>American version
>Mewtwo is evil and he wants to wipe out humans and pokémon alike with a giant storm created with his psychic powers. He will then repopulate the earth with his army of clones. Thinks he's the only one deserving of ruling over the world because of his superior intelligence and power.
>Japanese version
>Mewtwo is just confused about life in general. All he knows about his creation is that he was designed as an improved version of Mew. He thinks he needs to prove he deserves to live by defeating Mew. He doesn't like either pokémon or humans ruling the world but he considers himself undeserving too because he's too flawed
Completely different characters...
Why?
americans are morons who see the world as black and white
fpbp
Animes like angel egg, serial experiment lain and paranoid agent are more complex, philosophical and meaningful than any am*rican film released in the last seventy years
Japs havent created an animated film as thematically rich as Coonskin tho
I watched paranoia agent. It was interesting as in unique but it didn’t hold my interest enough. It felt more like watching someone’s art project than an entertaining show. Which is entertaining in its own way, and I enjoy the artistic aspects of tv and film, but it has to be interesting aside from its artistic ‘deep’ qualities
>show.
He talking about movie
It’s a mini series no? I can’t even find a. Movie with that name
The creator of Angel's egg said it has no meaning
Its about loss of faith
I'm aware the creator lost his faith
>Prior to the production on Angel's Egg, Mamoru Oshii lost his faith in Christianity. Senses of Cinema opined that the film "seems informed by the existential desperation caused by the collapse of one's belief system Oshii himself has stated he does not know what the film is about.
so it’s reddit shit
>Animes like angel egg, serial experiment lain and paranoid agent
Fraud comparison. Those shows are like from 20 years ago.
>20 minutes of still frames, ambient powerline noise, and characters explaining what theyre doing is.... LE DEEP AND PHILOSOPHICAL XD
>animes
>
Yes, anime as we say it isn't a japanese word it's an english word based on a japanese word, we say cartoons hence we should say animes
>アニメ
>english word
who are you quoting
The moron who said anime is not a japanese word.
nobody said that
>anime as we say it isn't a japanese word it's an english word based on a japanese word
Because they have different meanings, the Japanese word anime refers to all animation, the English word anime refers only to Japanese animation (certainly there is starting to be western stuff calling itself anime (and that's a good thing because once everything is anime western animation will no longer be held to lower standards than Japanese animation) but overall when you say anime people aren't thinking about those shows), hence they are different words and the English word should conform to how we speak in English.
There is no english word anime.
Its literally just a transliteration of アニメ
Its a loan word like a ton of others.
then there is no word アニメ because アニメーション is just a transliteration of animation
what do you think katakana is?
Katakana is not always reserved for foreign words.
reddit: the comment
>angel egg and paranoid
>complex
Every pokemon anime has more depth and meaning than this these shitty shows, unironically consider suicide
They live between blacks and whites.
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most of their villains are Frieza tier evil, you moron
Americans are based and like badass villains, not homosexual monsters that act like college freshmen
Westerners have much less respect for the intelligence of children than asians
It shows, with 4Kids. Like Yu-Gi-Oh
>orginal: has death, because Japanese kids understand the concept
>4kids: All death is censored, because we let kids know everybody dies
I've always wondered but never bothered to check, is the shadow realm a thing in the japanese version?
No. People just die, but most are resurrected.
No shadow realm at all, the formula of Yugioh is:
>Play a game, loser suffers a penalty
>Most of the time this penalty is death but other times it’s psychological torture or having your legs cut off by a saw
That's because Yugioh is a shonen anime in Japan but 4kids turned it into a kodomo anime.
Death is censored in America cause all the executives remember hordes of children screaming and crying because Optimus Prime died on screen in 1986.
Did they?
they seemed happy to kill him again in the live action films, wonder what changed.
>wonder what changed
Well for one, they didn't have a long running tv show beforehand that made kids love Optimus Prime.
Second, no kids went to see live action Transformers. Only manchildren.
Which is kinda odd considering some of the action cartoons of the 90s would kill off characters with little to no fricks given
>Beast Wars
>Reboot
>Swat Kats
>pirates of dark water
It was unheard of in the 80s tho. Which is why kids were screaming and crying during Transformers.
I wanna say didnt Hanna Barbera include villains dying and presumably dying off screen in most if not all of their action shows like Space Ghost, Birdman, and Thundarr?
