i mean, most are pretty chill but there are definitely the violent ones involved in criminal activities. add meth to the mix and yeah they're probably pretty fricking terrifying to be around if you aren't one of them.
>Are motorcycle gangs as scary as they're portrayed in True Detective?
Any big group of people that has a strong community and where alcohol and meth are the norm is dangerous because somebody will eventually ape out
90% of them are fat larping boomers trying to look tough but some are legitimate criminals like the Hell's Angels, who do legitimate criminal shit. Throw meth into the mix and they can get pretty fricking nasty
The Iron Crusader are actually pretty incompetent in TD. Rust always reminded me more of a real 1%er than those guys, despite the show saying he's a cop. He's focused, intelligent, compassionate, but incredibly violent when he needs to be. All traits you want to have in the members of your club.
Rust is literally me. That's why it's called 1%, bruh. The best of the best.
>People like him virtually don't exist in real life.
Tell that to my mirror, pal.
Imagine if these 3 genius level intellect operators with a wicked sense of humor linked up. They could literally beat Ryan Gosling who is literally me.
I know you're not serious but 1%er refers to the rise of Motorcycle gang violence and the head of the american motorcycle association was all "it's not us, it's the 1% of bikers that are shitheads causing all the problems" and then the Outlaw Motorcycle Gangs would adopt this term as a badge of honor and start wearing "1%er" patchers.
Yeah I'm sure every single undercover cop is an intellectual genius, an expert marksman, tracker, guerilla fighter, philosopher, strategist, martial artist, survivalist, detective and scholar without any fear and real character flaws. And all that while living like a terminal alcoholic.
He's not a philosopher moron, he's a pseud nihilist.
He's also not that great of a strategist. And we never see him use any martial arts, grabbing Marty's wrists and saying he can snap them is not martial arts.
He's just an intelligent, cynical detective that can handle himself in dangerous situations, he's not a one-man army like Rambo, Diehard or other more typical "Mary Sue" ish heroes.
He's not a pseudointellectual, he just has a lopsided view of the world due to past trauma. His heuristics are correct, it's his priors that are wrong. And he disproves his a priori assumption that the world is evil and there is nothing one can do about it, which changes his world view and dispels his nihilism.
You don't seem to know what words mean. Nor do you understand heroes. Him being good at criminology and fighting and a scary dude doesn't make him untouchable. Mary Sue characters are totally flawless, just obstructed and oppressed by the world. It makes for bad fiction with a female lead.
Rust is the most fricked up person in the show (aside from, well, you know) it's just that people understand his flaws are a product of his nature and his scars acquired in a hard life. In many ways Rust and Marty fall into Indo-European heroic ideal, in the last episode especially. But they are tragic failures in most respects.
You don't seem to know what words mean. Nor do you understand heroes. Him being good at criminology and fighting and a scary dude doesn't make him untouchable. Mary Sue characters are totally flawless, just obstructed and oppressed by the world. It makes for bad fiction with a female lead.
Rust is the most fricked up person in the show (aside from, well, you know) it's just that people understand his flaws are a product of his nature and his scars acquired in a hard life. In many ways Rust and Marty fall into Indo-European heroic ideal, in the last episode especially. But they are tragic failures in most respects.
If he was a Mary Sue why did he subject himself to living like a depressed loser for years to build cover for his investigation instead of just solving it right away?
A Mary Sue is a character that is never defeated, never makes mistakes, never grows, a character that everyone likes, and that never faces any challenges. You have no idea what the term means so don't use it.
Rust is a broken shell of a man, he fricks up a lot, he has no friends except Marty who he ends up fighting, he gets challenged a lot, loses his family, becomes an alcoholic, has psychological damage, and fricks up another chance at happiness by scorning the qt on the blind date episode. He ends up shot, and Marty has to pick him up and help him start having a little faith in the world.
A mary sue is a character that appears to have been written as a self insert by an insecure writer with a fragile ego. They are often unrealistic or writing bends to accommodate them implausibly (whether by allowing them success or by avoiding having their honor/moral righteousness spurned).
