Are there any examples of a comic adaptation causing a permanent change in the source material for the worst? i.e. characterization, tone, movie synergy, etc.
Are there any examples of a comic adaptation causing a permanent change in the source material for the worst? i.e.
Pic related is the prime example. Add in Adam west and lego Batman of course.
I’d also say Teen Titans even though I liked it as a a kid. And I’m not taking ttg (I’ve never seen that).
>Adam West
Batman got better in comics thanks to Adam West the years before are rough.
That’s simply untrue. Batman got better when O’Neil instituted the “only at night” and “only through windows” rules. I guess because of the show but not in a flattering light.
New look era Batman better than pre-new look post-comic code Batman.
West bought back classic villains into that.
New Look Batman was years before AdamWest though.
True,but Dennis getting away from the classic villains was a good thing too. They aren’t being used well.
Teen Titans cartoon saved Cyborg and i daresay is the only reason he's popular and got shoehorned into the Justice League
the teen titans, and the new teen titans comic line it was inspired by, have been such a definitive version of the team that people are usually confused or disappointed when they try to bring back the original side kicks lineup
>slade/deathstroke as the main villain, instead of fad villains like ding dong daddy
>robin and starfire instead of robin and batgirl
>beast boy as a titan instead of doom patroller
>cyborg as a titan instead of JL member, or superfriends member
about the only thing that didnt stick is wonder girl, who was cucked out of the 2003 show and from young justice
The only reason why Cyborg is in the JL is because Geoff Johns didn’t want John Stewart as the GL rep, so he used Cyborg as the black guy rep.
symbiote spider-man being angry and becoming a rage fueled villain with no morals
dont remember if that started with the cartoon or spider-man 3
The cartoon is what started the angry part.
SHOCKERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
But that's kino. It's like Super Saiyan for him but it comes at the cost of extreme aggression and changes in behaviour
That's corny and gay as frick. Spider-Man's not a moron, he's supposed to be a genius. He wouldn't let something like that on him if he knew it were alive or making him act like that.
Or rather what should it been for Super Saiyan, has toriyama actually plan stuff, with Goku actually becoming more early vegeta like once going SSJ and now being the antagonist, since the prophecy said that only one with a dark heart will become the legend, remember goku was barely controlling himself in its rage and he treathened his own son and only cared about killing freeza, he didnt cared at all about his friends anymore, and yes, i am going by non-FUNI dub.
But then Toriyama in his infinite who the frick cares, he discarded the idea, and it went nowhere, now he even retcon that SSJ is just a powerup you get by a ticking sense in your back and thats how you accomplish it.
SEVEN WORDS
E S C E N C E
The S being Kryptonian and not just S for Superman
I have mixed feelings. On the one hand I like when Ma Kent made it for him as a gift.
On the other I like the House of El and Kryptonian alphabet. It's world-building and not just
>i went to the Fortress and learned everything trust me 😉
What about that one time where it was an old Injun medicine man snake pattern the Kents picked up when they were settlers in the 19th century?
That was retconned IN that show to be Kryptonian explorers who left their mark.
t. Just spent the last month and a half rewatching smallville
I was thinking of that 90's mini-series about the Kent family, makes sense Smallville would reference it.
I like what happens in the Tom DeHaven Superman novel:Luthor makes the (tear-proof) suit because Clark keeps ripping his first one and he wants his archnemesis to be somewhat presentable
That book in-general is pretty great, if WB had any balls it would be a great one-off "Golden Age" Superman movie.
Agreed
The audio drama version (by Graphic Audio) is worthwhile if you haven’t heard it
I've never seen anyone else on this site that listened to GraphicAudio. I'm glad to see someone else with refined taste.
Batman Dead Eyes remains the best one.
It's Superman! is so fricking great.
>"What is that accent? Kansas? Oklahoma? Somewhere out East I'll bet."
>"I know you're trying to hide it dear boy but you still just sound like a yokel."
I regret not buying it in a used book sale
Speaking of that, while I wouldn't call it negative, Superman wasn't from Kansas until the 79 movie. The Kents were also not farmers until then.