I don't think so.
Hanna Barbera couldn't even have swords land hits. They always had to shoot lasers from the sword.
yugioh really suffered from censorship.
>past tense
they still censor new cards to this day not much less than they did back then
although I don't think the rush duel vidya censored anything, or if it did the censorship was a lot lighter than it would be on main game cards. maybe they realized no kids were going to be playing the vidya and it was only localized for curious adults
Pedos
They used to. Pixar, Disney, Dreamworks, etc. used to make movies that both children and adults could enjoy, with jokes that kids wouldn't get but the parents definitely would
Now they just make movies that both children and adults hate.
That’s certainly different than the version I watched
I like the American version better, villains who are bitter because of injustices the world has done to them are always kino to me.
>villains who are bitter because of injustices the world has done to them
That's still true about the Japanese version, only there's a bigger element of nuance and tragedy added in. You know, depth. Remember depth?
Jap Mewtwo is still pissed off at humans for his creation, it's just not his only character trait
Wait why is he getting everyone to fight then? Or capturing and cloning Pokemon and hypnotising that nurse joy?
Clone autism.
He has no idea where Mew is so he's proving that he's better than mew by proxy, having his other clones beat the real pokémon and thus proving that clones are better.
Then Mew appears and claims that clones may have improved battle power but in a fight where neither use special techniques, the real ones can beat their copies. Mewtwo accepts the challenge which is why the pokémon never use flamethrower or hydro pump during the final battle
Honestly o hate dubs changing shit too much but Mewtwo being pissed off makes far much more sense considering how team rocket used him
That's the reason for the weird slapfights? Interesting.
Frick that shit was kino
Unfortunately I can't find the scene in English. Hispanic will just have to do for now
Proving that clones are superior.
>japs want to humanize a fricking clone in a kids movie
yeah its shit
Is this anime good?
Watch the American versions, the Jap version makes no sense. It's a lot better if you're a fan of the games/anime.
Literal moron.
the music alone makes the jap version superior.
America always puts shit music in dubs.
Japan always has better openings.
only the XY series is anywhere near good (subbed).
SM is better
all that wasted budget for ash to lose
It's okay, the backlash from that league made him win the SM league and is about to make him defeat Cynthia and win the world championship.
>It's okay, the backlash from that league made him win the SM league
Alola felt like a pity trophy
>but he fought a legendary
he fought two in sinnoh without any power-up
it made them so confused because they saw some cheerful story followed by nihilismon
>he fought two in sinnoh without any power-up
Ash and Pikachu actually met Tapu Koko several times so it felt special when Pikachu finally defeated him after being helped by Koko so much throughout the series.
If Ash had defeated Tobias it would've felt empty because Ash didn't give a shit about Darkrai or Latios
For me pokemon have always represented mankind's relationship with nature, working together to build a better world. Technology has advanced, but even so there is a strong environmentalist message. Basically i think pokemon always had a bit more going on then most kid's show's of that time.
>GRENINJA USE CUT x109
There was a video comparison for this scene in english and in japanese and it was night and day. I have no idea why the american version is so damn fricking sterile.
>I have no idea why the american version is so damn fricking sterile
Because its literally every anime released in America.
The original Kanto season + Orange Islands are pretty entertaining and funny at times. Everything beyond that requires autism to sit through unless you're watching episodes at 2x speed. It's not a bad series and it prioritizes advertising the Pokemon first but goddamn is it fricking long, and barely anything gets accomplished in a lot of episodes. I think every season has something worthwhile like DP having the Paul fights and XY having great animation, but you will feel the burn while bingeing.
paul really deserves a spinoff. The original series is a fun family show with some decent messages, humor, and action. yeah it's an ad but season one pikachu is a great character, in fact most of the pokemon mog the human characters.
Pokemon is one of the worst anime of all time but the first season was an alright kids anime.
Should have watched it when the entire pokemon anime was streaming on Twitch for it's 20th anniversary. The chat made even the most mindnumbing episodes of the anime funny
But season 1 is still just as good as it was when I watched it as a child. It had more experimental episodes because Nintendo didn't give a shit about canon or continuity yet. And had more japanese influence because they didn't care about westerners watching yet
Yes. All the way up until they changed all the voice actors. Show is absolutely trash after that switch
Pokemon never had good english voice actors.
