he sold to with a lighter and a court order? Just hide a copy under your mattress lol.
he was selling them
that's what a fine is for.
that's not the point, he can theoretically continue to sell copies as long as they exist. that's why he is being ordered to destroy them
>he can theoretically continue to sell copies
That's what an injunction is for.
Now hes an idiot.
He could have simply slightly altered most names to be NOT! LotR and it would have been okay.
Or even better, not fricking sue Amazon.
Yeah like the girl that wrote 50 shades of gray, which was admitted to be a name replaced twilight fic
And? He printed them, why wouldn't he be selling them?
>steals something
>tries to sell it
WHAT HOW COULD I GET IN TROUBLE I DID NOTHING WRONG?!
>Being ordered to destroy every copy is fricking insane
Considering it isn't actually his work, I think it's fair. He's not destroying his work, rather he's ordered to destroy the stolen work of another.
It is his work
He wrote it.
Then he should have changed the names.
The very fact that he used Tolkien's character is that he wanted to use the IP as a marketing tool for personal gain without the consent of the actual owner.
was he selling his fanfiction? What is the point of marketing something that anyone interested can get for free?
Yes he was. The reason the judge ordered him to destroy all copies is exactly because they were the remaining unsold units.
What platform? Amazon? Did he have a website? At cons? Or just like out of his garage?
Thats a good question. I cant say.
But the thing is that Amazon didnt really cared. HE brought them to court because he tought they plagiarized him. In court he got told that (A) He coulnt prove his case (B) Hes doesnt have the IPs owner permission to create and sell LotR stuff in the first place and (C) That he had to destroy all unsold units.
But again nobody would have cared if didnt sue JRRT este or Amazon first.
I tried looking it up. Apparently, at one point in time there were Amazon links for his book. Jesus this dude has to be the nost delusional mother fricker Ive ever seen.
Some anon ITT bought it off Google Play Books.
every time I hear about some judge doing a wacky punishment I assume they're about to run for office or something and need publicity.
Frick around and find out. If he hadn't tried to sue baselessly, they wouldn't have cared.
They made an example out of him for committing the worst crime in America. Threatening a corp.
He made an example out of himself.
The problem here is that the Fanfic writer accused another Fanfic writer of theft, which they both are but one actualy had money and paid for his theft. So the first one got BTFO in court and everybody is like ''how could this happen, this must be the work of evil capitalism''
This. Friendly reminder that intellectual "property" is not actually property and the expectation that it can be protected like property is unfounded
Reminder that The Hobbit enters public domain in 2032. Tick tock, you disgusting homosexuals
To be fair, you have to be extremely moronic if you think just writing a Lord of the Rings fanfiction means you own the rights to LotR.
>Devote years of your life to creating something.
>Court orders you to destroy it.
Yeah, that's not fricking happening.
Put a man in this situation and he will go to any lengths to defy you.
This is the sort of this that makes a man weld steel plates to a bulldozer. Although in this case he can just put it on the internet and we'll keep it alive purely out of principle.
how much a humongous dogshit-brained moron do you have to be to sue the owners of the intellectual property that you're writing fan fiction for? especially when he would in all likelihood have been fine if he had done nothing. seriously, what did he hope to achieve? his idiocy is maddening.
Reminds me of that Tolkien photo controversy. This just seems like it is going to be another Streisand effect.
i feel like therehas to be some omitting of information here, because that makes no fricking sense
Just OP riling up the easily manipulated masses for (You)'s
The author is a fricking idiot who tried suing The Tolkien Estate for plagiarizing his work, and now people are mad that his Black person-tier plan backfired lol
>The author is a fricking idiot who tried suing The Tolkien Estate for plagiarizing his work, and now people are mad that his Black person-tier plan backfired lol
SRS is not quite the same thing as corporate shilling, but it should be noted that shills are not above trying to "out-/pol/" the /misc/acks by calling their enemies Black folk/jews/etc.
Meds, now.
Yes, a Black person-tier plan because it was fricking moronic. Imagine trying to outisraelite Amazon and the Tolkien Estate. Now go cry some more about "muh shills" you dumb Black person ape. I bet you wrote those books.
Guy write fanfic and sells it without consent from the IP holder.
Then he sues the IP holder and Amazon for stealing ''his'' ideas.
Goes to court, lose and is ordered to destroy all remaining copies that were not sold.
Can't Polychron just "Find and replace" every LotR noun in his books and rerelease them?
Not the same as the Tolkien Estate
The Tolkien Society is a glorified fan community
Tempted to buy one of these before they are all destroyed.