Rust is an obvious mary sue. His ability to get criminals to confess, read people, his martial prowess, easy coercion of ginger and the police chief and his knowledge of philosophy all indicate the writer was trying to create an absurd warrior poet, with a nihilism twist. On top of that Rust is completely unflappable and morally righteous. Even in nigtown getting hit by a baseball bat he's cool as a cucumber and securing the niglets in the bathtub and when maggy fricks him it wasnt even due to his weakness because he was completely shitfaced.
>A mary sue is a character that appears to have been written as a self insert by an insecure writer with a fragile ego.
Opinion not fact. Nothing suggests Nic identifies with Rust or that he has an insecure ego.
>His ability to get criminals to confess, read people
That's just being a good detective.
>his martial prowess
Now you are backtracking from "knows martial arts" to "has martial prowess". We never see him use any martial arts.
>easy coercion of ginger and the police chief
lol how did he coerce the police chief?
As for Ginger he was kidnapped by two cops and told to cooperate or die.
>On top of that Rust is completely unflappable and morally righteous.
Again your opinion. Rust outright says he is a bad man.
>Even in nigtown getting hit by a baseball bat he's cool as a cucumber and securing the niglets in the bathtub
That's just being a good detective x2.
>and when maggy fricks him it wasnt even due to his weakness because he was completely shitfaced.
Nah he was an butthole for fricking Maggie. And him being shitfaced is a character flaw.
They're big dumb boomer simps who are quick to violence and don't really care about anything. They're "scary" in the same way wild animals are scary. They're unpredictable and violent, usually armed and in packs.
I've heard that biker gangs don't operate like traditional criminal organizations, in that they aren't really organized around crime, but more of a social clubs for criminals and criminal adjacent people. So where the Masons might be a group where you meet people who are able to help you in the white collar world, connecting you to new job opportunities, new clients, people of your own class in other locations, the same is true of the Hell Angels for criminals. You meet people who might sell you drugs in large quantities or connect you with people that might sell you or buy from you drugs, while the organization and it's hierarchy isn't directly connected to criminal activity.
And I don't think it's some plot to circumvent racketeering laws, more that it comes from people having similar hobbies and lifestyles (biking and crime) finding each other and organizing around the more acceptable of the two.
I think the modularity has an advantage over the traditional pyramid scheme of a criminal racket insofar as it prevents a rat at the top from compromising the whole organization while also providing a level of amorphousness that prevent outsiders from seeing the true size and shape of a club.
Would an MC really roll up on black like that? Seems pretty risky to go the projects without air support. I thought bikers only messed with other whites. And sometimes brown. But brown MCs, and not Mexican mafia. I don't know about yellow.
When eme claimed authority over all Hispanic gangs on the west coast, the mongols (Hispanic mc) told them to frick off
So eme greenlit them and suddenly they were getting dropped by every rando Hispanic banger. mongols quickly called for a truce
I went to a bar once to see some b***h do an act where she hung from hooks in her back. It was packed with bandito bikers. My friend touched the girls shoulder after the show to get her attention and the old fat bandito guys started chimping out and I legit thought we were about to have to fight and they all had guns. Luckily I calmed them down and apologized and everything was fine but it was insane how quick they were ready to go full chimpout.
I worked for two guys from biker chapters in security. They were giant, fat dudes which almost seemed to be a necessity in those circles. The older guy was alright, albeit a true tinfoil hat know it all. The younger guy had lost most of his teeth from meth abuse and was prone to go absolute berzerk for the pettiest shit. Like not being coffee beans in the machine. His table had a huge indent from his fists.
Both of them were quite larpy and not nearly as tough as they pretended to be. But that's the thing, in their social circles it's expected to project some clichee'd overly macho version of yourself outward. And if that construct gets called into question you either do whatever moronic action you have to do to defend that image. Same dynamic in Arab clans for example. Bikers hang out in groups, are often armed and on drugs and have to act macho in front of their friends, that's not what makes them dangerous as a group even though many of them don't come close to being the hardass thy pretend to be.
probably not anymore, but even in england in the 80's my dad was forced to smuggle a shotgun for a bunch of bikers into the pub he was working the doors.
There is a difference between motorcycle "clubs" and OUTLAW biker gangs. I emphasise OUTLAW because that is the ultimate way of being to a "1%er" aka 1% of the population that lives outside the laws of man, god, or nature.