Wow
Have you literally never watched Pokemon? Where do you live? A crater in the arctic?
I have a hard time believing anyone at an adult age could really "get into" the Pokemon anime
The anime was mostly created as a way to shill the trading cards and games, I'm not even sure if there was a manga or real source material for it
I assume most people that still watch it are just nostalgiagays that were there when Pokemania took over in the late 90s
That being said, I don't think the early anime stuff was terrible or anything, but it's very disjointed and obviously caters to small children. It has some soul and heartfelt stuff at times but generally it's pretty stupid - Still a lot of neat creature design though
The Pokemon anime was pretty charmingly dumb when I was watching it during one of the Twitch marathons, but that's also because there was a ton of people watching it. I probably couldn't watch it by myself.
Pokemon manga is kino.
*plants the seed for your future giantess fetish*
heh nothing personal
If you have any memory whatsoever of the late 90's pokemania, I think it's worth watching the Kanto arc just to experience what you missed.
I'm not saying it's overall a good show, just that it's worth checking out for nostalgia's sake.
As far as children's anime or even monster anime? You can do way better than Pokemon BUT it does have its moments. Really the biggest killer of the Pokemon anime is its incredibly shit pacing that makes the repetition more painful when you realize how slow it is which is something that the latter seasons fixed considerably. Generally consensus is that Kanto, Diamond & Pearl, X&Y and Sun & Moon are worth watching as they represent the anime at its creative peaks though to be honest Kanto and Sun & Moon are the only ones that excel at being enjoyable general audience shows due to how lively the character interactions are and how weird the episode plots got which is what a lot of people missed about the anime before Nintendo and PUSA got more influence to sterilized the frick out of it.
Also there's the recent ONAs which if nothing else has the best production values of any Pokemon related media out there, plotwise they're really simple due to the individual episode run times, worth a watch on that aspect alone and the Poketoons shorts which are Lonney Tunes inspired vignettes. The movies are an entirely different beast since the bulk of them are boring adverts to shill the current Legendary and not much else and while the first movie is nostalgia bait incarnated its pretty shit overall same with the second, third is a solid family film, the fifth is a fan-favorite alongside the eighth and tenth but after that your mileage may vary because they start blending together just avoid the Mewtwo CGI remake which is the very definition of soulless.
ngl, I was incredibly sad as a kid when the show dropped Misty
I quit Pokemon completely during the tail-end of gen2 but I think losing Misty from the anime was also a big reason why I lost interest in the series
You mentioned how charming the cast was and then May+her little brother just felt like a huge nerf.
Heard Misty came back in a recent season but idk much about how that turned out
Yeah that was a huge part of why I stopped caring for the longest time. Kanto and to a way lesser extent Johto had a tight-nipped surge of charisma among the original cast that made them memorable because the brought out the best in one another which is missing in every installment after (except for Sun and Moon), Ash was a brash jerk who was in over his head most of the time but he grew as the series went on and I like how later seasons like DP and XY actually showcase his experience is way above his Kanto days (BW is an exception) but they reset that in SM and he's back to making stupid mistakes and regressing personality wise to appeal to kids. I actually don't mind that they dropped Brock because he got majorly flanderized to the point where even his Japanese VA got sick of it. May wasn't bad and I like how her character arc was less about her relationship with Ash and more about finding her passion as a trainer but she and Ash lacked a synergy that Misty and him had and felt like they were in entirely different shows most of the time but Max was absolutely terrible and I'm glad he never came back. Misty came back in SM for a few episodes as a ratings nostalgia grab and promotion for Let's Go Pikachu (the anime only brings back old characters if there's a new remake of a previous gen) and it was pretty great but then again SM is one of the better seasons of the anime because its essentially just Ash and Pikachu fricking around on an island as oppose to traveling and its also where they animators started having fun with the visuals and expressions thanks to the simpler character designs.
I might have to check those Misty episodes out if it's only a chunk of episodes, ty for the heads up
The guy in charge of the anime at the start was actually insane and kept trying to insert pretentious nonsense that no kid cared about. He also started the movie with bullshit about Mewtwo becoming friends with a clone little girl then the girl dies and Mewtwo has his memories erased and it’s never relevant or mentioned again for the rest of the movie.
Is the samd guy who made Lugia?
Reminds me of all the butchering that was done to anime movies theatrical US releases.
