If the brain emmenates conciousness this is impossible though, it would have to be a hallucination or lucky guess when they "see" something they have no way of knowing. Thats why this is bullshit, because its not verifiable. Or else id be able to do it right now and tell everyone what you are wearing.
So you just believe your own delusions until you start hallucinating them? Am I getting this right? youre gonna need to post some hard data for me to agree with it. Or remote view me right now in Houston.
the next step is, what are dreams? Failing to prove that the brain doesnt emmenate consciousness, dreams are also just "home movies" for what you already believe so... Bit of circular logic.
so we have a movie and book to go off of right? Im literally telling you to bring something more legitamate in because the book is based on circular logic and the movie is obviously ridiculing something that did happen. So show me im wrong.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
How is the book based on circular logic? The dude worked for project stargate. It’s literally a first person witness account.
I don’t need to convince your dumb ass of anything anyway. Its there if you want to find out about it.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>dedicates life to field of study >hallucinates visions that confirm personal conviction
Its on you to prove there is an outside link from the brain to consciousness otherwise its all circular logic based on visions, the visions are akin to dreams, dreams are emanating from the mind until proven that consciousness does not derive from the brain. Is this easy enough for you to follow or should I get more specific?
So If I join the CIA and then after retirement write a book whistleblowing UFOs thats legitamate too and to be trusted 100%? Because people do that, and by your logic here they are not using circular logic but truth telling their legitamate experiences.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>hallucinates visions that confirm personal conviction
Yeah bro just ignore the 300 person department dedicated to verifying the results as accurate. It’s one dude confirming his personal convictions.
I knew some dumbass was going to make this claim. Coin toss only has two possible answers, fricking moron.
So you just believe your own delusions until you start hallucinating them? Am I getting this right? youre gonna need to post some hard data for me to agree with it. Or remote view me right now in Houston.
>Spout bullshit, then snarky “Am I getting this right?”
No, because you’re a fricking moron spouting bullshit.
Hey buddy im not spouting anything, im just asking the questions! If youre not showing me anything to the contrary then youre really upset at me forming a conjecture on what we have available to review (nothing) so lets change that, post the proof.
>Coin toss only has two possible answers
What if someone were remote viewing it? According to Heisenberg's uncertainty principle that would affect the outcome.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
That is absolutely the wrong application of heisenberg. He spoke on particles, not coins. Observation of a coin toss will not change the results. You want to get into chaos theory if you're concerned with imperfections and the true nature of a 50/50 odd being slightly skewed one way or the other.
The real application of "psychic" powers in coin tossing isn't reading the coin, but reading the tosser. You do want the coin observed by someone to read their face or mannerisms to get a hint of heads or tails. It's a real world practically applying science. Look up Marc Salem, he is a very good at it.
Posts like this make me realise I'm too old for this website. This shit reminds me of cringe stuff that we'd talk about as teenagers 20 years ago when someone would say they can see 'auras' around people.
Odom
Covid showing that "experts" are herd-following morons
The Amazing Randy being a funded disinfo op
Docs showing that intel agencies actually did believe in all the remote viewing stuff and relied on it until electronic survellience and universal smartphone tracking replaced it
Many free manuals on how to remote view (though I have not had any sucess myself)
>Docs showing that intel agencies actually did believe in all the remote viewing stuff and relied on it
They show all those agencies tried it and threw it out because it didn't work. Remote viewing has been tested in unis and labs for over 90 years now without a single case that holds up under scrutiny.
Fraud magic is a multimillion dollar industry with housewifes and now i guess coping snowflake incels larping as warlocks. Universities around the world study this shit. Why do they all come up with negative results?
Maybe you're just really coping.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Why do they all come up with negative results?
They're not true believers and the negative vibes mess with the psychonic resonances, maaaan. It's the same reason why I can't use my psychic powers to turn the pages of the phonebook when you sceptics are here to harsh my vibe!
In a stargate thread some anon said Stargate the movie and series were a form of disclosure, funny enough Stargate had an episode where a TV show was made about them in their universe and the Air Force was ok with it cause it actually helped them out with covering up.
The CIA owns Hollywood of course it's deflection the same way morons think smoking weed is resisting the system when it was the government that weaponized weed and handed it out to the hippies to destroy that movement which started as a desire to decentralize power.
>The CIA owns Hollywood of course it's deflection the same way morons think smoking weed is resisting the system when it was the government that weaponized weed and handed it out to the hippies to destroy that movement which started as a desire to decentralize power.
I think you're living in a paranoid delusional fantasy land. obviously the CIA did some insane shit, but most of it didn't work or completely backfired. and people were smoking weed way before the hippies, it was a huge part of jazz culture and the beats. people who are anti establishment are often into drug use, why would that come as a surprise to anyone?
Didn’t the CIA declassify some documents recently that confirm remote viewing is real and they conducted extensive experimentation into its application?
I remember reading on some schizo website a couple years ago that some remote viewer saw heaven.
They said they couldn't figure it out. They don't know how it works. If it really did work, do you really think they have to abide by the freedom of information act? >we decided to tell on ourselves and were the ones that control the content that we release, so were totally releasing on true things
They can make up anything they want and release only what they want, FOIA is bullshit. Who's going to hold them accountable if they don't do it? Themselves? Get fricking real.
>spending hundreds of thousands or possibly millions to take out one(1) really badly fortified machine gun emplacement
Now that's how I like to see my tax money spent!
