Kinda surprised Disney investors aren't tearing their execs limb from limb at this point
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Seeing this soulless pit of a company implode brings me joy.
>Implode
Lol you're hilarious bro
Not implosion: erosion, and probably an inevitable one because the sum of factors is compounded by the fact that Disney and its three major movie products-- animation, SW and capeshit-- are increasingly seen worldwide as uncool, lecturing and boring.
bruh they lost a billion last year
Touchstone saved it in the '80s. Lmao if Onlyfans saves it this time.
Not just Disney, all Hollywood is on the verge of major reorganization. Time to come crawling back to indie filmmakers
Film is a dying 20th century medium anyway
Don't say things like that man 🙁
Same. First time I’ve laughed in months
they own too much shit to die. children will keep buying star wars and marvel merch forever
>children will keep buying star wars merch
Children have stopped buying star wars anything. Star Wars merchandise is purchased almost exclusively by søy millennial consumerists.
You have zero perspective. How long has Disney existed? How long has it been coasting off of its legacy rather than producing classics? How long had this country existed? How long has humanity? Nothing is forever. Especially not Disney.
Even israelites like Harlan Ellison hated Disney and how it was fricking over America back in the 70's. We need to make sure we bury the rat.
all the more fixed costs that could drown you if you have several bad years and failures in a row
the theme parks and toys are such strong businesses, the company can never truly fail.
They're businesses that are currently in the process of dying.
Same energy as the people in 2020 insistent that Disney was too strong to be affected by COVID
Toys are dying for kids. They play fortnight and watch YouTube. Force awakens killed toys r us. The only strong toy markets are for babies and adults.
yeah
Same, Walt would probably be laughing with us too after how much they’ve bastardized his creation.
Walt strikes me as humorless, coupled with all his ideals and legacy he'd be fricking livid at what's happening to his company. It's one thing to be ruthless to the point of scruplessness....but to also fail while doing so.
Disney could lose 100 million every day for the rest of our lives and it would continue to exist
Why would you think that?
Keep telling yourself that mouseBlack person, we’re quickly getting to the point where we can test that theory
That's an incredibly bold claim. Why would you think that? I don't think that's true at all.
How much money do you think Disney has?
not that i don't enjoy disney being shat on from all sides, but isn't investment meant to be a risk? you're a glorified gambler so suck it the frick up when you lose
you can't hide the accounting numbers. That's what they allege.
casinos obfuscate the real chances of winning in their games as well
Casinos rig their games. Those automatic card shufflers can deal specific cards if the casino employees want you to lose.
exactly
i guess investing and stock trade is a israelite trade though so there need to be protections in place for them
What does this have to do with hiding accounting information? If I invest in a company based on its balance sheet and income statement and both of those documents were falsified that is fraud and not only am I entitled to my investment returned but the company should face punitive damages. It’s as shrimple as that
I think this is why they aren’t budging on the strikers demands. In order to pay what they are asking, they would have to release the real streaming numbers. If they do that the house of cards falls.
>I think this is why they aren’t budging on the strikers demands. In order to pay what they are asking, they would have to release the real streaming numbers. If they do that the house of cards falls.
Well they want to hide streaming numbers for 2 reasons:
Don't want to pay residuals on any successes
Don't want to have shareholders see their expensive failures
too bad they have 2 separate lawsuits going that specifically mention those numbers
It's gambling but this is like if the dealer doesn't let you see your cards but promises you've got a straight flush when you don't. Their stock is trading at what it was in 2014, it's actually kind of shocking how badly it's performing.
the stock is the hand though
you can buy or sell at the strength of your hand but these guys are being promised by the dealer that their next hand will be a straight flush, when any idiot knows the dealer works for the house
Isnt that what shkreli went to jail for?
Not when they lie about income statements.
It's basically fraud.
Nooooo investment is a critical part of the economy that’s why you have to hand over your money to bail them out whenever their personal profits dip a bit. Why do you hate the economy????
you are fricking moronic. yes investment has risks but you make decisions based on information the company releases. if you falsify numbers in your reports and people invested based on the falsified numbers then it's just fraud you fricking dumb Black person.
