It's because it's written poorly by some sensationalist. Tell me why would Optimus Prime, a guy coming from a race of robots that turn into genderless objects, doesn't reproduce through sex, is said to be millions of years old, and is the wisest of said species, fricking confused by a "nonbinary" transformer and had to get told they're pronouns are "they/them". The fact this character also has to say "my pronouns are they/them" rather then everyone just saying it in casual conversation like "Oh they went out on a mission.", isn't normalizing the idea but rather accepting the concept is foreign and odd, even to an intelligent species.
>doesn't reproduce through sex,
Never officially confirmed or denied.
Prime was so mid that when normies got exposed to "Unicron is the Earth" with The Last Knight they violently rejected it so hard the film bombed. And I mean it since even though the film has so many flaws one of the first things people complain about is how fricktarded that is.
11 months ago
Anonymous
That's not even the problem, it's that they did absolutely nothing with the premise after season 1.
Where as Japan did two whole series about the consequences about Unicron being merged with Earth and it was a solid premise even thought he series were effectively filler.
11 months ago
Anonymous
of course I'm just starting with their biggest frick up since you don't fricking open the series with the fricking final boss as season 1 villain.
Also their poor management of budget and resources resulted in a show that looks spectacular but like they fight the same two dudes copypasted for most of the show.
And then they had to kill characters off to save on paying the VAs. Airachnid is one of the worst wastes of resources only dwarfed by Cliffjumper.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>And then they had to kill characters off to save on paying the VAs. Airachnid is one of the worst wastes of resources only dwarfed by Cliffjumper.
Cliffjumper was clearly by design meant to die, my bigger issue was wasting so many Decepticons with no Autobot casualties or any real effects. Bulkhead should've stayed crippled and evened the odds at least.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah but the problem is that they not only made a whole model for a guy that was meant to die on the first episode but the also hired The Rock. Cue not long after they are seriously strapped for cash. At least they had the decency to recycle Skyquake's model. Tho it just underscored how moronic it was to kill Skyquake in the first place.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Cliffjumper got recycled as Tailgate, but not much happened since he died long ago
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Where as Japan did two whole series about the consequences about Unicron being merged with Earth
Please
Spoonfeed me
Prime wanted to tell a deep and captuvating story, but it suffered from a disjointed pace and expensive VAs, which lef to wasting everything interesting the show had going for it: Cliffjumper, MECH, Breakdown, Airachnid... RID2015 was a Con of the week show that took itself way less seriously and allowed for some comfy episodes. Even if it's not BW or Animated, I'll take ut over anything Havre has recently put out, especially ES.
It did however do just that. It was a deep story that told of the interconnected fates of mankind and Cybertronian. >MECH showed that greed, evil and thirst for power wasn't only decepticon but also human. >the finale showed all sentient was life capable of change >arcee, jack, niko, bulkhead etc showed the love and care they have for each other despite race. >Optimus sacrifice showed the responsibility to live up to his title and power. >Rachet being upset he made no effort to learn human anatomy when Raph got hurt influenced him to stay on earth.
I can go on. It has flaws but it is without a doubt of the best iterations of the franchise. I was captivated.
Oy schizo! When did I shit on RID. I am capable of praising Prime without bringing up other renditions unlike you and the rest. I love Rescue bots (hated the hiatus). I view Prime as great cos its aesthetics was more pleasing, more complex in writing ( utilizing great foreshadowing, dialogue, character interactions) excellent story boarding and music.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Alright I value your opinion then. It's just that the constant bashing that RID gets for nonsensical reasons gets grating. I once had a guy complain about certain characters being reused models as if that didn't happen on Transformers all the time with Prime being a noteworthy offender.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Honestly, I love Prime, despite season 3 being weak, but I couldn't sit through most of RiD. It's probably just because of the difference in age group that they're targeting, though
11 months ago
Anonymous
I honestly thought the third season of Prime was the best one since it had a clear focus from start to finish and the action was solid.
11 months ago
Anonymous
That's fair, I just felt that some of the characters got worse since their arcs had nowhere else to go, like starscream. I was also disappointed by how fast the predacons just got droppped, with all but predaking dying.
>MECH showed that greed, evil and thirst for power wasn't only decepticon but also human.
Too bad they were a total waste. >arcee, jack, niko, bulkhead etc showed the love and care they have for each other despite race.
You can say that about any transformer series with humans in the cast >Optimus sacrifice showed the responsibility to live up to his title and power.
Optimus sacrificing himself is like Starscream betraying Megatron, it's not special.
being upset he made no effort to learn human anatomy when Raph got hurt influenced him to stay on earth
That is immediately discounted in the followup final film where Ratchet ends up returning to and staying on Cybertron.
>he says so when every single TFP thread has the either Jack and Arcee shipping or posting Miko doing lewd stuff
and Rescue Bots fans are even more degenerate even though the show is pretty damn good.
> made even worse by the fact it's a prime Sequel.
and how does that make it worse? and don't give that "they revived Optimus" because that's full of shit, Optimus only died because of an asspull.
>Optimus only died because of an asspull.
In retrospect, they really should have killed him off at the start of S3, to give the story some actual stakes and impact.
oh no Unicron somehow returned
brb gonna go grab the allspark
I'll use the allspark container to trap unicron in a jar
oh right I put the actual allspark in my spark chamber because I didn't bring another container
anyway down the hole weee
>Unicron never died nor went anywhere
they put him in a vegetative state to save earth. He sent his power and psyche into Megatron.
>brb gonna go grab the allspark
The allspark was told to him by the dead prime back when he had the saber. We all know damn well it was gonna exist in this Iteration.
>I'll use the allspark container to trap unicron in a jar
It was stated it was an indestructible jar capable of containing allspark (life energy) so why not Unicron (prure evil anti life energy)?
>oh right I put the actual allspark in my spark chamber because I didn't bring another container
The jar was created by one of the prime to hold it. Probably using the Forge Hammer. They don't just have another lying around. The hammer was destroyed by PedoKing.
You know well that the real asspull is that they brought back Unicron just at the end so they would have an excuse to kill off Optimus. The third season ending capped off the series in a better manner.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I believe they intended to kill Optimus off but I don't believe It was on asspull. Everything made sense. Just cos it made sense doesn't mean I liked it.
In a perfect world
>The final season would be 25 episodes instead of half that. > Shock wave and Starscream would be the new antagonists >Optimus would die fighting off PredaArmy >Bumble would be deemed a prime before that, tasked with retrieving the allspark. >Shock tries to kill bee and claim it to be the savior of Cybertron to lead the new, prehistoric and homecoming life. >Stopped by Predaking: leads army into being civilized and peaceful. >Bee and King use allspark to start life as equals.
Also >The third season ending capped off the series in a better manner.
True.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Fine, I admit that it makes sense within the context of the show. But it was incredibly clunky and Unicron shouldn't have been brought back or at least not as an excuse villain to give Optimus a reason to die. I won't dispute the Allspark, I actually liked that they hid it well enough that the show didn't become a tussle over the Allspark.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Shock wave and Starscream would be the new antagonists
Read the Marvel comics recently and was shocked how much I enjoyed their dynamic. I guess it makes sense with Shockwave's logic balancing with Starscream's usually chaotic nature. I want to see it done more.
