Thor has no chance of catching up. Doctor Strange opened higher and never reached a billion, and Thor 4 has even worse word of mouth. Tick, tock marvelgays, Tom is coming for Wakanda's ass next.
Dr Strange was a Civil War/Endgame movie that everyone knew was going to have a bunch of crossover heros and also resolve the plot from WandaVision. Thor's just a regular Marvel movie. You'd want to compare it to something like Ragnarok or Captain Marvel.
You under estimate black people. They've been skipping other movies and saving up their money all year to see Black Panther 2, it's gonna break records and be the least bootlegged movie ever.
>It's outpacing Ragnarok by quite a bit
lol no it isn't. It's Sunday take is lower than Ragnarok's. The WOM for Ragnarok was great, the WOM for this is mixed at best
Frick you're moronic. It opened much bigger on the first day then fell of much harder than Ragnarok to the point that it's daily takes were lower by day 2. You don't understand what "Outpacing" means
Weekends are longer now than when Ragnarok was released.
Not even joking, there's an extra day of "previews" that pumps up the OW BO
2 years ago
Anonymous
They do 3 day totals like they always have. So if the movie opened on Thursday, they don't count sunday. Or they specify it's a 4-day total. They have different categories and qualifiers. It is not all the same.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>So if the movie opened on Thursday, they don't count sunday.
Wrong
2 years ago
Anonymous
prove it, show your work.
2 years ago
Anonymous
How about the fact that the Thursday take was rolled into Friday for Thor and they still included the Sunday take?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Who is? Show the source.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Just go to box office mojo and look for yourself
2 years ago
Anonymous
Why would I use them as a source if they're doing this then? Look at one that actually has Thursday totals. You're smart enough to catch the issue, but too dumb to work around it.
>This is also getting a China release!
It has not been confirmed, it's just what Disney hopes as of yet. I guess this is why the lesbian thing was so very toned down compared to what they claimed.
>Highest December Holiday Weekend 8pm to 12am Views! >Most Tweeted Teen Centered Docu-adrama! >3rd Highest Rated Movie From Disabled Furries since 2018!
Irrelevant. They're not aiming to get strong returns longterm. They're goal is rapid profit.
Because they are putting out a few movies yearly they get their longterm profit from people going to the movies every couple months or subscribing to Disney plus.
I agree that this was bad. But I don't agree that multiverse of madness was bad. Multiverse of madness was the best marvel film. That being said, the competition isn't that great.
>Either cap out around the 900 million mark or 1.2b
It's not going anywhere near a billion. Even the really popular MCU films are front loaded and make over a third of their box office on opening weekend
Marvel solo movies cannot hit $1 billion without China, and Marvel is banned in China apparently. Without China the movie has to have be a huge hit from the 2nd biggest movie market, that's why Top Gun hit $1b
>Cinemaphile generally did not like strange2 and thinks it was low quality?
Yeah the movie being a piece of shit objectively speaking tends to do just that to this board
Sam Raimi is just a hack and always has been but at least he used to have a style, Kevin Feige didn't even let him do shit though, so the movie ended up being not just bad but also soulless. Sad story really
>Yeah the movie being a piece of shit objectively speaking tends to do just that to this board
You writing that on the board that unironically thinks Zack Snyder is a genius and his Snyderverse shit is actually brilliant?
The first one was meh but it was still a mostly competent film. This new one was a total mess and fails at the basics of plotting and character development. It was a junk food movie and Thor 4 seems to be the same. Marvel is getting lazier and more low IQ than ever
Strange 1 was a great movie. It had an important lesson as a payoff. The fights in it were inventive and effort were put into them. Strange 2 consisted of people waving their arms around, references to old Raimi movies that took away from the character, and "nothing means anything" multiverse story that has been told roughly 100 times in the past couple years.
Strange 1 was a great movie. It had an important lesson as a payoff. The fights in it were inventive and effort were put into them. Strange 2 consisted of people waving their arms around, references to old Raimi movies that took away from the character, and "nothing means anything" multiverse story that has been told roughly 100 times in the past couple years.
Where the first Strange movie lacked spectacle, it made up for it in direct plot and character development. It was fairly bog standard and as a result somewhat forgettable, but as an experience was more enjoyable. When I left the movie I felt it was pretty good. Strange 2 had wild ups and downs. There were moments I thought were quite fun, such as zombie Strange as you pictured, and both the stones to cast Wanda as a villain and the visuals used to make her occasionally horrifying. However, there were far more moments when I said "okay what the frick," and the overall plot was frustratingly bad and could be better written by an average 15-year-old.
It's not even that Strange 2 is bad, it's that it is purposely worse than it could be because everything in Phase 4 has to work towards tearing down established heroes to prop up future shitty ones no one wants to see.
I like Dr.strange 2. It had some messy moments, but I like it took chances. Rami takes risks and being creative is subjective, mostly I enjoyed it, but won't say it was perfect.
It's opening weekend is around 75% of dr strange, suggesting a bit over 700 billion total. adjust that up or down on how you think word of mouth will play out.
>Keeps on marching
Looks like these malnourished soldiers have trench foot >TWELFTH biggest!!!!
.......yay? >highest for Taika Cohen!
He did better than his last and only previous MCU film? Oooooooh high bar indeed!
While I do not think Love and Thunder will fail to turn a profit, I believe that like most Phase 4 movies it points to a gradual decline in profits as more and more leads leave the franchise and those they replace them with are altogether worse, not to mention the decline in writing that peaked some four years ago. I do believe that we will continue to see flagging reviews and profits over the next couple years as interest in the brand fades. Coupled with the lukewarm reception to the Star Wars sequel trilogy, I personally think by 2025 if there is not some radical alteration to course that both series will fade into irrelevance.
But that is just my opinion of course. Could be they crank out something totally shit and it still pulls 1.5bn. Wouldn't be the first time.
At no point did I state or even dimly allude to either of those. I am interested to see how in the world you drew this conclusion.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'm just explaining what you said
2 years ago
Anonymous
I didn't say at any point either that Marvel is cinema or that cinema is dying. I said that Marvel will likely experience a gradual decline in profits as interest fades both in their Star Wars and Marvel series of movies. You're either a moron or pretending to be a moron, both are equally pathetic in my eyes.
Saying cinema is dying because of the popular movies is dumb.
It's like saying music is dying because of pop music. When in fact music has never been so diverse, had such a large number of creators, and had such limitless accessibility to music from anywhere in the world aswell as access to events and gigs for all genres.
Saying cinema is dying because you are too lazy to scratch below the surface is stupid
I suspect "Captain America" 4 is going to be the real wake up call moment for Disney. You can tell deep down they are getting nervous, with how much they have to blast everywhere across MSM and social media that Anthony Mackie is Captain America now seriously guys!
You are moronic, if Marvel dies streaming crap will devour cinema
2 years ago
Anonymous
Cinema will go similar to horses after cars were invented.
It'll go and has been going from the primary provider of Cinema to being a luxury thing for hobbyists and the occasional activity
2 years ago
Anonymous
What would replace cinema
2 years ago
Anonymous
Streaming services. Convenience always wins.
Not for a while maybe but eventually
2 years ago
Anonymous
GOOD. As horses now are only used for races, breeding or actual shows most shitty horses have been weed out (unless you live in a fricking third world shithole), so the only horses that are around are the actually useful, beautiful ones. If the same happens to cinema it will be a blessing. No more shitty movies and instead actual cinematographers will carry an atomized but highly engaged industry.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yeah I agree. Cinema will be a occasional activity for when there's an especially good movie out. That'll be its corner of the market. And it'll do more showings of classic movies like lotr extended for example.
