I just watch the mrballen vids where he tells the story of people moronic enough to go cave diving especially when they have no idea wtf they're doing. Spoiler: it always ends in horrific ways,
The cavers I know tend to have a "stupidly brave" personality. They do these dangerous things but they aren't standing up to fear they genuinely don't consider the danger. It's just fun. That being said, most of the accidents you hear about come from dumb kids not knowing what they are doing, people following a map incorrectly or fricking up basic principles of caving.
And I know this website is terribly racist but I've never seen a black person die from a caving accident. This always struck me as one of those things white people do because they think they are invincible kek.
The big problem with diving over other xtreem sports is once the oxygen starts getting fugged up your judgement goes to shit so you are in trouble without realizing you are in trouble.
Yep, and it's very easy to frick up. If you accidentally kick the ground with your flipper you will blind yourself from the silt. If you lose the line you're fricked. If you, even for a moment, lose your sense of direction you might be upside down without knowing it. I do not understand why people do it. Just ride a rollercoaster.
Black people are dumb, but they aren't "crawl into a tiny space that you might not get out of" dumb. They are "get immediately aggressive for no reason and do something you'll regret five minutes from now" dumb. Both races are moronic for their own reasons.
Idk about that, but I do think white people have less ability to sense danger with something like this.
Why don't you just tether your wrist to the safety line? That way you can swim off to the side with confidence and explore whatever. Then just follow your tether back to the safety line and follow that up and out. Even a blind man can do it. Cave diving solved ezpz. You'd have to be moronic to die doing this.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>gets tangled in tether
nice
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>carry a knife >just get untangled >if you can’t get untangled cut the line
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>cut the line >get lost and drown
the tether idea is redundant
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Have it on a reel like a dog leash so it stays tight and not tangled
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Then you are restricted by the line. Why do people keep riding motorcycles instead of motor trikes? More mobility.
>white people have less ability to sense danger
Dhite people are the ones you normally see doing this because you need tens of thousands of dollars in disposable income.
>Idk about that, but I do think white people have less ability to sense danger with something like this.
black people are simply not explorers
they dont seem to have an appreciation of nature and they just aren't curious
they dont go hiking, they dont climb mountains, they stay away from water, they dont like the woods, they're scared of animals, etc
Black people are dumb, but they aren't "crawl into a tiny space that you might not get out of" dumb. They are "get immediately aggressive for no reason and do something you'll regret five minutes from now" dumb. Both races are moronic for their own reasons.
Going with the theory that black people have high time preference and limited concept of past-present-future, then it makes sense. Cave diving is something that kind of sucks in the moment, but makes for thrilling stories and bragging rights afterwards. You're enduring a dangerous, uncomfortable, frightening thing *now*, so that your *future* self can claim the prestige.
You can seethe all you want
He's right
Or do you really think there's no difference between a race that lives in tropical conditions year round vs a race that has to plan for winters?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
If you are arguing that your melanin in your skin somehow determines your cognitive function with the concept of fricking time and the passing of time, than you are laughably and cartoonishly moronic. What makes phrenology gays sperg out so hard is that the differences between groups aren't as vast as you pretend and easy to account for when you change the environment.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Wow, this might be the most moronic thing I've ever read. You've got the cause and effect backwards while you are more focused on virtue signaling you just proved his point.
Bravo
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Um, sweaty? Race is ONLY skin colour, ok? And...? It doesn't even exist.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
It makes you seething mad that this is actually true, doesn't it?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>whoosh
Goddamn you people are stupid, that moron literally said that Africans in the Sahara literally don't compute the concept of time the same way, which is so laughably and demonstrably false that it's comical. Even if I steelmanned the position and granted you that there are seasonal expectations that a tribesman has that someone in the West does not, that's not them having a failure to grasp how fricking time works and if you put them into a Western school or university, they will score the same in under a year as western students. Nothing you ever believe is backed by any real science it's all just race realism slop for morons.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Everything in this post is statistically and demonstrably false. You live in a fantasy land
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>nuh uh
woah, is THIS the power of race realism? You'll be in every classroom any day now!
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Exquisitely calibrated bait
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>everything outside of my insular /misc/ bubbles is bait
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Oh, I didn't realize the ONLY differences between each race was the amount of melanin
I bet you believe pit bulls are no different than any other dog breed
Thanks, reddit
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>muh pitbulls are like humans meme moron argument from low IQ race realists
Why does this topic break your brain so much? The differences between different artificially selected breeds of dog are vastly wider than the minor environmental difference in homogenous groups of human. Whites aren't different fricking breeds of human you colossal homosexual, there isn't enough difference to constitute breeds.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>aborigines have been geographically isolated from humanity longer than any dog breed has existed >minor environmental differences
okay, sure amigo
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Why is it that on every scientific issue you want to be le based science enjoyer but then it comes to your flatard-level phrenology and you repeat shit that's unironically been debunked for two centuries.
Are aboriginals a different species? Because they aren't, any actual scientist would laugh at you
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Oh wow, great arguments. It's just a coincidence that every scientific institution on earth has disagreed with you for centuries, it must be an elaborate fricking plot and not just that you are a moron who's ideologically bent towards phrenology memes. Sure rattles my brain balls. Any day now they'll teach it as an elective!
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>trust the experts chud!
You’re lucky I don’t have any ‘jaks saved on my phone or you’d be finished, kiddo.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>it's not that the entire world has rejected my unscientific hypothesis, no no no don't you see it's specifically a plot to make me look stupid. I'm not stupid!
You sound like flat earthers.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I am literally begging you Redditors to stop thinking appeals to authority all the be-all end-all of arguments
>we can't agree that the earth is round because there's no such thing as a consensus, the jury is still out on the shape of the earth!
I wonder if you are this ridiculous about any other topic?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
*consensuses
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Consensii
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>It's just a coincidence that every scientific institution on earth has disagreed with you for centuries
You mean a decade or so. Anyone still arguing about blacks not being lower IQ has a belly fool of kool-aid.
Notice I said argue instead of believe. That's because you don't' actually believe that blacks aren't lower IQ you just dishonestly argue about it because that's what you are 'supposed to do'.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Post the actual study, coward. Let's actually look at what it says and it's validity. Go on.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Post the actual study, coward. Let's actually look at what it says and it's validity. Go on.
Isn't that rich from the guy who didn't post even a single paragraph despite 'centuries' of science disagreeing? >uhh... ACKshually that wasn't me
Doesn't matter, you are replying to me so that means you agree to some degree to the person that said it. Not like you asked him to post any of those 'centuries' of science anyways either eh?
>le IQ meme
I just want you people to admit you wouldn't care what the science says, you just hate blacks. You literally don't make these arguments for whites. It's always hedge betting with whites, but it's some sort of sacrosanct end all be all with blacks.
Curious.
>resort to using science as an argument >fume when it gets used against you
lol
>can't argue phrenology >pivots to IQ
lol many such cases, you thought nobody would notice
>pivots to phrenology
but you are the one who mentioned phrenology out of the blue here though
If you are arguing that your melanin in your skin somehow determines your cognitive function with the concept of fricking time and the passing of time, than you are laughably and cartoonishly moronic. What makes phrenology gays sperg out so hard is that the differences between groups aren't as vast as you pretend and easy to account for when you change the environment.
and now it's clear why: so you could use it to try to weasel away from the argument
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>won't post the article
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>won't post even a paragraph from 'centuries' of science
Why should I give you the change to dissect my proof when you have not even proven your claim?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
chance*
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Lol I accept your concession, you either skimmed it and found that it doesn't work for your poltard argument or you realize it's not a valid study. >why don't you argue a negative and prove the world is flat
Bud, the world disagrees with YOU, you are making the contrarian fricking claims.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>claiming that centuries of science said a thing >a negative
??????
the absolute state of your argument, you are in shambles
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
The consensus is that phrenology is an unscientific pseudo slop, you have to make the argument it isn't.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>you HAVE to prove a negative to me personally using a framework I establish and only using sources that I deem valid chud!
Do you people even hear yourselves
I bet you’re gonna pat yourself on the back once this thread 404s about vanquishing yet another /misc/ meanie aren’t you
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
You are just going to run back there and cry anyway. That's all you do
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>you have to make the argument it isn't
So you want me to argue the negative now? lol
Not like it matters because the issue here is that the person who started babbling about phrenology is you anyways and it bit you in the ass when you though you could pretend it wasn't you that tried to pivot to it.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>no u
it's like you are all mentally stunted, you literally started to argue phrenology. I know why you are back peddling, because you got outed as a phrenology moron and you missed your mark with the subtlety.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
lol
If you are arguing that your melanin in your skin somehow determines your cognitive function with the concept of fricking time and the passing of time, than you are laughably and cartoonishly moronic. What makes phrenology gays sperg out so hard is that the differences between groups aren't as vast as you pretend and easy to account for when you change the environment.
