At their prime you have trail by combat against the Mountain who do you choose as your champion
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At their prime you have trail by combat against the Mountain who do you choose as your champion
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Bobby B
>shorter than Ned
>beating anyone
''Considering Robert Baratheon was (in the books) noted as being around 6' 6" (198cm).''
The series is not canon
The character is meant to be much taller then Ned, and the actors are the same height.
Ned beat that guy with 2 swords who defended the tower and he was known as the best. So him
King Robert, God he was strong back then.
CAREFUL NED, CAREFUL NOW!!
Did we watch the same episode?
Ned didnt beat him, someone else stabbed him in the back
post season 4 is not canon
he didn't though
Bobby B, Barristan could also get it done but Bobby B can get it done more reliably since his weapon can actually hurt the Mountain.
>since his weapon can actually hurt the Mountain.
Explain
Bobby B fought with a giant hammer in his youth. Little toothpick swords won't do shit against the Mountain, but a big fricking warhammer might.
Ok so head cannon comment.
>Ok so head cannon comment.
The whole question of the thread relies on head canon, although if you're referring to the warhammer comment, it is mentioned in the books that bobby b fought primarily using a warhammer, Idk what you're b***hing about here.
Black person, go read the books before spouting such nonsense.
Robert is the single worst choice for this. He is proud enough to meet the mountain head on, and as renowned as he was in strength, the Mountain is a genetic freak who may well hold the title for the biggest man to ever live in Westeros. The mountain would cut him in half.
My vote is for Selmy. Smart and practical enough to know what to do, and skilled enough to do it.
Robert's specialty is killing rapists in plate armor I think he'd do fine.
Ironic seeing as Robert is literally a rapist in plate armor.
Cersei didn't mind fricking him before he got fat. She'd prefer Jaime's load dripping down her thighs, of course, but early on she liked Robert okay.
If we take Renly at his word and use a ~~*modern*~~ understanding of rape then Robert was raping his way across the seven kingdoms during his rebellion.
I do not use modern definitions of any word, because I'm not a filthy homosexual commie. The only person Robert conceivably raped was Cersei because after the first time when he called out someone else's name she was no longer willing.
>I do not use modern definitions of any word, because I'm not a filthy homosexual commie.
But you believe a husband can rape his wife?
True.
Not a rape if it is your wife.
>commie
Who the frick uses this as an insult besides brainwashed Ameritards? So fricking stupid.
>Who the frick uses this as an insult besides brainwashed Ameritards? So fricking stupid.
shut the frick you israelite bastard.
Da, komrade.
>t. inbred rapebaby
>He is proud enough to meet the mountain head on, and as renowned as he was in strength,
TV show secondary? Bobby was a great fighter skillwise. Everytime someone mentions his prime strengh, they make a point of his skill being just as special
I reread the full series every year. Obviously Robert was a great warrior - he bested Rhaegar - but he is never counted among the best when people are talking about skill. Jamie has an internal monologue that acknowledged Robert as stronger than him (along with a few others), but that he reckoned his skill and speed won out against them. Jorah also speculated that Robert would be driven by pride to go toe to toe against the Dothraki, which would be suicidally dangerous.
Swords do jack shit to plate armor, while getting hit by a hammer fricks you up whether you're armored or not.
To the mountain?
Don't think so frenchump
Jaime and Ned have valyrian steel swords, Prime Selmy was only one step bellow Arthur Dayne and Dawn. Like, Cersei almost shat her pants with fear Selmy would go nuclear on the throne room and kill every one there when he quit the kingsguard, despite all the kingsguard around.
>valyrian steel
Doesnt cut steel
It doesn't, but its so light it offers a huge buff. The show doesn't portray it well because this plot was ditched but in the books its a huge deal.
I would choose the guy that calls the shots here.
same. mountain is greenlit.
The most dangerous man in Dorne.
What's his end game
Well he's pretty clearly Azor Ahai so he'll be saving the world. One Lannister child at a time.
TELL ME ABOUT DAYNE!
Wonder why GURM decided he'd look so much like a Targaryen but never delve into it.
He is the real Aegon
N + A = J in truth, but the biggest lie of the story will be people convinced that R + L = J
Darkstar's likeness to a Targaryen will be used to show the reader that Jon's false targshitness is actually just his Dayne genetics
>Jon isn't a Targ because he doesn't look like one
>Jon is a Dayne even though he doesn't look like one
>N + A = J is the real twist even though morons like Cersei believe it
>N + A = J is the real twist even though Ned has literally no reason to lie about it
Since you can't match him in strength, which is all Robert has, he's out by default. Ned was a mediocre fighter, so he too is out. That leaves Jamie and Barristan, and Jamie himself considered Barristan to be his better. So Barristan it is.
jon snow
I choose the mountain
Could Aria defeat The Mountain? She's a lot quicker then him so she could easily dodge his sword and her training would let her know where the weak spots of his armor are. Honestly if you're fast enough The Mountain isn't even a threat. I bet Karl Tanner could take him too.
Yes. She's a woman and women can do anything.
Barristan is the only correct choice
The mountain and bobby both rely on their strength and size and the mountain dwarfs him
Stannis
Either Bobby B or Selmy could most likely get the job done.
moron
Bobby B. in his prime was a beast. He would have cut the mountain in two with his axe
The correct answer is Oberyn you just have to instruct him to not be a fricking moron and let his guard down to gloat.
that was such an awful plot hole, complete non sense
>plothole
How so?
