I have never watched either of the 2 spider-verse movies. I don’t really have that big of an interest in Spider-Man, Marvel, or Capeshit either but I consider myself an animation buff. this board and whole discourse surrounding the films are giving mixed signals. They’re actually good and worth watching?
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The visuals look nice.
just watch the fricking movie or clips on youtube and find out for yourself
>Consume product, feed Disney and Sony
"The best animated movies out" isn't actually praise unless you're delusional enough to claim they're the best movies ever instead of the best new movies
>Objectively
lol how do you measure that? Sounds pretty racist to me
>Classism
Yep, advocates of this movie have proven themselves to be low quality people again
No one will ever pick up your Spiderverse pitch
Exactly what's going through your head, do you actually think I want 100 million to make a spider-verse movie? I would prefer to make my own stuff regardless of how much make money I make
>isn't actually praise
Not who you replied to but how's this for why I agree it's the best we've seen in years?
When you consider the simplicity of the first movie's framerate wherein Miles is off-beat with Peter's when they have the computer, but as he begins to understand his framerate matches. This is emblematic of the thought gone into style being important beyond just aesthetic throughout the entire movie. The thought consistently put into the foundation of not just this celebrates and embraces the reason optimists care about animation as a medium. The last ten years have produced no equal in accomplishing the fidelity in my opinion.
I get being jaded but dunno why you'd pretend a studio taking risks and being rewarded with critical praise because it pulled it off can't be considered good.
pic related
How is your own stuff coming along? Spending more time on that than being a contrarian?
pic
>feed Disney and Sony
It's called pirating dipshit (although the ones out for Spiderverse 2 last I checked are shit, but they will be good eventually.
just watch it you fricking schizo
yes. dont listen to stupid morons on Cinemaphile. they are AMAZING movies. The best animated movies out.
watch Puss in Boots: The Last Wish instead
They’re a fun ride. Classic hero’s journey.
>Classic hero’s journey.
I don’t get it.
Not classic, more of a Like Mike journey where the sneakers make the hero
Watch them on mute, skip through any talking parts, make sure you don't pay for them or you're supporting animator exploitation
Why do I want to punch this b***h's lights out?
cuz you suffer from arrested development and are looking for attention on a Cambodian shovel measuring forum
The first one IS objectively good, no matter how hard schizos on this board will try to gaslight you.
Not sure about the second though, I haven't seen it yet.
I loved the second just as much as the first. I can see how some people might not have enjoyed the story as much, though I personally really liked it. In terms of visuals, the animation in the second is probably even better than the first.
>In terms of visuals, the animation in the second is probably even better than the first.
across The Spiderverse was too experimental for my taste, Hobie and Ben stands out way too much compared to the others at the HQ. Gwen's universe is way more visually unusual then Gwen herself. Like SpiderHam is a cartoon in a cartoon world and in Miles's world he look like a cartoon come to life but not a hand drawn cartoon like Roger Rabbit he fit in in Mile's world and Mile would fit in his world. Penni and Noire didn't look that out of place either and she had anime eyes and he was shades black and white.
All the lego Spider-man, Donald Glover, Spectacular Spider-man stuff was jarring the closest think to that the first movie had was a Popsicle at the beginning for a throwaway gag.
Storywise naught a lot not actually happens and the closest think we get to resolution is Gwen arc which as far as I can remember is 3 scene with her Dad and fell flat for me. I'll probably like it better when the 3rd one come out but honestly as of now the 1st is way better then the sequel.
>I'll probably like it better when the 3rd one come out
That's fair. The only thing that dragged Across the Spiderverse down for me was that there were a few too many heartfelt conversations between the parents and the kids. It didn't stick out to me on my first watch, but I felt it on my second watch. I'm sure it's because there's a big theme surrounding the bond between family (Mile's dad, Gwen's dad, Miguel's daughter, Peter and Mayday, Jessica being pregnant) and I'm sure it'll payoff great in the last movie. But now it just felt like slow build up.
