Nunneries are full of lesbian action. They have been caught multiple times.
Humans are humans, regardless of religious trappings.
Men are rarely able to overcome their lust. Do you think women are able to do it?
"Unplanned" is *effective* propaganda. Mildly cheesy.
The Catholics have the best films - "The Mission", "Silence", "Hacksaw Ridge". "Lord of the Rings" trilogy and "1917" (watch for the Two Trees . . .).
It's propaganda if it tries to get a message across, and it's effective propaganda if the message happens to be true.
See also: Frank Capra, "Why We Fight". What it said about the Axis was true. It simply neglected to mention how bad the Soviet "allies" were.
that's not how that term works at all, propaganda is pushing an issue in a biased way from a place of power for some kind of gain, effective propaganda just means you actually convinced people
haven't seen it but I don't trust it for a second, and it's absolutely propaganda because it's trying to push a narrative and push it based on feelings and beliefs rather than an objective, measured, even-tempered look at things
Hacksaw Ridge is really good, comfy movie, really positive, feels good watching movies like that once in a while, nowadays every movie is depressing as frick
hacksaw ridge is a movie, that on its surface, was something i should have hated. a cheesy ww2 movie with vince vaughn and andrew garfield should have made me reeeeee. but it was incredibly engaging.
Once I Was a Beehive
Thouvh it is specifically LDS
>Hacksaw Ridge >Catholic
Isn't it about a Quaker war medic? Which still seems against their pacifism. You're still part of the war, its like being a hitman's driver
I actually liked that about the movie. His decision doesn't make perfect sense but as a story about a man trying to do what's right in a difficult situation I found it really moving
Cecil B. DeMille made some good Christian movies like the Ten Commandments, King of Kings, and Samson and Delilah. He was also just a great and rounded Director overall.
>the old testament is samaritan
am i reading this correctly? because the same israelites who rejected Christ and had him crucified claimed that they were descendants of abraham which is extensively chronicled in the books of Moses.
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>claimed that they were descendants of abraham
Jesus calls them "sons of their father the devil" when they tried to brag about their descent from Abraham.
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Im just being flippant. Samaritans, israelites, Christians, even Muslims, believe in the story of Moses leading the Israelites out of Egypt contained in the Old Testament. So saying “The Ten Commandments isn’t Christian kino, it’s israeli kino” is just kinda dumb. It’s both.
I don’t know. I saw the anon say his movies were israeli, so I checked his early life section. Literally all I know about him is that he’s of English and Dutch-Belgian descent and was raised Episcopalian
You're the one warping Christ and his teachings through your vitriolic posts. You're acting like you're the only one with some understanding of God and his Son's love. You are not holy or above the rest of us. Scorsese is a devout Catholic with aspects of Guilt and Retribution hanging over him and his films. He depicts the sinners and blasphemers, and warns the audience about where their decisions ultimately leads them. Sounds like you're a close minded person, aka midwit.
His movie is heretical. A devout Catholic wouldn't have made it.
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A devout Catholic would not have made it, but a brave devout Catholic would have and he did. Just because your mind can't stand a challenge, or your soul is poisoned enough to take pride in your ignorance, doesn't mean the movie was made from a place of hate or resentment. Is it blasphemous? Yes, but it has to be in order to tell a story that challenges its audience, yet reaches the same conclusion as the Gospels. Face it, the movie is still highly regarded and brought many young and old people back into the fold. I can attest to that.
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Yeah, no. Not buying your filth. Scorcese should have been excommunicated.
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Well he won't be and will be buried with honors from the Church itself. Just like Fellini. Cope. Very impressive that you somehow reached the status of judge for any and all religous media, though. Enjoy your larp and playtime. Hopefully you'll find honesty and God's love in life one day.
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Okay, Martin. Hope you like Barbecue.
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>They are darkened in their understanding, alienated from the life of God because of the ignorance that is in them, due to their hardness of heart
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Aren't you a sanctimonious one.
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we are legion, cuckold
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Just trying to help spread the word. One you seem keen on pretending exists in your particular way. I care about you on a certain level, but I don't care for your attitude and dismissing other people's experiences and their attempts at finding peace and understanding.
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You're making excuses for the mass distribution of heresy, going as far as to call it brave. Are you even Catholic?
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I believe in Christ and the teachings of his father. What exactly are you?
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If you aren't Catholic or Orthodox, your opinion on this matter is of no consequence to me.
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mama mia, papa pia, anon needs to diarrhea
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I encourge you to watch some steven anderson
You protties really are a joke.
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make a statue of it, heathen
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anderson has already btfo'd very catholic argument in existence
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You are blind.
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No YOU are blind
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For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but having itching ears, they shall heap to themselves teachers in accordance with their own lusts.
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>sound doctrine
HA. a catholic talking about sound doctrine. you really can't make this shit up
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Maybe don't get your ideas about Catholic doctrine from a guy who doesn't have clue about Catholic doctrine. I'm sure the way he frames things he's deboonked it all. Now go over to the other side (Catholic Church) and hear their arguments.
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I've already read summa, now taste summa this! *spoons meat-a-balls and sunday gravy into your mouth*
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see
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You protties really are a joke.
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I'm not who you're talking to. You're just embarrassing.
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Just look at that clown you are posting. Straight Pride? What is he, a facebook boomer. No sense for beauty. Sad.
Andrei Rublev (1966)
Babette's Feast (1987)
Ben-Hur (1959)
The Flowers of St. Francis (1950)
Francesco (1989)
The Gospel According to St. Matthew (1964)
La Passion de Notre Seigneur Jesus-Christ (1905)
A Man for All Seasons (1966)
The Mission (1986)
Monsieur Vincent (1947)
Nazarin (1958)
Ordet (1955)
The Passion of Joan of Arc (1928)
The Sacrifice (1986)
Therese (1986)
My church youth group went to see the Passion when it came out and my buddy got nachos but he got in trouble with the youth pastor for being disrespectful. Looking back the pastor was 100% in the right.
