No and even calling them the big 3 was fricking stupid. They we're just 3 most iconic. The DC trinity exist because they were some of the few who didn't get hard or soft rebooted for the silver age. The Marvel "big 3" is like the equivalent of a little kid claiming his favorites are the big 3.
The original big 3 were Superman, Batman and Robin. They were the World's Finest. Robin was replaced with Wonder Woman to get that female representation.
She's probably the acquisition they know how to do well the least. Plastic Man would do major numbers if marketed right, especially post '95 when hipster stuff really started to take off.
I thought the separation was because Superman and Batman were from National while Wonder Woman was from All-American. Even though the two merged to create DC, the different properties still maintained some separation. The All-American characters had their “World’s Finest” as Comic Cavalcade, with Wondy, Green Lantern and the Flash.
There's a solid case for keeping the Hulk there just because he'd been the second most well-known and recognizable Marvel character after Spider-Man, for decades just on the strength and longevity of the 70s show. Regardless of Marvel's failure to make his comics sell, in real world terms Iron Man should be there as the biggest star of the MCU era. You could make an argument for Captain America instead of Hulk because of the MCU, but it's one of them.
Wolverine's finally started to decline with comics fans after decades of overexposure, while with normie audiences he and the X-Men peaked in the 90s and their movies got outperformed by characters comics readers considered Literally Who? Just this week Wolverine lost a popularity contest on Marvel's Instagram to Scarlet Witch. It's over.
The troonCU killed Hulk’s popularity and Wolverine’s starpower is waning, he’s starting to equalise with the rest of his team.
The Big 2 of Marvel is Spider-Man and X-Men. There is no third.
"X-Men" isn't a character, it's a group, and Wolverine is the only member of that group with any solo star power. Even the X-Men brand itself has declined due to the comics sucking for more than 20 consecutive years and adaptations just not being as popular and successful as other comics movies.
>Just this week Wolverine lost a popularity contest on Marvel's Instagram to Scarlet Witch.
Instead of pushing Captain Marvel as Marvel's Wonder Woman, they should've used Wanda. People genuinely like her more and they didn't need a massive marketing campaign to do it.
The next round of their tournament puts her up against Spider-Man, so there's no way she's making it any further, but imagine going back in time to any previous decade and trying to tell comics fans that one day Wanda will be more popular than Wolverine.
Deadpool's the only X-Men related character left there, Storm, Jean and Kamala lost to Iron Man, Carol, and Shang Chi.
It's obvious in retrospect that Marvel should have pushed Wanda, but they still don't even seem to understand how badly they dropped the ball there. She didn't fit the expected cookie-cutter "strong female character" mold for a female lead so they thought they could just destroy her and get away with it.
>She didn't fit the expected cookie-cutter "strong female character" mold for a female lead so they thought they could just destroy her and get away with it.
Fricking morons the lot of them. Never hire a bunch of fricking activists to run your shit. They're anti-money.
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I can see how you could look at them weaponizing Wanda's motherhood and femininity against her as being the fault of activists, especially with her adversary being a brown lesbian, but this was much more the fault of Feige himself planning to adapt Wanda's worst comic stories all along. Frankly the comics "fans" who kept calling for Disassembled and House of M because they'd heard of them share some of the blame as well, that probably make Disney think people wanted this.
>She's the flagship character of Marvel
They stopped doing that in 2019, now is back to being spider-man >she sold 50 issues
That was the standard back in the day, that's not impressive and they did it cuz they got tired of being made fun, captain marvel can't last 12 issues
Disney took a Texas Chainsaw to Marvel so they'd stop giving publicity to characters Disney didn't have the film rights for. So Spider-Man took a hit, Wolverine became a skirt, and Deadpool turned heel on the Avengers. They haven't recovered since even if the gender swapped legacy heroes were declared a bad idea and scrapped.
No. In fact, if you look at modern comic book sales, there is only a big 2 in all of comics: Spider-Man and Batman. Nothing else matters outside of their franchises.
They won't even if they should. Even if Marvel and DC are running at a loss, they exist to hold IPs for Disney and Warner Brothers Discovery respectively and they'll make their money in the box office and on merchandising. DC has been running at a loss since at least the 1970s but sales don't matter when you can slap a Bat logo on damn near anything and make a buck.
Since like 2010ish, Spider-Man, Iron Man and Captain America, with Thor kind of just hanging around outside the door. Hulk doesn't seem to have the same level of star power that he used to.
It's funny because these three have no good comics.
Midwit spotted
Literally all of them do.
You don't even read comics.
Bait used to at least be funny
They hated him because he spoke the truth.
Fool, there’s no such thing as “good comics”!
moron
Replace Hulk and Wolverine with Iron Man and Captain America. There's your modern big three.
Replace Pete with Miles, then you have it.
No one cares about Captain America anymore. He’s carried by other characters and the actor’s looks.
No and even calling them the big 3 was fricking stupid. They we're just 3 most iconic. The DC trinity exist because they were some of the few who didn't get hard or soft rebooted for the silver age. The Marvel "big 3" is like the equivalent of a little kid claiming his favorites are the big 3.
The original big 3 were Superman, Batman and Robin. They were the World's Finest. Robin was replaced with Wonder Woman to get that female representation.
>Robin was replaced with Wonder Woman
This is sad, I never liked Wonder Wonder as a character.