Simon Furman's dedication to partnering them up across his G1 story is also oddly sweet, I wouldn't have expected that from him.
>not as virtue-signal-y of course, but still).
that's the problem. They're not using it to explore alien robot conceptions of gender. They're doing it to show the alien robot is just like them.
>i changed my pronouns >now my life is in danger!
Do nonbingays really think like this? Getting trolled online is not oppression.
Also, you can tell these characters are agenda driven rather than story driven because they have the most milquetoast personalities ever. They are always depicted as these wide-eyed, saccharine archetypes to be as inoffensive (and thus boring) as possible.
Again, these are ROBOTS. And it's hardly even the first time they've done this in any TF media (not as virtue-signal-y of course, but still).
Why would the Cybertronian language even have gender pronouns? They are sexless organisms. They use male/female pronouns when speaking English because they/them was never a thing when referring to a single person until recently it makes no sense for this autobot to "always" know its pronouns.
Holy mother of heavy handed. >only feel safe with ... other non-binary people
What the frick is this. I'm a guy but that doesn't mean being around other guys, regardless of character, is where I'm safest. You can tell the writers aren't actually writing characters here, they're writing their own personal fantasy where they're so victimized they can feel the way the girl does but unconditionally loved and accepted instantly like what happens there. Pitiful and patronizing.
>LITERAL ROBOTS
There's your problem. You think TFs are beep boop bots when they've been far more then that since the very beginning. The fricking crux of this franchise is red truck guy vs guy with a bucket on his head.
Making other people use special self-selected terms for you is making them walk on eggshells.
You think Kup's got time for that shit? Fricker's been everywhere and seen everything, he'd got real shit to remember instead of playing pretend with some bot.
And no, your feelings aren't worth remembering your pronouns.
>Making other people use special self-selected terms for you
Like a name??
11 months ago
Anonymous
Never seen someone go into an autistic meltdown for not knowing someone's name immediately.
But thank you twitter moron for not understanding why Pronouns exist in the language period. They exist do you don't NEED to constantly use a name in conversation.
Non-binary is the 'walking on eggshells' gender because some random stranger nor telepathically knowing whatever made up gender term they are using always causes them to freak out.
Never seen someone go into an autistic meltdown for not knowing someone's name immediately.
But thank you twitter moron for not understanding why Pronouns exist in the language period. They exist do you don't NEED to constantly use a name in conversation.
You guys are making a bigger deal over it than the characters.
11 months ago
Anonymous
The writers made it a big deal by including this moronic drivel.
Earthspark feels like a Netflix cartoon first. Transformers second. I literally do not care about humans in Transformers media.
Yeah, Nothing wrong with pronoun.
It's literally just gonna be like asking someone for their name, that's it.
Pronoun matters
I always treat everyone as a he and nobody gave a frick. I really don't think all the pronouns shit matters to people that aren't addicted to social media.
It's because it's written poorly by some sensationalist. Tell me why would Optimus Prime, a guy coming from a race of robots that turn into genderless objects, doesn't reproduce through sex, is said to be millions of years old, and is the wisest of said species, fricking confused by a "nonbinary" transformer and had to get told they're pronouns are "they/them". The fact this character also has to say "my pronouns are they/them" rather then everyone just saying it in casual conversation like "Oh they went out on a mission.", isn't normalizing the idea but rather accepting the concept is foreign and odd, even to an intelligent species.
Presumably Optimus was just unsure about what Nightshade goes by and didn't want to offend. But the line that occurred in could have worked using Nightshade's name. Generally the writing feels awkward regarding Nightshade's identity as if the writers also want to avoid anything that could offend. The episode where Nightshade bonds with Tarantulas has no involvement with that beyond Nightshade's typical self-introduction and gives a stronger feel for their personality and the episode has a very good sense of mood, .
>the plot literally stops so characters can get on a soapbox and talk about shit no one cares about in a giant robot series >you're a b***h for thinking this is dumb and pointless
I hate you disingenuous Cinemaphilemblr gays so so much.
One day, I want to draw the FoC Insecticons taking turns on railing Nightshade, who is thinking to itself "I can't believe they're still misgendering me."
I don't mind Nightshade being non-binary, just the way it was handled was so ham fisted. It would have made way more sense for Nightshade to meet Tarantulas then the human girl before deciding to be non-binary.
Instead it feels like a scene in his first episode was deleted because it just has the bratz doll correct Optimus Prime. It was just awkward how it was handled, especially since it was never bought up again.
A shame because Nightshade is probably my favourite of the Terrans, but whenever the show stops to get political, his standing dips below Twitch's.
Also the episode with him and tarantulas was great.
https://i.imgur.com/FvNRhuS.jpg
It's nice to know others liked this show. It always seemed weird that Prime fans gave Rescue Bots a free pass but then hated on RID despite it being one of the few times TF had done a sequel show.
That’s what bothers me, Nightshade just knows theyre non binary and what they them are, not even an arc of discovery. The series bible apparently had it originally they didn’t see a point to gender because theyre robotic, I think it would’ve been better that way
>but whenever the show stops to get political
????
a character being nonbinary isn't political
11 months ago
Anonymous
It absolutely is given that it’s a completely made up, nonsensical concept only held up by c**ts who spend their lives on twitter
11 months ago
Anonymous
>a completely made up, nonsensical concept
THIS JUST IN: transforming humanoid car people as a concept is political
Holy kek
11 months ago
Anonymous
Good reading comprehension, moron, clearly I wasn’t talking about non binary and instead was talking about transformers themselves. Call me when people start trying to identify as Optimus prime and have you arrested if you tell them otherwise
11 months ago
Anonymous
People name their children after characters all the time. Some countries like Sweden even have laws that made to prevent doing that.
11 months ago
Anonymous
How the hell is that even remotely close to the same as people trying to tell you “oh I’m not a man or a woman I’m super special teehee!” and trying to shove that shit down your throat and force you to comply with it?
11 months ago
Anonymous
You will never be Optimus Prime, so give up.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Time to transform and 41% I guess
11 months ago
Anonymous
Leftists truly have the best comebacks.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>and trying to shove that shit down your throat
Jfc dude calm the hell down
11 months ago
Anonymous
Optimus takes no prisoners. As someone who watched all 5 canon TF media (the Bay movies), he yells "I'LL KILL YOU!" and slices decepticons up.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Meanwhile the red white and blue trucker robot doing a John Wayne impression and his allies fighting against collectivists who claim all resources in the name of their nation and have lots of identical looking guys is apolitical.
11 months ago
Anonymous
That’s one hell of a stretch. Let me guess, you think bowser in Mario is an allegory for the republicans or something
11 months ago
Anonymous
No. Mario and Bowser are fictional characters playing archetypes that hail from Feudalism or earlier.
I think the problem is that this scene had to happen rather than the character being whatever. Why do we need to have someone EXPLAIN this shit? Just don't bring it up, Optimus didn't come down from heaven and say "I AM OPTIMUS PRIME, HE/HIM PRONOUNS".
>That's the most pathetic attempt at a strawman I have ever seen.