>Dissatisfied with Warriors of the Wind, Miyazaki eventually adopted a strict "no-edits" clause for further foreign releases of the company's films.[23] On hearing that Miramax co-chairman Harvey Weinstein would attempt to edit Princess Mononoke to make it more marketable, Toshio Suzuki sent an authentic katana with a simple message: "No cuts"
>Harvey Weinstein would attempt to edit Princess Mononoke to make it more marketable, Toshio Suzuki sent an authentic katana with a simple message: "No cuts"
The katana supposedly has since been used on a string of current A-list actresses.
It's like that story Steve Alpert tells when he was helping Miramax with the translation of Princess Mononoke
>One woman with a pronounced Brooklyn accent asked, “So why do they call this Ashitaka guy a prince?”
>Neil Gaiman answered, “Because he is a prince.”
>“Yeah,” she said, “but, how do we know he’s a prince? He lives in this crummy dirt village. His clothes are rags. His tiny village is in the complete middle of nowhere. How can he be a prince?”
>“We know he’s a prince because everyone refers to him as Prince Ashitaka,” Gaiman said. “He’s a prince because his father was king and he will be king when his father dies. The filmmakers have told us he’s a prince. He’s a prince. He just is.”
>The discussion between Gaiman, maintaining that a prince can remain a prince despite his reduced circumstances, and the Miramax woman, who argued that audiences would not accept a prince with a village kingdom and bad clothes, continued.
>Gaiman: Look, his being a prince is important to the story. It’s part of his character. I believe it’s what Mr. Miyazaki decided. We’re supposed to be adapting this film for an American audience, not changing it.
>Miramax: But the audience won’t get it, that he’s a prince.
>Gaiman: Of course they will. The audience isn’t stupid. If they were, they wouldn’t get the rest of the film either.
And this is why the American film industry is dying.
Haven't seem Memenoke but on paper the lady does have a point - Not that "the audience won't get it" but the way it's phrased there it sounds like this prince is in a Cinderella situation..Did the old king die / get overthrown and now the prince is living in squalor, or is this kingdom so poor that they cant get non-tattered clothes or showers for their prince?
I think her point was more that he's supposed to be royalty but the film might not do a good job of convincing the audience that he's royalty. I probably should watch the movie but I saw Spirited Away like 17/18 years ago and didn't really seek out Miyazaki stuff after that
If you haven't seen the movie just shut the frick up.
It sounds like she didn't even watch the movie
She probably didn't because movie company executives are basically that stupid.
>he advocates for unnecessary changes
>strawman
I don't think randomly changing things is good, but I also think that change in particular is harmless at worst and could do good for the particularly dimwitted viewers, much like yourself.
Not him and it's been years since I swaw it but I don't recall him being a prince being remotely relevant to anything.
Like if he was just some farmer boy what changes?
In an interview, the Japanese literally mentioned the fact that the American audience are too racially diverse and thus do not have clear morals, and thus would have a hard time understanding the message of the movie in the Japanese version. Paraphrasing.
lmao. based
Based Japs
source? sounds dubious
cancer
They just made shit uo to match the mouth movements, its just a adaption of a fricking gameboy game who cares?
BROTHER MY BROTHER
The creator of pokemon cried during this scene when he watched it in american theaters.
Also the American version added in the line about mewtwo disabling the pokemon's special abilities because they thought it was weird none of them were using their powers during the fight
pikachus fighting pikachus
Because Japanese people are weirdos and dont have proper motivations or emotions in their lives
>Brother my brother tell me whatta we fighting fo isn't life worth so much mo?
>telll me whyyyyyy
That Meowth speech about finding similarities was supposed to end racism.
>Japanese version
>they use guns
>American version
>they use finger guns or water pistols
>Japanese
>We are powerless on our own. We need to understand each other and cooperate to make a difference, after all, we all share this world regardless of how different we may be. All those pokemon come to the orange islands because they want to help one way or another to protect each other's world
>American
>ASH IS THE CHOSEN ONE, HE'S THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN SAVE THE WORLD. ALL THE POKEMON FROM ALL AROUND THE WORLD CAME TO THIS PLACE JUST TO SEE THE CHOSEN ONE SAVE THE DAY
The Japanese like the chosen one trope better than anyone else on the planet.
No they don't. Americans always do the chosen one thing cause they like individualism.