True Outlaws are rare but the show did a great job of showing what they are like
Im a social worker from a family of social workers going back generations, I guarantee I have more experience and interaction with criminals than you do. Do you actually shit your pants when you see those fat hairy leather jacket boomers on their motor trikes on the highway? Do you seriously think they're all actually hardened criminals and not attention prostitutes?
>I'm a dumb, naive and easily manipulated lefty homosexual
Your opinion is worthless and people like you need to be executed for what damage you're causing to the world in following you cultish blind idealism.
The Hell's used to be a big deal around here (quebec), they had regular turf wars and controlled the drug trade up until like a decade ago. But they've been neutered since they arrested more than a hundred of them at once in a big operation.
They were carbombing judges and stuff, those methhead morons huffed too many of their own farts and thought they could somehow win and turn North America into their own Mexico
I have seen a few guys in mississippi and louisiana with leather jackets and long hair and vest on black bikes, all that stuff. but who knows if that crazy biker gang violent kind of stuff happens anymore like it did in the 80s and 90s.
They're just scuzzy people. Imagine a gang of drunk trailer trash methheads that like to talk shit and try to intimidate regular people because there's a bunch of them and they'll jump you for fighting back. That's basically a biker gang. There's a bunch of Pagans near where I live and they're just fricking trash. Nothing romantic at all about it. Just a large group of white trash that ride around on annoyingly loud Harley's and mean mugging some 45 year old dad just pumping gas so they can feel tough.
I can see how in the early 20th century through even the 90's or so how people found them scary, even terrifying. They were violent racists and typically abtisocial. But now? Just low impulse guys to avoid. Fat morons even with tattoos. They have a reputation for drugs and forcing mostly ugly women into prostitution. Not scary.
Only good response. 81, Pagans, Outlaws, Vagos and Sons of Silence are criminal organizations. They often recruit local gangbangers to boost their numbers. They also gossip and politic like teenage girls. They usually kill eachother more than their enemies.
The people who join these gangs would otherwise be smoking meth in trailer parks and spending time in and out of prison. They join these gangs to be part of something and have protection, like all gangs. They're losers.
Source me I grew up poor as shit in a crime ridden city (Rockford, IL) and hung around them till I grew up and moved away. Things might be different now but I doubt it.
I live in York Pa, where one of the two Harley factories are. It's like a mecca for a bunch of boomers. But yes, the Harley culture is filled with LARPing boomers who like to join motorcycle clubs and wear leathers and go to biker bars and act tough. They're not ballsy enough to pretend to be apart of some criminal outlaw biker gang, but they do like to play dressup and temporarily "live the lifestyle". I see some of these people everyday, and normally they'd be wearing button up shirts and khakis, but when it's time to ride all of a sudden they're bad ass dudes in cuts with Iron Maiden shirts and ripped jeans. It's gay. Harleys are gay.
You're literally describing what 99% of motorcycle clubs have always been, moron. This isn't some secret revealing information your preteen world experience imagined it was. Of course MCs are mostly just regular people who like choppers as a hobby.
>appropriate attire
lmao jesus christ dude, its like saying every sailor should dress like a pirate or every trucker should dress like they're from mad max or something.
They dress like dangerous biker gangers because they want to look like dangerous biker gangers, period.
>It's the safest thing they could wear.
lol most of these dudes don't even wear helmets and some ride around in leather vests and blue jeans. Theyh don't give a shit about safety, they just want to look tough.
The '''''threat'''''' and ''''''danger'''''' posed by motorcycle gangs is wildly overblown in modern fiction because they're the only way that producers can portray a bunch of WASPs as an organised gang of dangerous criminal thugs.
Beaners have their cartels, skinning people alive and massacring entire families both sides of the border.
Nogs have their ooga booga street gangs, who have turned US cities into tribal warzones.
In reality, the savagery of these two delightful demographics has no parallel whatsoever amongst American whites.
But that's heckin wrongthinkarino so they like to pretend that there are nazi white supremacist drug dealer motorcycle gangs swarming around the American countryside, who victimise the innocent and butcher people like animals the same way nonwhites do.