Fraud is still a risk. Just because it's illegal doesn't mean it ain't going to happen. Only an idiot and fool like yourself would ignore risks just because they're illegal.
>akshually your the moron
Imagine you gambled $50 and ended up making back a ticket you're told is for $40, but when you go to the counter to redeem it you find out it's only worth $14 and the person who wrote it for $40 lied so you wouldn't get upset with them. That's what Disney did.
Even in places where gambling is legal, you're not allowed to openly cheat your customers. That's why this is a case in the first place. You're allowed to invest and reap the rewards or losses from that investment, but the people interested with your money when you invest have to play by certain established rules.
Fraud is fraud
No company, and especially publicly traded companies, can obfuscate numbers in order to trick investors into thinking that things are going better than they actually are. That's called fraud
holy fricking moron
The board, CEO and other top brass are answerable to the stock holders.
What you have here is Enron level malfeasance. People will be going to jail, the Sarbanes-Oxley Act was created as a result of that and has done a reasonable job of making these people check their BS at the door.
Hollywood in general has gotten away with some pretty ridiculous creative accounting for generations, but this is over the top lunacy.
>you're a glorified gambler so suck it the frick up when you lose
Losing fair and square is only for the goyim.
They don't have to worry about it one bit. Larry's got them covered. "Money" doesn't matter when you're tied in with the Fourth Branch of Government.
Motherfrickers name is literally “Fink” and they trust him.
Remember that "Larry's" money actually belongs to retirees and investment firms and if these entities decide that Larry isn't handling their money effectively there's nothing he can do if they decide to pull out and choose someone else to manage their funds.
>Remember that "Larry's" money actually belongs to retirees and investment firms and if these entities decide that Larry isn't handling their money effectively there's nothing he can do if they decide to pull out and choose someone else to manage their funds.
Except order the creation of another trillion Federal Reserve notes and pass them out to his friends.
The firms are in on the scam. The head of Australia's retirement fund union expressly said she would lose retirees money and put successful businesses out of work if they do not comply with their diversity targets.
It's a fricked system. When Blackwiener came close to losing a frick ton of pension funds in the U.K., the British government stepped in and bailed them out. Can't lose a rigged game.
>The head of Australia's retirement fund union expressly said she would lose retirees money and put successful businesses out of work if they do not comply with their diversity targets.
Source?
>some of the only successful media/electronics brick and mortar stores left
>Do good business, have many employees
>"uh, no Chud, I would rather tank the economy than make money"
>HESTA, Cbus, Aware Super, AustralianSuper and Rest Super in particular viewed gender diversity as “being a really fundamental driver of value”, Ms Davidson said.
Our entire global economy is infested with scammers.
That's because these PwC and McKinsey consultants screeching about how there's so much money in """diversity""" and pandering to minorities were hired from American universities which have been taken over by a cult. The rot starts at American universities.
This. What you have to understand is that the money to fund wokenes doesn't come out of their pockets. It comes out of your pocket. They don't take any loss if woke fail.
I'm trying to piece together a timeline for Disney's downfall but I don't understand all the economic stuff. Somehow the company is just as profitable as it was 20 years despite massive growth. No financial progress.
>Buy Pixar, Marvel, LucasFilm, Fox
>Milk franchises from all properties relentlessly
>Dominate the film industry in the 2010s
>Suddenly all your properties decline in quality and popularity at the same time the pandemic hits
>Introduce Disney+, bleeds money every day like all streaming services
>In just a few years go from the top dogs of the industry to the sick man
they spent too much money on the Fox acquisition
Can't black rock the murdoch
It's this combined with trapcard.gif in the deal that requires them to also buy out Comcast's stake in Hulu. Bill's due next year, it's $27B, Disney has maybe $500M liquid and no clear revenue streams to make up the difference. lmao good luck I'll be on the sidelines trying to not die of laughter
aside from the fox blunder
>leaked activist zoom call that ruined Disney's family image in middle america
>being pressured by the same internal activists into the fight over the 'don't say gay' bill, wrecking disney's special privileges in florida
>firing john lassiter over the weakest of all #metoo bullshit, sending both pixar and disney animation into a tailspin
>bringing the mostly neutral marvel studios into the culture war shit that permanently ruined lucasfilm/star wars
>insanely stupid integration of the star wars brand into the disney parks
activist zoom call
pressured by the same internal activists into the fight over the 'don't say gay' bill,
lmao what? Elaborate.