Wow, you're slow. They can put ads on their own platforms for free.
They also just lease ad space at certain locations year round and cycle out their different movies. Sometimes, if a studio doesn't buy the ad space for one they don't have an indefinite hold on they get to just leave their poster up forever, too. There's a billboard on Sunset Blvd that's had an ad for Quiet Place 2 up since March 2020. Do you think the studio is actually paying a monthly fee to keep that up there?
Hell, there's one on Fountain and Crescent that's got an ad for the premiere of Naruto Shippuden still up on it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Putting ads on your own platform means you aren't getting paid to run someone else's ads so it still costs you money
The Marvel spider man movies had like $200m in marketing, frick off
2 years ago
Anonymous
That's because Spider-Man historically has the highest audience yield (Soider-Man 2 was the highest grossing super hero movie in history for like over a decade) plus it's a joint venture with Marvel & Sony so they both split the budget
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Soider-Man 2 was the highest grossing super hero movie in history for like over a decade
Why are Marvelshills trying to change history?
Spiderman (1 not 2) was the highest grossing superhero movie for only 6 years until The Dark Knight came out.
2 years ago
Anonymous
"Marvel Studios has spent an estimated $200+ million on the marketing budget for Avengers: End Game. $50 million more than they usually spend on their movies."
So at most they spent $400 million on Production + marketing. They already made $302 million in the opening weekend, and it's going to run for like another month.
If it makes another $98 million they break even and it's estimated to make at least another $57-$107 million domestic, and then whatever else they get globally. So, it's on track to do just fine.
2 years ago
Anonymous
"Just fine" is kind of a different scenario than "MARVEL WINS AGAIN!"
2 years ago
Anonymous
I don't think so. As long as it isn't a flop it will continue to generate revenue from streaming, rentals, and merchandise and means that when they do a big crossover movie with the characters they'll be likely to generate another huge hit. It would be different if it flopped, especially if it was a huge event movie like Endgame.
2 years ago
Anonymous
And the goalpost moving begins
2 years ago
Anonymous
What did you think Wins Again meant?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Or it ruins their branding because it's lazy.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>They already made $302 million in the opening weekend, and it's going to run for like another month.
No you moron, they don't get all of the box office money, domestically Disney get ~60%, from foreign gross they get ~25-40% depending on country, the rest goes to the theatres.
2 years ago
Anonymous
> spent an estimated $200+ million on the marketing budget for Avengers: End Game > $50 million more than they usually spend on their movies."
So the default marketing budget is $150 mil.
Film production was $250 mil.
Theatres have made $302 mil so far, out of which Disney gets around 50% in the US, about 35% on average from international
> $143 million domestic
means $71.5 million profit for Disney > $159 million overseas
means $55.65 million profit for Disney
Total profit in the opening weekend - $127.15 milloin
This film will be at least $80 million loss.
How many such losses can Disney take, even with Hollywood bookkeeping magic?
2 years ago
Anonymous
With this kind of DCuck math even Top Gun flopped
2 years ago
Anonymous
That's why I was asking about the ~~*bookkeeping*~~ tricks.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>DCuck
Grow up
2 years ago
Anonymous
Not true. >$170 million production budget >Lets assume the same $150 million marketing budget >Domestic box office would give just under $300 million in profit after 50/50 split with theaters >International would be just over $200 million after 35/65 split
So that means Top Gun managed to generate around $180 million in profit.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You don't know how to use the word "profit" correctly
And it made 300 million opening weekend. That's all the money back plus $50 million, which is more than enough to cover the marketing budget.
HAHAHAH
At least $700m to break even
On some level you have to know that would make every movie ever released a massive failure, and so doesn't make any logical sense that that's how it would work. Someone just meme'd that on here and you idiots latched onto it so you can delude yourselves into thinking that movies that are obviously succeeding are somehow losing money.
That would mean Top Gun also lost $300 million at the box office.
> "They spent 18 trillion on marketing knowing no movie would ever be able to make that much back." - Source: My Ass.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'm not even taking marketing into account and you're still an idiot. Think about it
2 years ago
Anonymous
It made $50 million more than it cost to make, Anon.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Idiot
2 years ago
Anonymous
Dilate your butthole.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You still don't get it. You're not thinking. Lightyear cost 200mil in production and made 204mil at the box office. Now excluding any marketing costs has it made it's money back for Disney?
2 years ago
Anonymous
No, because Disney doesn't get 100% of the box office.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Good boy! You figured it out. So what else hasn't made it's production back?
2 years ago
Anonymous
You?
2 years ago
Anonymous
That wasn't me. Disney gets like 98% of the box office profits because they're a monopoly that can threaten to tank any theater it wants by blackballing them from any future releases. That's how they forced Hateful 8 out of every theater that could project it in 70mm and caused Tarantino to spaz out on Howard Stern about it.
Light-year obviously hasn't because it didn't make back marketing, but it would probably break even just talking about production costs.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Disney gets like 98% of the box office
I know you’re trolling, but anons here need to hear the harsh truth. The meme about studios only getting 50% of the profits (with theaters getting the other 50%) is a complete myth.
>WSJ reports Disney has crafted agreements through which it will receive roughly 65 percent of ticket sales, "a new benchmark for a Hollywood studio" according to the report. (Average splits range from 40 percent abroad to 55 percent on average in the US to 60 percent for only the largest hits, WSJ writes.)
2 years ago
Anonymous
No it's not, it's well documented that overall the studio get 50% of the box office, with Disney being the outlier as they could negotiate (read strongarm) 60% based upon their huge amounts of hit titles.
The theatres can't survive on popcorn sales you fricking dimwit.
Ok, so you're saying every successful movie makes double their production + marketing back at the box office, then? I feel like they always have to account for home movie sales and rental to actually turn the profit and theaters are just for getting a large chunk of it back if that's the case.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Only blockbuster/tenthpole type movies can afford massive marketing.
And post box office streaming deals can be very lucrative, and bluray sales are still making good money, for Marvel stuff though, that's used to prop up D+ subscriptions.
2 years ago
Anonymous
No it's not, it's well documented that overall the studio get 50% of the box office, with Disney being the outlier as they could negotiate (read strongarm) 60% based upon their huge amounts of hit titles.
The theatres can't survive on popcorn sales you fricking dimwit.
2 years ago
Anonymous
250 million is only for the production. You can easily add at least 100 million for marketing, if not more. So that's about 350 million. Theaters take about 50% of the profit from tickets sold. Actors and the people who worked on the movie need to get paid. The rest after that is profit. So with a cost of 350 million they need to make like 600-700 only to break even.
You can’t look at the movie and seriously think it cost 250,000,000 USD. The budget is fake, at least 150,000,000 of that was just for laundering and isn’t really a loss. After actor contracts and the cheap shitty CGI and everything it was maybe 100,000,000.
Nah, Disney do just generally spend insane amounts of money on things. Their animation budgets are also close to double what anyone else spends, even with rival companies using more celebrity voices.
Disney just spent $500m building Guardians of the Galaxy at Epcot. You could build an entire theme park for that much.
