Read these books years ago and it's pure schlock with 0 nuance. The most entertaining aspect of the show is somehow every single change they made to the source material has made the story even worse. When you consider it, it's actually very impressive in a way.
>blackwash half of the cast >"it's was simplified plot"
suuuure
Remember when the showrunner was bragging that she won't dumb down the plot for wider audience?
turns out you don't even need some paid factcheck, people are so dumb they don't remember or worse, willingly selfgaslit at the slightest chance of cognitive dissonance
Read these books years ago and it's pure schlock with 0 nuance. The most entertaining aspect of the show is somehow every single change they made to the source material has made the story even worse. When you consider it, it's actually very impressive in a way.
it's mainly because the first few Witcher novellas which ended up as the collection called The Last Wish were just European fairly tales for kids, rewritten by Sapkowski and adding Geralt to the story
>were just European fairly tales for kids, rewritten by Sapkowski and adding Geralt to the story
Will you idiots stop with this moronic meme? Only few of those short stories go into this territory and it's usually just some briefly mentioned trope or total, cynical deconstruction of some old tale.
>blackwash half of the cast >"it's was simplified plot"
suuuure
You know she goes to her trailer after a long day with Henry and just rubs one out.
To be fair, it feels like most people who like Game of Thrones only really jumped on the bandwagon during season 4. (When it started getting dumber)
Im on season 3 episode 2 and saw this thing he fights on for like 3 minutes, i instantly thought of Elden Ring, there's multiple bosses who move and fight exactly like this.
I gotta ask, is this a thing from the books or does it show up in the games? I know the producers aren't fans of either, so i was wondering if the producers actually ripped off Elden Ring.
>Im on season 3 episode 2
Why are you watching this shit?
Spoiler: Yennifer is the hero and everyone has a big party to celebrate what a hero she is while Geralt is lucky to exist in her presence.
>Why are you watch this shit?
My father is a fan of any fantasy story as crappily told as it is, he wanted to watch this >Spoiler
Do you think i wouldn't know that? When the hunchback moron showed up on screen, i exactly knew that her hideous ass was going to save the day.
He is 50+ no time to be angry at pointless shit, give him a break.
I’m honestly not even sure what book they’re trying to adapt at this point.
But do you know if anything similar shows up on any book? I haven't played the games nor read the books.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>He is 50+ no time to be angry at pointless shit, give him a break.
BULL
SHIT
You can just talk to me, nobody else is interested in this nonsense, and frankly you're VERY lucky I'm giving you the time of day.
The audience you wanted does not exist,
So what will you do next time? A failure is only a failure if you fail to learn. The time has come for a proper post-mortem. So put a trip on and lets get down to business.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Okay then I'll talk to you, how's your day going?
9 months ago
Anonymous
Great, I just watched episode 11 of Oshi No Ko which you should really watch because it deals with the issue of shilling properly. I'm a bit frustrated that it's the last episode for now, but I'm not going to complain too loudly because I don't want them to rush season 2.
Because we're aware you're watching us watch you. Seriously, big brain anime, definitely for anyone working in entertainment (or shitposting about it on the internet)
9 months ago
Anonymous
>anime >Big Brain
I guess you have a sense of humor.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah I didn't stutter.
Your audience capable of "understanding complex story telling" pretty much exclusively watches anime now, mostly because of the complex story telling.
Just watch episode 1 and then come back here and appologize. It's in english.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Not really into cartoons but good on you.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Did I ask?
No I'm FRICKING TELLING YOU to go watch it because it will help you understand what you're doing wrong.
Fricking Hollywood morons I swear. WE ARE SMARTER THAN YOU.
We have degrees in engineering and economics. You have degrees in "communications" and "literature".
9 months ago
Anonymous
You went to college? damn that's impressive
9 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah, most anons are either currently enrolled or graduates.
These "racist internet trolls" have the type of degree that they don't just give to anyone. Your analytics should know at least that much.
So perhaps instead of poopooing the "cartoon" while you waste time watching Insider Job and Family Guy, maybe, just maybe, be fricking grateful for the fact I'm giving you my time an attention to help you learn a valuable lesson.
Like for example, Oshi No Ko will help you be better at your job and give you an insight into the type of storytelling your audience is thirsty for, since in addition to being very informative for people in your industry, it was very popular amongst the people who didn't bother to watch season 3 of your terrible show.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I'm surprised you know that many words.
9 months ago
Anonymous
That's because you're an idiot.
Not joking, you're not as smart as the people you're pretending to be. This isn't banter. This me telling you that the first mistake you are making is HUBRIS.
You idiot.
This is provable fact.
9 months ago
Anonymous
What is a HUBRIS?
9 months ago
Anonymous
https://lmgtfy.app/?q=hubris
9 months ago
Anonymous
9 months ago
Anonymous
Right so you're going to wait until you need to bump the thread to "troll me"
Literally just wasting my time.
If you frickwits were any thicker I'd recommend using your skulls as tank armour, since apparently they're impenetrable.
In the meantime, enjoy your place at the bottom of the flaming shitpile that is hollywood. Because as we can both now CLEARLY see, nobody except me is interested in this thread. And I didn't watch season 3. You've achieved nothing except putting your transparent on display for all to see.
>Oh but I'm too good for cartoons and I'll keep telling myself that makes me better than you.
Whatever you need to tell yourself you future homeless drug addict. It's your career dumbarse.
Oh and that link is "let me google that for you." If you were any smarter you'd be just regular dumb.
Thridden.
9 months ago
Anonymous
It's a copypasta
9 months ago
Anonymous
I know, i wrote it 😉
9 months ago
Anonymous
9 months ago
Anonymous
she bears an uncanny resemblance to the cave troll from The Fellowship of the Ring
9 months ago
Anonymous
I don't know what kind of person would sit through a whining, hr cat lady for 2 minutes except for ragefuel. As if these c**ts contribute anything useful to the company they work for, while going on a powertrip as if they are something special.
9 months ago
Anonymous
She actually got fired for that video ironically
9 months ago
Anonymous
Average white creatura.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>anime >Big Brain
I guess you have a sense of humor.
They would at least be fun if it wasn’t for his boomer-style leftard feminism infecting every single thing to do with female characters. I can’t believe no-one else ever talks about it.
When I read a book I mentally replace all the blacks with white people just so I don’t have to think about them, usually throws the story off though when a white guy starts committing crime or speaking all dumb and shit
Californians ruined The Witcher.
>pic
I kinda knew Wikipedia has been already compromised, but I can't remember any other alternatives, other than that something-galactica site, or something. What's the point of things like democracy or freedom of speech, when someone has easily convinced everyone to go with just one option?
I know he's a shit producer trying to deny his own ineptitude, but he isn't wrong about Western audiences. Star Wars and Jaws are what lead to simple/shallow action blockbusters like the MCU dominating movies, and both are Western products.
Didn't he hate the games, but those games with their flaws were more faithful to the source material lel.
He hated the games but not because they were unfaithful to the source material or anything, in fact they have more depth in many situations but that's bound to happen being 3 games with countless hours of dialogues and thought behind them them. No, he hated them because he made a very bad deal, he sold the rights for almost nothing because he expected the games to flop, for literaly scraps to the point CD Projekt tried to make him change his mind and accept a % instead. He hates them because they were super successful and he got almost nothing from them, he even sued but again got nothing because he chose to make a bad deal
Kinda, that's why when Netflix gave him so much money (comparatively) he just bent the knee and suddenly all his "this is essentially a slavic tale, you can't tell these stories without the slavicness, the culture, the ethnicities..." became "slavs? where? here? no, this is super multicultural, insert blacks here now!"
>he even sued but again got nothing because he chose to make a bad deal
He might've got something. They had an agreement, but wasn't publicly revealed.
Doesn't really matter now. He was collecting money for his son's medical treatment. And his son died before the case was over. Now he's a lonely, grumpy old man with nothing much to live for (except drinking, which isn't a secret) and still more money he needs.
>he even sued but again got nothing because he chose to make a bad deal
I thought there was some law in Poland which states if your revenue would be 5000% of what you got back then they have to pay you further money. Or some shit like that, didnt CDPR eventually paid him money because they knew he would win in court?