tldr
>a bunch of homosexuals started doing sex-ed for kindergartener Floridians in the public schools during normal class hours which included all the gay shit you can think of
>Florida's legislature introduced a bill to say "no that's dumb stop doing that"
>Disney, at the urging of one of their diversity people, made it an official company position to oppose the bill
>the bill gets passed anyways, Zion Ron signs it in the 20% of the time he's not sucking the Knesset's dicks
>Disney obliterated whatever support they had left from their former target demographic, which is parents of young children who now don't trust them to make anything worth watching
The activist zoom call was another one of their executives that said she wants a bunch of gays and troons in Disney media and will make sure it happens. Not sure what happened with it aside from public outrage
Back in the 60's when Disney World was being built, Walt Disney lobbied the Florida state government to create a special tax district on the land where the park would be built. This allowed the company to collect sales tax from parkgoers that they used to maintain their own infrastructure that otherwise would have been remitted to the state. Walt planned to create a "city of the future" that was more or less self-maintained however he died before it could be finished. The special tax district remained and the company has profited to the tune of hundreds of billions from the tax district in the time since.
Fast forward to 2019, Florida passed a bill that prevented teachers from discussing gender identity bullshit with kids in grade school (crazy I know). Disney's executives stayed neutral at first but came under pressure from its left wing blue haired employees to oppose the bill. They finally caved and publicly criticized Florida's governor, in response he replaced the board of directors for the tax district with his own people who voted to dissolve the tax district meaning Disney could no longer collect tax revenue which put a sizable dent in their income.
Oh shit Lasseters gone? I mean PIxar has already been in decline but thats a nail in the coffin.
Lasseter's been gone since about the start of #metoo, so 2014/2015?
Pixar was in decline but the decline accelerated after he was forced out
He was removed around the time Toy Story 4 was in production, so that was the last Pixar film he had any involvement with, even if it was minimal (even though he's credited with story, the script got 3/4ths rewritten a year after he stepped down)
The following are Pixar films that Lasseter had no involvement with, or had very little involvement with that he wouldn't be credited:
Onward
Soul
Luca
Turning Red
Lightyear
Elemental
>don't say gay
How about "anti-child sodomy" bill? Don't play their word games
Child sodomy is already illegal, pedo
If Iger's only purchases were Pixar and Marvel, he would've been better off.
Lucasfilm was pushing it, because:
>Lucas put Kennedy in charge with the expectation that she'd basically be a go-between between him and Disney, but then she backstabbed him
>Iger demanded a Star Wars movie every year, which caused issues with every movie
>Kennedy didn't seem to know how to handle the movie productions which is why even though Force Awakens made a profit, it and the others still had the same issues and eventually LOST money and damaged the franchise. Rise of Skywalker's actual budget got revealed and it was highly likely they barely did a little more than break even, which is why there's no SW movie since
Iger's other mistake was trying to go political (since his intent was to run for President) and so he ended up hiring politically-minded people who hired other like-minded people who valued political movements over making entertainment. This hivemind goaded Chapek into Disney into making a public stand against Florida, which led to Disney's loss of control of Reedy Creek and the current investigation, plus the leaked Zoom call did massive PR damage that Disney have yet to recover from
But the Fox purchase was the worst idea Iger had because:
>It drained much of Disney's cash reserves
>By buying Fox, he ended up with Fox's stake in Hulu combined with Disney's stake in Hulu
>Disney was on the hook to pay Comcast billions in 2024 to buy out their stake in Hulu, but no sweat, they can keep making blockbusters right?
