>Are they still going forward with the Filoni movie?
These are pretty low numbers. I haven't seen any info on season 2, which would obviously have been ordered if this did better
Which is probably all they counted for considering it's a sequel to CW and Rebels
Filoni will just tell Cathlyn he will do a movie or the other series for free, while Rosario's agent will weight in to keep her employed
>solo and the ST were so unpopular/bad it killed star wars movies
And kenobi/book of boba and this have killed most fans interest in streaming star wars shlop
Oh there will be. But it will be us adapting the Heir to the Empire, Jedi Academy and New Jedi Order series dropping their PDFs into the AI tools and receiving full length shows or movies with full voice acting and perfect photorealistic copies of these homosexual actors during their prime. Hollywood and world israeliteery are finished. The time of the white incel has come.
No idea, but every cover from the New Jedi Order books are similar in quality to this. Even Jaina and Jacen have great artwork. Modern day Hollywood couldn’t even find actors this aesthetic. We need AI tools. I know it’s a meme at this point, but one of my old childhood friends works at Adobe in the Bay Area and said the video AI tools they’re working on that haven’t been released publicly yet will give us the ability to make entire shows and movies similar in quality already to the still images we have free access to now. It’s coming. They’re going to have to figure out a way to pass laws to prevent us from making Hollywood completely obsolete.
Who cares? Star Wars has always made money from merch. There are still many fans who are willing to buy Ashoka toys. She is the most popular female character.
First was decent enough to do well, this last one was not received well. Even in the first, the repulsive bug eyed negress saves the protagonist repeatedly and takes over during the climax against Vader. No one wants to see this thing, not even blacks. >search bug eyed black woman >pic related first result
Man, remember when Star Wars was a gold mine of awesome video games? Even the stinkers at least had soul.
What kind of brand-blind psychopath does it take to say "Let's buy Lucasfilm for 4 billion dollars, but shutter Lucasarts completely."
Many people my age (~23) are metaphorically roping themselves with gay left politics and imagined mental illnesses (that turn into real mental illnesses)
I can still enjoy kino trike the original trilogy to pass the time while my generations kills its mind with bullshit
I have been wondering this for years WHY THE FRICK DID THEY SHUT DOWN LUCAS ARTS.
the main thing that got millennials into star wars in the late 90s and early 2000s was the near endless spam of great movie tie in games. I cant even think of one game in the last decade that's tied directly into the sequel trilogy when the prequels had 100s.
how the frick did Disney frick this up so badly all they had to do was make a sequel trilogy that made sense. they should of sat around for 3 years setting up 5-10 different plots they could go with. pay 1000 nerds to look at them all make them sign an NDA then go with the one people liked best. but what they did was just rip off the OT and expected people to love what ever the frick they threw on the screen.
>I cant even think of one game in the last decade that's tied directly into the sequel trilogy
There are 2 lego star wars game, one just for force awakens and one that does the disney trilogy (+prequels and OT)
Lucasarts was on its last leg before the Disney buyout. They had two rounds of layoffs in 2010 and a bunch of talent left. But you're right we haven't gotten shit for games since then
>bring on EA executive >suddenly cancel half your games in progress, the entire development cycle becomes fricked up >how could this have happened?
but 2010 was a dead time for the entire brand they should of kept luaus arts running if they knew they were going to make new films in only a few years.
so let me get this straight they hired an EA executive to run Lucasarts for a time then they shut it down. WTF there had to be some shady shit going down with EA and Disney for that to happen.
so let me get this straight they hired an EA executive to run Lucasarts for a time then they shut it down. WTF there had to be some shady shit going down with EA and Disney for that to happen.
It was before that where the decline started. Jim Ward gutted the company and they became reliant on external devs. He wanted to move LA to publishing fewer, but bigger games
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>He wanted to move LA to publishing fewer, but bigger games
Dumbass AAA gays.
>Which is why it's a miracle Disney didn't outrght shut Lucasfilm down after Indy V bombed even worse than Solo.
They have only losses going forward, it's not going to last forever like this. Ahsoka cost $120?Million, and for what?
Finale has 800K(!!) people watching it?
Ordinary dipshit shows like The Amazing Race routinely get 3-4 million people on a regular episode. And don't cost $15M for a single ep
>Ordinary dipshit shows like The Amazing Race routinely get 3-4 million people on a regular episode. And don't cost $15M for a single ep
This is what I don't understand about this era of flop wars, they just keep making these dumbshit streaming shows about side characters to what? Sell toys? Nobody is watching this stuff and it makes 0 impact on popular culture
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Disney has pissed away 11 billion on Disney+ and streaming to the point they are talking about selling ESPN and ABC to keep the cash flow going because they only have a couple hundred million in liquid cash rn.
Basically Igor bet the house and he better pull it off or people are getting fired by the share holders. That’s what is happening at Disney.
Hopefully not. And I say this as someone who actually likes Ahsoka character a lot. But between this and Rebels, he has done enough damage. Not surprising, considering he used to have George, a team of experienced screenwriters hired by George, a team of talented animators and excellent actors to carry his ass. And he had NO WRITING CREDIT on the original run of the show that made him famous! But the fans just gave him all the credit because he had the most publicity, when he was more of a middle-manager guy.
Hopefully not. And I say this as someone who actually likes Ahsoka character a lot. But between this and Rebels, he has done enough damage. Not surprising, considering he used to have George, a team of experienced screenwriters hired by George, a team of talented animators and excellent actors to carry his ass. And he had NO WRITING CREDIT on the original run of the show that made him famous! But the fans just gave him all the credit because he had the most publicity, when he was more of a middle-manager guy.
No George, no Star Wars.
>>No George, no Star Wars.
Movieonlylets are so funny
Surely this is an indictment of Disney+ weekly release model? The whole appeal of streaming was that it got rid of the two frustrating aspects of TV, ads and weekly installments.
The funny part is a children cartoon being better written, better directed, better shot, better acted and looking visually more pleasing than a multi-million "prestige" live-action series. Who the frick wants to watch a bunch of shitty hags that can't act their way out of a paper bag, wearing cheap ass, ugly makeup and prosthetics that look worse than the ones from the original Star Wars films? Imagine taking cute characters that showed emotions and acted like living people and turning them into ugly planks of wood that are played by *actually* living people, though they seem more dead than actual computer generated models. Yikes.
The funny part is a children cartoon being better written, better directed, better shot, better acted and looking visually more pleasing than a multi-million "prestige" live-action series. Who the frick wants to watch a bunch of shitty hags that can't act their way out of a paper bag, wearing cheap ass, ugly makeup and prosthetics that look worse than the ones from the original Star Wars films? Imagine taking cute characters that showed emotions and acted like living people and turning them into ugly planks of wood that are played by *actually* living people, though they seem more dead than actual computer generated models. Yikes.
in your picture she's ugly as frick, no different than in the show
Holy shit make content for zoomers. Its not that hard. I am a millennial but even I understand this house of cards of making shit for the 28-41 audience can't last forever
The demographic isn't even the problem necessarily, it's just that the house of cards is built on the unstable platform of streaming. If it were the days of broadcast television, this shit would have gotten stamped out the first time an advertiser stopped sponsoring reboots with bad ratings.
>I understand this house of cards of making shit for the 28-41 audience can't last forever
This premise for an idea is shit. Clone Wars wasn't that heavily watched, ended years ago, and Ahsoka was a supporting character.
They keep throwing shit against the wall that's a mix of nostalgia and shit ideas. Same thing Paramount is doing with Star Trek.
It's all shit and it's killing these franchises. And that's a good thing
I don’t know what would be funnier; them trying to double down on making him a b***h or the sheer seething behind the scenes at being forced to make him an actual hero again.
They couldn't even make a boba fett show about a ruthless bounty hunter a show about a ruthless bounty hunter. They are beyond redemption. These fricking idiots will forever refuse to make something people will like. It's on purpose. They subvert and shit on things, because that's all they want to do. They don't want to make good and enjoyable entertainment, they're not even trying and failing to do that. They are intending and succeeding at creating the opposite. Bland, boring, subversive shite is the name of the game.
>They've already made a show about Obi-Wan and it also failed. Who else can they milk now? Luke?
That's all done. Nostalgia is over nobody cares any more.
All new ideas, new concepts, totally new everything.
>They've already made a show about Obi-Wan and it also failed. Who else can they milk now? Luke?
That's all done. Nostalgia is over nobody cares any more.
All new ideas, new concepts, totally new everything.
If they made a nostalgiabait show centred around telling the ST to frick off it would easily be their best rated show of the lot.
It just won’t happen for a variety of obvious reasons.
>because it distanced itself from sequel trilogy as much as possible
They HAVE to do this going forward. People are not caring about some 2nd rate dipshit character in the original movies, it's over.
We don't want a Jabba the Hutt series or some shit explaining how R2-D2 is delivering food in a sushi restaurant. Nobody will watch that because nobody cares. The original movies were a nice hero's journey, milking it lowers the stakes way too low.
It totally hems in any story line, and we already know what's going to happen.
It's also why prequels very rarely work.
Total hard reboot
>They've already made a show about Obi-Wan and it also failed. Who else can they milk now? Luke?