Justice League/Unlimited turned John Stewart from the comics into the most boring main lantern.
I don't think you guys read OP's question correctly.
You didn’t respond to anyone and all of the anons that gave an answer had valid complaints. You likely just disagree that they were damaging.
No, I disagree because it's literally not what OP asked. OP said comic adaptations.
Nick Fury. Samuel L. Jackson is fine, but the OG was fricking awesome.
I will for forever be bitter about Hawkeyes classic look getting retired for an MCU synergy tshirt
It surprises me Thor still has his helmet.
They've given Thor helmets, even if they're not completely comic accurate. Movie Clint is just a random generic specops mook that isn't even called Hawkeye most of the time, and I say that as someone who unironically liked the D+ show, but he's almost nothing like comic Hawkeye.
That's more on Ultimate
That was Ultimates fault, not movies.
MCU Iron Man. They could've at least adapted the alcoholism from the comic.
i thought he did get drunk and him and war machine beefed in that party scene? i haven’t seen it in years.
He did, but fans wanted an adaptation of Demon In A Bottle, which was rewritten to Tony slowly suffering from being poisoned by the metal from his reactor.
You can thank Obama's republic of hitlerstan for that
That was the plan for Iron Man 2, it seemed pretty obvious the movie suffered from a massive re-write in the 11th hour to not make it 'Demon in a Bottle'.
In 20 to 25 years there will be a reboot that's "a darker take on Iron Man" and "Closer to the Original" and that should be the thought that keeps you awake at night.
>closer to the original
>running around in shining gold armor because his original grey monstrosity made a girl cry
>and fighting robot cavemen controlled by aliens
>primarily fights by using stark tech to boost the power of any electronic device several times over, allowing him to tear tanks apart with magnets
it would be pretty funny if it was just silver age madness like in his ToF appearances
Yeah, but in a weird bid to appeal to the ultra dark DCEU fans, he'll drink heavily and give Pepper and Nat two black eyes each for daring to speak to him.
No you're thinking of Hank Pym. And if that's not bad enough not only will Spider-Man and Hulk have been molested as kids but they will kill their girlfriends with irradiated semen.
>close to classic comics
We don't live in the good timeline, anon.
I genuinely don't know when the Joker Wank started. But him having the plot armour of heracles feels like it started with Dark Knight along with having him under so much security that it makes Jigsaw's death traps look like an amusement park.
Maybe the 89 movie. That made him the killer of the Waynes.
Yeah but at least in the 89 movies he still had gags. He had a deadly comedic edge to him. Guns with giant barrels. Air Balloons filled with Toxic Laughing Gas. Acid Squirt Flowers.
Meanwhile in the dark knight he's just a terrorist with molotov wienertails and knives. In comics he gets more deadly with simpler weapons.
TDK Joker is still funny, he's just doing literal clown slapstick
NOT* doing clown slapstick
I love how TDK Joker sometimes acts like a whiny 15-year-old teenager.
I think I misinterpreted your point then. Semi-related but I haven't really seen Riddler reinvented to be more like he is in The Batman.
TDK Joker is just Riddler in clown makeup
it's warpaint.
but he never makes any riddle
I think the 89 movie made him the top Bat villain above all the others. But it was Dark Knight that made him into the beloved ultra deep, insightful, society man that really weird freaks fricking love to death.
>I think the 89 movie made him the top Bat villain above all the others.
Joker was popular even in the Adam West show though
He hadn't dazzled the public until the 89 movie. That thing really grabbed adults and kids. People who didn't give a shit about cartoons and comics even watched it. It is as important to the idea of triple A action movies as Terminator 2 and Aliens.
I watched the Adam West movie not too long ago and was surprised to see Joker playing fourth fiddle to the other three villains who are all much more important to the plan while Jokers treated as mostly comic relief.