She's probably the acquisition they know how to do well the least. Plastic Man would do major numbers if marketed right, especially post '95 when hipster stuff really started to take off.
I thought the separation was because Superman and Batman were from National while Wonder Woman was from All-American. Even though the two merged to create DC, the different properties still maintained some separation. The All-American characters had their “World’s Finest” as Comic Cavalcade, with Wondy, Green Lantern and the Flash.
outside of the 70's was Hulk ever really that popular though?
The Hulk is iconic even though he doesn't have many influential or memorable properties. He's culturally influential.
There's a solid case for keeping the Hulk there just because he'd been the second most well-known and recognizable Marvel character after Spider-Man, for decades just on the strength and longevity of the 70s show. Regardless of Marvel's failure to make his comics sell, in real world terms Iron Man should be there as the biggest star of the MCU era. You could make an argument for Captain America instead of Hulk because of the MCU, but it's one of them.
Wolverine's finally started to decline with comics fans after decades of overexposure, while with normie audiences he and the X-Men peaked in the 90s and their movies got outperformed by characters comics readers considered Literally Who? Just this week Wolverine lost a popularity contest on Marvel's Instagram to Scarlet Witch. It's over.
"X-Men" isn't a character, it's a group, and Wolverine is the only member of that group with any solo star power. Even the X-Men brand itself has declined due to the comics sucking for more than 20 consecutive years and adaptations just not being as popular and successful as other comics movies.
>Just this week Wolverine lost a popularity contest on Marvel's Instagram to Scarlet Witch.
Instead of pushing Captain Marvel as Marvel's Wonder Woman, they should've used Wanda. People genuinely like her more and they didn't need a massive marketing campaign to do it.
The next round of their tournament puts her up against Spider-Man, so there's no way she's making it any further, but imagine going back in time to any previous decade and trying to tell comics fans that one day Wanda will be more popular than Wolverine.
Deadpool's the only X-Men related character left there, Storm, Jean and Kamala lost to Iron Man, Carol, and Shang Chi.
It's obvious in retrospect that Marvel should have pushed Wanda, but they still don't even seem to understand how badly they dropped the ball there. She didn't fit the expected cookie-cutter "strong female character" mold for a female lead so they thought they could just destroy her and get away with it.
>She didn't fit the expected cookie-cutter "strong female character" mold for a female lead so they thought they could just destroy her and get away with it.
Fricking morons the lot of them. Never hire a bunch of fricking activists to run your shit. They're anti-money.
I can see how you could look at them weaponizing Wanda's motherhood and femininity against her as being the fault of activists, especially with her adversary being a brown lesbian, but this was much more the fault of Feige himself planning to adapt Wanda's worst comic stories all along. Frankly the comics "fans" who kept calling for Disassembled and House of M because they'd heard of them share some of the blame as well, that probably make Disney think people wanted this.
His merch sales are consistently strong. Hulk hands are still being made today.
No it's Captain Marvel, Spider-Man and Iron Man now.
>Captain Marvel
How is a DC hero one of Didney’s big three?
>Captain Marvel
Carolgay sorry but she'll never be relevant
She's the flagship character of Marvel and her last solo series lasted 50 issues.
>She's the flagship character of Marvel
They stopped doing that in 2019, now is back to being spider-man
>she sold 50 issues
That was the standard back in the day, that's not impressive and they did it cuz they got tired of being made fun, captain marvel can't last 12 issues
The troonCU killed Hulk’s popularity and Wolverine’s starpower is waning, he’s starting to equalise with the rest of his team.
The Big 2 of Marvel is Spider-Man and X-Men. There is no third.
Disney took a Texas Chainsaw to Marvel so they'd stop giving publicity to characters Disney didn't have the film rights for. So Spider-Man took a hit, Wolverine became a skirt, and Deadpool turned heel on the Avengers. They haven't recovered since even if the gender swapped legacy heroes were declared a bad idea and scrapped.
No. In fact, if you look at modern comic book sales, there is only a big 2 in all of comics: Spider-Man and Batman. Nothing else matters outside of their franchises.
I can't wait for comics to die.
They won't even if they should. Even if Marvel and DC are running at a loss, they exist to hold IPs for Disney and Warner Brothers Discovery respectively and they'll make their money in the box office and on merchandising. DC has been running at a loss since at least the 1970s but sales don't matter when you can slap a Bat logo on damn near anything and make a buck.
More like there's only a big 1, cuz even batman numbers are bad, Spider-Man is the only one that has good sales in the entire industry
Batman numbers are not bad, he is just diluted a bit because he has 9000000 titles. He has that many titles because he sells.
>He has that many titles because he sells.
He has that many titles cuz he's the only one that "sells" in DC, that's fricking sad
98% of those don’t even sell.
Did Batman fall off a cliff under the Howard the Duck guy? The top selling individual issue of 2023 was a Bat book.
Batman has too many titles, nobody can keep up and buy all of them, so a lot of people are dropping them
It's Spider-Man, Iron Man and Black Panther.
>Hand points one way
>Claws point another
Whoever signed off on that Wolvie should be shamed in the presence of big man and God
always had been, except that short period of time in the 90s when venom, punisher and ghost rider were the spider-man, wolverine and hulk of the 1990s
Since like 2010ish, Spider-Man, Iron Man and Captain America, with Thor kind of just hanging around outside the door. Hulk doesn't seem to have the same level of star power that he used to.