That's all done. Nostalgia is over nobody cares any more.
All new ideas, new concepts, totally new everything.
They keep injecting these dogshit shows with some present-day woke shit; little 10yr old princess leia is running around with obi wan and she's so smart and inspirational holy FRICK who are they making this for? Even the most wide-eyed grinning neckbearded soi bois who sperg out in excitement over anything branded with star wars didn't like that shit. Good god I want to see into the exec meetings where they're like >people need to see a 10yr old princess leia whose good with droids and tech stuff and says inspirational things cause she's a leader its so important!!
The demographic isn't even the problem necessarily, it's just that the house of cards is built on the unstable platform of streaming. If it were the days of broadcast television, this shit would have gotten stamped out the first time an advertiser stopped sponsoring reboots with bad ratings.
They are not making content for boomers either.
>make content for millennials >the poorest generation currently alive >the most moronic childish generation on the planet >they eat your shit up but don’t have any money to buy your shit >lose money >push away everyone else that used to be a fan >lose more money
Maybe they should have focused more on the generations that have room for collectibles in their home and don’t spend 85% of their wages on a broom closet because they took a phd in gender studies
>even IGN hates it when thinking about it, 2 weeks after they gave ahsoka a 9/10
https://twitter.com/IGN/status/1713057292612985242
>In the end, Ahsoka Season 1 it didn’t end up being a season of television at all. Instead, it was individual nostalgia plays sprinkled through long patches of nothing. >Here’s why the show reminds us what’s wrong with Star Wars:
>samba tv
that's the equivalent of someone making a poll for 50 people and then saying that the results apply to 50 million people. basic clickbait fuel shit
They've already made a show about Obi-Wan and it also failed. Who else can they milk now? Luke?
Samba.tv is owned by Disney. The same company whose CEO just beat the writers strike into submission. Remember a month ago when they were calling him Satan for saying that shot about driving them into homelessness? Yeah, neither do they apparently.
Sure, and rian Johnson is still getting his own Star Wars trilogy lmao
Ahsoka is dead, Star Wars is dead. Disney fricked themselves over hard, literally their only hope is to do a hard reboot and start from scratch with nothing but the OT, PT, and CW as canon.
Absolutely not. The Filoniverse movie was announced prematurely and that's a recurring problem at Lucasfilm. The only reason Ahsoka was hyped up as the show that would save Star Wars is because it was basically the last thing Disney hadn't tried short of giving the fans what they actually want and doing a continuity reset. The only card they had left in their deck was to bring the cartoons into live action and they completely botched that, so now what? They have nothing.
The people who actually still like the D+ shows go absolutely bananas when Glub Shitto type characters show up, but the problem is there simply are not very many of those types of people. Disney was under the impression that there ware tens of millions of Star Wars fans who wait around with their mouths open wide for Disney to shit in like they're getting a gourmet dinner, but that is simply not the case. To have any kind of real success they have to actually make good shows and movies, and 6 filler episodes per season and 2 that are actually interesting and engaging is not good television.
Characters walking down long hallways and staring at each other awkwardly is filler to pad out a show's runtime. Don't let anyone gaslight you into thinking otherwise.
If Disney did a Luke Skywalker show the whole thing would be a long drawn out foreshadowing of where he ends up in The Last Jedi, and that would be an instant kiss of death for the show. A Luke Skywalker show is the one thing fans would go crazy for if it was done right, but Lucasfilm as it currently exists is incapable of making it without the fans hating it, and they know this. Look at how Obi-Wan ended up. I'm sure there were people at Lucasfilm who insisted that the show needed to be good and fought for it, but it was company policy that the show had to make Obi-Wan look bad and that it had to be a backdoor pilot for female characters, and that the reverse-bechdel test be enforced.
The reverse Bechdel test basically says that two male characters can't have a conversation without a female chaperone. It's why in the Han Solo movie, Han and Lando never actually get a moment alone to have fraternal bonding without L-Phoebe-7 interrupting them, and it's why Obi-Wan had to go on a quest with Leia instead of Luke even though Obi-Wan bonding with a young Luke is the show that was originally pitched. Company policy is that men are not allowed to be alone with each other because there are no male-only spaces anymore, because when men are left alone without the den mother watching they can potentially plot their escape from the longhouse. That is the mindset that exists at Lucasfilm and that's why a Luke Skywalker show is a non-starter, even if they wanted to make it.
they are either people who watched the show as an adult because they're a manchild, or those who watched the show growing up (who are now adults) and got attached to it
coincidentally, both like TCW because its also a cartoon, and filoni worked on it
rebels, as a show, is not very good
but those people have nostalgia goggles for it, along with TCW
however, they believe the false notion that Filoni is this amazing writer because "he made TCW" (he didnt, and he only co-wrote one episode before S7)
Filoni panders to this fanbase with his characters, the ghost crew, rex, ahsoka, maul, his version of thrawn etc, but no one else gives a shit about those characters, or thinks they're too overused
It’s fascinating that after being mocked for half a fricking decade over their refusal to admit the Rian trilogy is not happening, they STILL announce pathetically transparent confidence ploys early and end up looking like idiots when it never happens
>Disney was under the impression that there ware tens of millions of Star Wars fans who wait around with their mouths open wide for Disney to shit in like they're getting a gourmet dinner, but that is simply not the case.
Yeah exactly. You might have had tons of people on here or reddit or x talking endlessly about these shows, but it appeals to a very small % of the population and will always lose $ given the massive cost of these.
Very few people care about minor characters, people want to watch entertaining stuff. Simple concept, difficult to execute
HOW do they make money on this?? It must cost a fortune to make these episodes/ series. >YouTube video essays about the series get more views than the series itself and have absolutely no existent budgets to produce
>HOW do they make money on this?? It must cost a fortune to make these episodes/ series.
They don't that's why no season 2 has been announced. They will see what else they have in the hopper but why would they want to lose MORE money on a 2nd season.
>Older Millennials tuned in at the highest rate to watch whether #Thrawn made it off Peridea
I knew Millenniods were the ones who slurped up all this nu-wars shit the most. Why am I not surprised?
Andor stands alone if you're already into slowboiling spy thriller/high tech prison escape with serious characters. It's delivered through the Star Wars aesthetics. I think they were probably heavily inspired by a little 80's scifi gem called Fortress starring Christopher Lambert and many others. On program
Huge fan of season 1, but I dread for season 2. The strikes are a big part of why, but also there's always the dread of them trying to shove in some rebels cameos or something, and more pertinently the relatively tight plotting of season 1 will be harder to pull off if its supposed to cover all 4/5 years until Andor's death.
Andor was the only thing that critics actually liked out of all nu-wars shit no way KK and feloni wont try to actully get involved in its production for season 2 and cluster frick it with baby yoda and ashoka tie ins
I'd have expected more than a 30% drop off.
That said these figures only tell you many many people fired up the episode, not how many watched the entire thing. For all we know half of them may not have lasted a minute. Not to mention people having the show on auto-play while they do something else.
Those numbers are embarrassing. Now imagine how many of those are actual SW fans instead of normies who watch Disneyslop regularly. I almost feel bad for Filoni but he's too far up his ass to admit his garbage isn't good.
>slightly lower than Mandalorian
I thought Mandalorian was the biggest thing on Disney+? If it's only slightly higher than Andor and Ahsoka, does that mean Disney+ is basically dead?
>Thrawn returns
So can we retire these literally who characters like Ahsoka and Sabine and Hera and bring Luke, Leia, Han, Ben Iblis, Mara Jade back to deal with this threat? Or will Filoni's cartoon characters continue to parasitize on Legacy stories?
What is actually interesting about Star Wars anymore?
They've milked A and B level stories for all they are worth
Everything else is just so niche that it wouldn't make sense as a high dollar show or movie.
The worst thing about Ahsoka, like all Disney Wars, is that a competent team could have easily taken the concept and basically all of its wider plot beats (though would need to shorten or remove the MacGuffin hunt), and it would have been a slam dunk. The problem is Disney wants to do EVERYTHING in-house, and has no idea how to make good TV. They refuse to outsource to an experienced production company, so even when they have decent episode directors on, the show still ends up looking cheap. When they have not-so-experienced directors it looks like putrid fricking ass. Filoni also can't write (this was obvious the second his final-season TCW episodes dropped) or direct and he needs to be kicked out pretty much completely. He sucks.
Are you serious? The second he got control over the writing of TCW it became utter shit. I don't know where you gays got it in your heads that this guy is owed credit for making TCW, but he's not, and he's a dumbass.
>spinsabers are actually the most OP lightsaber type of all by far and if they were used right it'd be fricking impossible to ever defend against them >every Inquisitor just goes full SPIN2WIN BAYBEEEEEE and gets killed in two seconds
It's frankly infuriating.
A motorized lightsaber is actually a terrible design because it would frick up your wrist, and it would be easy to deflect blows from because it would be limited by how strong your wrist is. It's a simple matter of physics.
No, it's an amazing design because it's like having an extra wrist, two actually since the circular joint can swivel on the hilt as well as move the emitter along its circumference. The blade can strike or block from essentially any angle. Here's an obvious example, say you lock a strike - Well the second blade can just swivel up from the direction of the enemy's pommel and cut them down, with no real defense but to retreat.