Joker was not really considered to be the main nemesis of Batman until Nicholson
That's revisionist bullshit, Joker's been Batman's arch-nemesis since he got his own solo series from DC in 1975 where they say on the cover he's "Batman's Number-One Foe"
..................was NOT the arch nemesis until Nicholson. Try reading a fricking comic moviegay. You might actually learn Ledger did not invent Joker
the real breakout character was probably the riddler
thanks to gorshins 10/10 performance
>hated the spandex suit so much he asked for a tailored green suit, this has become his default outfit ever since
>colored audience perception so much that riddler was seen as a main member of the batman rogues gallery even though he had already become a laughing stock in the comics and wouldnt be relevant again until the 90s
He's been portrayed as being so insane it affects things on a meta-level since the 70s. It was a big thing in his short-lived solo series and even in the DC/Marvel crossover where The Shaper of Worlds sought him out.
Wasn't it an 80s thing where Joker was insane because he was aware he was in a comic book?
A "comic adaptation" is an adaptation in comic form.
An "adaptation of a comic" is an adaption where the original media was a comic.
Maybe I'm confused but if that's what's meant the OP's image isn't a clear example at all of that.
In any case, the thread seems to have drifted into Adaptions in general. But to be clear what OP was looking for was shit that was NOT in comics, that was then PUT into comics, that fricking sucked?
Anon, you're responding to a moronic autist who thinks he's being clever despite the fact that "comic adaptation" can and very clearly in this context does mean adaptation of a comic.
He's either a moron with a 6th grade understanding of the english language, or a foreign moron with a 6th grade understanding of the english language.
That’s not what a comic adaptation is nor what OP meant you massive autistic fricking homosexual
Guardians of the Galaxy probably got hit the worst when it comes to synergy. I'm sure there's been a lotta people trying to write the movie versions without catching onto what made James Gunn's characters work, or doing their research on the comics.
The game that nobody played surprisingly did everything right and I’d argue better than James Gunn
Yeah, I was gonna add a little addendum about that being the surprise exception. The team's lineup and most of their designs are based on the movies, but the game's writing actually pulled it off. It really felt like the game had its own identity and took the characters into places I didn't expect, in a good way.
Game's a perfect fusion of the Abnett/Lanning stuff with Gunn's take. Neither one takes precedence over the other, it's remarkable.
Keaton > Affleck > Bale > Clooney > others
>keaton
Nah. After the Flash he gets knocked down. And shame on you for forgetting about Kilmer.
I don't count Flash
Yes. A little comic called the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles was never quite the same when their first cartoon released.
Actually. The creators' own greed did that.
>want to sell more toys
>have to make cartoon to do it
>"no can do. Comic is too violent"
>ah geez dood. okay baby my shit up. Put colors on the masks and put letters on their belts so these morons can tell them apart. cause I guess the weapons aren't enough
Never the same, absolutely. Worse? I'm willing to contest that.
I say this in the storytime threads but taking the ninja violence away from the NINJA turtles is what's holding the TMNT from reaching new heights. There is no reason Leonardo should have not one but TWO swords and not use one for sword purposes.
Hey man, if he's not holding two katanas at once how is he meant to keep his balance when he does a roundhouse kick?
He's... a ninja. Is this a line from something because it seems like something someone would say
It did get back into the original groove eventually, for better or worse.
Oh, we're bringing TMNT into this?
How about
>Karai is Shredder's daughter
I absolutely hate this and it's very a big part of why I don't enjoy 2003 as much as most of you do. And it keeps bleeding everywhere.
Karai as the overall leader of the Foot Clan and an ally to the Turtles is cool.
Annoying indecisive
>MUH MASS MURDERING PSYCHOPATH FATHER
b***h is insufferable and makes me want to vomit.
Yea the only cartoon to not make them related is Rise
Mr. Freeze episode of Batman TAS. Toyman from Superman TAS. Believe it or not I liked the Toyman from the comics. Both the Marrionette and fat ass Winslow Schott.
And I'm not complaining about either change btw. I like both changes
They've done a halfway decent job of merging the two versions of Toyman in the modern comics by having Winslow use the puppet as an IRL avatar at times.
The Teen Titans cartoon turned Starfire and Raven from badass warrior princess and a cool dark witch to generic moe b***h and a depressed emo/goth thot respectively
It is really weird how they changed raven so much. I like the show one better but its just odd how the comics is basically a normal girl who happens to be a tragic character and the cartoon is a goth girl who would actually want that sort of thing.