Japs just try hide it better
Shounen series are the most popular and nearly all of them have chosen one syndrome MC
>Shounen series are the most popular
No they aren't.
One Piece is the most popular. Not the whole genre.
one piece been getting btfo lately
It would take some catastrophic shit to boot it from #1.
>Naruto
>Demon Slayer
>Yu-Gi-Oh
>FRICKING DRAGON BALL
You're actually a moron.
Dragonball isn't even as popular as Detective Conan.
Which is also a shonen anime you dolt.
You've never read/watched Conan if you think its a shonen.
>then there is no word アニメ
b8.
>It has been serialized in Shogakukan's shonen manga magazine Weekly Shonen Sunday since January 1994
>Not a Shonen series
Hurrrdurrrerrpdedurppp
>its in a shonen magazine so its a shonen
Meanwhile the actual series has absolutely no shonen elements.
It's a shonen series, maroon. What you're trying to say is it's not a battle shonen, which would be right.
Its not a shonen at all.
ok retart
Then why do Japanese bookstores sell it in the shonen section?
>its in a shonen magazine so its a shonen
ash=god
2000, 3, and Heroes were fricking kino.
Pokemon 2000 came out in Japan a year before America. So I bought a VHS dub on eBay 7-8 months before it ever hit theaters in the USA.
I burned that tape up.. I absolutely loved it and couldn't wait to see it in theaters.
But when I finally saw Pokemon 2000 in America I couldn't believe how fricking terrible it was.
Same movie, completely different story..
I remember reading where the director or writer or whoever sperged out hard over lugia.
Yes, here's some interesting bits about his obsession
>He created Lugia. Originally it was going to be an anime-original pokémon but Gamefreak liked it so much that they added it to the games
>He wanted the entire movie to be about Lugia, but the studio forced him to add Ash and his friends to the story. He hated having to shove Ash in stories that aren't about him.
>He didn't think much about Lugia's voice at first. He originally thought of Lugia having both a male and female voice at the same time to make it feel divine and genderless, but then the studio decided to give him a male voice and he didn't complain. Shortly before the movie's premiere he became obsessed with the idea of Lugia having a female voice, but it was too late to change it no matter how much he begged the studio. He just couldn't see his creation as anything but a woman, after all Lugia is the source of all life (in the anime, at least), she's meant to be a mother figure to all the pokémon
>Coming up with your own waifu
God damn the Japanese version sounds way better. Would have been a much more profound viewing experience for my younger self.
Lol Japanese version is "collectivism is good"
American version is "Jesus is good"
The Japanese version is always better.
Even on western movies.
>keikaku
My fricking sides
Personally my favorite bit is
>subtitling the plane sound
>plane is being shot at from the outside
>run to the back and start beating the guys who are tied up and blindfolded
>collectivism is good
have a nice day drone
enjoy your decaying society, moron
Based Americans preventing pinkos from corrupting kids with literal eco-communist great reset propaganda
my dad took brother and I on a weeklong trip to Big Bear California when this came out and I got to watch it up there while it was summer break
I could really care less about how good the movie was since I was already having a good time and walked away with a few of the promo-cards
amerifats are low iq subhumans.
they changed the fricking title of the first harry potter movie because it was too complicated
regards,
room temperature IQ trolling outside of /b/
They have to cater to the lowest IQ Yanks, namely the African American female. Truly American.
>Japanese
>Molly's mother is in the hospital
>American
>Molly's mother is dead
>Molly's mother comes back home during the credits of the movie in both versions
4kids never bothered explaining that
i assumed those ayy lmao pokemons brought her back
Molly was a fricking annoying c**t
>"my clearly fake pokemon are real!"
Frick off
>be a kid
>excited to see pokemon movie in theaters
>parents take me to see it
>they don't know about pokemon except from what i told them
>"is about creatures using superpowers to fight"
>watch this movie
>mewtwo starts giving some weird speech about what is life and such
>pokemon were close combating, not a single special power
>i feel weirded out
>saw my parents having this confused look
>the pikachu slaps happen, meowth talking about life, ash dying and pokemon tears bringing him back
>that giant reset button
>we left the theater and head home without saying anything except my dad awkwardly asking if i liked the movie
>i never knew how to respond to it so i remain quiet
how did they feel about pikachu's vacation?