You say this then do the exact same kind of thing by calling anyone who disagrees with you a troony.
None of what you qaid makes that shitty comic not sensical. If you just refer to some guy by she right in front of him, he'll either ask "Who are you talking about?" or "Are you moronic?", because that pronoun and gender theory will just be nonsense to him. He won't play your game, he'll just see you for the freak you are.
>My pronoun
Pronouns exist for the people who use them, not the thing's they're referring to.
Otherwise you'd have to correct people when they don't use "your" pronouns in other languages.
Funny how these morons never consider other languages
"Gender neutral" pronouns just don't work in gendered languages like Spanish, that's how you get shit like "Latinx" which is impossible to pronounce
I'm actually having the time of my life seeing right wing snowflakes do exactly what they accused SJWs of doing. They're so fricking triggered. Thank you Nightshade.
Female autobots existed even in the original show before the movie. They're made & not born yes but they still have sexual separation. What's stupid is making them gay. Especially for each other & not their tiny humans.
RiD2015 is one of the more tactful sequels I've seen in this series overall
Compare that to Japan just nuking last season's developments and cast in late G1 or fricking Beast Machines or both Superlink/Energon(The original audio does NOT save it) basically dropping the ball 10 episodes in.
I am once again saying it- Prime is Zeta and RiD15 is ZZ, a perfectly fine series people shit on for not being what they expected.
>Superlink/Energon(The original audio does NOT save it) basically dropping the ball 10 episodes in.
I still can't believe how the show was constantly stumbling for something to tell due to the bloated 50 episodes format. To think it could have been semi-decent had the show been at least 20 episodes shorter: the writing could have been more focused and the animation budget not spread so thin.
I think the sad thing was that I was around when Superlink was coming out and the early episodes actually made people really hyped up. And it just falls apart. The special episode and the occasional cel animated scenes were intriguing but 20 years later it's just a mess in the end.
I'd still argue that it's less harmful than Beast Machines and the Machinima/RoosterTeeth shows because at least Energon just becomes white noise as it goes on.
>be Energon anime >cg robots look like shit and move like literal toys, writing destroys any goodwill built up by Armada, easily in the bottom 3 TF shows >50 episodes of pure drivel with few and far between fun moments >be Energon Dreamwave comic >holy kino, keeps up the momentum from the Armada comic, has one of the best returns of Megatron of all time, easily top 5 TF comics >canceled after 10 issues
IT'S NOT FAIR IT'S NOT FAIR REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I guess they were going for headphones, but I feel the smooth face would look more striking of they flipped the yellow bit down over the mouthplate like a football helmet.
>bring back Starscream and Soundwave >no Shockwave at any point
They really did some random, annoying, and boring shit in this followup show. It squandered potential with the Fallen and the corruption on Cybertron because of shitty storytelling.
>It squandered potential with the Fallen and the corruption on Cybertron because of shitty storytelling.
t. the dude that actually liked the Machinima/RoosterTeeth shows
>be robot Mengele >the Deceptions lost decisively >peace out
Honestly can’t see why he’ll risk getting arrested, this dude has a rap sheet of war crimes spanning eons
Are you serious? Look at him and tell me there is no God.
I completely get pushing movie Bee, he's an adorable murder machine
What I find funny if Hasbro thinking that translates into pushing G1 Bumblebee, who's a totally different character. People like movie bee because he's mute and has the radio thing, G1 Bee is just generic kid appeal guy.
That said I like that one artist who ships CharlieBee but draws him RiD style. It's like they love him but know his movie self is a bit creepy drawn realistically.
Completely different tone, completely forgets about the human characters in prime(It would have been cool to see Jack, Miko and Raf grown up or be a couple years older then what we saw in prime.) Ignores shit that Prime had, IE the Fallen not being a bad guy but suddenly hes evil, completely ruins Optimus death in Predacons rising, idc if you dont like the movie, Optimus should have stayed dead cause his death was to leave room for Cybertron to not be lead by a prime and even then bringing him back what ruined RID 2015 for me, the fact there was no Optimus, bringing back Prime was a big mistake in my opinion that most likely happened due to higher ups demanding Optimus to return as a main character.
over all rid 2015 is a decent standalone transformer cartoon, but as a sequel to prime. a show that is widely considered by the wider fanbase to be one of not thee best TF cartoon since Beast Wars and Animated, rid 2015 was basically doomed to fail due to expectations from the wider fanbase but also because it doesint fit with Prime, Prime was a more mature show that was designed to appeal to new Kids and older fans, while RID 2015 was meant to be kid friendly, which is probably one of the worst mistakes Hasbro made show wise.
>brings up Optimus revival >also brings up the Fallen
The only thing worth complaining is the tone but that doesn’t make it shitty. Fair point about the kids, however.
> over all rid 2015 is a decent standalone transformer cartoon, but as a sequel to prime. a show that is widely considered by the wider fanbase to be one of not thee best TF cartoon since Beast Wars and Animated, rid 2015 was basically doomed to fail due to expectations from the wider fanbase but also because it doesint fit with Prime, Prime was a more mature show that was designed to appeal to new Kids and older fans, while RID 2015 was meant to be kid friendly, which is probably one of the worst mistakes Hasbro made show wise.
The cartoon had better ratings while it was airing and the toyline sold better. I am not shitting you.
>Prime was a more mature show that was designed to appeal to new Kids and older fans, while RID 2015 was meant to be kid friendly, which is probably one of the worst mistakes Hasbro made show wise.
It had much higher ratings and kid appeal so it was a good decision on their part. Also lots of toyetic designs.
It's less a sequel and more of another story that takes place in the same universe. Which I think is fine. The events happening aren't as grim or dire as Prime. They saved Cybertron and this is the post-game.
I could kind of see "Unicron is Earth" working if even despite the massive casualties from him simply moving his body parts to transform, they use bullshit """logic""" to justify why things can still be alive by saying his body still has gravity and an atmosphere, and show the bodies of land and water still on the outside parts of his body (like along his forearms and shins and such). This would only work for bayformers and not Prime though, Earthicron is cool as frick concept but I can't think of any decent way it could end except mass exodus or stopping him before he fully awakens, which just isn't that satisfactory.
I have only watched very few transformers series but I remember seeing some of this on TV and it felt like it was the usual generic children cartoons with a transformers skin. The characters were acting and speaking ins the same jokey, corny way they do in most cartoons aimed at very young children. Am I missing something?
What gets me about RID 15 is how deserted Earth tends to feel. Every other factory or dam or prototype train is conveniently automated and not a soul around for a hundred miles. At least TFP is primarily set in what can be considered remote and sparsely populated
It feels like it should be set in the far future between the rebuilt Cybertron with a large population and characters who seem to have been born post-war and the massive increase in Earth technology compared to Prime, but then Rescue Bots claims the distance is small by having characters from RiD15 show up and that show just has a 3 year time skip.
RiD is easier to sit through once you get rid (heh) of preconceived notions and understand its tone is completely different from Prime's. I dropped it earlier because I just wanted more Prime but going back to it knowing what it's like, I can appreciate it better.