Changed her powers too. Comic Raven was an empath with not a whole lot of offensive abilities at all. Now comic Raven is a lot like carton Raven, the most powerful member of the team
Superman getting that lame ass Crystal fortress from the movies instead of his cool cave fortress that he built himself
Superman started to be drawn more like Christopher Reeve after the movie.
Captain Cold took the personality of the version in the show
Maybe not in the comics but Penguin was affected by the Gotham version.
>Superman started to be drawn more like Christopher Reeve after the movie.
This, but replace Superman with Blade and Christopher Reeve with Wesley Snipes.
Oof. Forgot that one. No more biker outfit. Say hello to the new trenchcoat order.
It wasn't all bad. For a moment, it gave us something funny.
People tend to forget but the first time Blade was depicted as a dhampir was Spider-Man The Animated Series. Prior to that he was just human.
This was partly because Blade's appearance on Spider-Man the Animated Series was meant to be publicity for the first Blade movie, it was based on his depiction in the first film's script and also why Whistler was in it, but production was delayed to after that episode aired.
Speaking of whch, Whistler, Blade's right hand man debuted in that same Spider-man animated series and was carried over to the movies a few years later.
Also, at one point, Spider-Man took on organic webbing sometime after the first Raimi movie.
Someone with more knowledge. Did comics Magneto change to fit around the origin of the movie?
Comics Magneto was a holocaust survivor before the movies did it. He didn't start that way mind you. The movie uniforms where they were actual uniforms and not unique costumes was adapted into the comics with New X-Men, Morrison leapt on that.
His helmet did. He had a helmet that gave him telepathic powers, Stan Lee wrote him with telepathic powers, and he was immune to mind reading on his own, but Ultimate X-Men and then Morrison’s X-Men brought the helmet blocking it into the comic.
Magneto was created in 1963, but didn't have an origin until the early 80s, where he was made a Holocaust survivor. The big change the movies made was outright confirming him as israeli, where the comics had spent almost 20 years either implying it but not outright stating, or a few years where he was said to be a gypsy.
The first X-Men movie did also result in the comics altering the appearances of Mystique and Toad to look like the movie, but it didn't last long. The real big change was the movies influencing the comics to bring up the Scott - Jean - Logan triangle again and then kill Jean.
The movie also cut Rogue's breasts off.
No I think that was Kitty
>as opposed to breaking people knees on the regular?
Nah, it's just criminals'.
It was both. The cartoon after the first movie came out had Rogue as a petite and relatively powerless as well. She just had her base mutant power and not the flight or super strength.
I think they were trying to phase out Rogue's stolen Ms. Marvel powers in the comics after the first movie portrayed her without.
Which is admittedly LAME
Specially for poor Carol, the one thing she did that ever mattered
The Superman radio show had a massive influence. Debuted kryptonite and Jimmy Olsen, though subsequent portrayals of Jimmy sort of conflate him with Beanie Martin, a more overtly comic relief character than Jimmy, who was closer to Terry Lee and Junior Tracy, and was in fact created to say the lines of those characters in scripts recycled from their respective shows. The character in the Fleischer cartoons people assume is a proto-Jimmy is actually Beanie Martin. The way Superman, and to some extent Batman and Robin, were portrayed in the comics was influenced by the radio versions, which is to say that the show helped obliterate any vestiges of the pulp influences evident in the earliest iterations of the characters and laid the groundwork for the friendlier Silver Age versions, basically to appease the “blood and thunder”-averse moms of America. Superman fighting the KKK got a lot of positive press in a time where boys’ media was widely vilified, and that spotlight changed the Superman “brand” forever, made it Americana.
>Daily Planet errand boy, the only one lower than Jimmy on totem pole
Now this is some deep lore that needs to be resurrected, he even showed up in a Filmation cartoon voiced by the same guy who played him on radio
There was a character in Lois & Clark they could have named after him, though he didn't feel like a comic relief.