Fan fiction writers can actually get sued by the owner of the IP. They have no leg to stand on in court. It's hilarious that Hollywood is so bankrupt that they are copying the copiers. That doesn't speak to the quality of fan fiction writers, but to the absolute lack of shame and originality of supposedly multi billion dollar companies.
Only if they're profiting from it. Anyone can write fanfiction for free and share it online for free. That doesn't mean some intern can't copy some of your ideas and pass it off to the writers who are officially hired by the owners of the rights to the property
Legally you can't even do it for free, it's just 99% of the time the ip holders don't care enough to pursue it. Copyright law is insane.
>you can't even do it for free
You can, but if you do happen to get called out by the IP owner your defense is fair use, and that's on a case-by-case basis done in court so it is a huge expensive legal ordeal for the average person, even if the court ends up siding with you.
He was selling it, unofficially. That's the illegal part. Free fanfiction is legal
this is why the 50 shades of gray chick was smart for making twilight fanfiction and changing all the names around
It's over for fujos
OI OI, YOU GOT A LOICENSE FOR THAT BOOK?
Let's not gloss over the fact that this reveals why RoP was so shit. It was literally written mostly by a moron fan fiction writer, and not even directly.
>fanfiction writer
Good. I have no sympathy for these leeches.
But Amazon aren't leeches for profiting off the work of a dead man and stealing the story of a naive fan publication?
The latest gen A trend here is to do their ebin trolling by defending various corporate purveyors of dei slop
>stealing the story of a naive fan publication
Of a smut writer? Didn't happen.
>naive
He was fricking SELLING these books.
>But Amazon aren't leeches for
They're morons, actually, and I want them to keep bleeding money on their shitty girl powah fantasy.
Meds.
>But Amazon aren't leeches for profiting off the work of a dead man
no, because they paid to use the LotR name
are you stupid or just pretending not to understand?
Oh, did they resurrect Tolkien to pay him for his work?
no, they paid the people that Tolkien left in charge of his IP
Nobody paid the author. So everyone is profiting off someone else's work. That's what it means to be a leech.
>build a house
>leave it to my children
NOOOOOOOOOO IT BELONGS TO THE COMMUNE
>equating intellectual property with physical property
every fricking time
You know that intellectual property expires right? I know it's so fricking long that it feels like it's eternal, but after 100 years or whatever the frick it is the metaphorical house belongs to everyone.
Why shouldn't I own my own creation? I know I'm talking to NEETs that create nothing but do you believe in any ownership period or can I just steal whatever idea you have right away?
Can't steal my ideas if I never write them down. Got a mind reading helmet? Checkmate.
>Got a mind reading helmet
yes
your ideas suck though
It's not physical property. Your "ownership" is actually the government forbidding anyone else to make something similar.
But you should have those protections. For as long as you live. AND NO FURTHER.
>Your rights ends where my consooomerism begins.
>But you should have those protections. For as long as you live. AND NO FURTHER.
And why is that?
Because copyright exists to protect the author. Not the lazy offspring of the author, riding on their granddaddy's legacy for 3 generations.
And because the living should have more freedom than the dead.
I think it should be 25-30 years and transferrable to children. Also transferrable to charities or corporations if you will it. I guarantee that Amazon would kill people if it knew that it could save $10,000,000 with a 50 cent bullet.
They're working on it. And you'll say you won't use it, but it'll be the only way to access the successor to the Internet and pay your Perri-air subscription or apply for jobs.
Deal, 30 years or death of the author, whichever comes later.
>bootlicks the wealthiest corporation on the planet by saying it's victim gets what they frickin' deserve.
>uses a reaction image from a film about a guy who hates wealthy Wall Street bankers.
I know you're a paid shill, and I shouldn't respond, but the irony was interesting enough to highlight.
>make something for fun based off of something else you like
>leech
???
>for fun
But it's not for fun. It's either for profit or for profit adjacent almost every time. The only fan fiction writers I respect are those that stay completely anonymous.
Write your own OCs, homosexual. Then maybe it'll be ok for you to sell books since it will be based on something you own.
>Americans will claim the rest of the planet hates free speech and pull shit like this
>blaming the American masses for the actions of the biggest corporation in the world.
He violated the One Commandment of America.
Should have known his place as a FILTHY HUMAN.
IP law started in Europe with the Paris and Berne conventions. As usual the ills of our society start in Europe and spread like a cancer over here.
100% Demetrius polyphonic is in this thread right now.
>Amazon wins legal battle against some delusional sperg
yes, I would certainly hope so
I have always told writers to not invest too much energy into fanfiction. It is a useful exercise in creative writing to use a pre-existing world as a point to build from, but ultimately it is not yours.