Hell no. It's one big mood whiplash compared to Prime. >The more serious tone is replaced with goofiness and Decepticon-of-the-week formula and sticks to it for a a very long chunk of the show. >A crushing majority of Decepticons are now animalistic with new ones being normal Cybertronians you can count on your fingers. >Plot...non-existent...in fact it's a couple of stories strung together with no actual connection and transition. At least Prime had this thing with the stories in the plots being connected to each other one way or another.
> Plot...non-existent...in fact it's a couple of stories strung together with no actual connection and transition. At least Prime had this thing with the stories in the plots being connected to each other one way or another.
lmao smooth brain homosexual
It literally doesn't exist. There is no bigger plot here and none of the stories are interconnected with each other. The stories are literally separate from each other. With Prime one story led to another. There was a link that created a continuity. Here it's only present like for one time and even then the next story after that is resolved in a short time.
So yeah. There is no bigger plot. No bigger theme with it.
You fricking didn’t watch shit because RID does a far better job at tying up its plot threads while in Prime they are all scattered and loose until season 3 when they bothered to hire someone to oversee the plot. You literally described the shows the opposite way.
I watched it from first to last episode and it felt like glued together.
Frick no, I described it as it is.
The ongoing plot in Prime feels like it's made up as it goes along. Oh no the Autobots found an unstoppable McGuffin we're doomed! Lucky we can just fly to cybertron and find another unstoppable weapon to counter it in 5 minutes next episode!
took to much of a friendly approach personally and only really sat thru first few episodes.
still think prime and animated are peak modern transformers and i guess to a point that netflix one as well but i don't remember much about it
>every bot: robot looking, even shitty ones like "Thrash" >Arcee: uhhh lets just make a female character and make it look like she's wearing clothes, can't take any chances here haa haa
Isn't it strange how the pronouns are the only thing people talk about from Earth Spark? Not even Autobot Megatron,the Blaxican kids being annoying, or the fact that it's supposedly a sequel to G1. It's almost like the show itself must be boring trash that's really not worth watching.
What I find it more amusing is how much praise it’s getting on twitter when it feels way more childish than RID which gets derided on twitter for that bullshit reason.
Is it by the same people though? You could be comparing people who are mid-20s presently and didn't like RiD15 when it came out to people who are in close to the target age demo for Earthspark now.
Autobot Megatron's been done, the kids aren't notably worse than other examples of tagalong kids and seem to be phasing out anyway, and "sequel to G1" is false since it blatantly contradicts the way the 1984 cartoon depicted things and has an incompatible setting. It simply uses it for nostalgia-looking past similar to Animated using clips as part of an Autobot propaganda film.
Even alternative example talking points aren't good.
It helps that they can build it in from the grounds up and decide how far they want Megatron to have gone before hand.
That said I'm glad they're inplying that he was indeed an butthole beforehand who built the Decepticon attitude he's turned against now rather than pushing the blame on other characters.
That he can actually interact with his former followers this time round makes me glad for it.
>It's almost like the show itself must be boring trash that's really not worth watching. >A few morons ree at thing that barely matters means the show is bad.
Damn, guess 90% of all media is shit then,
> it's supposedly a sequel to G1
It's not...not even remotely. That's just some nonsense some butthurt youtuber dreamt up to try and discredit the show. Heck the show goes out of it's way to distance itself from G1.
>Cybertronians show up on earth in the 1980s >The Allspark is a factor >Megatron changes sides also he turns into an Osprey not a Walther P38 >Starscream has blue optics >Skywarp and Frenzy are girls >Earthspark's canon is vastly different to the canon of the G1 show
Honestly I think a better theory is that the G1 show exists in-universe of Earthspark. They even have comics that use the G1 designs.
I reckon they might pull a tmnt and in the future have a crossover with G1 characters. I think that was something that was planned for Cyberverse that didn't end up coming to fruition.
No. That show was fricking dreadful and for stupid babies. The writing also made no sense.
Optimus Prime should not need to be trained. He is a Veteran of millions of years of warfare. Bumblebee and Optimus would never disrespect each other the way they did in that show.
Strongarm!
She fricks Russell
>Russell
Odd way of spelling 'Sideswipe'
> Sideswipe
Russell allowed him to have sex with her once, just to remind him who is the man.
Does she frick human men? Please say yes.
Why would you make her thin
Because he fears the strong woman.
>doesn't reproduce through sex,
Never officially confirmed or denied.
Why do you want to know that?
So she can imagine being cucked by superior Cybertronian women.
FRICK THE POLICE
God do i miss her.
Is absolutely adorable.
Best damn transformers in 15 years
That's Prime
Prime has good episodes but is overall mid as frick
>mid
Zoomers get out
Bruh I am as old as millennials get
PRIME WAS MID
Prime was so mid that when normies got exposed to "Unicron is the Earth" with The Last Knight they violently rejected it so hard the film bombed. And I mean it since even though the film has so many flaws one of the first things people complain about is how fricktarded that is.
That's not even the problem, it's that they did absolutely nothing with the premise after season 1.
Where as Japan did two whole series about the consequences about Unicron being merged with Earth and it was a solid premise even thought he series were effectively filler.
of course I'm just starting with their biggest frick up since you don't fricking open the series with the fricking final boss as season 1 villain.
Also their poor management of budget and resources resulted in a show that looks spectacular but like they fight the same two dudes copypasted for most of the show.
And then they had to kill characters off to save on paying the VAs. Airachnid is one of the worst wastes of resources only dwarfed by Cliffjumper.
>And then they had to kill characters off to save on paying the VAs. Airachnid is one of the worst wastes of resources only dwarfed by Cliffjumper.
Cliffjumper was clearly by design meant to die, my bigger issue was wasting so many Decepticons with no Autobot casualties or any real effects. Bulkhead should've stayed crippled and evened the odds at least.
Yeah but the problem is that they not only made a whole model for a guy that was meant to die on the first episode but the also hired The Rock. Cue not long after they are seriously strapped for cash. At least they had the decency to recycle Skyquake's model. Tho it just underscored how moronic it was to kill Skyquake in the first place.
Cliffjumper got recycled as Tailgate, but not much happened since he died long ago
>Where as Japan did two whole series about the consequences about Unicron being merged with Earth
Please
Spoonfeed me
Zoomers would've been the demographic for Prime when it came out.
no shut up
Prime wanted to tell a deep and captuvating story, but it suffered from a disjointed pace and expensive VAs, which lef to wasting everything interesting the show had going for it: Cliffjumper, MECH, Breakdown, Airachnid... RID2015 was a Con of the week show that took itself way less seriously and allowed for some comfy episodes. Even if it's not BW or Animated, I'll take ut over anything Havre has recently put out, especially ES.
It did however do just that. It was a deep story that told of the interconnected fates of mankind and Cybertronian.
>MECH showed that greed, evil and thirst for power wasn't only decepticon but also human.
>the finale showed all sentient was life capable of change
>arcee, jack, niko, bulkhead etc showed the love and care they have for each other despite race.
>Optimus sacrifice showed the responsibility to live up to his title and power.
>Rachet being upset he made no effort to learn human anatomy when Raph got hurt influenced him to stay on earth.
I can go on. It has flaws but it is without a doubt of the best iterations of the franchise. I was captivated.