>Polish frick Sapkowski still asshurt after 15 years video games popularized his overall meh books outside Eastern Yurop >Russian good neighbor Dmitry Glukhovsky always brings up without THQ adapting Metro into a video game his books would've never gotten popular outside Russia, and is on friendly terms with the devs to this day
>Russian good neighbor Dmitry Glukhovsky always brings up without THQ adapting Metro into a video game his books would've never gotten popular outside Russia, and is on friendly terms with the devs to this day
TBF it helps that he's not a braindead bloodthirsty Zigger that wants all of them dead.
Glukhovsky got his break on the internet and he wrote metro for free as a content creator before that title even existed. Witcher Guy was like 97 year olds when the first witcher game was in development so in his old man mind it was impossible for a dumb kids game to ever match the legitimacy for storytelling for his franchise. He thought he’d be ripping some nerds off and didn’t care. Glukhovsky by comparison was young and very much into changing trends of the time.
good neighbor Dmitry Glukhovsky always brings up without THQ adapting Metro into a video game his books would've never gotten popular outside Russia, and is on friendly terms with the devs to this day
this
the israelitekosky only made 9300 directly from the games but indirectly probably at very least at least a million or more through increases book sales
>CD Projekt later approached Sapkowski for rights for the series. They were able to secure the rights for about 35,000 zloty (approximately US$9,500) from Sapkowski, who wanted all the payment upfront, rather than through royalties, even though these were offered to him. >In a 2017 interview, Sapkowski said that at the time he had no interest in video games, and was only looking at the deal from a financial benefit standpoint.
>In October 2018, he filed a lawsuit against CD Projekt demanding 60 million zloty ($16.1 million) in royalty payments from the company for using the Witcher universe in their computer games. The lawsuit was launched despite the fact that Sapkowski had sold the video game rights to the Witcher for a single sum, rather than through a royalties contract.
>CD Projekt released a statement claiming that the author's demands are groundless and that the company had legitimately and legally acquired copyright to Sapkowski's works.
>On 20 December 2019, the writer and the company resolved the lawsuit with an amicable settlement. The company stated this deal was made in an effort "to maintain good relations with authors of works which have inspired CD Projekt Red's own creations." The details of this arrangement were not made public.
by the way the actual flat amount he sold the witcher rights to cd project for was $9300
and then later when the games blew up sued them for 2% of profit or so, which he calculated was 16million dollars, that was how much he wanted and eventually he settled with cd project outside of court of undisclosed amount but cd project only did it to be nice since he had 0 legal right for anything more than the 9300
>cd project only did it to be nice
This is wrong. There are laws in Poland that allow the IP owner to legally demand for more money if it is shown that they sold their property for far less than it is worth. This law exists so that IP owners don't get fricked over selling something for peanuts.
I'm not here to debate whether this is a good law or not, but CDPR absolutely did not pay this fricker out out of the goodness of their heart.
9 months ago
Anonymous
You know as a public ally traded company you’d think they have a right to the shareholders to not tank their company with diversity hires. Can’t they be sued for that?
9 months ago
Anonymous
thats just poland, cd projekt is american company, if they refuse it's not like pole court can do shit about it
if i was cd projekt i would not pay that c**t a single fricking penny for the way he acted
9 months ago
Anonymous
Makes no sense, CDPR offered him % of the royalties and he declined, at what point does that law lose any validity? If a studio keeps offering you good deals and you say no I don't wanna I don't see you having any ground to sue them
I get the feeling that Sapkowski never really wanted to write the Witcher novels and that he was kinda forced to because of the popularity of the short stories. His Hussite trilogy is what he really wanted to write about.
Then you know nothing about. He went into the Witcher quintology with passion, and spent a shitload of effort to make sure the various timelines of events would fit the many story threads, that there would be no plot holes etc.
However, it took so much out of him that by the fifth book he was completely exhausted with the characters, and also irritated by some in the fandom trying to force their various theories onto him (you could easily talk to the man in conventions), and so decided to make an ending that would be impossible to sequelize - kill almost every main character.
>and so decided to make an ending that would be impossible to sequelize
this 2023 do you have any idea how things are done today? you can have unlimited amount of prequels and spin offs happening during the same timelines as previous books
also he i c**t for being tired by fans pushing theories on him, so what? if someone loved a book a wrote so much they would obsess over it and write fan fiction and shit i would make me happy people like m writing so much
When I read a book I mentally replace all the blacks with white people just so I don’t have to think about them, usually throws the story off though when a white guy starts committing crime or speaking all dumb and shit
Americans didn't ruin it. A small handful of self-aborbed writers and producers ruined it. They didn't "simplify the plot." Their writers are just morons, and don't know what to do beyond race-flipping shit.
>Goldstein we made everyone gay and brown and people still didn’t like it?! >I know Shekelberg, blame the people we were patronizing instead of yourself!
People like this sincerely should be shot in the face and dumped in a hole somewhere, no one would miss them or really care and there’d be 0 detriment to the human race.
A consumer cannot be moronic not liking your dogshit, they’re allowed to dislike it even for nebulous reasons and let it fail. You as the creator are the only potential moron in the room.
You misunderstand, the people are moronic because they (a at least claim to) like this shit, you’ve probably heard how bad she hulk was but according to israelitegle it’s an amazing show lel. Normies eat that live action remake bullshit up so yeah they are to blame.
Hop off my dick homosexual nobody cares about your schizo bullshit I’m only bumping to piss you off now.
Average white creatura.
The average Canadian woman
9 months ago
Anonymous
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You get a bump. I get a bump.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>He literally keeps on bumping the thread he claims to hate
Is this OP doing some reverse psychology or something? If so well done. I’m not hanging out in your lonely club house homosexual, rsvp declined, no pc4pc
9 months ago
Anonymous
>CD Projekt later approached Sapkowski for rights for the series. They were able to secure the rights for about 35,000 zloty (approximately US$9,500) from Sapkowski, who wanted all the payment upfront, rather than through royalties, even though these were offered to him. >In a 2017 interview, Sapkowski said that at the time he had no interest in video games, and was only looking at the deal from a financial benefit standpoint.
>In October 2018, he filed a lawsuit against CD Projekt demanding 60 million zloty ($16.1 million) in royalty payments from the company for using the Witcher universe in their computer games. The lawsuit was launched despite the fact that Sapkowski had sold the video game rights to the Witcher for a single sum, rather than through a royalties contract.
>CD Projekt released a statement claiming that the author's demands are groundless and that the company had legitimately and legally acquired copyright to Sapkowski's works.
>On 20 December 2019, the writer and the company resolved the lawsuit with an amicable settlement. The company stated this deal was made in an effort "to maintain good relations with authors of works which have inspired CD Projekt Red's own creations." The details of this arrangement were not made public.
What a israelite.
>we had to make our woke show more hamfisted because people are too dumb for our masterful writing
Maybe instead of making a shitty fem drama filled with ugly subhumans you follow what made the IP so successful in the first place and make it a show about a hot metahuman killing shit and piping down hot b***hes.
These talentless prostitute writers thought they were way smarter than they actually are.
That would imply these writers and producers could have made something complex enough for anyone not to get, let alone an audience already into the books and games, and if you believe that is even in the slightest bit possible you're probably the dumbest person in the entire conversation. It is 110% fantasy so they can cope since like the other anon said, these types can never admit to mistakes. It wasn't their entire production philosophy, the priorities of the writers, their understanding of the material or their lack of desire to make something for fans of it, it was our fault for being too dumb for the complex masterpiece they wanted to make and had the ability or talent to do had they not been held back. Right. I'm sure that's what it was, who wouldn't have faith in these showrunners.
>it was our fault for being too dumb for the complex masterpiece they wanted to make and had the ability or talent to do had they not been held back.
NTA but this is the part I think you're getting wrong.
We're more than capable of understanding complex storytelling, but not at all happy with Black folk in fantasy. The people who are supposedly perfectly happy with Black folk in fantasy, aren't smart enough to enjoy fantasy Black folk or not.
So really he's blaming the wokies on twitter for being too dumb to watch fantasy.
Imagine a scenario where the restaurant blames you for being served with a bad meal, or if the producer of an item blames you because you were sold a defective piece of shit that broke.
