anyone else rewatch this scene just to watch Steve Buscemi die?
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anyone else rewatch this scene just to watch Steve Buscemi die?
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i have never seen this show and frankly i'm glad
you aren't missing anything. hasn't aged well.
Yeah I watched it last year and it drops in quality in season 3 or 4 I don't remember, gets too silly. There's a point they give up on Christopher's character and that's when it nosedives
What do you mean give up? Chrissy was always a fricking moron, the consequences of his choices simply add up at a certain point.
After they killed his gf I thought it lead to him becoming the boss, but he instead just kind of fizzles out
Then you weren't paying attention to how moronic both of them were.
Tony laments early in the series that he knows that he joined the mob as it was degrading. Chrissy is fricking stupid and should never have been made, but the current crop of associates are all similarly trash, so they made the best of a bad situation and recruit him anyhow.
He goes on to get addicted to heroin, making him a target for FBI arm-twisting; he dates a moronic b***h and then makes her into the front man for a mob business, a role that should have gone to an expendable, not his future wife. Would Tony make his wife into a mob front? Would Carm accept being mob front? No.
Tony says that in the old days, Chrissy's drug use would have gotten him killed, but Tony's weak, and the mob is degraded, so Chrissy gets another chance.
Tony cleans up crying-b***h ass Chrissy's mess when he confesses to Tony that Aid is an informant. The old mob would have killed both. Chrissy gets another chance.
Finally, after three strikes, Chrissy's luck runs out when he crashes the truck.
Degradation.
>Tony laments early in the series that he knows that he joined the mob as it was degrading
What decade was the last good decade to be in the mob?
Probably post prohibition and before Apalachin meeting.
Prohibition was like the golden age, what about the 60s? Was mafia powerful back then?
Prohibition was the beginning with high profits, but the era itself was incredibly miserable and dangerous with gang wars out on the streets. During WW2 and after untl the 1954 it was the most profitable period with minimum notoriety and all the benefits. After Apalachin it was a tickling timebomb before american mafia was uncovered on national television and all ranks were purged from shitton of people.
What happened at Appalachia?
>More than 60 underworld bosses were detained and indicted following the raid. Twenty of those who attended the meeting were charged with "conspiring to obstruct justice by lying about the nature of the underworld meeting" and found guilty in January 1959. All were fined, up to $10,000 each, and given prison sentences ranging from three to five years. All the convictions were overturned on appeal the following year. One of the most direct and significant outcomes of the Apalachin meeting was that it helped to confirm the existence of a nationwide criminal conspiracy, a fact that some, including Federal Bureau of Investigation Director J. Edgar Hoover, had long refused to acknowledge.
>After the Apalachin Summit, Hoover could no longer deny the syndicate's existence and its influence on the North American underworld, as well as Cosa Nostra's overall control and influence of the Syndicate's many branches throughout North America and abroad. J. Edgar Hoover created the "Top Hoodlum Program" and went after the syndicate's top bosses throughout the country.
>As a result of the Apalachin meeting, the membership books to become a made man in the mob were closed, and were not reopened until 1976.
>the membership books to become a made man
"The books" are just a figure of speech right? They don't actually take notes on a criminal frickin conspiracy?
NTA but The Apalachin meeting was a meeting of high ranking mob members that the FBI either tapped or had informants in or raided or some shit. Basically they got caught with their pants down and it put the mob back in the main sights of the government
>tickling timebomb
Sounds painful.
You're a big guy
Anything pre-RICO/Giuliani.
Whatever the hell time Casino was based on seemed pretty based too. The mob inevitably collapses on itself because it only takes one weak unit to bury the rest.
>The mob inevitably collapses on itself because it only takes one weak unit to bury the rest.
This. Meanwhile the Mexican cartels saw what happened when the Americans invaded Afghanistan. With cells operating independently so even if the Americans caught a terrorist and tortured him for information, it barely made a dent to the organization at large, and the Mexicans copied that structure. If one cell is taken out, it's no big deal because they have a thousand other cells that remain unaffected and which have no clue what the other cells are doing
1980 things were on the downslope but overall things were ok from 1990 forward the mob has had to seriously lie low and switch to more white collar crimes. They can't have the same presence of street goons and small business shakedowns that they used to
>but he instead just kind of fizzles out
It died on the vine
He was a junkie frick.
it died on the vine
It's funny ton kills him because of getting cucked.
>they give up on Christopher's character
THEY DID-DENT
he remained loayle to his capo
>triphomosexual has moronic opinion
In other news, water is wet.
too heckin' un-PC for me, amirite?
cool it with the antisemitism
Yeah,i make a point to avoid shows that get spammed on 4ddit
Haven't watched a bad show since,thisplace really helps you know what to avoid.