That chinpokomon episide of south park was probably how your parents saw pokemon
>Japanese version
>Latias kissed Ash
>American version
>They edit the scene to show "Bianca" leaving her beret in her room (the main difference between Bianca and Latias transformed into Bianca is that Latias doesn't wear a beret) to make kids believe that Bianca kissed Ash and she just forgot to wear her beret in that scene (nevermind the rest of the movie where it was shown that Latias had feelings for Ash while Bianca barely interacted with him)
what, ash fricks a pokemon?
>latinas kissed ash
lmao, what are you smoking dude
holy shit, you just blew my mind. i never knew this and i loved this movie as a kid. frick american culture
One day you may
>that 1 kid at school who had like 5 of these (but said he only had 1) and was going around to all the TCG collectors and trying to trade it for high-end cards
A lot of those legit ended up in trash cans from parents that bought the tickets and didn't give a shit
literally the exact same things and you're just weaving semantics, gay thread, you're gay
Not the same at all. Mewtwo's giant world ending storm in the japanese version is just a small storm to test the trainers who dare come to his island. The dub turned it into a major plot device and part of Mewtwo's master plan
making mewtwo a powerful unrestrained force of nature was certainly more interesting
No it isn't.
looks like we have a difference of opinion, uh oh
it's still a trial to get there to the island because of it, stop being silly
Back then dialogue was often heavily altered to match lipflaps during the dubbing process
There's also a chance that the subbed version you were reading had inaccuracies
You ever watch fansubs then watch the *official* sub?, nearly every sentence spoke is structured differently with changed words that have somewhat similar meanings
mewtwo being so badass he can create planetary storm was part of why i liked him so much
he is literally the coolest and most badass pokemon in this franchise because of how impressive his powers and personality were conveyed.
Like Arceus in comparison suppose to be more powerful but to me he is just bland non-gender piece of talking horse. Lame as frick.
Because the japanese one was fricking moronic
mewtwo is a homosexual
back in 1998 anime was only watched in the west by children. In Japan, the market was much wider, and the scene was just coming out of 3deep5you stuff like Evangelion
>the market was much wider
Not for Pokemon it wasn't.
Pokemon was a thing in Japan for years before making its way to the west. It had much longer time to cultivate a fanbse.
I'm not saying it didn't have a fanbase. I'm saying it didn't have a fanbase beyond little kids.
And weirdos I guess. Just like the west.
maybe for the newest releases, but oldschool pokemon is pretty mainstream.
Again never said it wasn't mainstream.
All I'm saying is no one watched or liked pokemon in Japan over the age of 10.
So did it blow up there after it grew in the West then? Because it definitely was bigger than just 10 year olds in Japan at some point.
>Because it definitely was bigger than just 10 year olds in Japan at some point
Nope.
Based reality denying white supremacist
>white supremacist
And don't you forget it weeb.
Stop denying reality
Once you stop being ignorant of it.
Was this made by 10 year old?
What about "10 year olds... and weirdos" do you not get?
I'm talking as in the Anime industry. Since there it was not exclusive to children.
Pokemon has always been exclusively a young child's show. In Japan.
I'm pretty sure that's the way it is in the world. Though they market the pokemon go phone app to people of every age
Man I remember watching this in theaters with the theatre being packed and still having a cheap arcade section where you could easily retrieve the odd token here and there from underneath machines or around the coin dispenser. Being raised poor really had its drawbacks in terms of asking to play vidya in the arcade after a rare visit to the movies yet I still remember popcorn and drinks being affordable or sneaking snacks in under my pants or in my socks.
What kind of fricking snacks were you sneaking in your socks?
Candy bars and gummy worms mostly.
The american version is literal antifascist propaganda. It's everywhere
>>Cinemaphile
it's the same movie but the dialogue is so different that the story is almost 100% different in the dub
Perhaps the studio thought that 5-6 year old children were too young for some existential meaning of life stuff. I think they did a fine job. Mewtwo still gets his good guy moment.
The digimon movie on the other hand was absolutely massacred.
Unless the Japanese version lacks that stupid scene where all the Pokémon cry and revive Ash I don't need your semantics about how the Japanese version is better
iirc it actually includes a whole opening of scenes cut from the American version that establishes that tears thing so it doesn't come out of left field as an asspull later on
That scene wasn't really "cut" from the american version because it didn't exist in the japanese theatrical version either, it was added much later to the TV version in Japan (although the story of Ai/Amber existed as a radio drama before the movie's premiere in Japan)
I had a rough childhood and this is the only movie I watched in the cinema with my mother. One of the few happy memories I had of those distant days. You ruined my night
Hope your current memories are collectively happier
I watched the American version and got both interpretations from it tbh. If you watch the movie a few times you can clearly see what the Japs are going for.