It also has all the advantages of Dooku's curved saber (or Ahsoka's in reverse), but even better because the angle can be adjusted at any time on the fly. It also fixes the core issue of saberstaffs because the two blades don't only need to be in alignment, meaning the element of predictability or restricting your own motions is removed.
Are you serious? The second he got control over the writing of TCW it became utter shit. I don't know where you gays got it in your heads that this guy is owed credit for making TCW, but he's not, and he's a dumbass.
The last season was good, and the siege of mandalore was the only good thing released under Disney. Though that probably shouldn't count, because it was largely developed pre-sale. The Bad Batch arc was written and animated way before when George was still around and it is 95% unchanged, and the other two arcs were also conceptualized with George and the scripts were written. Even though the middle arc was changed from an Asian guy to two Hispanic sisters, otherwise they are pretty much the same. It can't be called Filoni's solo work, because he was still relying on the scripts and notes that were developed with Lucas.
I watched Ahsoka only to see more Shin, I wouldn't have known about it if I had not browsed Cinemaphile. I saw the asses too, combined with Shin I made the effort to watch it and honestly it was fine. I don't get it why people thought it was bad, it's a star wars show. They are all stupid to a point. Star wars is not for the thinking White man, because once you start going over with it with a fine comb you unravel problems with the premise and plot immediately. That girl who Shin wounded in the beginning has a nice little ass. Syndulla has a nice ass. That's all that mattered.
How do they define "household"? Sounds like they're just saying that to make it sound like more people watched it than in reality. How do they know it's a "household" instead of one guy living alone.
Because there are census statistics on the average number of people in American households, anon. Don't be dense. This is how ratings have always worked.
If your show is on TV I can buy that many families just have 1 and if it's on, that's what everyone is watching IF they're watching at all.
But if your shit is on streaming and watchable from anyone's personal phone, saying every "watched" instance counts as an entire household starts to sound disingenuous.
I hate you moronic coomers that think shoving hot women in every scene will just simply fix Disney making the entire OT pointless.
Go back to OFwhere you can pay to simp all you want.
All women in this wear pants and have stone face 24/7. Nobody would fricking care either way. It's pathetic lazy sterile badly written corporate product. Morons only gave it a chance because muh Thrawn and then they managed to frick up even that.
And they should have cast someone NOT BLACK, because Ahsoka was voiced by a WHITE girl. Dawson's voice is so fricking rude and black, it's unbearable. She sounds nothing like Ahsoka and has no fricking range whatsoever. She can't emote neither with her face, nor with her voice. How can one frick up so badly, the biggest miscast in the entire show.
I think Lucasfilm will enter a semi-permanent hiatus (until they're bought out by another company) after the first entry of Rey's trilogy releases. That is, assuming disney doesn't shut them down after the troonylite bombs in the next couple of months
I don't think the Rey movie is ever going to come out. Disney is tightening the purse strings trying to fend off a hostile takeover, and the last thing they need is a Star Wars movie that does Dial of Destiny numbers, or worse.
I don't know.
Don't underestimate Kathy's moronation. They've clearly shown that she cannot and will not be fired. And her biggest desire is this Rey film so unless disney are selling soon, then it's happening
>They've clearly shown that she cannot and will not be fired.
this
If you can't get fired by making an Indiana Jones movie historically flop, you will never get fired.
From what I've heard, Lucasfilm has basically had the money pipe shut off except for the projects that are already filmed so it doesn't matter if Kennedy is still in charge or not. She has a list of all the men in hollywood who have touched her ass and so it's unlikely that there will ever be a grand public shaming of her. The closest we'll ever get is Steven Spielberg's snub of her at the Dial of Destiny premier when he honored John Williams instead of her. Disney should have fired her after The Last Jedi but they decided to take the slow painful approach of giving her every chance imaginable to redeem herself, and now they have to wait for her to retire before they can do anything to fix Star Wars.
>They've clearly shown that she cannot and will not be fired.
this
If you can't get fired by making an Indiana Jones movie historically flop, you will never get fired.
>They've clearly shown that she cannot and will not be fired >If you can't get fired by making an Indiana Jones movie historically flop, you will never get fired.
What's up with that? It can't be mere failing upwards since she's at the top, no one benefits from her being shit. How did she get such immunity?
Obviously no one knows "officially" (not anyone who can tell us at least).
Theories and rumours revolve around the following >no one else wants the job >the brand is too fricked to be worth trying to salvage >disney is stacked enough with moronic people who Kathy is friends with and who won't remove her >disney is focused on other issues >there are some very smart people who can manipulate numbers well and convince execs that Kathy isn't actually the problem
>no one else wants the job
not even improbable, just plain impossible >the brand is too fricked to be worth trying to salvage
We're talking about star wars, if it was put up for sale it would get immediate and gigantic offers from the biggest media conglomerates >disney is stacked enough with moronic people who Kathy is friends with and who won't remove her
I'll take this one for now because it makes sense. But I'm still convinced she's part of the child sacrificing circles.
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>not even improbable, just plain impossible
I mean taking the job would arguably be career suicide. They won't consider just anyone. They'd need someone with "clout" that people would trust. And considering the entire franchise is a joke to most people, who would want that?
Remember, Gunn only got the dcu after several other people turned it down before him. Star Wars is in a much worse state than DC. >We're talking about star wars, if it was put up for sale it would get immediate and gigantic offers from the biggest media conglomerates
Sure. But that's a different company. Disney can't salvage it, arguably, without retconning a shitton which would create a lot of controversy and look like they were backtracking
Look I don't know. But it makes sense, theoretically
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>Disney can't salvage it, arguably, without retconning a shitton which would create a lot of controversy and look like they were backtracking
Wasn't it at disney that it was recently said that they'd tone down with the wokeshit? (I hope no one forgives them)
>no one else wants the job
not even improbable, just plain impossible >the brand is too fricked to be worth trying to salvage
We're talking about star wars, if it was put up for sale it would get immediate and gigantic offers from the biggest media conglomerates >disney is stacked enough with moronic people who Kathy is friends with and who won't remove her
I'll take this one for now because it makes sense. But I'm still convinced she's part of the child sacrificing circles.
You know, I'm really getting Elon Musk Twitter takeover vibes in regards to the Nelson Peltz saga. Disney is clearly deathly afraid of outsiders getting onto the board of directors, especially if they replace Bob Iger with an outside hire. We're never going to get a Disney equivalent of the Twitter files but something tells me that a host of high level executives are going to lose their jobs if Peltz is successful.
There's really only two ways I could see Kennedy being fired rather than just riding out another 5 years at Lucasfilm until she retires. Either an outsider takes the position of power needed to fire her, or Disney sells Star Wars to a company that is willing to fire her. Bob Iger is rumored to have been doing passive aggressive shit to try and get her to retire sooner but obviously he is an inept midwit, and it's his fault that Disney is stocked to the gills with insane ideologues, because he hired them.
And there’s also a Spielberg quote from somewhere that “Kathy knows where all the bodies are buried” from her previous career as Speilberg’s assistant, and while it’s a stock phrase, you have to wonder what it refers to exactly considering Steven Spielberg his friends have literally gang-raped white toddlers to death.
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Anonymous
>Steven Spielberg his friends have literally gang-raped white toddlers to death
always see this thrown around with no source. i'd love to be an antisemite but i need a good reason
7 months ago
Anonymous
look up Heather O’Rourke
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There's nothing on the net about anything involving something Spielberg did to her. Spoonfeed me.
Rumor has it they’re about to put star wars on ice, meaning after mando S4 there will be a 2-3 year gap with no new live action Star Wars content releasing whatsoever
I don't even know why they are bothering with Mando Season 4. Season 3 was a flop and people and baby yoda isn't selling shit anymore. I don't even think Disney understands the concept of brand damage.
I tried watching an episode but the visuals just look so much worse. I don't know what it is exactly, the makeup looks weird and everyone looks fake like the entire thing is cg. Past shows and movies all looked fine so I don't know what they did here. I wish I wasn't too stupid to put it to words.
It's just bad designs, for example everything looks WAY too clean, the people, ships, equipment. Which might have worked in animation but here it just makes it look like a fan project.
It's because everything is shot on The Volume. If you need something to look dirtier on a real movie set you just need some charcoal and hairspray and it'll be done in a few hours. If a digital movie set doesn't look grimy enough there's a huge cumbersome technical process to change it, and in the end it's still CG.
It's over for disney+ as a whole, they said game of thrones was dead but even that looks pretty alive next to marvel and star wars to me. It's time to pull the plug
I wonder which is going to be the first to fall, Disney+ or Paramount+? They are both notoriously bad streaming services held up entirely by back catalog content that can't get a hit. Disney got lucky with the first two seasons of Mandalorian, and they made sure double quick that it would be a victim of its own success.
I'd guess paramount+.
Realistically, disney+ has one ace up its sleeve: gen x'ers and millennials with young kids.
Every parent with young kids wants to raise them on the disney classics they loved as a child. The disney princess films and the renaissance films.
Disney+ is a (relatively) cheap way to get all that conveniently as well as a bunch of animated shows to show their kids when they need to entertain them with something "safe".
