ToD is literally the most cartoony out of the original trilogy, they even some dumb child sidekick so that kids would want to see it
Never understood why they call it the darkest, Raiders is way darker
>Never understood why they call it the darkest
Probably from the brutal human sacrifices, child slaves, and mind control. Or maybe because the majority of it took place in a dark cave.
Temple is the only one I remember as a kid so it’s my favorite
No I don’t give a shit about if the others were better I do not remember them so they couldn’t have been that great
Wasted ending, they could try redeeming this shit movie by making the end meaningful for indiana by letting him stay there.
Shit characters, the kid was literally just "HAHAHA THIS LITTLE Black person STEALS THINGS HAHA". All action is boring, you NEVER FEAR for ANY of the 3 main characters.
No, it actually redeems Crystal Skull. Just like JJ and Johnson's shit takes on SW redeemed the prequels.
Lucasfilm is done. They can't even make a decent film from their existing franchises, and they haven't even tried to make new ones.
I don't think Disney will sell it, but I could see them shuttering the film and TV division, and just exist to run ILM, Skywalker Sound, THX, and archive and curate the library. They have nothing left on the table, and they burned it all down. It would be cheaper to just function as a holding company for the assets.
Thing is, Crystal Skull still sucks just on every level. Stupid plotline, shitty garbage effects, but at the very least it lets Indy ride off into the sunset after one big crazy adventure and gives him an objectively happy end. 99 percent of the film fricking sucks but at least, at LEAST, you could walk away going "Glad Indy got a good ending!"
This? This has all those problems 2 fold and it doesn't even give him that, IT DOESN'T EVEN GIVE HIM THAT. Obviously the best course of action is "There are only 3 movies" but if you had to pick at least 1, then at the barest of minimum you can end Crystal Skull thinking "That was a shitty movie but at least Indy got to be happy".
No. I barely see anyone talking about this movie, when I went to see GotG 3, people were really surprised by the trailer, I could hear normiesgoing "Indiana Jones? Isn't he like 80?"
Also, frick it, I think Kingdom of the Crystal Skull is fine. Really stupid moments, yeah, but it's frankly nowhere near as bad as people have made it out to be. When I went to see KotCS, it was the only time I've ever been to a theater where it was utterly packed and the audience was enjoying the hell out of the movie.
Disney has burned too much good will from fans due to their disastrous Star Wars movies, Kennedy's awful reputation, the sad old failure angle they're obsessed with, the rampant rumors of reshoots which were more or less confirmed by Ford. It's basically going to do for KotCS what the sequels did for the prequels.
I hate Disney and I hate Kennedy and I hate what they did to star wars even beyond previously not caring about it since I was 10. I liked Crystal Skull, and the rest of the movies despite thinking Temple of Doom is the worst, and I thought Dial of Destiny was good.
I never hated Crystal Skull when it came out and thought it was ok until I came to the internet and it decided for me that I thought it was garbage. But now as an adult I can confidently say it’s definitely not the best thing ever but it’s kino.
Zzzzz, Indy 5 is a way better adventure movie than Indy 4, no contest, Spielberg couldn't care less about Lucas' story and it's evident while this one has some soul and it's all but boring so shut the frick up you snobbish piece of shit
Bad CGI
Bad Casting.
Forgettable villains and support cast.
The drama with indie's family was unnecessary.
Replacing Religion and Mysticism with Ayy Lmaos was pushing it and I think this was around the time History Channel threw their hands in the air and started releasing the first season of Ancient Aliens so the audience felt they were being patronized.
I think audiences used to have standards before capeshit. It was hard to get away with a mediocre movie in the 2000's without people not collectively making fun of you but then studios started to use minorities to shield themselves from criticism and social media made easier to call critics racists and shut down lampoons and overall satire.
>Bad CGI
Was it really worse than any of the earlier 3? >Bad Casting. >Forgettable villains and support cast.
I say no worse than ToD >Ayy Lmaos
OK that's agreeable.
>Was it really worse than any of the earlier 3?
YES. Much, much worse. Why? Because the earlier 3 made the absolute tippity top best, cutting edge special effects that money could buy for THAT time period and they still hold up. Crystal Skull by comparison had inferior effects for ITS time period and they did not impress then and do not hold up now. That's why you can watch ToD, Raiders or Crusade with respect and CS gets no respect. The color grading is piss yellow with a shitty bloom effect on everything and literally everything looks to be filmed on a sound stage, whereas the earlier films, they actually look like they're in a real place, doing real things.
Eh, I personally thought Spalko was the strongest of the IJ villains. Belloq and Donovan were kinda forgettable (and weirdly similar) and Mola Ram didn't get enough screen time to develop much of a personality. And aside from Shia, I don't think the casting was bad in the slightest.
It's definitely better. I also think it is the best movie currently in theathers.
It's a shame cause lot of people will not watch it. they are totally missing out. Only cause Harrison is old and the israeli british actress is in it.
But the israelitees did not bother me at all, she was not destroying Indiana's legacy. And Indie was respected at the end.
>in the end, it turns out Indy was respected!
Lmfao how is that a selling point that should be fricking sub par why wouldn’t the titular action hero be respected….? Because israelites made the movie??
>I also think it is the best movie currently in theathers.
Yeah if you don't count Past Lives, Guardians 3, Asteroid City, The Flash, The Little Mermaid, Elemental, Transformers Rise of the Beasts, No Hard Feelings, About My Father, Ruby Gilman Teenage Kraken, or Spiderverse. If you took all of those movies out of theaters, Dial of Destiny is probably at least somewhere in the top 10ish movies currently out.
>But the israelitees did not bother me at all, she was not destroying Indiana's legacy. And Indie was respected at the end.
After they reshoots, maybe. You will never convince me that first leak wasn't real with how things are
young indy sacrifices himself to save helena and erases indy altogether, the film ends with a montage of helena doing everything he did in the trilogy and then "helena will return" is the last thing after the credits
once the leaks of the test screening shot out they went overtime into damage control and james mangold mentally broke down on twitter
disney is still going to be ruined by every film they're releasing going straigh to the shitter lol
i don't care how much a film grosses, i just want a good film. they fricked star wars and are now eating it. indy might be legitimately good for all i know. what i know is the film is tanking and will not recoup its costs, and deservedly so.
I like Crystal Skull. And I also like the new movie.
Let the haters hate, who cares if the movie flops?
It is the final Indiana Jones movie anyway, so it's not like I am sad it is flopping, I could care less, cause I went and watched it and had a great time.
I don't understand why people even care about box-office numbers on this movie. It's not like Harrison would make one more if this was a success. The franchise is over. I saw the movie yesterday and I thought it was great. The part where they entered the roman empire was hype as frick. Probably the most exciting final scene I have seen in the theather since a long time.
So it's gonna be a box office failure? Fine, who cares, just go watch the movie and have fun.
it's really strange how younggays seem to not be able to grasp this simple concept
When you are young is easily the time you should be open to acceptance of things regardless of what homosexuals say about it
>don't understand why people even care about box-office numbers on this movie. It's not like Harrison would make one more if this was a success
He absolutely would, he loves the character and it ends with him being like "I'm back in action" and grabbing his fedora. If this made bank they'd have another last adventure ever out within 2 years. If it was modestly successful they'd probably shit out a spinoff starring Fleabag.
I hope it continues to bomb so that Disnry never touches Indiana Jones ever again, the same way I hope all their Star Wars projects fail so they can just stop beating a dead horse and give up already.
if they did an indy 6 it would have to be ford in the connery position and mutt/short round doing the legwork. it could be kino and i'd be down for it but not until after kennedy is gone.
the woman in the movie was painted as a bad person the entire way through, which is good, because her character was factually bad. There was no wokeshit feminism in this movie.
>better than Crystal Skull
I dunno man, Crystal Skull had some cold war comfy vibes
I also remember I was scared shitless when I watched it for the first time as a kid when the aliens mind raped the dominatrix girl
Look at the shills, typing away in desperation
Yet despite their best efforts this will FLOP
And Cinemaphile will have a field day meme'ing the aftemath
can someone please explain to me the hate campaign towards this movie?
It makes no sense to me.
I understand the situation about Flash, cause Ezra and DC bullshittery.
But this movie has nothing going on.
Why the hate? I watched it and it's just a simple fun adventure movie. It was not even feminist or anything and the only Black person that was in the movie gets shot and killed and was also semi-evil. So what is seriously going on here?
Is it just because of Kathleen? Cuase I barely see her influence in this movie. Indie does not get fricked in the ass like Luke. In fact he gets really respected in this movie and it was a perfect ending to the franchise.
You act confused and then state the problem in your last line >b-but she really controlled herself this time I swear
When she's gone we can talk about new IJ films
It was a shitty movie.
It was like watching Gene Kelly on crutches. No one wants to watch a washed up Indiana Jones. They had him looking despondent and worn out throughout the movie and a total girl boss that saved the day non-stop. She constantly shut down Indiana at every opportunity, even putting his life at risk by locking him in with literal Nazis and running away like a coward.