It's crazy to me that not once do these producers/writers/showrunners admit that they made mistakes
It must be some sort of Stockholm Syndrome where they spend so much time with the material that they lose all perspective
I lead projects and work, and I'll always say "Yeah, it could have gone better" even when the project turned out well. But you never hear that from creative types
In the Witcher worl everyone is bad, which Americans can't understand. they need a cowboy to save people from evil racists. (Literal example: Red Dead Redemption)
nta but I've seen more than enough examples of Americans struggling to understand the fact that there doesn't have to be "the bad guy" in every conflict. And when there is one (or at least someone close to that description), it don't have to be le ebil nazis.
Which stuck out since the sequel is still a very morally gray game. Ditto GTAV with Trevor being a homicidal maniac but decrying racism. Still a great game tho.
Which stuck out since the sequel is still a very morally gray game. Ditto GTAV with Trevor being a homicidal maniac but decrying racism. Still a great game tho.
Should ad that character-wise and background-wise, Arthur has every reason to not be racist, even by the standards of our time, while there's no reason for Trevor to see racism as any worse than any other awful thing.
GTA V's characters sucked. Trevor is criticizing things like racism and loyalty while he is a homicidal moron meant for edgy teenagers. Franklin who is an uneducated poorgay surrounded by morons his entire life is somehow the smartest person with the most common sense. Michael could be a good character but later on it all boils down to "im depressed and i hate myself waaaa"
Sapkowski is generally hated by his own fans as a person. I unironically never heard anyone say he is a nice guy in person, everyone says he acts like a complete c**t on fan conventions
They actually do. Check any of the transnational shows made by HBO Europe like Chernobyl, Swamp, or Golden Life. Or any British series like Shetland. All of them mog the shit Americans produce
First she says she wont change the story.
Changes it, but its for the better you will see.
People don't like, you dont understand she says.
Now, she blames everyone else for failure. >Conclusion: Women
was she the one who said Cavill was akthsually fired because its hard to work with him after he quit because they butchered the source material he is actually a fan of
did anyone actually back that up? because i never heard or read Cavill actually assaulting somebody. not even wikipedia has anything on it and wikipedia these days is run by twitter israelites who write down every gossip and rumor into famous people's bio
It was a "journalist" everybody quoted and reposted in tons of news and when confronted she just went "or so I've been told, the person doesn't want to make it public for fear of losing her job...yadda yadda". Basically they tried to make a narrative to discredit him, luckly didn't work, but makes you think, what happens when it does actually work?
>but makes you think, what happens when it does actually work?
didnt the accusations against Jonah Hill turned out to be an ex saying he was jealous and a douchebag, and one literal who saying he tried to kiss her in a house party when he was like 23 and she was 16
>but makes you think, what happens when it does actually work?
didnt the accusations against Jonah Hill turned out to be an ex saying he was jealous and a douchebag, and one literal who saying he tried to kiss her in a house party when he was like 23 and she was 16
Don’t forget Anzis Ansaris accuser who accused him of going on a date with her kek. I think that was the one that took the steam out of the me too story as well
9 months ago
Anonymous
Californians ruined The Witcher.
>pic
I kinda knew Wikipedia has been already compromised, but I can't remember any other alternatives, other than that something-galactica site, or something. What's the point of things like democracy or freedom of speech, when someone has easily convinced everyone to go with just one option?
Do people actually know the meaning of incel these days? I swear it became a buzzword for libgays, like how troony became a buzzword for Cinemaphileners
Huh?? Didn't they say Cavill got axed because he wouldn't shut up about wanting to be more accurate and represent the source material accurately? Now it's the fans fault we aren't getting lore accurate content?!?!
I think there is this weird idea by people in charge of movies and TV that they need to simplify things for their audiences, but oftentimes they go overboard. Especially when they are adapting a known source, like Witcher, Wheel of Time, LotR. It doesn't work.
Think of how overly complicated Lost was? Maybe it only works because everything else isn't but a little confusion in their delivery can be popular.
It wasn't oversimplification what killed the show, that's just a lie they want you to believe. They co-opted the source material and butchered with their activism
We know.
Remember when polacks were defending the first trailer? >Noooo, why are you discussing it, it belongs to pooland not you.
Frick you, polish morons.
The writers going on strike when chatGPT can do a better job than the drivel they released the past 3 seasons. It's like going to the mechanic to fix your car and they make it worse instead of fixing the problem.
>i-it's not the Americans, it's the Black folk/jews/liberals/coasties/democrats/blue staters/californians/deep state/whatever
Your denial doesn't somehow make those groups not-American. In fact they are more representative of America at this point than your small-government loving, 98% white, flyover state of 20,000 people.
>initial books were literally just parodies of fantasy stories so worldbuilding is deliberately shit and vague >recycled laughable plots like Geralt getting amnesia repeatedly >no original content besides a handful fo Eastern European mythological creatures
The Games are improvements in every way, and the author was mad he sold them the rights for so little because he didn’t understand video games were popular
So when Netflix offered him a truck of cash he’s happy to say he loves whatever they do because honestly these aren’t some cherished stories for him. Theyre schlocky money makers
>have a show with bad writing that is solely carried by interest in the property and a attractive male lead >proudly boast about your bad writing and story telling choices >male lead leaves out of frustration >no one is interested in the dregs of your show >blame them for you writing terrible scripts
They sat 100 hourse because it's the last game which happened to have the generic stoic white male protagonist who is immediately liked by women. After that, journos went on meltdown and began to review bomb games for having white male protagonist.
this obsession with stuffing downtown LA into every fantasy setting is doing so much damage to their projects its not even funny. Saw recently some korean pseudo medieval historical-fantasy mumbo jumo. All bugmen, not a single Black person nowhere to be seen. Only european who even made a cameo was clearly portrayed as a Marco Polo style character
True, a big chunk of the audience only watched so they could be a part of the discussion, last time I remember people that hyped about a show IRL was Lost.
No. Most people jumped on game of thrones after the nerds who had jumped on it early had been raving about it for three years.
The same thing happened with The Witcher, only it happened straight away and in reverse. The nerds brought all the basic b***hes to the yard, but Hissrich pissed in their milkshake, so they chased all the basic b***hes back out of the yard.
Seriously, I know this is a shill thread, so listen up shill. The moral of the story is DON'T FRICK WITH NERDS. We've got excellent memories and people listen to us.
And that's the only thing of value you'll get out of these threads. There is zero chance of getting an audience.
americans associate philosophers with long-winded grifters with tenure, not alchemists.
"natural philosopher's stone" just doesn't roll off the tongue as well
We have the same bs in France. They rename american movies but use moron words like very bad trip and add sex to titles a lot. I love being taken for a fool.
Once again I'm pretty sure they're complaining that the non-gamer audience didn't show up for the gamer show. They're not complaining about the actual audience they got, they're complaining about the "modern audience" they "updated it" for.
i was puzzle why they cast her because to me she looks ugly, she has this weird square like face and i don't find her attractive at all
in fact in the whole show i struggled to find a single truly hot female, the milk truk witch is decent i suppose
Blame, blame, blame. That's all it is. This show should have been a mix of Xena/Hercules. Monster of the week, some myth arc and a sidekick to follow Geralt through the country. Not every fantasy show needs to be Game of Thrones.
Yeah maybe. But WHO are they blaming?
You can talk about what it should have been, but in terms of what it was it was clearly meant for "modern audiences," and what I'm seeing in that post is the realization that "modern audiences" don't exists.
If anything he's blaming twitter for being lying hypocrites about what they really want. Which Cinemaphile was pointing out all along.
The first season the gamers brought a wide audience. The wide audience hated it for the politically correct reasons, the gamers hated it because it was wokeshit.
The second, thanks to a marketing campaign that promised to not be woke, only the gamers showed up, but it was woke which caused a full blown boycott of netflix from the audience that did not appreciate being lied to.
The third season nobody watched.
So at no point did the "modern audience" show up. So in reality he's blaming nobody.
Typical producer rainmaking, if it succeed it was because of their smart business decisions, if it fails its always blamed on something else like the audience. >Not enough people chanted thats why the rain didn't come!
Same thing here.