I'm sorry for your caretaker. It must be a hard life.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Post your hands. How fat?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
lol
>t. polhomosexual phrenologist
You are really upset right now.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Post. Hands.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
You first.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Lol fatso.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>doesn't post hand
lmao fatty >doesn't post even a small paragraph of centuries of science
lmao ur wrong
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>why don't you prove to me the world is round? Checkmate libtards. >t. fat moronic polzoomer
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
a two minute google search is all it took me to put you straight into meltdown mode
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>everyone but me is having a meltdown
it's a fascinating world you people live in, the constant mockery and derision the entire world has for you, the endless times you get btfo everywhere, and yet you just have this delusion that it's the entire world around you upset lol
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>everyone but me
Not everyone, just you.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
And yet you didn't post the source...funny
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
And yet you didn't post it either...funny
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>no u
I'm bored.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>no source despite centuries of it
I'm bored.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>back peddling
Lmfao
It must be fricking miserable to be a leftoid nowadays
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Hey remember when you pivoted to IQ because you were looking like a moron then acted like a pussy about the source? That was a good time. Still waiting for that source btw. I'm sure it will come anytime!
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Still waiting for that source btw. I'm sure it will come anytime!
Like all those centuries of science, no doubt.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I accept your concession.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Still waiting for that source btw. I'm sure it will come anytime!
Like all those centuries of science, no doubt.
Let's BTFO that piece of shit racist by dumping some science on his ass and, to really drive home the point, let's post some solid scientific evidence pre-1965 which shows that there is no racial disparities in cognitive abilities.
You guys seem to really know your shit so I'll leave it in your capable, snow-white hands, let's show him!
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>you need to give me studies that the world isn't flat for me to agree that the world is round
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
t. every physician before Gallileo
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
You people are straight up morons.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Kek, this anon burns local
You people are straight up morons.
Post a peer-reviewed study proving it, sweaty
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Er... this is really problematic, unless you're deboonking science as white supremacy which, in that case, is fine.
Besides, if non-whites were less intelligent they'd be hundreds, if not thousands, of years behind whites in terms of technological and cultural advancement.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Leftards really are the stupidest kind of person lmfao
This is getting embarassing
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>le IQ meme
I just want you people to admit you wouldn't care what the science says, you just hate blacks. You literally don't make these arguments for whites. It's always hedge betting with whites, but it's some sort of sacrosanct end all be all with blacks.
Curious.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Racial differences in IQ and intelligence are a scientific fact but the shitlibs are correct, in a way, about the tests being flawed.
Asians overachieving in tests is a product of them encouraging cheating, whereas whites self-limit themselves for the sake of fairness and honor.
Cheating is the confounding factor
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
That and disparities with IQ performance can be shortened very easily to the point of not being data that means anything.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
This is true in one sense, IQ tests are an accurate measure of relative intelligence among whites, and are useful for testing other sentient and semi-sentient sub-species of homosapiens.
It doesn't provide the entire picture though, there are a number of other important factors and evolutionary traits which apply to "real" intelligence: co-operaiton, forethought, low time preference.
This is why the poorest and least intelligent white people, for example, are FAR more successful and productive than upper-middle class blacks and browns, on average, even in the face of massive artificial obstacles.
White superiority goes way further than intelligence alone, the compounding factor of being born and bred into a humane population isn't emphasized enough, IQ is very individualistic and viewed in a vacuum.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
There are no "sub species" of homosapiens, homosexual. There are only homosapiens.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Entirely false and in conflict with all biological, evolutionary, and genetic science. Frankly, you're spreading dangerous anti-science misinformation, like so many others.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I don't live in the third world, Ahmed. No evolutionary biologist thinks that.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>can't argue phrenology >pivots to IQ
lol many such cases, you thought nobody would notice
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>gets BTFO >starts sputtering autistically
every single time
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>btfo
you literally figured out that you couldn't reasonably argue phrenology memes so you 180 pivoted to an unsourced study about IQ randomly as if that somehow was an argument. Every single one of you polhomosexuals is either purposefully disingenuous or moronic.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I accept your concession.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
And no, you can't just pretend the scope of phrenology is wider than it is because you got caught using a word you didn't know.
Leftards really are the stupidest kind of person lmfao
This is getting embarassing
You polBlack folk are unironically the dumbest fricking posters on this site. All you did was shid and fard and then pussy out when you got caught being a moron.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>caught trying to ascribe arguments to people that didn't make them >get called out >claim it's everyone else that was being a moron
Boring.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
It's truly like you live in your own worlds. Post how fat your hands are.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I'll post my hands when you post your nose.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Curious that no one has mentioned phrenology except for the person claiming others are trying to prove it.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Lol come on anon, you don't have to dogwhistle when everyone who isn't a moron knows you are soft pitching phrenology outside of containment.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Phrenology is a specific thing that isn't related to anything anyone has said in this thread. Either you don't know what it is or you're being deliberately disingenuous. Probably both.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
imagine saying nonsense like blacks don't have the same concept of time and that they are a different species and then back peddling that you aren't talking phrenology?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Like I said: you don't know what phrenology is.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>no true phrenologist
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
And no, you can't just pretend the scope of phrenology is wider than it is because you got caught using a word you didn't know.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
See
Phrenology was proto-science when it was practiced and is true science today, considering the observable functions of the frontal lobe, in particular, and the underdeveloped frontal cranial cavity in most human sub-species is a slam dunk.
It has a lot to do with this lively discussion, the size and shape of the cranium and, thus, the brain is one of the bluntest yet most-accurate factors determining intelligence.
Asians, blacks, pajeets on average observably have tiny skulls relative to their bodies, compared with relatively large white skulls that have large frontal lobes. Again, this is hard science which is politically incorrect but there's no way to effectively argue against it.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Phrenology was proto-science when it was practiced and is true science today, considering the observable functions of the frontal lobe, in particular, and the underdeveloped frontal cranial cavity in most human sub-species is a slam dunk.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Anon, sub Saharan African tribes also know that days become nights and then back into days...
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
There's a difference between planning to survive for 8 hours and planning to survive three to four months in a harsh climate
The only cave diver i know is a mid-20s black software engineer with a 400 dollar consulting fee. He's also a pilot and saxophonist. Worked with him at AWS
Well it's nice to hear that some blacks can be as insane and moronic as whites when it comes to wanting to kill themselves via spelunking.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Blacks are more insane and moronic when it comes to killing themselves. They’d rather die by shooting each other, from obesity/diabetes, drugs, etc. At least white people have hobbies, interests, ambition, and are active.
These types are rare but they do exist, usually growing up with both parents present and relentlessly forcing nurture to overcome nature, it's genuinely impressive.
>do something you'll regret five minutes from now"
That's outside the range of their functional memory, they don't feel regret for past actions, only indignation and confusion during present consequences.
>peer review study
A study of peer review >peer-reviewed study
A study reviewed by one's peers.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yas the words you spoked were is perfect grammar, frick bloody stupid white basterd anon
You can literally say a singular study is a "peer review" study you fricking non-American disinfo shill. That's not grammatically incorrect.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yas the words you spoked were is perfect grammar, frick bloody stupid white basterd anon
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>"I'm sure you'll have a peer review study, right?" >I'm sure you WILL have a peer review study, right?
[...]
You can literally say a singular study is a "peer review" study you fricking non-American disinfo shill. That's not grammatically incorrect.
What makes you assume I'm in any position to conduct a study, especially for self-evident facts of nature?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>gets btfo about his apparent second language
I accept your concession. >le self evident
Please walk into any collegiate or professional research setting and just say "it's my feefees bro" and see if you don't get laughed out of a room.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>so self-evident not a single university on earth teaches it
must be those pesky liberals down at Cambridge or Oxford and all those "woke" professors from 200 years ago, amirite?
>denies centuries worth of evolutionary and cognitive science
Your appeals to popular pseudo-science have no power here
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>denies centuries worth of evolutionary and cognitive
My brother in Christ, that is what YOU are doing.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
So where's my phrenology elective at Oxford?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>so self-evident not a single university on earth teaches it
must be those pesky liberals down at Cambridge or Oxford and all those "woke" professors from 200 years ago, amirite?
It’s largely because most adrenaline sports or other weird shit tends to be some combination of a pain in the ass to engage in or expensive, meaning their historic demographics tended to be rural locals and middle class or above, both of which tended to be white in Europe and America.
Since there’s been no push for inclusivity, it’s just remained more or less the same despite the relative lack of barriers nowadays. I’ve literally never seen a black skydiver outside of tandems in fifteen years, for example.
>And I know this website is terribly racist but I've never seen a black person die from a caving accident. This always struck me as one of those things white people do because they think they are invincible kek.
This is correct. Only white people and east asians like to visit mountains or cave for fun (mainly mountains in the case of east asians) . The two higher races.
>And I know this website is terribly racist but I've never seen a black person die from a caving accident.
black people don't swim/cave lol. black people can't swim in 4ft of water, moron.
Black people aren’t ambitious, they aren’t explorers. There’s a reason why the white man was sailing the world and had been creating civilizations for thousands of years while Black folk were still living in mud huts. Plus they’re too poor to afford diving equipment and lessons anyway. Cave diving is a white person thing for the same reason exploring the world and creating society is a white person thing.