This movie is trash. It hits every single feminist thing they could do to it. Plus, the new black character was trash, too. Lifeless character with zero charisma. If they’re going to go with something that stupid, go with JB Smoove or Hannibal Burress, at least they would have been funny.
>a total girl boss that saved the day non-stop
What's the issue? It's inspiring > She constantly shut down Indiana at every opportunity, even putting his life at risk by locking him in with literal Nazis and running away like a coward.
This was hilarious tho?
It was a poorly written female character that had zero flaws. It was a Mary Sue self-insert.
The movie is called Indiana Jones. We don’t watch it to see some character swoop in and dunk on the protagonist the whole time.
It’s the same mistake Marvel keeps doing in its properties. >Moon Knight: female character rescues the MC over and over, proved to be more competent. >Thor: Love and Thunder >Star Wars >She-Hulk: keep showing she’s stronger, angrier, and better than Hulk in every way. They even have a throwing contest and they have her brag about how how much better she is. >Ant-Man and Wasp
It’s like they don’t know how to write female characters without tearing down male characters. They have to show men as bumbling fools that have to be rescued.
Isn’t that the same thing they’re trying to correct? They don’t want to write females as damsels in distress so they turn around and write female characters as females-in-name-only and make the men the damsels in distress. It’s a woke overcorrect.
>It was a poorly written female character that had zero flaws.
That is false my friend.
>Constnantly gets in trouble >gets Antonio Banderas killed >gets Indie in trouble >can't run away, always needs Indie to help her get away from the bad guys
what are you fricking talking about?
You are all mentally ill. the movie was fun and alright.
>It was a poorly written female character that had zero flaws.
She was full of flaws you stupid fricking Black person and she got Indies best friend killed because of her stupidity. (the scuba diver)
You are all insufferable homosexuals.
She faces no consequences for any of this. She's a liability. Willie was a better sidekick.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>She faces no consequences for any of this.
The government, her ex-lover, and mobsters
are literally after her in the movie. what are you talking about?
11 months ago
Anonymous
That's just part of the adventure. In the end she's fine and she doesn't learn anything.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>In the end she's fine and she doesn't learn anything.
Not true
I can not believe I have to explain this to you but here is the things she learned at the end. >that life is not just about making money >family is more important
11 months ago
Anonymous
Those are lessons more appropriate to a main character, not a supporting character. If they wanted her for that role they should have made an original story just for her.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Those are lessons more appropriate to a main character, not a supporting character.
Are you a screenwriter or something? cause you are a really bad one.
There are no fricking rules for who learns what.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I feel as though during finalizing this script they considered it as a backdoor pilot for a spin-off, but even they realized that they couldn’t pull it off.
How do you make this very ugly woman with zero charisma the star of an action franchise? They could shoehorn her in this trash heap, but expecting her to carry a franchise by herself? Even Disney wasn’t that deluded.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Why do you people assume she was supposed to become the face of the franchise after Indie?
I have seen the movie and there is no indication she will continue Indie's footsteps.
There is no post credits scene where she takes his hat or anything. In the end she just walks away casually.
you are all fricking idiots.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>There is no post credits scene where she takes his hat or anything. In the end she just walks away casually. >you are all fricking idiots.
THAT’S BECAUASE THEY RESHOT IT AT THE LAST MINUTE YOU moron. THERES LITERALLY PICS OF FLEABAG IN THE HAT RUNNING FROM THE BOULDER.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>THERES LITERALLY PICS OF FLEABAG IN THE HAT RUNNING FROM THE BOULDER
Holy frick I have to see this
Does she do the desert chase as well
>It was a poorly written female character that had zero flaws.
She was full of flaws you stupid fricking Black person and she got Indies best friend killed because of her stupidity. (the scuba diver)
You are all insufferable homosexuals.
Saw it opening day. Then again today. Probably will go see it again tomorrow. I think it gets better with rewatches, definitely the first 20 minutes is one of the finest Indiana Jones moments we've had in the last 40 years. It's a really fun movie and Phoebe Waller Bridge isn't hard on the eyes either.
To follow up, turns out I was able to get a showing in about 15 minutes, it's almost impossible to get a ticket on this Fourth of July weekend. You guys better hurry up and you'll end up watching Netflix.
>shills failed to bs people that this was anything other than a shitshow so now they’ve switched tactics to trashing crystal skull to make this look better
I hope all of you gays end up homeless on the street and shanked by a drug addict. It’s what you deserve for repeatedly making this board unusable.
can someone please explain to me the hate campaign towards this movie?
It makes no sense to me.
I understand the situation about Flash, cause Ezra and DC bullshittery.
But this movie has nothing going on.
Why the hate? I watched it and it's just a simple fun adventure movie. It was not even feminist or anything and the only Black person that was in the movie gets shot and killed and was also semi-evil. So what is seriously going on here?
Is it just because of Kathleen? Cuase I barely see her influence in this movie. Indie does not get fricked in the ass like Luke. In fact he gets really respected in this movie and it was a perfect ending to the franchise.
The lengths you have to go though to make the lead not kill himself is movie breaking. Like that scene that would normally be a long waterslide fall but it's just him sliding like 2 feet into some water puddle lmao.
What did Indy say to Archimedes? My version had some weird symbols as subs.
I assume something along the lines of I'm your biggest fan and rolemodel or something?
>can someone please explain to me the hate campaign towards this movie?
It makes no sense to me.
I understand the situation about Flash, cause Ezra and DC bullshittery.
But this movie has nothing going on.
Why the hate? I watched it and it's just a simple fun adventure movie. It was not even feminist or anything and the only Black person that was in the movie gets shot and killed and was also semi-evil. So what is seriously going on here?
Is it just because of Kathleen? Cuase I barely see her influence in this movie. Indie does not get fricked in the ass like Luke. In fact he gets really respected in this movie and it was a perfect ending to the franchise.
>I watched it and it's just a simple fun adventure movie
It was. All those nerdrotics and critical drinkers are usually spot-on and I really enjoy them, even doomwiener, but this time they were simply wrong. Dial is pretty gud, or am I out of touch?
>I hate Rey with a passion.
She was hardly the worst thing about those movies. If you improved her it wouldn't save those movies. The manner of inclusion of the old characters was arguably worse.
Sounds like you're just trying to fit in which is a characteristic of stupid people.
can someone please explain to me the hate campaign towards this movie?
It makes no sense to me.
I understand the situation about Flash, cause Ezra and DC bullshittery.
But this movie has nothing going on.
Why the hate? I watched it and it's just a simple fun adventure movie. It was not even feminist or anything and the only Black person that was in the movie gets shot and killed and was also semi-evil. So what is seriously going on here?
Is it just because of Kathleen? Cuase I barely see her influence in this movie. Indie does not get fricked in the ass like Luke. In fact he gets really respected in this movie and it was a perfect ending to the franchise.
>Indie does not get fricked in the ass like Luke.
his son's dead, he and his ex-wife are too old to have more kids, thus the Jones bloodline is extinguished. Kennedy did the same thing to the Solos and the Skywalkers. Respected my ass
They should have left it unclear what Mads is trying to achieve, and let Indy assume the worst.
Then in the final act Mads leaps through the portal, Indy in pursuit, only to find themselves at Dealy Plaza on November 23 1963.
Only then is it made clear that he was all along trying to prevent Kennedy's assassination, thereby ensuring the Space Program isn't cancelled. Because all Werner von Braun actually cares about is getting mankind to Mars.
With Kennedy saved, there never is a Vietnam war and Mutt is still alive, giving Indy a happy ending, and also continuing the theme of the movies that all he had to do is nothing and the outcome would have been the same.
>Because all Werner von Braun actually cares about is getting mankind to Mars. >a hostile irradiated planet with 1/8th G where you must live underground and pray for continued food/water shipments from Earth because terraforming isn't even remotely plausible
Yes well he didn't know that. He thought it was pretty good, and mercifully died before we found out what a shithole it is.
You could have Mars be a nice place in the Indy timeline.
>1/8th G
False, it's about one half G > you must live underground
Only browns fear a little radiation >food/water shipments from Earth
Growing your own crops in a frozen tundra is child's play for a white man > terraforming isn't even remotely plausible
Good. If you made the place Earth-like you'd be flooded with browns before you know it
How the turns have tabled. >89% audience score on RT >68% critics
I never thought Cinemaphile users would become as moronic as critics one day.
I loved the new movie, saw it yesterday. Don't even care that it's flopping since its the last Indiana movie and it was a great end to the franchise. Continue seething you idiots.
I disliked the whole segment in Peru in Crystal Skull but the rest was ok. The final act was very on par with the rest of Indy movies, including running away from the natives and the spectacular ending with the UFO flying from the temple... that still is awesome and is pure unnecesary but delicious eye candy.
>68% critics in RT
I guess it doesn't have enought black lesbians.
The point of old Indiana Jones movies, same with old James Bond movies is to see a guy you wish you were travel around and get into adventures at exotic locations.
James Bond they managed to keep updating with new actors so it always felt contemporary. They also still shoot at exotic locations.