You are allowed to like Prime but you don't get to shit on RID. Besides all the things you mentioned were done in Rescue Bots and arguably better.
Oy schizo! When did I shit on RID. I am capable of praising Prime without bringing up other renditions unlike you and the rest. I love Rescue bots (hated the hiatus). I view Prime as great cos its aesthetics was more pleasing, more complex in writing ( utilizing great foreshadowing, dialogue, character interactions) excellent story boarding and music.
Alright I value your opinion then. It's just that the constant bashing that RID gets for nonsensical reasons gets grating. I once had a guy complain about certain characters being reused models as if that didn't happen on Transformers all the time with Prime being a noteworthy offender.
Honestly, I love Prime, despite season 3 being weak, but I couldn't sit through most of RiD. It's probably just because of the difference in age group that they're targeting, though
I honestly thought the third season of Prime was the best one since it had a clear focus from start to finish and the action was solid.
That's fair, I just felt that some of the characters got worse since their arcs had nowhere else to go, like starscream. I was also disappointed by how fast the predacons just got droppped, with all but predaking dying.
I loved when Optimus would narrate Cybertronian lore. Felt like Peter Cullen was ready me a bedtime story.
You can argue they did those things but not that they did them well, half were dropped or ignored after their episode.
>I was captivated.
you were 11.
>MECH showed that greed, evil and thirst for power wasn't only decepticon but also human.
Too bad they were a total waste.
>arcee, jack, niko, bulkhead etc showed the love and care they have for each other despite race.
You can say that about any transformer series with humans in the cast
>Optimus sacrifice showed the responsibility to live up to his title and power.
Optimus sacrificing himself is like Starscream betraying Megatron, it's not special.
being upset he made no effort to learn human anatomy when Raph got hurt influenced him to stay on earth
That is immediately discounted in the followup final film where Ratchet ends up returning to and staying on Cybertron.
Predacons Rising is better off not existing, really.
Wrong. That's Transformers: Animated, you suckers!
>In the past 15 years.
Anon.....
Cyberverse
RID? From 1999?
You're thinking of 'Car Robots'
No, it was fricking babyshit garbage
but enough about Prime
Cyberverse>>>
>Russelpedo
>Bee shipshitter
And the thread is immediately tainted
Schizo
>he says so when every single TFP thread has the either Jack and Arcee shipping or posting Miko doing lewd stuff
and Rescue Bots fans are even more degenerate even though the show is pretty damn good.
> Russelpedo
It's not ped if you want to be the shota.
Worse. A manlet then
> He doesn't know nearly every tall girl and gts fetishist is 6'0 IRL.
Just because Earthspark is worse doesn't make RID 2015 retroactively good. It's still bad, made even worse by the fact it's a prime Sequel.
> made even worse by the fact it's a prime Sequel.
and how does that make it worse? and don't give that "they revived Optimus" because that's full of shit, Optimus only died because of an asspull.
>Optimus only died because of an asspull.
In retrospect, they really should have killed him off at the start of S3, to give the story some actual stakes and impact.
You mean kill Bulkhead in S2 to actually have an Autobot perish besides Cliffjumper at the very beginning.
>asspull
explain
oh no Unicron somehow returned
brb gonna go grab the allspark
I'll use the allspark container to trap unicron in a jar
oh right I put the actual allspark in my spark chamber because I didn't bring another container
anyway down the hole weee
>Unicron never died nor went anywhere
they put him in a vegetative state to save earth. He sent his power and psyche into Megatron.
>brb gonna go grab the allspark
The allspark was told to him by the dead prime back when he had the saber. We all know damn well it was gonna exist in this Iteration.
>I'll use the allspark container to trap unicron in a jar
It was stated it was an indestructible jar capable of containing allspark (life energy) so why not Unicron (prure evil anti life energy)?
>oh right I put the actual allspark in my spark chamber because I didn't bring another container
The jar was created by one of the prime to hold it. Probably using the Forge Hammer. They don't just have another lying around. The hammer was destroyed by PedoKing.
You know well that the real asspull is that they brought back Unicron just at the end so they would have an excuse to kill off Optimus. The third season ending capped off the series in a better manner.
I believe they intended to kill Optimus off but I don't believe It was on asspull. Everything made sense. Just cos it made sense doesn't mean I liked it.
In a perfect world
>The final season would be 25 episodes instead of half that.
> Shock wave and Starscream would be the new antagonists
>Optimus would die fighting off PredaArmy
>Bumble would be deemed a prime before that, tasked with retrieving the allspark.
>Shock tries to kill bee and claim it to be the savior of Cybertron to lead the new, prehistoric and homecoming life.
>Stopped by Predaking: leads army into being civilized and peaceful.
>Bee and King use allspark to start life as equals.
Also
>The third season ending capped off the series in a better manner.
True.
Fine, I admit that it makes sense within the context of the show. But it was incredibly clunky and Unicron shouldn't have been brought back or at least not as an excuse villain to give Optimus a reason to die. I won't dispute the Allspark, I actually liked that they hid it well enough that the show didn't become a tussle over the Allspark.
>Shock wave and Starscream would be the new antagonists
Read the Marvel comics recently and was shocked how much I enjoyed their dynamic. I guess it makes sense with Shockwave's logic balancing with Starscream's usually chaotic nature. I want to see it done more.
Simon Furman's dedication to partnering them up across his G1 story is also oddly sweet, I wouldn't have expected that from him.
Still can't understand why LITERAL ROBOTS not having clear genders is so mindbreaking, especially since this idea has been explored in past media.
I don't know why you keep trying to apologize for this. You'd be right here with us if it was someone like Optimus doing it.
Again, these are ROBOTS. And it's hardly even the first time they've done this in any TF media (not as virtue-signal-y of course, but still).
>not as virtue-signal-y of course, but still).
that's the problem. They're not using it to explore alien robot conceptions of gender. They're doing it to show the alien robot is just like them.
I wish Optimus or someone else had just said "Well we don't really have genders anyway" it would have made it so much better.
Well, the Terrans are not even aliens, so . . .
Stop being fricking obtuse.
Make me.
>i changed my pronouns
>now my life is in danger!
Do nonbingays really think like this? Getting trolled online is not oppression.
Also, you can tell these characters are agenda driven rather than story driven because they have the most milquetoast personalities ever. They are always depicted as these wide-eyed, saccharine archetypes to be as inoffensive (and thus boring) as possible.
Why would the Cybertronian language even have gender pronouns? They are sexless organisms. They use male/female pronouns when speaking English because they/them was never a thing when referring to a single person until recently it makes no sense for this autobot to "always" know its pronouns.
Holy mother of heavy handed.
>only feel safe with ... other non-binary people
What the frick is this. I'm a guy but that doesn't mean being around other guys, regardless of character, is where I'm safest. You can tell the writers aren't actually writing characters here, they're writing their own personal fantasy where they're so victimized they can feel the way the girl does but unconditionally loved and accepted instantly like what happens there. Pitiful and patronizing.
the problem with it is that it's using it as a heavy handed excuse to shove real world politics into a children's show about giant robots
>LITERAL ROBOTS
There's your problem. You think TFs are beep boop bots when they've been far more then that since the very beginning. The fricking crux of this franchise is red truck guy vs guy with a bucket on his head.