To add, societies have their tipping point. The middle eastern societies were the cradle of structured civilization and the first scribes and record keepers emerged from there. Eventually they reached their pinnacle and other groups who had adopted their ways, and improved it took over (not necessarily through wars and conquest). All of history moves in this direction. African countries never had this, likely cause humans migrated out of Africa. By the time they were in Sumer they had left behind their old ways and established societies. Human progress can be tracked geographically to. After the USA I’m willing to wager another empire emerged to lead innovation for the world
Black people aren’t ambitious, they aren’t explorers. There’s a reason why the white man was sailing the world and had been creating civilizations for thousands of years while Black folk were still living in mud huts. Plus they’re too poor to afford diving equipment and lessons anyway. Cave diving is a white person thing for the same reason exploring the world and creating society is a white person thing.
Stop typing, you aren't a historian and nobody takes you seriously.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Lying about? You can prove me right in seconds using israelite tools like google
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Who said lying. You read like a Black person, impulsive and inaccurately. That’s why he told you to stop ~~*(typing*~~)
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Seethe redditor, Black folk are subhuman
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
cope gay
they don't have it in them
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
How many mountains have you climbed?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
This, imagine taking the credit for something your ancestors did 500+ years ago, lmao! /misc/cel sits in his little basement shitting on black people, meanwhile hundreds of thousands of black people are braving the elements and living off the land in Africa this very second. Africans unironically live a more adventurous life than the average /misc/tard, and it's hillarious they don't realize this.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>eating UN humanitarian rations and spreading AIDS only to be hacked to death by someone pretending to be a muslim is an adventurous life
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
It unironically is. They are living on the plains, braiving the elements, hunting their food, telling stories by the fire. Shit a /misc/tard wouldn't last 48 hours doing, if we're being honest.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>hunting their food
lmao you've clearly never been to subsaharan africa, it's a wonderland of gibs
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
What do you think Africa is like in current year buddy.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I know well over half of it is 3rd world still, with most of that half living savage lifestyles. Keep coping, the average African is living a more adventerous life than you are, /misc/cel.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>africa is a homogeneous country
thank you american education system
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Only a tiny fraction of the african population still lives in anything resembling a hunter gather lifestyle. Even those people that still lives in tribal groups do so practicing farming, and cattle ranching, not hunting, that's extremely rare.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>doesn't know what adventure means
Hahahaha
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Says this moronic shit while also spouting WE WUZ KANGS and WYPEEPO OWE ME REPARASHUNZ FO DEM SLAVEREEZ AND MO MONEY FO DEM PROGRAMZ
In a way, civilizational collapse is like John Jones crawling into a underground dead end upside down that he had to exhale all the air from his lungs to fit into
When I lived in Orlando I would always see black guys doing insane motorcycle stunts all day. They die doing that a lot, probably more in a month than white spelunkers in several years.
It's weirder than you think. White people have a crap ton of stupid courage. The see that funny grim reaper poster and think "At last! A challenge worthy of my skills." Even if they don't have any skills at all. Black people see the poster and think the actual grim reaper is stalking the cave waiting to chop them with a scythe.
Someone did a prank video a while ago that show them surprising white people right up to their face, when they did that to a black man he reflexively punched them -- I think if zombies are real we'll probably get more black survivors than white survivors in the initial outbreak because of that, blacks have seen zombie movies too and I think they'll be a lot quicker to accept zombies being real, just destroy brain, instead of tripping over the why and wherefores.
>interesting thread derailed by a race baiting troll
Good work anon you giant fricking homosexual. Worst thing is you're probably not black or white you're one of those BBC spamming self hating Happas.
You're just trying to keep all the cave treasure for yourself you filthy cavejew. I'm not falling for your tricks I'm going to explore caves and be unsafe and take all your treasure.
I liked the one with the moron who kept going off and leaving the line, and then finally they lose sight of him but he had surfaced in some lightless air pocket and spent the next 2 weeks dying of starvation
These types of stories are extra horrific because if you drown at least you die relatively quickly even if it supposedly is one of the most painful ways to die but if you just get stuck down there like he did and have no light, no oxygen and no realistic way of getting anywhere so you just have to sit there in the dark and wait for someone to find you or for your body to get tired enough to die
I love the “creepy interesting” vids about cave diving. I’ve watched a ridiculous amount of them. It boils down to these guys being junkies, it’s as simple as that. You get to be in total zen while feeli by like your drunk off your ass. They all die because they are impaired when they run into a bit of trouble that always logically doesn’t sound like a big deal >he signaled his partner to turn around >his partner mistakenly thought they were stuck and panicked >he accidentally inhaled water and died right there, forcing the other guy to have to traverse his best friends remains to get out
best thing is that these caves are absolutely boring 99% of the times
it's literally just a dirt hole
i could understand it if you arrive in a huge cave with awesome rock structures or like a catacomb or something
This is a lie. This guy is probably a gatekeeping diver. These big complex deep caves have treasure chests and riches beyond comprehension at the bottom, it's what compels these people to keep diving despite clear risk of death.
The dudes that found those crystal caves caused immeasurable damage.
Now everyone thinks they're going to find some amazing at the bottom of a wet and moldy 6" wide passageway and not just more stone and cave slime.
>The Naica Mine or the Cave of Crystals is located over an intrusion of magma, which makes the temperature in the cave very hot and humid. Temperatures rise as high as 136 degrees Fahrenheit (58 degrees Celsius) and the air in the cave has 90 to 99 percent humidity.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
ok, so did he die down there?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Overheating, also maybe drowning.
In that environment the insides of your lungs is the coolest surface around, so water is going to condensate inside them.
You need specialized equipment and a respirator to go inside that cave
For me it’s that one diving hole in Nevada or some shit that has a small hole at the bottom that connects to a massive underwater ocean. Probably one of the more terrifying things I’ve considered. Who knows what’s down there.
>In 1965, Paul Giancontieri, a teenager who had jumped the fence with friends to go SCUBA diving in the hole, did not come back up. Another, David Rose, went down to find him, but did not come back up either.[7] Later efforts by five divers to find their bodies were unsuccessful.[8]
AAAAAA
>Who knows what’s down there.
Why dont any of these moronic homosexuals fricking send a underwater drone or some shit to explore it? Would also be able to navigate tighter passages humans cant pass.
In the case of Devil’s Hole there’s some super rare fish at the entrance to the cave (I think it’s literally the only place on the planet that they exist) which means nobody can go in or explore it anymore.
So, we’ll never know what’s in that huge underground ocean besides 2 or 3 bodies of some people who disappeared in there a long time ago.
Drones would be limited in a lot of ways that differ from humans. Drones in open water have far less shit for their power lifelines to get caught on. If you've ever ran cables through the walls of your house you'd know that even stuff that seems to be a straight shot can often take time and effort to navigate even with the proper tools. Drones can't work themselves free or navigate by touch like a human can. Drones also can't swim to minimize silt like a human can. They might work in some cases of cave exploring but it's more risk it gets caught and stuck. Then you have to think about the drone navigating back the way it came with a lifeline both infront and trying to drag what it behind it or simply trying to back up.
>In 1965, Paul Giancontieri, a teenager who had jumped the fence with friends to go SCUBA diving in the hole, did not come back up. Another, David Rose, went down to find him, but did not come back up either.[7] Later efforts by five divers to find their bodies were unsuccessful.[8]
AAAAAA
Once you see what is down there you no longer want to be here. The beauties of what lies beyond the deep are unimaginable to those who have never been there. The way out is through. Will you choose to stay where you are, or will you venture into the deep and join us?
>A subsequent USGS exploration into Devil's Hole in 1991 by Alan Riggs, Paul DeLoach, and Sheck Exley entered what they found out to be a narrow tube rather than an 'Infinity Room' at 315 feet (96 m), descending to a depth of 436 feet (133 m). The team reported being able to see down to a depth of some 500 feet (150 m), without visualizing the bottom of the cavern.
>On March 20, 2012, a 7.4-magnitude earthquake in Oaxaca, Mexico, some 2,000 miles (3,200 km) away and centered roughly 12 miles (19 km) below the surface, caused an undulating 4 feet (1.2 m) rise and fall of the cavern waters, as appreciated by researchers working at Devil's Hole at the time. This provided further evidence that the Devil's Hole cave system was connected not only to the Death Valley Regional Groundwater Flow System, but possibly to even further-reaching underground water systems. The 1991 USGS dive team described the Devil's Hole as a "skylight" into the water table.
This shit reminds me of Subnautica where you go nonchalantly into a small cave only to find a massive interconnected system that stretches through the entire game with 3 different biomes.
I soifaced hard, which made me immediately understand the pile of bodies of people who died wanting to explore the unexplored
how do you not look at this map and think: "if i jerked off past '3rd restriction', i'd probably be the first human being to ever do that". does that not entice you? don't you want to spank it in every chamber in this literal shithole just to say you did?
the taper end of 4th restriction might be perfectly formed to accept the shape of your dong. just imagine, the ultimate fleshlight. and it's down there waiting for you to take its virginity.