That market will be very loyal. It's not enough to sustain the platform as it is but it will still bring in a lot of money.
They were making more money selling DVDs and Blu-Ray and then the studios all agreed it was time to kill the home video market and go into streaming. Target only has an endcap for movies now, it's pathetic.
>They were making more money selling DVDs and Blu-Ray
Were they really?
Selling a subscription is the dream of every corpo, plenty of people pay once and then either forget to cancel or leave it running out of habit, and that's just the people who would normally not give them money otherwise.
Do we have actual figures? Remember the stock's price and mcap doesn't actually reflect the reality of a company's finances.
Most analysts agree that home video was much more profitable for Disney than streaming. In fact, streaming isn't profitable at all, and that's part of the problem. Home video was a huge part of Disney's income and Iger gave it the flush to speculate on streaming.
I'm still amazed how well Mando S2 ended even though I'm not a big fan of this very average story
But then they double struck its success with Bobby Fett and Mando S3 that undid the whole S1 and S2
Literally what the frick did they think???????
It's too late to revive the brand. Having been on SW forums since the prequel days, the brand has never been more dead. And I myself have become apathetic towards it. Not even in the mood to engage in the EU stuff, or anything to it.
I just don't understand why I should care about the Filoni-verse when we already saw Rise of Skywalker and knows that none of these events even matter in the slightest. Why do I care about Thrawn coming back if he is a non-factor (if not already defeated) by the time Palps also comes back to life and is the biggest threat? Why do I care about Ahsoka when she is, once again, missing in all the key events of the Sequel Trilogy?
I've asked this to other people in the past and the default response is >Well why do you care about any other Star Wars media aside from the main films
And my answer is that most other *good* SW media don't tie themselves heavily into fate of the galaxy type bullshit. Clone Wars video games and shows were contained in that time period and never had any grand ambition beyond that. Even the new Jedi Survivor games is about some dude just adventuring across the galaxy with his witch waifu. Yet with Ahsoka I'm expected to believe Thrawn is about to revive the Empire to a point of strength that they can overthrow the Republic and will bring in the Dathomir witches or whatever yet none of this ever shows up in the movies. The only cope I can think of is that this will all come back in the new Rey trilogy coming up, but I can't see Kathleen giving Filoni input into any movies and will just keep him on the Disney+ bench.
They will make a S2 because they need to save face. Disney would rather blow another 200 million dollars for a show no one watches than admit that the CHUDS won.
>one of the lead actors dead >no one watching >troonylite about to bomb >Rebel Moon about to break netflix records >Dunc Part II to sweep next year's oscars >even Foundation has a lot more interest and higher quality
I'm not sure. I'd almost expect a relatively low budget film (like $80-$100m) straight to disney+ to conclude the story and act as the end of disney's star wars venture.
The Acolyte.
Starring a literal troony. With no connection to any of the previous films. Daphne Keen is another one of the leads.
They've already filmed the entire thing too. It was originally set to release in November but they haven't even shown the trailer yet. Probably because they're so confident in its quality...
>”no connection to any of the previous films”
That’s a good thing >”Daphne Keen is another one of the leads”
That’s not a bad thing either. Show’s still gonna be a dumpster fire of biblical proportions though. It’s funny, I watch all the live action D+ star wars shows with my stepdad but even I know not to make him suffer through this
>That’s a good thing
Theoretically, it could be. But the lack of ties means that audiences won't care at all. The only audience star wars has left are the nostalgia babbies who want le epic references. No one is going to tune into some cringey morons playing with lightsabers with bad vfx >That’s not a bad thing either.
Dafne is okay. I don't know if she's sufficiently charismatic to lead a blockbuster sci fi franchise though. His Dark Materials worked because she's supposed to be a smartass teenager who's withdrawn and distrusting of adults.
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It’s a good thing in the sense if it’s terrible it will be easier to ignore since it won’t have much impact on already existing content, though I wouldn’t be surprised if it featured Yoda, I even hear it might feature Plagueis
how do all of these characters suddenly disappear in time for the sequels? where is Ahsoka during TFA, TLJ, and TROS? Where the frick are Thrawn and these zombie stormtroopers?
couldn't they just hand out these things what ever they might be as part of a promotion sell them at a fraction the store cost or am I missing something here.
>sell them at a fraction the store cost
Probably what happened but no one bought. Starwars (disney) shit clogged bargain bins ever since it was made available. Even giving it away I'm sure wouldn't liquidate the stock.
They sell this shit for 4 bucks, if it was good at that price I throw myself at it, I'd probably even buy multiples of the same character, normal price is 13.
Really no one wants that shit, and who in his right mind would? Look at how unappealing these figures are. Pure woke trash.
Are there any genuine star wars fans left? I'm 100% sure these shows are just watched by women poser nerds who collect funko pops, watch big bang theory, cheered when dothraki hordes slaughtered people of her own skin color and thinks knowing the vulcan salute is deep nerd lore.
they are already in full damage control mode.
most viewed season finale of a first season of any star wars show airing since 2020 on disney+ with a female lead consisting of less than 10 episodes per season
>Are they still going forward with the Filoni movie?
These are pretty low numbers. I haven't seen any info on season 2, which would obviously have been ordered if this did better
You really think Filoni won't find a way to make a second seasond about his daughteru Ahsoka?
Filoni has 0 pull after these shit numbers. 800k people that's like CW level ratings.
Which is probably all they counted for considering it's a sequel to CW and Rebels
Filoni will just tell Cathlyn he will do a movie or the other series for free, while Rosario's agent will weight in to keep her employed
Yeah bro, I’m sure disney executives spent over $100,000,000 for cw tier vieweship numbers. Let me guess, it’s all part of the plan?
Mandalorian should be something like that now too.
The Filoni movie was always going to end up turning into a Disney + series.
There will never be another Star Wars movie
I think that'd be for the best
>solo and the ST were so unpopular/bad it killed star wars movies
And kenobi/book of boba and this have killed most fans interest in streaming star wars shlop
>movies that made billions of dollars are actually unpopular because.....BECAUSE I SAID SO OKAY
Kathleen, can you give me some blackmail pointers so I can get a promotion at work?
There’s more money in the movies. TROS made a billion even after all the TLJ outrage
600 million budget 1 billion box office. They get half of box office. It literally lost them money
Oh there will be. But it will be us adapting the Heir to the Empire, Jedi Academy and New Jedi Order series dropping their PDFs into the AI tools and receiving full length shows or movies with full voice acting and perfect photorealistic copies of these homosexual actors during their prime. Hollywood and world israeliteery are finished. The time of the white incel has come.
Soon
That blonde is so sexy. Any idea who she is modeled after?
No idea, but every cover from the New Jedi Order books are similar in quality to this. Even Jaina and Jacen have great artwork. Modern day Hollywood couldn’t even find actors this aesthetic. We need AI tools. I know it’s a meme at this point, but one of my old childhood friends works at Adobe in the Bay Area and said the video AI tools they’re working on that haven’t been released publicly yet will give us the ability to make entire shows and movies similar in quality already to the still images we have free access to now. It’s coming. They’re going to have to figure out a way to pass laws to prevent us from making Hollywood completely obsolete.
god damn these women are so pretty
If only
(and thats a good thing!)
Rey movie will do 1 BILLIE.
And that's a good thing.
Thank you Rian
Who cares? Star Wars has always made money from merch. There are still many fans who are willing to buy Ashoka toys. She is the most popular female character.
Anon…
should we tell him??
Kids don't care about toys anymore, they just want electronics and fortnite skins.
no one under 30 gives a shit about star wars. its fricking over.
Everyone under 30 should be roped
kids only care about the vidya games. star wars doesnt get good games anymore. only shitty movies.
What about that game with a ginger gay?
People only like it because there literally was no other new Star Wars vidya to play
like i said, good games
First was decent enough to do well, this last one was not received well. Even in the first, the repulsive bug eyed negress saves the protagonist repeatedly and takes over during the climax against Vader. No one wants to see this thing, not even blacks.
>search bug eyed black woman
>pic related first result
Man, remember when Star Wars was a gold mine of awesome video games? Even the stinkers at least had soul.
What kind of brand-blind psychopath does it take to say "Let's buy Lucasfilm for 4 billion dollars, but shutter Lucasarts completely."
So should anyone over 30 that watches this shite.
Many people my age (~23) are metaphorically roping themselves with gay left politics and imagined mental illnesses (that turn into real mental illnesses)
I can still enjoy kino trike the original trilogy to pass the time while my generations kills its mind with bullshit
I have been wondering this for years WHY THE FRICK DID THEY SHUT DOWN LUCAS ARTS.
the main thing that got millennials into star wars in the late 90s and early 2000s was the near endless spam of great movie tie in games. I cant even think of one game in the last decade that's tied directly into the sequel trilogy when the prequels had 100s.
how the frick did Disney frick this up so badly all they had to do was make a sequel trilogy that made sense. they should of sat around for 3 years setting up 5-10 different plots they could go with. pay 1000 nerds to look at them all make them sign an NDA then go with the one people liked best. but what they did was just rip off the OT and expected people to love what ever the frick they threw on the screen.