"Ostrov" or "The Island" is great Orthodox Christian kino. It's about a conflicted monk who struggles to come to terms with the great evils he has done in his past.
Andrei Rublev is a poor representation of Christianity by Soviet atheists. It's closer to medieval Latin Catholic theology than the Orthodox saint it's supposedly about.
>It's about a conflicted monk who struggles to come to terms with the great evils he has done in his past.
Does he kill himself and give all his shit to the people he wronged?
Yeah the guy who swore of earthly possessions should give his non existent possessions away and commit suicide. This is why you don’t write screenplays
You clearly don't understand Christian monasticism then.
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>You clearly don't understand Christian monasticism then.
Sure I do, it's just an convenient escape route rich homosexual criminals can take to never face the consequences of their actions or redeem themselves.
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what are you basing that on? nothing but pure reddit fuelled seethe?
I recognize that he did put much more representation of the (at the time) seriously oppressed Russian Orthodox Church than any other Soviet filmmaker at the time, but he got a lot of stuff wrong, bordering on blasphemous even. >portrays Andrei Rublev as interested in sex, even though he was a tonsured monastic iconographer at the time >portrays an argument between Rublev and another monk about painting a icon with hellfire and people being tortured in hell to inspire fear in believers, which is exaggerated reality on the point of ridiculous
There were other small details, but those were things that really didn't set well with me, since the movie is supposed to be a monastic saint.
I know what you mean, and those are his weird flourishes, but he was a christian. I don’t really mind a monk being tempted either since they’re still human beings
how film illiterate are fedoras? >passion of joan of arc >man for all seasons >silence >calvary >tree of life >flowers of st francis >andrei rublev
off the top of my head. there’s many more
>'The Lord of the Rings' is of course a fundamentally religious and Catholic work; unconsciously so at first, but consciously in the revision. That is why I have not put in, or have cut out practically all references to anything like 'religion,' to cults or practices, in the imaginary world.
Reminder that atheists, queers, women, and various pagans/heathens cannot possibly understand or properly appreciate The Lord of the Rings.
As someone who believes in God and the wisdom of the Bible and of Jesus, this is disappointing to me. This is partly because of his Catholicism but also because, in my experience, people who constantly think about and profess their faith are using it as a shield or a hiding place. They don't think they're strong enough to do what's right and constantly ask for help instead of just quietly keeping the faith and doing what they already know and feel to be right. I don't believe God would fail to give you guidance on the correct path just because you didn't pray for it, that's a dick move and runs counter to Him wanting us to succeed. I also really am bothered by Tolkien saying everything is a conflict of good and evil, and especially by him pitting God and the Devil as the motivating factors. God is good and motivates good things but to say everything good is solely because of God is to deny a lot of good people ant credit. On the flip side, saying that evil is because of Satan is a massive cop out- people are evil because they want to be evil, because it's convenient or profitable or just plain fun. To say otherwise is to let any number of bad actors off the hook.
Tolkien's work is blasphemous garbage, albeit unintentionally, that has poisoned Christianity in the English speaking world with useless and defective ideas.
that doesn't make any sense, it's religious so that's why it's not religious? not only that but it was consciously based on The Silmarillion which is a mess of mono- and polytheism
King of Kings (1961) is very kino. It is only really cheesy in the last 10 minutes. Some of the actors are terrible, though. The actress that plays Salome sucks (understandable, she was only 16 or 17 iirc), pretty much all the disciples (except Rip Torn), Herod's wife.
left behind with kirk cameron is not good or kino but it is worth watching. it's a trilogy and like half the cast is gone in the third one because of scheduling conflicts
>lanklet >always expects the worst out of every situation >understands atheist and nihilist talking points but still chooses to believe >dickyseur[spoiler]
he's literally me[/spoiler]
Finally, somebody said it. I don't watch Scorsese's films especially because they are blasphemous and heretical to an extreme. "The Last Temptation of Christ" was outright banned in Greece for many years. I wish it still was.
It did lead to some live tv kino >Oprah hosts panel to discuss the movie >has Christian leaders of various denominations offer their thoughts >Greek Orthodox priest gets mad the Catholics and Protestants don’t condemn the film >starts yelling about Nestorianisn and the hypostases of Christ and other high-concept theology you learn in seminary >audience has no idea what they’re arguing about >black preacher stands up and goes “ayo wut the Bahble say tho?”
I'm gonna give you my Letterboxd list. >Passion of the Christ >Calvary >Silence >Hacksaw Ridge >Chariots of Fire >Ben-Hur >It's a Wonderful Life >Risen >The Gospel According to St Matthew >Jesus of Nazareth miniseries (despite the Judas stuff) >The Island (Russian movie) >The Bible miniseries >The Monk and the Demon (Russian movie) >The Way >Prince of Egypt >The Ten Commandments >The Nativity Story >Rocky II (yes) >Soul Surfer >Father Stu
I wish there were more Orthodox movies in English. Hopefully with the sort of Orthodox revolution going on in America there might be some.
"The Monk and the Demon" has apocatastasis as part of the ending, which is the heresy of universal salvation for everyone, even the devil and the demons. It's a bit of a fun movie, but when they pulled that out, I realized it's really just a Trojan horse.
Yeah you're right.
That's the issue with a lot of Christian movies. They're all well and good except that almost all of them have a heresy of some kind.
I think when watching there's a degree of discernment you need to take when watching these movies.
You most certainly wouldn't tell a new convert "hey watch Jesus of Nazareth where Judas is a sympathetic character, The Monk and the Demon which has a heresy that you might easily fall for, The Last Temptation of Christ which is blatant heresy and any protestant movie or show that refuses to ever acknowledge the Trinity and that Christ is God". But if you're a Christian who feels comfortable in the Faith you should be strong enough to say "okay, that's incorrect" without completely disregarding a film.
>muh heresy
Not only does no one care but you sound like a frickin ancient old bastard.