Its one part inflation, one part carefully orchestrated embezzlement from the producers and studio heads, one part industry wide brain drain making everything take longer and cost more than it should, and two parts rushed production schedules that exasperate the previous issue five times over. That last point is the real killer, movies used to take 3+ years to make, now they turn them around in half the time.
Effects heavy features used to get over a year in post-production, now they get a few months. What ends up happening is a few weeks out from release nothing is done and the studio ends up subcontracting out tons of remaining CGI work to a hundred different third world sweatshop effects houses. The end result being god awful CGI that costs astronomically more than if they had taken the time to do it in house with component people.
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's pretty interesting to read stories from VFX house workers about Marvel movies.
gotta love the moving goal-posts where being 3rd biggest opening weekend of the year and 12th biggest MCU opening are being heralded when the expectations before were biggest movie of the year.
??? There is another variant that’s eeven more contaigeous and yes there still are restrictions. Even if there were non there would still be hestitancy to do normal things because of a new variant
Because it appeals to conservatives and they don’t care about COVID, whereas most mcu fans are probably a little more progressive and less likely to risk going to a theater
one of the criticisms of this movie is that its underwritten apparently? it seems on par with most of these marvel movies; i dont see what about this in particular is underbaked
I've been seeing a lot of reviews saying it should've been longer to give scenes room to breathe. As it is, it's already shorter than Ragnarok's runtime.
This. Marvel projected a huge win, but it’ll barely get to 900 mil (very generous). Most of you are too moronic to comprehend, but you have to understand: Marvel’s ascent was gradual and their fall will be gradual. MCU isn’t going to crash overnight.
I would watch other stuff if other studios made good fun movies like Marvel, took 10 years for Cruise to make a Marvel tier movie like Top Gun and that's just a one off
They're an entertainment company. When people focus on paying the bills or building up a savings buffer, people go to the cinema less and don't spend $4000 on a trip to Disneyworld.
2 years ago
Anonymous
They also don't pay to see movies that are terrible and full of gay things.
Why do people act like stocks matter, even when they drop the people making these products don’t truly suffer. Some irrelevant morons and investors temporarily feel a minor squeeze. The stock market is literally made up, it’s not fricking real, they get bailed out if they’re in real trouble, our money isn’t real, our economy isn’t real, it’s backed by nothing. This means nothing. How are people still this fricking deluded it’s the same rich homosexuals on top that have been there literally since like 1965, they’re 100 years old and they are pure evil, they and their spawn slowly taking their place, you aren’t part of it, it doesn’t matter, the only thing that truly matters is narrative. Even if they went full woke broke, the government would bail them out so they can keep going.
At 1:35 they explain something I was wondering about, why does Tessa Thompson do that weird facial twitch in the scene for no reason? Turns out that take was for an entirely different version of the scene where she had to react to something but they left it in by mistake.
>Okay... here we have our actors standing in a green box giving phoned in performances.
HAHAHA WHO THE FRICK IS THE TARGET AUDIENCE FOR THIS? THIS IS LIKE EXPLAINING A FRICKING PICTURE BOOK HAHAHAHAAHA.
When will you morons realize opening week for capeshit means nothing. It just means all the hardcore capeshit fans went. They would pay to watch Thor sitting on a toilet for 3 hours!
It’s the second weekend that matters. Strange dropped a horrific 67% it’s second week. Compare that to Top Gun which only dropped 29% it’s second weekend.
Guarantee you Thor’s second week drop will be as bad as Strange
>Strange dropped a horrific 67% it’s second week.
That's typical for an average blockbuster. >Compare that to Top Gun which only dropped 29% it’s second weekend.
Top Gun: Maverick had exceptional legs, you can't really compare normal movies to it.
Eternals, there have been several MCU movies after it
2 years ago
Anonymous
None of those are Eternals sequels or even follow ups, tho I guess it remains to be seen if they ever do something with what happened in that movie. Think of Hulk and how they didn't do shit with Hulk or Abomination, and instead made them both side characters in other movies.
How DARE people watch movies for fun? How DARE people stoop so low as to MAKE them? People should only watch four hour long black & white movies about depressed & penniless poetry students who do drugs, have prostitute girlfriends who they can't BELIEVE are prostitutes, pick fights, get beaten up by the guy they tried to fight, walk around the streets of European cities endlessly while reciting bad poems in a monotone narrating voice, & die in the end.
>Avengers comes out, makes money hand over fist >capeshit is so cringe, this shit is dead in the water >Age of Ultron comes out, makes money hand over fist >oh no no here comes the capeshit fatigue, it's over >Civil War, hand over fist >CAPESHIT FATIGUE! YOU'RE BORED! YOU WANNA WATCH THE SOPRANOS! >Infinity War, hand over fist >C-C-CAPE F-F-ATIGUEUGGGGHHH, AUDIENCES WON'T KEEP SHOWING UP *COUGH* *WHEEZE* >Endgame >Spider-Man 3 >Multiverse of Madness >What If >Exploring the Multiverse >Secret Wars
when are you frickin' contrarians gonna accept that capeshit fatigue is a cope?
People have money to spare, so they spend
Wait until the rates get higher and the recession starts to take place, this companies will get rekt if they dont step up their game to seek profitability.
Just entered this thread. Why do any of you care if product makes X amount. You don't take home any of that money. Just seems like useless shit flinging.
Marvel dominating the box office is the only thing keeping cinema alive. Top Gun is just a fun blockbuster like Marvel have been doing for 10+ years, nice to see some variety so that it isn't just superheros I guess but it's not wildly different
>Marvel dominating the box office is the only thing keeping cinema alive
Kek >Eternals flopped >Black Widow flopped >Shang Chi flopped >Multiverse of madness underperformed >Love and Thunder underperformed
Meanwhile >Sonic 2 was a huge success >Top Gun exceeded all expectations >Minions exceeded all expectations >Even Elvis exceeded all expectations
>Even Elvis exceeded all expectations
...dude it absolutely bombed. It was a huge tentpole movie that is struggling to break even against it's budget. It's about to get full lost in the busy summer. Dr.Strange is holding above Batman and Jurassic. Which you didn't even mention those 2.
Yeah remember how much they loved Joss Whedon, then Avengers 2 underperformed according to their expectations & they kick him out faster than my mom kicked out my dad after she caught him with the babysitter.
It's just shit cinematography. Someone mentioned that there's a big pan of where the Greek gods live... but they added motion blur to the pan so you couldn't see anything.
Don't get me started on this 80s rock visual style that's apparently all garish colours. I know at least some of these people were alive in the 80s do they not remember what it looked like?
The Fud that all the paid Anti-Marvel antogonizers are putting forth is just astounding. I can't believe you are so laser focused trying to attack the success of this movie.
I just got back from the movie. WAY better than Ragnarok, Ragnarok was incapable of taking itself seriously, even Hela was cracking jokes, at least Gorr didn't and remained a serious threat and creep throughout the movie. Better than Doctor Strange too. I don't see why reviewers are ripping this movie a new butthole, audience's taste must have changed since Ragnarok.
From Box Office Mojo: >While these films are largely critic proof, it appears that audiences share the same disappointment here as they gave it a "B+" CinemaScore, making it one of only four MCU films to fall below the “A” range.
Uh-oh, this doesn't sound good for the legs on this movie
I don't get the hate against this film. Marvel fanboys think it's woke garbage, and troony allies think it's not woke enough (women get jobbed and sidelined at the end, thor speaks up and commands the room numerous times over "king" valkyrie and lady thor, all the kidnapped kids look up to hemsworth and not valkyrie or lady thor, valkyrie doesn't pursue jane because she's a bro to hemsworth, etc). Who is in the wrong?