I mean he basically killed the big guy. But he starts fricking around, loses focus and gets killed. That was simply very stupid, and not "realistic". That made absolutely no sense to me unless for the plot to go forward
His goal for the fight was to get a confession, not a kill. The mountain was going to die to the poison from the spear wounds without either admitting he raped and kiled Oberyn's sister, or without giving up the name of who ordered him to. He had to push the interrogation which meant becoming reckless.
He also got the confession by doing this, so in the end he achieved his aims even if he got his head imploded.
>But he starts fricking around, loses focus and gets killed. That was simply very stupid, and not "realistic"
Happens all the time.
I also don’t even understand how that counts as a loss. It was basically a draw at that point. Very shitty and confusing writing that totally undercut what they were going for
Why do homosexuals never understand the words and terms they use?
John Wick.
The Mandalorian again. Just tell him to keep the shit-talking to an absolute minimum to avoid having his skull crushed.
Goku
Aragorn.
I choose me, armed with my beat-to-shit Ruger American chambered in .308. There's no optic on it right now, but I won't need one, he's a pretty big target.
>inb4 they don't have guns
Well I do. Its hardly my fault that their society has been around for thousands of years and they haven't even invented the most rudimentary of cannon. You'd have thought all those dragonless lords would have invested some of their considerable wealth into coming up with some way of countering one effectively.
I'm not even sure you could kill him with that before he got to you and ripped your spine out. Unless you got lucky with the shots hitting vital spots.
Arthur with Excalibur
Didn't the mountain lose to a homosexual at a tournament and then beheaded his horse? He also lost his mortal life to some homosexual with a poisoned stick, he isn't as hard to beat as you guys make it look like
The Hound, unironically. Killing his brother was literally the only thing he wanted in life.
The dude in the top right, I forget his name, was literally the GOAT. Why in gods name, other than bantz, would anyone choose someone else?
>GOAT
We never got a direct comparison but I'd say Jaime is equal to prime Selmy
jammie the sister fricker, pre hand cut
me
Bobby B would crush mountain skull with his bare hands
In their prime 1v1? Jaime, Robert and Selmy wouldv'e low or mid diffed him. Ned and Mountain can go either way but its kinda 60-40 in favor of Ned. Ned is weaker, but has Ice and is a more competent swordsman. If you do a 5v5 any team with Stark would win low diff. He was a great general and could rally literally anyone on the seven kingdoms against anyone else, even Tywin would side with him against Cersei. Mountain is A tier. Selmy is S tier as is Bobby B. Jaime is said to be S+, constantly compared to the likes of Arthur Dayne.
Selmy was the greatest swordsman of the age in his prime. Jaime even says in his old age he would've been hard to kill
I face the Mountain myself, and that's what nobody else did.
Oberyn of course. As long as he doesn't have a personal agenda outside of winning the contest he is proven to be superior to the Mountain in a 1v1
Reminder that whomever you pick, gurm is going to SUBVERT your expectations:)
Jaime and Barristan would absolutely dismantle Gregor, no contest.
Ned was never renowned for being a great swordsman, so not sure why he's here. Bobby I would give even odds vs Gregor because yeh he was good, but he's a power fighter and Gregor is just an even bigger power fighter.
>Ned was never renowned for being a great swordsman
Not great but good enough to hold his own against the greats in the battlefield and has Ice which is a greatsword. If Oberyn could do it with reach, so can Ned with a valyrian steel greatsword
Oberyn had a poison spear and was basically doing gymnastics to stay out of reach. Not really a fair comparison.
Not really making a hard comparison, just saying the fights on GoT are pretty much RPG fights. Ned's speed and swordsmanship can make up for the difference in strengh and reach because Gregor is that much of a shitty fighter
Ice is a ceremonial sword, it's too big for Ned to wield it in combat. Gregor is wielding a greatsword...
>but good enough to hold his own against the greats in the battlefield
But he wasn't. He partook in a 7 vs 2 sword fight where 4 on his own side died for the 2 on the other. He's nothing special, just a honorable, respected lord.
I have it on good authority that The Winds of Winter's publication announcement will come in 2024.
Prime Robert was basically The Mountain 1.0 but more skilled and used a weapon that was actually appropriate for fighting armored targets. Robert is the best choice here, though Barristan is a close second.
What is with that Warcraft tier warhammer?
not a single fan artist of robert baratheon knows how to draw a warhammer
case in point
Leslie Nielsen looking guy.
Selmy was a b***h who got owned by a random guy with a dagger, so absolutely not him.
Selmy also got something like eighteen of those frickers, unarmored.
In his 60s.
Brann the Broken (who has a better story than him?)
I would elect the Mountain as my champion from the onset, knowing he would never turn down the opportunity to tear someone asunder.
Trick question - they could all kill The Mountain in open single combat.
It was already shown in the trial-by-combat with Oberyn that even in an arena of limited size it's possible for a well-trained fighter to run rings around the brute. If you take this to an open field of uncertain/unlimited size then I don't see why any of the 4 characters in OP wouldn't also run rings around Gregor "the moron" Clegane as well. They're all supposedly elite soldiers with both the highest-possible level of training and excellent natural instincts for single combat. It's highlighted several times in the books that The Mountain is protected from justice/being murdered because of his family's association with the Lannisters/his noble birth: not because of his proficiency in single combat.
Bobby B has the best odds in terms of pure strength but even in his prime he probably wouldn't match the mountain.
Barry is le skilled but that doesn't really matter in a fully armored wrestling match
jamie is just barry with less experience
Ned probably has latent warging and could just psy-frick gregor for a moment then slit his throat