But Indy can only be one actor and that actor is old so the entire "I wish I was him" dissipates. You don't want to be him anymore because he's old.
And the "exotic locations" are now just cgi backdrops so there's no sense that anyone was actually at these locations (even if they shoot in some other country most of the actual close-up stuff is greenscreen).
Either way the illusion is gone and you're just watching some old geezer get sassed by the "current day" sidekicks.
>But Indy can only be one actor
Why
Where did this absurd reification trend start
Just recast it
It used to be unthinkable to recast the start trek actors but they've done that a bunch of times now
Granted the shows were all shit but that's not the point
Is this like the new thing were we have to pretend to like the Prequels in order to be accepted as Le Based?
Crystal Skull is a stupid movie, this is worse.
Shia LaDouche helped kill this franchise. If he wasn’t crazy, they wouldn’t have had to write him out of the story. He got the role from Spielberg anyway. Worst decision ever.
Imagine if they had cast a relevant, still successful up-and-coming actor. They’d potentially still have a franchise to keep going.
But they had to kill Indy’s son off-screen and the franchise is now dead.
I think there was still potential stories to be told in that world. But they allowed Tomb Raider and Pirates of the Caribbean to pick away at the bones.
Disney has confirmed this is the last movie in the franchise.
>It was a poorly written female character that had zero flaws. It was a Mary Sue self-insert.
She was an idiot in the movie and constantly got everyone in trouble and people died because of her stupidity.
>The movie is called Indiana Jones. We don’t watch it to see some character swoop in and dunk on the protagonist the whole time.
Except every side-character always dunks on Indie and gets him in trouble in every movie.
>It’s the same mistake Marvel keeps doing in its properties.
Indiana Jones is not a marvel character.
Was this written by an A.I BOT?
wtf? the hate for this movie does not feel genuine.
Indiana Jones is owned by Disney. Marvel is owned by Disney. Star Wars is owned by Disney.
It’s all the same parent company, so why are you splitting hairs?
Indiana Jones, in the past, had interference from other characters on the level of Jar Jar Binks messing with the plot. In this movie, it was essentially a humiliation ritual. Far too much nonsense.
This is one of the worst written female characters I’ve seen from woke Hollywood. Irredeemable.
>it was essentially a humiliation ritual.
but it wasn't.
In the end Indie literally got his biggest dream fullfilled and saw real life Roman Empire and Archimedes and started to cry out of joy.
They honored the character.
Also he was constantly saving the day in the movie when the dumb female character got in trouble.
Indiana Jones’ biggest dream was to know that his father loved him more than his work. Which he realized when his dad called him by his chosen name and told him to let it go. That was the end of the series. It should have been anyways.
>saw real life Roman Empire and Archimedes and started to cry out of joy. >They honored the character.
With scif-fi bullshit?
Indiana Jones’ biggest dream was to know that his father loved him more than his work. Which he realized when his dad called him by his chosen name and told him to let it go. That was the end of the series. It should have been anyways.
>With scif-fi bullshit?
Newsflash motherfricker
Indiana Jones was never a "realistic movie".
In the first film everyones face literally gets melted by opening a chest.
This.
She wasn’t even a sidekick.
It would be like if a woman showed up to the cave and rescued Tony Stark, after showing him how to finish the arc reactor, created his Iron Man Suit, rescued him from Obadiah Stane, and declared, “We are Iron Man.” Several movies later, she swoops in, steals the gauntlet from Tony and snaps her fingers to sacrifice herself, except she manages to use the gauntlet even better than Tony to reverse the damage done to her body and now she’s the new Iron Woman who will lead Marvel going forward.
This is the level of audacity we’re dealing with in the new Indiana Jones movie.
"Know her place" wtf does that mean? Sounds like /misc/-tier cope.
Just admit it, you expected this movie to be bad. In fact it turns out to be good, surprising no one. So you resort to inventing deranged accusations to try to salvage your world view.
Touch grass.
>Fleabag doesn't know her place.
????
what you mean she should have been in the Kitchen making Sandwich for Indie?
But that would be a really boring movie my friend.
One day and it's already made 24m. With a 5 day weekend this is a easy 150m. From there this can coast with good legs to at LEAST second all time. This pretty much guarantees a Helena spinoff.
This is not true I had a hard time getting a good seat it was so packed. Maybe if you want to sit in the front row you might find a seat but I'm sure you won't be able to find a good seat in any moderate sized city tonight
The original three movies were about religious artifacts.
The crystal skull was about aliens and dial of destiny is about time travel.
Should have stuck to the religious and supernatural.
it was never about religion, it was about mythology. lucas' rule for writing the films was to use artifacts from mythology, because it had more of a realistic sense to them. there's zero mythology for time travel, hence it was the one thing lucas did not want in an indy film, and they went and fricking used it.
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the film needs to make 800 million to break even. it's not gonna make anywhere near half of that. they were predicting a 65 million opening weekend and right now the film isn't tracking at all overseas, and is barely scraping by what they thought opening night would do.
but the mythology of the crystal skull goes back decades. yeah it's not as old as hindu or christian symbols but it still came from an older world. lucas threw his own spin on it since ford was 20 years older and promptly aged indy up to the 50s, which was primetime for sci-fi films.
I neverget why people complaining about cinema pricing. Yes, it goes up like everything else. Reality is that it is still the cheapest form of entertainment. Try opera, ballet, theatre, concert, sports game, amusement park and see how much your wallet shrinks. I don't think we should be so harsh on Disney. Let's make sure the artists (camera men, makeup, graphic FX) get what they deserve
hater spotting time >good pussy >constantly points at users that say israelite and Black person >keeps saying the movie is feminist even if the female character constantly gets everyone in big trouble for doing dumb shit and gets saved by indie all the time
>Keep clinging onto this artificial talking point like a life preserver.
I don't understand what you mean because that was my own opinion. Oh wait, I forgot, you didn't watch the movie. How would you know. right? Cause you only follow moronic anons opinions that also have not seen the movie, like a sheep. Sheep Sheep Sheep Sheep. Baaaaaah Baaaaah Baaah
eat grass sheep.
I watched the movie just now.
Kinda baffled by all the hate cause it is just a generic action adventure, no controversy or anything political. Had a good time with my dad, 7/10 average popcorn flick. haven't seen any Indiana Jones films before. Madds was sexy (I am not gay)
If you know your history, you definitely can appreciate the film a lot better. I feel like lots of people that watched this that hated it only seen "le avengers" and have to base it on capeshit or are pure brainlets
>mousecuck >r*ddit spacing >’to be fair you have to have a very high iq to get dilator of disastor’
I can’t imagine how grim your gay ass life must be. I would have a shotgun in my mouth immediately.
and what history is that? time travel wasn't invented until jules verne thought it up for a book.
unlike every other indiana jones story (and when i say every other i mean every other, all the books/games/comics, even the fricking tv show) time travel has NO historical/mythical basis, which was lucas' one rule when writing an indy story. using existing mythology grounded the story. time travel is pure nonsense.
>time travel wasn't invented until jules verne thought it up for a book.
Heh, nice try idiot, but it was actually H. G. Wells.
Your opinion is invalid.
and? they're in the roman empire for all of five minutes to demonstrate the ability of the dial. it's entirely irrelevant and a post made by a moron/esl
11 months ago
Anonymous
cope. Romans took over your land and seethe
11 months ago
Anonymous
romans can't take over my lands if i'm roman already, moron.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>if I am Roman
Where are you from?
11 months ago
Anonymous
i come from the land of the ice and snow
from the midnight sun where the hot springs glow
nah just your standard burger poster, but my ancestry is bri'ish, frog, vikang and roman.
>Ive seen people give the film 2/10.
I mean it's not undeserved.
At absolut best if you truly loved the roman scene and it's dark and you squint just enough maybe a 4/10.
The movie is fricking boring, long, has annoying unlikeable main characters and consists of at least 90% CGI which looks terrible.
That seems ok? Just needs to keep that up for another ten weeks and it'll break even including marketing. I'm guessing most people will want to rewatch it five or six times
>Just needs to keep that up for another ten weeks and it'll break even including marketing
anon if it's opening weekend is not even 1/3 of the production budget, it won't make more the second weekend. you're gonna see a drop of roughly 70% mark my fricking words. this shit will bomb harder than solo.
>But Indy can only be one actor
What about young Indiana Jones from the beginning of Last Crusade?
river phoenix died years ago moron
>But Indy can only be one actor
Why
Where did this absurd reification trend start
Just recast it
It used to be unthinkable to recast the start trek actors but they've done that a bunch of times now
Granted the shows were all shit but that's not the point
the problem is you can't recast indy and keep going, it has to be a full reboot. star trek has only had 1 reboot in its 55 years of existence, despite several actors having played kirk.
There's no young talent or charisma in Hollywood. Just Nepobabies these days.
