Not just music, just about all art programs are since the teachers are typically all failures who couldn't become professionals so they decided to teach instead and take out their frustration on the students
Plenty of them are or close to it. Perhaps a few scenes are a bit over the top like actually throwing shit at your students but yelling at them over misplacing sheet music, not being on tempo, etc. is fairly standard. I mean once you get out into "the real world" and you're for example a session musician, if you're not nailing the tempo on the first or second take on material you've never heard before, your career is basically just over. That's basically the environment that Fletcher is training people for.
>yelling at them over misplacing sheet music, not being on tempo, etc. is fairly standard
A teacher raises his voice ONCE at me, he will be decked by me same second.
>yeah man I was gonna join the Marines but I wouldn't make it through boot camp, as soon as a drill sergeant got in my face and yelled at me I'd deck his ass
You can't unpunch a punched face. They might kill the recruit, that doesn't take from him having stood up for himself. In this scenario, the recruit is the hero, and no matter what happens next, he can stay a hero or he can get upgraded to hero+martyr. NOTHING can take anything from him once he decked the instructor.
Not anymore, half of bands are DEI affirmative action women and minorities. If a conductor still acted like that towards them they’d be fired. And half of conductors are DEI affirmative action hires anyway, especially the higher up you go. The competency crisis is affecting the arts too.
Yes, have you seen what’s on Broadway recently? It’s all trash. The NY big bands and orchestras are even worse. I used to go into the city all the time, not I’ll go in every one and a while when a jazz club has someone actually good playing. The arts are dead.
most don't even work in music and the ones which do often play in multiple bands (cover bands, wedding bands, cruise ships bands etc) or they teach kids to play instruments and stuff like that. obviously only 0.01% of them actually become famous and live from just that
A lot of people get music degrees because it's an easy undergrad before going to law/medical school. One of my cousins got a degree in Romantic languages because she just wanted an easy degree for medical school
I dont know how it is in america but you have to take those tests to get into both law and med school no, I doubt anyone with a degree in music could pass any of those exams let alone get high enough to get into grad school in another subject. In most eu countries you get into medical school after highschool but you have to take natural science & math (courses relevant for early medicine or engineering)
Depends on your race and gender. A black, Hispanic, or woman could fail their tests and they’ll still get in. In the US never see a doctor that isn’t a white or Asian male.
no not even close.
it is kind of a thing that band directors can be divas though. its kind of a social grace allotted to them for whatever reason. but it's nothing like this movie.
Not just music, just about all art programs are since the teachers are typically all failures who couldn't become professionals so they decided to teach instead and take out their frustration on the students
Plenty of them are or close to it. Perhaps a few scenes are a bit over the top like actually throwing shit at your students but yelling at them over misplacing sheet music, not being on tempo, etc. is fairly standard. I mean once you get out into "the real world" and you're for example a session musician, if you're not nailing the tempo on the first or second take on material you've never heard before, your career is basically just over. That's basically the environment that Fletcher is training people for.
>yelling at them over misplacing sheet music, not being on tempo, etc. is fairly standard
A teacher raises his voice ONCE at me, he will be decked by me same second.
You assume that the average art homosexual lifts and has any self respect
Now tell us about your academic credencials
>yeah man I was gonna join the Marines but I wouldn't make it through boot camp, as soon as a drill sergeant got in my face and yelled at me I'd deck his ass
>t. literal king
Here's the thing. The DIs will kick that recruits ass then throw him in the brig
You can't unpunch a punched face. They might kill the recruit, that doesn't take from him having stood up for himself. In this scenario, the recruit is the hero, and no matter what happens next, he can stay a hero or he can get upgraded to hero+martyr. NOTHING can take anything from him once he decked the instructor.
Not anymore, half of bands are DEI affirmative action women and minorities. If a conductor still acted like that towards them they’d be fired. And half of conductors are DEI affirmative action hires anyway, especially the higher up you go. The competency crisis is affecting the arts too.
So basically a lot of mediocre shit comes out?
Yes, have you seen what’s on Broadway recently? It’s all trash. The NY big bands and orchestras are even worse. I used to go into the city all the time, not I’ll go in every one and a while when a jazz club has someone actually good playing. The arts are dead.
rack em, prag
watch any 'russian ballet academy' documentary
what do most music majors even end up doing? they all obviously don't end up becoming famous musicians right?
Music teachers and/or private lessons. Every school has a music teacher, band teacher, orchestra teacher, etc.
most don't even work in music and the ones which do often play in multiple bands (cover bands, wedding bands, cruise ships bands etc) or they teach kids to play instruments and stuff like that. obviously only 0.01% of them actually become famous and live from just that
They all become the next Ralph “Skee-Bop” Patruciolli
A lot of people get music degrees because it's an easy undergrad before going to law/medical school. One of my cousins got a degree in Romantic languages because she just wanted an easy degree for medical school
I dont know how it is in america but you have to take those tests to get into both law and med school no, I doubt anyone with a degree in music could pass any of those exams let alone get high enough to get into grad school in another subject. In most eu countries you get into medical school after highschool but you have to take natural science & math (courses relevant for early medicine or engineering)
Depends on your race and gender. A black, Hispanic, or woman could fail their tests and they’ll still get in. In the US never see a doctor that isn’t a white or Asian male.
Just a reminder that only contrarian homosexuals listen to jazz. It's just random noise that all sounds the same.
And there are a lot of contrarian gays on this board.
its the best genre ever. deal with it
not the good ones
I only go to the most prestigious schools, with the best chair throwing teachers money can hire
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no not even close.
it is kind of a thing that band directors can be divas though. its kind of a social grace allotted to them for whatever reason. but it's nothing like this movie.
Lol, no.
It's a bunch of smelly homosexuals sitting around smoking weed.
Not at all. Also nobody would care this much about getting into some third-rate non-institution big band.