Yeah you're right.
That's the issue with a lot of Christian movies. They're all well and good except that almost all of them have a heresy of some kind.
I think when watching there's a degree of discernment you need to take when watching these movies.
You most certainly wouldn't tell a new convert "hey watch Jesus of Nazareth where Judas is a sympathetic character, The Monk and the Demon which has a heresy that you might easily fall for, The Last Temptation of Christ which is blatant heresy and any protestant movie or show that refuses to ever acknowledge the Trinity and that Christ is God". But if you're a Christian who feels comfortable in the Faith you should be strong enough to say "okay, that's incorrect" without completely disregarding a film.
The trinity:
1. Is not necessary- should I have just rejected what Jesus said if he was "merely" the son of God and not God himself? and why does it basically invent the holy spirit from like two mentions as a full third leg of the thing? That's because-
2. It's influenced by pagan numerology- the number 3 has ancient significance and probably inherent psychological "completeness" and I guarantee you that's why the ancient pre-schism leaders jumped on and shoehorned in the holy spirit. Not only that but most importantly...
3. It has no fricking bearing on how to live your life! Am I supposed to specifically be worried about what Jesus will think but not God? That makes no sense and no one thinks that way. Am I supposed to pray to the holy spirit? Again, nonsense, and no one does it (and don't bring up "in the name of the father, the son and the holy spirit" because that's a lazy catch-all like much of Catholic and Orthodox theology). Am I supposed to look for signs and guidance from one and not the other two? See, this all falls apart on inspection as something to be looked at in light of what to actually do with your life and not "well actually" autistic-style debate.
News flash: a preponderance of the founding fathers were Unitarian, they didn't believe in the trinity at all! Is that not good enough for you?
Just be a good person and keep the faith, stop quibbling about bullshit.
IDK, it doesn't present his apostasy as just and says nothing about the fate of his soul. He's a man who bends and breaks under the weight of his faith, which is relatable either way.
>the subtle glimpse of feet
I fricking love when you walk behind a woman in thongs/sandals in the supermarkt and they bend down to grab something and do that sole reveal
"..for the growing good of the world is partly dependent on unhistoric acts; and that things are not so ill with you and me as they might have been, is half owing to the number who lived faithfully a hidden life, and rest in unvisited tombs."
There was an era in the 70s/80s where Christianity was just passively accepted as “true” in Hollywood movies. It wasn’t cause Hollywood was run by devout Christians or anything, it’s just it was the default worldview among normies so screenwriters used it as a basis for fantasy/magical systems.
Indiana Jones is a good example, and probably the most clear and in your face. Others would be Ghostbusters and The Exorcist.
Nowadays that’s long over. It’s the multiverse instead
Keep in mind that nowadays the most consistently successful paranormal/horror movies (Blumhouse stuff, including The Conjuring) also establish as its essential and only sensible premise that the Word of Christ is true.
So do several other movies such as The VVitch, A Dark Song etc
>Indiana Jones
have you even seen temple of Doom?
it treats Hinduism like the force from SW, there's a good side (represented by shiva) and a dark side (represented by kali and the thuggee cult). When Mola Ram falls down the cliff (like the emperor in SW) Indy even yells at him "you have betrayed shiva!"
Not sure about the actors heritage but Jesus certainly didn't look like a Maori either. Just because He was olive skinned, doesn't mean that any olive/brown person could play Him.
Bernadette (1988) is probably the only "good" catholic film made
the medium really is a waste for Christians
which is funny because no one even mentioned it lol
>routinely has sexual contact that any christcuck would consider absolutely haram >i'm a virgin tee hee
At least the israelites have cooler loopholes, like magical strings and ghost elevators. Just frick already.
I'm just saying that >god is perfect and cannot commit mistakes >so his book is perfect and has no mistakes >meaning that any loophole i find is not really a loophole >so frick you my oven can cook dinner automatically
Is a lot less stupid than playing hide the pickle and pretending you are not fricking.
Anyways you all are Abrahamics, so you are basically the same shit.
yeah trite legalism is super spiritual. if someone wants to wait for actual penetration until they are married (couples who do this are way happier and more likely to stay together on average) I don’t see why that should upset you. if he gets foot jobs from his gf that’s frankly what incredibly based, so I don’t see the reason to weigh in and start sucking off israelites out of nowhere
I always thought TWBB had some pretty good influences in it. I know it isn't explicitly or intentionally, but I thought Daniel presented a pretty good example of a heart hardened without God and Eli a good example of a bad Christian, full of pride and corrupts himself in the end
A Danish guy once told me that he believes the film is about a wealthy materialist who poisons everything he touches before killing the antichrist at the end. I don't know how much I believe that but it's always stuck with me.
It's a Christian movie with an environmentalist message, drawing from the call for stewardship over the earth in Genesis. It also criticizes megachurch pastors, but it doesn't beat you over the head with it.
Not once does the main character question his faith or does the movie make Christianity look ridiculous.
>Evangelicals
They actually gain followers because they are proselytism machines. The literally can't make non-chessy propaganda, they don't know how to be subtle. >Catholics
Able to be subtle and able to insert religious themes in an actual narrative.
Go back to your capeshit thread pal, adults are talking. You could be talking about how the latest star wars manchild shit offends your political sensibilities instead.
I know this is a troll, but the only reason that heaven is treated by Christians as another plane of existence instead of the literal sky is technological advancement.
>the kingdom of heaven is among you... oops I meant it's in THE SKY
How are you so sure the black science man didn't lie to you to intentionally get you to damn yourself?
Yes there have been plenty of high quality films mentioned ITT. Nothing you have to attention span for, that’s why I suggested that the twitter threads and disney products might be more your speed.
Everything in western cinema is a Christian or post Christian film. Christendom is like water and we’re the fish. Almost everything we take for granted in the world comes from Christ. And the things we decide to question are also things we got from our Christian heritage. If you haven’t read the Bible you can’t understand art.
daredevil
this one is really good
me on the left (praying to god to cure and forgive all the Gays)
frick off israelite
Verhoeven is just one of those smug boomers that will have a really funny look on their faces when they meet their maker.