>I cant even think of one game in the last decade that's tied directly into the sequel trilogy
There are 2 lego star wars game, one just for force awakens and one that does the disney trilogy (+prequels and OT)
Lucasarts was on its last leg before the Disney buyout. They had two rounds of layoffs in 2010 and a bunch of talent left. But you're right we haven't gotten shit for games since then
>bring on EA executive
>suddenly cancel half your games in progress, the entire development cycle becomes fricked up
>how could this have happened?
but 2010 was a dead time for the entire brand they should of kept luaus arts running if they knew they were going to make new films in only a few years.
You're missing the point. Lucasarts was sabotaged. The only question is why exactly.
so let me get this straight they hired an EA executive to run Lucasarts for a time then they shut it down. WTF there had to be some shady shit going down with EA and Disney for that to happen.
It was before that where the decline started. Jim Ward gutted the company and they became reliant on external devs. He wanted to move LA to publishing fewer, but bigger games
>He wanted to move LA to publishing fewer, but bigger games
Dumbass AAA gays.
>Capeshit and SW are finally falling apart
It makes me so happy. Am I a bad person?
Being happy that someone’s pain will soon be over doesn’t make you a bad person
Why would that make you a bad person, I'm a SW fan and I'm happy to see shitsney fail.
Dead brand. They deliberately pissed off all the old fans, and zoomers don't care at all to compensate. Star Wars might as well as be toxic waste now.
>Dead brand
And yet their last movie made a billion
>And yet their last movie made a billion
$416M budget
figure $150M marketing. It made $1.07B.
So Rise of Skywalker likely LOST money given 1/2 their BO was foreign.
Even if it didn't lose money, it just barely broke even, all the while it was expected to recoup the loss from Solo.
Which is why it's a miracle Disney didn't outrght shut Lucasfilm down after Indy V bombed even worse than Solo.
Tbf only boomers care about Indy. And Indy was never on the same level as SW.
>And Indy was never on the same level as SW.
It was still a major cash cow. Even the shitty one with the aliens made a huge profit.
>Which is why it's a miracle Disney didn't outrght shut Lucasfilm down after Indy V bombed even worse than Solo.
They have only losses going forward, it's not going to last forever like this. Ahsoka cost $120?Million, and for what?
Finale has 800K(!!) people watching it?
Ordinary dipshit shows like The Amazing Race routinely get 3-4 million people on a regular episode. And don't cost $15M for a single ep
>Ordinary dipshit shows like The Amazing Race routinely get 3-4 million people on a regular episode. And don't cost $15M for a single ep
This is what I don't understand about this era of flop wars, they just keep making these dumbshit streaming shows about side characters to what? Sell toys? Nobody is watching this stuff and it makes 0 impact on popular culture
Disney has pissed away 11 billion on Disney+ and streaming to the point they are talking about selling ESPN and ABC to keep the cash flow going because they only have a couple hundred million in liquid cash rn.
Basically Igor bet the house and he better pull it off or people are getting fired by the share holders. That’s what is happening at Disney.
Here’s some average TV ratings for example
That was four years ago. If they thought there was money to be had theatrically believe me they’d be chasing it
Remember when they said they wanted a new Star wars movie every other year.
That was before studios jumped on streaming meme
It had nothing to do with streaming.
First movie of the series made two billion
Hey, Kathleen!
>And yet their last movie made a billion less than the first of the trilogy
Poor anon had a stroke, don't worry bro I got you and finished it
How is that billion dollar hotel doing?
How is their "Star Wars" land doing?
How are those toys selling?
How are those shows on D+ doing?
Pretty sure that any profit, if they ever got any, is lost on all of the above failures.
Is that why they stopped making them, copeshill?
Hopefully not. And I say this as someone who actually likes Ahsoka character a lot. But between this and Rebels, he has done enough damage. Not surprising, considering he used to have George, a team of experienced screenwriters hired by George, a team of talented animators and excellent actors to carry his ass. And he had NO WRITING CREDIT on the original run of the show that made him famous! But the fans just gave him all the credit because he had the most publicity, when he was more of a middle-manager guy.
No George, no Star Wars.
>No George, no Star Wars.
This.
/thread
>>No George, no Star Wars.
Movieonlylets are so funny
>make garbage filler show to prepare for your movie where stuff will happen
>movie gets cancelled because nothing happened in your garbage filler show
Fioni will make Luke a main character and people will 100% see the movie
So what? The first episodes always have big numbers.
What if we had shows that are nothing except for first episodes? We could give them a higher budget also, since they’re sure to make more money.
Filoni is a hack , the show was garbage, and so were Rebels and CW
Surely this is an indictment of Disney+ weekly release model? The whole appeal of streaming was that it got rid of the two frustrating aspects of TV, ads and weekly installments.
You need to watch a children cartoon to understand this show. I mean, who does that?
The funny part is a children cartoon being better written, better directed, better shot, better acted and looking visually more pleasing than a multi-million "prestige" live-action series. Who the frick wants to watch a bunch of shitty hags that can't act their way out of a paper bag, wearing cheap ass, ugly makeup and prosthetics that look worse than the ones from the original Star Wars films? Imagine taking cute characters that showed emotions and acted like living people and turning them into ugly planks of wood that are played by *actually* living people, though they seem more dead than actual computer generated models. Yikes.
Fricking up Hera the way they did after already getting it right in a fricking game is an insult.
They should have used this technique for Ahsoka too.
Other than Hayden Christensen, David Tennant and Ray Stevenson, it was complete and utter fricking travesty.
Dude what?
There she cute (cartoon version)
in your picture she's ugly as frick, no different than in the show
>getting it right in the game
What was the point of mocapping the voice actress and then make her look like a green black chick?
Puta looks so done with life
The funny thing is that it is all garbage and morons like you continue to watch it
Don’t insult my MEW you stupid fricking Incel Lloyd pice. Of shit
I don't know but I want Dawson to give me a blowjob.
Still more than andor
Holy shit make content for zoomers. Its not that hard. I am a millennial but even I understand this house of cards of making shit for the 28-41 audience can't last forever
The demographic isn't even the problem necessarily, it's just that the house of cards is built on the unstable platform of streaming. If it were the days of broadcast television, this shit would have gotten stamped out the first time an advertiser stopped sponsoring reboots with bad ratings.
>I understand this house of cards of making shit for the 28-41 audience can't last forever
This premise for an idea is shit. Clone Wars wasn't that heavily watched, ended years ago, and Ahsoka was a supporting character.
They keep throwing shit against the wall that's a mix of nostalgia and shit ideas. Same thing Paramount is doing with Star Trek.
It's all shit and it's killing these franchises. And that's a good thing
They've already made a show about Obi-Wan and it also failed. Who else can they milk now? Luke?
I don’t know what would be funnier; them trying to double down on making him a b***h or the sheer seething behind the scenes at being forced to make him an actual hero again.
They couldn't even make a boba fett show about a ruthless bounty hunter a show about a ruthless bounty hunter. They are beyond redemption. These fricking idiots will forever refuse to make something people will like. It's on purpose. They subvert and shit on things, because that's all they want to do. They don't want to make good and enjoyable entertainment, they're not even trying and failing to do that. They are intending and succeeding at creating the opposite. Bland, boring, subversive shite is the name of the game.
>They've already made a show about Obi-Wan and it also failed. Who else can they milk now? Luke?
That's all done. Nostalgia is over nobody cares any more.
All new ideas, new concepts, totally new everything.
this
that's why mando was so popular, because it distanced itself from sequel trilogy as much as possible
If they made a nostalgiabait show centred around telling the ST to frick off it would easily be their best rated show of the lot.
It just won’t happen for a variety of obvious reasons.
>because it distanced itself from sequel trilogy as much as possible
They HAVE to do this going forward. People are not caring about some 2nd rate dipshit character in the original movies, it's over.
We don't want a Jabba the Hutt series or some shit explaining how R2-D2 is delivering food in a sushi restaurant. Nobody will watch that because nobody cares. The original movies were a nice hero's journey, milking it lowers the stakes way too low.
It totally hems in any story line, and we already know what's going to happen.
It's also why prequels very rarely work.
Total hard reboot
They keep injecting these dogshit shows with some present-day woke shit; little 10yr old princess leia is running around with obi wan and she's so smart and inspirational holy FRICK who are they making this for? Even the most wide-eyed grinning neckbearded soi bois who sperg out in excitement over anything branded with star wars didn't like that shit. Good god I want to see into the exec meetings where they're like
>people need to see a 10yr old princess leia whose good with droids and tech stuff and says inspirational things cause she's a leader its so important!!
They are not making content for boomers either.
>make content for millennials
>the poorest generation currently alive
>the most moronic childish generation on the planet
>they eat your shit up but don’t have any money to buy your shit
>lose money
>push away everyone else that used to be a fan
>lose more money
Maybe they should have focused more on the generations that have room for collectibles in their home and don’t spend 85% of their wages on a broom closet because they took a phd in gender studies
All millennials should be killed
>even IGN hates it when thinking about it, 2 weeks after they gave ahsoka a 9/10
https://twitter.com/IGN/status/1713057292612985242
>In the end, Ahsoka Season 1 it didn’t end up being a season of television at all. Instead, it was individual nostalgia plays sprinkled through long patches of nothing. >Here’s why the show reminds us what’s wrong with Star Wars:
>samba tv
that's the equivalent of someone making a poll for 50 people and then saying that the results apply to 50 million people. basic clickbait fuel shit
nice cope
Samba.tv is owned by Disney. The same company whose CEO just beat the writers strike into submission. Remember a month ago when they were calling him Satan for saying that shot about driving them into homelessness? Yeah, neither do they apparently.
