I mean the reality is that the majority of pre-roman/pre-christian history of europa has been lost to the ages. There's a handful of greek and roman sources detailing the cultures and customs, but they're all speculative and they often contradict each other. The history that happened to be preserved, the stuff that wasn't erased from the sands of time by the romans and the christians, is all up to interpretation. We've lost more knowledge than we could ever possibly hope to gain.
And this is all ignoring the fact that it is very taboo to show a mostly white europe, generally free from israelitery and shitskin invaders. That is simply not allowed in current year.
Most Viking, ancient Rome and Greece films fit that. But anything set before Roman or Greek times in Europe would be rare. Maybe 10.000 BC, but Idk where that is really set.
Gladiator is not Rome. It does not even try and be historically accurate. I don't think Ridley Scott even so much as read a first person account from Rome let alone understood their mindset
They even developed a proto-Latin script for the film. If you are serious OP, you will enjoy this. If you are a LARPer with no real historical interest, this film will not be for you
You wouldn't even recognize pagan storyforms if you saw them. They follow incredibly different rules to modern western storytelling.
There were a few attempts to go deep with this stuff in novels and TV back in the 60s in the UK.
One of the biggest ones was Alan Garner's "The Owl Service". It's absolutely fricking bizarre. Intriguing, but bizarre. Stars one of the girls Alex fricks in his room in Clockwork Orange.
Basic gestalt is when a gel goes to live with a relative in the country, her and two lads (one a rural welsh kid and one a toffy english dude) start unknowingly acting out an old folk myth.
The Owl Service is a reference to an unusual tea set (china cups etc), and apparently it really caught the public's imagination because a few people still had a few of these things.
Whole thing is on YT. See if you can get through the first episode.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwu7KkhfqqkB5nxo124LX1PDHk0dHSR6q
If you mean "Hollywoodized" pagan stuff, just go watch Outlander (movie). It has vikings and is a fun stupid space monster movie starring Jesusman. Or Excalibur or Dragonslayer. They have aspects of the turn to monotheism, but outside the spectacle they're treated pretty thoughtfully.
If you like all that old Brit TV stuff, start looking up the MR James stories that got adapted back then too. "Whistle and I'll come to you" is one of the better known ones. This story was written right as the public was getting interested in the sorts of strange artifacts that were getting pulled out of old barrow graves, and the idea of people being haunted by spirits of the past really started taking root.
That's the fricked up thing, outside of Shakespeare, most modern storytelling relating to the past (modern people interacting with it for good or ill - mostly ill) is really only 100 - 150 years old or so.
Its hard to find realistic stories that are not geared towards the dichotomy of good vs evil, rather than the more realistic enemy vs friend. Everything in hollywood follows this moronic formula and let me not even mention the usual love story trope. Its almost like normies can't enjoy anything that doesn't include those two tropes. If you want something different you have to read a book or find some arthouse cinema.
If Disney's The Black Cauldron hadn't eaten shit so hard, there may have been a bit more interest in paganism as a "historical"/aesthetic dressing to more mainstream fantasy.
As it stands, it took forever for even Vikings to get popular again in only very recent years. The 13th Warrior was a complete stand-alone in it's day.
The main take-away from pagan storytelling is that it's incredibly "cyclical", because it refers to the seasons of the year etc. Things are always dying and being reborn.
Christian and Esoteric storytelling tend to move towards a form of ascendancy/apotheosis where the MC kind of "bonds" with the godhead and comes into a higher state of being (usually by facing and defeating/resolving issues with his "shadow").
So you can see that one is about "living within the cycle of life" while the other is more about "breaking the cycle". Extremely interesting stuff. The end of Dragonslayer kinda touches on this stuff.
Just found another Alan Garner kid's book on YT (audiobook).
Narrated by Robert Powell (another great Jesus actor btw, done a few strange supernatural movies worth checking out too like The Survivor and Harlequin)
disney hercules
Vikangs(inb4 it's not a movie)
Quest for Fire(technically)
Norfman
I'm sure there's more but I've been drinking
>I'm sure there's more but I've been drinking
Skål! Hail Óðinn!
My coons, my criminals, my kangs
>have a gansett
what?
Narragansett.
Northman was based and so are you, happy 4th druk friend
the Raven trilogy, esp. When The Raven Flies (1984)
Pathfinder (1987)
The 13th Warrior (1999)
yeah I saw a homeless dude next to a mudhut pissing himself in Detroit.
reminded me of pre-european pagans.