I went to Carlsbad Caverns once. The inside of the cave is really cool. But the mouth of the cave is swarming with birds that shit on everyone that went into it.
>Thread about cave diving in film >turns into /misc/tard baiting and depraved shitposting
I can't wait until the election is over and /misc/ tourists stop shitting up other boards
As said, Sanctum is entertaining, truly gives the feeling of clostrophobia, especially if you saw it in 3D. Can't speak to how realistic it is or not, though.
I haven't watched it yet, was the divers body they were trying to recover in some super deep tight cave area? or was it actually in an open kind of zone or at least close to it?
why couldn't they just swim to the body and quickly attach a super inflatable to it?? just move it to an opening above no matter how far that opening is then set the inflate off or just frick off back to the surface and activate it remotely, i dont get it
it was stupid deep, like 850 feet, the first guy died trying to set a world record, and you couldn't get straight to it, the body was off to the side and the actual column was curved
>obviously excluding boat/submarine kinos
The Abyss
Thunderball
Into the Blue
Fool's Gold
Sahara
Dave Not Coming Back
Sanctum
The Deep
Sphere
Men of Honor
Thirteen Lives
The Rock
Last Breath
The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou
Ghosts of the Abyss
Atlantis the Lost Empire
>Thunderball underwater sequences were groundbreaking
Creature from the Black Lagoon did it first. The actor who played the gill-man in the underwater scenes went on to direct the underwater scenes in Thunderball.
> look, 10 minutes of blurry footage of people slowly flailing in the kankakee river
Thunderball is a shitty movie and I'm tired of pretending it's not. It's not a "bad" movie that you can laugh at like Diamonds are Forever or View to a Kill, it's just a boring slog of unmemorable shit. The film peaks during the opening song.
For Your Eyes Only, however, is pure kino and girls with crossbows are hot as frick
>1 girl finds a cave >tries to dive in it, passes out because is too cold and dangerous and ALMOST DIES >thinks on this >goes and gets a bunch of her friends >somehow makes them agree to check out the cave with her >reality ensues
it's weird the level of stunted survival instincts some motherfrickers have, even weirder when its juggled along with their adult mind and bounced between a whole group
butthole contrarians on here probably hate him, but internet historians "Man in a cave" is pretty interesting if you just want a spelunking gone wrong story
jesus christ how horrifying, probably one of the worst ways to go. Underwater but you can't find your way back, slowly running out of air and panicking
REMINDER: GREEDY CAVE GOBLINS SHILLPOST ON Cinemaphile TO DISCOURAGE US FROM GOING INTO CAVES AND FINDING THEIR LOOT >REMINDER: GREEDY CAVE GOBLINS SHILLPOST ON Cinemaphile TO DISCOURAGE US FROM GOING INTO CAVES AND FINDING THEIR LOOT
REMINDER: GREEDY CAVE GOBLINS SHILLPOST ON Cinemaphile TO DISCOURAGE US FROM GOING INTO CAVES AND FINDING THEIR LOOT >REMINDER: GREEDY CAVE GOBLINS SHILLPOST ON Cinemaphile TO DISCOURAGE US FROM GOING INTO CAVES AND FINDING THEIR LOOT
Don't think people cave dive in the amazon, it would be murky as frick, like scuba diving in shit. They cave dive in cenotes a lot, but they don't have piranha's. And Piranha are harmless so long as you aren't bleeding, or a woman.
No, it's real. Indians don't let bleeding women bathe in the river for that reason, nature isn't politically correct.
https://www.practicalfishkeeping.co.uk/fishkeeping-news/the-truth-about-piranha-attacks/#:~:text=If%20you're%20a%20menstruating,for%20this%20reason%2C%20says%20Mol.
It doesn't seem hygienic tbh, I really can't imagine ever wanting to down on girl who has only ever washed her c**t in filthy muddy river water. Though to be fair I wouldn't blame her for not wanting to reciprocate orally on me if I had only ever washed in a dirty river.
Really makes me doubt/hope tribals where not big on oral sex, leave that for civilized folks who developed boiled water bathing.
Don't think people cave dive in the amazon, it would be murky as frick, like scuba diving in shit. They cave dive in cenotes a lot, but they don't have piranha's. And Piranha are harmless so long as you aren't bleeding, or a woman.
So the set up could be, someone release piranha into English rivers and they somehow adapted to the cold. Or if not England, some place with clear waters...I remember there was a cave diving spot where there were tunnels that actually crossed national borders, but it's super dangerous. and now wit Piranhas! Vampire Piranhas that have adapted to the darkness of the cave so they can be warded off by flashlights, but the flashlights have limited batteries.
has nutty putty not been mentioned yet? >“Hi, John, my name is Susie. How’s it going?”
>“Hi, Susie, thanks for coming, but I really, really want to get out,” said 26-year-old John Jones.
>Jones and three others had left their party in search of "The Birth Canal", a tight but navigable passageway with a turnaround at the end. Jones entered an unmapped passageway which he wrongly believed to be the Canal and found himself at a dead end, with nowhere to go besides a narrow vertical fissure. Believing this to be the turnaround, he entered head-first and became wedged upside-down.[10] The fissure measured 10 by 18 inches (25 by 46 cm) and was located 400 feet (120 m) from the entrance of the cave.[11] A large team of rescue workers came to his assistance. The workers set up a sophisticated rope-and-pulley system in an attempt to extricate him, but the system failed when put under strain, plunging Jones back into the hole.[12] Jones ultimately suffered cardiac arrest due to the strain placed upon his body over several hours by his inverted, compressed position.
>heh, I almost had to come to terms with being blatantly wrong about something, but lo, looks like you posted a spelling error 😉 don't you see, that means phrenology is real now!
Every thread not directly related to television and/or film is going to be like this from now on. There will be no end to it, no respite, and no escaping it.
I like the screenshot you posted, anon, that's from the 2011 documentary "Empire of Dust", correct?
That doc was great, really well paced and edited, an easy watch while still being profound and utterly essential for understanding the world we live in.
Great recommendation, anon, I think I'll rewatch "Empire of Dust" (2011) again! Have a great day.
>so whats the point of cave diving?
A bunch of israelites dumped accurate scientific reports and data about racial disparities in intelligence into those caves, so a few brave and proud whites risk life and limb in the search for these lost treasures
Probably because you were talking about phrenology but the script you are given is that you aren't allowed to say it's phrenology to scare fence sitters off.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>you were talking about phrenology
I wasn't hence why you mentioning it out of somewhere hints at your obsession with it. Try to keep up, please.
I just watch the mrballen vids where he tells the story of people moronic enough to go cave diving especially when they have no idea wtf they're doing. Spoiler: it always ends in horrific ways,
Why do people do it? Is it like that Japanese webcomic where they are simply compelled to go in the hole.
Because it’s there, lad, nothing else
The cavers I know tend to have a "stupidly brave" personality. They do these dangerous things but they aren't standing up to fear they genuinely don't consider the danger. It's just fun. That being said, most of the accidents you hear about come from dumb kids not knowing what they are doing, people following a map incorrectly or fricking up basic principles of caving.
And I know this website is terribly racist but I've never seen a black person die from a caving accident. This always struck me as one of those things white people do because they think they are invincible kek.
The big problem with diving over other xtreem sports is once the oxygen starts getting fugged up your judgement goes to shit so you are in trouble without realizing you are in trouble.
Yep, and it's very easy to frick up. If you accidentally kick the ground with your flipper you will blind yourself from the silt. If you lose the line you're fricked. If you, even for a moment, lose your sense of direction you might be upside down without knowing it. I do not understand why people do it. Just ride a rollercoaster.
Idk about that, but I do think white people have less ability to sense danger with something like this.
Why don't you just tether your wrist to the safety line? That way you can swim off to the side with confidence and explore whatever. Then just follow your tether back to the safety line and follow that up and out. Even a blind man can do it. Cave diving solved ezpz. You'd have to be moronic to die doing this.
>gets tangled in tether
nice
>carry a knife
>just get untangled
>if you can’t get untangled cut the line
>cut the line
>get lost and drown
the tether idea is redundant
Have it on a reel like a dog leash so it stays tight and not tangled
Then you are restricted by the line. Why do people keep riding motorcycles instead of motor trikes? More mobility.
>white people have less ability to sense danger
Dhite people are the ones you normally see doing this because you need tens of thousands of dollars in disposable income.
>Idk about that, but I do think white people have less ability to sense danger with something like this.
black people are simply not explorers
they dont seem to have an appreciation of nature and they just aren't curious
they dont go hiking, they dont climb mountains, they stay away from water, they dont like the woods, they're scared of animals, etc
Black people are dumb, but they aren't "crawl into a tiny space that you might not get out of" dumb. They are "get immediately aggressive for no reason and do something you'll regret five minutes from now" dumb. Both races are moronic for their own reasons.
Going with the theory that black people have high time preference and limited concept of past-present-future, then it makes sense. Cave diving is something that kind of sucks in the moment, but makes for thrilling stories and bragging rights afterwards. You're enduring a dangerous, uncomfortable, frightening thing *now*, so that your *future* self can claim the prestige.