>Dude... What if nuns were.... LE GAY?????
Nunneries are full of lesbian action. They have been caught multiple times.
Humans are humans, regardless of religious trappings.
Men are rarely able to overcome their lust. Do you think women are able to do it?
Teenagers and kids are getting castrated left and right today. I think where there is a will there is a way.
nicholas cage did it better
>French gays just discovered lesbian nuns a concept so overplayed it’s a porn cliche
French filmmakers are hacks What a shocker
It was Verhoeven, that old pig.
"Unplanned" is *effective* propaganda. Mildly cheesy.
The Catholics have the best films - "The Mission", "Silence", "Hacksaw Ridge". "Lord of the Rings" trilogy and "1917" (watch for the Two Trees . . .).
Unplanned was real good, my dude. Not sure how it was propaganda. You can verify their statements via Google, no?
It's propaganda if it tries to get a message across, and it's effective propaganda if the message happens to be true.
See also: Frank Capra, "Why We Fight". What it said about the Axis was true. It simply neglected to mention how bad the Soviet "allies" were.
that's not how that term works at all, propaganda is pushing an issue in a biased way from a place of power for some kind of gain, effective propaganda just means you actually convinced people
haven't seen it but I don't trust it for a second, and it's absolutely propaganda because it's trying to push a narrative and push it based on feelings and beliefs rather than an objective, measured, even-tempered look at things
Hacksaw Ridge is really good, comfy movie, really positive, feels good watching movies like that once in a while, nowadays every movie is depressing as frick
hacksaw ridge is a movie, that on its surface, was something i should have hated. a cheesy ww2 movie with vince vaughn and andrew garfield should have made me reeeeee. but it was incredibly engaging.
"Hacksaw Ridge" is about a Seventh Day Adventist conscientious objector.
Thanks for that. So not really Christian.
It was directed by a Catholic, though I imagine Gibson is probably one of those Sedevacantists who are protestant but won't admit it to themselves.
Just watched the mission yesterday, pure kino.
I liked The Pilgrimage
Once I Was a Beehive
Thouvh it is specifically LDS
>Hacksaw Ridge
>Catholic
Isn't it about a Quaker war medic? Which still seems against their pacifism. You're still part of the war, its like being a hitman's driver
I actually liked that about the movie. His decision doesn't make perfect sense but as a story about a man trying to do what's right in a difficult situation I found it really moving
>Lord of the Rings" trilogy
But the movies more or less stripped away the spiritual aspects of the books.
Silence was peak christkino.
>The Mission
Fantastic movie. It's a shame it isn't discussed more often.
Remember the Goal is an unsuspectingly good movie.
Play the Flute was similarly good.
Death of a Nation.
America: Imagine the World Without Her
Unidentified
Time Changer
Heaven is for Real
From Ararat to Zion
Gold through the Fire
Wise Blood (1979)
Cecil B. DeMille made some good Christian movies like the Ten Commandments, King of Kings, and Samson and Delilah. He was also just a great and rounded Director overall.
Those are more israeli kino.
Cecil B Demille wasn’t israeli anon
No but the Old Testament is.
No it’s actually Samaritan
>the old testament is samaritan
am i reading this correctly? because the same israelites who rejected Christ and had him crucified claimed that they were descendants of abraham which is extensively chronicled in the books of Moses.
>claimed that they were descendants of abraham
Jesus calls them "sons of their father the devil" when they tried to brag about their descent from Abraham.
Im just being flippant. Samaritans, israelites, Christians, even Muslims, believe in the story of Moses leading the Israelites out of Egypt contained in the Old Testament. So saying “The Ten Commandments isn’t Christian kino, it’s israeli kino” is just kinda dumb. It’s both.
Didn't Cecil B. Demille commonly have doctors on set to inject his actors with uppers (which are now not legal)?
I don’t know. I saw the anon say his movies were israeli, so I checked his early life section. Literally all I know about him is that he’s of English and Dutch-Belgian descent and was raised Episcopalian
>Dutch
Literally ten times worse than israeli.
We’re all free to have our own prejudices, but let’s just be accurate here. The man is many things, israeli is not one of them.
It's still christian propaganda, israeli or not
The Ten Commandments actually had me misunderstanding Christianity for my entire adolescent life. The film is entertainment first, Bible second.
What did you misunderstand?
Moses DID NOT get a peaceful exit from Egypt by Pharoah. That one stands out the most.
The animated films of that section of the Bible do a much better job.
It’s been a while since I’ve seen the movie, does Pharaoh not chase him and drown in the Red Sea?
Moses didn't exit from Egypt, period. No historical evidence of the exodus, no israeli workers at the pyramid. Pure israelite propaganda.
The Last Temptation of Christ. im israeli but even i liked this Film. making the "guardian angel girl" SATAN was one of the best twists ever
>I'm israeli but even I liked this heretical anti-christian film
Nice try schlomo
>can't even appreciate a quality film that questions the religion, but ultimately respects Christ and his sacrifice
Enjoy your Christian cinema dark age
Get lost, subverter.
You're the one warping Christ and his teachings through your vitriolic posts. You're acting like you're the only one with some understanding of God and his Son's love. You are not holy or above the rest of us. Scorsese is a devout Catholic with aspects of Guilt and Retribution hanging over him and his films. He depicts the sinners and blasphemers, and warns the audience about where their decisions ultimately leads them. Sounds like you're a close minded person, aka midwit.
His movie is heretical. A devout Catholic wouldn't have made it.
A devout Catholic would not have made it, but a brave devout Catholic would have and he did. Just because your mind can't stand a challenge, or your soul is poisoned enough to take pride in your ignorance, doesn't mean the movie was made from a place of hate or resentment. Is it blasphemous? Yes, but it has to be in order to tell a story that challenges its audience, yet reaches the same conclusion as the Gospels. Face it, the movie is still highly regarded and brought many young and old people back into the fold. I can attest to that.