The pure seeth that wearing a black t shirt and motorcycle boots causes astounding. It's hard to believe anyone could possibly give a shit in 2023 but sure enough this 90 year old style still freaks people out.
But SOA work with nazis to kill Black folk and turns out the "nazis" in the beginning were fake poser homosexuals. Also the black villains burn some guys daughter alive. Torture Bobby and shoot him in the head in a deal.
Plus Black folk kill one of the best members in prison. Soooo. Not really so much "don't be racsist" when Black folk are seen as evil and they work with nazis to kill Black folk
i mean, most are pretty chill but there are definitely the violent ones involved in criminal activities. add meth to the mix and yeah they're probably pretty fricking terrifying to be around if you aren't one of them.
no, they're all illiterate larping homosexuals who like to get drunk and play grabass with each other and suck each other's sweaty dicks
Are you speaking from experience?
>Are motorcycle gangs as scary as they're portrayed in True Detective?
Any big group of people that has a strong community and where alcohol and meth are the norm is dangerous because somebody will eventually ape out
leaf Hells Angels were pretty scary back in the day
90% of them are fat larping boomers trying to look tough but some are legitimate criminals like the Hell's Angels, who do legitimate criminal shit. Throw meth into the mix and they can get pretty fricking nasty
The Iron Crusader are actually pretty incompetent in TD. Rust always reminded me more of a real 1%er than those guys, despite the show saying he's a cop. He's focused, intelligent, compassionate, but incredibly violent when he needs to be. All traits you want to have in the members of your club.
Rust is a Mary Sue self-insert. People like him virtually don't exist in real life.
And that's why he's interesting
Imagine if these 3 genius level intellect operators with a wicked sense of humor linked up. They could literally beat Ryan Gosling who is literally me.
You jest but that what makes a real MC so dangerous, not strength in numbers but quality of men.
Rust is literally me. That's why it's called 1%, bruh. The best of the best.
I know you're not serious but 1%er refers to the rise of Motorcycle gang violence and the head of the american motorcycle association was all "it's not us, it's the 1% of bikers that are shitheads causing all the problems" and then the Outlaw Motorcycle Gangs would adopt this term as a badge of honor and start wearing "1%er" patchers.
AKSHUALLY, OMCs wear a 1% patch not a 1%er patch. The 1%er patch is for people in normal MCs that behave like outlaws.
>People like him virtually don't exist in real life.
Tell that to my mirror, pal.
all undercover cops are like that
Nah UCs are usually needlessly aggro or needlessly jolly; you can't be stoic when you're living a lie.
Yeah I'm sure every single undercover cop is an intellectual genius, an expert marksman, tracker, guerilla fighter, philosopher, strategist, martial artist, survivalist, detective and scholar without any fear and real character flaws. And all that while living like a terminal alcoholic.
Yep, just like me
He's not a philosopher moron, he's a pseud nihilist.
He's also not that great of a strategist. And we never see him use any martial arts, grabbing Marty's wrists and saying he can snap them is not martial arts.
He's just an intelligent, cynical detective that can handle himself in dangerous situations, he's not a one-man army like Rambo, Diehard or other more typical "Mary Sue" ish heroes.
He's not a pseudointellectual, he just has a lopsided view of the world due to past trauma. His heuristics are correct, it's his priors that are wrong. And he disproves his a priori assumption that the world is evil and there is nothing one can do about it, which changes his world view and dispels his nihilism.
I like your take.
>Mary Sue
The easiest concept to grasp still slips through the cracks of your moronic brain. You clearly don't even know what a Mary Sue is.
t. mary sues
You work for me now.
So you're now admitting that such characters do in fact exist in real life, in direct contradiction to
Thank you.
nta but what do you think virtually means, tard
You don't seem to know what words mean. Nor do you understand heroes. Him being good at criminology and fighting and a scary dude doesn't make him untouchable. Mary Sue characters are totally flawless, just obstructed and oppressed by the world. It makes for bad fiction with a female lead.
Rust is the most fricked up person in the show (aside from, well, you know) it's just that people understand his flaws are a product of his nature and his scars acquired in a hard life. In many ways Rust and Marty fall into Indo-European heroic ideal, in the last episode especially. But they are tragic failures in most respects.