China had people who could walk through walls and other shit. It freaked them out so much they shut the whole thing down
The CIA made contact with demons
The US government paid millions for a guy to trip out on lsd in a deprivation tank and communicate with aliens while his lab assistant jerked off dolphins to teach them English.
The government will spend any amount of money necessary to combat the sworn enemies of Israel.
How does tripping in a tank connect you to aliens? Everything we know about psychadelics tells us it just triggers imaginary hallucinations, that doesnt add up. The bit about dolphins and english makes sense though.
>hallucinates visions that confirm personal conviction
Yeah bro just ignore the 300 person department dedicated to verifying the results as accurate. It’s one dude confirming his personal convictions.
Jesus christ you are another level of moronic.
So its true, if I join the CIA and then "whistleblow" after retirement you would have no choice but to believe my every word? Please dont dodge the question or avoid directly answering what im asking you, I see youre more interested in mocking me as a person and thats fine you dont have to like me but id like you to address this cognitive dissonance and answer my fricking question.
How would that be possible unless the brain is not the source of conciousness? What are your honest thoughts? Im trying to ask people itt and they just irrationally flip out on me.
Well there is a discrepency with the conversation were having now and the rest of the human population. I agree with you but I just play the side of a "brain realist" to see who will engage on deeper truths. How does the dmt trip connect two minds, would that be similar to quantum entanglement? I have done heavy dmt albeit not with another person and ive noticed people lie or exaggerate it but im open to hearing your thoughts
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
we’re all connected through the mind of God. Remote viewing “hacks” this process. But it’s achronistic, thats why its only around 50% accurate.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
That makes a lot more sense to me, I can see why it triggered so many anons.
>higher planes of meditation
Not what I said. I mean a real, tangible "other place" invisible to the naked eye
Well its written into all the texts that its beyond 5 senses, im at least willing to engage them on that. If you bring a new ruling into it that it must be viewed by the 5 senses they will even admit that will never happen unless youre a moses-like figure.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>they will even admit that will never happen unless youre a moses-like figure
So it's just a matter of skill
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
In the Book of Numbers (I know this is not what you want to hear) they specifically address this when people try to revolt against moses because they are having visions and seeing the future too. So the nature of Moses as being super special is clarified, if you want to go read it its in Numbers. (this is taking the bible on its own merits if you just dont believe it thats fine)
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
What if they really were having visions, but the visions weren't real. And what would make them real?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
You should study it and read yourself, thats why its a good book because it addresses all these things while not leaving out the mortality of man.
NTA but you seem to be unfamiliar with basic ideas in mysticism/new ageism. The idea that the brain is not the source of consciousness is very well known and has a billion different scientific and philosophical incarnations, from Plato, to Descartes, to new age morons.
It is not in fact very well known if you go to any room full of people and take a poll most people will not agree on the premise that the brain is not the source of conciousness, most people even christians believe otherwise until convinced. All modern science, all textbooks are not written from this premise.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I'm not saying it's correct, but it is a very well known idea. And furthermore I don't see why, even if the brain was the source of consciousness, and you also believe in an immortal soul, why that would make out of body experiences impossible.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
You have it backwards, its "the immortal soul" that is incompatible with the brain as conciousness. So you have adpotded some kind of new age hippie view that works with the modern scientific model of the brain. And if you dont see how that makes out of body experiences unreliable or at most advanced hallucinations then you are a moron. I never brought those up, idk if you were talking to another anon itt about those kinds of experiences, but my view is its possible but not what YOU think it is under the model that the brain emanates consciousness. So im glad we clarified all that. Do you have any evidence youd like to share regarding out of body experiences?
I don't know and that's the problem. There's so much well poisoning and egotistical opinions.
All I know is there's a lot more to consciousness and the cloud of unknowing.
thank you anon and bless your heart. I just asked hard questions to root out people who wanted easy answers. love sailor moon too btw her super mode is powered by the holy grail AKA Christ!!
The professor believed that the lsd allowed him communication with extradimensional beings who would help him make a breakthrough on the dolphin project which was getting clogged down with endless dolphin cumshots, the dolphin refusing to even try and learn the alphabet without getting a couple quick handies.
But wouldnt it be significant if it was in fact an entity that contacted him? Thats the more interesting question is did he just trip and get a cool idea or was it in fact what he claims?
>derivative unfunny coen bros ripoff >stuffed with coen regulars to trick grandpa and grandma into buying a ticket >even have jeff bridges playing the dude again
shame on this shitty movie
If there actually IS a higher plane, we should be able to get there just through meditation and thought. If you need to eat poisoned shrooms or whatever then it's bullshit
rabbi and hindu mystics agree the higher planes of meditation are the same as the effects of plycibin etc and psychadelics its just about getting you to do it naturally with control.
Psilocybin was planted on the Earth by Martians to help humans jumpstart their ascension to the higher plane and slowly evolve to make do with out it you fricking reatrd.
Bro you need to be going to church and asking God for a wife. Because this reality is the whole thing obviously. And that's like, frick. That's a torture reality where you have to ask and receive. Because maybe we never receive anything. I'm so nervous.