>pre-european pagans
You mean pre-Christian pagans? Because I don't know wtf "pre-european pagans" is supposed to be.
remaster when?
there is a fedora ending, it was 2009
Cave of Forgotten Dreams
I mean the reality is that the majority of pre-roman/pre-christian history of europa has been lost to the ages. There's a handful of greek and roman sources detailing the cultures and customs, but they're all speculative and they often contradict each other. The history that happened to be preserved, the stuff that wasn't erased from the sands of time by the romans and the christians, is all up to interpretation. We've lost more knowledge than we could ever possibly hope to gain.
And this is all ignoring the fact that it is very taboo to show a mostly white europe, generally free from israelitery and shitskin invaders. That is simply not allowed in current year.
Most Viking, ancient Rome and Greece films fit that. But anything set before Roman or Greek times in Europe would be rare. Maybe 10.000 BC, but Idk where that is really set.
None yet
Wait until the israelites stop ruling the West and the film industry is revitalized
There are no good films set in ancient Greece or Rome? Are you moronic?
Correct, there are none.
The Eagle was pretty good, it spends a lot of time on pagan tribes too
Please immediately commit suicide.
There has not been a good film about Rome in decades. Stop treating slop like it's somehow a good thing
Julius Caesar from 1953 is great
Gladiator is good
Gladiator is not Rome. It does not even try and be historically accurate. I don't think Ridley Scott even so much as read a first person account from Rome let alone understood their mindset
Being historically inaccurate doesn't mean it doesn't take place in the Roman Empire and is about Roman people
At best I would call it fanfiction. It's "I can't Believe It's Not Rome"
1. you have to go back
2. that's not pre-Christian
They even developed a proto-Latin script for the film. If you are serious OP, you will enjoy this. If you are a LARPer with no real historical interest, this film will not be for you
Clan of the cave bear
You wouldn't even recognize pagan storyforms if you saw them. They follow incredibly different rules to modern western storytelling.
There were a few attempts to go deep with this stuff in novels and TV back in the 60s in the UK.
One of the biggest ones was Alan Garner's "The Owl Service". It's absolutely fricking bizarre. Intriguing, but bizarre. Stars one of the girls Alex fricks in his room in Clockwork Orange.
Basic gestalt is when a gel goes to live with a relative in the country, her and two lads (one a rural welsh kid and one a toffy english dude) start unknowingly acting out an old folk myth.
The Owl Service is a reference to an unusual tea set (china cups etc), and apparently it really caught the public's imagination because a few people still had a few of these things.
Whole thing is on YT. See if you can get through the first episode.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwu7KkhfqqkB5nxo124LX1PDHk0dHSR6q
If you mean "Hollywoodized" pagan stuff, just go watch Outlander (movie). It has vikings and is a fun stupid space monster movie starring Jesusman. Or Excalibur or Dragonslayer. They have aspects of the turn to monotheism, but outside the spectacle they're treated pretty thoughtfully.
If you like all that old Brit TV stuff, start looking up the MR James stories that got adapted back then too. "Whistle and I'll come to you" is one of the better known ones. This story was written right as the public was getting interested in the sorts of strange artifacts that were getting pulled out of old barrow graves, and the idea of people being haunted by spirits of the past really started taking root.
That's the fricked up thing, outside of Shakespeare, most modern storytelling relating to the past (modern people interacting with it for good or ill - mostly ill) is really only 100 - 150 years old or so.
Modernism breeds retrospection.
Here's a less fragmented YT source:
https://www.youtube.com/@fraancetate8759/videos
Just search "Owl Service".
Its hard to find realistic stories that are not geared towards the dichotomy of good vs evil, rather than the more realistic enemy vs friend. Everything in hollywood follows this moronic formula and let me not even mention the usual love story trope. Its almost like normies can't enjoy anything that doesn't include those two tropes. If you want something different you have to read a book or find some arthouse cinema.
If Disney's The Black Cauldron hadn't eaten shit so hard, there may have been a bit more interest in paganism as a "historical"/aesthetic dressing to more mainstream fantasy.
As it stands, it took forever for even Vikings to get popular again in only very recent years. The 13th Warrior was a complete stand-alone in it's day.
The main take-away from pagan storytelling is that it's incredibly "cyclical", because it refers to the seasons of the year etc. Things are always dying and being reborn.
Christian and Esoteric storytelling tend to move towards a form of ascendancy/apotheosis where the MC kind of "bonds" with the godhead and comes into a higher state of being (usually by facing and defeating/resolving issues with his "shadow").
So you can see that one is about "living within the cycle of life" while the other is more about "breaking the cycle". Extremely interesting stuff. The end of Dragonslayer kinda touches on this stuff.
Just found another Alan Garner kid's book on YT (audiobook).
Narrated by Robert Powell (another great Jesus actor btw, done a few strange supernatural movies worth checking out too like The Survivor and Harlequin)
Valhalla Rising (2009)