Instead of killing off Jimmy in Smallville and replacing him with his younger brother they could've used him.
But no. We had to have Chloe lose her virginity because we had to know that Jimmy Olsen Fricks
>Instead of killing off Jimmy in Smallville and replacing him with his younger brother they could've used him.
I... didn't know he dies. Been following the show, as I never watched the whole thing.
Geez, not only do they rush over Supes' whole career before he even gets a costume, they also kill off his supporting cast?
Fun fact. Snyder didn't adapt any Superman comics. Instead he adapted Smallville. I recommend watching up to season 10 and then Man of Steel and Batman v Superman. Everything is like an edgier take on Smallville. Smallville has tornado? Man of Steel has a Tornado. Smallville Pa Kent almost kills someone to protect Clark. Snyder writes Jon Kent to be conflicted. Smallville kills off Jimmy Olsen? Snyder kills off Jimmy Olsen. There are tons of other similarities.
You’re reaching.
It wasn’t the actual Jimmy. He’s supposed to be Comic Jimmy’s older brother, Henry James Olsen. The actual Jimmy, the little brother, is James Bartholomew Olsen. Chloe even hands dead Jimmy’s camera to the kid, expressing that maybe he could follow in his older bro’s footsteps. https://youtu.be/q-PmzxmQVJg
trying to make mr freeze a serious character instead of the wacky goofball that he is
BTAS Mr. Freeze stole the backstory of another ice supervillain called the Cryonic Man, before that he was very one note. It's why he's in limbo in Morrison's Animal Man, because literally no one cared about Mr. Freeze before the cartoon version made him iconic.
Also BTAS' version of Clayface has slowly supplanted all other versions. Before that he was several separate characters, the most notable ones being a Boris Karloff type actor with face melting powers and a dude made of shapeshifting clay. The BTAS version mixed the backstory of the former with the powers of the latter.
To be fair, Clayface being an actor who transforms is a good idea.
Oh absolutely, it's a wonderfully change. You look at the first three incarnations of the character and wonder how it took them so long to get it right when the cartoon just sticks the landing flawlessly.
The first Clayface, Basil Karlo, had no powers and was just using the serial killer role he played to kill the people who were remaking his movie without his consent. Matt Hagen was the second and gained the familiar powers from finding magic clay in the ocean. B:TAS merged the two into one and came out better for it.
I think shortly after TAS, Karlo in the comics came out of retirement and killed off all the Clayfaces who came after him to take their powers for himself and become the sole shapeshifter among them.
>The first Clayface, Basil Karlo
I know comic names can be lazy, but come on.
Not related to comics, but there was an outcry when Sony ordered the replacement of Peter Parker's face in PS4 Spider-Man to a face which resembled Tom Holland's face.
Frick everybody who dared to say that looked nothing like MCU Spider-Man. Dishonest pricks.
But that pales in comparison to what they've done with Miles in the new game. I'm not a fan of Miles but that's pathetic.
Oh and don't forget The Avengers game trying hard to make the characters look like the movies but not.
>Oh and don't forget The Avengers game trying hard to make the characters look like the movies but not.
Marvel characters never being allowed to look like comic book characters is the worst thing the MCU ever did.
>But that pales in comparison to what they've done with Miles in the new game. I'm not a fan of Miles but that's pathetic.
....what did they do? I'm afraid to ask
They're trying to make him look like the Spiderverse version. But since he's built like a baseball player and not a geeky black twink all they can do is change his fro slightly
>change in the source material for the worst? i.
You could argue this for every woman Paul dini and Bruce Timm wrote for or created for dcau.
Like joker was better before having a side kick. Though that is debatable because mark hamils joker is really good in the first two seasons
Catwoman was hamstrung by having to connect it to Batman Returns and the staff writer they had who focused all her environmentalist shit on the character. She left after the first season but the damage was already done. Poison Ivy's a bit worse but not that much, at least until they changed her character design. Batgirl's barely in the show, and even when she's a regular she doesn't make much of an impression. Lois Lane's great, Supergirl's whatever. Wonder Woman's very meh, Hawkgirl's okay so long as you're fine with her having almost nothing to do with most comic versions. Any complaints you have about Teen Titans you can send to Glen Murakami, that shit's on him.