Yeah this reality is it. You point to this and you say "yeah that's the shit, that's fire AF". That's what God thinks that's why he doesn't destroy it. But for us? It's hell here unless you have a wife and a house. So we're pretty confused overall with why we can't leave without a gunshot to the head. Signing out sounds like a better deal a lot of the time than the slavery we get and the castration. Highly studied researchers think this may be a loosh farm. Because of gods omnipotence, you can meet lots of pieces of shit who met him. So if you don't have a wife, he's stealing your loosh. Pieces of shit who have wives may not even be real pussies. It's all like a trick designed to torture us. We don't know for sure our value. We might actually be worthless pieces of shit. Or maybe we're super rare for his hunger.
your perception of torture is based on the advancement of time, heaven is timeless and exists outside of time. So really, even by that logic, the quote is still valid as it pertains to existence in time.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
So all those rich idiots cryogenically freezing themselves stumbled onto the best option after all.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>heaven is timeless and exists outside of time
That's the dumbest shit internet gaystians ever came up with. So there is no causal structuring of events? No moment before you talked to israelitesus compared to a moment after? No change in your thoughts based on information your super israelite gives you? And you base this claim on what other than your own moronation?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
No, the heavenly view is above your five senses and thus your attempt to lower it to something human is your error in thinking. None of the figurative questions you just asked are valid. Idc if you think its dumb, thats what it is
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Then how are you able to understand it well enough to correct any of us? Do you have more senses than a human?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Well usually discussion is predicated on the two people having read or watched the thing theyre discussing. So the falshood of your question is predicated on us sharing no common ground when that isnt so. Have you read the Gospel of Jesus Christ?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Have you read the Gospel of Jesus Christ?
I'm more into scifi, not fantasy
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
When I was a kid my religious parents told me heaven would be non-stop singing praises to God for eternity.
Singing in church was always the most boring and tedious part of every church service, the idea of spending eternity singing hymns like that was absolutely terrifying, as bad as the descriptions of hell tbh
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
hi Rabbi
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
evangelical Christian, not sure why you jumped to that conclusion. bomb the merchants for all I care and open some camps.
Do you have any idea how boring it is to sing the old time hymns over and over.
I didn't go athiest like a homosexual, but my parents explanation of heaven as an eternal church service is still kinda terrifying to me.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Rabbi, why are you larping as a christian on a basket weaving forum?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
You Christ larpers who have turned their identify into believing in Jesus are so boring. No one's old books are accurate and you're all nutjobs. Don't forget to donate to your church so they may cover up the pastorsl's child rape ok anon. You're the best believer, good boy anon.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
wasted digits
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
wasted existence
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>my church had awful music therefore music is awful
Bro come on
The belief in God is not compatible with that embarrassing and pathetic defeatist mindset. God exists, then angels/demons/Satan exist. The world just got fun
Those pieces of shit are stealing from us and it's probably from our wallets or our loosh.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
So fight back you fricking gigantic pussy
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yeah bud that's the whole thing here. The alien pieces of shit are omnipotent. We're confined into a flesh prison and do slavery. It's just begun.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yeah no, I never give up. I don't believe in all that shit but if I did, I'd fight until the end
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
That's the thing with omnipotence bud, he's pure evil but he's an omnipotent piece of shit. So you can't actually fight against him. You just need to ask him more. Ask him for more.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I don't ask, I take.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
That's not what I'm saying about omnipotence and loosh. That's how it works basically. So you ask, "could the archons make me ugly", YES. And that's all they have to do to torture a piece of shit. Then they can promise him something normal like a sex life to steal his loosh.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
we understand your point youre just a fricking moron. Do you get my point?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yeah bud that's the whole thing here. The alien pieces of shit are omnipotent. We're confined into a flesh prison and do slavery. It's just begun.
I understand now why the papists kept any theological knowledge far away from peasants now.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
That's really a good contribution about omnipotence. The thing about omnipotence is you don't need to be that smart to know about food and sex buddy. So we're being tortured.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
That means fricking nothing. Holy shit literacy was a mistake. This site has proven is beyond any shadow of a doubt.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Lol God talked to me about food once. He told me pieces of shit were hungry. That's like severe gaslighting to say that to somebody. What the hell am I suppose to do about that. Why even say that to me. So that's what I'm saying about loosh. They're pure evil.
When did society collectively dumb down this much?
It's not just that these morons believe this shit it's that they don't understand why others don't share their moronation.
The internet has cemented contrarianism as the cycle of cultural life. If something is popular now, it’s almost guaranteed to be popularly hated 6 months from now. This has bled into societies acceptance of the scientific community. From 90s up until late 2010s science was on a pedestal with Bill Nye, “yeah science b***h”, and all nerd culture of the internet. Now the tides are shifting and, social media creating a cesspool for misinformation, pseudoscience is running rampant.
I’m sure it has nothing to do with the scientific community brazenly selling out and shilling propaganda for 2 years straight and ridiculed and deplatformed anyone who disagreed with the state sponsored consensus, only to backtrack all their messaging when the “science changed”
You're all moronic and have given yourself brain damage. The movie IS damage control but not about your homosexual loser larp fantasies about magic and being a very special boy despite being a shut in incel loser.
The book mentions ARTICHOKE and presents strong evidence that the CIA used it to murder people and also murdered people who wanted to blow the lid. THIS is the thing the movie omits because it's real not your homosexual crystal balls.
I dont believe in ESP and i think its dumb too, but i appreciate they tried to do a scientific study of the possibility at least. If you dont try research it youll never really know.
>the brain is an electromagnetic emitter/receiver >the Schuman resonance is real >nah dude putting things that emit microwave radiation thousand of times higher than anything we evolved alongside is not a problem see even the company that makes them says so
>heh heh cells aren't electro chemical chud that's why the military wasted all that money funding directed energy crowd dispersal weaponry that's why Steve Jobs and all these other tech titans that I worship don't let their kids play with the products they sell it's a process not an ideology and I fricking love science! Also if I say no ionizing a bunch I r smart.