You for caring about it being *woke" or not. The film has much bigger issues like looking cheap, being inconsistent in tone and worst of all being a comedy that isn't funny
we got btfo
Cruisebros…..
Cruise is gonna beat Black Panther by the end of the month. Thor 4 won't get anywhere close to that.
Thor has no chance of catching up. Doctor Strange opened higher and never reached a billion, and Thor 4 has even worse word of mouth. Tick, tock marvelgays, Tom is coming for Wakanda's ass next.
Dr Strange was a Civil War/Endgame movie that everyone knew was going to have a bunch of crossover heros and also resolve the plot from WandaVision. Thor's just a regular Marvel movie. You'd want to compare it to something like Ragnarok or Captain Marvel.
>Everyone knew it was going to be stinky dogshit, better compare it to the "normal" dogshit
So brave
Holy shit and it’s still got more in the tank. Maverick is such a beast at the box office
It's outgrossed Infinity and and just overtaken Mama Mia in the UK in terms of box office gross
You have no fricking idea how huge Mama Mia was here. It's probably going to end up outgrossing Titanic too.
You under estimate black people. They've been skipping other movies and saving up their money all year to see Black Panther 2, it's gonna break records and be the least bootlegged movie ever.
COPE.
Nah the audience at the cinemas will be mostly white virtue signallers thinking it makes them good people for going
wont hit 1bil just like multiverse of mid, we keep winning cruisebros
thanks for reminding me to pirate that
>Cruisebros…..
TGM has made $1,2 billion so far, Thor won't even make $700
Top Gun Maverick budget: $170 million
Thor Love and Thunder budget: $250 million
The SFX in Thor looks like shit, what the hell did they spend it on ?
But they spent $3 billion on Top Guns marketing, Anon. It's over.
Now lets see Top Gun's marketing budget
Paramount don't have anywhere near the money that Disney does, so it will be much less.
Also Top Gun Maverick lived on great word of mouth, given how little it has dropped in subsequent weekends.
moron
>no argument
>just call someone a moron
seethe marveltroony. tom btfo you
This. I went to see it for the first time yesterday and the theater was packed. Had to sit close to the screen *barf*
It's outpacing Ragnarok by quite a bit and that made $850 million global.
>It's outpacing Ragnarok by quite a bit
lol no it isn't. It's Sunday take is lower than Ragnarok's. The WOM for Ragnarok was great, the WOM for this is mixed at best
Oh wait no. The Saturday take was also lower than Ragnarok's as well
Opening weekend for Ragnarok was only $122 million...
This is also getting a China release!
Frick you're moronic. It opened much bigger on the first day then fell of much harder than Ragnarok to the point that it's daily takes were lower by day 2. You don't understand what "Outpacing" means
Weekends are longer now than when Ragnarok was released.
Not even joking, there's an extra day of "previews" that pumps up the OW BO
They do 3 day totals like they always have. So if the movie opened on Thursday, they don't count sunday. Or they specify it's a 4-day total. They have different categories and qualifiers. It is not all the same.
>So if the movie opened on Thursday, they don't count sunday.
Wrong
prove it, show your work.
How about the fact that the Thursday take was rolled into Friday for Thor and they still included the Sunday take?
Who is? Show the source.
Just go to box office mojo and look for yourself
Why would I use them as a source if they're doing this then? Look at one that actually has Thursday totals. You're smart enough to catch the issue, but too dumb to work around it.
https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Thor-Love-and-Thunder-(2022)#tab=box-office
You even see there that they included the Thursday numbers for the Friday take
>This is also getting a China release!
It has not been confirmed, it's just what Disney hopes as of yet. I guess this is why the lesbian thing was so very toned down compared to what they claimed.
>This is also getting a China release!
no it's not. china has banned all marvel movies.
>40% drop from Friday to Saturday
is that normal for a blockbuster during the summer?
all the critics are ashamed of that turd, it is not a movie for kids.
Friday is including Thursday night previews... so yes.
No. Marvelsisters are coping again. Time for DC chads to shine.
This. Marvelcucks better enjoy this while it lasts because the bloodbath is about to being
>Black Adam
>not a black guy
That woman is more bogged than the blond b***h from the So(y)s. How did they cast her for Babs ?...
>Highest December Holiday Weekend 8pm to 12am Views!
>Most Tweeted Teen Centered Docu-adrama!
>3rd Highest Rated Movie From Disabled Furries since 2018!
Ragnarok opened a bit worse but it was late October, the movie will do 700-800M at best, 450M at worst.
It's not bad
>Friday to Saturday drop off...
The haters are trying to pull out all stops it looks like. It's a BTFO opening weekend so kek what lines of attack can we use they say.
>It's a BTFO opening weekend
A top 12? Not accounting for inflation?
>It's a BTFO opening weekend
That's came in 30mil under initial projections
Source?
lifetime will be around 600 only
Irrelevant. They're not aiming to get strong returns longterm. They're goal is rapid profit.
Because they are putting out a few movies yearly they get their longterm profit from people going to the movies every couple months or subscribing to Disney plus.
Bros.. Did....d.......did we lose?......
The heir to Disney of trans and the current President two kids (one trans, one pansexual) they're never going to walk it back. It's woke forever.
This movie was so bad. It was painful to watch what the Mcu has become. Even multiverse of madness was bad
I agree that this was bad. But I don't agree that multiverse of madness was bad. Multiverse of madness was the best marvel film. That being said, the competition isn't that great.
Not surprised considering it’s the most recent MCU movie with generation 1 characters still in it.
Either cap out around the 900 million mark or 1.2b
>Either cap out around the 900 million mark or 1.2b
It's not going anywhere near a billion. Even the really popular MCU films are front loaded and make over a third of their box office on opening weekend
Marvel solo movies cannot hit $1 billion without China, and Marvel is banned in China apparently. Without China the movie has to have be a huge hit from the 2nd biggest movie market, that's why Top Gun hit $1b
>worse than doctor strange
capeshit is fricking finished
tell me how it goes in next 2 weeks
omeone want to spoil me thor and the 2 credit ending? i dont want to watch it rather watch topgun
>12th biggest mcu opening
Is that even something to be proud of?
Yeah, theres like 50 of these frickin things
Not really, particularly when it open during summer without any direct competition.
I am confused by the comments here
Cinemaphile generally did not like strange2 and thinks it was low quality?
>Cinemaphile generally did not like strange2 and thinks it was low quality?
Yeah the movie being a piece of shit objectively speaking tends to do just that to this board
Can you expand on your objectivity?
compare it to marvel movies you consider far better.
Sam Raimi is just a hack and always has been but at least he used to have a style, Kevin Feige didn't even let him do shit though, so the movie ended up being not just bad but also soulless. Sad story really
>Sam Raimi is just a hack and always has been
>Being this moronic
>Yeah the movie being a piece of shit objectively speaking tends to do just that to this board
You writing that on the board that unironically thinks Zack Snyder is a genius and his Snyderverse shit is actually brilliant?
Raimi tried his best to make it fun but the script was fundamentally terrible. It was barely even a Dr. Strange movie
You consider first strange movie far better executed and more of a strange movie?