>basic clickbait fuel shit
Why haven't they announced a season 2 yet? Show already ended don't they know viewership all along?
And yet it's getting a second season.
>And yet it's getting a second season.
Nothing has been announced
Sure, and rian Johnson is still getting his own Star Wars trilogy lmao
Ahsoka is dead, Star Wars is dead. Disney fricked themselves over hard, literally their only hope is to do a hard reboot and start from scratch with nothing but the OT, PT, and CW as canon.
Holy frick that's bad.
Absolutely not. The Filoniverse movie was announced prematurely and that's a recurring problem at Lucasfilm. The only reason Ahsoka was hyped up as the show that would save Star Wars is because it was basically the last thing Disney hadn't tried short of giving the fans what they actually want and doing a continuity reset. The only card they had left in their deck was to bring the cartoons into live action and they completely botched that, so now what? They have nothing.
The people who actually still like the D+ shows go absolutely bananas when Glub Shitto type characters show up, but the problem is there simply are not very many of those types of people. Disney was under the impression that there ware tens of millions of Star Wars fans who wait around with their mouths open wide for Disney to shit in like they're getting a gourmet dinner, but that is simply not the case. To have any kind of real success they have to actually make good shows and movies, and 6 filler episodes per season and 2 that are actually interesting and engaging is not good television.
Characters walking down long hallways and staring at each other awkwardly is filler to pad out a show's runtime. Don't let anyone gaslight you into thinking otherwise.
>They have nothing.
a show about HEROIC Luke
If Disney did a Luke Skywalker show the whole thing would be a long drawn out foreshadowing of where he ends up in The Last Jedi, and that would be an instant kiss of death for the show. A Luke Skywalker show is the one thing fans would go crazy for if it was done right, but Lucasfilm as it currently exists is incapable of making it without the fans hating it, and they know this. Look at how Obi-Wan ended up. I'm sure there were people at Lucasfilm who insisted that the show needed to be good and fought for it, but it was company policy that the show had to make Obi-Wan look bad and that it had to be a backdoor pilot for female characters, and that the reverse-bechdel test be enforced.
The reverse Bechdel test basically says that two male characters can't have a conversation without a female chaperone. It's why in the Han Solo movie, Han and Lando never actually get a moment alone to have fraternal bonding without L-Phoebe-7 interrupting them, and it's why Obi-Wan had to go on a quest with Leia instead of Luke even though Obi-Wan bonding with a young Luke is the show that was originally pitched. Company policy is that men are not allowed to be alone with each other because there are no male-only spaces anymore, because when men are left alone without the den mother watching they can potentially plot their escape from the longhouse. That is the mindset that exists at Lucasfilm and that's why a Luke Skywalker show is a non-starter, even if they wanted to make it.
the problem is rebels fans
they are either people who watched the show as an adult because they're a manchild, or those who watched the show growing up (who are now adults) and got attached to it
coincidentally, both like TCW because its also a cartoon, and filoni worked on it
rebels, as a show, is not very good
but those people have nostalgia goggles for it, along with TCW
however, they believe the false notion that Filoni is this amazing writer because "he made TCW" (he didnt, and he only co-wrote one episode before S7)
Filoni panders to this fanbase with his characters, the ghost crew, rex, ahsoka, maul, his version of thrawn etc, but no one else gives a shit about those characters, or thinks they're too overused
It’s fascinating that after being mocked for half a fricking decade over their refusal to admit the Rian trilogy is not happening, they STILL announce pathetically transparent confidence ploys early and end up looking like idiots when it never happens
>the Rian trilogy
It is still happenening.
Keep telling yourself that, Rian. Your round little head still has a date with my 9 iron on the golf green.
Anon, I…
Not even Disney shills are still pretending it's happening.
>Disney was under the impression that there ware tens of millions of Star Wars fans who wait around with their mouths open wide for Disney to shit in like they're getting a gourmet dinner, but that is simply not the case.
Yeah exactly. You might have had tons of people on here or reddit or x talking endlessly about these shows, but it appeals to a very small % of the population and will always lose $ given the massive cost of these.
Very few people care about minor characters, people want to watch entertaining stuff. Simple concept, difficult to execute
HOW do they make money on this?? It must cost a fortune to make these episodes/ series.
>YouTube video essays about the series get more views than the series itself and have absolutely no existent budgets to produce
>HOW do they make money on this?? It must cost a fortune to make these episodes/ series.
They don't that's why no season 2 has been announced. They will see what else they have in the hopper but why would they want to lose MORE money on a 2nd season.
link to the video in your image?
?si=pNUtWxwfLJcYapHf
They don't, Disney+ as a whole has been a money pit since its inception and even had a negative effect on the box office of their theatrical releases
>Older Millennials tuned in at the highest rate to watch whether #Thrawn made it off Peridea
I knew Millenniods were the ones who slurped up all this nu-wars shit the most. Why am I not surprised?
The dumbest generation
Meanwhile Andor season 2 is still happening hopefully.
Because they greenlit it before season 1 even finished filming
They were almost done filming the whole season before the strike shut it down. It's still happening, it's just going to be a while.
Andor stands alone if you're already into slowboiling spy thriller/high tech prison escape with serious characters. It's delivered through the Star Wars aesthetics. I think they were probably heavily inspired by a little 80's scifi gem called Fortress starring Christopher Lambert and many others. On program
Huge fan of season 1, but I dread for season 2. The strikes are a big part of why, but also there's always the dread of them trying to shove in some rebels cameos or something, and more pertinently the relatively tight plotting of season 1 will be harder to pull off if its supposed to cover all 4/5 years until Andor's death.
Andor was the only thing that critics actually liked out of all nu-wars shit no way KK and feloni wont try to actully get involved in its production for season 2 and cluster frick it with baby yoda and ashoka tie ins
>A real human being and a real hero
He is just like me.
pockets are fomenting
>star slop with geriatric black woman
laughing gnome dot jpg
Those are dogshit numbers
My wife loves Star Wars but ne er watches any of this TV shit. Even Star Wars fans have a singke solitarty standard.
I'd have expected more than a 30% drop off.
That said these figures only tell you many many people fired up the episode, not how many watched the entire thing. For all we know half of them may not have lasted a minute. Not to mention people having the show on auto-play while they do something else.
disney is distilling the slopslurpers
what remains is the die hard "will consoom any slop" base
Good retention for disney star wars.
nice cope mouseBlack person
Those numbers are embarrassing. Now imagine how many of those are actual SW fans instead of normies who watch Disneyslop regularly. I almost feel bad for Filoni but he's too far up his ass to admit his garbage isn't good.
Cinemaphile and everyone else got filtered hard by this
Stop using phrases you don't understand.
>slightly lower than Mandalorian
I thought Mandalorian was the biggest thing on Disney+? If it's only slightly higher than Andor and Ahsoka, does that mean Disney+ is basically dead?
It’s the worst streaming service by far, if you don’t like slop wars, capeshit or woke cartoons there’s literally nothing else to watch in it
That show was fricking garbage
I even watched andor, but skipped ashoka.
It needs alot of backstory from 1000 episodes of cartoons to care about. I'm not watching that.
Kathleen Kennedy likes to double down and go foward with stuff that no one is watching. So yes they are going forward with a movie.
We need more Mandalorian Women for me to keep watching
Considering it´s the only DW piece of media worth anything at this point they definitely should...
>Thrawn returns
So can we retire these literally who characters like Ahsoka and Sabine and Hera and bring Luke, Leia, Han, Ben Iblis, Mara Jade back to deal with this threat? Or will Filoni's cartoon characters continue to parasitize on Legacy stories?
>Mara Jade
We have Mara Jade at home
>Ben Iblis, Mara Jade
Those are even bigger whos then the cartoon characters.
Nobody under 25 is checking for Star Wars shit
Hilarious that the sequel trilogy was largely billed as a new generation's star wars and was such dogshit zoomers actually do not care/hate star wars
All Ahsoka Fans are Grown Men
Two words
Hondo movie
Probably
Hollywood loves bad decisions and losing money
There are AMVs on YouTube with more views than that. It's so fricking over.
Let him cook
He exposed himself as a complete moron.
He cooked himself.
>Mara Jade
Why is seth green there?
Robot Chicken Star Wars stuff I believe.
Why do people post this seriously like George isn't a huge jokester?
What is actually interesting about Star Wars anymore?
They've milked A and B level stories for all they are worth
Everything else is just so niche that it wouldn't make sense as a high dollar show or movie.
Starwars has unga bunga now?
Bell worthy.