>the military wasted all that money funding directed energy crowd dispersal weaponry
They did that but nothing seems to have come of it. They couldn't/didn't/refused to use such devices during the "summer of love" when saint floyd of the fentanyl ascended. Did they decided these weapons don't work, or are they too effective to be used as non-lethal crowd control weapons?
Microwave weapons have been developed and tested in the field. While technically non-lethal they can cause permanent skin and eye damage which makes bad press. So don't expect to see them used en masse unless the government feels it's back is against the wall during the day of rope. Sonic weapons are anouther options but again causing hearing loss and heart attacks isn't a good look. Interestingly both weapons were developed in the states but give to israel for initial field testing on the pallies.
?feature=shared
Why would they use them on Black person rioters when Black person rioters are one of their preferred weapons in the first place? Frequency and the human body has been an avenue of study for decades with millions of dollars funneled into it. Here is a CNN piece on it from 1985.
>They couldn't/didn't/refused to use such devices during the "summer of love" when saint floyd of the fentanyl ascended
lol this dude thinks those riots weren't the end goal
would you ever believe a human could lift 1000+lbs? it wouldn't seem possible until someone trained and trained until they could do it. It doesn't seem ridiculous to test the limits of other human abilities like consciousness
That was the reasoning behind the government fed their test subjects weird shit in the hope it would unlock psychic powers. They just had to find the brain power roid.
I always love it when /x/ spills out onto other boards and I get to see how absolutely buttfrick moronic they are without needing to go on that schizophrenic clusterfrick of a board.
>Americans wasted millions of taxpayer dollars
I'd rather it be wasted than stolen which is what happens most of the time.
or worse given to Black folk.
it's worse than that. the book proposes that the military pays for silly things like this so that they can intentionally leak them when they get caught doing monstrous things and the news will focus on them instead. the movie is exactly what the book warns about.
Even if things like this and UFOs turn out to not be real it's interesting to read about because there's always a moment where the government starts to realize that the phenomena has a real impact on the public consciousness and can be driven to hysteria by it.
It's weird hearing Uri Geller referred to as "that one Israeli guy". >mfw he still tells people to put spoons on top of their televisions when he's interviewed, as if you can balance anything on top of a modern tv
Making up apocalypse plans aren't a waste because they aren't made under the belief that zombies or Waterworld would actually happen, that's just a way to make the eggheads think outside the box and come up with novel ideas for the situations the government does expect to happen. Like massive amounts of climate refugees showing up at the border in huge clusters, just like a roaming horde of zombies, where you won't be authorised to use regular military tactics to kill them all. Or zombie apocalypse bases, that are really just self-sustaining military outposts in territories filled with hostile civilians, such as might happen in climate refugee containment zones or at FEMA camps for various other disasters, where they don't have any weapons to fight back on a military level but they greatly outnumber the armed military personnel and could breach defences with enough numbers if they become panicked or angry enough.
People get squeamish coming up with ideas of how the military can handle large amounts of unarmed civilians or kill them, telling them that they're making up plans against a zombie apocalypse removes that hang-up.
It’s easy to do whatever they were trying to do if you genuinely care about whatever you are viewing. Also many times dosing LSD, Melatonin, Ultra hydration, Electrolytes, Fasting, and Vitamin C. You can locate lost objects, view important events from the past and the future, as well as the present. Talk to dead people. Etcetera Etcetera.
>being too much of a dumbass to not know remote viewing is real
this movie is damage control to make normies think its stupid.
If the brain emmenates conciousness this is impossible though, it would have to be a hallucination or lucky guess when they "see" something they have no way of knowing. Thats why this is bullshit, because its not verifiable. Or else id be able to do it right now and tell everyone what you are wearing.
>when they "see" something they have no way of knowing. Thats why this is bullshit, because its not verifiable
The frick are you smoking normie? It’s easily verifiable and it’s not “guessing.” It’s around 50% accurate if you’re trained.
Why do you think dumb normies like you don’t know about it? Because its powerful and you cant be trusted w it.
So you just believe your own delusions until you start hallucinating them? Am I getting this right? youre gonna need to post some hard data for me to agree with it. Or remote view me right now in Houston.
>youre gonna need to post some hard data
the next step is, what are dreams? Failing to prove that the brain doesnt emmenate consciousness, dreams are also just "home movies" for what you already believe so... Bit of circular logic.
>make my lazy dumb ass agree with you
so we have a movie and book to go off of right? Im literally telling you to bring something more legitamate in because the book is based on circular logic and the movie is obviously ridiculing something that did happen. So show me im wrong.
How is the book based on circular logic? The dude worked for project stargate. It’s literally a first person witness account.
I don’t need to convince your dumb ass of anything anyway. Its there if you want to find out about it.
>dedicates life to field of study
>hallucinates visions that confirm personal conviction
Its on you to prove there is an outside link from the brain to consciousness otherwise its all circular logic based on visions, the visions are akin to dreams, dreams are emanating from the mind until proven that consciousness does not derive from the brain. Is this easy enough for you to follow or should I get more specific?
So If I join the CIA and then after retirement write a book whistleblowing UFOs thats legitamate too and to be trusted 100%? Because people do that, and by your logic here they are not using circular logic but truth telling their legitamate experiences.
>hallucinates visions that confirm personal conviction
Yeah bro just ignore the 300 person department dedicated to verifying the results as accurate. It’s one dude confirming his personal convictions.
Jesus christ you are another level of moronic.
>It’s around 50% accurate if you’re trained.
I can predict a coin toss with 50% accuracy too
I knew some dumbass was going to make this claim. Coin toss only has two possible answers, fricking moron.