>COVID happens, shutting off revenue from parks and ESPN and movie theaters for months
>Movies ended up underperforming during the past two years
>2024 is coming up
>plus the leaked Zoom call did massive PR damage that Disney have yet to recover from
Where can I watch that in full? I've only seen some juicy snippets.
You could probably find it on b***hute or something; the full call got shoahed on YouTube for obvious reasons.
>By buying Fox, he ended up with Fox's stake in Hulu combined with Disney's stake in Hulu
>Disney was on the hook to pay Comcast billions in 2024 to buy out their stake in Hulu
Why exactly is this?
Majority stakeholder clause. Basically they're required to buyout Comcast's stake.
Disney, WB, Fox, and Comcast all had a stake in Hulu at one point.
Then Disney bought Fox and became majority shareholder.
in April 2019, WB sold off their stake which was split between Disney and Comcast.
That left Disney and Comcast the only stakeholders left, majority and minority respectively.
In May 2019, Disney and Comcast made a pact.
https://fortune.com/2023/07/15/disney-comcast-hulu-deal-strategy-bob-iger-turnaround-plan/
>On May 14, 2019, the two owners unveiled a “put/call” agreement to resolve Hulu’s “future ownership and governance.” Under the pact, Disney is granted full operating control over Hulu until the end of this year. Starting in January of 2024, Disney can require that Comcast sell its interest to Disney at “fair market value,” and Comcast can force Disney to buy its Hulu shares. The accord gives Hulu a minimum total value of $27.5 billion. So Disney must pay at least one-third of that number, or $9.2 billion, for the Comcast shares.
Because they agreed in 2019 that starting in 2024 Disney can either buy out Comcast or Comcast can force Disney to buy them out, each unilaterally.
https://www.theverge.com/2023/3/10/23633800/disney-comcast-hulu-buyout-streaming-share-agreement
So it's over for Disney unless they manage to shit out $9 Billion from somewhere?
If Comcast decide to frick them over, yes.
Comcast has to. It’s already taken a loan out on those shares. They’re going to need to pay that off and also make a profit, there is no eventuality where they don’t exercise the put.
The rumor is that they are trying to get someone to buy either Disney, or parts of Disney
That's why there were a bunch of articles since Iger returned that suggested that Apple might buy Disney
Or that recent rumor where they may be partially selling stakes in things like ESPN (like the rumor that they're making a deal with Amazon to stream ESPN on Amazon Prime)
>That's why there were a bunch of articles since Iger returned that suggested that Apple might buy Disney
In all likelihood Disney leaked blown out of proportion info as an attempt to draw the attention from other potential buyers which however know better and saw the Apple rumor as bs
The only rumor or speculation that was realistic was Apple being interested in ESPN.
>mah Igor
Yeah, I’m sure man in his 70s can save them.
Disney has the same boomer disease 2/3 of companies have and Congress has.
The boomers never trained and groomed a proper stable of successors, so know they are all 70-80 years old clinging to things they should have retired from decades ago while their mind is already half mush.
In the worst cases they are actively being undermined by thier cheap h1b Indian or Korean replacements they brought in to spit in the faces of whites 20-40 years ago, who now have enough power to milk out these firms till bankruptcy
>Point out that a bunch of articles popped up about Disney looking to be bought by Apple coincided around the time Iger came back
>Somehow you thought this meant supporting Iger
Are you a bot or something
Hoesntly I just wanted to shit on boomers but wanted to link to a post in the thread near mine to make it seem like a conversation to increase the chance of (yous) in a thread well past it’s half way point,
It’s actually going to be more. It’s certain this will go into arbitration as Disney will say it’s worth less and Comcast will say it’s worth more. They’ll probably have to pay north of 10 billion for it
Government bailout incoming
It's more likely that Disney gets separated into different divisions. And the repercussions are systemic and unavoidable for Hollywood.
>If Iger's only purchases were Pixar and Marvel, he would've been better off.