So what shows do you like?
the sopranos,this is a sopranos thread
I'm asking the anons that are calling it a shit show
so you can downvote them? pathetic display, anon
Why are you thinking about reddit? I'm discussing tv shows, are you ok?
im thinking about twitter actually
anon
BLACKED.com of course
>OH N-
tf is with all the Blundetto threads?
that fricking animal
can't even say his name
don't do it to yourself phil
a boss carrying out a hit is absolutely moronic
I think it was an exception because he was family
I've never managed to catch how big of a family it was, because there are only like 6 recurring characters in their office and each captain is supossed to have his own crew, but then they have the same pair of Chrissy and Paulie going on most wet jobs even when both of them are capos later in the series. And even characters who were in 2 or 3 episodes have their own guys like Feech and Lorraine in season 5.
The show could afford to cast minions for Feech and Lorraine because, like you said, they were only in a few episodes anyway. Casting minions for each member of the main cast would have created the expectation among fans to see those minions all the time, and juggling that many recurring minor characters would have been a logistical pain in the ass. Having the capos do their own dirty work was unrealistic but it's in the same spirit as movie characters never wearing helmets in battle scenes; you just have to accept it for what it is and roll with it.
Missing the context makes you seem like a fricking moron.
there are 6 crews, about 50 made men split up in there that we don't see or barely see. then 150 associates. the strangest is barese who is the biggest crew and they are almost completely absent in the whole show. the New York homies had five times that in a family.
kind of. its also just because all of them are expected to generate their own value out there on their own for the most part unless the manpower is needed. none of the shit that chrissy and paulie do needs anything substantial, and they get jobs gifted to them because of their status. we also see a lot of shit relevant to tony or from his direct point of view. its still moronic we don't see many lower guys though.
He was sparing Blundetto of a far more gruesome and agonizing death by Phil's hands. That, and he needed to be taken care of anyway.
Maybe try watching the show before you think you're making some profound revelation. Dumbass.
Tony is the boss of a Jersey glorified crew. And if he didn't kill Tony B, Phil would have tortured him.
It was a mercy killing
Christopher deserved to die
Whenever I think about how Sopranos isn't a very well directed show and it's all made by old guys, I always think of Buscemi driving up to the farm while Van Morrison plays
He killed him because of the “m’boy are you fat” line
>mmmm'boy are you f-ACK!
what would tony have done if instead of
>mboy are you fat
he said he never had the makings of a varsity athlete
he wouldn't have killed him but he wouldn't aggressively ostracized him and anytime anybody brought him up in conversation his only response would be
>he's dead to me.
Then he'd blast him in the face with a shotgun.
Why, did he insult one of your father figures?
I rewatch that one scene where Steve Buscemi gets fricked in the ass
ha ha ha
same
The more I think about Sopranos, it wasn't a very coherent show, a part of it is that they wanted to make it feel more grounded in the sense of life itself being somewhat random but they genuinely went nowhere with most of their plotlines.
The show is funny and enjoyable, but not a masterpiece of storytelling.
>but they genuinely went nowhere with most of their plotlines.
That’s life. That’s what I liked about the writing. More often than not things don’t just “wrap up” in real life.
Sure but life is boring most of the time, good storytelling skips the boring parts or recalls them only to prop up the more interesting ones. Sopranos wasn't really boring per se with some exceptions, but you can tell characters arc were made up as they were going. There was no "big plan" to it, which reflects life, but is not great for telling a story.
>muh story
You know who had an arc? Noah.
Filtered.
No one has answered my question
N'Sync
>tell my fat wife I love her and I don't regret smoking
I hope those are also my final words
the random peppering of big pussy now and then in the seasons after he bites it was really cool, same goes for when tony has those dreams and sees richie/raphly/whatever
The coma episode and all the surreal shit in the Sopranos is what elevates it above being just some mob show
I do a full re-watch of the series every couple a tree years
>Tony regularly and violently lashing out against everyone around him
>gets away with it
would this happen, realistically?
essential skip episodes?
for me it's dgirl and the columbus ones
in my most recent rewatch i can't help but skip a lot of the therapy sessions and most scenes with AJ. god i can't fricking stand AJ
I wouldn't skip whole episodes but I would skip a lot of scenes if I had to rewatch the show
I was over most stuff with Livia towards the end before she died irl. Early on she was one of the best characters.
I don't skip episodes but like
i'll skip scenes or fast forward.
The whole bit where T goes to vegas and smokes mushrooms was annoying and skipped that which was like half the episode
one and only episode i find skipworthy is the one where tony goes and meets his dads mistress that jr was obsessed with
Absolutely same here, though it's fun hearing a Linkin Park song at the club at the end.