>Spout bullshit, then snarky “Am I getting this right?”
No, because you’re a fricking moron spouting bullshit.
Hey buddy im not spouting anything, im just asking the questions! If youre not showing me anything to the contrary then youre really upset at me forming a conjecture on what we have available to review (nothing) so lets change that, post the proof.
>Coin toss only has two possible answers
What if someone were remote viewing it? According to Heisenberg's uncertainty principle that would affect the outcome.
That is absolutely the wrong application of heisenberg. He spoke on particles, not coins. Observation of a coin toss will not change the results. You want to get into chaos theory if you're concerned with imperfections and the true nature of a 50/50 odd being slightly skewed one way or the other.
The real application of "psychic" powers in coin tossing isn't reading the coin, but reading the tosser. You do want the coin observed by someone to read their face or mannerisms to get a hint of heads or tails. It's a real world practically applying science. Look up Marc Salem, he is a very good at it.
Uh you forgot to post prove aunt Sally. Not everyone believes everything they read on Facebook.
Meds. Now.
Posts like this make me realise I'm too old for this website. This shit reminds me of cringe stuff that we'd talk about as teenagers 20 years ago when someone would say they can see 'auras' around people.
I'm remote viewing your mom right now
Same, she has a huge bush doesn't she?
This is what I'm starting to believe.
Why
Odom
Covid showing that "experts" are herd-following morons
The Amazing Randy being a funded disinfo op
Docs showing that intel agencies actually did believe in all the remote viewing stuff and relied on it until electronic survellience and universal smartphone tracking replaced it
Many free manuals on how to remote view (though I have not had any sucess myself)
>Docs showing that intel agencies actually did believe in all the remote viewing stuff and relied on it
They show all those agencies tried it and threw it out because it didn't work. Remote viewing has been tested in unis and labs for over 90 years now without a single case that holds up under scrutiny.
lying shill
Fraud magic is a multimillion dollar industry with housewifes and now i guess coping snowflake incels larping as warlocks. Universities around the world study this shit. Why do they all come up with negative results?
Maybe you're just really coping.
>Why do they all come up with negative results?
They're not true believers and the negative vibes mess with the psychonic resonances, maaaan. It's the same reason why I can't use my psychic powers to turn the pages of the phonebook when you sceptics are here to harsh my vibe!
In a stargate thread some anon said Stargate the movie and series were a form of disclosure, funny enough Stargate had an episode where a TV show was made about them in their universe and the Air Force was ok with it cause it actually helped them out with covering up.
Recently declassified project Kona blue just confirmed our governments involvement with stargates
The CIA owns Hollywood of course it's deflection the same way morons think smoking weed is resisting the system when it was the government that weaponized weed and handed it out to the hippies to destroy that movement which started as a desire to decentralize power.
Damn them some hogs
>The CIA owns Hollywood of course it's deflection the same way morons think smoking weed is resisting the system when it was the government that weaponized weed and handed it out to the hippies to destroy that movement which started as a desire to decentralize power.
I think you're living in a paranoid delusional fantasy land. obviously the CIA did some insane shit, but most of it didn't work or completely backfired. and people were smoking weed way before the hippies, it was a huge part of jazz culture and the beats. people who are anti establishment are often into drug use, why would that come as a surprise to anyone?
The other anon is right and you post a boomer image in response lol
Desu
I promise you you're not a wizard
Didn’t the CIA declassify some documents recently that confirm remote viewing is real and they conducted extensive experimentation into its application?
I remember reading on some schizo website a couple years ago that some remote viewer saw heaven.
Yeah, which means it's 100% bullshit.
operation stargate
I think almost everyone who did it for long enough went totally nuts, though
They said they couldn't figure it out. They don't know how it works. If it really did work, do you really think they have to abide by the freedom of information act?
>we decided to tell on ourselves and were the ones that control the content that we release, so were totally releasing on true things
They can make up anything they want and release only what they want, FOIA is bullshit. Who's going to hold them accountable if they don't do it? Themselves? Get fricking real.
The absolute state of ciaBlack folk. No surprise that Putler is winning.
Amerimutts believed this kind of shit for decades along with them having UFO technology they got from being friends with aliens.
There was a magic missile gap, it had to be closed.
Just millions?
That's nothing. Worth it honestly just for the lulz
Did Heaven's Gate really get trolled into committing mass suicide by one of the students of the psychic spies?
it's a movie chud, but yeah the pentagon can't account for nearly 2 trillion US dollars in real life
>https://responsiblestatecraft.org/pentagon-audit-2666415734/
>the pentagon can't account for nearly 2 trillion US dollars
_____?
>spending hundreds of thousands or possibly millions to take out one(1) really badly fortified machine gun emplacement
Now that's how I like to see my tax money spent!
Yeah killing brown people on another planet for the ~~*Tokra*~~ great use.
GOOLD?
https://archive.org/details/FirstEarthBattalionManual/mode/1up
China had people who could walk through walls and other shit. It freaked them out so much they shut the whole thing down
The CIA made contact with demons
And what of good sasquatch?
Shacked up with the million dollar man
So you uh just believe that because... Yeah uh ...
The US government paid millions for a guy to trip out on lsd in a deprivation tank and communicate with aliens while his lab assistant jerked off dolphins to teach them English.
The government will spend any amount of money necessary to combat the sworn enemies of Israel.
How does tripping in a tank connect you to aliens? Everything we know about psychadelics tells us it just triggers imaginary hallucinations, that doesnt add up. The bit about dolphins and english makes sense though.