Marvel shouldn't have sold themselves to Disney
They shouldn't, but of the purchases Iger made those were the only two that worked for Disney because they were still make hits even if Pixar was declining under Disney and Marvel slowly had its own issues, but they could've weathered the storm up to Lasseter's ouster and Marvel Phase 4
>Rise of Skywalker's actual budget got revealed and it was highly likely they barely did a little more than break even, which is why there's no SW movie since
"With a budget of $416 million, it is the third most expensive film ever made."
Jesus.
>(since his intent was to run for President)
Why didn't he? He would have made a much better choice than Biden. Did Bloomberg steal the 'billionaire' spot on the Democratic primary stage?
Oh yeah another one I forgot, Iger's push for Disney+, because studios wanted to do their own exclusive streamer
This ended up backfiring on every studio that had their own streamer because of the costs involved in running a streaming service
Streaming is a bubble that is failing. Bring back the video stores, people like video stores
It's time to shut down the Internet.
This would honestly be for the best
>No more easy access to porn
>No more centralized storage of media that can be censored
>People have to go outside of their home to interact again
>Domestic and foreign governments lose their ability to hack into your home network and spy on you
>Men and women have to interact with eachother face to face again and birth rates go up
I'm sure I still won't have sex but other people might so that's good.
>No more easy access to porn
We had easy access to porn before the internet. It was really easy to find boxes of the stuff lying around because people made it a point to make it accessible.
>No more centralized storage of media that can be censored
We go back to daytime television being the nations news source. Cinemaphile, the most free as in freedom of places gets shut down.
>People have to go outside of their home to interact again
It's all shitskins.
>Domestic and foreign governments lose their ability to hack into your home network and spy on you
They won't need to since they just have to go back to controlling daytime television. It becomes impossible to organize ourselves and ~~*they*~~ will just roll out more surveillance since it's so cheap and easy.
>Men and women have to interact with eachother face to face again and birth rates go up
It's all shitskins.
>We had easy access to porn before the internet. It was really easy to find boxes of the stuff lying around because people made it a point to make it accessible.
where the frick did you grow up. i had to stay up til 1am to catch howard stern interview pornstars and girls gone wild commercials to get my rocks off
>We had easy access to porn before the internet. It was really easy to find boxes of the stuff lying around because people made it a point to make it accessible
Frick are you taking about? We found a discarded porn mag in the woods one autumn. Another time some guy left a couple of soft porn VHSs on the train which we took. That’s about all we had in 7 years.
"I can't go outside, there are black people there!"
It would be hysterical if it wasn't so tragic. No wonder our race is dying out.
Also, as a teen before the internet, I had to covertly rip pages out of last month's porno mags that were getting sent back to the publisher to be pulped. It wasn't easy at all, but it taught me how to be furtive.
how do you lose money streaming movies you own?
Would you be surprised to learn that the servers and bandwidth needed aren't exactly free? The more a single customer watches your content, the less money you actually make.
And the high costs of producing all that original content.
maybe they should stop putting all of their new stuff on streaming then. they have a massive catalogue that has been paid for for forty years or more.
true but how many people are subscribing and what is the monthly fee? it costs a hundred million a month for servers? also, people watch too much TV and need to get hobbies and a life.
>Walt's black animator just told Bob to kill himself
Based.
hello art department?
Damn, does he have a habit of posting shit against the company like this in recent years? Or is it really getting to be that bad
When Tangled came out years ago he took the piss out of Disney's "We gotta retitle Princess movies with one word to lure in the boys" strategy with this.
She should have a sniper rifle
All those shit tier marvel movies with empty theaters making 800m?
They totally did buy out the theaters to prop them up didn't they?
Oh frick we could finally find out if Disney really did bought seats for Captain Marvel
Chapek would donthis thing where he'd debut a D+ movie a day early on Disney Channel, so the cost for the movie was written as spent on Disney Channel content, not D+ content, making D+ look more profitable on paper.
lel
>mah Chapek fall guy.
chapek was in honest dealer who was obviously falling for the advice of people hired and managed by igor for a decade before he came in the big job.