11 months ago
Anonymous
and i care about someone else taking up the mantle because most of the younger generation is fricking dog shit
i enjoy chris pratt but never in a million years would i want him to wear the hat
What if you somehow got propelled into the past due to some mishap and had to make an Indy movie in Old Hollywood in order to return home
I'm voting for Gregory Peck
11 months ago
Anonymous
Spencer Tracy
11 months ago
Anonymous
Oh good choice
Cast Katherine Hepburn as the love interest for extra off-screen chemistry. Yes she's not the prettiest dame but she can act.
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lucas said treasure of the sierra madres was one of the inspirations, so bogart i guess
Just came back from seeing it. It was the most "fine" movie I've seen in a while. It's a very boring movie visually and the sound design was really weak. Also John Williams probably fell asleep while writing the score, there's barely any music in the fricking thing. They really should have called it quits after Crystal Skull.
idk man that actually seemed like a legit review since he's the first one to post about the score. ironically i thought his scores for the sequels felt more like indy scores, now this anon says he just wrote shit lol.
Fell asleep to this shit earlier today. The only decent scene was when that annoying afroc**t got shot. Wish the little Mexican pilot got murdered as well but they needed him to fly back in time or some shit I dunno what was going on
whats hilarious is most of the leak at least the first two acts were spot on with the exception of who was Helenas father and that Voller was Toth, both easily changed for the current version
It was just a bland safe sequel that didn't really do anything exciting and had the same feel of "theme park ride" as Crystal Skull because there was zero tension.
terrible movie, absolutely terrible. i wish i hadn't paid to see it. some homosexual on here tricked me saying the woman didn't overshadow indy but she seriously single handedly ruined this movie
>Octogenarian Boomer >Middle Aged School Marm >zero chemistry
Shia was amusing at least, this ... it doesn't do anything for any demographic it's hypothetically marketing to aside cat lady academics and a few Silent Generation men that could plausible self-insert as the protagonist. If they aren't money laundering with these shitters then they're irredeemably stupid.
Dumped in the crystal skulls mouth. Good way to hopefully end the series and move on to either an animated series or a new young indiana jones franchise.
Crystal skull is indeed garbage but this movie is also garbage. It ruined indy and there are a lot of shills on here trying to fix the opening weekend gross of this movie because the word of mouth is so terrible. Do yourself and future cinema a favor and don't pay to see this movie. Do not reward mean spirited writing from these studios!
Wasnt mean spirited. You didn't see it so how would you know. Woman was a villian/anti hero for more then half the film. You have been lied to by so many people. You actually trust youtubers and all the other media trying to shit on a film that not even they have seen yet? Cmon man
Did not ruin Indy. He never bows to any woman shit and he gets an ending that no one expected. His character growth and the shit he deals with in this movie is not even close to what you have been told.
Shills sent in reinforcements. Do NOT be gaslit. It WAS mean spirited and it did ruin Indy
Did not ruin Indy. He never bows to any woman shit and he gets an ending that no one expected. His character growth and the shit he deals with in this movie is not even close to what you have been told.
only good film is temple of doom
>inb4 mad boomers
the rest are kiddie shit, ToD has blood and violence shits kino fr
ToD is literally the most cartoony out of the original trilogy, they even some dumb child sidekick so that kids would want to see it
Never understood why they call it the darkest, Raiders is way darker
>Never understood why they call it the darkest
Probably from the brutal human sacrifices, child slaves, and mind control. Or maybe because the majority of it took place in a dark cave.
>the rest are kiddie shit,
Okey-Dokey anon, hold onto your potatoes!
>only good film is temple of doom
Temple is the only one I remember as a kid so it’s my favorite
No I don’t give a shit about if the others were better I do not remember them so they couldn’t have been that great
When you see a cult leader rip the beating heart of Indiana Jones out of his chest as a kid, you tend to remember it. Excellent film.
Yes. It was okay.
>at least dog shit tastes better than cat shit, right?
Wasted ending, they could try redeeming this shit movie by making the end meaningful for indiana by letting him stay there.
Shit characters, the kid was literally just "HAHAHA THIS LITTLE Black person STEALS THINGS HAHA". All action is boring, you NEVER FEAR for ANY of the 3 main characters.
No, it actually redeems Crystal Skull. Just like JJ and Johnson's shit takes on SW redeemed the prequels.
Lucasfilm is done. They can't even make a decent film from their existing franchises, and they haven't even tried to make new ones.
I don't think Disney will sell it, but I could see them shuttering the film and TV division, and just exist to run ILM, Skywalker Sound, THX, and archive and curate the library. They have nothing left on the table, and they burned it all down. It would be cheaper to just function as a holding company for the assets.
I don't think it's out of the question for them to just sell it back to Lucas, Disney did sell Power Rangers back to Saban, after all.
I think the thing is Star Wars is too big for them to really cancel, but they have shown that, movie-wise at least, they just don't really get it.
Lucas can barely walk by himself, he wont buy anything
Thing is, Crystal Skull still sucks just on every level. Stupid plotline, shitty garbage effects, but at the very least it lets Indy ride off into the sunset after one big crazy adventure and gives him an objectively happy end. 99 percent of the film fricking sucks but at least, at LEAST, you could walk away going "Glad Indy got a good ending!"
This? This has all those problems 2 fold and it doesn't even give him that, IT DOESN'T EVEN GIVE HIM THAT. Obviously the best course of action is "There are only 3 movies" but if you had to pick at least 1, then at the barest of minimum you can end Crystal Skull thinking "That was a shitty movie but at least Indy got to be happy".
Prequels are still shit
crystal skull is still shit, just like the prequels
frick off prequeltard
The prequels are good
You used to like the prequels until Mike Stoklasa brainwashed you.
Search your feelings, you know it to be true.
Dunno I haven't seen it
No. I barely see anyone talking about this movie, when I went to see GotG 3, people were really surprised by the trailer, I could hear normiesgoing "Indiana Jones? Isn't he like 80?"
Also, frick it, I think Kingdom of the Crystal Skull is fine. Really stupid moments, yeah, but it's frankly nowhere near as bad as people have made it out to be. When I went to see KotCS, it was the only time I've ever been to a theater where it was utterly packed and the audience was enjoying the hell out of the movie.
Disney has burned too much good will from fans due to their disastrous Star Wars movies, Kennedy's awful reputation, the sad old failure angle they're obsessed with, the rampant rumors of reshoots which were more or less confirmed by Ford. It's basically going to do for KotCS what the sequels did for the prequels.
I hate Disney and I hate Kennedy and I hate what they did to star wars even beyond previously not caring about it since I was 10. I liked Crystal Skull, and the rest of the movies despite thinking Temple of Doom is the worst, and I thought Dial of Destiny was good.
kathleen kennedy is out after indy 5
TWO MORE WEEKS
She won't quit until Lucas and Spielberg die, she won't give them the satisfaction
for sho’ doomcuck
I never hated Crystal Skull when it came out and thought it was ok until I came to the internet and it decided for me that I thought it was garbage. But now as an adult I can confidently say it’s definitely not the best thing ever but it’s kino.
Crystal Skull was dog shit in regards to being an followup to the last crusade. I didn't mind it for being bad movie and can enjoy some bad movies.
Indy 5 is a fricking insult and ruins the character.
Zzzzz, Indy 5 is a way better adventure movie than Indy 4, no contest, Spielberg couldn't care less about Lucas' story and it's evident while this one has some soul and it's all but boring so shut the frick up you snobbish piece of shit
It was. I enjoyed it a lot, especially the final roman scene.
Was Crystal Skull that bad? I'd rate it between 1 and 2.
It was bad.
Bad CGI
Bad Casting.
Forgettable villains and support cast.
The drama with indie's family was unnecessary.
Replacing Religion and Mysticism with Ayy Lmaos was pushing it and I think this was around the time History Channel threw their hands in the air and started releasing the first season of Ancient Aliens so the audience felt they were being patronized.
I think audiences used to have standards before capeshit. It was hard to get away with a mediocre movie in the 2000's without people not collectively making fun of you but then studios started to use minorities to shield themselves from criticism and social media made easier to call critics racists and shut down lampoons and overall satire.
>Bad CGI
Was it really worse than any of the earlier 3?
>Bad Casting.
>Forgettable villains and support cast.
I say no worse than ToD
>Ayy Lmaos
OK that's agreeable.
>Was it really worse than any of the earlier 3?
YES. Much, much worse. Why? Because the earlier 3 made the absolute tippity top best, cutting edge special effects that money could buy for THAT time period and they still hold up. Crystal Skull by comparison had inferior effects for ITS time period and they did not impress then and do not hold up now. That's why you can watch ToD, Raiders or Crusade with respect and CS gets no respect. The color grading is piss yellow with a shitty bloom effect on everything and literally everything looks to be filmed on a sound stage, whereas the earlier films, they actually look like they're in a real place, doing real things.
The CGI was bad even for It's time and mostly unnecessary.
>the monkies
>the ants
>the alien design
i just watched crystal skull today
the cgi isn't bad at all you lying israeliteess
The ants were cool, they should have used the monkey cgi budget to make them better.