You can cope all you want but your audience was always going to be male dominated, at least for the first few seasons, and nobody was impressed by the girlboss diversity hire bait and switch.
Those reviewers that think it's just amazing how it's not just another white dude fights the monster, they don't pay for netflix, they're paid by netflix. It was my money you were after the whole time, and I didn't give it to you.
They probably didn't know this when they said it. But when they say "americans", they mean women and minorities. That's who they modified the show to appeal to.
The books wern't that deep.
I never liked wicher because of that scene in witcher 2 trailer where some guy farts on fire, gave me the impression that everyone in this setting farts and shits and pisses their pants all the time, disgusting
>we had to make our woke show more hamfisted because people are too dumb for our masterful writing
Maybe instead of making a shitty fem drama filled with ugly subhumans you follow what made the IP so successful in the first place and make it a show about a hot metahuman killing shit and piping down hot b***hes.
These talentless prostitute writers thought they were way smarter than they actually are.
The books aren't exactly the greatest works of art. But somehow the americans made them even worse.
I wish there was a Yurowood and Slavawood. Sadly the the only ones with the big bucks are also racially moronic orcs who can only corrupt instead of create.
if thats true why did they do that completely moronic time line skipping in the first season? it added nothing to the plot and it was confusing for no reason at all (of course wasn't done in the books like that either)
by the way the actual flat amount he sold the witcher rights to cd project for was $9300
and then later when the games blew up sued them for 2% of profit or so, which he calculated was 16million dollars, that was how much he wanted and eventually he settled with cd project outside of court of undisclosed amount but cd project only did it to be nice since he had 0 legal right for anything more than the 9300
good neighbor Dmitry Glukhovsky always brings up without THQ adapting Metro into a video game his books would've never gotten popular outside Russia, and is on friendly terms with the devs to this day
this
the israelitekosky only made 9300 directly from the games but indirectly probably at very least at least a million or more through increases book sales
shieeet i forgot the season 3 came out, so i just finished binging the whole thing today
here's my rating: s03 is worse than 01 but better than 02, which is very low bar 02 was so bland i struggle to recall single scene from it and it had almost no witcher in it.
s03 had more geralt screen time, but it was dreadfully slow where most of the time nothing was happening. that one episode where they wasted the entire episode going over that sorcerer party over and over again showing everyone's boring convos with each other made me want to rope, it was so boring.
there were only 3 good moments in the whole s03, the fight with geralt vs elves where he went through the portal, the fight geralt vs 3head girl monster at the castle, and the final fight at aretooza. thats it.. everything else ranged from boring as frick to mediocre as frick
so big fricking surprise, the only fun part of s03 was when witcher was doing some actual fricking witchering. and we get like 5 minutes of that in the entire season.
God i hope this show gets canceled so they can reboot it few years later with competent writers, they will have to, because studios like netflix are losing so much money with these work shows and movies they will go bankrupt otherwise.
>here's my rating: s03 is worse than 01
that should make anyone with discernment stop right there, because s01 itself isn't worth the time it takes to watch it on fast forward
learn2english
I didn't claim that you fricking said s01 was good
I was making a claim of my own that s01 wasn't worth watching, and therefore if the others are worse, then nothing more needs to be said—they can be safely ignored
>They couldn't pay you if they wanted to.
this
these troony morons don't realize studios don't have actual mages conjuring money from thin air
all these trainwreck projects were funded from money studios made few years back when they still made good movies and that money is running out, so the writer and actor strike is cominal not only won't they get wage rises, they will likely get paid even less
i am so glad henry is out, without him they can't keep this ship from sinking fully any longer
anyone here seem blood origin? god i hope not, jesus what a pile of shit
blood origin is the witcher show the writers actually wanted to make, they were annoyed they had to follow the books for witcher, so blood orign is the one where they had full writing freedom and could do anything they wanted. and it's one of the worst fricking piles of shit in existence.
at this point both netflix and disney need to go brankrupt so we can see rise of small studios again making low budget but actually well written flicks
>cd project only did it to be nice
This is wrong. There are laws in Poland that allow the IP owner to legally demand for more money if it is shown that they sold their property for far less than it is worth. This law exists so that IP owners don't get fricked over selling something for peanuts.
I'm not here to debate whether this is a good law or not, but CDPR absolutely did not pay this fricker out out of the goodness of their heart.
i am so glad henry is out, without him they can't keep this ship from sinking fully any longer
anyone here seem blood origin? god i hope not, jesus what a pile of shit
blood origin is the witcher show the writers actually wanted to make, they were annoyed they had to follow the books for witcher, so blood orign is the one where they had full writing freedom and could do anything they wanted. and it's one of the worst fricking piles of shit in existence.
at this point both netflix and disney need to go brankrupt so we can see rise of small studios again making low budget but actually well written flicks
Frick these buttholes. They emblematic if every pseud that ever got handed a cushy job in a creative field. We’re not incapable of following a complex plot; they’re incapable of writing one, or are otherwise so disingenuous as to make of us a convenient fig leaf for their own laziness.
turns out you don't even need some paid factcheck, people are so dumb they don't remember or worse, willingly selfgaslit at the slightest chance of cognitive dissonance
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You get a bump, I get a bump. Plus tranime guy is pretending to be Lauren which is funny.
i really wish i didn't have to watch these garbage shows but there are not many better ones and what else am i supposed to do with my boring life? stare at a wall?
it's like 4/10 for me, basically watch it if you have nothing better to do or watch
skip Blood Origin entirely, that one is so bad i'm not even gonna bother shitting on it.
yes, they all are because they have to be all israelitewood writters are part of the same union which when declares a strike you have to follow it otherwise you will be considered a scab
Im partway through season 3 and it’s a bit mind boggling at times. >geralt desperately wants to kill rience >they fight but geralt has to leave in a hurry >instead of taking a second to plunge his sword into his head he takes a second to break his arms and leaves >later he gets killed off in the most anti climatic way possible >same for that woman who can’t speak >they frame stragobor but then realise it was vilgefortz >vilgefortz gets captured and interrogated but geralt says nothing and does nothing despite being so upset about those girls who were being experimented on >nobody does anything and i mean anything while that woman whose name i can’t remember simply frees all the mages >cahir encounters ciri and for some reason now wants her to her to kill him even though he desperately wanted to get back to serving nilfgaard
To be fair i can barely remember much of S1 and 2 but does Ciri know Emhyr is her real father? Does Cahir? If so why didn’t he tell her?
Why does everyone hate Nilfgaard when their goals are the most noble and they seem the least evil? Unite the continent and live in peace with the elves.
that fight scene where those two mages connect their swords and now they both have to hold on the same sword and move it around is so moronic, that would make it 10 times as hard to fight with it
We know
>we back
>mfw the last few hours with no posting about how much I hated the witcher
Remember when the showrunner was bragging that she won't dumb down the plot for wider audience?
turns out you don't even need some paid factcheck, people are so dumb they don't remember or worse, willingly selfgaslit at the slightest chance of cognitive dissonance
Read these books years ago and it's pure schlock with 0 nuance. The most entertaining aspect of the show is somehow every single change they made to the source material has made the story even worse. When you consider it, it's actually very impressive in a way.
it's mainly because the first few Witcher novellas which ended up as the collection called The Last Wish were just European fairly tales for kids, rewritten by Sapkowski and adding Geralt to the story
>were just European fairly tales for kids, rewritten by Sapkowski and adding Geralt to the story
Will you idiots stop with this moronic meme? Only few of those short stories go into this territory and it's usually just some briefly mentioned trope or total, cynical deconstruction of some old tale.
how many European folk tales have you actually read, Huskus?
All of them. What now?
Yes, Sapkowski is a mediocre writer at best.
The show writers are down syndrome tier.
Only the the witcher team at cdpr managed to make it succeed
Im on season 3 episode 2 and saw this thing he fights on for like 3 minutes, i instantly thought of Elden Ring, there's multiple bosses who move and fight exactly like this.
I gotta ask, is this a thing from the books or does it show up in the games? I know the producers aren't fans of either, so i was wondering if the producers actually ripped off Elden Ring.
>Im on season 3 episode 2
Why are you watching this shit?