The parent shit felt pretty solid to me, maybe moreso with Gwen and her dad than the other two, tho.
Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed it for the most part. It just felt very emphasized. Miles' last talk with his mom where she gives him that big speech before he goes after Gwen stood out in particular.
The talk with his mom's important since the ensuing events is basically exactly what she was talking about, how he'd "Meet new people, and that some of them would tell him how he doesn't belong." etc. I guess I liked the GS and her dad more was because their relationship felt very warm and genuine, and I loved the conflict between them.
I agree Gwen's stuff with her dad was great. Makes me kind of sad that their story is already wrapped up and probably won't have much focus in part 3. And yeah, I admit Rio's speech did have a good payoff at the end when Miles comes back "home".
the first one is
Knowing less about Spiderman might actually help your enjoyment because I see a lot of anons here mad about how the story diverges from the original comics. But regardless, if you love animation, you'll love it. It's a spectacle.
First movie fixed Miles as a character and surpassed the other animated movies of that year in animation and writting, is one of the best Spiderman movies
>First movie fixed Miles as a character
No
>is one of the best Spiderman movies
Also no
Shut up Bendis you are not black
Into the Spiderverse is better than SM3, ASM1, ASM2 and the Holland Trilogy
Nah, it's only better than TASM2 and FFH and even then FFH's Mysterio sequence visually mogs anything in ITSV
TASM 1 & 2 are just shitty adaptations of Spectacular Spiderman (the Animated series) and Ultimate SpiderMan Comics (first one tried to be fricking dark like the Nolan Trilogy, but tbf i like the dynamic between Peter and Gwen, also the suit from the sequel was peak), Homecoming was okay for a introduction, FFH was just Peter going into a summer trip with his cast of idiots who no one cares, Infinity war was pretty good, and NWH is ok but only works thanks to the previous movies.
Not to mention Marvel baited half world with "there iz a mulltyberze?" no shit why there was a storm in the web expecting a cameo from Garfield and Maguire
Still waiting on a decent rip. I'm not watching cam footage like a common thug.
Why not go to a matinee showing for 8 bucks
>supporting Sony
>supporting Bendis
>supporting Slott
>supporting Amy
>supporting Avi
Nah
thats a long way to say “im poor”
That's a long way to say "I'm a shill"
What, like a poorgay?
They're great movies if you hate Spider-Man
Yes. Cinemaphile won't admit it but they are the best animated films since Toy Story 3.
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They’re genuinely the best Spider-Man films out there, and this is coming from a racist Cinemaphile power user that thought the first film would just be some sell out marvel diverse crap. Despite all that I fricking loved spiderverse and the sequel is similarly good, they’re both better than even Spider-Man 2 which I fricking love. They might even be better than ironman 1 or dofp - my favourite marvel films.
Is into the spiderverse actually good in terms of characters and story or do people praise it just because of it animation and style?
If you liked ANY marvel movie or modern blockbuster you'll like the movie.
homosexuals on this site will tell you it's not good because they're contrarian smoothbrains who thinks not liking popular stuff makes them sound smart.
It's an honest movie, it's enjoyable and it's well made.
>good in terms of characters and story
Yes, i dont want to spoil it, i love the dynamic between miles and Peter, Kingpin as Main Villain, Miles growing to become a real Spiderman (its the only example in mainstream where i like the hero role as a mantle)
>do people praise it just because of it animation and style?
into the spiderverse stands on it's own storywise, across the spiderverse is still in the honeymoon phase and I wouldn't be surprised if a couple months from people look back and realize the visuals carried the story. Kind of like Avatar, It not terrible it's just the story wasn't that captivating.
The characters are fun, the acting is good, it's the tried and true coming of age story formula that has worked for 100s of years. Plus the leap of faith scene is kino.
>Are the spider verse movies actually worth watching?
No, if you have any taste whatsoever. It's just shitting on Peter to help prop Spider-Diversity up. The homosexual directors also openly admit they are mocking comics and comics fans.