I don’t he did more that rubber stamp a memo people three posts down from him that made the decision and two posts down from him barely considered a problem and told him this made sense. You think CEOs of trillion dollar companies make accounting journal booking rule calls?
I’m waiting to buy the dip. Wokeshit is a fad, once they scrap wokeism they’ll start printing money again and the stock will 10x
>Wokeshit is a fad
Wokeshit will exist as long as israelites have a massive stake in the entertainment and education systems.
At a minimum they're having to dial it back
https://nypost.com/2023/07/03/esg-is-on-its-way-out-now-that-investors-have-been-forced-to-wise-up/
>BlackRock CEO Larry Fink announced he’d no longer be using the term “ESG.”
That just means they're rebranding that garbage. They're not dropping it.
If it was going well, they wouldn't have had to rebrand
It's going well in the sense they're exterminating white people which is their goal.
Yeah, and the Rockefellers said they were going get out of oil not long ago too. Lol
two weeks
wokeshit is the entire geopolitical stance of the usa and nato, it was never about cartoons and stocks
>NATO is le.bad
Stfu zigger.
Two more weeks before zelinskyyyyyyyy captures moscow bros
>rat inc
>investor pant shitting scheme
We love to see it
Their stock has hit a nine year low.
>When it turns out "D+" isn't the abbreviation for your streaming platform, but it is instead your credit-score...
i'm too stupid for this pun
It's not a pun, the joke is their credit score is so low that it's ranked D+
Could be the beginning of the end for Disney as we know it
How do you fail at streaming Disney cartoons?
It should be money for old rope
They literally put "trigger warnings" about """outdated cultural attitudes""" and shit on their old ones, and all their new ones are filled with purple-haired trannies and lesbians, lol.
It's like a case-study in how woke leftist dogma can outright sabotage even the most guaranteed avenues of profit.
I watched some old daffy duck cartoon where he goes to brazil and mexico and it had a trigger warning on d+. It didn’t even have anything offensive. I was actually disappointed
Chapek the demonic little mole rat would be doing twice as worse. At least Bob has his animal charisma.
I'm wondering if these "investors" aren't just old money drooling morons.
>Imagine youre a company and think streaming is the way to go
>You are happy bc you'll have to do the bare and cut all the extras that came with the dvds for max returns
>Shit implodes
Was any studio smart enough to just continue on licensing with Netflix or Amazon instead of rolling their own?
Sony
>sony making smart decisions
sounds weird
The thing is, starting your own streaming service is icredbly cheap if you already have a studio library IP.
They all just rent out the same Amazon AWS servers to stream off anyways.
All you need is a few programmers to make the front end interface and a billing and compliant department and just upload you 50 years of movies to the cloud,
It also acts as a bidding hedge for any new content you would be making anyways, if Netflix lowballs you you can threaten to just add it to your own platform
Apparently not, if they're all getting in financial trouble now.
What I don't understand is Disney has HULU
They didn't need to make Disney+
Hulu is US-only for some immensely gay reason. I can get Disney+ in the UK but not Hulu.
That's because in the UK (and most other countries IIRC) they actually just folded the entire Hulu catalogue into standard Disney+, which is why they've got all these older Fox films and shows on there beyond Disney's mainline or original streaming stuff
Which means that pretty much every country EXCEPT Disney's home country gets a way better deal with D+. It's really odd.
>starting your own streaming service is icredbly cheap
Streaming is the opposite of profitable, it is a money pit that Netflix started in the hopes of server costs one day being low enough to make the whole venture profitable. People seem to think servers grow on trees, there's a reason even youtube have started capping bitrates.
Servers have not come down significantly enough in cost, and internet use has exploded over the past 20 years thanks to third worlders and smartphones.
Server costs aren't that bad, it's the developer bloat that kills companies. You start with a few competent ones building things and a few years down the road there are 50 or more useless sacks of shit maintaining it or making things worse.
>cloud services
>cheap video streaming
Pick one and only one. Literally the only shot a company has at making video streaming profitable is running their own data centers, and that’s even a stretch.