Yeah, no. Not buying your filth. Scorcese should have been excommunicated.
Well he won't be and will be buried with honors from the Church itself. Just like Fellini. Cope. Very impressive that you somehow reached the status of judge for any and all religous media, though. Enjoy your larp and playtime. Hopefully you'll find honesty and God's love in life one day.
Okay, Martin. Hope you like Barbecue.
>They are darkened in their understanding, alienated from the life of God because of the ignorance that is in them, due to their hardness of heart
Aren't you a sanctimonious one.
we are legion, cuckold
Just trying to help spread the word. One you seem keen on pretending exists in your particular way. I care about you on a certain level, but I don't care for your attitude and dismissing other people's experiences and their attempts at finding peace and understanding.
You're making excuses for the mass distribution of heresy, going as far as to call it brave. Are you even Catholic?
I believe in Christ and the teachings of his father. What exactly are you?
If you aren't Catholic or Orthodox, your opinion on this matter is of no consequence to me.
mama mia, papa pia, anon needs to diarrhea
You protties really are a joke.
make a statue of it, heathen
anderson has already btfo'd very catholic argument in existence
You are blind.
No YOU are blind
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For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but having itching ears, they shall heap to themselves teachers in accordance with their own lusts.
>sound doctrine
HA. a catholic talking about sound doctrine. you really can't make this shit up
Maybe don't get your ideas about Catholic doctrine from a guy who doesn't have clue about Catholic doctrine. I'm sure the way he frames things he's deboonked it all. Now go over to the other side (Catholic Church) and hear their arguments.
I've already read summa, now taste summa this! *spoons meat-a-balls and sunday gravy into your mouth*
see
I'm not who you're talking to. You're just embarrassing.
Just look at that clown you are posting. Straight Pride? What is he, a facebook boomer. No sense for beauty. Sad.
I encourge you to watch some steven anderson
Several, the best being
Passion of the Christ
The Gospel According to Matthew
Andrei Rublev
The Ten Commandments
Passion of the Christ was garbage. Probably better if you speak Hebrew and are anything but a reader of The Book.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vatican%27s_list_of_films
Andrei Rublev (1966)
Babette's Feast (1987)
Ben-Hur (1959)
The Flowers of St. Francis (1950)
Francesco (1989)
The Gospel According to St. Matthew (1964)
La Passion de Notre Seigneur Jesus-Christ (1905)
A Man for All Seasons (1966)
The Mission (1986)
Monsieur Vincent (1947)
Nazarin (1958)
Ordet (1955)
The Passion of Joan of Arc (1928)
The Sacrifice (1986)
Therese (1986)
These plus several of Scorsese and Malick's films
All movies Mel Gibson directed
Jesus of Nazareth (1977)
Scorcese is terrible.
>Scorsese is terrible
>Passion of the Christ is soooooo good
Yes. Last Temptation is deeply heretical.
Reminder
My church youth group went to see the Passion when it came out and my buddy got nachos but he got in trouble with the youth pastor for being disrespectful. Looking back the pastor was 100% in the right.
Let us eat and drink, for tomorrow we die.
>if the dead are not raised
>But Christ has indeed been raised from the dead
Nice try.
your pastor is a homosexual
Last Temptation has a banging soundtrack tho
Passion was also spoken in Latin, Hebrew and Aramaic for peake kino.
Passion has that pointless stuff about the Albino Trans Devil though
"Ostrov" or "The Island" is great Orthodox Christian kino. It's about a conflicted monk who struggles to come to terms with the great evils he has done in his past.
Andrei Rublev is a poor representation of Christianity by Soviet atheists. It's closer to medieval Latin Catholic theology than the Orthodox saint it's supposedly about.
>It's about a conflicted monk who struggles to come to terms with the great evils he has done in his past.
Does he kill himself and give all his shit to the people he wronged?
>monk
>all his shit
You don't really get monks do you?
No, you're thinking of another film. I'm not going to spoil the ending here.
>>No, you're thinking of another film.
I'm thinking of the only correct ending, so if he didn't do that, it's just bullshit propaganda.
Yeah the guy who swore of earthly possessions should give his non existent possessions away and commit suicide. This is why you don’t write screenplays
You clearly don't understand Christian monasticism then.
>You clearly don't understand Christian monasticism then.
Sure I do, it's just an convenient escape route rich homosexual criminals can take to never face the consequences of their actions or redeem themselves.
what are you basing that on? nothing but pure reddit fuelled seethe?
The movie we're discussing?
That’s not what happens in the movie though
>convenient escape route rich homosexual criminals
Atheists actually believe this.
tarkovsky wasn’t an atheist. I’ve read his diaries (they got published a while back) and he’s a schizo tier christian. the soviets censored the movie
I recognize that he did put much more representation of the (at the time) seriously oppressed Russian Orthodox Church than any other Soviet filmmaker at the time, but he got a lot of stuff wrong, bordering on blasphemous even.
>portrays Andrei Rublev as interested in sex, even though he was a tonsured monastic iconographer at the time
>portrays an argument between Rublev and another monk about painting a icon with hellfire and people being tortured in hell to inspire fear in believers, which is exaggerated reality on the point of ridiculous
There were other small details, but those were things that really didn't set well with me, since the movie is supposed to be a monastic saint.
I know what you mean, and those are his weird flourishes, but he was a christian. I don’t really mind a monk being tempted either since they’re still human beings
Tark is christian
Should I go to Church more often?
Nosferatu (1922)
Becket (Richard Burton & Peter O'Toole)
Jesus of Nazareth
Lilies of the Field
Indiana Jones & The Last Crusade
Nacho Libre unironically has one of the most honest depictions of someone struggling with faith
Home Alone
how film illiterate are fedoras?