Spoiler: Yennifer is the hero and everyone has a big party to celebrate what a hero she is while Geralt is lucky to exist in her presence.
>Why are you watch this shit?
My father is a fan of any fantasy story as crappily told as it is, he wanted to watch this
>Spoiler
Do you think i wouldn't know that? When the hunchback moron showed up on screen, i exactly knew that her hideous ass was going to save the day.
Bullshit. If you father was a fan of fantasy he'd be boycotting like all the other fantasy nerds because black fringilla makes not sense.
You can't even write a good shill post.
He is 50+ no time to be angry at pointless shit, give him a break.
But do you know if anything similar shows up on any book? I haven't played the games nor read the books.
>He is 50+ no time to be angry at pointless shit, give him a break.
BULL
SHIT
You can just talk to me, nobody else is interested in this nonsense, and frankly you're VERY lucky I'm giving you the time of day.
The audience you wanted does not exist,
So what will you do next time? A failure is only a failure if you fail to learn. The time has come for a proper post-mortem. So put a trip on and lets get down to business.
Okay then I'll talk to you, how's your day going?
Great, I just watched episode 11 of Oshi No Ko which you should really watch because it deals with the issue of shilling properly. I'm a bit frustrated that it's the last episode for now, but I'm not going to complain too loudly because I don't want them to rush season 2.
Because we're aware you're watching us watch you. Seriously, big brain anime, definitely for anyone working in entertainment (or shitposting about it on the internet)
>anime
>Big Brain
I guess you have a sense of humor.
Yeah I didn't stutter.
Your audience capable of "understanding complex story telling" pretty much exclusively watches anime now, mostly because of the complex story telling.
Just watch episode 1 and then come back here and appologize. It's in english.
Not really into cartoons but good on you.
Did I ask?
No I'm FRICKING TELLING YOU to go watch it because it will help you understand what you're doing wrong.
Fricking Hollywood morons I swear. WE ARE SMARTER THAN YOU.
We have degrees in engineering and economics. You have degrees in "communications" and "literature".
You went to college? damn that's impressive
Yeah, most anons are either currently enrolled or graduates.
These "racist internet trolls" have the type of degree that they don't just give to anyone. Your analytics should know at least that much.
So perhaps instead of poopooing the "cartoon" while you waste time watching Insider Job and Family Guy, maybe, just maybe, be fricking grateful for the fact I'm giving you my time an attention to help you learn a valuable lesson.
Like for example, Oshi No Ko will help you be better at your job and give you an insight into the type of storytelling your audience is thirsty for, since in addition to being very informative for people in your industry, it was very popular amongst the people who didn't bother to watch season 3 of your terrible show.
I'm surprised you know that many words.
That's because you're an idiot.
Not joking, you're not as smart as the people you're pretending to be. This isn't banter. This me telling you that the first mistake you are making is HUBRIS.
You idiot.
This is provable fact.
What is a HUBRIS?
https://lmgtfy.app/?q=hubris
Right so you're going to wait until you need to bump the thread to "troll me"
Literally just wasting my time.
If you frickwits were any thicker I'd recommend using your skulls as tank armour, since apparently they're impenetrable.
In the meantime, enjoy your place at the bottom of the flaming shitpile that is hollywood. Because as we can both now CLEARLY see, nobody except me is interested in this thread. And I didn't watch season 3. You've achieved nothing except putting your transparent on display for all to see.
>Oh but I'm too good for cartoons and I'll keep telling myself that makes me better than you.
Whatever you need to tell yourself you future homeless drug addict. It's your career dumbarse.
Oh and that link is "let me google that for you." If you were any smarter you'd be just regular dumb.
Thridden.
It's a copypasta
I know, i wrote it 😉
she bears an uncanny resemblance to the cave troll from The Fellowship of the Ring
I don't know what kind of person would sit through a whining, hr cat lady for 2 minutes except for ragefuel. As if these c**ts contribute anything useful to the company they work for, while going on a powertrip as if they are something special.
She actually got fired for that video ironically
Average white creatura.
pottery
I’m honestly not even sure what book they’re trying to adapt at this point.
So are the games unironically better?
Blood and Wine alone is better than almost any game or show in the last ten years
This. Ending the thing on that Toussaint atmosphere high note + the great storyline and quests was a masterstroke.
Read all the books and yeah I would say so. They're like 8/10 pretty good but I didn't love them.
They would at least be fun if it wasn’t for his boomer-style leftard feminism infecting every single thing to do with female characters. I can’t believe no-one else ever talks about it.
You get a bump, I get a bump
I didn’t bump into you and if you try to touch me I won’t hesitate to taze your nuts off mister
You get a bump, I get a bump
>blackwash half of the cast
>"it's was simplified plot"
suuuure
Sapkowski ruined it by shameless whoring it out
Sapkowski is a grumpy old c**t, he doesnt give two fricks how badly they butcher his books as long as he gets paid
I know he's a shit producer trying to deny his own ineptitude, but he isn't wrong about Western audiences. Star Wars and Jaws are what lead to simple/shallow action blockbusters like the MCU dominating movies, and both are Western products.
Didn't he hate the games, but those games with their flaws were more faithful to the source material lel.
He hated the games but not because they were unfaithful to the source material or anything, in fact they have more depth in many situations but that's bound to happen being 3 games with countless hours of dialogues and thought behind them them. No, he hated them because he made a very bad deal, he sold the rights for almost nothing because he expected the games to flop, for literaly scraps to the point CD Projekt tried to make him change his mind and accept a % instead. He hates them because they were super successful and he got almost nothing from them, he even sued but again got nothing because he chose to make a bad deal
he also dislikes video games as a medium, so the fact they were more successful than his books will ever be just added to his butthurt
Believe me, he'd come out as hardcore gamer since forever, if he'd only get those CDPR shekels.
what a moron lmao
Kinda, that's why when Netflix gave him so much money (comparatively) he just bent the knee and suddenly all his "this is essentially a slavic tale, you can't tell these stories without the slavicness, the culture, the ethnicities..." became "slavs? where? here? no, this is super multicultural, insert blacks here now!"
>he even sued but again got nothing because he chose to make a bad deal
He might've got something. They had an agreement, but wasn't publicly revealed.
Doesn't really matter now. He was collecting money for his son's medical treatment. And his son died before the case was over. Now he's a lonely, grumpy old man with nothing much to live for (except drinking, which isn't a secret) and still more money he needs.
Wtf, that dumbass even studied economics at university and worked as a business consultant?
yeah, for nearly 20 years, thats why its weird af he managed to make such a bad deal
>he even sued but again got nothing because he chose to make a bad deal
I thought there was some law in Poland which states if your revenue would be 5000% of what you got back then they have to pay you further money. Or some shit like that, didnt CDPR eventually paid him money because they knew he would win in court?
Then again, he was smart enough to write another Witcher novel in the meantime and NOT contradict the games in any way in it.
He made dandelion blond in last book just to spite the game
>Polish frick Sapkowski still asshurt after 15 years video games popularized his overall meh books outside Eastern Yurop
>Russian good neighbor Dmitry Glukhovsky always brings up without THQ adapting Metro into a video game his books would've never gotten popular outside Russia, and is on friendly terms with the devs to this day
>Russian good neighbor Dmitry Glukhovsky always brings up without THQ adapting Metro into a video game his books would've never gotten popular outside Russia, and is on friendly terms with the devs to this day
TBF it helps that he's not a braindead bloodthirsty Zigger that wants all of them dead.
Glukhovsky got his break on the internet and he wrote metro for free as a content creator before that title even existed. Witcher Guy was like 97 year olds when the first witcher game was in development so in his old man mind it was impossible for a dumb kids game to ever match the legitimacy for storytelling for his franchise. He thought he’d be ripping some nerds off and didn’t care. Glukhovsky by comparison was young and very much into changing trends of the time.
good neighbor Dmitry Glukhovsky always brings up without THQ adapting Metro into a video game his books would've never gotten popular outside Russia, and is on friendly terms with the devs to this day
this
the israelitekosky only made 9300 directly from the games but indirectly probably at very least at least a million or more through increases book sales
>CD Projekt later approached Sapkowski for rights for the series. They were able to secure the rights for about 35,000 zloty (approximately US$9,500) from Sapkowski, who wanted all the payment upfront, rather than through royalties, even though these were offered to him.