>t. literally a cloud architect
The biggest money pit is all the exclusive content they produce for the streaming sites. That's the reason Max is doing ok having less subscribers than Netflix or D+, the only Max originals they produce are super cheap reality shows.
sony had a videoservice, but not flatrare streaming. i think they folded that recently though. it was playstation video
Pretty interesting seeing progressives cumming their pants over Disney shit when megacorps are their favorite scapegoat. Completely different compared to 20 years ago.
They justify it because if billionaires are going to exist they might as well fund white genocide which is all they really care about.
progressive ideology is a mess of contradictions
they always say other leftists aren't on the left and when you ask that what is left, they basically ignore the social/cultural aspect and it's all about (anti-)capitalism
then they champion these billion dollar corporations (that they claim are capitalist) because they promote left-wing social issues, but it doesn't make them left-wing though, nor do the overwhelming political donations to left-wing parties/causes or the overwhelming party affiliation/voting records
they do hate those companies for being rich though, just not enough for them to lose money and stop pushing the agenda
Tldr: israeli schizophrenia
>Leftshit/Prog Zombies
>Engaging in hypocrisy
Nooooooo, really? Are you sure?
It’s funny that anons are so invested in the inside baseball of who’s making their goyslop
>Lassiter’s out?
>Chapek’s in!
>Goldberg finally took over the Putting Black folk in European Folklore division?!
>it's funny that people choose to not be ignorant
fricking hilarious, isn't it?
>Bro can you believe Ja’Quarvuos Sneed joined the San Diego Ballrunners?
This is how you homosexuals sound except it’s actually worse because at least sports are masculine
No, that sounds more like you every time you post
Weak
>a bunch of Cinemaphile men playing with balls
Sounds pretty gay bro
>Goldberg finally took over the Putting Black folk in European Folklore division?!
That's Jennifer Lee. Jennifer Lee singlehandedly brought down Walt Disney Animation Studios.
Serious question: is pumping out a constant stream of woke garbage (ie race-swapped franchise reboots) a breach of their fiduciary duties? It's quite well-established by now that it's losing them money
Could be seen as such
Does it mean that other streaming services are profitable?
If so, why are they profitable and Disney isn't?
If not, why's nobody talking about them too?
They do talk about it. HBO Max and Paramount are having problems.
Why do you think Zaslav has been canning HBO Max stuff for tax write-offs or shoving them off to other streamers like Amazon Prime
He canned shit nobody was watching and hasn't licensed anything yet, HBO is doing the best in the streaming market
>He canned shit nobody was watching
Some stuff was nearly complete (Batgirl, Scoob 2)
Some weren't even in the production stage (that JJ Abrams sci-fi show)
Some were probably mostly complete or already complete and were sent off to other streamers (Batman: Caped Crusader and Merry Little Batman got sent to Amazon Prime)
This is not that different from what Disney is doing with some Disney+ shows
The difference is that WB isn't on the hook for billions to Comcast while Disney is, and WB actually had a massive hit movie this year (Barbie) while Disney has yet to have one this year
All good calls, he should pull out of capeshit altogether except the random Todd Phillips surefire billion dollar movie here and there. The Idol was a legit frick up though, HBO was dominating pretty hard and gaining a great reputation among normies only to waste it on a vanity project for a nepo druggie and the zestiest buck in Hollywood, I don't get it
None of them are, that's the problem. At least not while they're spending hundreds of millions on shows that will never ever turn a profit because profit isn't linked to the show but to subscriptions, and no way in hell are you attracting enough people to make 100 million dollars, lowball, from them signing up to your service. It was rigged from the get go.
Zas will be rolling in dough by 2025, 26 latest. Stamp it
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...the Great Awakening is almost upon us.
God, I wish.
Is Netflix the only one that's kinda profitable, the subscriber apocalypse didn't happen even when they stopped account sharing, it boosted their subscriber base even more proof that goy cattle are willing to pay. They're the only ones that were able to internationalize too, they have exclusive netflix shows from Korea and Japan and some get international attention.
Netflix isn't profitable at all right now. It's being kept alive with venture capital cash injections. They are probably the best POSITIONED to stay the course and come out at the end intact though.