>t. polhomosexual phrenologist
You can seethe all you want
He's right
Or do you really think there's no difference between a race that lives in tropical conditions year round vs a race that has to plan for winters?
If you are arguing that your melanin in your skin somehow determines your cognitive function with the concept of fricking time and the passing of time, than you are laughably and cartoonishly moronic. What makes phrenology gays sperg out so hard is that the differences between groups aren't as vast as you pretend and easy to account for when you change the environment.
Wow, this might be the most moronic thing I've ever read. You've got the cause and effect backwards while you are more focused on virtue signaling you just proved his point.
Bravo
Um, sweaty? Race is ONLY skin colour, ok? And...? It doesn't even exist.
It makes you seething mad that this is actually true, doesn't it?
>whoosh
Goddamn you people are stupid, that moron literally said that Africans in the Sahara literally don't compute the concept of time the same way, which is so laughably and demonstrably false that it's comical. Even if I steelmanned the position and granted you that there are seasonal expectations that a tribesman has that someone in the West does not, that's not them having a failure to grasp how fricking time works and if you put them into a Western school or university, they will score the same in under a year as western students. Nothing you ever believe is backed by any real science it's all just race realism slop for morons.
Everything in this post is statistically and demonstrably false. You live in a fantasy land
>nuh uh
woah, is THIS the power of race realism? You'll be in every classroom any day now!
Exquisitely calibrated bait
>everything outside of my insular /misc/ bubbles is bait
Oh, I didn't realize the ONLY differences between each race was the amount of melanin
I bet you believe pit bulls are no different than any other dog breed
Thanks, reddit
>muh pitbulls are like humans meme moron argument from low IQ race realists
Why does this topic break your brain so much? The differences between different artificially selected breeds of dog are vastly wider than the minor environmental difference in homogenous groups of human. Whites aren't different fricking breeds of human you colossal homosexual, there isn't enough difference to constitute breeds.
>aborigines have been geographically isolated from humanity longer than any dog breed has existed
>minor environmental differences
okay, sure amigo
Why is it that on every scientific issue you want to be le based science enjoyer but then it comes to your flatard-level phrenology and you repeat shit that's unironically been debunked for two centuries.
Are aboriginals a different species? Because they aren't, any actual scientist would laugh at you
Oh wow, great arguments. It's just a coincidence that every scientific institution on earth has disagreed with you for centuries, it must be an elaborate fricking plot and not just that you are a moron who's ideologically bent towards phrenology memes. Sure rattles my brain balls. Any day now they'll teach it as an elective!
>trust the experts chud!
You’re lucky I don’t have any ‘jaks saved on my phone or you’d be finished, kiddo.
>it's not that the entire world has rejected my unscientific hypothesis, no no no don't you see it's specifically a plot to make me look stupid. I'm not stupid!
You sound like flat earthers.
I am literally begging you Redditors to stop thinking appeals to authority all the be-all end-all of arguments
Scientific consensus aren't authority appeals, polhomosexual.
“Scientific consensus” isn’t a thing, redditor.
>we can't agree that the earth is round because there's no such thing as a consensus, the jury is still out on the shape of the earth!
I wonder if you are this ridiculous about any other topic?
*consensuses
Consensii
>It's just a coincidence that every scientific institution on earth has disagreed with you for centuries
You mean a decade or so. Anyone still arguing about blacks not being lower IQ has a belly fool of kool-aid.
Notice I said argue instead of believe. That's because you don't' actually believe that blacks aren't lower IQ you just dishonestly argue about it because that's what you are 'supposed to do'.
Post the actual study, coward. Let's actually look at what it says and it's validity. Go on.
>Post the actual study, coward. Let's actually look at what it says and it's validity. Go on.
Isn't that rich from the guy who didn't post even a single paragraph despite 'centuries' of science disagreeing?
>uhh... ACKshually that wasn't me
Doesn't matter, you are replying to me so that means you agree to some degree to the person that said it. Not like you asked him to post any of those 'centuries' of science anyways either eh?
>resort to using science as an argument
>fume when it gets used against you
lol
>pivots to phrenology
but you are the one who mentioned phrenology out of the blue here though
and now it's clear why: so you could use it to try to weasel away from the argument
>won't post the article
>won't post even a paragraph from 'centuries' of science
Why should I give you the change to dissect my proof when you have not even proven your claim?
chance*
Lol I accept your concession, you either skimmed it and found that it doesn't work for your poltard argument or you realize it's not a valid study.
>why don't you argue a negative and prove the world is flat
Bud, the world disagrees with YOU, you are making the contrarian fricking claims.
>claiming that centuries of science said a thing
>a negative
??????
the absolute state of your argument, you are in shambles
The consensus is that phrenology is an unscientific pseudo slop, you have to make the argument it isn't.
>you HAVE to prove a negative to me personally using a framework I establish and only using sources that I deem valid chud!
Do you people even hear yourselves
I bet you’re gonna pat yourself on the back once this thread 404s about vanquishing yet another /misc/ meanie aren’t you
You are just going to run back there and cry anyway. That's all you do
>you have to make the argument it isn't
So you want me to argue the negative now? lol
Not like it matters because the issue here is that the person who started babbling about phrenology is you anyways and it bit you in the ass when you though you could pretend it wasn't you that tried to pivot to it.
>no u
it's like you are all mentally stunted, you literally started to argue phrenology. I know why you are back peddling, because you got outed as a phrenology moron and you missed your mark with the subtlety.
lol
I'm sorry for your caretaker. It must be a hard life.
Post your hands. How fat?
lol
You are really upset right now.
Post. Hands.
You first.
Lol fatso.
>doesn't post hand
lmao fatty
>doesn't post even a small paragraph of centuries of science
lmao ur wrong
>why don't you prove to me the world is round? Checkmate libtards.
>t. fat moronic polzoomer
a two minute google search is all it took me to put you straight into meltdown mode
>everyone but me is having a meltdown
it's a fascinating world you people live in, the constant mockery and derision the entire world has for you, the endless times you get btfo everywhere, and yet you just have this delusion that it's the entire world around you upset lol
>everyone but me
Not everyone, just you.
And yet you didn't post the source...funny
And yet you didn't post it either...funny
>no u
I'm bored.
>no source despite centuries of it
I'm bored.
>back peddling
Lmfao
It must be fricking miserable to be a leftoid nowadays
Hey remember when you pivoted to IQ because you were looking like a moron then acted like a pussy about the source? That was a good time. Still waiting for that source btw. I'm sure it will come anytime!
>Still waiting for that source btw. I'm sure it will come anytime!
Like all those centuries of science, no doubt.
I accept your concession.
Let's BTFO that piece of shit racist by dumping some science on his ass and, to really drive home the point, let's post some solid scientific evidence pre-1965 which shows that there is no racial disparities in cognitive abilities.
You guys seem to really know your shit so I'll leave it in your capable, snow-white hands, let's show him!
>you need to give me studies that the world isn't flat for me to agree that the world is round
t. every physician before Gallileo
You people are straight up morons.
Kek, this anon burns local
Post a peer-reviewed study proving it, sweaty
Er... this is really problematic, unless you're deboonking science as white supremacy which, in that case, is fine.
Besides, if non-whites were less intelligent they'd be hundreds, if not thousands, of years behind whites in terms of technological and cultural advancement.
Leftards really are the stupidest kind of person lmfao
This is getting embarassing
>le IQ meme
I just want you people to admit you wouldn't care what the science says, you just hate blacks. You literally don't make these arguments for whites. It's always hedge betting with whites, but it's some sort of sacrosanct end all be all with blacks.
Curious.
Racial differences in IQ and intelligence are a scientific fact but the shitlibs are correct, in a way, about the tests being flawed.
Asians overachieving in tests is a product of them encouraging cheating, whereas whites self-limit themselves for the sake of fairness and honor.
Cheating is the confounding factor
That and disparities with IQ performance can be shortened very easily to the point of not being data that means anything.
This is true in one sense, IQ tests are an accurate measure of relative intelligence among whites, and are useful for testing other sentient and semi-sentient sub-species of homosapiens.
It doesn't provide the entire picture though, there are a number of other important factors and evolutionary traits which apply to "real" intelligence: co-operaiton, forethought, low time preference.
This is why the poorest and least intelligent white people, for example, are FAR more successful and productive than upper-middle class blacks and browns, on average, even in the face of massive artificial obstacles.
White superiority goes way further than intelligence alone, the compounding factor of being born and bred into a humane population isn't emphasized enough, IQ is very individualistic and viewed in a vacuum.
There are no "sub species" of homosapiens, homosexual. There are only homosapiens.
Entirely false and in conflict with all biological, evolutionary, and genetic science. Frankly, you're spreading dangerous anti-science misinformation, like so many others.
I don't live in the third world, Ahmed. No evolutionary biologist thinks that.
>can't argue phrenology
>pivots to IQ
lol many such cases, you thought nobody would notice
>gets BTFO
>starts sputtering autistically
every single time
>btfo
you literally figured out that you couldn't reasonably argue phrenology memes so you 180 pivoted to an unsourced study about IQ randomly as if that somehow was an argument. Every single one of you polhomosexuals is either purposefully disingenuous or moronic.