>In a 2017 interview, Sapkowski said that at the time he had no interest in video games, and was only looking at the deal from a financial benefit standpoint.
>In October 2018, he filed a lawsuit against CD Projekt demanding 60 million zloty ($16.1 million) in royalty payments from the company for using the Witcher universe in their computer games. The lawsuit was launched despite the fact that Sapkowski had sold the video game rights to the Witcher for a single sum, rather than through a royalties contract.
>CD Projekt released a statement claiming that the author's demands are groundless and that the company had legitimately and legally acquired copyright to Sapkowski's works.
>On 20 December 2019, the writer and the company resolved the lawsuit with an amicable settlement. The company stated this deal was made in an effort "to maintain good relations with authors of works which have inspired CD Projekt Red's own creations." The details of this arrangement were not made public.
What a israelite.
by the way the actual flat amount he sold the witcher rights to cd project for was $9300
and then later when the games blew up sued them for 2% of profit or so, which he calculated was 16million dollars, that was how much he wanted and eventually he settled with cd project outside of court of undisclosed amount but cd project only did it to be nice since he had 0 legal right for anything more than the 9300
>cd project only did it to be nice
This is wrong. There are laws in Poland that allow the IP owner to legally demand for more money if it is shown that they sold their property for far less than it is worth. This law exists so that IP owners don't get fricked over selling something for peanuts.
I'm not here to debate whether this is a good law or not, but CDPR absolutely did not pay this fricker out out of the goodness of their heart.
You know as a public ally traded company you’d think they have a right to the shareholders to not tank their company with diversity hires. Can’t they be sued for that?
thats just poland, cd projekt is american company, if they refuse it's not like pole court can do shit about it
if i was cd projekt i would not pay that c**t a single fricking penny for the way he acted
Makes no sense, CDPR offered him % of the royalties and he declined, at what point does that law lose any validity? If a studio keeps offering you good deals and you say no I don't wanna I don't see you having any ground to sue them
I get the feeling that Sapkowski never really wanted to write the Witcher novels and that he was kinda forced to because of the popularity of the short stories. His Hussite trilogy is what he really wanted to write about.
the short stories are by far his work with the witcher, which the show decided to ignore completely
Then you know nothing about. He went into the Witcher quintology with passion, and spent a shitload of effort to make sure the various timelines of events would fit the many story threads, that there would be no plot holes etc.
However, it took so much out of him that by the fifth book he was completely exhausted with the characters, and also irritated by some in the fandom trying to force their various theories onto him (you could easily talk to the man in conventions), and so decided to make an ending that would be impossible to sequelize - kill almost every main character.
I want to read it, now.
https://archive.org/details/witcher2swordofdestiny/%28Witcher%201%29The%20Last%20Wish/
My thanks.
>and so decided to make an ending that would be impossible to sequelize
this 2023 do you have any idea how things are done today? you can have unlimited amount of prequels and spin offs happening during the same timelines as previous books
also he i c**t for being tired by fans pushing theories on him, so what? if someone loved a book a wrote so much they would obsess over it and write fan fiction and shit i would make me happy people like m writing so much
women can't write, their brains are already unnecessary convoluted and what comes out is spaghetti.
And they always project themselves as the protagonis
Wasn't this one massively debunked?
>
no
Oh yeah? I'd like to see you write something as powerful as this
The kvetching is strong in this one
When I read a book I mentally replace all the blacks with white people just so I don’t have to think about them, usually throws the story off though when a white guy starts committing crime or speaking all dumb and shit
Americans didn't ruin it. A small handful of self-aborbed writers and producers ruined it. They didn't "simplify the plot." Their writers are just morons, and don't know what to do beyond race-flipping shit.
>GOT, a show with 1000 side-plots is the most-watched show in recent history
huh
To be honest the show became zombie rotten brain tier around s4 and the viewers grew exponentially from there
tbf, GoT was extremely blunt at everything and there was no way you could get lost with the plot.
>Goldstein we made everyone gay and brown and people still didn’t like it?!
>I know Shekelberg, blame the people we were patronizing instead of yourself!
People like this sincerely should be shot in the face and dumped in a hole somewhere, no one would miss them or really care and there’d be 0 detriment to the human race.
what if it's because of of israelites AND Americans being moronic?
A consumer cannot be moronic not liking your dogshit, they’re allowed to dislike it even for nebulous reasons and let it fail. You as the creator are the only potential moron in the room.
You misunderstand, the people are moronic because they (a at least claim to) like this shit, you’ve probably heard how bad she hulk was but according to israelitegle it’s an amazing show lel. Normies eat that live action remake bullshit up so yeah they are to blame.
imagine bumping an anime thread over and over again just to prove your bad at your job and not even know you're doing it.
Hop off my dick homosexual nobody cares about your schizo bullshit I’m only bumping to piss you off now.
The average Canadian woman
You get a bump. I get a bump.
>He literally keeps on bumping the thread he claims to hate
Is this OP doing some reverse psychology or something? If so well done. I’m not hanging out in your lonely club house homosexual, rsvp declined, no pc4pc
You get a bump, I get a bump.
That would imply these writers and producers could have made something complex enough for anyone not to get, let alone an audience already into the books and games, and if you believe that is even in the slightest bit possible you're probably the dumbest person in the entire conversation. It is 110% fantasy so they can cope since like the other anon said, these types can never admit to mistakes. It wasn't their entire production philosophy, the priorities of the writers, their understanding of the material or their lack of desire to make something for fans of it, it was our fault for being too dumb for the complex masterpiece they wanted to make and had the ability or talent to do had they not been held back. Right. I'm sure that's what it was, who wouldn't have faith in these showrunners.
>it was our fault for being too dumb for the complex masterpiece they wanted to make and had the ability or talent to do had they not been held back.
NTA but this is the part I think you're getting wrong.
We're more than capable of understanding complex storytelling, but not at all happy with Black folk in fantasy. The people who are supposedly perfectly happy with Black folk in fantasy, aren't smart enough to enjoy fantasy Black folk or not.
So really he's blaming the wokies on twitter for being too dumb to watch fantasy.
Imagine a scenario where the restaurant blames you for being served with a bad meal, or if the producer of an item blames you because you were sold a defective piece of shit that broke.
That's what Hollywood now routinely does.
>Imagine a scenario where the restaurant blames you for being served with a bad meal
I've heard stories about Michelin restaurants where this happened
"Food artists" who don't take criticism, and literally become the Seinfeld "soup nazi."
Bagiński is a sell-out homosexual, but he's right in this case.
It's crazy to me that not once do these producers/writers/showrunners admit that they made mistakes
It must be some sort of Stockholm Syndrome where they spend so much time with the material that they lose all perspective
I lead projects and work, and I'll always say "Yeah, it could have gone better" even when the project turned out well. But you never hear that from creative types
True, that's what I don't get either. Must be an incredibly insular, egocentric creative environment.
>is it our woke fan-fiction interpretation of the source material filled with Black folk?
>no, it must be the americans
lmao rent fricking free
In the Witcher worl everyone is bad, which Americans can't understand. they need a cowboy to save people from evil racists. (Literal example: Red Dead Redemption)
>brown r*dditor seethes impotently
story of your life
nta but I've seen more than enough examples of Americans struggling to understand the fact that there doesn't have to be "the bad guy" in every conflict. And when there is one (or at least someone close to that description), it don't have to be le ebil nazis.
Even better, make the gnazees the good guys
plenty of shows with grey characters, moron.
>what is game of thrones
>netflix adaption is shit (duh)
>wah murricans
The best regarded westerns are ones where the "hero" are shady or have to do shady things.
The best regarded films are never popular. See Avatar.
to be fair the first RDR was a pretty morally gray game. It was only the sequel that went full racism le bad.
Which stuck out since the sequel is still a very morally gray game. Ditto GTAV with Trevor being a homicidal maniac but decrying racism. Still a great game tho.
Should ad that character-wise and background-wise, Arthur has every reason to not be racist, even by the standards of our time, while there's no reason for Trevor to see racism as any worse than any other awful thing.