>Catwoman was hamstrung by having to connect it to Batman Returns
I don't think that's true. The show debuted just a few months after the movie. The BTAS character design is the old comic one (at least before the show redesign). The BTAS characterization also has nothing in common with the Batman Returns characterization.
Selina was definitely made blonde to look more like Michelle Pfeiffer, and while Catwoman's costume design is more her comic look than Batman Returns, Penguin DEFINITELY was redesigned to look more like the Burton/DeVito design than the classic comic design Timm was initially planning to use.
Sure, but other than the hair BTAS Catwoman is nothing like BR Catwoman in terms of character.
Is it fair to say the reason we have thot Harley instead of Female henchman Harley is because of the Arkham Asylum game? I know we had the rev your Harley scene in the cartoon but all these skimpy costumes and sexual proclivities seemed to have started with that. At least when I played LEGO Batman she didn't seem to be more than... like Echo and Query for the Riddler. Just a goon with a special outfit.
The Arkham series popularized Harley with normies and make biker bawd Harley the default. She was always popular, that's why she got folded into the actual comics after a few years, but those games are the root reason she's more popular than Wonder Woman these days.
>You could argue this for every woman Paul dini and Bruce Timm wrote for or created for dcau.
You could argue this for every character not Batman Paul Dini and Bruce Timm wrote for DCAU.
Nah. BTAS is praised for its excellent characterizations.
>BTAS is praised for its excellent characterizations.
>the only effort was placed on the show where Timm could self insert to his heart's content
No shit.
I have no idea what this autism is trying to say, but BTAS had fantastic characters. There's a reason it's so iconic.
>There's a reason it's so iconic.
Nostalgia.
Nah, it's enduringly popular even among younger people. Don't know why you're sperging so hard about this. Why does BTAS being good and popular make you so mad?
He's the guy who thinks Timm is solely responsible for every single thing in the DCAU he doesn't like, even though Dini probably is more culpable for that. Him and the dozens of other writers and storyboarders who worked on the show.
>Why does BTAS being good and popular make you so mad?
Nah, BTAS and BB are probably the peak of that era of mid to late 90s cartoons. It's not until TNBA and JL/U that it goes to shit.
BB Bruce is jlu and na Bruce.
Something changed in batman when he met supers face to face. His more rosey disposition died.
Though a lot of that is just the show moving to kids wb and them allowing a darker tone. The introduction of world ending threats changing bruces demeanor is probably just happenstance
>Nah, BTAS and BB are probably the peak of that era of mid to late 90s cartoons. It's not until TNBA and JL/U that it goes to shit.
TNBA started before Batman Beyond and had some of the best animated Batman episodes ever (Mad Love, Never Fear, Over the Edge, Growing Pains) you pleb.
Batman didn't even frick Batgirl in that one.
i still don't get why people care so much what comic book character is fricking who
Because its fricking wrong for Batman to frick his adopted son's love interest.
But he didn't frick Starfire.
Dick and Starfire hasn't been a couple since the early 90s.
It makes Batman look sleazy. Don't play dumb.
>It makes Batman look sleazy
as opposed to breaking people knees on the regular?
It's just cheap drama to bring in the views/reads, this exact reaction you are having is the reason it happened.
>as opposed to breaking people knees on the regular?
Yes, but you know this and are not making this comment in good faith.
>It's just cheap drama to bring in the views/reads, this exact reaction you are having is the reason it happened.
No, this is just Timm's own personal weird ship. He did it for his own edification, not for any shock or outrage value.
>you know this
you are putting words in my mouth and then accuse me of not arguing in good faith.
No i don't know nor believe Batman to be rightious and super moral, and have always liked the plot of him moving on from the third Nolan movie.
Only Batman with morals that believed in people was Adam West. Rest was always meant to be a flawed character, an anti hero, with no fricking morals, but the only one that could save the day, that is, until Batgays comvinced themselves otherwise. And no i'm not calling you a batgay, i just think you are a zoomer cuck that hates Tim for being popular.