Eh, I personally thought Spalko was the strongest of the IJ villains. Belloq and Donovan were kinda forgettable (and weirdly similar) and Mola Ram didn't get enough screen time to develop much of a personality. And aside from Shia, I don't think the casting was bad in the slightest.
It's definitely better. I also think it is the best movie currently in theathers.
It's a shame cause lot of people will not watch it. they are totally missing out. Only cause Harrison is old and the israeli british actress is in it.
But the israelitees did not bother me at all, she was not destroying Indiana's legacy. And Indie was respected at the end.
10 rupees have been transferred good bloody sir
>in the end, it turns out Indy was respected!
Lmfao how is that a selling point that should be fricking sub par why wouldn’t the titular action hero be respected….? Because israelites made the movie??
>I also think it is the best movie currently in theathers.
Yeah if you don't count Past Lives, Guardians 3, Asteroid City, The Flash, The Little Mermaid, Elemental, Transformers Rise of the Beasts, No Hard Feelings, About My Father, Ruby Gilman Teenage Kraken, or Spiderverse. If you took all of those movies out of theaters, Dial of Destiny is probably at least somewhere in the top 10ish movies currently out.
>But the israelitees did not bother me at all, she was not destroying Indiana's legacy. And Indie was respected at the end.
After they reshoots, maybe. You will never convince me that first leak wasn't real with how things are
What was the first leak?
young indy sacrifices himself to save helena and erases indy altogether, the film ends with a montage of helena doing everything he did in the trilogy and then "helena will return" is the last thing after the credits
once the leaks of the test screening shot out they went overtime into damage control and james mangold mentally broke down on twitter
I would have preferred this. Everyone would be mad and it would ruin Disney forever.
Everyone is mad anyway. This shit is already a flop
disney is still going to be ruined by every film they're releasing going straigh to the shitter lol
i don't care how much a film grosses, i just want a good film. they fricked star wars and are now eating it. indy might be legitimately good for all i know. what i know is the film is tanking and will not recoup its costs, and deservedly so.
I feel the same way, the director wouldn't have panic'd and seethed for nothing if that weren't the case
You shill Black folk need to figure out subtlety. Or kys. Whichever.
>they are totally missing out
you are missing out on being a human being, you fricking shill rat.
>they are totally missing out
I'll see it when the torrent drops, I'm sure I'm not missing out on anything
cams out already
I don't watch cams, I'm not a barbarian
Empty Skull was terrible and I will not be giving shekels to Kathleen Kennedy's Lucasfilm
I like Crystal Skull. And I also like the new movie.
Let the haters hate, who cares if the movie flops?
It is the final Indiana Jones movie anyway, so it's not like I am sad it is flopping, I could care less, cause I went and watched it and had a great time.
But you didn't finish it. You and your bf were kicked out for sucking each other's wieners
wrong. I saw it with my girlfriend. Sorry but I the gay couple you saw was your dad and your cousin.
Dressing him up as a girl doesn't make your bf a girl anon but I'm glad you had a nice time
Homosexual COPE, how big is you "girlfriends" dick?
No, not at all
I don't understand why people even care about box-office numbers on this movie. It's not like Harrison would make one more if this was a success. The franchise is over. I saw the movie yesterday and I thought it was great. The part where they entered the roman empire was hype as frick. Probably the most exciting final scene I have seen in the theather since a long time.
So it's gonna be a box office failure? Fine, who cares, just go watch the movie and have fun.
it's really strange how younggays seem to not be able to grasp this simple concept
When you are young is easily the time you should be open to acceptance of things regardless of what homosexuals say about it
>don't understand why people even care about box-office numbers on this movie. It's not like Harrison would make one more if this was a success
He absolutely would, he loves the character and it ends with him being like "I'm back in action" and grabbing his fedora. If this made bank they'd have another last adventure ever out within 2 years. If it was modestly successful they'd probably shit out a spinoff starring Fleabag.
I hope it continues to bomb so that Disnry never touches Indiana Jones ever again, the same way I hope all their Star Wars projects fail so they can just stop beating a dead horse and give up already.
if they did an indy 6 it would have to be ford in the connery position and mutt/short round doing the legwork. it could be kino and i'd be down for it but not until after kennedy is gone.
Kaffeine Kennedy let it slip in some interview or another that Waller b***h would/could take over
definitely. It was better than any movie that's in theathers right now. Not joking.
lmao you stupid Black folk are so transparent
>no one can ever like anything without being paid to claim they like it
Try harder yidsney shill, your movie is hemorrhaging money. DO SOMETHING FAST LMAO
No it wasn’t you stupid fricking yidsney shill. Try harder next thread.
no shia no watch
the only thing that matters is men are dumb and women are heroic.
the woman in the movie was painted as a bad person the entire way through, which is good, because her character was factually bad. There was no wokeshit feminism in this movie.
Get a load of this Disney shill, typing away while wearing his mickey ears
It's true though. The villain is funny too since he wants the mcguffin to go back in time and usurp Hitler because he blames him for losing the war.
>better than Crystal Skull
I dunno man, Crystal Skull had some cold war comfy vibes
I also remember I was scared shitless when I watched it for the first time as a kid when the aliens mind raped the dominatrix girl
Look at the shills, typing away in desperation
Yet despite their best efforts this will FLOP
And Cinemaphile will have a field day meme'ing the aftemath
Temple of Doom > Crystal Skull > Raiders > Crusade >>>>>>> this israelitesney shit
can someone please explain to me the hate campaign towards this movie?
It makes no sense to me.
I understand the situation about Flash, cause Ezra and DC bullshittery.
But this movie has nothing going on.
Why the hate? I watched it and it's just a simple fun adventure movie. It was not even feminist or anything and the only Black person that was in the movie gets shot and killed and was also semi-evil. So what is seriously going on here?
Is it just because of Kathleen? Cuase I barely see her influence in this movie. Indie does not get fricked in the ass like Luke. In fact he gets really respected in this movie and it was a perfect ending to the franchise.
>hate campaign towards this movie?
There's no hate campaign, it's simply a bad movie
You act confused and then state the problem in your last line
>b-but she really controlled herself this time I swear
When she's gone we can talk about new IJ films
It was a shitty movie.
It was like watching Gene Kelly on crutches. No one wants to watch a washed up Indiana Jones. They had him looking despondent and worn out throughout the movie and a total girl boss that saved the day non-stop. She constantly shut down Indiana at every opportunity, even putting his life at risk by locking him in with literal Nazis and running away like a coward.
This movie is trash. It hits every single feminist thing they could do to it. Plus, the new black character was trash, too. Lifeless character with zero charisma. If they’re going to go with something that stupid, go with JB Smoove or Hannibal Burress, at least they would have been funny.
>a total girl boss that saved the day non-stop
What's the issue? It's inspiring
> She constantly shut down Indiana at every opportunity, even putting his life at risk by locking him in with literal Nazis and running away like a coward.
This was hilarious tho?
It was a poorly written female character that had zero flaws. It was a Mary Sue self-insert.
The movie is called Indiana Jones. We don’t watch it to see some character swoop in and dunk on the protagonist the whole time.
It’s the same mistake Marvel keeps doing in its properties.
>Moon Knight: female character rescues the MC over and over, proved to be more competent.
>Thor: Love and Thunder
>Star Wars
>She-Hulk: keep showing she’s stronger, angrier, and better than Hulk in every way. They even have a throwing contest and they have her brag about how how much better she is.
>Ant-Man and Wasp
It’s like they don’t know how to write female characters without tearing down male characters. They have to show men as bumbling fools that have to be rescued.
Isn’t that the same thing they’re trying to correct? They don’t want to write females as damsels in distress so they turn around and write female characters as females-in-name-only and make the men the damsels in distress. It’s a woke overcorrect.
>I DIDN'T LIKE IT THEREFORE ITS BAD
Cope and seethe
>explains problem with weak writing
>YOU'RE JUST A CHUD
this isn't Twitter, homosexual
>It was a poorly written female character that had zero flaws.
That is false my friend.
>Constnantly gets in trouble
>gets Antonio Banderas killed
>gets Indie in trouble
>can't run away, always needs Indie to help her get away from the bad guys
what are you fricking talking about?
You are all mentally ill. the movie was fun and alright.
She faces no consequences for any of this. She's a liability. Willie was a better sidekick.
>She faces no consequences for any of this.
The government, her ex-lover, and mobsters
are literally after her in the movie. what are you talking about?
That's just part of the adventure. In the end she's fine and she doesn't learn anything.
>In the end she's fine and she doesn't learn anything.
Not true
I can not believe I have to explain this to you but here is the things she learned at the end.
>that life is not just about making money
>family is more important
Those are lessons more appropriate to a main character, not a supporting character. If they wanted her for that role they should have made an original story just for her.
>Those are lessons more appropriate to a main character, not a supporting character.
Are you a screenwriter or something? cause you are a really bad one.
There are no fricking rules for who learns what.
I feel as though during finalizing this script they considered it as a backdoor pilot for a spin-off, but even they realized that they couldn’t pull it off.