So its true, if I join the CIA and then "whistleblow" after retirement you would have no choice but to believe my every word? Please dont dodge the question or avoid directly answering what im asking you, I see youre more interested in mocking me as a person and thats fine you dont have to like me but id like you to address this cognitive dissonance and answer my fricking question.
People with zero knowledge share the same DMT trips. And most random druggies aren't using it as a tool just for the high.
How would that be possible unless the brain is not the source of conciousness? What are your honest thoughts? Im trying to ask people itt and they just irrationally flip out on me.
The brain isn’t the source of consciousness. That’s why I disregard your dumb question. I disagree on the nihilistic and solipstic premise of it.
Well there is a discrepency with the conversation were having now and the rest of the human population. I agree with you but I just play the side of a "brain realist" to see who will engage on deeper truths. How does the dmt trip connect two minds, would that be similar to quantum entanglement? I have done heavy dmt albeit not with another person and ive noticed people lie or exaggerate it but im open to hearing your thoughts
we’re all connected through the mind of God. Remote viewing “hacks” this process. But it’s achronistic, thats why its only around 50% accurate.
That makes a lot more sense to me, I can see why it triggered so many anons.
Well its written into all the texts that its beyond 5 senses, im at least willing to engage them on that. If you bring a new ruling into it that it must be viewed by the 5 senses they will even admit that will never happen unless youre a moses-like figure.
>they will even admit that will never happen unless youre a moses-like figure
So it's just a matter of skill
In the Book of Numbers (I know this is not what you want to hear) they specifically address this when people try to revolt against moses because they are having visions and seeing the future too. So the nature of Moses as being super special is clarified, if you want to go read it its in Numbers. (this is taking the bible on its own merits if you just dont believe it thats fine)
What if they really were having visions, but the visions weren't real. And what would make them real?
You should study it and read yourself, thats why its a good book because it addresses all these things while not leaving out the mortality of man.
>The brain isn’t the source of consciousness
Oh?
The brain is a receiver
For what?
These
Garfield's cum
NTA but you seem to be unfamiliar with basic ideas in mysticism/new ageism. The idea that the brain is not the source of consciousness is very well known and has a billion different scientific and philosophical incarnations, from Plato, to Descartes, to new age morons.
It is not in fact very well known if you go to any room full of people and take a poll most people will not agree on the premise that the brain is not the source of conciousness, most people even christians believe otherwise until convinced. All modern science, all textbooks are not written from this premise.
I'm not saying it's correct, but it is a very well known idea. And furthermore I don't see why, even if the brain was the source of consciousness, and you also believe in an immortal soul, why that would make out of body experiences impossible.
You have it backwards, its "the immortal soul" that is incompatible with the brain as conciousness. So you have adpotded some kind of new age hippie view that works with the modern scientific model of the brain. And if you dont see how that makes out of body experiences unreliable or at most advanced hallucinations then you are a moron. I never brought those up, idk if you were talking to another anon itt about those kinds of experiences, but my view is its possible but not what YOU think it is under the model that the brain emanates consciousness. So im glad we clarified all that. Do you have any evidence youd like to share regarding out of body experiences?
I don't know and that's the problem. There's so much well poisoning and egotistical opinions.
All I know is there's a lot more to consciousness and the cloud of unknowing.
thank you anon and bless your heart. I just asked hard questions to root out people who wanted easy answers. love sailor moon too btw her super mode is powered by the holy grail AKA Christ!!
The professor believed that the lsd allowed him communication with extradimensional beings who would help him make a breakthrough on the dolphin project which was getting clogged down with endless dolphin cumshots, the dolphin refusing to even try and learn the alphabet without getting a couple quick handies.
And what do you believe? Was he right about that?
I believe that that dolphin had the time of his life for a few months.
But wouldnt it be significant if it was in fact an entity that contacted him? Thats the more interesting question is did he just trip and get a cool idea or was it in fact what he claims?
>jerked off dolphins to teach them English.
Good work if you can get it.
This stuff and the star gate show are intentionally misdirecting people away from stuff that works
What stuff works and doesn't work?
The bible 100% works I reccomend starting from page 1, Genesis, and just read to the end.
Lol
Still a much more sensible way to burn tax payer money than giving billions to illegal aliens or trillions to Israel.
>derivative unfunny coen bros ripoff
>stuffed with coen regulars to trick grandpa and grandma into buying a ticket
>even have jeff bridges playing the dude again
shame on this shitty movie
This. its a bad movie with 2 or 3 good moments. For some reason Clooney getting mad at the solar cooker always makes me chuckle
so can the government see when i'm jacking off or what? and i don't mean because of my network traffic
apparently with 50% accuracy, yea
If there actually IS a higher plane, we should be able to get there just through meditation and thought. If you need to eat poisoned shrooms or whatever then it's bullshit
rabbi and hindu mystics agree the higher planes of meditation are the same as the effects of plycibin etc and psychadelics its just about getting you to do it naturally with control.
Why did you ask then lol
>higher planes of meditation
Not what I said. I mean a real, tangible "other place" invisible to the naked eye
Psilocybin was planted on the Earth by Martians to help humans jumpstart their ascension to the higher plane and slowly evolve to make do with out it you fricking reatrd.
Bro you need to be going to church and asking God for a wife. Because this reality is the whole thing obviously. And that's like, frick. That's a torture reality where you have to ask and receive. Because maybe we never receive anything. I'm so nervous.