GTA V's characters sucked. Trevor is criticizing things like racism and loyalty while he is a homicidal moron meant for edgy teenagers. Franklin who is an uneducated poorgay surrounded by morons his entire life is somehow the smartest person with the most common sense. Michael could be a good character but later on it all boils down to "im depressed and i hate myself waaaa"
>market streming service as slop on demand
>complain content in said service is slop
>we didn't even try to make it good because of you!
why would you think this is a good argument?
> we actively chose an ugly actress
> no offense Anya
Is Sapkowski the biggest cuck in all of fiction writing? The Witcher games are good but shit all over the books and the Netflix garbage is even worse.
>The Witcher games are good but shit all over the books
lol, no
The games have better writing than the books.
t. read all eight books
Sapkowski is generally hated by his own fans as a person. I unironically never heard anyone say he is a nice guy in person, everyone says he acts like a complete c**t on fan conventions
So, wait, I'm supposed to believe that Europeans all watch high-level, thought-provoking shows like...?
Fricking lol.
>high-level, thought-provoking shows like...?
Dekalog?
Mate, that was almost 40 years ago.
They actually do. Check any of the transnational shows made by HBO Europe like Chernobyl, Swamp, or Golden Life. Or any British series like Shetland. All of them mog the shit Americans produce
>Chernobyl
Great show, but it was popular in the US too.
>Chernobyl
>complex.
It was a good show but there was nothing complex about it, things got explained fifty times over like most TV shows.
TV in general is usually midwit proof, even when it's well made.
leave it to moronic thirdworld mobilegays to think those are "thought-provoking"
Ah yes, deep, though provoking shows like Coronation Street, Emmerdale or Celebrity Gogglebox.
First she says she wont change the story.
Changes it, but its for the better you will see.
People don't like, you dont understand she says.
Now, she blames everyone else for failure.
>Conclusion: Women
was she the one who said Cavill was akthsually fired because its hard to work with him after he quit because they butchered the source material he is actually a fan of
They even went as far as say he was an incel who assaulted some of the women in the show
did anyone actually back that up? because i never heard or read Cavill actually assaulting somebody. not even wikipedia has anything on it and wikipedia these days is run by twitter israelites who write down every gossip and rumor into famous people's bio
No, it was just some low level bloggers copy pasting some rumour that got spammed here & on reddit.
It was a "journalist" everybody quoted and reposted in tons of news and when confronted she just went "or so I've been told, the person doesn't want to make it public for fear of losing her job...yadda yadda". Basically they tried to make a narrative to discredit him, luckly didn't work, but makes you think, what happens when it does actually work?
>but makes you think, what happens when it does actually work?
didnt the accusations against Jonah Hill turned out to be an ex saying he was jealous and a douchebag, and one literal who saying he tried to kiss her in a house party when he was like 23 and she was 16
Don’t forget Anzis Ansaris accuser who accused him of going on a date with her kek. I think that was the one that took the steam out of the me too story as well
Californians ruined The Witcher.
>pic
I kinda knew Wikipedia has been already compromised, but I can't remember any other alternatives, other than that something-galactica site, or something. What's the point of things like democracy or freedom of speech, when someone has easily convinced everyone to go with just one option?
It turned out to be the opposite, the staff women were harassing him to do unwanted nude sex scenes
Do people actually know the meaning of incel these days? I swear it became a buzzword for libgays, like how troony became a buzzword for Cinemaphileners
non-ally straight white male
>is a buzzword a buzzword?
Yes.
incel wasn't a buzzword originally, before normies started to use it without knowing its meaning
Incel, cuck, troony, take your pick. Tbh you sound like all 3, no offense intended anon.
Ha! jokes on you I'm only a cuck
>simplified
Weird, I don't remember this one used as a propaganda codeword.
Huh?? Didn't they say Cavill got axed because he wouldn't shut up about wanting to be more accurate and represent the source material accurately? Now it's the fans fault we aren't getting lore accurate content?!?!
yes but theyd never admit that
throw out a bunch of contradictory lies and see what sticks
classic move
I think there is this weird idea by people in charge of movies and TV that they need to simplify things for their audiences, but oftentimes they go overboard. Especially when they are adapting a known source, like Witcher, Wheel of Time, LotR. It doesn't work.
Think of how overly complicated Lost was? Maybe it only works because everything else isn't but a little confusion in their delivery can be popular.
It wasn't oversimplification what killed the show, that's just a lie they want you to believe. They co-opted the source material and butchered with their activism
We know.
Remember when polacks were defending the first trailer?
>Noooo, why are you discussing it, it belongs to pooland not you.
Frick you, polish morons.
The writers going on strike when chatGPT can do a better job than the drivel they released the past 3 seasons. It's like going to the mechanic to fix your car and they make it worse instead of fixing the problem.
>i-it's not the Americans, it's the Black folk/jews/liberals/coasties/democrats/blue staters/californians/deep state/whatever
Your denial doesn't somehow make those groups not-American. In fact they are more representative of America at this point than your small-government loving, 98% white, flyover state of 20,000 people.
The books are genuinely bad IMO. This is because
>initial books were literally just parodies of fantasy stories so worldbuilding is deliberately shit and vague
>recycled laughable plots like Geralt getting amnesia repeatedly
>no original content besides a handful fo Eastern European mythological creatures
The Games are improvements in every way, and the author was mad he sold them the rights for so little because he didn’t understand video games were popular
So when Netflix offered him a truck of cash he’s happy to say he loves whatever they do because honestly these aren’t some cherished stories for him. Theyre schlocky money makers
>have a show with bad writing that is solely carried by interest in the property and a attractive male lead
>proudly boast about your bad writing and story telling choices
>male lead leaves out of frustration
>no one is interested in the dregs of your show
>blame them for you writing terrible scripts
zoomers sat through 100 hours of the game with no problems
imagine being so moronic that some ESL shitters from Poland managed to tell ten times more compelling stories using the same characters
who keeps hiring these talent voids
They sat 100 hourse because it's the last game which happened to have the generic stoic white male protagonist who is immediately liked by women. After that, journos went on meltdown and began to review bomb games for having white male protagonist.
Anjei Suckwienerski
they ruined a lot more than that.
americans are less qualified portraying not!europe than europeans are at portraying the US
most US fantasy is just an absolute disaster
this obsession with stuffing downtown LA into every fantasy setting is doing so much damage to their projects its not even funny. Saw recently some korean pseudo medieval historical-fantasy mumbo jumo. All bugmen, not a single Black person nowhere to be seen. Only european who even made a cameo was clearly portrayed as a Marco Polo style character
just like GoT's first season didn't reach people? LOL
grrm is probably the only american who is capable of capturing the dynamics of medieval europe these days
but no religion
To be fair, it feels like most people who like Game of Thrones only really jumped on the bandwagon during season 4. (When it started getting dumber)
True, a big chunk of the audience only watched so they could be a part of the discussion, last time I remember people that hyped about a show IRL was Lost.
No. Most people jumped on game of thrones after the nerds who had jumped on it early had been raving about it for three years.
The same thing happened with The Witcher, only it happened straight away and in reverse. The nerds brought all the basic b***hes to the yard, but Hissrich pissed in their milkshake, so they chased all the basic b***hes back out of the yard.
Seriously, I know this is a shill thread, so listen up shill. The moral of the story is DON'T FRICK WITH NERDS. We've got excellent memories and people listen to us.
And that's the only thing of value you'll get out of these threads. There is zero chance of getting an audience.
Americans ruined many things. But that's in their nature. The real blame lies with the pollocks that let this happen.
Reminder that they had to rename the first Harry Potter movie the as the Sorcerer's Stone because Americans didn't understand what a philosopher was.
They THOUGHT Americans wouldn't know what it was.
That’s spot-on. It’s intellectual snobbery at its very finest.
americans associate philosophers with long-winded grifters with tenure, not alchemists.
"natural philosopher's stone" just doesn't roll off the tongue as well
We have the same bs in France. They rename american movies but use moron words like very bad trip and add sex to titles a lot. I love being taken for a fool.
Once again I'm pretty sure they're complaining that the non-gamer audience didn't show up for the gamer show. They're not complaining about the actual audience they got, they're complaining about the "modern audience" they "updated it" for.
This is what get woke go broke sounds like.