Yeah, it's fiction you numale homo.
If he was a Mary Sue why did he subject himself to living like a depressed loser for years to build cover for his investigation instead of just solving it right away?
A Mary Sue is a character that is never defeated, never makes mistakes, never grows, a character that everyone likes, and that never faces any challenges. You have no idea what the term means so don't use it.
Rust is a broken shell of a man, he fricks up a lot, he has no friends except Marty who he ends up fighting, he gets challenged a lot, loses his family, becomes an alcoholic, has psychological damage, and fricks up another chance at happiness by scorning the qt on the blind date episode. He ends up shot, and Marty has to pick him up and help him start having a little faith in the world.
So no, he's not a Mary Sue.
A mary sue is a character that appears to have been written as a self insert by an insecure writer with a fragile ego. They are often unrealistic or writing bends to accommodate them implausibly (whether by allowing them success or by avoiding having their honor/moral righteousness spurned).
Rust is an obvious mary sue. His ability to get criminals to confess, read people, his martial prowess, easy coercion of ginger and the police chief and his knowledge of philosophy all indicate the writer was trying to create an absurd warrior poet, with a nihilism twist. On top of that Rust is completely unflappable and morally righteous. Even in nigtown getting hit by a baseball bat he's cool as a cucumber and securing the niglets in the bathtub and when maggy fricks him it wasnt even due to his weakness because he was completely shitfaced.
>A mary sue is a character that appears to have been written as a self insert by an insecure writer with a fragile ego.
Opinion not fact. Nothing suggests Nic identifies with Rust or that he has an insecure ego.
>His ability to get criminals to confess, read people
That's just being a good detective.
>his martial prowess
Now you are backtracking from "knows martial arts" to "has martial prowess". We never see him use any martial arts.
>easy coercion of ginger and the police chief
lol how did he coerce the police chief?
As for Ginger he was kidnapped by two cops and told to cooperate or die.
>On top of that Rust is completely unflappable and morally righteous.
Again your opinion. Rust outright says he is a bad man.
>Even in nigtown getting hit by a baseball bat he's cool as a cucumber and securing the niglets in the bathtub
That's just being a good detective x2.
>and when maggy fricks him it wasnt even due to his weakness because he was completely shitfaced.
Nah he was an butthole for fricking Maggie. And him being shitfaced is a character flaw.
dumb esl/zoomer
Great argument.
They're big dumb boomer simps who are quick to violence and don't really care about anything. They're "scary" in the same way wild animals are scary. They're unpredictable and violent, usually armed and in packs.
I've heard that biker gangs don't operate like traditional criminal organizations, in that they aren't really organized around crime, but more of a social clubs for criminals and criminal adjacent people. So where the Masons might be a group where you meet people who are able to help you in the white collar world, connecting you to new job opportunities, new clients, people of your own class in other locations, the same is true of the Hell Angels for criminals. You meet people who might sell you drugs in large quantities or connect you with people that might sell you or buy from you drugs, while the organization and it's hierarchy isn't directly connected to criminal activity.
And I don't think it's some plot to circumvent racketeering laws, more that it comes from people having similar hobbies and lifestyles (biking and crime) finding each other and organizing around the more acceptable of the two.
I think the modularity has an advantage over the traditional pyramid scheme of a criminal racket insofar as it prevents a rat at the top from compromising the whole organization while also providing a level of amorphousness that prevent outsiders from seeing the true size and shape of a club.
most are ok, some take it too far and when you add drink and drugs to that, well, yeah...
Would an MC really roll up on black like that? Seems pretty risky to go the projects without air support. I thought bikers only messed with other whites. And sometimes brown. But brown MCs, and not Mexican mafia. I don't know about yellow.
Probably not. But in the episode it didn't really seem like an official operation but something Ginger more or less made up on the spot.
Rolling up on black makes no sense since those guys are poor as shit. The only time I could see it happening was if there was an enforcement issue.
Even someone involved with distributing medium quantities of drugs? Doubt it.