How do you make this very ugly woman with zero charisma the star of an action franchise? They could shoehorn her in this trash heap, but expecting her to carry a franchise by herself? Even Disney wasn’t that deluded.
Why do you people assume she was supposed to become the face of the franchise after Indie?
I have seen the movie and there is no indication she will continue Indie's footsteps.
There is no post credits scene where she takes his hat or anything. In the end she just walks away casually.
you are all fricking idiots.
>There is no post credits scene where she takes his hat or anything. In the end she just walks away casually.
>you are all fricking idiots.
THAT’S BECAUASE THEY RESHOT IT AT THE LAST MINUTE YOU moron. THERES LITERALLY PICS OF FLEABAG IN THE HAT RUNNING FROM THE BOULDER.
>THERES LITERALLY PICS OF FLEABAG IN THE HAT RUNNING FROM THE BOULDER
Holy frick I have to see this
Does she do the desert chase as well
where can we see these pics?
>It was a poorly written female character that had zero flaws.
She was full of flaws you stupid fricking Black person and she got Indies best friend killed because of her stupidity. (the scuba diver)
You are all insufferable homosexuals.
>It was a poorly written female character that had zero flaws. It was a Mary Sue self-insert.
She was an idiot in the movie and constantly got everyone in trouble and people died because of her stupidity.
>The movie is called Indiana Jones. We don’t watch it to see some character swoop in and dunk on the protagonist the whole time.
Except every side-character always dunks on Indie and gets him in trouble in every movie.
>It’s the same mistake Marvel keeps doing in its properties.
Indiana Jones is not a marvel character.
Was this written by an A.I BOT?
wtf?
>It's inspiring
It's a shit movie and disney shills like you are fricking annoying
I don't like character assassination
Saw it opening day. Then again today. Probably will go see it again tomorrow. I think it gets better with rewatches, definitely the first 20 minutes is one of the finest Indiana Jones moments we've had in the last 40 years. It's a really fun movie and Phoebe Waller Bridge isn't hard on the eyes either.
When you eventually have a nice day do you think you could stream it here? Everyone should be able to enjoy it. Don’t be selfish.
To follow up, turns out I was able to get a showing in about 15 minutes, it's almost impossible to get a ticket on this Fourth of July weekend. You guys better hurry up and you'll end up watching Netflix.
>Phoebe Waller Bridge isn't hard on the eyes either.
well now we know you are just trolling, full of bullshit and your judgement shouldn't be trusted for anything
Find a flaw
she's got a little shit on her forehead
released friday, it's sunday now
i thought the movie was dogshit but she was cute cute CUTE!
dude how low are your standards?
>shills failed to bs people that this was anything other than a shitshow so now they’ve switched tactics to trashing crystal skull to make this look better
I hope all of you gays end up homeless on the street and shanked by a drug addict. It’s what you deserve for repeatedly making this board unusable.
Empty Skull was garbage just like Diapers of Destiny
can someone please explain to me the hate campaign towards this movie?
It makes no sense to me.
I understand the situation about Flash, cause Ezra and DC bullshittery.
But this movie has nothing going on.
Why the hate? I watched it and it's just a simple fun adventure movie. It was not even feminist or anything and the only Black person that was in the movie gets shot and killed and was also semi-evil. So what is seriously going on here?
Is it just because of Kathleen? Cuase I barely see her influence in this movie. Indie does not get fricked in the ass like Luke. In fact he gets really respected in this movie and it was a perfect ending to the franchise.
>hate campaign
Black person, the movie is fricking trash. Cope, seethe, dilate and then go back to r*ddit and try and shill it there.
The lengths you have to go though to make the lead not kill himself is movie breaking. Like that scene that would normally be a long waterslide fall but it's just him sliding like 2 feet into some water puddle lmao.
What did Indy say to Archimedes? My version had some weird symbols as subs.
I assume something along the lines of I'm your biggest fan and rolemodel or something?
"We traveled 2000 years but never expected to see the great Archimedes" or something close to that
>can someone please explain to me the hate campaign towards this movie?
It makes no sense to me.
I understand the situation about Flash, cause Ezra and DC bullshittery.
But this movie has nothing going on.
Why the hate? I watched it and it's just a simple fun adventure movie. It was not even feminist or anything and the only Black person that was in the movie gets shot and killed and was also semi-evil. So what is seriously going on here?
Is it just because of Kathleen? Cuase I barely see her influence in this movie. Indie does not get fricked in the ass like Luke. In fact he gets really respected in this movie and it was a perfect ending to the franchise.
>I watched it and it's just a simple fun adventure movie
It was. All those nerdrotics and critical drinkers are usually spot-on and I really enjoy them, even doomwiener, but this time they were simply wrong. Dial is pretty gud, or am I out of touch?
>am I out of touch?
No, you're just stupid and easy to please
But I'm not. I hate everything Disney has shat out for the last 10 years. I hate Rey with a passion.
>I hate Rey with a passion.
She was hardly the worst thing about those movies. If you improved her it wouldn't save those movies. The manner of inclusion of the old characters was arguably worse.
Sounds like you're just trying to fit in which is a characteristic of stupid people.
You’re just an irrelevant homosexual with a double digit IQ. I’m sure you find lots of dogshit entertaining.
>double digit IQ
That's literally average though
I'm fed up of this double-digit bashing
>That's literally average though
average for everyone besides whites, northeast asians, israelites and igbo.
>You’re just an irrelevant homosexual
so is everyone on here tho
can someone please explain to me the hate campaign towards this movie?
It makes no sense to me.
I understand the situation about Flash, cause Ezra and DC bullshittery.
But this movie has nothing going on.
Why the hate? I watched it and it's just a simple fun adventure movie. It was not even feminist or anything and the only Black person that was in the movie gets shot and killed and was also semi-evil. So what is seriously going on here?
Is it just because of Kathleen? Cuase I barely see her influence in this movie. Indie does not get fricked in the ass like Luke. In fact he gets really respected in this movie and it was a perfect ending to the franchise.
/tv/'s "ironic" contrarianism is getting out of hand.
>Indie does not get fricked in the ass like Luke.
his son's dead, he and his ex-wife are too old to have more kids, thus the Jones bloodline is extinguished. Kennedy did the same thing to the Solos and the Skywalkers. Respected my ass
Dicksucking a moronic poo in the loo is pathetic, cuckboy
i found it to be rather boring, but the last 10 minutes were okay-ish
would i recommend it? no, stick to the original trilogy.
They should have left it unclear what Mads is trying to achieve, and let Indy assume the worst.
Then in the final act Mads leaps through the portal, Indy in pursuit, only to find themselves at Dealy Plaza on November 23 1963.
Only then is it made clear that he was all along trying to prevent Kennedy's assassination, thereby ensuring the Space Program isn't cancelled. Because all Werner von Braun actually cares about is getting mankind to Mars.
With Kennedy saved, there never is a Vietnam war and Mutt is still alive, giving Indy a happy ending, and also continuing the theme of the movies that all he had to do is nothing and the outcome would have been the same.
This would also teach Indy and the audience an important lesson that not all Nazis are bad
>Because all Werner von Braun actually cares about is getting mankind to Mars.
>a hostile irradiated planet with 1/8th G where you must live underground and pray for continued food/water shipments from Earth because terraforming isn't even remotely plausible
Yes well he didn't know that. He thought it was pretty good, and mercifully died before we found out what a shithole it is.
You could have Mars be a nice place in the Indy timeline.
>1/8th G
False, it's about one half G
> you must live underground
Only browns fear a little radiation
>food/water shipments from Earth
Growing your own crops in a frozen tundra is child's play for a white man
> terraforming isn't even remotely plausible
Good. If you made the place Earth-like you'd be flooded with browns before you know it
But this is what based Elon wants too and he is based.
How the turns have tabled.
>89% audience score on RT
>68% critics
I never thought Cinemaphile users would become as moronic as critics one day.
I loved the new movie, saw it yesterday. Don't even care that it's flopping since its the last Indiana movie and it was a great end to the franchise. Continue seething you idiots.
>its the last Indiana movie
I seriously doubt that. They're gonna deepfake these forever.
they lost over 100 million on this garbage, even Kiger can't justify another.
I disliked the whole segment in Peru in Crystal Skull but the rest was ok. The final act was very on par with the rest of Indy movies, including running away from the natives and the spectacular ending with the UFO flying from the temple... that still is awesome and is pure unnecesary but delicious eye candy.
>68% critics in RT
I guess it doesn't have enought black lesbians.
Raiders
Last Crusade
Temple of Doom
There are no other Indy movies.
this was boring as shit. not one scene impacted me on an emotional level or made me feeling anything. crystal skull is easily better
>Crystal Skull was bad
Sick of this meme. At least it had soul, unlike the newest slop.
wait, this came out already?
last crusade > raiders > crystal skull > temple of doom > dial of destiny
I literally can’t conceive of someone liking crystal skull more than temple of doom.
last crusade > raiders > fate of atlantis > temple of doom > crystal skull > dial of destiny
The point of old Indiana Jones movies, same with old James Bond movies is to see a guy you wish you were travel around and get into adventures at exotic locations.