They've been dumping billions into content development every year and they really don't have all that much to show for it. No one thought through the real ramifications of starting your own streaming service, development of content strictly for said streaming service and maintaining that service while receiving no money for it outside of subscription fees.
The lifeblood of major TV is advertising and syndication licenses. They literally cut off their own revenue stream.
Ironically Netflix is the only streaming service that DOES turn a profit
Streaming model makes perfect sense. The real problem is it only makes sense in the manner it originally started - as a replacement for syndication TV. Shows and movies that have completed their run being sold to a netflix on a budget. Once the original content came in it was a bit iffy, but still works. When it completely fell apart was competitors. The fact that Disney has two streaming platforma is so moronic. Siloing all the content was the big mistake. Plus just insane, outlandish expenditure. Casually dropping 250 million on complete dog shit no one wants, over and over. It's like the management is a bigger problem than the medium.
Spielcuck and Lucas already b***hed about this a decade ago, and Ridley Scott not long ago
>Streaming model makes perfect sense. The real problem is it only makes sense in the manner it originally started - as a replacement for syndication TV
Agreed, however I would say it's an enhancement rather than a replacement.
Netflix was making money, until it had to start spending billions on content development. Outside of limited merchandising for some of those shows, these are one and done cash generation platforms. Their binge model perpetuates this. We last subbed for stranger things new season for a month, watched it along with one or two other things that came out in the mean time and cancelled. There's just no point to paying any more than you have to.
tubi's gonna be okay, right guys?
>100 million dollars completely flushed down the drain
>Show completely and fully shot
Meine sides. This fricking company.
>The 10-episode first season of Nautilus has already been filmed, and the show is now being shopped to other outlets.
>spent "at least 150 million" on production so far
How the frick do any of these people have jobs. How do you just lose 150 million and not get fired.
>How do you just lose 150 million and not get fired.
Nepotism.
Didn't they also just drop an already-filmed Spiderwick Chronicles reboot series too?
Multiple completed shows/movies and pulling already screened shows.
They had a movie called Crater, budget of 60mil - pulled it after 3 weeks.
They want to cut 3 BILLION dollars worth of non-sports content.
Why doesn't Netflix just do theatrical releases for their higher budget movies previous to streaming?
They do. No one watches them.
Sometimes they do. I saw The Gray Man at the kinoplex. I was the only one there.
if disney actually goes broke, we can abuse that joke
>Solves media service providers and makes billions upon billions
>Nobody else bothers copying the model
>Streaming services start imploding because it's impossible to actually turn a profit on them
Why?
That's a brilliant idea
All you have to do is stream untouched UHDs
What's the analogy here, to charge per rental? Vudu and lots of others do that. I suppose they're doing alright.
People who talk about steaming numbers like they're real need to be beaten with canes.
Disney is pozzing itself to death. They need to purge the entire staff from the mid level up.
It can't unless they hire from abroad or from state universities. So long as they keep hiring people from NYU and Harvard, they are only pulling from a group that is already indoctrinated with post structuralist nonsense. At this point there is too much interia to stop it. You have wokeshitting commies only hiring other communists. By the time all the boomers retire, the company will be completely taken over by communists. It's like hiring from a madrasa and wondering why all your employees are Muslim.
How can a company go from heaven to hell in less than two decades? 2003 disney was peak corporation, they were the best at everything and everyone even was thinking they would be the future of dystopian corporations who owned everything.
Fast forward 20 years, they are GARBAGE, and every year they lose more influence.
Kinda brings me a bit of hope that maybe we arent doomed after all bros? Maybe their hubris will be their fall
lets not forget disneys monopoly on trademarks is going to finally expire in 2024
press S
Steamboat Willie 2 here we come
Disney will be split up. The theme parks and related products will be spun off into its own thing. Apple will buy the bulk of the remainder and get rid of some of the lower end product lines.
Everything bad that happens to Disney is direct karma for canceling Tron: Uprising and Motorcity. I hope the mouse gets sold to Apple.
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