The first one was meh but it was still a mostly competent film. This new one was a total mess and fails at the basics of plotting and character development. It was a junk food movie and Thor 4 seems to be the same. Marvel is getting lazier and more low IQ than ever
Strange 1 was a great movie. It had an important lesson as a payoff. The fights in it were inventive and effort were put into them. Strange 2 consisted of people waving their arms around, references to old Raimi movies that took away from the character, and "nothing means anything" multiverse story that has been told roughly 100 times in the past couple years.
Yes, multiverse of Madness seemed like it did the bare minimum for him if you can even call it that.
>Doctor Strange (2016) is a great movie
Where the first Strange movie lacked spectacle, it made up for it in direct plot and character development. It was fairly bog standard and as a result somewhat forgettable, but as an experience was more enjoyable. When I left the movie I felt it was pretty good. Strange 2 had wild ups and downs. There were moments I thought were quite fun, such as zombie Strange as you pictured, and both the stones to cast Wanda as a villain and the visuals used to make her occasionally horrifying. However, there were far more moments when I said "okay what the frick," and the overall plot was frustratingly bad and could be better written by an average 15-year-old.
It's not even that Strange 2 is bad, it's that it is purposely worse than it could be because everything in Phase 4 has to work towards tearing down established heroes to prop up future shitty ones no one wants to see.
Yes.
Cinemaphile hates reddit directors like Taika and Raimi
>Cinemaphile hates reddit directors like Taika
yes
>and Raimi
no
Cinemaphile only hates David Cohen
It was shit because it was clear Disney interfered with it. We didn't get a whole Raimi film; just parts with Disney mandates in it.
its shit
don't expect marvel haters to have any consistency with their opinions or logic, they're at this point all chinese bots
You actually need to have a nice day
Cinemaphile contains a very vocal minority of capeshit detractors.
Capeshit is trash for morons
I like Dr.strange 2. It had some messy moments, but I like it took chances. Rami takes risks and being creative is subjective, mostly I enjoyed it, but won't say it was perfect.
Oh no no no no look at this DOOD
Who wrote that shit? Breitbart? Audiences are loving it
>Audiences are loving it
Proof or shilling
81% on rotten tomatoes
So people hated The Last Jedi too right? It has like 40% on RT
Yes. The audience score for last Jedi reflects the divisive public opinion in it, but the audience score for Thor is very overwhelmingly positive
That's fricking awful you moron. Space Jam 2 has 80%
>Audiences are loving it
lol marveltards would love an aneurism if it had a disney logo on it
Cool, still not watching it
Made the same post twice and still couldn't fixe "strange2"
It's opening weekend is around 75% of dr strange, suggesting a bit over 700 billion total. adjust that up or down on how you think word of mouth will play out.
>700 billion
Top that, Iron Jim
>And Marvel keeps marching on.
can't wait to see the week 2 drop off.
Frontloaded opening weekend with shit drops. Damn this wont have legs at all capeshit is truly ending bros....
>Keeps on marching
Looks like these malnourished soldiers have trench foot
>TWELFTH biggest!!!!
.......yay?
>highest for Taika Cohen!
He did better than his last and only previous MCU film? Oooooooh high bar indeed!
>below doctor strange 2, a movie with one of the biggest second weekend drops in recent years
>already dropping like a sack of shit
OOF!
>only the 3rd time 2 different films topped $100M in consecutive weekends
this is genuinely good news. cinema might actually not be fricked as a medium.
obviously I haven't seen the Thor movie but my money is going to go to movies regardless, the important thing is that normies are still going.
>wins again
>3rd
>12th
that doesn't sound like winning
Cinemaphile is always wrong
>tv says movie will flop
>movie flops
>heh Cinemaphile is wrong again
?
>movie flops
Yeah however will they recover from only making $300 million in their opening weekend
>$250m production budget
Lel
By making less the next time
Does that 300 million put them ahead considering their stock value was cut by 50%?
While I do not think Love and Thunder will fail to turn a profit, I believe that like most Phase 4 movies it points to a gradual decline in profits as more and more leads leave the franchise and those they replace them with are altogether worse, not to mention the decline in writing that peaked some four years ago. I do believe that we will continue to see flagging reviews and profits over the next couple years as interest in the brand fades. Coupled with the lukewarm reception to the Star Wars sequel trilogy, I personally think by 2025 if there is not some radical alteration to course that both series will fade into irrelevance.
But that is just my opinion of course. Could be they crank out something totally shit and it still pulls 1.5bn. Wouldn't be the first time.
>Marvel is cinema
>cinema is dying
At no point did I state or even dimly allude to either of those. I am interested to see how in the world you drew this conclusion.
I'm just explaining what you said
I didn't say at any point either that Marvel is cinema or that cinema is dying. I said that Marvel will likely experience a gradual decline in profits as interest fades both in their Star Wars and Marvel series of movies. You're either a moron or pretending to be a moron, both are equally pathetic in my eyes.
Saying cinema is dying because of the popular movies is dumb.
It's like saying music is dying because of pop music. When in fact music has never been so diverse, had such a large number of creators, and had such limitless accessibility to music from anywhere in the world aswell as access to events and gigs for all genres.
Saying cinema is dying because you are too lazy to scratch below the surface is stupid
Ok Netflix
>points to a gradual decline in profits
Who could have seen this coming?
I suspect "Captain America" 4 is going to be the real wake up call moment for Disney. You can tell deep down they are getting nervous, with how much they have to blast everywhere across MSM and social media that Anthony Mackie is Captain America now seriously guys!
His TV series was poorly received, even when people still got hyped for Marvel TV. No way anyone will give a shit about the movie.
Doesn't help that the director they hired was the guy who also directed this pile of garbage.
It's gonna go the same way the westerns did.
Westerns were dominant for about 30 years. Then people got bored and tastes moved on.
Marvel will go the same way.
No because when Marvel goes away cinema is over
You overestimate their importance
You are moronic, if Marvel dies streaming crap will devour cinema
Cinema will go similar to horses after cars were invented.
It'll go and has been going from the primary provider of Cinema to being a luxury thing for hobbyists and the occasional activity
What would replace cinema
Streaming services. Convenience always wins.
Not for a while maybe but eventually
GOOD. As horses now are only used for races, breeding or actual shows most shitty horses have been weed out (unless you live in a fricking third world shithole), so the only horses that are around are the actually useful, beautiful ones. If the same happens to cinema it will be a blessing. No more shitty movies and instead actual cinematographers will carry an atomized but highly engaged industry.
Yeah I agree. Cinema will be a occasional activity for when there's an especially good movie out. That'll be its corner of the market. And it'll do more showings of classic movies like lotr extended for example.
>if Marvel dies streaming crap will devour cinema
It already made back it's budget
> In b4 "Nooooo, they spent 80 gajillion om marketing because I said they did."
That's a meme
I guess disney gets advertising spots for free?
They own their own channel and streaming platform, so on there, yeah.
They don't actually spend more than the movie costs on marketing. It's usually like 30 million or less.
Thor Love and Thunder is a Disney+ exclusive?
Wow, you're slow. They can put ads on their own platforms for free.
They also just lease ad space at certain locations year round and cycle out their different movies. Sometimes, if a studio doesn't buy the ad space for one they don't have an indefinite hold on they get to just leave their poster up forever, too. There's a billboard on Sunset Blvd that's had an ad for Quiet Place 2 up since March 2020. Do you think the studio is actually paying a monthly fee to keep that up there?