Dude, it's a glorified what if? story. who cares
I hesitate to believe you're an animation buff if you haven't seen the movies that will influence the next decade of animated film.
Go watch ‘em
Didn't watch the first one, saw the second one with zero expectations and was pleasantly surprised very quickly. It's pretty nice.
>Didn't watch the first one, saw the second one with zero expectations
Do people do this or are are you trolling me?
I didn't give a shit about the first one when it came out, I just had a very surface-level understanding of what went down, but I kinda assumed that Kingpin killed the loser Spider-Man in 1 so I was surprised when he showed up in 2. I went to see 2 with friends, so that's why I watched it at all.
>How dare you not watch every MCU movie
You are the lowest quality type of participant in film discussion
Lol do you have a crystal ball?
>If you all modern movie slop you'll like this too
That is both obvious and a pathetic defense. You're just describing having no standards
He didn't mention MCU, dumbass. He just meant the overall concept of watching a sequel before they watch the original.
Boil, shut your mouth, the mere fact that you participate is the best argument against spider-verse. You're a Homestuck fan who identifies with the obvious Homestuck influence like the nihilistic Multiverse that revolves around talk of Canon, not good or evil or heroism or anything.
Lol who the frick are you talking about? Do you have conversations with scarecrows? You taking any side means the instant defeat of that side. If you want your opinion to win, your best bet is to shut the frick up.
>Talking to yourself
Don't act like the cringey MCU references don't exist
You're comparing it to things like encanto or turning red, that's not actual competition
>Muh framerate
That's not an artistic choice, that's a cost cutting measure. Executives welcome an excuse to cut costs and pretend like it's an improvement, they aren't actually doing anything unique and daring like Ren and Stimpy did.
I was inspired by Ren and Stimpy to dedicate 5 years of my life to inspiring other artists though I only ended up being exploited, this is stolen valor of actual artistic bravery. Screw your frame rate
>Spending more time on that
Quit trying to control how I live my life, that just goes to show that you industry supporters have always been aware of how lonely I was that you try to sneak in and make impacts to my psychology.
>that's not actual competition
I agree, is there something I haven't seen in the last ten years that tops this?
>That's not an artistic choice
Okay buddy, it just happened to coincide that it had symbolic relevance?
>I was inspired by Ren and Stimpy to dedicate 5 years of my life to inspiring other artists though I only ended up being exploited, this is stolen valor of actual artistic bravery.
So you're jaded because you got chewed up and spat out and you also happen to laud an outdated innovation? No wonder you couldn't tread water lol. The reality is risks are contextual to the current trends, parlance and pop culture zeitgeist. You trying to reinvent the wheel doesn't mean all successful art is wrong.
>stop trying to control how I live my life
>have always been aware of how lonely I was that you try to sneak in and make impacts to my psychology
Have you taken your meds today or touched grass? I asked a simlpe question without trying to control shit and have no idea what your mental health is. At the very least take a shower so you get less time terminally online.
>Don't act like the cringey MCU references don't exist
I didn't and I didn't even say you were talking to yourself. I simply said I don't know why you presume I'm this "Boil" person you keep having nightmares about, but I guess you have selective reading so you can argue against things no one said in a pitiful attempt to sound smart or correct, when in reality, you just undermine your ability to be smart or correct right off the bat.
Do you have any interest in watching the first one?
Not really since I've seen what happens already. The setup bugged me a lot for some reason, so I just ignored it.
They suck, especially the last one.
Aside from being incredibly woke and gay, the visuals were simply the attraction. The characters were deliberately contrived by wypipo to virtue signal, and the saving grace of the film was that there are other spidermans aside from the combo diversity mexican/black. But I was dragged to see the movie, and I dislike moronic gay Black person troony shit, so Im a bit biased because looking at inner city visuals disgust me, and hearing that oogabooga trap autotune trap shit makes me feel sick. I can't believe people listen to whatever the frick post malone is.