The worst thing about Ahsoka, like all Disney Wars, is that a competent team could have easily taken the concept and basically all of its wider plot beats (though would need to shorten or remove the MacGuffin hunt), and it would have been a slam dunk. The problem is Disney wants to do EVERYTHING in-house, and has no idea how to make good TV. They refuse to outsource to an experienced production company, so even when they have decent episode directors on, the show still ends up looking cheap. When they have not-so-experienced directors it looks like putrid fricking ass. Filoni also can't write (this was obvious the second his final-season TCW episodes dropped) or direct and he needs to be kicked out pretty much completely. He sucks.
Star Wars would be a fricking mess without Filoni.
Are you serious? The second he got control over the writing of TCW it became utter shit. I don't know where you gays got it in your heads that this guy is owed credit for making TCW, but he's not, and he's a dumbass.
As opposed to now…?
It's not Marvel.
Star Wars was a million times better before Filoni THOUGH.
LOL
He did that shit?
Yes, Rebels and the last season of TCW.
>spinsabers are actually the most OP lightsaber type of all by far and if they were used right it'd be fricking impossible to ever defend against them
>every Inquisitor just goes full SPIN2WIN BAYBEEEEEE and gets killed in two seconds
It's frankly infuriating.
A motorized lightsaber is actually a terrible design because it would frick up your wrist, and it would be easy to deflect blows from because it would be limited by how strong your wrist is. It's a simple matter of physics.
No, it's an amazing design because it's like having an extra wrist, two actually since the circular joint can swivel on the hilt as well as move the emitter along its circumference. The blade can strike or block from essentially any angle. Here's an obvious example, say you lock a strike - Well the second blade can just swivel up from the direction of the enemy's pommel and cut them down, with no real defense but to retreat.
It also has all the advantages of Dooku's curved saber (or Ahsoka's in reverse), but even better because the angle can be adjusted at any time on the fly. It also fixes the core issue of saberstaffs because the two blades don't only need to be in alignment, meaning the element of predictability or restricting your own motions is removed.
The franchise is at rock bottom and Filoni has done absolutely nothing to fix it because he's yet to even acknowledge that anything has gone wrong.
The last season was good, and the siege of mandalore was the only good thing released under Disney. Though that probably shouldn't count, because it was largely developed pre-sale. The Bad Batch arc was written and animated way before when George was still around and it is 95% unchanged, and the other two arcs were also conceptualized with George and the scripts were written. Even though the middle arc was changed from an Asian guy to two Hispanic sisters, otherwise they are pretty much the same. It can't be called Filoni's solo work, because he was still relying on the scripts and notes that were developed with Lucas.
Rebels and this show, on the other hand...
I wonder what franchise Star Wars orphans are flocking to right now like refugees.
Remember watching 5 seconds (including auto playing) sounds as a watch
I watched Ahsoka only to see more Shin, I wouldn't have known about it if I had not browsed Cinemaphile. I saw the asses too, combined with Shin I made the effort to watch it and honestly it was fine. I don't get it why people thought it was bad, it's a star wars show. They are all stupid to a point. Star wars is not for the thinking White man, because once you start going over with it with a fine comb you unravel problems with the premise and plot immediately. That girl who Shin wounded in the beginning has a nice little ass. Syndulla has a nice ass. That's all that mattered.
Nope, they won't cancel a multi-ethnic women driven high profile project. It's just not feasible in today's political environment.
Today's poltiical environment has changed. the majority is now sick of that kinda thing. Don't accept their consensus illusion projecting.
It was never about majorities or minorities. What's important is what is seen as right in the environment the creators function in.
How do they define "household"? Sounds like they're just saying that to make it sound like more people watched it than in reality. How do they know it's a "household" instead of one guy living alone.
Because there are census statistics on the average number of people in American households, anon. Don't be dense. This is how ratings have always worked.
If your show is on TV I can buy that many families just have 1 and if it's on, that's what everyone is watching IF they're watching at all.
But if your shit is on streaming and watchable from anyone's personal phone, saying every "watched" instance counts as an entire household starts to sound disingenuous.
Dawson is just about 15-20 years to old they should have cast some hottie to play asoka and people might eat it up
I hate you moronic coomers that think shoving hot women in every scene will just simply fix Disney making the entire OT pointless.
Go back to OFwhere you can pay to simp all you want.
All women in this wear pants and have stone face 24/7. Nobody would fricking care either way. It's pathetic lazy sterile badly written corporate product. Morons only gave it a chance because muh Thrawn and then they managed to frick up even that.
And they should have cast someone NOT BLACK, because Ahsoka was voiced by a WHITE girl. Dawson's voice is so fricking rude and black, it's unbearable. She sounds nothing like Ahsoka and has no fricking range whatsoever. She can't emote neither with her face, nor with her voice. How can one frick up so badly, the biggest miscast in the entire show.
This used to be the second largest media franchise of all time...
so it's fricking Millenials are keeping Star Wars alive? yikes dawg
I think Lucasfilm will enter a semi-permanent hiatus (until they're bought out by another company) after the first entry of Rey's trilogy releases. That is, assuming disney doesn't shut them down after the troonylite bombs in the next couple of months
I don't think the Rey movie is ever going to come out. Disney is tightening the purse strings trying to fend off a hostile takeover, and the last thing they need is a Star Wars movie that does Dial of Destiny numbers, or worse.
I don't know.
Don't underestimate Kathy's moronation. They've clearly shown that she cannot and will not be fired. And her biggest desire is this Rey film so unless disney are selling soon, then it's happening
>They've clearly shown that she cannot and will not be fired.
this
If you can't get fired by making an Indiana Jones movie historically flop, you will never get fired.
From what I've heard, Lucasfilm has basically had the money pipe shut off except for the projects that are already filmed so it doesn't matter if Kennedy is still in charge or not. She has a list of all the men in hollywood who have touched her ass and so it's unlikely that there will ever be a grand public shaming of her. The closest we'll ever get is Steven Spielberg's snub of her at the Dial of Destiny premier when he honored John Williams instead of her. Disney should have fired her after The Last Jedi but they decided to take the slow painful approach of giving her every chance imaginable to redeem herself, and now they have to wait for her to retire before they can do anything to fix Star Wars.
>they decided to take the slow painful approach of giving her every chance imaginable to redeem herself
Imgaine having billions of dollars to throw away by taking a gamble on "what if she redeems herself".
A very interesting business model indeed.
>They've clearly shown that she cannot and will not be fired
>If you can't get fired by making an Indiana Jones movie historically flop, you will never get fired.
What's up with that? It can't be mere failing upwards since she's at the top, no one benefits from her being shit. How did she get such immunity?
Obviously no one knows "officially" (not anyone who can tell us at least).
Theories and rumours revolve around the following
>no one else wants the job
>the brand is too fricked to be worth trying to salvage
>disney is stacked enough with moronic people who Kathy is friends with and who won't remove her
>disney is focused on other issues
>there are some very smart people who can manipulate numbers well and convince execs that Kathy isn't actually the problem
>no one else wants the job
not even improbable, just plain impossible
>the brand is too fricked to be worth trying to salvage
We're talking about star wars, if it was put up for sale it would get immediate and gigantic offers from the biggest media conglomerates
>disney is stacked enough with moronic people who Kathy is friends with and who won't remove her
I'll take this one for now because it makes sense. But I'm still convinced she's part of the child sacrificing circles.
>not even improbable, just plain impossible
I mean taking the job would arguably be career suicide. They won't consider just anyone. They'd need someone with "clout" that people would trust. And considering the entire franchise is a joke to most people, who would want that?
Remember, Gunn only got the dcu after several other people turned it down before him. Star Wars is in a much worse state than DC.
>We're talking about star wars, if it was put up for sale it would get immediate and gigantic offers from the biggest media conglomerates
Sure. But that's a different company. Disney can't salvage it, arguably, without retconning a shitton which would create a lot of controversy and look like they were backtracking
Look I don't know. But it makes sense, theoretically
>Disney can't salvage it, arguably, without retconning a shitton which would create a lot of controversy and look like they were backtracking
Wasn't it at disney that it was recently said that they'd tone down with the wokeshit? (I hope no one forgives them)
You know, I'm really getting Elon Musk Twitter takeover vibes in regards to the Nelson Peltz saga. Disney is clearly deathly afraid of outsiders getting onto the board of directors, especially if they replace Bob Iger with an outside hire. We're never going to get a Disney equivalent of the Twitter files but something tells me that a host of high level executives are going to lose their jobs if Peltz is successful.
There's really only two ways I could see Kennedy being fired rather than just riding out another 5 years at Lucasfilm until she retires. Either an outsider takes the position of power needed to fire her, or Disney sells Star Wars to a company that is willing to fire her. Bob Iger is rumored to have been doing passive aggressive shit to try and get her to retire sooner but obviously he is an inept midwit, and it's his fault that Disney is stocked to the gills with insane ideologues, because he hired them.
And there’s also a Spielberg quote from somewhere that “Kathy knows where all the bodies are buried” from her previous career as Speilberg’s assistant, and while it’s a stock phrase, you have to wonder what it refers to exactly considering Steven Spielberg his friends have literally gang-raped white toddlers to death.
>Steven Spielberg his friends have literally gang-raped white toddlers to death
always see this thrown around with no source. i'd love to be an antisemite but i need a good reason
look up Heather O’Rourke
There's nothing on the net about anything involving something Spielberg did to her. Spoonfeed me.