>passion of joan of arc
>man for all seasons
>silence
>calvary
>tree of life
>flowers of st francis
>andrei rublev
off the top of my head. there’s many more
Yes, go watch Catholic films instead of Protestant ones.
No thanks. I'm already gay.
Well enjoy your cheap propaganda flicks then
Mad max fury road
forgive me for what i'm about to do with these girls
Of Gods and Men was good. Based Lambert Wilson.
>'The Lord of the Rings' is of course a fundamentally religious and Catholic work; unconsciously so at first, but consciously in the revision. That is why I have not put in, or have cut out practically all references to anything like 'religion,' to cults or practices, in the imaginary world.
Reminder that atheists, queers, women, and various pagans/heathens cannot possibly understand or properly appreciate The Lord of the Rings.
Based.
varg on suicide watch
As someone who believes in God and the wisdom of the Bible and of Jesus, this is disappointing to me. This is partly because of his Catholicism but also because, in my experience, people who constantly think about and profess their faith are using it as a shield or a hiding place. They don't think they're strong enough to do what's right and constantly ask for help instead of just quietly keeping the faith and doing what they already know and feel to be right. I don't believe God would fail to give you guidance on the correct path just because you didn't pray for it, that's a dick move and runs counter to Him wanting us to succeed. I also really am bothered by Tolkien saying everything is a conflict of good and evil, and especially by him pitting God and the Devil as the motivating factors. God is good and motivates good things but to say everything good is solely because of God is to deny a lot of good people ant credit. On the flip side, saying that evil is because of Satan is a massive cop out- people are evil because they want to be evil, because it's convenient or profitable or just plain fun. To say otherwise is to let any number of bad actors off the hook.
Unfathomably based
Tolkien's work is blasphemous garbage, albeit unintentionally, that has poisoned Christianity in the English speaking world with useless and defective ideas.
Name 2.
The concept of sub-creation is meaningless and his primitivism is blasphemy.
u mad?
>My monotheism is super-duper-special, you cannot understand my religious texts or texts based on my religious framework.
Typical abrahamic bullshit.
that doesn't make any sense, it's religious so that's why it's not religious? not only that but it was consciously based on The Silmarillion which is a mess of mono- and polytheism
A Hidden Life
King of Kings (1961) is very kino. It is only really cheesy in the last 10 minutes. Some of the actors are terrible, though. The actress that plays Salome sucks (understandable, she was only 16 or 17 iirc), pretty much all the disciples (except Rip Torn), Herod's wife.
This is kino but tv/ has a short attention span they won't be able to watch 3 hour kino like this.
constantine
>pantyline
left behind with kirk cameron is not good or kino but it is worth watching. it's a trilogy and like half the cast is gone in the third one because of scheduling conflicts
The "cheesy progaganda" movies are all made by American evangelicals
>tfw they ruined Narnia and stripped it of all it Christianity
>tfw Netflix is going to rape its corpse
>lanklet
>always expects the worst out of every situation
>understands atheist and nihilist talking points but still chooses to believe
>dickyseur[spoiler]
he's literally me[/spoiler]
I like Silence, although I found it a bit confusing until after I'd read the book
That's because it's a Martin Scorcese adaptation and his "Christian" movies are really just anti-Christian.
Finally, somebody said it. I don't watch Scorsese's films especially because they are blasphemous and heretical to an extreme. "The Last Temptation of Christ" was outright banned in Greece for many years. I wish it still was.
It did lead to some live tv kino
>Oprah hosts panel to discuss the movie
>has Christian leaders of various denominations offer their thoughts
>Greek Orthodox priest gets mad the Catholics and Protestants don’t condemn the film
>starts yelling about Nestorianisn and the hypostases of Christ and other high-concept theology you learn in seminary
>audience has no idea what they’re arguing about
>black preacher stands up and goes “ayo wut the Bahble say tho?”
Skip to 25:50 in.
Impossible. Italians can't not be Catholic.
I wish.
The exorcist unironically.
That is a dog vegana. Is this meant to be shocking? They don’t exactly hide them
A quiet place
Is dis any good
Yes. It's around 2 hours shorter but it's still worthwile.
Well that looks much better than the assy version I watched, which was also way too long.
Theatrical is 5h, Redivivus is 3h.
The Exorcist
I'm gonna give you my Letterboxd list.
>Passion of the Christ
>Calvary
>Silence
>Hacksaw Ridge
>Chariots of Fire
>Ben-Hur
>It's a Wonderful Life
>Risen
>The Gospel According to St Matthew
>Jesus of Nazareth miniseries (despite the Judas stuff)
>The Island (Russian movie)
>The Bible miniseries
>The Monk and the Demon (Russian movie)
>The Way
>Prince of Egypt
>The Ten Commandments
>The Nativity Story
>Rocky II (yes)
>Soul Surfer
>Father Stu
I wish there were more Orthodox movies in English. Hopefully with the sort of Orthodox revolution going on in America there might be some.
can’t believe nobody mentioned it’s a wonderful life yet.
Add:
Joseph: King of Dreams, Excalibur, The Deluge, Braveheart, Passion of Joan of Arc, Quo Vadis, The Lord of the Rings, The Tree of Life
Remove:
Silence
joan of arc really is a masterpiece. performances, cinematography, feels like it could have been made yesterday
Yup
>Orthodox revolution
>50 new recruits per year
kek
"The Monk and the Demon" has apocatastasis as part of the ending, which is the heresy of universal salvation for everyone, even the devil and the demons. It's a bit of a fun movie, but when they pulled that out, I realized it's really just a Trojan horse.
>even the devil and the demons
Not on my watch. If Satan ends up in heaven I'm pooping on his lawn every morning.
Yeah you're right.
That's the issue with a lot of Christian movies. They're all well and good except that almost all of them have a heresy of some kind.
I think when watching there's a degree of discernment you need to take when watching these movies.