>asking God
>this reality is the whole thing obviously
So which one is it
Yeah this reality is it. You point to this and you say "yeah that's the shit, that's fire AF". That's what God thinks that's why he doesn't destroy it. But for us? It's hell here unless you have a wife and a house. So we're pretty confused overall with why we can't leave without a gunshot to the head. Signing out sounds like a better deal a lot of the time than the slavery we get and the castration. Highly studied researchers think this may be a loosh farm. Because of gods omnipotence, you can meet lots of pieces of shit who met him. So if you don't have a wife, he's stealing your loosh. Pieces of shit who have wives may not even be real pussies. It's all like a trick designed to torture us. We don't know for sure our value. We might actually be worthless pieces of shit. Or maybe we're super rare for his hunger.
hi glowie
That must make heaven an eternity of torture.
your perception of torture is based on the advancement of time, heaven is timeless and exists outside of time. So really, even by that logic, the quote is still valid as it pertains to existence in time.
So all those rich idiots cryogenically freezing themselves stumbled onto the best option after all.
>heaven is timeless and exists outside of time
That's the dumbest shit internet gaystians ever came up with. So there is no causal structuring of events? No moment before you talked to israelitesus compared to a moment after? No change in your thoughts based on information your super israelite gives you? And you base this claim on what other than your own moronation?
No, the heavenly view is above your five senses and thus your attempt to lower it to something human is your error in thinking. None of the figurative questions you just asked are valid. Idc if you think its dumb, thats what it is
Then how are you able to understand it well enough to correct any of us? Do you have more senses than a human?
Well usually discussion is predicated on the two people having read or watched the thing theyre discussing. So the falshood of your question is predicated on us sharing no common ground when that isnt so. Have you read the Gospel of Jesus Christ?
>Have you read the Gospel of Jesus Christ?
I'm more into scifi, not fantasy
When I was a kid my religious parents told me heaven would be non-stop singing praises to God for eternity.
Singing in church was always the most boring and tedious part of every church service, the idea of spending eternity singing hymns like that was absolutely terrifying, as bad as the descriptions of hell tbh
hi Rabbi
evangelical Christian, not sure why you jumped to that conclusion. bomb the merchants for all I care and open some camps.
Do you have any idea how boring it is to sing the old time hymns over and over.
I didn't go athiest like a homosexual, but my parents explanation of heaven as an eternal church service is still kinda terrifying to me.
Rabbi, why are you larping as a christian on a basket weaving forum?
You Christ larpers who have turned their identify into believing in Jesus are so boring. No one's old books are accurate and you're all nutjobs. Don't forget to donate to your church so they may cover up the pastorsl's child rape ok anon. You're the best believer, good boy anon.
wasted digits
wasted existence
>my church had awful music therefore music is awful
Bro come on
The belief in God is not compatible with that embarrassing and pathetic defeatist mindset. God exists, then angels/demons/Satan exist. The world just got fun
amen
Those pieces of shit are stealing from us and it's probably from our wallets or our loosh.
So fight back you fricking gigantic pussy
Yeah bud that's the whole thing here. The alien pieces of shit are omnipotent. We're confined into a flesh prison and do slavery. It's just begun.
Yeah no, I never give up. I don't believe in all that shit but if I did, I'd fight until the end
That's the thing with omnipotence bud, he's pure evil but he's an omnipotent piece of shit. So you can't actually fight against him. You just need to ask him more. Ask him for more.
I don't ask, I take.
That's not what I'm saying about omnipotence and loosh. That's how it works basically. So you ask, "could the archons make me ugly", YES. And that's all they have to do to torture a piece of shit. Then they can promise him something normal like a sex life to steal his loosh.
we understand your point youre just a fricking moron. Do you get my point?
I understand now why the papists kept any theological knowledge far away from peasants now.
That's really a good contribution about omnipotence. The thing about omnipotence is you don't need to be that smart to know about food and sex buddy. So we're being tortured.
That means fricking nothing. Holy shit literacy was a mistake. This site has proven is beyond any shadow of a doubt.
Lol God talked to me about food once. He told me pieces of shit were hungry. That's like severe gaslighting to say that to somebody. What the hell am I suppose to do about that. Why even say that to me. So that's what I'm saying about loosh. They're pure evil.
Oh you're actually a schizo, not a moron. My bad.
Do you actually have schizophrenia?
this is what convinced me that there's something out there
https://archive.org/details/odom-manifesto
ODOM RULES
hey look the glowies arrived lol
was fun talking to you anons while it lasted
https://archive.org/details/HeavensGateVideo
When did society collectively dumb down this much?
It's not just that these morons believe this shit it's that they don't understand why others don't share their moronation.
The internet has cemented contrarianism as the cycle of cultural life. If something is popular now, it’s almost guaranteed to be popularly hated 6 months from now. This has bled into societies acceptance of the scientific community. From 90s up until late 2010s science was on a pedestal with Bill Nye, “yeah science b***h”, and all nerd culture of the internet. Now the tides are shifting and, social media creating a cesspool for misinformation, pseudoscience is running rampant.
I’m sure it has nothing to do with the scientific community brazenly selling out and shilling propaganda for 2 years straight and ridiculed and deplatformed anyone who disagreed with the state sponsored consensus, only to backtrack all their messaging when the “science changed”
You're all moronic and have given yourself brain damage. The movie IS damage control but not about your homosexual loser larp fantasies about magic and being a very special boy despite being a shut in incel loser.
The book mentions ARTICHOKE and presents strong evidence that the CIA used it to murder people and also murdered people who wanted to blow the lid. THIS is the thing the movie omits because it's real not your homosexual crystal balls.