James Bond they managed to keep updating with new actors so it always felt contemporary. They also still shoot at exotic locations.
But Indy can only be one actor and that actor is old so the entire "I wish I was him" dissipates. You don't want to be him anymore because he's old.
And the "exotic locations" are now just cgi backdrops so there's no sense that anyone was actually at these locations (even if they shoot in some other country most of the actual close-up stuff is greenscreen).
Either way the illusion is gone and you're just watching some old geezer get sassed by the "current day" sidekicks.
>But Indy can only be one actor
What about young Indiana Jones from the beginning of Last Crusade?
>But Indy can only be one actor
Why
Where did this absurd reification trend start
Just recast it
It used to be unthinkable to recast the start trek actors but they've done that a bunch of times now
Granted the shows were all shit but that's not the point
>this is your brain on RLM
Crystal Skull was unironically kino, probably rivalling Raiders.
Is this like the new thing were we have to pretend to like the Prequels in order to be accepted as Le Based?
Crystal Skull is a stupid movie, this is worse.
no, it sucks
I bet if you guys actually saw this movie you would like it. A ticket is like 10 bucks, that's like skipping lunch once, you can't be this cheap
Ford already looked unacceptably old in Crystal Skull, but now somehow he look younger?
Either way they should've just waited a bit more and then started using his likeness to shit out an infinite amount of movies where he's at his prime.
no this one leans completely into indy being a sad old man.
Shia LaDouche helped kill this franchise. If he wasn’t crazy, they wouldn’t have had to write him out of the story. He got the role from Spielberg anyway. Worst decision ever.
Imagine if they had cast a relevant, still successful up-and-coming actor. They’d potentially still have a franchise to keep going.
But they had to kill Indy’s son off-screen and the franchise is now dead.
I think there was still potential stories to be told in that world. But they allowed Tomb Raider and Pirates of the Caribbean to pick away at the bones.
Disney has confirmed this is the last movie in the franchise.
only thing Shia did wrong was tell the truth when hollywood "journalists" asked him about the movie and he said it wasn't good, which it wasn't
He didn't look that old in blade runner but now he looks distractingly crazy old, they should've put this out a decade ago.
Every time he started running in this I got a bit worried, not even joking. Guy looked frail as shit.
Why is he old?
Just got out of the theater. This is a top 2 Indy movie for me. The first 20 minutes especially. Hope we get a spinoff.
Yes, Indy is doing exactly as well as The Flash. Exactly. To the dollar.
This is false. Indy 5 is trending to be the highest grossing movie in the series EVER
>mouseBlack folk literally forced to shill their disney content on 4chins
what a bleak existence lmao
>It was a poorly written female character that had zero flaws. It was a Mary Sue self-insert.
She was an idiot in the movie and constantly got everyone in trouble and people died because of her stupidity.
>The movie is called Indiana Jones. We don’t watch it to see some character swoop in and dunk on the protagonist the whole time.
Except every side-character always dunks on Indie and gets him in trouble in every movie.
>It’s the same mistake Marvel keeps doing in its properties.
Indiana Jones is not a marvel character.
Was this written by an A.I BOT?
wtf? the hate for this movie does not feel genuine.
Indiana Jones is owned by Disney. Marvel is owned by Disney. Star Wars is owned by Disney.
It’s all the same parent company, so why are you splitting hairs?
Indiana Jones, in the past, had interference from other characters on the level of Jar Jar Binks messing with the plot. In this movie, it was essentially a humiliation ritual. Far too much nonsense.
This is one of the worst written female characters I’ve seen from woke Hollywood. Irredeemable.
>it was essentially a humiliation ritual.
but it wasn't.
In the end Indie literally got his biggest dream fullfilled and saw real life Roman Empire and Archimedes and started to cry out of joy.
They honored the character.
Also he was constantly saving the day in the movie when the dumb female character got in trouble.
Indiana Jones’ biggest dream was to know that his father loved him more than his work. Which he realized when his dad called him by his chosen name and told him to let it go. That was the end of the series. It should have been anyways.
kino scene, a man of culture here
>saw real life Roman Empire and Archimedes and started to cry out of joy.
>They honored the character.
With scif-fi bullshit?
This guy gets it.
>With scif-fi bullshit?
Newsflash motherfricker
Indiana Jones was never a "realistic movie".
In the first film everyones face literally gets melted by opening a chest.
Fleabag doesn't know her place. All the other sidekicks knew their place.
This.
She wasn’t even a sidekick.
It would be like if a woman showed up to the cave and rescued Tony Stark, after showing him how to finish the arc reactor, created his Iron Man Suit, rescued him from Obadiah Stane, and declared, “We are Iron Man.” Several movies later, she swoops in, steals the gauntlet from Tony and snaps her fingers to sacrifice herself, except she manages to use the gauntlet even better than Tony to reverse the damage done to her body and now she’s the new Iron Woman who will lead Marvel going forward.
This is the level of audacity we’re dealing with in the new Indiana Jones movie.
"Know her place" wtf does that mean? Sounds like /misc/-tier cope.
Just admit it, you expected this movie to be bad. In fact it turns out to be good, surprising no one. So you resort to inventing deranged accusations to try to salvage your world view.
Touch grass.
>Fleabag doesn't know her place.
????
what you mean she should have been in the Kitchen making Sandwich for Indie?
But that would be a really boring movie my friend.
She should have stuck to being a supporting character like Marcus Brody.
She had no place being in the movie at all.
Just got out of the movie theater, was dope AF. Look forward to seeing it again tomorrow.
Have fun Black person. Maybe your extra 15 dollarydoos will stop this from losing hundreds of millions lmao
Oh dear. Anyway....
I'm trying to view this tweet and its not loading, this is a fake tweet
>Feet on chairs
Animals
yeah? it was?
One day and it's already made 24m. With a 5 day weekend this is a easy 150m. From there this can coast with good legs to at LEAST second all time. This pretty much guarantees a Helena spinoff.
2 billy easy
This is not true I had a hard time getting a good seat it was so packed. Maybe if you want to sit in the front row you might find a seat but I'm sure you won't be able to find a good seat in any moderate sized city tonight
The original three movies were about religious artifacts.
The crystal skull was about aliens and dial of destiny is about time travel.
Should have stuck to the religious and supernatural.
it was never about religion, it was about mythology. lucas' rule for writing the films was to use artifacts from mythology, because it had more of a realistic sense to them. there's zero mythology for time travel, hence it was the one thing lucas did not want in an indy film, and they went and fricking used it.
the film needs to make 800 million to break even. it's not gonna make anywhere near half of that. they were predicting a 65 million opening weekend and right now the film isn't tracking at all overseas, and is barely scraping by what they thought opening night would do.
And the aliens in the crystal skull came from another dimension.
but the mythology of the crystal skull goes back decades. yeah it's not as old as hindu or christian symbols but it still came from an older world. lucas threw his own spin on it since ford was 20 years older and promptly aged indy up to the 50s, which was primetime for sci-fi films.
Still think they’d be better off with a Buddhist prayer wheel or something with a religious meaning to it.
Imagine being the Disney executive who has to make the decision to let your hired shills say Black person and israelite to sound more genuine.
>calls me disney shill
bro where do I sign up to become a disney shill cause I need money really badly.
anyway, you have shizophrenia
I neverget why people complaining about cinema pricing. Yes, it goes up like everything else. Reality is that it is still the cheapest form of entertainment. Try opera, ballet, theatre, concert, sports game, amusement park and see how much your wallet shrinks. I don't think we should be so harsh on Disney. Let's make sure the artists (camera men, makeup, graphic FX) get what they deserve
have a nice day
Suck start a shotgun rat cucks.
seeth harder you dumb idiot. Indy 5 is quite the fun ride so and you can suck Katie Kennedy's spongy billionaire clit
Shill spotting time.
>good legs
>not woke or feminist
>now allowed to say israelite and Black person
Have fun looking for more patterns.
hater spotting time
>good pussy
>constantly points at users that say israelite and Black person
>keeps saying the movie is feminist even if the female character constantly gets everyone in big trouble for doing dumb shit and gets saved by indie all the time
Have fun looking for more patterns
>constantly gets everyone in big trouble for doing dumb shit
Keep clinging onto this artificial talking point like a life preserver.
>Keep clinging onto this artificial talking point like a life preserver.
I don't understand what you mean because that was my own opinion. Oh wait, I forgot, you didn't watch the movie. How would you know. right? Cause you only follow moronic anons opinions that also have not seen the movie, like a sheep. Sheep Sheep Sheep Sheep. Baaaaaah Baaaaah Baaah
eat grass sheep.
Stop insulting sheep like that.
>adjusted for inflation
We don't do this in Hollywood accounting.
it's definitely the same handful of redditors per thread
I watched the movie just now.
Kinda baffled by all the hate cause it is just a generic action adventure, no controversy or anything political. Had a good time with my dad, 7/10 average popcorn flick. haven't seen any Indiana Jones films before. Madds was sexy (I am not gay)
Crystall Skull was DUMB but inoffensive, Indy gets a perfect happy ending
Dial of Destiny was dumb AND done with pure malice
What is with the absolute hate lmao?