Hell, there's one on Fountain and Crescent that's got an ad for the premiere of Naruto Shippuden still up on it.
Putting ads on your own platform means you aren't getting paid to run someone else's ads so it still costs you money
The Marvel spider man movies had like $200m in marketing, frick off
That's because Spider-Man historically has the highest audience yield (Soider-Man 2 was the highest grossing super hero movie in history for like over a decade) plus it's a joint venture with Marvel & Sony so they both split the budget
>Soider-Man 2 was the highest grossing super hero movie in history for like over a decade
Why are Marvelshills trying to change history?
Spiderman (1 not 2) was the highest grossing superhero movie for only 6 years until The Dark Knight came out.
"Marvel Studios has spent an estimated $200+ million on the marketing budget for Avengers: End Game. $50 million more than they usually spend on their movies."
https://3wavesagency.com/blog/avengers-endgame-marketing-campaign-marvels-most-expensive-ever#:~:text=Marvel%20Studios%20has%20spent%20an,usually%20spend%20on%20their%20movies.
So at most they spent $400 million on Production + marketing. They already made $302 million in the opening weekend, and it's going to run for like another month.
If it makes another $98 million they break even and it's estimated to make at least another $57-$107 million domestic, and then whatever else they get globally. So, it's on track to do just fine.
"Just fine" is kind of a different scenario than "MARVEL WINS AGAIN!"
I don't think so. As long as it isn't a flop it will continue to generate revenue from streaming, rentals, and merchandise and means that when they do a big crossover movie with the characters they'll be likely to generate another huge hit. It would be different if it flopped, especially if it was a huge event movie like Endgame.
And the goalpost moving begins
What did you think Wins Again meant?
Or it ruins their branding because it's lazy.
>They already made $302 million in the opening weekend, and it's going to run for like another month.
No you moron, they don't get all of the box office money, domestically Disney get ~60%, from foreign gross they get ~25-40% depending on country, the rest goes to the theatres.
> spent an estimated $200+ million on the marketing budget for Avengers: End Game
> $50 million more than they usually spend on their movies."
So the default marketing budget is $150 mil.
Film production was $250 mil.
Theatres have made $302 mil so far, out of which Disney gets around 50% in the US, about 35% on average from international
> $143 million domestic
means $71.5 million profit for Disney
> $159 million overseas
means $55.65 million profit for Disney
Total profit in the opening weekend - $127.15 milloin
This film will be at least $80 million loss.
How many such losses can Disney take, even with Hollywood bookkeeping magic?
With this kind of DCuck math even Top Gun flopped
That's why I was asking about the ~~*bookkeeping*~~ tricks.
>DCuck
Grow up
Not true.
>$170 million production budget
>Lets assume the same $150 million marketing budget
>Domestic box office would give just under $300 million in profit after 50/50 split with theaters
>International would be just over $200 million after 35/65 split
So that means Top Gun managed to generate around $180 million in profit.
You don't know how to use the word "profit" correctly
You're a huge moron
It’s budget was 250M
And it made 300 million opening weekend. That's all the money back plus $50 million, which is more than enough to cover the marketing budget.
On some level you have to know that would make every movie ever released a massive failure, and so doesn't make any logical sense that that's how it would work. Someone just meme'd that on here and you idiots latched onto it so you can delude yourselves into thinking that movies that are obviously succeeding are somehow losing money.
That would mean Top Gun also lost $300 million at the box office.
>That's all the money back
Idiot
> "They spent 18 trillion on marketing knowing no movie would ever be able to make that much back." - Source: My Ass.
I'm not even taking marketing into account and you're still an idiot. Think about it
It made $50 million more than it cost to make, Anon.
Idiot
Dilate your butthole.
You still don't get it. You're not thinking. Lightyear cost 200mil in production and made 204mil at the box office. Now excluding any marketing costs has it made it's money back for Disney?
No, because Disney doesn't get 100% of the box office.
Good boy! You figured it out. So what else hasn't made it's production back?
You?
That wasn't me. Disney gets like 98% of the box office profits because they're a monopoly that can threaten to tank any theater it wants by blackballing them from any future releases. That's how they forced Hateful 8 out of every theater that could project it in 70mm and caused Tarantino to spaz out on Howard Stern about it.
Light-year obviously hasn't because it didn't make back marketing, but it would probably break even just talking about production costs.
>Disney gets like 98% of the box office
I know you’re trolling, but anons here need to hear the harsh truth. The meme about studios only getting 50% of the profits (with theaters getting the other 50%) is a complete myth.
Just stop fricking lying, man.
https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2017/11/disney-makes-a-bigger-ask-of-theaters-than-ever-before-with-the-last-jedi/
>WSJ reports Disney has crafted agreements through which it will receive roughly 65 percent of ticket sales, "a new benchmark for a Hollywood studio" according to the report. (Average splits range from 40 percent abroad to 55 percent on average in the US to 60 percent for only the largest hits, WSJ writes.)
Ok, so you're saying every successful movie makes double their production + marketing back at the box office, then? I feel like they always have to account for home movie sales and rental to actually turn the profit and theaters are just for getting a large chunk of it back if that's the case.
Only blockbuster/tenthpole type movies can afford massive marketing.
And post box office streaming deals can be very lucrative, and bluray sales are still making good money, for Marvel stuff though, that's used to prop up D+ subscriptions.
No it's not, it's well documented that overall the studio get 50% of the box office, with Disney being the outlier as they could negotiate (read strongarm) 60% based upon their huge amounts of hit titles.
The theatres can't survive on popcorn sales you fricking dimwit.
250 million is only for the production. You can easily add at least 100 million for marketing, if not more. So that's about 350 million. Theaters take about 50% of the profit from tickets sold. Actors and the people who worked on the movie need to get paid. The rest after that is profit. So with a cost of 350 million they need to make like 600-700 only to break even.
>That's all the money back plus $50 million,
> which is more than enough to cover the marketing budget.
You can’t look at the movie and seriously think it cost 250,000,000 USD. The budget is fake, at least 150,000,000 of that was just for laundering and isn’t really a loss. After actor contracts and the cheap shitty CGI and everything it was maybe 100,000,000.
Nah, Disney do just generally spend insane amounts of money on things. Their animation budgets are also close to double what anyone else spends, even with rival companies using more celebrity voices.
Disney just spent $500m building Guardians of the Galaxy at Epcot. You could build an entire theme park for that much.
Its one part inflation, one part carefully orchestrated embezzlement from the producers and studio heads, one part industry wide brain drain making everything take longer and cost more than it should, and two parts rushed production schedules that exasperate the previous issue five times over. That last point is the real killer, movies used to take 3+ years to make, now they turn them around in half the time.
Effects heavy features used to get over a year in post-production, now they get a few months. What ends up happening is a few weeks out from release nothing is done and the studio ends up subcontracting out tons of remaining CGI work to a hundred different third world sweatshop effects houses. The end result being god awful CGI that costs astronomically more than if they had taken the time to do it in house with component people.
It's pretty interesting to read stories from VFX house workers about Marvel movies.
https://www.reddit.com/r/vfx/comments/um7g6f/i_am_quite_frankly_sick_and_tired_of_working_on/
HAHAHAH
At least $700m to break even
>Already dropping hard internationally
>Word of mouth is terrible
$800m max
I’m calling 740M final
gotta love the moving goal-posts where being 3rd biggest opening weekend of the year and 12th biggest MCU opening are being heralded when the expectations before were biggest movie of the year.