Hasbro actually tried making them genderless in the beginning!
Yeah sure, a company cares that much about lore and detail in a cartoon made to sell toys.
No really, that was their initial excuse for the lack of Femmes in the beginning.
Transformers isn't the franchise for that. Transformers is for robots beating up other robots, not walking on eggshells.
>being open about who you are is "walking on eggshells"
Making other people use special self-selected terms for you is making them walk on eggshells.
You think Kup's got time for that shit? Fricker's been everywhere and seen everything, he'd got real shit to remember instead of playing pretend with some bot.
And no, your feelings aren't worth remembering your pronouns.
>Making other people use special self-selected terms for you
Like a name??
Never seen someone go into an autistic meltdown for not knowing someone's name immediately.
But thank you twitter moron for not understanding why Pronouns exist in the language period. They exist do you don't NEED to constantly use a name in conversation.
Non-binary is the 'walking on eggshells' gender because some random stranger nor telepathically knowing whatever made up gender term they are using always causes them to freak out.
All 'non-binary' people are mentally unwell.
You guys are making a bigger deal over it than the characters.
The writers made it a big deal by including this moronic drivel.
Earthspark feels like a Netflix cartoon first. Transformers second. I literally do not care about humans in Transformers media.
Pronouns bullshit is always political dogwhistling.
I always treat everyone as a he and nobody gave a frick. I really don't think all the pronouns shit matters to people that aren't addicted to social media.
I've been calling people "they" since 2005 and only recently started getting shit for it.
You were probably just brushed off as a moron
It's because it's written poorly by some sensationalist. Tell me why would Optimus Prime, a guy coming from a race of robots that turn into genderless objects, doesn't reproduce through sex, is said to be millions of years old, and is the wisest of said species, fricking confused by a "nonbinary" transformer and had to get told they're pronouns are "they/them". The fact this character also has to say "my pronouns are they/them" rather then everyone just saying it in casual conversation like "Oh they went out on a mission.", isn't normalizing the idea but rather accepting the concept is foreign and odd, even to an intelligent species.
That's because despite preaching they want to be normalized, what they really want is to be seen as special.
Presumably Optimus was just unsure about what Nightshade goes by and didn't want to offend. But the line that occurred in could have worked using Nightshade's name. Generally the writing feels awkward regarding Nightshade's identity as if the writers also want to avoid anything that could offend. The episode where Nightshade bonds with Tarantulas has no involvement with that beyond Nightshade's typical self-introduction and gives a stronger feel for their personality and the episode has a very good sense of mood, .
>pronouns
>the plot literally stops so characters can get on a soapbox and talk about shit no one cares about in a giant robot series
>you're a b***h for thinking this is dumb and pointless
I hate you disingenuous Cinemaphilemblr gays so so much.
>character exists almost entirely to spout their Pronouns
Wow how fun.
One day, I want to draw the FoC Insecticons taking turns on railing Nightshade, who is thinking to itself "I can't believe they're still misgendering me."
I don't mind Nightshade being non-binary, just the way it was handled was so ham fisted. It would have made way more sense for Nightshade to meet Tarantulas then the human girl before deciding to be non-binary.
Instead it feels like a scene in his first episode was deleted because it just has the bratz doll correct Optimus Prime. It was just awkward how it was handled, especially since it was never bought up again.
A shame because Nightshade is probably my favourite of the Terrans, but whenever the show stops to get political, his standing dips below Twitch's.
Also the episode with him and tarantulas was great.
It's nice to know others liked this show. It always seemed weird that Prime fans gave Rescue Bots a free pass but then hated on RID despite it being one of the few times TF had done a sequel show.
>deciding to be
They always were, they didn't just suddenly decide to be enby.
That’s what bothers me, Nightshade just knows theyre non binary and what they them are, not even an arc of discovery. The series bible apparently had it originally they didn’t see a point to gender because theyre robotic, I think it would’ve been better that way
>but whenever the show stops to get political
????
a character being nonbinary isn't political
It absolutely is given that it’s a completely made up, nonsensical concept only held up by c**ts who spend their lives on twitter
>a completely made up, nonsensical concept
THIS JUST IN: transforming humanoid car people as a concept is political
Holy kek
Good reading comprehension, moron, clearly I wasn’t talking about non binary and instead was talking about transformers themselves. Call me when people start trying to identify as Optimus prime and have you arrested if you tell them otherwise
People name their children after characters all the time. Some countries like Sweden even have laws that made to prevent doing that.
How the hell is that even remotely close to the same as people trying to tell you “oh I’m not a man or a woman I’m super special teehee!” and trying to shove that shit down your throat and force you to comply with it?
You will never be Optimus Prime, so give up.
Time to transform and 41% I guess
Leftists truly have the best comebacks.
>and trying to shove that shit down your throat
Jfc dude calm the hell down
Optimus takes no prisoners. As someone who watched all 5 canon TF media (the Bay movies), he yells "I'LL KILL YOU!" and slices decepticons up.
Meanwhile the red white and blue trucker robot doing a John Wayne impression and his allies fighting against collectivists who claim all resources in the name of their nation and have lots of identical looking guys is apolitical.
That’s one hell of a stretch. Let me guess, you think bowser in Mario is an allegory for the republicans or something
No. Mario and Bowser are fictional characters playing archetypes that hail from Feudalism or earlier.
I think the problem is that this scene had to happen rather than the character being whatever. Why do we need to have someone EXPLAIN this shit? Just don't bring it up, Optimus didn't come down from heaven and say "I AM OPTIMUS PRIME, HE/HIM PRONOUNS".
Yeah, Nothing wrong with pronoun.
It's literally just gonna be like asking someone for their name, that's it.
Pronoun matters
> It's literally just gonna be like asking someone for their name, that's it.
Only in your cult. No actually sane person announces their pronouns.
That's the most pathetic attempt at a strawman I have ever seen.
>That's the most pathetic attempt at a strawman I have ever seen.
You say this then do the exact same kind of thing by calling anyone who disagrees with you a troony.
None of what you qaid makes that shitty comic not sensical. If you just refer to some guy by she right in front of him, he'll either ask "Who are you talking about?" or "Are you moronic?", because that pronoun and gender theory will just be nonsense to him. He won't play your game, he'll just see you for the freak you are.
>qaid
No one but trannies care about pronoun shit
>My pronoun
Pronouns exist for the people who use them, not the thing's they're referring to.
Otherwise you'd have to correct people when they don't use "your" pronouns in other languages.
Funny how these morons never consider other languages
"Gender neutral" pronouns just don't work in gendered languages like Spanish, that's how you get shit like "Latinx" which is impossible to pronounce
>which is impossible to pronounce
Latinks
You moron
>Not Latinj
Yes, because that's how language works
Every single word is made up. There are no universal rules.
>t. monolinguist amerilard
>Pronoun matters
Pronouns are a social construct, so no they don't.
Only the mentally ill and terminally online care about pronouns
Nobody gave a shit 10 years ago
I'm actually having the time of my life seeing right wing snowflakes do exactly what they accused SJWs of doing. They're so fricking triggered. Thank you Nightshade.