Cry me a fricking river.
Hi Timm, you ship fricking sucks.
is not healthy to self insert on Robin anon.
And the daughter of his best friend
DAMMIT BATMAN, YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO RAPE THE JOKER
who?
Harvey Dent? Robin? Superman?
The only one you didnt mention that has a daughter. And so help me if you say Ace the Bathound I will scream
i was just messing around, there is no single version of the characters and i'm tired of people pretending there is one. Like Barbara was an Alfred's relative once.
Joker had a sidekick before Harley moron, Gaggy.
Joker's bi, it checks out. Guess why he's called Gaggy.
JOKER NO DONT PULL OUT THE CREAM PIES!
Because Gaggy wasn't a smoking hot babe? Now imagine Gaggy as a shortstack GF and the midget would have stuck around for decades. Also being fair Gaggy did have some staying power dude was just too wacky for dark age comic stuff so writers dropped him like a lot of the sillier characters in batman's rouges gallery. Like how Alfred hasnt been the Outsider in years.
Dude, there is no way a woman in a modern comic or cartoon will be called gaggy
Could just as well call her wiener Inhaler
>CONFOUND IT, THAT INFERNAL BATMAN HAS FOUND OUR LAIR ALREADY. wienerY, KEEP HIM COMPANY WHILE I FINISH THE PLAN.
>Alright Bats, you're facing the wiener Inhaler now, so get ready for things to SUCK.
wiener-based supervillain in the silver age whose death trap involves a giant makeshift wiener ejaculating hot glue on Batman and Robin.
I could imagine a rooster-themed super villainess in a Batman book from the 50s that in retrospect comes across...differently than intended, like the "Joker's Boners" issue.
>the "Joker's Boners" issue
Man that was a riot
>Johns does bring him back in Three Jokers
>fricking kills him off
Good thing no one cares about or references Three Jokers.
She has the psychic ability to make any man she looks at within a 20 foot radius cum like they just had the best blowjob of the century.
Man, wonder why that didn't stick?
He makes a reappearance in Dini's Gotham City Sirens. He tries to kill Harley for taking his place. And since he can't do it funny he fails. Or does he?
Wonder Woman often has a shitty annoying accent now
Groot being a one line spouting moron in 616 fir the last decade.
>fir the last decade
>fir
>FIR
Accidental tree puns are great
That came from the comics in the late 2000s, years before the first GoTG movie.
>Are there any examples of a comic adaptation causing a permanent change in the source material for the worst? i.e. characterization, tone, movie synergy, etc.
Netflix Luke Cage
The GotG got fricked over royally. Rocket Raccoon in particular.
I'm guessing it happened to Black Panther's cast too, but I sorta gave up on the comics at that point.
kind of similar but The 89 Batman comic was influenced by BLM. They basically turn Tim black and because Billy Dee was black Harvey Dent they focus on that
cartoon Martian Manhunter effectively killed the comics Manhunter.
No one wants to care about a superman rip off who's weakness is fire and can't read minds without going
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGHHHHHHHH
The "Holy x, Batman" was only said in the Batman 66 show but nightwing says it sometimes in the comics
That's a good one
Joker in the Dark Knight. Now he's an "embodiment of chaos".
All capeshit
>Are there any examples of a comic adaptation causing a permanent change in the source material for the worst?
Many
Reeves and Donner's Superman turned Superman from the Superhero to just another superhero. Especially after Marvel guys, whose only exposure to Superman was the movie and TV show, came in. They pretty much turned the comics into Donnerverse.
Constantine.
Fricking how?
He became le badass wizard with flashy magic in the comics too after that.
Pretty much everything, because it's ALWAYS pointless. Comic book sales keep falling, nobody is gonna buy them because "dur hur, Starlord now quips like in the movies! And listens to 80s music!". It never worked, it will never work... And yet those morons keep doing it. Did Captain America comics started selling more issues, when they brought Peggy back? No, because most people watching those movies never gave a shit about comics in the first place. So why would anyone think, that something like that will suddenly change their mind?
Agree brother.