I never thought something like THIS would happen, though. That’s pretty fricking lame. How do you pull a retroactive like this. How is that even legal. I mean, really.
>fanfic exists before your show does
>your show has such striking similarities to the fanfic the writer took them to court
>judge rules in favor of the show and orders writer to DESTROY their work
How is such a thing possible?
Because the fanfic writer was the ONE who sued the IP owner and Amazon for plagiarism, then they found out that he was illegaly selling his fanfic.
Then the judge ordered the copies not sold to be destroyed.
He should simply have altered the names and everything would have been alright, but he sought to use the LotR IP for marketing reasons and got BTFO.
Could this be 5D chess? Use the lawsuit for marketing, then change the names and release his fanfiction with 'From the author famously sued by Amazon' on it?
Fanfiction authors should be granted a limited form of copyright protections.
Even though their content is based on someone else's work, they're still writing new original content. That should award them some protection. Even if it's not as much as we give to completely original works.
>Even though their content is based on someone else's work, they're still writing new original content.
Yes, like how Arthur Conan Doyle never wrote a story about a holographic simulation of Moriarty on a starship.
It's an original story based on an existing work.
Literally the only difference is that Sherlock Holmes went public domain before THE MOUSE fricked with our copyright law.
If it's public domain then sure. It's still derivative though, just legally derivative. I'm fine with derivative work. I think it's lazy, but whatever. Where the dam breaks is when it turns into copyright infringement. You can't just break the law because you think the law sucks.
I also think it's lazy, and I don't defend the quality of this fanfiction writer's work at all.
I just think it's particularly stupid to pearl clutch about a 70 year old property with a dead author. This shit should be public domain by now.
But then the Tolkien family would lose their cash cow. The works of JRRT have filled the bellies of 3 generations of lazy nobodies now, they're not letting go of a good man's work without a fight.
Fricking leeches.
Forget the Tolkien family, the studios that produce the films and shows make infinitely more money, and they're not even related to the guy.
I agree. I think the laws should change. But just because I think the speed limit should be 150mph doesn't mean I won't get fricked caught doing 90 in a 45.
where would society be if a shitty Star Trek sequel show couldn't rip off the work of a real artist?
Even if your writing is based on copyrighted material you absolutely should have rights against someone outright copying your prose and storyline ideas. Plagiarism is way worse imo than someone creating an story borrowing from an existing ip.
It's very hard to prove plagiarism, even harder when you are ripping off the works the person you're suing owns the rights too. In the US, if you don't defend your copyright legally, you lose it. This IDIOT was selling fanfiction that he has zero rights to. That's a direct threat to whoever owns the rights to LoTR. The fact this IDIOT sued them, thereby letting them know he has been threatening their copyright, makes him even more stupid.
Lol no. That would just incentivize companies to make their own fanfics without ever involving the author or their estate. Make fanfic writers attack each other more ov alleged copying or being inspired by the other's work. Make fanfic writers sue more authors thinking they must've read their fanfic and stole their idea. And drive fanfic to be more profit based than it already is, commissions can now be litigious, AO3 is going down.
Christopher didn't. The others just see money and know there's only a few years left until they can't control anything anyway
>That would just incentivize companies to make their own fanfics
So they'd make new content from small creators instead of just remaking the same shit over and over because they own the copyright for it?
And like I said, this copyright protection could be limited. Like maybe you owe a cut of profits to the original author or something.
>I want to throw actual creator under the bus so I can read and sells smuty fanfics from established IPs. No I'm not a consoomerist.
>actual creator
He's dead m8
So?
He bequeated his rights to his descendant.
It's not property. It's a government regulation imposed on other authors.
And the reason Governments do that is that it incentivise creativity.
Anybody who create something of note wants to have control over it and not let big corporation and lazy shitters steal their stuff.
You are not much different than Amazon anon.
But it's being used here to stifle creativity.
To crush this guy who created something and literally destroy his work.
Abloobloo. Maybe he'll think about it the next time he sues the copyright owners of an IP he's stealing from.
only artists recognize creativity
Again he should have simply changed the fricking names in the book. Many author starts as fanfic writers like Sarah J. Maas.
The reason he used LotR names is that he wanted to use the brand notoriety as a sort of marketing tool.
Before publishing he simply had to change some of the names and terminology and voila he can publish freely, but would people BUY that Fanfic without LotR branding? Perhaps, but if you want it you have to pay to use a brand.
>who created something and literally destroy his work.
This is tantamount to those shitheads who put a prompt into an AI program to create an oil painting and then they sign the picture as if they painted it.
