Anons... I'm just confused at this point. About all of it. I feel like how I did after I watched Rise of Skywalker for the first time. Not great, and my mind is spinning.
But I guess the main take away is that Heaven is bad and twisted? It's just... so boring. What's even the point of the hotel anymore?
How has no one from hell entered Heaven yet? You cannot tell me that Sir Pentious was the first to selflessly sacrifice himself... Just... HUH?
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there's how many fricking threads for this show already? use on of those you wienersucker
Go back
No, YOU go back you brainless homosexual
>waah everything needs a general like my reddit boards
>WAHHHH I NEED A VERY SPECIAL THREAD OF MY OWN GIVE ME ATTENTION NOW NOW NOW NOW NOWWWWW
Again, leave and preferably have a nice day
Hold your horses. It's been a Cinemaphile hype since the very first pilot.
>But I guess the main take away is that Heaven is bad and twisted?
How do you have such poor media literacy that you see a person turning good going to heaven and think "This means heaven is bad"?
As in, those who are currently running Heaven are corrupt.
>Adam gets to act like a sinner with no repercussions other than all the other angels in the high court thinking he's an annoying tard.
>Heaven is hiding the fact that humanity is descending from Lucifer instead of Adam.
>Lilith gets to stay in Heaven as part of a "deal".
>Sera is hiding lots of things.
>Angels are left ignorant about everything on purpose.
I should clarify further about "Heaven Bad":
Also, reactions in picrel actually made this all worth it to me, it was so fricking funny
Almost all worth it*, my bad
Honestly, now that I'm letting this stew more, I may take it back that the conclusion is boring... rather it's just very rushed. But all of the points I have brought up are making me think more and more of what's going on. Hope season 2 handles some of these mysteries well otherwise I will be disappointed.
Just to be clear on something. These things are not actual angels and the demons are not actual demons since everything points out that the actual lore accurate angels are not in there.
So what are they? Aliens? Beings from other dimensions or planes of existance?
They literally showed lore accurate angels in multiple places in Heaven in Episode 6.
>What are they
Seraphim. They're Seraphim, at least the ones in this pic:
Adam mentions Virtues in Episode 1.
There is symbolism reminiscent of the Ophanim everywhere.
If sinners can become better people then obviously the reverse is true virtuous people can become worse people. That's the fricking point. It doesn't mean "Heaven bad".
>Angels are left ignorant about everything on purpose.
If anything this proves heaven is good. Sera knew the people of heaven were virtuous and kind and would never have approved of it.
>Sera realizing she condemned millions of souls to oblivion when redemption actually was a possibility all along.
Sera doesn't count as one of "the people of heaven"? Is she above being virtuous and kind?
is hiding the fact that humanity is descending from Lucifer instead of Adam.
If Viv is doing the serpent seed shit then only half of humanity, the children of Cain, are descended from Lucifer. The children of Seth would be from Adam.
Its easy to blame everything on the devil when bad shit happens and we do evil.
Nah, Cain was Adam's. They are all his and they are all capable of good and evil.
>Heaven is hiding the fact that humanity is descending from Lucifer instead of Adam.
Cringe
>But I guess the main take away is that Heaven is bad and twisted?
It's not, Angels just have an automatic disdain for Demons and we kept seeing that because the main cast are Demons.
the whole thing makes no sense since viv decided turning this into a generic war of heaven vs hell instead of a simple comedy for adults
Yeah... I'm now starting to feel more positive about the finale but in the end, I just have so many questions and barely any answers. The show did not go in the direction I was expecting... and it's just... meh.
>Pentious goes to heaven and has a redemption arc
>Adam gets reborn in hell and has a redemption
Make it happen you El Salvadoran slampig
>But I guess the main take away is that Heaven is bad and twisted?
The show has never shown this and no-one in the show has said this.
>so boring. What's even the point of the hotel anymore?
To try to get people into heaven as Pentious literally just proved you can in Episode 8
>How has no one from hell entered Heaven yet? You cannot tell me that Sir Pentious was the first to selflessly sacrifice himself... Just... HUH?
idk maybe he is, Or maybe they'll actually explain that later.
It's just a bad show anon. It wasn't very good to begin with. You wasted your time getting invested. Let me end it for you now.
>Let me end it foAAACK
I guess we can hope Adam comes back in season 2 as a sinner. Sad that he wont be with Lute if that happens.
>But I guess the main take away is that Heaven is bad and twisted? It's just... so boring. What's even the point of the hotel anymore?
No, that's not the main take-away. Heaven seems really, really nice, and besides Adam/Exorcists (the latter whose origins we have not been told), everyone is doing their best, even Sera, though her story seems to be going "the road to Hell is paved with good intentions".
We were shown in Helluva Boss that cherubs CAN go to Hell for their behavior, though, by killing humans, but this may not actually apply to HH. And at any rate, Adam/Exorcists were killing Sinners, not Hellborn, and thus were not killing the "innocent".
Adam trying to kill Charlie, and Lute trying to kill Vaggie, might actually have condemned them if successful. That would have been interesting to see, given that they aren't actually Sinners. However, I am not 100% on board with that theory, either.
At any rate, Heaven is a nice place, it's just that no one knows how someone gets into Heaven.
SOME INDIVIDUALS, whether it be Lute and Lilith, or Lute and Eve posing as Lilith, seem "hellbent" on creating a war between Heaven and Hell again. We don't know all of their motivations, we just know someone has been fearmongering Sera enough for her to agree to the exterminations.
Lucifer also agreed to the exterminations, remember. He abandoned his people, because he didn't believe Sinners to be worthy of his help. But he did at least exclude Hellborn from the exterminations. It is clear, however, that Sera nor Emily nor any of the seraphim would have allowed similar actions against the souls in Heaven, who they are trying their best to protect.
Meanwhile, Lucifer let it all go to shit.
Heaven is definitely still a better place than Hell, and the people there are mostly better, too.
But not EVERYONE is Heaven is good, just like not EVERYONE in Hell is evil.
>We were shown in Helluva Boss that cherubs CAN go to Hell for their behavior
Important distinction. The Cherubs didn't die or actually get cast into Hell or whatever from what I recall, they just got banned from returning to heaven. It's more likely they are still flying around the human world.
True, I think technically they are Fallen, like Lucifer.
Cherubs didmt go to Hell, they were just forbidden from returning to Heaven leaving them stranted on Earth.
What happened to the eggs?
>You cannot tell me that Sir Pentious was the first to selflessly sacrifice himself
he was what fricking part of hell is full of bad guys did you not understand?
>You cannot tell me that Sir Pentious was the first to selflessly sacrifice himself...
I mean, it's Hell, is it unlikely? It's the sum of his sacrifice and his previous resolve to be good.
The real reason:
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>after I watched Rise of Skywalker for the first time.
You watched that piece of shit more than once?!
It's hell. Where everyone up untim that point assumes they're damned for eternity. I can absolutely believe he's the first one to die in a truly selfless manner.
he was also the 1st to die that way after going thru hazbin hotel
the hotel works, folks
It seems like the respawn mechanism also triggers a rejudgement or an appeal to whatever judges souls.
Sinners are very durable and if they torn apart they pull themselves back together. But if their bodies are obliterated it seem it triggers the respawn mechanism. Since it requires a long time to qualify for Redemption and Obliteration is a very rare event, its no wonder Redemption never happened before.