I accept your concession.
You polBlack folk are unironically the dumbest fricking posters on this site. All you did was shid and fard and then pussy out when you got caught being a moron.
>caught trying to ascribe arguments to people that didn't make them
>get called out
>claim it's everyone else that was being a moron
Boring.
It's truly like you live in your own worlds. Post how fat your hands are.
I'll post my hands when you post your nose.
Curious that no one has mentioned phrenology except for the person claiming others are trying to prove it.
Lol come on anon, you don't have to dogwhistle when everyone who isn't a moron knows you are soft pitching phrenology outside of containment.
Phrenology is a specific thing that isn't related to anything anyone has said in this thread. Either you don't know what it is or you're being deliberately disingenuous. Probably both.
imagine saying nonsense like blacks don't have the same concept of time and that they are a different species and then back peddling that you aren't talking phrenology?
Like I said: you don't know what phrenology is.
>no true phrenologist
And no, you can't just pretend the scope of phrenology is wider than it is because you got caught using a word you didn't know.
See
It has a lot to do with this lively discussion, the size and shape of the cranium and, thus, the brain is one of the bluntest yet most-accurate factors determining intelligence.
Asians, blacks, pajeets on average observably have tiny skulls relative to their bodies, compared with relatively large white skulls that have large frontal lobes. Again, this is hard science which is politically incorrect but there's no way to effectively argue against it.
Phrenology was proto-science when it was practiced and is true science today, considering the observable functions of the frontal lobe, in particular, and the underdeveloped frontal cranial cavity in most human sub-species is a slam dunk.
Anon, sub Saharan African tribes also know that days become nights and then back into days...
There's a difference between planning to survive for 8 hours and planning to survive three to four months in a harsh climate
?t=16
they will for some sneakers.
The only cave diver i know is a mid-20s black software engineer with a 400 dollar consulting fee. He's also a pilot and saxophonist. Worked with him at AWS
>Black
>certified OWD, AOW, Nitrox, Rescue, Deep, ITT, AN/DP, Cavern, and Full Cave
(x) doubt
Well it's nice to hear that some blacks can be as insane and moronic as whites when it comes to wanting to kill themselves via spelunking.
Blacks are more insane and moronic when it comes to killing themselves. They’d rather die by shooting each other, from obesity/diabetes, drugs, etc. At least white people have hobbies, interests, ambition, and are active.
These types are rare but they do exist, usually growing up with both parents present and relentlessly forcing nurture to overcome nature, it's genuinely impressive.
>do something you'll regret five minutes from now"
That's outside the range of their functional memory, they don't feel regret for past actions, only indignation and confusion during present consequences.
I'm sure you'll have a peer review study, right?
I'm sure you're ESL
That was perfectly clear English, sped.
>peer review study
A study of peer review
>peer-reviewed study
A study reviewed by one's peers.
You can literally say a singular study is a "peer review" study you fricking non-American disinfo shill. That's not grammatically incorrect.
Yas the words you spoked were is perfect grammar, frick bloody stupid white basterd anon
>"I'm sure you'll have a peer review study, right?"
>I'm sure you WILL have a peer review study, right?
What makes you assume I'm in any position to conduct a study, especially for self-evident facts of nature?
>gets btfo about his apparent second language
I accept your concession.
>le self evident
Please walk into any collegiate or professional research setting and just say "it's my feefees bro" and see if you don't get laughed out of a room.
>denies centuries worth of evolutionary and cognitive science
Your appeals to popular pseudo-science have no power here
>denies centuries worth of evolutionary and cognitive
My brother in Christ, that is what YOU are doing.
So where's my phrenology elective at Oxford?
>so self-evident not a single university on earth teaches it
must be those pesky liberals down at Cambridge or Oxford and all those "woke" professors from 200 years ago, amirite?
>Ivan just learned about contractions today
It’s largely because most adrenaline sports or other weird shit tends to be some combination of a pain in the ass to engage in or expensive, meaning their historic demographics tended to be rural locals and middle class or above, both of which tended to be white in Europe and America.
Since there’s been no push for inclusivity, it’s just remained more or less the same despite the relative lack of barriers nowadays. I’ve literally never seen a black skydiver outside of tandems in fifteen years, for example.
That is a more rational explanation and makes sense to me.
>And I know this website is terribly racist but I've never seen a black person die from a caving accident. This always struck me as one of those things white people do because they think they are invincible kek.
This is correct. Only white people and east asians like to visit mountains or cave for fun (mainly mountains in the case of east asians) . The two higher races.
And only whites and east asians die in a cave they willingly went into
Or maybe that’s how you get to hyperborea. Why come back?
>Higher Races
>short
>small dicks
>bald by 12
Higher. RACES.
>cant breed
>cant protect their own things
whites and asians are a slave class
Black folk drown before reaching a cave
>And I know this website is terribly racist but I've never seen a black person die from a caving accident.
black people don't swim/cave lol. black people can't swim in 4ft of water, moron.
Black people aren’t ambitious, they aren’t explorers. There’s a reason why the white man was sailing the world and had been creating civilizations for thousands of years while Black folk were still living in mud huts. Plus they’re too poor to afford diving equipment and lessons anyway. Cave diving is a white person thing for the same reason exploring the world and creating society is a white person thing.
To add, societies have their tipping point. The middle eastern societies were the cradle of structured civilization and the first scribes and record keepers emerged from there. Eventually they reached their pinnacle and other groups who had adopted their ways, and improved it took over (not necessarily through wars and conquest). All of history moves in this direction. African countries never had this, likely cause humans migrated out of Africa. By the time they were in Sumer they had left behind their old ways and established societies. Human progress can be tracked geographically to. After the USA I’m willing to wager another empire emerged to lead innovation for the world
Stop typing, you aren't a historian and nobody takes you seriously.
Lying about? You can prove me right in seconds using israelite tools like google
Who said lying. You read like a Black person, impulsive and inaccurately. That’s why he told you to stop ~~*(typing*~~)
Seethe redditor, Black folk are subhuman
cope gay
they don't have it in them
How many mountains have you climbed?
This, imagine taking the credit for something your ancestors did 500+ years ago, lmao! /misc/cel sits in his little basement shitting on black people, meanwhile hundreds of thousands of black people are braving the elements and living off the land in Africa this very second. Africans unironically live a more adventurous life than the average /misc/tard, and it's hillarious they don't realize this.
>eating UN humanitarian rations and spreading AIDS only to be hacked to death by someone pretending to be a muslim is an adventurous life
It unironically is. They are living on the plains, braiving the elements, hunting their food, telling stories by the fire. Shit a /misc/tard wouldn't last 48 hours doing, if we're being honest.
>hunting their food
lmao you've clearly never been to subsaharan africa, it's a wonderland of gibs
What do you think Africa is like in current year buddy.
I know well over half of it is 3rd world still, with most of that half living savage lifestyles. Keep coping, the average African is living a more adventerous life than you are, /misc/cel.
>africa is a homogeneous country
thank you american education system
Only a tiny fraction of the african population still lives in anything resembling a hunter gather lifestyle. Even those people that still lives in tribal groups do so practicing farming, and cattle ranching, not hunting, that's extremely rare.
>doesn't know what adventure means
Hahahaha
>Says this moronic shit while also spouting WE WUZ KANGS and WYPEEPO OWE ME REPARASHUNZ FO DEM SLAVEREEZ AND MO MONEY FO DEM PROGRAMZ
Shasta, Reiner, St Helens, and Fuji.
In a way, civilizational collapse is like John Jones crawling into a underground dead end upside down that he had to exhale all the air from his lungs to fit into
When I lived in Orlando I would always see black guys doing insane motorcycle stunts all day. They die doing that a lot, probably more in a month than white spelunkers in several years.
Damn doing stunts a couple times is impressive enough but doing stunts all day? Wicked dude
>this website is terribly racist but I've never seen a black person die from a caving accident
If you were even slightly racist you’d know this is because most black people don’t know how to swim.
It's weirder than you think. White people have a crap ton of stupid courage. The see that funny grim reaper poster and think "At last! A challenge worthy of my skills." Even if they don't have any skills at all. Black people see the poster and think the actual grim reaper is stalking the cave waiting to chop them with a scythe.
Someone did a prank video a while ago that show them surprising white people right up to their face, when they did that to a black man he reflexively punched them -- I think if zombies are real we'll probably get more black survivors than white survivors in the initial outbreak because of that, blacks have seen zombie movies too and I think they'll be a lot quicker to accept zombies being real, just destroy brain, instead of tripping over the why and wherefores.
they'd be too busy picking up some new shoes to notice zombies
No, black people die drag racing with no seat belt on their way to the cave
>interesting thread derailed by a race baiting troll
Good work anon you giant fricking homosexual. Worst thing is you're probably not black or white you're one of those BBC spamming self hating Happas.
>calling polhomosexuals dumb is now "race bait"
truly is summer now.