Female autobots existed even in the original show before the movie. They're made & not born yes but they still have sexual separation. What's stupid is making them gay. Especially for each other & not their tiny humans.
RiD2015 is one of the more tactful sequels I've seen in this series overall
Compare that to Japan just nuking last season's developments and cast in late G1 or fricking Beast Machines or both Superlink/Energon(The original audio does NOT save it) basically dropping the ball 10 episodes in.
I am once again saying it- Prime is Zeta and RiD15 is ZZ, a perfectly fine series people shit on for not being what they expected.
it's like if people shat on Persona 4 for not being Persona 3.
No seriously, I can't think of a more apt comparison than that.
>Superlink/Energon(The original audio does NOT save it) basically dropping the ball 10 episodes in.
I still can't believe how the show was constantly stumbling for something to tell due to the bloated 50 episodes format. To think it could have been semi-decent had the show been at least 20 episodes shorter: the writing could have been more focused and the animation budget not spread so thin.
I think the sad thing was that I was around when Superlink was coming out and the early episodes actually made people really hyped up. And it just falls apart. The special episode and the occasional cel animated scenes were intriguing but 20 years later it's just a mess in the end.
I'd still argue that it's less harmful than Beast Machines and the Machinima/RoosterTeeth shows because at least Energon just becomes white noise as it goes on.
>be Energon anime
>cg robots look like shit and move like literal toys, writing destroys any goodwill built up by Armada, easily in the bottom 3 TF shows
>50 episodes of pure drivel with few and far between fun moments
>be Energon Dreamwave comic
>holy kino, keeps up the momentum from the Armada comic, has one of the best returns of Megatron of all time, easily top 5 TF comics
>canceled after 10 issues
IT'S NOT FAIR IT'S NOT FAIR REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
How does Cinemaphile feel about the fact the Fortnite Battle Bus is now a Transformer?
What's a Fortnite?
Neat.
Honestly he should look a little more zany, looks like some generic autobot soldier from a btier transformers game.
Battlebus sounds like a G1 name, so it passes
I guess they were going for headphones, but I feel the smooth face would look more striking of they flipped the yellow bit down over the mouthplate like a football helmet.
>bring back Starscream and Soundwave
>no Shockwave at any point
They really did some random, annoying, and boring shit in this followup show. It squandered potential with the Fallen and the corruption on Cybertron because of shitty storytelling.
>It squandered potential with the Fallen and the corruption on Cybertron because of shitty storytelling.
t. the dude that actually liked the Machinima/RoosterTeeth shows
Nah the Fallen was garbage and shouldn't have been in the show.
With how he was handled, he was indeed garbage.
I honestly don't know what you were expecting. It was the one appearance of the Fallen where he wasn't shit.
Was Fallen that dark magic kind of guy Jetfire fought in the comic? I liked him in that.
Oh yeah his first appearance in Dreamwave. Yeah he peaked there.
The concept of the Fallen is stupid.
>what if we had an EVIL PRIME
Yeah what if we used Nemesis or Nova you fricks.
Nemesis Prime and Nova came later than The Fallen.
Pretty sure Nemesis was in Armada
>squandered potential
you guys get tiring. You keep using that word while pretending TFP actually did something meaningful with its lore.
>be robot Mengele
>the Deceptions lost decisively
>peace out
Honestly can’t see why he’ll risk getting arrested, this dude has a rap sheet of war crimes spanning eons
Why do they keep trying to make Bumblebee a thing
Are you serious? Look at him and tell me there is no God.
Looks like something that would appeal to nips.
I completely get pushing movie Bee, he's an adorable murder machine
What I find funny if Hasbro thinking that translates into pushing G1 Bumblebee, who's a totally different character. People like movie bee because he's mute and has the radio thing, G1 Bee is just generic kid appeal guy.
That said I like that one artist who ships CharlieBee but draws him RiD style. It's like they love him but know his movie self is a bit creepy drawn realistically.
Checked and yeah movie Bee (and versions of him based on that) has a "thing," regular Bee is just kind of normal so he's less marketable.
You now remember the version of The Touch that Stan Bush made which Bay never used for the movies.
Bumblebee is spiritually a Ghibli film.
It is literally E.T. but the alien is a car.
No, it's Shape of Water but with Bee in place of Abe Sapien.
Ok show but a shitty sequel to prime.
How is it a shitty sequel?
Completely different tone, completely forgets about the human characters in prime(It would have been cool to see Jack, Miko and Raf grown up or be a couple years older then what we saw in prime.) Ignores shit that Prime had, IE the Fallen not being a bad guy but suddenly hes evil, completely ruins Optimus death in Predacons rising, idc if you dont like the movie, Optimus should have stayed dead cause his death was to leave room for Cybertron to not be lead by a prime and even then bringing him back what ruined RID 2015 for me, the fact there was no Optimus, bringing back Prime was a big mistake in my opinion that most likely happened due to higher ups demanding Optimus to return as a main character.
over all rid 2015 is a decent standalone transformer cartoon, but as a sequel to prime. a show that is widely considered by the wider fanbase to be one of not thee best TF cartoon since Beast Wars and Animated, rid 2015 was basically doomed to fail due to expectations from the wider fanbase but also because it doesint fit with Prime, Prime was a more mature show that was designed to appeal to new Kids and older fans, while RID 2015 was meant to be kid friendly, which is probably one of the worst mistakes Hasbro made show wise.
>brings up Optimus revival
>also brings up the Fallen
The only thing worth complaining is the tone but that doesn’t make it shitty. Fair point about the kids, however.
> over all rid 2015 is a decent standalone transformer cartoon, but as a sequel to prime. a show that is widely considered by the wider fanbase to be one of not thee best TF cartoon since Beast Wars and Animated, rid 2015 was basically doomed to fail due to expectations from the wider fanbase but also because it doesint fit with Prime, Prime was a more mature show that was designed to appeal to new Kids and older fans, while RID 2015 was meant to be kid friendly, which is probably one of the worst mistakes Hasbro made show wise.
The cartoon had better ratings while it was airing and the toyline sold better. I am not shitting you.
The Hub had extremely poor distrobution compared to even dead hours Cartoon Network.
Yet Prime aired internationally on Cartoon Network for most regions. And there was a version of Prime airing as a Saturday morning cartoon on the CW.
>Prime was a more mature show that was designed to appeal to new Kids and older fans, while RID 2015 was meant to be kid friendly, which is probably one of the worst mistakes Hasbro made show wise.
It had much higher ratings and kid appeal so it was a good decision on their part. Also lots of toyetic designs.
>Fallen not being a bad guy but suddenly hes evil
That was in the binder (that the show never really really listened to) not the show itself.
It's less a sequel and more of another story that takes place in the same universe. Which I think is fine. The events happening aren't as grim or dire as Prime. They saved Cybertron and this is the post-game.
Rescue Bots did that way better than RID
And Rescue Bots did it way better than Prime too anyway.
Going from Prime to RiD is like going from Mazinger Z the manga to Mazinger Z the anime.