Anime is not fricking high Art you complete homosexuals.
>Americans' taste in movies
why would you care about some 12-year-old taste?
That's clearly a marketing account for Disney.
There's no taste involved.
A marketing account for Disney mentions Kung Fu Panda, Star Trek, and Gundam?
To make it look real.
I think you severely underrate what morons will do for free if they enjoy doing it.
In fact, someone with such a shit taste in movies is exactly the kind of troglodyte who does it for free.
You forget that 90% of twitter is bots. And that is probably a bot.
Do you dare enter his magical realm on Facebook?
/groups/505221553446728/search/?q=sage%20tan
>top 10
>lists 20
What did he mean by this?
I count 26
But the story makes no sense in the Japanese version then. Why did he invite everyone on his island through a storm and test them in battle, clone their pokemon and start a war if his main goal was to just defeat Mew?
Who saw this /opening weekend/ as a lad? I was a socially awkward 11 year old with no friends and my mom took me on a weekday night so nobody would make fun of me for seeing pokemon.
how do you have no friends at the age of eleven?
no doubt this sequence makes autistic manchildren who hate America seethe
That joke went over every single kid's head. I wonder what the original Japanese dialogue was.
unless they kids lived in Minnesota, basically it was like Finland mentioned
Mew Two was still malicious but saw his actions as a necessary evil.
>If humans had my power, they would control anything without a second thought
His opening was completely ruined in the American version though. After he destroys the laboratory, while standing in the flaming wreckage, he sees the surviving stone tablet of Mew.
>Is this my power? I'm the strongest Pokemon in the world?
>Mew... Am I stronger than you?
But since you can't have ambiguity or moral grey areas in mainstream American movies we got this garbage:
>Behold my powers! I am the strongest Pokemon in the world!
>Stronger even than Mew.
Every time this song came on, I knew I was experiencing kino.
american one tries to form a coherent plot, stakes and character motivations out of incoherent garbage. anyone saying the japanese version is “morally grey” or in any way intelligent are the biggest morons on the planet. it’s just badly written. no thrust for the plot or motive for the villain, no impending disaster the heroes have to prevent. just rambling trite probably written over the course of two days
I haven't seen the jp version (and only vaguely remember english version, having watched it over 20 years ago) but "incoherent garbage" is a reoccurring thing for most successful anime series that get movies
There's a few entry level lines of philosophical or edgy dialogue and then autists tunnel vision those bits and make it seem like it's "ssssooooo much better" just because the epic and deep character says something akin to "humans...are so very interesting..."
I remember the 1st Pokemon movie being very enjoyable as a kid
This is dumb why would people be afraid of our concept of ghosts when they know Ghost pokemon exist? Wouldn't you rightfully assume the house is haunted by Ghost pokemon?
because ghost pokemon can get up to some fricked-up shit. Plus Ghosts are a thing in the pokemon universe, not just ghost types pokemon.
Not gonna lie been looking at mewtwo smutt for 2 hours now
>Why?
American's wouldn't be able to grasp the Japanese version.
English version was still kino
>I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are.
>We do have a lot in common. The same Earth, the same air, the same sky. Maybe if we started looking at what's the same instead of what's different... well, who knows.
>Brother my brother
Remember the time they made a zombie apocalypse film?
I like how violent Ash was towards the kid who didn't like Pokemon
Is there a doujin where he's just being tsundere and they frick at the end
>“The people at Warner also gave us some hassle over the script,” Masakazu wrote. “According to them, the Japanese original does not distinguish clearly enough between the good guys and the bad. Such a movie would not be successful in a multiethnic country like the United States, they insisted, because the viewers would not know who to identify with and who to cheer on. In other words, the heroes and villains needed to be identified clearly.”
It's true, just not for the reasons stated. Americans are just fricking idiots. Simpletons incapable of nuance. Just look at their political parties.
t. commie trannies
Is that still talking about Mononoke-hime?
americans truly deserve their israeli masters
kino opening https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MSrPb2ARXw
FAVORITE POKEMON ???