No it's more like making an original painting in the style of Van Gogh.
>they'd make new content from small creators
Why do you assume they'd need to? They could hire writers to make up stories from any IP and it would count as limited copyright fanfic in your case. And they'd own each story those writers make unlike fanfic that's already out there
Why does Tolkien's family hate him so much?
He wrote doujinshi without their consent.
>the fellowship of the king
>The Two Trees
What's his third book called? "Return of the Ring"?
no thats the 4th
Marvels The fellowship of the two returning kings of Hobbits star wars trek spiderman hulk walking dead aliens dune transformers, an original book by dookie doodoo polydingdong.
Hmm yess, today I will attack the fans of the thing I'm trying to sell to them.
Surely Tolkien fans will appreciate a literal book-burning order imposed on a lifetime fan who didn't want his work stolen by a company who happens to own the rights to the work someone else did 100 years ago.
>his work stolen
His erotic fanfic wasn't stolen by Bezos.
>Surely Tolkien fans will appreciate
The fact some random homosexual can't sell shit using the LOTR brand, yeah, I'm sure they will. ROP is still a thing though so it's a bummer, but baby steps, y'know.
You've never been to a convention in your life, and you have no idea what you're talking about.
>people do it at cons so it's alright!
moronic nerd
Who gives a shit about the moron fanfiction author. Shouldn't more prople be concerned by the fact that a team of writers were paid millions of dollars to pass of the shitty ideas of some fanfiction author as their own shitty ideas?
fan fiction writers deserve it
same with idiots who "remake their favorite game" and then get C&D
>"remake" game
>share assets from said game publicly
These homosexuals are begging for it.
>be fanfiction writer
>sue company that holds the copyright of the world you sell stuff for
>it backfires
what did this autist think would happen?
Did the Tolkien estate forget that LOTR itself is fanfiction of the mythology that JRR Tolkien read while studying linguistics?
lol were you this shitheads lawyer? What a terrible argument.
I don't think they really care at this point and is more a way to keep their generational cash cow still milking.
Fanfiction is not creatively.
>shill
>esl
what a combo
Your seethe soothes me.
Are there any other kino examples of plagerism?
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What is this plagiarism of?
The guy who did the soundtrack of the Budokai games and DBZ Kai basically plagerized the whole thing. He had great taste in music though.
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Considering the knockoff fan fiction was romance novel smut it's 100% likely some female "writer" on rings of power read it and thought omg this is perfect.
LotR still isn't public domain due to israeli copyright laws. Jrr has been dead for 50 years and his son has been dead for 3. When LotR hits public domain there is going to be a massive flood of derivative work
>When LotR hits public domain there is going to be a massive flood of derivative work
And will all these talentless morons end up suing each other for "plagiarizing characters"?
If anyone still cares by then.
>story about white people leaving the world as the ancient israelite uses blacks and migrants to destroy earth
I have a feeling it will be relevant
>Fellowship of the King
lol imagine being on the same intellectual level as the shit that passes for "AI" these days.
>I NEED TO BE ABLE TO RIP OFF LORD OF THE RINGS AND SELL IT FOR PERSONAL PROFIT
I haven't seen a single good reason why this should be allowed
Why shouldn't it be allowed? Tolkien has been dead for 50 years.
>ALSO NOBODY ELSE SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO THE SAME REEEEEEEEEEEEEE, ITS MINE, MY PRECIOUS, I'LL SUE YOU
glad that homosexual got eternally buttfricked. If amazon had pursued him for making some fanfiction I'd sympathise, but he's the one who tried to claim some form of ownership over it in the first place, so frick him
Preston Jacobs is currently on suicide watch.
>LOTR is public domain
>Every shithead fanfic writer sues Peter Jackson and New Line Cinema for "stealing their work".
>Then they sue each other
>lawyers make even more bank
Communism is for idiots.
Are there any PDF links yet?
I'm the last person that ever wants to defend megacorps or enforce copyright, but this is one of the few times they're absolutely right and I'm glad they won.
>be idiot hack
>see successful franchise
>steal characters and storylines without permission
>publish unofficial sequel
>no one acknowledges you or cares
>actual licensed work is released
>uses similar plot points to you since you stole all your elements from the franchise
>try and sue them for copyright infringement
>seriously
>have case laughed out of court
>judge tells you to go frick yourself and destroy your shitty fanfiction
If he had won, copyright vultures would publish millions of generic fanfiction sequels to stop authors from making sequels without paying them
And that would've been a good thing.
This is some Ken Penders level of autism.
>that Black person face in the suit was not photoshopped there by some anons
My sides.