Ive seen people give the film 2/10.
If you know your history, you definitely can appreciate the film a lot better. I feel like lots of people that watched this that hated it only seen "le avengers" and have to base it on capeshit or are pure brainlets
>mousecuck
>r*ddit spacing
>’to be fair you have to have a very high iq to get dilator of disastor’
I can’t imagine how grim your gay ass life must be. I would have a shotgun in my mouth immediately.
>t. You are not you when you are hungry.
and what history is that? time travel wasn't invented until jules verne thought it up for a book.
unlike every other indiana jones story (and when i say every other i mean every other, all the books/games/comics, even the fricking tv show) time travel has NO historical/mythical basis, which was lucas' one rule when writing an indy story. using existing mythology grounded the story. time travel is pure nonsense.
>what history is that?
Uh, a little thing called "The Roman Empire"
>time travel wasn't invented until jules verne thought it up for a book.
Heh, nice try idiot, but it was actually H. G. Wells.
Your opinion is invalid.
ok i got the wrong author but you knew the point i was making lol
and what does the roman empire have to do with time travel?
>and what does the roman empire have to do with time travel?
Because it takes place in the past, dingus. There's no Roman Empire without time travel
and? they're in the roman empire for all of five minutes to demonstrate the ability of the dial. it's entirely irrelevant and a post made by a moron/esl
cope. Romans took over your land and seethe
romans can't take over my lands if i'm roman already, moron.
>if I am Roman
Where are you from?
i come from the land of the ice and snow
from the midnight sun where the hot springs glow
nah just your standard burger poster, but my ancestry is bri'ish, frog, vikang and roman.
How did you get here without time travel?
i froze myself like buck rogers
>time travel wasn't invented until jules verne thought it up for a book
You realise time travel is still not invented, right?
>r*ddit spacing
>r*ddit comment
>post le scrubs normie
Just like clockwork.
>Ive seen people give the film 2/10.
I mean it's not undeserved.
At absolut best if you truly loved the roman scene and it's dark and you squint just enough maybe a 4/10.
The movie is fricking boring, long, has annoying unlikeable main characters and consists of at least 90% CGI which looks terrible.
I thought they really tried to make the CIA somewhat good in this (we dindu nuffin') with the black agent
Nah, at least Crystal Skull had a solid hour of movie that wasn't bland quippy video game shit. And Indy was actually the main character in that one.
>suddenly everyone likes Crystal Skull
lol
People prefer left overs to a plate of shit.
No, everyone just thinks significantly better than dilator of disastor.
Everyone loved Crystal Skull at the time. It's just RLM Plinkett shit brainwashed people into thinking they hated it
>suddenly
i've loved it since day one
crystal skull isn't as bad as people pretend it was, but at the same time it's a indiana jones movie
It was okay movie. Not great, but not horrible either.
I feel like it’s compulsory at this point. Shit sequel comes out and everyone is like “previous thing was actually really good u guyz!”
KOTC was garbage but had a better ending than this
Yes but still mediocre
>Indiana Jones and the Dilator of Destiny
Not sure what everyone is mad about, this is the feel-good family romp of the summer.
is this a dig at the film or is he reading off the most inhuman out of touch script in shill history?
didn't get to finish it, Robert interrupted me and told me that solo males couldn't stay, as I was the only one in the theater.
godawful movie. worse than crystal skull surprisingly
Did this even come out yet? I'm beyond the realms of not paying attention but I'm curious if it flopped yet.
Allegedly looking at a 60-80 million opening weekend with a 295 million budget (not including marketing)
That seems ok? Just needs to keep that up for another ten weeks and it'll break even including marketing. I'm guessing most people will want to rewatch it five or six times
>Just needs to keep that up for another ten weeks and it'll break even including marketing
anon if it's opening weekend is not even 1/3 of the production budget, it won't make more the second weekend. you're gonna see a drop of roughly 70% mark my fricking words. this shit will bomb harder than solo.
river phoenix died years ago moron
the problem is you can't recast indy and keep going, it has to be a full reboot. star trek has only had 1 reboot in its 55 years of existence, despite several actors having played kirk.
I don't give a frick about the actor, I care that Indiana Jones has been portrayed on the big screen by somebody other than Harrison Ford
Why didn't they just deepfake him for the Utah 1912 scenes?
and i care about someone else taking up the mantle because most of the younger generation is fricking dog shit
i enjoy chris pratt but never in a million years would i want him to wear the hat
>the problem is you can't recast indy and keep going
Why though
Just try it and see
People will manage
There's no young talent or charisma in Hollywood. Just Nepobabies these days.
What if you somehow got propelled into the past due to some mishap and had to make an Indy movie in Old Hollywood in order to return home
I'm voting for Gregory Peck
Spencer Tracy
Oh good choice
Cast Katherine Hepburn as the love interest for extra off-screen chemistry. Yes she's not the prettiest dame but she can act.
lucas said treasure of the sierra madres was one of the inspirations, so bogart i guess
With Walter Huston as Henry Jones Sr
>I'm guessing most people will want to rewatch it five or six times
should we tell him?
>60-80
58 max
very off topic but how did you all pass your driving test? I cant even get past the theory permit test. failed 4 times
also new indie movie was good
I actually liked it.
test
>right?
wrong
Raiders > Last Crusade > Crystal Skull > Temple of Doom > Dial of Destiny
Just came back from seeing it. It was the most "fine" movie I've seen in a while. It's a very boring movie visually and the sound design was really weak. Also John Williams probably fell asleep while writing the score, there's barely any music in the fricking thing. They really should have called it quits after Crystal Skull.
Frick off shill
idk man that actually seemed like a legit review since he's the first one to post about the score. ironically i thought his scores for the sequels felt more like indy scores, now this anon says he just wrote shit lol.
israelite shill
He didn't ever write the scores for nu wars they just used his name, at best he worked with younger composers who did 95% of the work.
Fell asleep to this shit earlier today. The only decent scene was when that annoying afroc**t got shot. Wish the little Mexican pilot got murdered as well but they needed him to fly back in time or some shit I dunno what was going on
I'll never know same with every star wars movie outside of the original trilogy & prequel trilogy.
How many weeks until Kennedy is out?
2 more anon
Not hard though, Crystal Skull was complete shit.
>they said it wasn't real
whats hilarious is most of the leak at least the first two acts were spot on with the exception of who was Helenas father and that Voller was Toth, both easily changed for the current version
not only that but this is more real than the pregnant rey shit that magically turned up two months ago
did Indy and crew get shot down by the Romans?
was Indy erased and replaced by woman?
that's all i really care about
Yes, technically no.
cool, i guess it's worth a pirate then
It's not worth anything
yes
no
you can't pay me to see this spacestationwreck
it was a bit on the nose in parts, stronk woman punches her way to victory etc.. but it wasnt that bad just utterly forgettable.
It was just a bland safe sequel that didn't really do anything exciting and had the same feel of "theme park ride" as Crystal Skull because there was zero tension.
terrible movie, absolutely terrible. i wish i hadn't paid to see it. some homosexual on here tricked me saying the woman didn't overshadow indy but she seriously single handedly ruined this movie
You only have yourself to blame. You'll watch the next nu wars garbage too.
>Octogenarian Boomer
>Middle Aged School Marm
>zero chemistry
Shia was amusing at least, this ... it doesn't do anything for any demographic it's hypothetically marketing to aside cat lady academics and a few Silent Generation men that could plausible self-insert as the protagonist. If they aren't money laundering with these shitters then they're irredeemably stupid.
Dumped in the crystal skulls mouth. Good way to hopefully end the series and move on to either an animated series or a new young indiana jones franchise.
Crystal skull is indeed garbage but this movie is also garbage. It ruined indy and there are a lot of shills on here trying to fix the opening weekend gross of this movie because the word of mouth is so terrible. Do yourself and future cinema a favor and don't pay to see this movie. Do not reward mean spirited writing from these studios!
Wasnt mean spirited. You didn't see it so how would you know. Woman was a villian/anti hero for more then half the film. You have been lied to by so many people. You actually trust youtubers and all the other media trying to shit on a film that not even they have seen yet? Cmon man
Shills sent in reinforcements. Do NOT be gaslit. It WAS mean spirited and it did ruin Indy
Do not be gaslit by people that haven't seen the film and formed their own opinion.
have a nice day shill
You have been awarded over 9000 Dialators of Destiny for your axe wound.
Get filtered film was KENO
>muh only people who liked it legitimately saw it
i saw this film and it was terrible. you fricking shill.
Nice try Sony frick boi. Enjoy your black spitterman
have a nice day shill
You have been awarded a free pass to Universal Harry Potter world
Did not ruin Indy. He never bows to any woman shit and he gets an ending that no one expected. His character growth and the shit he deals with in this movie is not even close to what you have been told.
Test
don't know, haven't seen it, probably never will.
How did they write Mutt out?
killed in Vietnam