Assuming that WB don't micromanage him to hell and back, could he actually turn the DC on Film division around?
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Assuming that WB don't micromanage him to hell and back, could he actually turn the DC on Film division around?
Yes, and only snydercels will think otherwise.
TSS was a flop and nobody talks about it anymore LOL
Eh TSS was released during the height of pandemic and simultaneously came out on HBO Max, which doomed it although apparently it was popular on the service
other movies were released at the same time and in their respective streaming services, get a better cope.
He could.
But he has to accept and understand that capeshit has become its own "Breakaway Kino." What I mean by that is capeshit has entered the consciousness to such a degree that it can support (successfully) 100% commitment to different genres within capeshit.
Not "a horror movie...with super powers!" or a "whodunnit....with super powers!" but total allegiance to the genre where the artifacts of capeshit (powers, gadgets, etc.) are an afterthought---not the feature.
If he's ambitious his first great undertaking will be to make a movie with a story that everyone wants to see, that everyone can see themselves invested in. Like TITANIC. And he already has the DC property that lends itself to literally star-crossed lovers against a backdrop of high-stakes catastrophe: Adam Strange.
>But he has to accept and understand that capeshit has become its own "Breakaway Kino." What I mean by that is capeshit has entered the consciousness to such a degree that it can support (successfully) 100% commitment to different genres within capeshit.
>Not "a horror movie...with super powers!" or a "whodunnit....with super powers!" but total allegiance to the genre where the artifacts of capeshit (powers, gadgets, etc.) are an afterthought---not the feature
100% this
Swamp Thing looks to be the most exciting
Release the Ayer Cut
His Superman movie is going to be about how everyone can be Superman and diversity is our strength.
No, he is not the one to turn it around. DC is too white and straight when adapted correctly and homosexual Hollywood folk seethe about this.
>A guy famous for horror movies and juvenile humour is going to make an iconic Superman movie
>Assuming that WB don't micromanage him to hell and back
That's not just a crazy assumption, that's wishful thinking to a ridiculous degree. Movie studies don't loosen their grip after a huge bomb like the flash.
To be fair DC Studios and Warner Bros have become seperate divisions, the potential problem isn't interference from the suits but Gunn himself, whose taking a very hands on approach on the DCU with him writing several projects himself then just tasking another director/showrunner to produce it
>whose taking a very hands on approach on the DCU with him writing several projects himself
That in and of itself could be a potential problem. He might be stretched too thin. To do something like that, he needs a braintrust, just as he himself was part of the Feige braintrust while the MCU was doing well. So there we run into the same problem - can we trust the people he picks, and we trust that he won't crack the whip every now and then against his friends.
I suppose the other variable is the audience itself. Has the zeitgeist reached a point where quality does not matter, as the masses collectively realize they're watching comic book movies, and they've never liked comic books? That's always been the danger of putting a real comic book geek in charge. One can become tone-deaf.
I myself enjoyed The Suicide Squad a great deal, but that movie bombed. Maybe people don't care anymore. Maybe the baggage from previous DC movies was too great. But reboot or not, that baggage will remain. Doubly so now that we know it's not a truly clean break.
I liked everything he done, so sure why not, maybe he'll make the movies just their own movies that HAPPEN to be in same universe without having to tie everything into everything, kinda like how his Suicide Squad was to the DCEU.
seems like it with how disconnected the dcu slate is
Kind of but also not really, like the industry reports and rumors indicate that Legacy is going to have a boatload of superheroes in it, including The Authority since the film is supposed to be the main introduction to the DCU.
The impression I get is that, compared to Marvel where the MCU built up its universe, the DCU is going to skip all the setup and be immediately set in a world with established superheroes and the movies/shows will just be adventures or plots starring them, rather than origin stories, ala Spider Man Homecoming.
oh i thougt that legacy would just be superman vs the authority lol nvm then
Yes but WB will micromanage him to hell and back.
>could he actually turn the DC on Film division around?
1. All of his DC movies have failed.
2. Marvel fired him.
3. He fired Cavill.
Didn't he think that the Flash was the best superhero movie of all time?
It's hard to say because while I like his work as a writer-director auteur, we have no idea whether he can manage a team of creatives, be a leader who's willing to correct other people's mistakes and fire them if necessary, and remain objective amid personal ties to so many people. This is a job that requires occasional bouts of ruthlessness and cruelty, and he has already demonstrated a propensity for nepotism towards his friends.
I trust his taste in his own projects, but not outside of them. He shilled The Flash as the best superhero movie since the Dark Knight. At best, I can only grant him cautious skepticism. He is unproven.
woke people can’t make good stuff due to their anti white male agender
100% chance homosexuals are going to gaslight themselves into thinking the movie is good before the movie reviews and box office bomb detonates.
Probably not. Audiences simply won't show up for DC movies even when they're good (unless it's Batman). And WB's marketing has been complete shit for a few years now. I think even Joker 2 might be in trouble.
There's a chance, but they really need to advertise this as a reset, because DC films are pretty much being written off by most people.
Wrong board
He’s a good creative but I don’t know if he’s a good business guy
that's why he has safran handling the business side
Safran is just producing. I’m talking creative business decisions. Is The Authority being made because he thinks it’ll make money or because he loves wild storm comics? Gunn himself admitted that the GA can get confused about multiple characters and yet he’s making Brave and The Bold at the same time as The Batman 2?
he already said the authority was a passion project so the latter probably
He thinks a Green Lantern Earth-based detective show is a good idea. The guy is a talented filmmaker but no, he cannot save the DC trainwreck.
yes, i at the very least i have hope that Superman Legacy will be good and will be able to make people care about cinematic Supes again. He managed to do it with literally who Guardians and made a good Suicide Squad movie after the 2016 shitfest
All his cape movies are about Jerks, Losers and Doofuses, even his Marvel ones.
The DC heroes of old either deserve a modicum of respect or left alone. I am willing to accept that JLU style interpretations can't make teh billions at theaters, but I don't want the characters deformed further for "marketability".
>assuming that the thing which WB always does doesn't happen
DCfans are abused girlfriends with two black eyes at this point.