You most certainly wouldn't tell a new convert "hey watch Jesus of Nazareth where Judas is a sympathetic character, The Monk and the Demon which has a heresy that you might easily fall for, The Last Temptation of Christ which is blatant heresy and any protestant movie or show that refuses to ever acknowledge the Trinity and that Christ is God". But if you're a Christian who feels comfortable in the Faith you should be strong enough to say "okay, that's incorrect" without completely disregarding a film.
>muh heresy
Not only does no one care but you sound like a frickin ancient old bastard.
The trinity:
1. Is not necessary- should I have just rejected what Jesus said if he was "merely" the son of God and not God himself? and why does it basically invent the holy spirit from like two mentions as a full third leg of the thing? That's because-
2. It's influenced by pagan numerology- the number 3 has ancient significance and probably inherent psychological "completeness" and I guarantee you that's why the ancient pre-schism leaders jumped on and shoehorned in the holy spirit. Not only that but most importantly...
3. It has no fricking bearing on how to live your life! Am I supposed to specifically be worried about what Jesus will think but not God? That makes no sense and no one thinks that way. Am I supposed to pray to the holy spirit? Again, nonsense, and no one does it (and don't bring up "in the name of the father, the son and the holy spirit" because that's a lazy catch-all like much of Catholic and Orthodox theology). Am I supposed to look for signs and guidance from one and not the other two? See, this all falls apart on inspection as something to be looked at in light of what to actually do with your life and not "well actually" autistic-style debate.
News flash: a preponderance of the founding fathers were Unitarian, they didn't believe in the trinity at all! Is that not good enough for you?
Just be a good person and keep the faith, stop quibbling about bullshit.
Rocky II is absolutely a Christian movie
silence is anti-christian at its core
>NOOOOO YOU *HAVE* TO LET YOURSELF BE PAINFULLY MURDERED OR YOUR FAITH ISN'T REAL NOOOOOOOO
>Jesus died for me but I can’t die for Jesus
>Ignores all the verses that praise martyrs.
>thinks denying Christ to avoid persecution is okay
Cathcucks everyone.
you got filtered if you think that
IDK, it doesn't present his apostasy as just and says nothing about the fate of his soul. He's a man who bends and breaks under the weight of his faith, which is relatable either way.
Best Protestant movie, ever.
what are some religious action movies like book of eli and priest (the vampire movie)?
Constantine
Exorcist 3
Jesus Christ Superstar
Boondock Saints
Legion, Constantine, and The Prophecy if you like thrillers.
every movie featuring denzel washington playing a white man ("clean cut black guy")
NINTH CONFIGURATION
Omen trilogy
Christ only turns up the 3rd act. Omen is just hollywood made up crap anyway.
Mouchette
Diary Of A County Priest
Under The Sun Of Satan
Diary of a country priest is comfy kino.
Yeah I need to rewatch it
>the subtle glimpse of feet
I fricking love when you walk behind a woman in thongs/sandals in the supermarkt and they bend down to grab something and do that sole reveal
holy based
fricking foot bawds
Seek help immediately
>665
I see you hiding, Satan
The seventh seal is utter kino
true but it’s more like agnostic kino
He busted in, "Blessed be the Lord, who believes any mess they read up on a message board. If so, I got bridges for the low low."
Women wear garish strings but this here is what's actually hot.
toes
Best 5 hours https://youtu.be/7Eeo-82Eac8
Changed my life.
I'm genuinely in shock. Jesus is actually real?
This guy needs to take his meds
I kind of want to make a super cut of the life of Jesus Christ
Something like 1200 ghosts but based on the gospels
Yeah, everything non-protestant
Ten commandments
Price of Egypt
And Ben Hur maybe
Prince of Egypt*
That brief moment in the late 90's when it was still cool to be religious and Jeff Goldblum starred in a movie where Val Kilmer plays God.
"..for the growing good of the world is partly dependent on unhistoric acts; and that things are not so ill with you and me as they might have been, is half owing to the number who lived faithfully a hidden life, and rest in unvisited tombs."
>Heh God? I remember that guy. He was a real jerk.
Raiders of the Lost Ark
Indiana Jones and the Holy Grail
You get the usual Telavivwood portrayal of WW2 era Germans as unhinged monsters but what're you gonna do
There was an era in the 70s/80s where Christianity was just passively accepted as “true” in Hollywood movies. It wasn’t cause Hollywood was run by devout Christians or anything, it’s just it was the default worldview among normies so screenwriters used it as a basis for fantasy/magical systems.
Indiana Jones is a good example, and probably the most clear and in your face. Others would be Ghostbusters and The Exorcist.
Nowadays that’s long over. It’s the multiverse instead
Keep in mind that nowadays the most consistently successful paranormal/horror movies (Blumhouse stuff, including The Conjuring) also establish as its essential and only sensible premise that the Word of Christ is true.
So do several other movies such as The VVitch, A Dark Song etc
>Indiana Jones
have you even seen temple of Doom?
it treats Hinduism like the force from SW, there's a good side (represented by shiva) and a dark side (represented by kali and the thuggee cult). When Mola Ram falls down the cliff (like the emperor in SW) Indy even yells at him "you have betrayed shiva!"
this. indy is very perennialist. all religions are obviously aspects of a higher truth/ they are all true.
Have you seen Raiders Of The Lost Ark and The Last Crusade?
Bad Lieutenant
Ben-Hur is the greatest film ever made.
Children of Men
Machine Gun Preacher.
Risen is the best I've seen. The best depiction of Christ. He isn't some white dude, He looks like he would have and the story feels the most genuine.
>He isn't some white dude
>He looks like he would have
Pick one and only one.
To quote Fred Sanford
>You can't hang around Jerusalem no thirty-some years and don't wear no hat and stay white.
Jesus was a middle eastern israelite for fricks sake.
Not sure about the actors heritage but Jesus certainly didn't look like a Maori either. Just because He was olive skinned, doesn't mean that any olive/brown person could play Him.