The ongoing pandemic doesn’t really help box offices. In a regular year this would be 1
>Ongoing pandemic
Frick off lmao there aren't even restrictions anymore
??? There is another variant that’s eeven more contaigeous and yes there still are restrictions. Even if there were non there would still be hestitancy to do normal things because of a new variant
HAHAHAHAH
What about top gun? That’s doing fine
Because it appeals to conservatives and they don’t care about COVID, whereas most mcu fans are probably a little more progressive and less likely to risk going to a theater
Wow they're so rich in theoretical dollars
>new variant
whats this one now, the babysharkirino virus? you idiots are the reason theres "restrictions"...
Where the frick do you live, where I live you aren't even required to wear a mask anymore at the hospital or doctors clinic
one of the criticisms of this movie is that its underwritten apparently? it seems on par with most of these marvel movies; i dont see what about this in particular is underbaked
I've been seeing a lot of reviews saying it should've been longer to give scenes room to breathe. As it is, it's already shorter than Ragnarok's runtime.
Mark Kermode sums up its faults pretty well (he hated it)
>The whole thing looked like it would probably improve from motion smoothing.
Kek
Why would I watch a review of someone so low IQ they get filtered by Taikashit?
The guy with him is such a homosexual
>What did you laugh out loud at?
>I don't remember...I JUST DID OK!
B-b-but Cinemaphile and all my conservative buddies told me it would flop!!!
>the 12th highest
>highest opening for literal who director
>the 3rd time 2 different films
hahaha holy shit the gymnastics on display
Mavel wins again baybee.
Who is watching this shit? I haven't seen a Marvel movie in a theatre since 2013
>the 3rd biggest opening in a year with no movies
uhh cool I guess?
>MARVEL WINS AGAINNNNN!!!!!
>by coming in 3rd
>no movies
what? there have been quite a few movies.
Has there been any blockbusters? Feels like only just recently, even tho it's July already, with Jurassic Park and Top Gun.
There's been 4 other blockbusters so far this year. Though Lightyear was supposed to be a blockbuster but it tanked horribly
This.
>67th highest opening on a day that comes after a day where the number multiplied by 3 = 9
>no movies
the summer is filled with movies so far i've gone to the kinoplex with friends almost every week since top gun came out
That's way under projections and it was making less than The Batman by Saturday
This. Marvel projected a huge win, but it’ll barely get to 900 mil (very generous). Most of you are too moronic to comprehend, but you have to understand: Marvel’s ascent was gradual and their fall will be gradual. MCU isn’t going to crash overnight.
When Marvel dies cinema will die
That's pretty fricking skimpy for a MARVEL movie, isn't it?
no
Thanks
I really felt like you could've switched Mr. and Ms. Thor with any marvel heroes and the movie would be the same.
It won't even beat The Batman
Domestically? Probably not. Thor was making less by day 2
Who the frick is still seeing this shit? There's like 40 Marvel movies plus the TV shows
I would watch other stuff if other studios made good fun movies like Marvel, took 10 years for Cruise to make a Marvel tier movie like Top Gun and that's just a one off
>12th biggest opening of the MCU
That's some cope i've rarely seen. What a gaygit
B-B-BUT people told me here go woke go broke..... What happened....
Their stock value dropped 50%
The entire market is bleeding imbecile
By 50%? Maybe companies should stop pushing propaganda over profits.
it's the post-covid flight of capital from tech stocks.
Disney isn't a tech company.
They're an entertainment company. When people focus on paying the bills or building up a savings buffer, people go to the cinema less and don't spend $4000 on a trip to Disneyworld.
They also don't pay to see movies that are terrible and full of gay things.
Why do people act like stocks matter, even when they drop the people making these products don’t truly suffer. Some irrelevant morons and investors temporarily feel a minor squeeze. The stock market is literally made up, it’s not fricking real, they get bailed out if they’re in real trouble, our money isn’t real, our economy isn’t real, it’s backed by nothing. This means nothing. How are people still this fricking deluded it’s the same rich homosexuals on top that have been there literally since like 1965, they’re 100 years old and they are pure evil, they and their spawn slowly taking their place, you aren’t part of it, it doesn’t matter, the only thing that truly matters is narrative. Even if they went full woke broke, the government would bail them out so they can keep going.
This is gonna drop hard once all the onion boys have seen it.
It's already dropping hard
>Tops all in a weekend when it's the only thing opening
??? Is this guy moronic ?
not like this chud bros
Opening 30mil under initial projections isn't good anon. It's going to drop like a rock
S-Sure this won't make back its money and more! My uncle at Nintendo told me it need 2 Morbillion to break even QwQ
The Disney label doesn't mean shit anymore and soon the Marvel label won't either.
It's insane how half-assed this movie was, they even admit it themselves.
Don't they frick each other? Isn't this kind of inappropriate?
>Don't they frick each other?
yes, that's why got many roles, she can't act and she is ugly, why would anyone hire her?
At 1:35 they explain something I was wondering about, why does Tessa Thompson do that weird facial twitch in the scene for no reason? Turns out that take was for an entirely different version of the scene where she had to react to something but they left it in by mistake.
>Okay... here we have our actors standing in a green box giving phoned in performances.
HAHAHA WHO THE FRICK IS THE TARGET AUDIENCE FOR THIS? THIS IS LIKE EXPLAINING A FRICKING PICTURE BOOK HAHAHAHAAHA.
They're probably obligated to make behind the scenes featurettes for advertising purposes but movies are so lazy now it's not worth doing one.
It works the same as pop music.
It's simple, easy to consume, shallow and therefore has a wide appeal.
Taika has a massive ego, none of the other mcu directors are doing all these press circuits and behind the scenes like they're some big celebrity.
When will you morons realize opening week for capeshit means nothing. It just means all the hardcore capeshit fans went. They would pay to watch Thor sitting on a toilet for 3 hours!
It’s the second weekend that matters. Strange dropped a horrific 67% it’s second week. Compare that to Top Gun which only dropped 29% it’s second weekend.
Guarantee you Thor’s second week drop will be as bad as Strange
>Strange dropped a horrific 67% it’s second week.
That's typical for an average blockbuster.
>Compare that to Top Gun which only dropped 29% it’s second weekend.
Top Gun: Maverick had exceptional legs, you can't really compare normal movies to it.
I knew you gays would act like you never said it would make a billion
>act like
Keep seething DCuck
$143m is terrible
The film has a $250m budget and probably another $100m in marketing. It likely needs to make over $700m at the box office just to break even.
I'm so tired. It doesn't even matter if these movies are good or not anymore, they will always make a profit.
I just want capeshit to stop being relevant.
They make profit because they are good
how many booster shots have you had
Black Widow and Eternals flopped, losing money.
Shang Chi just about broke even.
But Cinemaphile told me they didn't NEED to make a profit and The Batman was a flop.
Why are DCucks so delusional?
>muh dccuks
Why are you so obsessed? Are you gonna mention Snyder next?
Black Widow released on Disney+ for 20 bucks a pop. That made money. Eternals flopped though
Even Eternals broke even
Not after marketing costs
2x the budget hasn't been break even for a long time now. When was the last time you saw a film barely scrape past double it's budget get a sequel?