>thinking money can be "wasted"
Yeah, but can you imagine if it worked? Or what if it was real, but Russia did it first? You'd be stupid not to try.
I dont believe in ESP and i think its dumb too, but i appreciate they tried to do a scientific study of the possibility at least. If you dont try research it youll never really know.
>the brain is an electromagnetic emitter/receiver
>the Schuman resonance is real
>nah dude putting things that emit microwave radiation thousand of times higher than anything we evolved alongside is not a problem see even the company that makes them says so
>>the brain is an electromagnetic emitter/receiver
t'isn't
>heh heh cells aren't electro chemical chud that's why the military wasted all that money funding directed energy crowd dispersal weaponry that's why Steve Jobs and all these other tech titans that I worship don't let their kids play with the products they sell it's a process not an ideology and I fricking love science! Also if I say no ionizing a bunch I r smart.
doesn't it irritate right wingers that everyone on their side is like this?
He's right about everything except the soijak posting. Shits insufferable.
I'm a leftist, and I agree with him. Electric universe theory is real.
marvellous seethe
>the military wasted all that money funding directed energy crowd dispersal weaponry
They did that but nothing seems to have come of it. They couldn't/didn't/refused to use such devices during the "summer of love" when saint floyd of the fentanyl ascended. Did they decided these weapons don't work, or are they too effective to be used as non-lethal crowd control weapons?
Microwave weapons have been developed and tested in the field. While technically non-lethal they can cause permanent skin and eye damage which makes bad press. So don't expect to see them used en masse unless the government feels it's back is against the wall during the day of rope. Sonic weapons are anouther options but again causing hearing loss and heart attacks isn't a good look. Interestingly both weapons were developed in the states but give to israel for initial field testing on the pallies.
?feature=shared
Why would they use them on Black person rioters when Black person rioters are one of their preferred weapons in the first place? Frequency and the human body has been an avenue of study for decades with millions of dollars funneled into it. Here is a CNN piece on it from 1985.
>They couldn't/didn't/refused to use such devices during the "summer of love" when saint floyd of the fentanyl ascended
lol this dude thinks those riots weren't the end goal
>sticks his head in a microwave oven
Sorry about your condition, hope it gets better.
Look how far we've come
would you ever believe a human could lift 1000+lbs? it wouldn't seem possible until someone trained and trained until they could do it. It doesn't seem ridiculous to test the limits of other human abilities like consciousness
>until someone roided and roided until they could do it.
ftfy
That was the reasoning behind the government fed their test subjects weird shit in the hope it would unlock psychic powers. They just had to find the brain power roid.
This is probably the most based thing a country has done in the last century.
>Americans can waste millions of dollars on dumb shit while everyone else is too poor to do anything
Feels bad to be a europoor right now
You wouldn't be complaining if they had succeeded
I always love it when /x/ spills out onto other boards and I get to see how absolutely buttfrick moronic they are without needing to go on that schizophrenic clusterfrick of a board.
Jedi are real.
I have been through the training and now I am a certified SITH
>Americans wasted millions of taxpayer dollars
I'd rather it be wasted than stolen which is what happens most of the time.
or worse given to Black folk.
it's worse than that. the book proposes that the military pays for silly things like this so that they can intentionally leak them when they get caught doing monstrous things and the news will focus on them instead. the movie is exactly what the book warns about.
Even if things like this and UFOs turn out to not be real it's interesting to read about because there's always a moment where the government starts to realize that the phenomena has a real impact on the public consciousness and can be driven to hysteria by it.
>that one Israeli guy that swindled the CIA for years by pretending to bend spoons
It's weird hearing Uri Geller referred to as "that one Israeli guy".
>mfw he still tells people to put spoons on top of their televisions when he's interviewed, as if you can balance anything on top of a modern tv
schizo thread
schizo poster
What's worse: wasting a bunch of money on a zombie apocalypse defense plan or having no plan when a zombie apocalypse happens?
Wasting the money
Well you won't be laughing when the aliens come down and the Bass pro shop pyramid isn't enough for them.
Making up apocalypse plans aren't a waste because they aren't made under the belief that zombies or Waterworld would actually happen, that's just a way to make the eggheads think outside the box and come up with novel ideas for the situations the government does expect to happen. Like massive amounts of climate refugees showing up at the border in huge clusters, just like a roaming horde of zombies, where you won't be authorised to use regular military tactics to kill them all. Or zombie apocalypse bases, that are really just self-sustaining military outposts in territories filled with hostile civilians, such as might happen in climate refugee containment zones or at FEMA camps for various other disasters, where they don't have any weapons to fight back on a military level but they greatly outnumber the armed military personnel and could breach defences with enough numbers if they become panicked or angry enough.
People get squeamish coming up with ideas of how the military can handle large amounts of unarmed civilians or kill them, telling them that they're making up plans against a zombie apocalypse removes that hang-up.
Kino reading
https://archive.org/details/CONPLAN8888/mode/1up
Tried a remote viewing experiment on /x and this was the result. Remote viewing is real.
How much do you think it costs to get a few goats, soldiers and "scientists" in a room? It was a scam
>millions
Chump change. Look up what they blew on the F35 or the Littoral combat ships.
he doesn't know we made jedi real
It’s easy to do whatever they were trying to do if you genuinely care about whatever you are viewing. Also many times dosing LSD, Melatonin, Ultra hydration, Electrolytes, Fasting, and Vitamin C. You can locate lost objects, view important events from the past and the future, as well as the present. Talk to dead people. Etcetera Etcetera.