When eme claimed authority over all Hispanic gangs on the west coast, the mongols (Hispanic mc) told them to frick off
So eme greenlit them and suddenly they were getting dropped by every rando Hispanic banger. mongols quickly called for a truce
Mongols, you work for me now.
I went to a bar once to see some b***h do an act where she hung from hooks in her back. It was packed with bandito bikers. My friend touched the girls shoulder after the show to get her attention and the old fat bandito guys started chimping out and I legit thought we were about to have to fight and they all had guns. Luckily I calmed them down and apologized and everything was fine but it was insane how quick they were ready to go full chimpout.
They're overcompensating how for how silly their patch looks. Speedy Gonzalez mfs.
most aren't no. not even the 1%'ers.
they were just trying to get laid like any jocks
hung from hooks in her back? like texas chainsaw massacre style? wtf?
yeah suspension its a bdsm thing
You've had a veritable explosion of cucks LARPing as gangs since west coast choppers, sons of anarcht etc. its pretty gay
I worked for two guys from biker chapters in security. They were giant, fat dudes which almost seemed to be a necessity in those circles. The older guy was alright, albeit a true tinfoil hat know it all. The younger guy had lost most of his teeth from meth abuse and was prone to go absolute berzerk for the pettiest shit. Like not being coffee beans in the machine. His table had a huge indent from his fists.
Both of them were quite larpy and not nearly as tough as they pretended to be. But that's the thing, in their social circles it's expected to project some clichee'd overly macho version of yourself outward. And if that construct gets called into question you either do whatever moronic action you have to do to defend that image. Same dynamic in Arab clans for example. Bikers hang out in groups, are often armed and on drugs and have to act macho in front of their friends, that's not what makes them dangerous as a group even though many of them don't come close to being the hardass thy pretend to be.
No. Most of them are aging upper middle class guys, because most bikes are quite expensive luxury items.
is louisiana as kino as it's portrayed in true detective?
probably not anymore, but even in england in the 80's my dad was forced to smuggle a shotgun for a bunch of bikers into the pub he was working the doors.
yes
There is a difference between motorcycle "clubs" and OUTLAW biker gangs. I emphasise OUTLAW because that is the ultimate way of being to a "1%er" aka 1% of the population that lives outside the laws of man, god, or nature.
True Outlaws are rare but the show did a great job of showing what they are like
Im a social worker from a family of social workers going back generations, I guarantee I have more experience and interaction with criminals than you do. Do you actually shit your pants when you see those fat hairy leather jacket boomers on their motor trikes on the highway? Do you seriously think they're all actually hardened criminals and not attention prostitutes?
>Im a social worker from a family of social workers going back generations
Lmao.
>I'm a dumb, naive and easily manipulated lefty homosexual
Your opinion is worthless and people like you need to be executed for what damage you're causing to the world in following you cultish blind idealism.
I genuinely don't know what you mean by this
most of my work is in inner city baltimore, trying to keep the morons in check, doesn't mean I dont interact with other scum
>I have experience in this
>uhhh but actually it's with Black folk in The Wire
You are the only fictionally dreamed-up Mary Sue itt.
these are not mutually exclusive dude
>Im a social worker from a family of social workers going back generations
>cries about middle aged men enjoying their bikes
>does nothing about Black folk
You're entire fricking famimily is a pathetic failure.
I'm in the Mongols
>bikers
lmao
OHHHHH heyyy we gotta real made guy ovah here!!!
The vipers killed tony, my guy.
The Hell's used to be a big deal around here (quebec), they had regular turf wars and controlled the drug trade up until like a decade ago. But they've been neutered since they arrested more than a hundred of them at once in a big operation.
They were carbombing judges and stuff, those methhead morons huffed too many of their own farts and thought they could somehow win and turn North America into their own Mexico
>turn North America into their own Mexico
What a shame Trudeau managed to do so anyway.
I have seen a few guys in mississippi and louisiana with leather jackets and long hair and vest on black bikes, all that stuff. but who knows if that crazy biker gang violent kind of stuff happens anymore like it did in the 80s and 90s.