Eternals, there have been several MCU movies after it
None of those are Eternals sequels or even follow ups, tho I guess it remains to be seen if they ever do something with what happened in that movie. Think of Hulk and how they didn't do shit with Hulk or Abomination, and instead made them both side characters in other movies.
Yes, yes, hear, hear!
How DARE people watch movies for fun? How DARE people stoop so low as to MAKE them? People should only watch four hour long black & white movies about depressed & penniless poetry students who do drugs, have prostitute girlfriends who they can't BELIEVE are prostitutes, pick fights, get beaten up by the guy they tried to fight, walk around the streets of European cities endlessly while reciting bad poems in a monotone narrating voice, & die in the end.
Bleak
>behind Jurassic World Dominion
>marvel movie doesn't break even
>shills call it a success
>Marvel movie doesn't break even opening weekened
>Reddit starts popping champagne thinking they btfod the biggest corporation on the planet
>they btfod the biggest corporation on the planet
That sure as shit isn't Disney
tell that to Cinemaphile
>Avengers comes out, makes money hand over fist
>capeshit is so cringe, this shit is dead in the water
>Age of Ultron comes out, makes money hand over fist
>oh no no here comes the capeshit fatigue, it's over
>Civil War, hand over fist
>CAPESHIT FATIGUE! YOU'RE BORED! YOU WANNA WATCH THE SOPRANOS!
>Infinity War, hand over fist
>C-C-CAPE F-F-ATIGUEUGGGGHHH, AUDIENCES WON'T KEEP SHOWING UP *COUGH* *WHEEZE*
>Endgame
>Spider-Man 3
>Multiverse of Madness
>What If
>Exploring the Multiverse
>Secret Wars
when are you frickin' contrarians gonna accept that capeshit fatigue is a cope?
Eternals?
that's not fair. lol
the Eternals just suck, they're like the Inhumans. they're not interesting, that movie was never going to do well.
There are an unlimited supply of goyslop consumers in the USA. This is already known.
damn, that's a fresh new cope. did you just pick that up from the dry cleaners?
People have money to spare, so they spend
Wait until the rates get higher and the recession starts to take place, this companies will get rekt if they dont step up their game to seek profitability.
Dabbin’ on your capeshit
Listen the søyjaks seethe
Yidsney under tension
Beggin' you to buy tickets and go
Highway to the capeflop zone
Ride into the caepeflop zone
top gun is the same fricking military goy corporate film as marvel what the frick are you guys doing
SO WHAT THE FRICK WAS THOR ABOUT
WHERE ARE THE ENDING CREDITS
Now adjust for inflation, discount the production cost and compare to releases of this year and also releases of same month other years.
Just entered this thread. Why do any of you care if product makes X amount. You don't take home any of that money. Just seems like useless shit flinging.
makes them feel like they're part of something. lot of lost, lonely posters on this website. the crabs in a bucket mentality is very real.
Because we're a TV board that enjoys film. Disney and Marvel dominating the box office for so long has been a cancer on cinema.
Top Gun Maverick is proof that people are crying out for "old fashioned" blockbusters that aren't Star Wars and Marvel.
Marvel dominating the box office is the only thing keeping cinema alive. Top Gun is just a fun blockbuster like Marvel have been doing for 10+ years, nice to see some variety so that it isn't just superheros I guess but it's not wildly different
>Marvel dominating the box office is the only thing keeping cinema alive
I'd rather let it die.
>Marvel dominating the box office is the only thing keeping cinema alive
Kek
>Eternals flopped
>Black Widow flopped
>Shang Chi flopped
>Multiverse of madness underperformed
>Love and Thunder underperformed
Meanwhile
>Sonic 2 was a huge success
>Top Gun exceeded all expectations
>Minions exceeded all expectations
>Even Elvis exceeded all expectations
>Even Elvis exceeded all expectations
...dude it absolutely bombed. It was a huge tentpole movie that is struggling to break even against it's budget. It's about to get full lost in the busy summer. Dr.Strange is holding above Batman and Jurassic. Which you didn't even mention those 2.
A agree but top gun isn't that. Top gun is of the "exploiting peoples nostalgia" vein
>doing better than Ragnarok without China or Russia
>doing better than Batman
>filtering redditors left and right
better than Batman
On day one. It's already making less
No, still the third best opening weekend of the pandemic. Right behind No Way Home and Doctor Strange. Batman isn't even in the equation
Probably got terrible legs though. Word of mouth is pretty shitty for it.
nobody is making you watch and talk about the movies homosexual
Your reading comprehension is so bad, holy shit.
>No
Yes
>Batman Saturday 43.2mil
>Thor Saturday 42.1mil
that's the same amount of money
>The Batman Sunday 34mil
>Thor Sunday 31mil
none of that is impressive
Has this movie opened to 300 million? That's confirmed or wishful thinking?
>Already making less than Ragnarok daily
>Won't have China or Russia
Oh no no no Thorbros it might not even make $800m
On pace for a billi. MCU chads, I'd say we're back, but we never left.
>On pace for a billi.
It really isn't
MARTIN SCORSESE'S GONNA FREAK!
The critics are really mad too huh that this movie is doing so well and the audience isn't buying their attempts to sabotage it!
>$250m budget
Hollywood runs the show. all numbers are fake
It's insane how bad this movie looks, even ignoring the CGI the production design is so garish and ugly.
I can't wait to see how bad Taika Waititi's Star Wars movie looks
I don't think it's going to get made. Marvel has removed directors for less
Sorry "Star Wars"
Why has he done something?
Yeah remember how much they loved Joss Whedon, then Avengers 2 underperformed according to their expectations & they kick him out faster than my mom kicked out my dad after she caught him with the babysitter.
It's just shit cinematography. Someone mentioned that there's a big pan of where the Greek gods live... but they added motion blur to the pan so you couldn't see anything.
Don't get me started on this 80s rock visual style that's apparently all garish colours. I know at least some of these people were alive in the 80s do they not remember what it looked like?
The Fud that all the paid Anti-Marvel antogonizers are putting forth is just astounding. I can't believe you are so laser focused trying to attack the success of this movie.
I just got back from the movie. WAY better than Ragnarok, Ragnarok was incapable of taking itself seriously, even Hela was cracking jokes, at least Gorr didn't and remained a serious threat and creep throughout the movie. Better than Doctor Strange too. I don't see why reviewers are ripping this movie a new butthole, audience's taste must have changed since Ragnarok.
Who the frick is still watching this shit? Its been 15 years of nonstop capeshit how could any person stomach sitting through another one of these
They are usually the only good fun movies coming out, took a decade for Marvel movie from another studio like Top Gun to come out
Who watches this shit. Are people really that bored
this movie sucked but at least Whor died in the end.
From Box Office Mojo:
>While these films are largely critic proof, it appears that audiences share the same disappointment here as they gave it a "B+" CinemaScore, making it one of only four MCU films to fall below the “A” range.
Uh-oh, this doesn't sound good for the legs on this movie
I don't get the hate against this film. Marvel fanboys think it's woke garbage, and troony allies think it's not woke enough (women get jobbed and sidelined at the end, thor speaks up and commands the room numerous times over "king" valkyrie and lady thor, all the kidnapped kids look up to hemsworth and not valkyrie or lady thor, valkyrie doesn't pursue jane because she's a bro to hemsworth, etc). Who is in the wrong?
You for caring about it being *woke" or not. The film has much bigger issues like looking cheap, being inconsistent in tone and worst of all being a comedy that isn't funny