Also
>Ima do mah own thang
Goddamn, why are we encouraging kids to talk like moronic Black folk? I can't wait for this shitty series to fizzle out.
3/10 Would have rather seen the flash.
The first one is my pick for best capeshit movie of all time. The second's plot and characterizations fall apart pretty hard, but it is a visual feast at least.
Can you stomach a forced black superhero? That's the only question you need to ask yourself.
they don't have the greatest plot but they are visually very good, the characters are also not terrible
Was pretty mid on the first one. Saw it way after the hype and on a shitty flat screen on Netflix, so the animation wasn't anywhere near as stupendous as it would have been in the theaters. Also that thirty-frames thing really fricked with my eyes.
Saw the second one a couple of weeks ago and am eagerly awaiting the third. Quite possibly one of the most beautiful movies ever made.
>Quite possibly one of the most beautiful movies ever made.
Please watch more movies
Going outside is more beautiful and exhilarating, too bad for you that you miss out on this life kino
>In the last 10 years
This is just passive aggressive trolling, I don't watch any of those cartoons and you know I have no respect for them.
>symbolic relevance
If you need to explain it over and over in every discussion it has no actual meaning, you're just doing marketing. It's also the same fricking marketing is for the last movie, so you're just conceding they have nothing new
>So you're jaded because you got chewed up and spat out and you also happen to laud an outdated innovation?
More vile passive-aggressive trolling. Okay buddy I'm sure there's a lot of young folks who would be really disturbed to hear what I went through for the sake of Art, perhaps you should rethink refusing to discuss this properly here.
>meds
You wish, instead my mind is very powerful.
>I asked a simlpe question without trying to control shit
>At the very least take a shower
You contradicted yourself, I'm very familiar with this kind of behavior. And I just stepped out of the shower so you're showing that I live in your head rent-free and you're not actually unfamiliar with me.
I'm going to send three emails to people in the industry before I come back, perhaps that'll help your nastiness shape up which has evidence of you being involved in Homestuck whether direct or indirect. After all I just pointed out the influence in spider-verse for the first time. I keep track of EVERYTHING dude.
>and you know I have no respect for them.
No I don't schizo, I don't know you
>If you need to explain it over and over in every discussion
huh? It's the first time I've brought it up because mostly I say - yeah that movie is fantastic and people are fine with me having that opinion
>who would be really disturbed to hear what I went through for the sake of Art
Okay.
>You contradicted yourself,
Dude giving advice is not controlling anyone.
You may have voices in your head or some shit that make you feel compelled to do things but you are in control of yourself at the end of the day, and when you actually take your meds those compulsions are even more manageable.
They’re both great movies imo. Incredible visuals and very fun story and characters. Nowhere does it feel boring or pretentious even if some parts can be MCU-like.
Dude my new script says to drop the "not pretentious" line because it doesn't feel organic enough, didn't you get the updated script?
I have only watched the first 1 and it was ok. A 7/10 but I have a bit higher standards for the writing since I often read books.
I love all the passive aggressive holier-than-thou shotposters that invade these threads. Anyone who doesn't loke these movie simply does not belong on Cinemaphile. So yes watch them.
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First movie's ok, it's mainly carried by it's visuals and Peter B. Haven't seen the second but the whole 'canon events' plot point sounds moronic as hell
They’re bendis slop
Why do 9/10 spider verse threads have to end up with schizo posting
Because nothing good has come from it? Hollywood knowing about the multiverse is good for no one and the continued treatment of its animators proves how soulless the movie is
one guy pushing his opinions and never backing down can led to that
"guy" being the operative schizo.
Spiderverse really is the ultimate chud filter. Unable to cope with its quality and success they turn to delusion, but cope after cope has turned their brains into mush and now they're something less than human. Trapped in a mental hell of their own making truly a fitting punishment. Miles wins again.
Here, I've got the second one summarized for you here.
Quick answer: No. They're pretty movies, but they both fricking suck - especially if you care about the characters being close to how they are in the comics.