Bernadette (1988) is probably the only "good" catholic film made
the medium really is a waste for Christians
which is funny because no one even mentioned it lol
the 1940's version is better and it doubles as a horror movie if you are an atheist
Jesus Christ Super Star
They're praying for BBC
Big Biblical wiener
blessed baptism cherub
Bring Back Christ
This one is great.
http://decentfilms.com/articles/vaticanfilmlist
List of kino from the Vatican
Star wars og trilogy unironically
Those two things are conflicting so no.
is this how atheists cope with 90% of the literary and artistic canon being christian?
>poops AIDS blood onto a canvas
Checkmate Christians.
you’re forgetting rick and morty chud
Of what?
“the western canon” is the phrase you want to google culturally illiterate bro
Babette's Feast
Ordet
Anything by Tarkovsky or Malick
Dekalog
Bedazzled
I dunno
"Oh,God!"
Luther
(Joseph Fiennes as Martin Luther & Peter Ustinov as Prince Frederick)
Luther kind of ruined Christianity/Europe but he also hated them extremely hard. Really torn on him.
Is this about the pervert who ruined Christianity?
The Fourth Wise Man
Mustafa piece of shit eating c**t
Don't feed the simpleton.
There's constant anti christian propaganda in the media because of israelites. Imagine simping for israeli media
Redwall
The Exorcist
My gf is a virgin and Christian and we’ve had to do all sorts of things to get around sex but still have fun when she wants to get me off
I’ve even rubbed my dick between her feet to cum
Hopefully veganal sex is more fun
you peaked getting the footjob. lucky man
marry her you fricking pussy
yeah I've heard that before. make sure she doesn't give you warts
>routinely has sexual contact that any christcuck would consider absolutely haram
>i'm a virgin tee hee
At least the israelites have cooler loopholes, like magical strings and ghost elevators. Just frick already.
>hhahahaha israelites are SO BASED hahah
classic
I'm just saying that
>god is perfect and cannot commit mistakes
>so his book is perfect and has no mistakes
>meaning that any loophole i find is not really a loophole
>so frick you my oven can cook dinner automatically
Is a lot less stupid than playing hide the pickle and pretending you are not fricking.
Anyways you all are Abrahamics, so you are basically the same shit.
yeah trite legalism is super spiritual. if someone wants to wait for actual penetration until they are married (couples who do this are way happier and more likely to stay together on average) I don’t see why that should upset you. if he gets foot jobs from his gf that’s frankly what incredibly based, so I don’t see the reason to weigh in and start sucking off israelites out of nowhere
>couples who do this are way happier and more likely to stay together on average
mormon-tier cope
>hide the pickle
>let us read from the epistle of Toe-job Tony
>Hoc porcellum parvum ad forum perrexit
>et factum est bonum.
Bruh. There is no tricking God.
Winter Light is probably my favorite faith focused film.
I always thought TWBB had some pretty good influences in it. I know it isn't explicitly or intentionally, but I thought Daniel presented a pretty good example of a heart hardened without God and Eli a good example of a bad Christian, full of pride and corrupts himself in the end
A Danish guy once told me that he believes the film is about a wealthy materialist who poisons everything he touches before killing the antichrist at the end. I don't know how much I believe that but it's always stuck with me.
Take Shelter
Signs
Is First Reformed a good Christian movie? Or is it subversive/anti-Christian?
Haven't seen it but seemed subversive to me. I think Schrader did it.
It's a Christian movie with an environmentalist message, drawing from the call for stewardship over the earth in Genesis. It also criticizes megachurch pastors, but it doesn't beat you over the head with it.
Not once does the main character question his faith or does the movie make Christianity look ridiculous.
Shoes of the Fisherman, 1968:
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0063599/
Going My Way, 1944:
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0036872/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1
A Man Called Peter, 1955:
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0048337/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1
The Cardinal, 1963:
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0056907/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1
The Bells of St Mary's, 1945:
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0037536/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1
>Evangelicals
They actually gain followers because they are proselytism machines. The literally can't make non-chessy propaganda, they don't know how to be subtle.
>Catholics
Able to be subtle and able to insert religious themes in an actual narrative.
First Reformed
Finna put summ'ing holy in that ass know what I'm say'n?
The Robe
Christians are more revolting than trannies and pagan LARPers combined.
those are actually one group but I feel you
>trannies and pagan LARPers combined.
Redundant.
Go back to your capeshit thread pal, adults are talking. You could be talking about how the latest star wars manchild shit offends your political sensibilities instead.
>The adults are talking about israeli blood-drinking death cults, kid.
Ok.
This. Science says God isn't even real. I mean we have satellites and stuff. He's not up there.
Scientismists are just as fricking moronic and probably socially more toxic than Christians, trannies, and pagan LARPers.
I know this is a troll, but the only reason that heaven is treated by Christians as another plane of existence instead of the literal sky is technological advancement.
then why the frick do you get medieval christian philosophers saying its immaterial?
>the kingdom of heaven is among you... oops I meant it's in THE SKY
How are you so sure the black science man didn't lie to you to intentionally get you to damn yourself?
Yes there have been plenty of high quality films mentioned ITT. Nothing you have to attention span for, that’s why I suggested that the twitter threads and disney products might be more your speed.
>this makes the incel midwit forth with rage
Red State
Saved
Yes God Yes
>pale dicky feet
hnngg
Winter Light.
Silence by Scorcese
Absolution (1978). A cheeky pubescent thriller about the sacrament of confession.
A Serious Man. Just pretend instead of being israeli, he's catholic.
Great flick but it relies too much on the israeli conception of God as more overtly aloof and distant, doesn't translate so easily.
“Jews” are atheist anon.
Everything in western cinema is a Christian or post Christian film. Christendom is like water and we’re the fish. Almost everything we take for granted in the world comes from Christ. And the things we decide to question are also things we got from our Christian heritage. If you haven’t read the Bible you can’t understand art.
The Printing
My favorite christian movie
Friday the 13th is a classic