>interesting thread
Take this shit to whatever board it belongs on, it certainly doesn't belong on Cinemaphile.
its the final frontier, we know more about space than we do backyard sinkholes
but there's nothing down there. Name one thing that has been found in a cave apart from fricking rocks (and shiny rocks don't count)
I was found in a cave when I was two weeks old
I rest my case.
Okay frick you. You got me.
>T. goblin
The Dead Sea Scrolls.
You're just trying to keep all the cave treasure for yourself you filthy cavejew. I'm not falling for your tricks I'm going to explore caves and be unsafe and take all your treasure.
Tons of pirate treasure
>Name one thing that has been found in a cave apart from fricking rocks
Corpses
Its like people driving waaaaay over the speedlimit, without any form of racing experience. They all think they are the exception on the rule
Stop driving 35mph in the passing lane, chink.
>webcomic
hello newbie
ITS MY HOLE! IT WAS MADE FOR ME!!!
I liked the one with the moron who kept going off and leaving the line, and then finally they lose sight of him but he had surfaced in some lightless air pocket and spent the next 2 weeks dying of starvation
got a name boss?
aww shit, here we go
These types of stories are extra horrific because if you drown at least you die relatively quickly even if it supposedly is one of the most painful ways to die but if you just get stuck down there like he did and have no light, no oxygen and no realistic way of getting anywhere so you just have to sit there in the dark and wait for someone to find you or for your body to get tired enough to die
I love the “creepy interesting” vids about cave diving. I’ve watched a ridiculous amount of them. It boils down to these guys being junkies, it’s as simple as that. You get to be in total zen while feeli by like your drunk off your ass. They all die because they are impaired when they run into a bit of trouble that always logically doesn’t sound like a big deal
>he signaled his partner to turn around
>his partner mistakenly thought they were stuck and panicked
>he accidentally inhaled water and died right there, forcing the other guy to have to traverse his best friends remains to get out
It’s legit always like this
What is it ~~*they*~~ are trying to hide from us in caves?
idk why this meme is so funny. i hate most memes.
How do you get to the isolated blobs of water?
That power is only attainable by those who have mastered their training. It is a power considered by most to be quite... Unnatural.
warp pipes like mario
you get an ability in a later area that lets you break those walls
Diving into the unknown is really good, it's about a bunch of Finnish divers retrieving their deceased friend from an extremely difficult cave
the only thing more moronic than exploring caves is cave diving. Everyone dies cave diving
my granddad died from smoking, I don't think he ever went in a cave
He thoroughly explored your grandmother's cavernous vegana.
the one about the malaysian football team that got stuck, with Viggo Mortensen
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for me, it's the one where the college kids go to this cave after a night of drinking.
best thing is that these caves are absolutely boring 99% of the times
it's literally just a dirt hole
i could understand it if you arrive in a huge cave with awesome rock structures or like a catacomb or something
This is a lie. This guy is probably a gatekeeping diver. These big complex deep caves have treasure chests and riches beyond comprehension at the bottom, it's what compels these people to keep diving despite clear risk of death.
big if true
The dudes that found those crystal caves caused immeasurable damage.
Now everyone thinks they're going to find some amazing at the bottom of a wet and moldy 6" wide passageway and not just more stone and cave slime.
One of the tards that went back for a sneaky selfie broiled alive with those crystals.
>broiled alive
?
>The Naica Mine or the Cave of Crystals is located over an intrusion of magma, which makes the temperature in the cave very hot and humid. Temperatures rise as high as 136 degrees Fahrenheit (58 degrees Celsius) and the air in the cave has 90 to 99 percent humidity.
ok, so did he die down there?
Overheating, also maybe drowning.
In that environment the insides of your lungs is the coolest surface around, so water is going to condensate inside them.
You need specialized equipment and a respirator to go inside that cave
>it's literally just a dirt hole
*rock hole
>woman leads 4 to their death
hmm
interesting that i lived not far from there. I have also been inside Nutty Putty where the guy got stuck upside before it was sealed
Did you die?
Actually kino.
this video is actually incredibly good storytelling
I hate when they drag out the story and add bad comedy. Im just trying to enjoy some spooky real life horror
this one is good
I pooped in a cave once. Actually it was more of a hole on a golf course, but I still consider myself a spelunker and put it on my resume.
More like a cave plunker
For me it’s that one diving hole in Nevada or some shit that has a small hole at the bottom that connects to a massive underwater ocean. Probably one of the more terrifying things I’ve considered. Who knows what’s down there.
>In 1965, Paul Giancontieri, a teenager who had jumped the fence with friends to go SCUBA diving in the hole, did not come back up. Another, David Rose, went down to find him, but did not come back up either.[7] Later efforts by five divers to find their bodies were unsuccessful.[8]
AAAAAA
>Who knows what’s down there.
Why dont any of these moronic homosexuals fricking send a underwater drone or some shit to explore it? Would also be able to navigate tighter passages humans cant pass.
drones arent fun
In the case of Devil’s Hole there’s some super rare fish at the entrance to the cave (I think it’s literally the only place on the planet that they exist) which means nobody can go in or explore it anymore.
So, we’ll never know what’s in that huge underground ocean besides 2 or 3 bodies of some people who disappeared in there a long time ago.
Wtf is their problem
Drones would be limited in a lot of ways that differ from humans. Drones in open water have far less shit for their power lifelines to get caught on. If you've ever ran cables through the walls of your house you'd know that even stuff that seems to be a straight shot can often take time and effort to navigate even with the proper tools. Drones can't work themselves free or navigate by touch like a human can. Drones also can't swim to minimize silt like a human can. They might work in some cases of cave exploring but it's more risk it gets caught and stuck. Then you have to think about the drone navigating back the way it came with a lifeline both infront and trying to drag what it behind it or simply trying to back up.
>power lifelines
battery
>navigation
LIDAR, optical flow, accelerometers
>silt
ultrasound, toroidal propellers
the problem is it's an endangered habitat so they don't usually allow foreign objects
Once you see what is down there you no longer want to be here. The beauties of what lies beyond the deep are unimaginable to those who have never been there. The way out is through. Will you choose to stay where you are, or will you venture into the deep and join us?
You’ll need to provide a half fishgirl sister before I fall for this one, Dagon
>A subsequent USGS exploration into Devil's Hole in 1991 by Alan Riggs, Paul DeLoach, and Sheck Exley entered what they found out to be a narrow tube rather than an 'Infinity Room' at 315 feet (96 m), descending to a depth of 436 feet (133 m). The team reported being able to see down to a depth of some 500 feet (150 m), without visualizing the bottom of the cavern.
>On March 20, 2012, a 7.4-magnitude earthquake in Oaxaca, Mexico, some 2,000 miles (3,200 km) away and centered roughly 12 miles (19 km) below the surface, caused an undulating 4 feet (1.2 m) rise and fall of the cavern waters, as appreciated by researchers working at Devil's Hole at the time. This provided further evidence that the Devil's Hole cave system was connected not only to the Death Valley Regional Groundwater Flow System, but possibly to even further-reaching underground water systems. The 1991 USGS dive team described the Devil's Hole as a "skylight" into the water table.
That's where all the cryptids are, like Nessie, and Champ, and a woman who would have sex with me.
>dive into a hole named Devil's Hole in a place called Death Valley
>die
What did they expect?
This shit reminds me of Subnautica where you go nonchalantly into a small cave only to find a massive interconnected system that stretches through the entire game with 3 different biomes.
I soifaced hard, which made me immediately understand the pile of bodies of people who died wanting to explore the unexplored
how do you not look at this map and think: "if i jerked off past '3rd restriction', i'd probably be the first human being to ever do that". does that not entice you? don't you want to spank it in every chamber in this literal shithole just to say you did?
no? well let me put it a different way:
i'll race you
>i'll race you
Sounds good bro! You first!
Source?
the taper end of 4th restriction might be perfectly formed to accept the shape of your dong. just imagine, the ultimate fleshlight. and it's down there waiting for you to take its virginity.
I went to Carlsbad Caverns once. The inside of the cave is really cool. But the mouth of the cave is swarming with birds that shit on everyone that went into it.
#1 rule of cave diving? You're going to die, get good insurance.
I imagine there are ways to cave dive that are generally safe but morons probably ignore those methods
Sanctum is a good movie that is incredibly unrealistic
>Thread about cave diving in film
>turns into /misc/tard baiting and depraved shitposting
I can't wait until the election is over and /misc/ tourists stop shitting up other boards
As said, Sanctum is entertaining, truly gives the feeling of clostrophobia, especially if you saw it in 3D. Can't speak to how realistic it is or not, though.
James Cameron has the patent for the full-face masks with comms for that movie, also some Aussie cave diver chick died during filming 🙁
I regret accidentally baiting people
Made in Abyss
dumb homosexual I love made in abyss and even I know its nothing like that, op watch it if youre into naked children and gore though
Was good.