Yeah well we saved A Clockwork Orange from having a gay ending.
You know she goes to her trailer after a long day with Henry and just rubs one out.
She is hot.
i was puzzle why they cast her because to me she looks ugly, she has this weird square like face and i don't find her attractive at all
in fact in the whole show i struggled to find a single truly hot female, the milk truk witch is decent i suppose
Blame, blame, blame. That's all it is. This show should have been a mix of Xena/Hercules. Monster of the week, some myth arc and a sidekick to follow Geralt through the country. Not every fantasy show needs to be Game of Thrones.
Yeah maybe. But WHO are they blaming?
You can talk about what it should have been, but in terms of what it was it was clearly meant for "modern audiences," and what I'm seeing in that post is the realization that "modern audiences" don't exists.
If anything he's blaming twitter for being lying hypocrites about what they really want. Which Cinemaphile was pointing out all along.
The first season the gamers brought a wide audience. The wide audience hated it for the politically correct reasons, the gamers hated it because it was wokeshit.
The second, thanks to a marketing campaign that promised to not be woke, only the gamers showed up, but it was woke which caused a full blown boycott of netflix from the audience that did not appreciate being lied to.
The third season nobody watched.
So at no point did the "modern audience" show up. So in reality he's blaming nobody.
would have been amazing
Good, piece of plagiarized trash stolen from one of the only good bong authors. Frick you Poland.
>frick Poland
Hey buddy theres a line
Typical producer rainmaking, if it succeed it was because of their smart business decisions, if it fails its always blamed on something else like the audience.
>Not enough people chanted thats why the rain didn't come!
Same thing here.
She saved it
She did not.
She just wasn't quite as obnoxious as everything else. She was still obnoxious though.
Literally me
You can cope all you want but your audience was always going to be male dominated, at least for the first few seasons, and nobody was impressed by the girlboss diversity hire bait and switch.
Those reviewers that think it's just amazing how it's not just another white dude fights the monster, they don't pay for netflix, they're paid by netflix. It was my money you were after the whole time, and I didn't give it to you.
“We cast the females specifically because they’re ugly.”
The chutzpah on these prostitutes is something else
Must lick chest to throat to lips
They probably didn't know this when they said it. But when they say "americans", they mean women and minorities. That's who they modified the show to appeal to.
The books wern't that deep.
This is getting closer.
The audience they wanted didn't care about the Witcher.
The audience they got was loudly unimpressed by it.
I never liked wicher because of that scene in witcher 2 trailer where some guy farts on fire, gave me the impression that everyone in this setting farts and shits and pisses their pants all the time, disgusting
This is the biggest cope. American love overcomplex plots in their media. Anything to distract them from their boring fat lives.
These histrionic yentas really lack self awareness
>be a bad writer
>actively hate the witcher
>attempt to make fun of the setting
>YOU JUST DON'T LIKE COMPLEX WRITING
sage
I've never been interested in polaks other than TW2 and cp2077. Those two are among the best stories in video games
>we had to make our woke show more hamfisted because people are too dumb for our masterful writing
Maybe instead of making a shitty fem drama filled with ugly subhumans you follow what made the IP so successful in the first place and make it a show about a hot metahuman killing shit and piping down hot b***hes.
These talentless prostitute writers thought they were way smarter than they actually are.
The books aren't exactly the greatest works of art. But somehow the americans made them even worse.
I wish there was a Yurowood and Slavawood. Sadly the the only ones with the big bucks are also racially moronic orcs who can only corrupt instead of create.
You get a bump, I get a bump
Kek.
The only thing I remember from the books is Mistle raping Ciri. I think it was my first guilty boner and I've re-read this part multiple times.
Ohh look at that, my thread is getting traction. Because I'm better at this than you and it's not close.
if thats true why did they do that completely moronic time line skipping in the first season? it added nothing to the plot and it was confusing for no reason at all (of course wasn't done in the books like that either)
This gets three seasons and mindhunter is cancelled goddamn bros
You get a bump, I get a bump
shieeet i forgot the season 3 came out, so i just finished binging the whole thing today
here's my rating: s03 is worse than 01 but better than 02, which is very low bar 02 was so bland i struggle to recall single scene from it and it had almost no witcher in it.
s03 had more geralt screen time, but it was dreadfully slow where most of the time nothing was happening. that one episode where they wasted the entire episode going over that sorcerer party over and over again showing everyone's boring convos with each other made me want to rope, it was so boring.
there were only 3 good moments in the whole s03, the fight with geralt vs elves where he went through the portal, the fight geralt vs 3head girl monster at the castle, and the final fight at aretooza. thats it.. everything else ranged from boring as frick to mediocre as frick
so big fricking surprise, the only fun part of s03 was when witcher was doing some actual fricking witchering. and we get like 5 minutes of that in the entire season.
God i hope this show gets canceled so they can reboot it few years later with competent writers, they will have to, because studios like netflix are losing so much money with these work shows and movies they will go bankrupt otherwise.
>here's my rating: s03 is worse than 01
that should make anyone with discernment stop right there, because s01 itself isn't worth the time it takes to watch it on fast forward
point out where i said s01 was good, because i didn't, i'm just saying that s01 was the best season of the 3, but they were all bad overall
learn2english
I didn't claim that you fricking said s01 was good
I was making a claim of my own that s01 wasn't worth watching, and therefore if the others are worse, then nothing more needs to be said—they can be safely ignored
Cope
Cope
>They couldn't pay you if they wanted to.
this
these troony morons don't realize studios don't have actual mages conjuring money from thin air
all these trainwreck projects were funded from money studios made few years back when they still made good movies and that money is running out, so the writer and actor strike is cominal not only won't they get wage rises, they will likely get paid even less
You get a bump, I get a bump
Cope
I mean, they're not wrong
Dude if BBC made it Geralt would be black
i am so glad henry is out, without him they can't keep this ship from sinking fully any longer
anyone here seem blood origin? god i hope not, jesus what a pile of shit
blood origin is the witcher show the writers actually wanted to make, they were annoyed they had to follow the books for witcher, so blood orign is the one where they had full writing freedom and could do anything they wanted. and it's one of the worst fricking piles of shit in existence.
at this point both netflix and disney need to go brankrupt so we can see rise of small studios again making low budget but actually well written flicks
Frick these buttholes. They emblematic if every pseud that ever got handed a cushy job in a creative field. We’re not incapable of following a complex plot; they’re incapable of writing one, or are otherwise so disingenuous as to make of us a convenient fig leaf for their own laziness.
>To be fair, you need a high iq to understand the Witcher
You get a bump, I get a bump. Plus tranime guy is pretending to be Lauren which is funny.
i really wish i didn't have to watch these garbage shows but there are not many better ones and what else am i supposed to do with my boring life? stare at a wall?
Is it background watchable?
it's like 4/10 for me, basically watch it if you have nothing better to do or watch
skip Blood Origin entirely, that one is so bad i'm not even gonna bother shitting on it.
Are the writers of The Witcher netflix show on strike?
yes, they all are because they have to be all israelitewood writters are part of the same union which when declares a strike you have to follow it otherwise you will be considered a scab
Im partway through season 3 and it’s a bit mind boggling at times.
>geralt desperately wants to kill rience
>they fight but geralt has to leave in a hurry
>instead of taking a second to plunge his sword into his head he takes a second to break his arms and leaves
>later he gets killed off in the most anti climatic way possible
>same for that woman who can’t speak
>they frame stragobor but then realise it was vilgefortz
>vilgefortz gets captured and interrogated but geralt says nothing and does nothing despite being so upset about those girls who were being experimented on
>nobody does anything and i mean anything while that woman whose name i can’t remember simply frees all the mages
>cahir encounters ciri and for some reason now wants her to her to kill him even though he desperately wanted to get back to serving nilfgaard
To be fair i can barely remember much of S1 and 2 but does Ciri know Emhyr is her real father? Does Cahir? If so why didn’t he tell her?
Why does everyone hate Nilfgaard when their goals are the most noble and they seem the least evil? Unite the continent and live in peace with the elves.
that fight scene where those two mages connect their swords and now they both have to hold on the same sword and move it around is so moronic, that would make it 10 times as hard to fight with it