Kill your
self
I skip the entire Season 1, it's too ridiculous for me. I love the rest
I hate the one before he kills Tony B, 40 out of 55 minutes is a dream sequence and its completely worthless
A hit is a hit
Most of the therapy scenes after Livia dies are pointless and are skipped. The pilot also gets skipped because of it's inconsistency (Tony being the boss already and no mention of Jackie Sr) and Goodfellas tier shenanigans (that whole car chase scene). Also the episode where Carmela goes to Paris, yeah I skipped all of those scenes.
>dgirl
EXCUSE ME? EXCUSE SHE IS A VICE PRESIDENT! YOU FRICKING butthole
Silvio was written the safest in the whole cast. He always was with Tony, always loyal, always civil comparing to others. Tony never really lashed out on him that much. And he had breasts at the close call all the time.
Sil was like the crews HR dept
Doesn't he at one point go behind tonys back and authorize patsy or chrissy to rip off the shit from the construction site? I never got that. Is he just fricking with him or testing his boundaries or something?
Tony put Chrissy in charge of Paulie's stuff while he was in the can. Sil knew this was out of pure nepotism since there were more qualified guys like Patsy who could have handled Paulie's business.
How did that Russian guy survive getting shot in the back of the head and climb into a tree to hide?
he didn't. the members only guy came off screen and finished him off
>was supposed to be the one who carm cheated with
>actor gave away too many spoilers in interviews
>get sent back to Italy as punishment and written out of the show
It's a better fate than Tony murdering Furio like what was probably originally going to happen at least
It worked to the shows benefit that they booted some supposed major characters for fricking around. Just imagine how shit the show would have been if Livia's actress didn't die and the whole show was just Tony beefing with his mom
>the whole vito runs away to be a homosexual arc
way to turn a 10/10 show into a 7/10 one
You can tell they made this shit up later, he wanted to frick Adriana earlier in the show, then suddenly they make him a gaylord that doesn't have sex with women whatsoever
What was the point really
i thought it was the actors idea because they were gonna kill him off at one point or he wanted a bigger part or something
I think it was genius.
All the liberals had to sympathize with him because he’s gay but he’s also a murderous mobster and is only really being persecuted because he’s in that life.
My gaylord loving liberal friends honestly didn’t know how to feel.
>he wanted to frick Adriana earlier in the show
closeted gay dudes are the ones who talk the most about how straight they are and how they want to frick women, they're trying to hide
Lmao Vito was in the show as an entirely random mope named Gino, in the bakery back in S1 or 2 also.
Good eye he's hard to spot.
You're joking but the "my fawtha' guy didn't spot him out in the open street, in daylight
>he wanted to frick Adriana
he never did, he was just breaking balls to maintain his heterosexual character in front of the guys, you braindead frick
>he wanted to frick Adriana earlier in the show
Best part is that they're cousins
they're so far removed by now tonto's a closer cousin to you
Christ you tards are dumb as frick
go frick yourself. they're strong as a bull. handsome.
I woldn't believe for a minute, that this homies didn't rape Lorraine before killing her.
They weren't some desperate Black person zoomwr filth like you, they could get pussy whenever they wanted.
>*rapes you*
They aren't desperate for pussy like you are.
they're not incel homosexuals, they can get pussy easily
It's sloppy to do that, give the chick a chance to bite your dick off or blindside you, but I felt the same way Silvio killed Adriana like she's arguably the hottest piece of ass in the show and was desperate to live.
Blundetto? More like Blundeado.
>AND WE'LL SEND YOU GLAD TIDINGS FROM NEW YORK
what a fricking show
I rewatch that scene just for the van Morrison
>you and tony egg again?
This show has a lot of flaws but he worst part is how something will happen one episode and then carry on 2 episodes later, and 4 months had passed
Did anyone kill the horse or was it an accident
Having a random Russian prostitute be a murder accomplice seems like a bad idea right?
I fricking love the Italy episode, its a hackneyed tv trope to send the cast on vacation, but the whole side plot about Paulie is gold. Discovering that to real Italians he's just any other ignorant American who doesn't understand the culture and his attempts at integrating is met with eyerolls. His whole Italian identity is shaken, it's hilarious
>When he's disgusted at authentic Italian cuisine and asks for "macaroni and gravy"
Kek
Steve used to be really into the No-wave scene in NYC, he'd go to shows and hang out with fricking SWANS.
Kek I just can't imagine Steve Buscemi in the crowd listening to this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkfpjqDJRik
nah I like this scene though
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skip all the stuff with monsignor jughead
skip all the melfi
skip all the aj after season 4
skip the spec house
skip the furio in love with carm
mmmmBoy are you fat
what did you say?
>says it again
he wasnt scared of Tony at all
THEY WERE CHILDREN TOGETHER
Its really a shame that Sopranosposting fell victim to the same groups that regularly coopt Cinemaphile memes.
you can just say ESLs.