They're just scuzzy people. Imagine a gang of drunk trailer trash methheads that like to talk shit and try to intimidate regular people because there's a bunch of them and they'll jump you for fighting back. That's basically a biker gang. There's a bunch of Pagans near where I live and they're just fricking trash. Nothing romantic at all about it. Just a large group of white trash that ride around on annoyingly loud Harley's and mean mugging some 45 year old dad just pumping gas so they can feel tough.
I can see how in the early 20th century through even the 90's or so how people found them scary, even terrifying. They were violent racists and typically abtisocial. But now? Just low impulse guys to avoid. Fat morons even with tattoos. They have a reputation for drugs and forcing mostly ugly women into prostitution. Not scary.
>WAYSISSSSTTSS WAH WAH
tell you what is disgusting, all third world non-whites.
Only good response. 81, Pagans, Outlaws, Vagos and Sons of Silence are criminal organizations. They often recruit local gangbangers to boost their numbers. They also gossip and politic like teenage girls. They usually kill eachother more than their enemies.
The people who join these gangs would otherwise be smoking meth in trailer parks and spending time in and out of prison. They join these gangs to be part of something and have protection, like all gangs. They're losers.
Source me I grew up poor as shit in a crime ridden city (Rockford, IL) and hung around them till I grew up and moved away. Things might be different now but I doubt it.
I live in York Pa, where one of the two Harley factories are. It's like a mecca for a bunch of boomers. But yes, the Harley culture is filled with LARPing boomers who like to join motorcycle clubs and wear leathers and go to biker bars and act tough. They're not ballsy enough to pretend to be apart of some criminal outlaw biker gang, but they do like to play dressup and temporarily "live the lifestyle". I see some of these people everyday, and normally they'd be wearing button up shirts and khakis, but when it's time to ride all of a sudden they're bad ass dudes in cuts with Iron Maiden shirts and ripped jeans. It's gay. Harleys are gay.
You're literally describing what 99% of motorcycle clubs have always been, moron. This isn't some secret revealing information your preteen world experience imagined it was. Of course MCs are mostly just regular people who like choppers as a hobby.
There's one autistic guy who no one will let into their boomer club that posts true kvlt MC threads here so
>appropriate attire
lmao jesus christ dude, its like saying every sailor should dress like a pirate or every trucker should dress like they're from mad max or something.
They dress like dangerous biker gangers because they want to look like dangerous biker gangers, period.
>every sailor should dress like a pirate or every trucker should dress like they're from Mad Max
nta but we'll, why not?
fair point id respect them more
>It's the safest thing they could wear.
lol most of these dudes don't even wear helmets and some ride around in leather vests and blue jeans. Theyh don't give a shit about safety, they just want to look tough.
ah yes cutoff sleeves and no helmet, very safe and practical
The '''''threat'''''' and ''''''danger'''''' posed by motorcycle gangs is wildly overblown in modern fiction because they're the only way that producers can portray a bunch of WASPs as an organised gang of dangerous criminal thugs.
Beaners have their cartels, skinning people alive and massacring entire families both sides of the border.
Nogs have their ooga booga street gangs, who have turned US cities into tribal warzones.
In reality, the savagery of these two delightful demographics has no parallel whatsoever amongst American whites.
But that's heckin wrongthinkarino so they like to pretend that there are nazi white supremacist drug dealer motorcycle gangs swarming around the American countryside, who victimise the innocent and butcher people like animals the same way nonwhites do.
Maybe in the 90s
The pure seeth that wearing a black t shirt and motorcycle boots causes astounding. It's hard to believe anyone could possibly give a shit in 2023 but sure enough this 90 year old style still freaks people out.
It's just zoomers being intimated by anything that's outside their experience or even remotely masculine.
I think they're more realistically portrayed than SOA. Apparently, drugs and human trafficking is okay but they draw the line at racism.
But SOA work with nazis to kill Black folk and turns out the "nazis" in the beginning were fake poser homosexuals. Also the black villains burn some guys daughter alive. Torture Bobby and shoot him in the head in a deal.
Plus Black folk kill one of the best members in prison. Soooo. Not really so much "don't be racsist" when Black folk are seen as evil and they work with nazis to kill Black folk
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back then actual hardmen who were soldiers were in the clubs, nowadays only thugs with violent daddies get into it.