I could kind of see "Unicron is Earth" working if even despite the massive casualties from him simply moving his body parts to transform, they use bullshit """logic""" to justify why things can still be alive by saying his body still has gravity and an atmosphere, and show the bodies of land and water still on the outside parts of his body (like along his forearms and shins and such). This would only work for bayformers and not Prime though, Earthicron is cool as frick concept but I can't think of any decent way it could end except mass exodus or stopping him before he fully awakens, which just isn't that satisfactory.
Only through multiverse or time travel shenanigans.
I would otherwise go for that but I'm avoiding anything in that direction due to multiverse oversaturation
I AM JAZZ TO MOON BASE TWO
I AM JAZZ TO MOON BASE TWO
I'm sorry... you think you deserve an apology.
Typical room temperature IQ primeshitter.
I have only watched very few transformers series but I remember seeing some of this on TV and it felt like it was the usual generic children cartoons with a transformers skin. The characters were acting and speaking ins the same jokey, corny way they do in most cartoons aimed at very young children. Am I missing something?
What gets me about RID 15 is how deserted Earth tends to feel. Every other factory or dam or prototype train is conveniently automated and not a soul around for a hundred miles. At least TFP is primarily set in what can be considered remote and sparsely populated
It feels like it should be set in the far future between the rebuilt Cybertron with a large population and characters who seem to have been born post-war and the massive increase in Earth technology compared to Prime, but then Rescue Bots claims the distance is small by having characters from RiD15 show up and that show just has a 3 year time skip.
Wrong RiD dude
Junko/Kelly is cute!
>Junko
Thing I know!!
Why is she so fat?
Just because it's no longer the worst Transformers in the last 15 years doesn't mean it's suddenly good.
samegay
Apologize for what? Not dropping it earlier? You're right, shouldn't have wasted my time like that.
RiD is easier to sit through once you get rid (heh) of preconceived notions and understand its tone is completely different from Prime's. I dropped it earlier because I just wanted more Prime but going back to it knowing what it's like, I can appreciate it better.
cute
Thanks
You drew it? It’s pretty darn good then.
I love shit like this way too much, I don't care if it's "cringe"
If you have a site where you post, please do!
Hell no. It's one big mood whiplash compared to Prime.
>The more serious tone is replaced with goofiness and Decepticon-of-the-week formula and sticks to it for a a very long chunk of the show.
>A crushing majority of Decepticons are now animalistic with new ones being normal Cybertronians you can count on your fingers.
>Plot...non-existent...in fact it's a couple of stories strung together with no actual connection and transition. At least Prime had this thing with the stories in the plots being connected to each other one way or another.
> Plot...non-existent...in fact it's a couple of stories strung together with no actual connection and transition. At least Prime had this thing with the stories in the plots being connected to each other one way or another.
lmao smooth brain homosexual
It literally doesn't exist. There is no bigger plot here and none of the stories are interconnected with each other. The stories are literally separate from each other. With Prime one story led to another. There was a link that created a continuity. Here it's only present like for one time and even then the next story after that is resolved in a short time.
So yeah. There is no bigger plot. No bigger theme with it.
You fricking didn’t watch shit because RID does a far better job at tying up its plot threads while in Prime they are all scattered and loose until season 3 when they bothered to hire someone to oversee the plot. You literally described the shows the opposite way.
I watched it from first to last episode and it felt like glued together.
Frick no, I described it as it is.
You were skimming through it because the plot is there in the background and it does move on as the series progresses.
The ongoing plot in Prime feels like it's made up as it goes along. Oh no the Autobots found an unstoppable McGuffin we're doomed! Lucky we can just fly to cybertron and find another unstoppable weapon to counter it in 5 minutes next episode!
took to much of a friendly approach personally and only really sat thru first few episodes.
still think prime and animated are peak modern transformers and i guess to a point that netflix one as well but i don't remember much about it
The non-binary shit isn't even that big a deal in the actual show.
Wannabe /misc/gays spend more time b***hing about it than they do watching the show in its entirety.
>watching the show in its entirety.
>Implying they even watch the show at all
>Actual twins who came into existence at the same time
>Not the same month
>Actually believing horoscope character charts.
True. The sky from Cybertron would look different, so those constellations are meaningless to 8/12 listed there.
It shouldn't be in a kids show at all.
Why not?
This. This level of PC bullshit doesn't belong in a kid's show.
>every bot: robot looking, even shitty ones like "Thrash"
>Arcee: uhhh lets just make a female character and make it look like she's wearing clothes, can't take any chances here haa haa
>Arcee: uhhh lets just make a female character
That's an issue with the G1 version too.
Isn't it strange how the pronouns are the only thing people talk about from Earth Spark? Not even Autobot Megatron,the Blaxican kids being annoying, or the fact that it's supposedly a sequel to G1. It's almost like the show itself must be boring trash that's really not worth watching.
What I find it more amusing is how much praise it’s getting on twitter when it feels way more childish than RID which gets derided on twitter for that bullshit reason.
Is it by the same people though? You could be comparing people who are mid-20s presently and didn't like RiD15 when it came out to people who are in close to the target age demo for Earthspark now.
Autobot Megatron's been done, the kids aren't notably worse than other examples of tagalong kids and seem to be phasing out anyway, and "sequel to G1" is false since it blatantly contradicts the way the 1984 cartoon depicted things and has an incompatible setting. It simply uses it for nostalgia-looking past similar to Animated using clips as part of an Autobot propaganda film.
Even alternative example talking points aren't good.
>Autobot Megatron's been done,
yeah, but unlike mtmte, it's actually believable.
It helps that they can build it in from the grounds up and decide how far they want Megatron to have gone before hand.
That said I'm glad they're inplying that he was indeed an butthole beforehand who built the Decepticon attitude he's turned against now rather than pushing the blame on other characters.
That he can actually interact with his former followers this time round makes me glad for it.
if you're asking cause i know seiyuu
Hideyuki Tanaka
Tessho Genda
Chafurin
Kotaro Nakagawa
Norio Wakamoto
Ikuya Sawaki
>It's almost like the show itself must be boring trash that's really not worth watching.
>A few morons ree at thing that barely matters means the show is bad.
Damn, guess 90% of all media is shit then,
>guess 90% of all media is shit then
> it's supposedly a sequel to G1
It's not...not even remotely. That's just some nonsense some butthurt youtuber dreamt up to try and discredit the show. Heck the show goes out of it's way to distance itself from G1.
>Cybertronians show up on earth in the 1980s
>The Allspark is a factor
>Megatron changes sides also he turns into an Osprey not a Walther P38
>Starscream has blue optics
>Skywarp and Frenzy are girls
>Earthspark's canon is vastly different to the canon of the G1 show
Honestly I think a better theory is that the G1 show exists in-universe of Earthspark. They even have comics that use the G1 designs.
I reckon they might pull a tmnt and in the future have a crossover with G1 characters. I think that was something that was planned for Cyberverse that didn't end up coming to fruition.
it just used the G1 aesthetic for when Alex told his kids about the history of the Transformers.
Is this thread about RiD or Earthspark?
Energon
No. That show was fricking dreadful and for stupid babies. The writing also made no sense.
Optimus Prime should not need to be trained. He is a Veteran of millions of years of warfare. Bumblebee and Optimus would never disrespect each other the way they did in that show.
Awful, awful, stupid show.