Rumor has it they’re about to put star wars on ice, meaning after mando S4 there will be a 2-3 year gap with no new live action Star Wars content releasing whatsoever
I don't even know why they are bothering with Mando Season 4. Season 3 was a flop and people and baby yoda isn't selling shit anymore. I don't even think Disney understands the concept of brand damage.
>muh fatigue
any excuse is good to avoid acknowledging no one wants to see ugly women and Black folk in their star wars.
I tried watching an episode but the visuals just look so much worse. I don't know what it is exactly, the makeup looks weird and everyone looks fake like the entire thing is cg. Past shows and movies all looked fine so I don't know what they did here. I wish I wasn't too stupid to put it to words.
It's just bad designs, for example everything looks WAY too clean, the people, ships, equipment. Which might have worked in animation but here it just makes it look like a fan project.
It's because everything is shot on The Volume. If you need something to look dirtier on a real movie set you just need some charcoal and hairspray and it'll be done in a few hours. If a digital movie set doesn't look grimy enough there's a huge cumbersome technical process to change it, and in the end it's still CG.
They will be going full force with their dogshit just like they have been.
They are committed to failure.
>Star wars TV show produced by Disney gets the same viewership as a medium-high tier youtuber
How do they still exist?
Terrible
>863k over 6 (SIX) days
LMAO that's worse than CW Gotham Knights
It's over for disney+ as a whole, they said game of thrones was dead but even that looks pretty alive next to marvel and star wars to me. It's time to pull the plug
I wonder which is going to be the first to fall, Disney+ or Paramount+? They are both notoriously bad streaming services held up entirely by back catalog content that can't get a hit. Disney got lucky with the first two seasons of Mandalorian, and they made sure double quick that it would be a victim of its own success.
I'd guess paramount+.
Realistically, disney+ has one ace up its sleeve: gen x'ers and millennials with young kids.
Every parent with young kids wants to raise them on the disney classics they loved as a child. The disney princess films and the renaissance films.
Disney+ is a (relatively) cheap way to get all that conveniently as well as a bunch of animated shows to show their kids when they need to entertain them with something "safe".
That market will be very loyal. It's not enough to sustain the platform as it is but it will still bring in a lot of money.
They were making more money selling DVDs and Blu-Ray and then the studios all agreed it was time to kill the home video market and go into streaming. Target only has an endcap for movies now, it's pathetic.
>They were making more money selling DVDs and Blu-Ray
Were they really?
Selling a subscription is the dream of every corpo, plenty of people pay once and then either forget to cancel or leave it running out of habit, and that's just the people who would normally not give them money otherwise.
Do we have actual figures? Remember the stock's price and mcap doesn't actually reflect the reality of a company's finances.
Most analysts agree that home video was much more profitable for Disney than streaming. In fact, streaming isn't profitable at all, and that's part of the problem. Home video was a huge part of Disney's income and Iger gave it the flush to speculate on streaming.
I'm still amazed how well Mando S2 ended even though I'm not a big fan of this very average story
But then they double struck its success with Bobby Fett and Mando S3 that undid the whole S1 and S2
Literally what the frick did they think???????
Paramount+ 100%
They should fund the public beheading of filioni. Now that is something I would pay to see
Put him in the fricking hat he wears and I'll be the first to contribute
It's too late to revive the brand. Having been on SW forums since the prequel days, the brand has never been more dead. And I myself have become apathetic towards it. Not even in the mood to engage in the EU stuff, or anything to it.
I just don't understand why I should care about the Filoni-verse when we already saw Rise of Skywalker and knows that none of these events even matter in the slightest. Why do I care about Thrawn coming back if he is a non-factor (if not already defeated) by the time Palps also comes back to life and is the biggest threat? Why do I care about Ahsoka when she is, once again, missing in all the key events of the Sequel Trilogy?
I've asked this to other people in the past and the default response is
>Well why do you care about any other Star Wars media aside from the main films
And my answer is that most other *good* SW media don't tie themselves heavily into fate of the galaxy type bullshit. Clone Wars video games and shows were contained in that time period and never had any grand ambition beyond that. Even the new Jedi Survivor games is about some dude just adventuring across the galaxy with his witch waifu. Yet with Ahsoka I'm expected to believe Thrawn is about to revive the Empire to a point of strength that they can overthrow the Republic and will bring in the Dathomir witches or whatever yet none of this ever shows up in the movies. The only cope I can think of is that this will all come back in the new Rey trilogy coming up, but I can't see Kathleen giving Filoni input into any movies and will just keep him on the Disney+ bench.
I think they simply don't want to acknowledge rise of skywalker happened.
They will make a S2 because they need to save face. Disney would rather blow another 200 million dollars for a show no one watches than admit that the CHUDS won.
>one of the lead actors dead
>no one watching
>troonylite about to bomb
>Rebel Moon about to break netflix records
>Dunc Part II to sweep next year's oscars
>even Foundation has a lot more interest and higher quality
I'm not sure. I'd almost expect a relatively low budget film (like $80-$100m) straight to disney+ to conclude the story and act as the end of disney's star wars venture.
>troonylite
what's this
The Acolyte.
Starring a literal troony. With no connection to any of the previous films. Daphne Keen is another one of the leads.
They've already filmed the entire thing too. It was originally set to release in November but they haven't even shown the trailer yet. Probably because they're so confident in its quality...
oh dear.
>”no connection to any of the previous films”
That’s a good thing
>”Daphne Keen is another one of the leads”
That’s not a bad thing either. Show’s still gonna be a dumpster fire of biblical proportions though. It’s funny, I watch all the live action D+ star wars shows with my stepdad but even I know not to make him suffer through this
>That’s a good thing
Theoretically, it could be. But the lack of ties means that audiences won't care at all. The only audience star wars has left are the nostalgia babbies who want le epic references. No one is going to tune into some cringey morons playing with lightsabers with bad vfx
>That’s not a bad thing either.
Dafne is okay. I don't know if she's sufficiently charismatic to lead a blockbuster sci fi franchise though. His Dark Materials worked because she's supposed to be a smartass teenager who's withdrawn and distrusting of adults.
It’s a good thing in the sense if it’s terrible it will be easier to ignore since it won’t have much impact on already existing content, though I wouldn’t be surprised if it featured Yoda, I even hear it might feature Plagueis
how do all of these characters suddenly disappear in time for the sequels? where is Ahsoka during TFA, TLJ, and TROS? Where the frick are Thrawn and these zombie stormtroopers?
They all DIE
It’s the Pokémon retcon effect, where newer Pokémon “always existed” even though they were just made up and don’t appear in older games.
There's a reason every new game takes place in a "Whole new region"
Kanto apparently got 99 percent of pokemon wiped the frick out in that war.
>The Prequels
>The OG Trilogy
>Tartakovsky Clone Wars
>Mandolorian S1
Only Star Wars material worth watching everything else is dogshit made up Disney slop
mando S1 was shit, and Tartakovsky's while entertaining is basically a power creep anime, thus doesn't fit with the rest.
>Marvel announcing Thrawn Alliances comic adaptation with Zahn co-writing
Filoni just doesn't wanna share does he?
Zahn wasn't even consulted on the show, Filoni doesn't give a frick and just considers himself nuG-canon.
>Older millennials tuned in at the highest rate
the absolute state
truly the worst demographic
I fit that demographic. I tuned in. Didn't speak positively of it anywhere though, and I'm not going to buy their merch so?
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Of course they are, hes the perfect dude to create a story that morons thinks is really smart but never once tries to make sense. See: Thawn in Ahsoka
it's over.
couldn't they just hand out these things what ever they might be as part of a promotion sell them at a fraction the store cost or am I missing something here.
>sell them at a fraction the store cost
Probably what happened but no one bought. Starwars (disney) shit clogged bargain bins ever since it was made available. Even giving it away I'm sure wouldn't liquidate the stock.
how did it come to this when they cant even sell toys what a colossal frick up star wars has become
I don't know at least Paramount has stuff like Yellowstone coming out not sure what big Disney shows are actully bringing people onto the service
They sell this shit for 4 bucks, if it was good at that price I throw myself at it, I'd probably even buy multiples of the same character, normal price is 13.
Really no one wants that shit, and who in his right mind would? Look at how unappealing these figures are. Pure woke trash.
Less profit on the long run. Same thing is happening in the fashion industry. They destroy stuff that they don't sell at full price.
Are there any genuine star wars fans left? I'm 100% sure these shows are just watched by women poser nerds who collect funko pops, watch big bang theory, cheered when dothraki hordes slaughtered people of her own skin color and thinks knowing the vulcan salute is deep nerd lore.
>Are there any genuine star wars fans left
Me. But I don't engage in any of the disney shit. I routinely revisit old stuff instead.
They need to give the keys to the kingdom to Tony Gilroy, imagine the kino., imagine the prequel homosexuals seething
they are already in full damage control mode.
most viewed season finale of a first season of any star wars show airing since 2020 on disney+ with a female lead consisting of less than 10 episodes per season
What was the point of making "live action"
if they just child cartoon stories?