🙁
I haven't watched it yet, was the divers body they were trying to recover in some super deep tight cave area? or was it actually in an open kind of zone or at least close to it?
why couldn't they just swim to the body and quickly attach a super inflatable to it?? just move it to an opening above no matter how far that opening is then set the inflate off or just frick off back to the surface and activate it remotely, i dont get it
it was stupid deep, like 850 feet, the first guy died trying to set a world record, and you couldn't get straight to it, the body was off to the side and the actual column was curved
What a bunch of gays. I walk further then 850 feet to the store every day, it’s not far
TIL that your store has a local atmosphere 25 times denser than ambient air
How do you know it doesn’t?
>going down cereal aisle
>ears popping, gasping for breath
>blood explodes when you leave
>I walk
Poorgay
If they made Ted the Caver into a horror fictional documentary that would be kino
What are some good scuba kinos? Or water kinos in general
>obviously excluding boat/submarine kinos
The Abyss
Thunderball
Into the Blue
Fool's Gold
Sahara
Dave Not Coming Back
Sanctum
The Deep
Sphere
Men of Honor
Thirteen Lives
The Rock
Last Breath
The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou
Ghosts of the Abyss
Atlantis the Lost Empire
How come everyone mentions Thunderball but never For Your Eyes Only?
I like the theme song they did for your eyes only
Thunderball underwater sequences were groundbreaking
also
>Roger Moore
>Thunderball underwater sequences were groundbreaking
Creature from the Black Lagoon did it first. The actor who played the gill-man in the underwater scenes went on to direct the underwater scenes in Thunderball.
> look, 10 minutes of blurry footage of people slowly flailing in the kankakee river
Thunderball is a shitty movie and I'm tired of pretending it's not. It's not a "bad" movie that you can laugh at like Diamonds are Forever or View to a Kill, it's just a boring slog of unmemorable shit. The film peaks during the opening song.
For Your Eyes Only, however, is pure kino and girls with crossbows are hot as frick
License to Kill has more and better scuba
>1 girl finds a cave
>tries to dive in it, passes out because is too cold and dangerous and ALMOST DIES
>thinks on this
>goes and gets a bunch of her friends
>somehow makes them agree to check out the cave with her
>reality ensues
it's weird the level of stunted survival instincts some motherfrickers have, even weirder when its juggled along with their adult mind and bounced between a whole group
They were mormons desperate for pussy.
Let that be a lesson to all men who chase women without thinking things through.
>getting into a underground cave
nope nope nope
>getting into a UNDERWATER cave
NOPE NOPE NOPE
Good think I only explore overground caves.
I hate the pressure when I'm 9 feet down in my pool for more than ten seconds. I can't imagine going 100+ feet down like some of these lunatics.
https://www.travelandleisure.com/attractions/deep-dive-dubai-worlds-deepest-swimming-pool
>Max Headroom
The Cave has some good underwater sequences. Most of it's out of water though.
I like Scary Interesting
https://www.youtube.com/@ScaryInteresting/videos
butthole contrarians on here probably hate him, but internet historians "Man in a cave" is pretty interesting if you just want a spelunking gone wrong story
>cave diving
jesus christ how horrifying, probably one of the worst ways to go. Underwater but you can't find your way back, slowly running out of air and panicking
its pitch black down there and due to how oxygen flows you can instantly just die if you try and surface and breath without your oxygen tank
REMINDER: GREEDY CAVE GOBLINS SHILLPOST ON Cinemaphile TO DISCOURAGE US FROM GOING INTO CAVES AND FINDING THEIR LOOT
>REMINDER: GREEDY CAVE GOBLINS SHILLPOST ON Cinemaphile TO DISCOURAGE US FROM GOING INTO CAVES AND FINDING THEIR LOOT
REMINDER: GREEDY CAVE GOBLINS SHILLPOST ON Cinemaphile TO DISCOURAGE US FROM GOING INTO CAVES AND FINDING THEIR LOOT
>REMINDER: GREEDY CAVE GOBLINS SHILLPOST ON Cinemaphile TO DISCOURAGE US FROM GOING INTO CAVES AND FINDING THEIR LOOT
k you convinced me, getting my equipment ready
did they ever figure out if the hopskinville goblins were aliens or just cave creatures?
>/misc/ just had to be in a thread about cave exploration
and every day, I'm reminded why they are mentally ill
its an easy derail sadly
Black guy started it
Are you 12?
Inches taller than you
The one where the guy heroically dives into a hole to retrieve the body of a boy who drowned, and then dies himself
The Cave is nice mindless horror fun
You WILL find the treasure
How come we don't have Piranhas vs Cave Divers yet?
the piranhas would win easy
Don't think people cave dive in the amazon, it would be murky as frick, like scuba diving in shit. They cave dive in cenotes a lot, but they don't have piranha's. And Piranha are harmless so long as you aren't bleeding, or a woman.
umm, that's been deboonked
they just attack anything that thrashes around
No, it's real. Indians don't let bleeding women bathe in the river for that reason, nature isn't politically correct.
https://www.practicalfishkeeping.co.uk/fishkeeping-news/the-truth-about-piranha-attacks/#:~:text=If%20you're%20a%20menstruating,for%20this%20reason%2C%20says%20Mol.
>Indians don't let bleeding women bathe in the river for that reason
I thought it was because they thought it was unhygenic
It doesn't seem hygienic tbh, I really can't imagine ever wanting to down on girl who has only ever washed her c**t in filthy muddy river water. Though to be fair I wouldn't blame her for not wanting to reciprocate orally on me if I had only ever washed in a dirty river.
Really makes me doubt/hope tribals where not big on oral sex, leave that for civilized folks who developed boiled water bathing.
God I fricking hate jeets
Indians also think cow piss is a panacea.
So the set up could be, someone release piranha into English rivers and they somehow adapted to the cold. Or if not England, some place with clear waters...I remember there was a cave diving spot where there were tunnels that actually crossed national borders, but it's super dangerous. and now wit Piranhas! Vampire Piranhas that have adapted to the darkness of the cave so they can be warded off by flashlights, but the flashlights have limited batteries.
Bigs life
13 Lives, a little movie with a great cast that went under the radar and does well at showing how ridiculously dangerous underwater cave diving is.
has nutty putty not been mentioned yet?
>“Hi, John, my name is Susie. How’s it going?”
>“Hi, Susie, thanks for coming, but I really, really want to get out,” said 26-year-old John Jones.
>Jones and three others had left their party in search of "The Birth Canal", a tight but navigable passageway with a turnaround at the end. Jones entered an unmapped passageway which he wrongly believed to be the Canal and found himself at a dead end, with nowhere to go besides a narrow vertical fissure. Believing this to be the turnaround, he entered head-first and became wedged upside-down.[10] The fissure measured 10 by 18 inches (25 by 46 cm) and was located 400 feet (120 m) from the entrance of the cave.[11] A large team of rescue workers came to his assistance. The workers set up a sophisticated rope-and-pulley system in an attempt to extricate him, but the system failed when put under strain, plunging Jones back into the hole.[12] Jones ultimately suffered cardiac arrest due to the strain placed upon his body over several hours by his inverted, compressed position.
>found footage cave diving
>the air supply is tracked in real time and tied to the length of the movie
Make it happen israeliteywood.
anything batman
>heh, I almost had to come to terms with being blatantly wrong about something, but lo, looks like you posted a spelling error 😉 don't you see, that means phrenology is real now!
47 meters down uncaged has some hot babes and cave sharks
I used to play cave explorer with my uncle
The Descent
>another thread ruined by the usual homosexuals
Every thread not directly related to television and/or film is going to be like this from now on. There will be no end to it, no respite, and no escaping it.
I like the screenshot you posted, anon, that's from the 2011 documentary "Empire of Dust", correct?
That doc was great, really well paced and edited, an easy watch while still being profound and utterly essential for understanding the world we live in.
Great recommendation, anon, I think I'll rewatch "Empire of Dust" (2011) again! Have a great day.
Why do you poltards always post this dude as if he wasn't the bad guy of the doc?
so whats the point of cave diving?
it's way more dangerous than normal caving for basically the same experience of looking at rocks
>so whats the point of cave diving?
A bunch of israelites dumped accurate scientific reports and data about racial disparities in intelligence into those caves, so a few brave and proud whites risk life and limb in the search for these lost treasures
>oh wow, 280 replies about a niche topic must be a thrilling thread
>100+ replies of /misc/ and one moron baiting them
This board is fricking dead
cave witches gonna git u
>a leftoid troony having a meltdown single-handedly got this thread to the bump limit
>literally obsessed with trannies
dial 8.
>trannies are in the room with me right now!
>trannies are in the room with me right now!
Correct, you are in this thread (metaphorical room).
Obsessed
Correct, you are obsessed with me.
>no actual proof of troony obsesion
I'm bored.
You mentioned them out of nowhere
So just like you did with phrenology. Curious!
Probably because you were talking about phrenology but the script you are given is that you aren't allowed to say it's phrenology to scare fence sitters off.
>you were talking about phrenology
I wasn't hence why you mentioning it out of somewhere hints at your obsession with it. Try to keep up, please.
You don't fool anyone, go back
Concession accepted.
>no u
I'm bored.
>t.
kek, the browns fricked off back to their discord server, we won, science-chads