Weezing
1 - Charizard or Nidoking
2 - Houndoom
3 - Aggron
4 - Gallade or Gliscor
5 - Galvantula, hated almost every other Pokemon in the gen, honestly
6 - only played this because of Tyrantrum, arguably my overall favorite
The rest - who gives a frick.
>t. genwunner
>pokeymang
scyther
>legendary
rayquaza or deoxys
Nidoking
Are you me? Houndoom & Aggron are on my dream team.
Gyarados
Wobbuffett
wow if only there was a board to discuss anime
Or a board solely created to discuss Pokemon.
>stern basedjak: pokemon (american)
>excited basedjak: pokemon (japan)
People demand easily understandable evil to reassure themselves of their own goodness.
>American Version - Actual biomechanical monster villain with rudimentary motivations about natural or engineered superiority and BRUTHA MAH BRUTHA WHAT WE FIGHTIN FO WE GOTS TA END DIS WAR kino
>Japanese version - Ah bloo bloo bloo what am I I'm confused are pokemon or people better idk here's a generic shounen battle tournament for whatever reason because we literally have no original ideas
Nips are fricking narrative hacks
Mewtwo and Mew both have the Engineered vs Natural motivation in the Japanese, Mew wants to destroy the clones so it has the same climax as the US version but Mew is also antagonistic.
at least US version of first three pokemon movies are way better than japanese 8bit shit
For me it's mommy
c___ f___
kino
Japanese are into post-modernism, pure nihilism.
I recently played Red/Blue and decided to jerk off to pictures of pokemon I just caught. I was surprised because good pictures weren't that common. I expected lots of bestiality with females being fricked or molested by pokemon, but I think most of it is either pokemon fricking or males fricking female pokemon and I can't really fap to this degenerate shit.
Outside of few favorite pokemon there's very little pictures of other ones. Including the gen 1 ones.
>starter: charmander
lots of pictures, but plenty of gay furry kind.
First pokemon you can catch:
>spearow
Barely anything good.
>rattata
Mostly female rattata being fricked by human males or other pokemon
>nidorin/nidorina
Similar to rattata
It was quite a disappointing experience and I dropped this quest early on.
I think the American dub of Ponyo do something similar with her dad?
American mindset vs Japanese mindset
Cool. I like Jessie and Delia Ketchum.
i wanna see ALL of the Pokemon movies one day
can any of you experts tell me if there are as drastic differences in any of the other ones?
or maybe even anime in general i guess, or maybe even any animated movie ever translated.
i'm kind of shocked at this
Generally speaking Nip shit gets fixed for American audiences. This can be as simple as changing rice gruel into burgers or as complex as eliminating commie propaganda. The important part to remember is that unless you natively speak the language it was written in you're almost certainly better off watching the localized version. Sub or dub is personal preference.
You deserve death.
Localizers might as well be israeli.
You are taking the word of one person's translation over another's with no justification. If you don't speak the original language natively, you unironically can't have an informed opinion on a translation.
You don't have to speak natively to know if a translation is fricked up or not.
I speak barely anything and I still notice when translations are wrong.
They literally say he's a prince. Why would you change that just because he doesn't look like a prince? You are absolutely fricking moronic.
I think a lot of them are, like Funi
I watched Panty&Stocking in both Japanese and English and in the english one they made fun of foreskin a few times but there was none of that in jp
Its always israelites.
Look at the unholy abomination that is Power Rangers.
Original series made by Japs. Wholesome. Beloved by the entire nation since the 70s.
israelite gets ahold of it and turns it into saved by the bell shit that is really popular for a few years then died off.
>japan
>commie propaganda
They literally have elected communists in office RIGHT NOW. And not meme communist labels, but self-avowed members of the Japanese Communist Party. Japan has one of the largrest communist populations in the world for a country not controlled by a communist party.
So the Western version gave the villain motivation? Nice
This is pokemon, not exactly high art.
The original is lé good because lé vague motivation and Americans are lé bad
>america bad
>me smart for watching childrens cartoons
Great thread gay
which pokemon movie is the one where pikachu talks
Trying to portray Mewtwo as some helpless & confused creature who doesn't know any better and we should sympathize with is fricking moronic, especially when gets the Pokémon to start killing each other.
>especially when gets the Pokémon to start killing each other.
In Japan the battle was Mew's idea. The dub changed it to make Mewtwo start the battle