At what point do you "Indie cartoon" stop being indie?

At what point does an "Indie cartoon" stop being indie?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    When it is picked up by a company

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      /thread
      I can't wait for the DC threads to die down a bit, I like the show but its the same as Hazbin Hotel. Just brings out the nutters trying to stoke up faux outrage

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        When it's one episode every three months or so they are likely to stick around for a while. The episodes are going to keep a relatively steady flow of conversation for a while.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      what nonnie here said

      independent authors and artists can easly do their own merch/books at home with a decent salary, work in group and invest in the right way and know how to keep and curate money necesessities. also market and such. anyway i need the pomni and gummygoo plush.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Define a company
      Is Glitch Productions not a company?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He means company as in an industry company I.E Warner Bros, Amazon, Netflix ETC
        Glitch is indie cause they have no any big animation company and are entirely reliant on funding from fans

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Define a company
          Is Glitch Productions not a company?

          >No relation to any big animation company
          FML

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >and are entirely reliant on funding from fans
          I highly doubt this.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >are entirely reliant on funding from fans
            I thought they got Australia funding or something.

            They got aussie government money for their first two shows but since they hired on non-aussies for MD and ADC they lost that money and are now completely dependent of ad revenue and merch sales.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >government-funded aussie entertainment utterly mogged by american randos
              ya love to see it

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The only good indie show to come out Australia is The Big Lez show and its continuations.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Glitch is indie cause they have no any big animation company and are entirely reliant on funding from fans
          As opposed to funding from ESG grants?
          Because if not, then literally, by defintiion, ALL COMPANIES ARE RELIANT ON FUNDING FROM "FANS."

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >are entirely reliant on funding from fans
          I thought they got Australia funding or something.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        ooooooh yeah you are right. I think we misinterpreted the "company term" as a big corporation... but it checks i think "Glitch Studio" could be classified as a small company then. I

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It is, but it's not part of a larger conglomerate. Ergo, an independent company.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          So, something stops being indie when it's being funded, in whole or in part, by an entity that owns more companies than the one responsible for producing the property in question?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah thats the independent part, and no government grants don't count, otherwise anyone who lives off NEET bucks would be a state employee.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              That seems fair to me.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I'd like to add the caveat that if an "indie" studio ever gets to the point it has 5-6 series going on at once and they are all profitable. I wouldn't call them indie anymore - at that point they're just a new player in the industry (just not part of the old guard)

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      When it is picked up by A24

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Are you independent if you start publishing other shows though?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes? What the frick do you think “indie studio” means? You only make one thing then disappear?

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    When it becomes a publicly traded corporation or is incorporated into a publicly traded corporation, obviously.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Around it's 2nd or so major success, but I wouldn't consider Murder Drones or anything to be the first, it's the same rule of thumb that has been used for stuff like A24, if it's in theaters, and is relatively popular it's not indie, but because the internet is the only hosting place now then then it applies.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Popularity doesn't make something suddenly not indie, are you stupid?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, and property ownership determines class under Marxism, but not income, yet I would feel bad for someone who inherits worthless dry land over someone who owns nothing but makes bank doing work and becomes high middle class but chooses to rent out a expensive pent house instead of buying a home.
        Suck my dick homosexual, it's based on popularity, not ownership.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          So you are stupid then.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I look at what matters above out dated definitions, if you consider that a bad trait I cannot help you.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Isn't money a type of property though?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No, it's a transactional system used to put labor to wage to buy resource based material property, at least under the definition, however, unless a solar flare hits in the next decade, I'm going to consider the guy who owns farm land poorer compared to the guy renting out a $50k a month penthouse tricked out with every square inch with expensive trinkets that have no resale value but owns no "passive income resource property" to be the rich butthole and I think anyone who doesn't is just blind.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Personal property yes, but not the type of property Marx was talking about. There’s clearly a difference between owning a TV and owning a company where people’s livelihoods depend on you.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I consider it more of a profit threshold.

        Indy is when it's a small operation of a few people, likely low paid to not paid and not even paid by people with dayjobs.

        When everyone working there has a salary equaling those from other studios and the series makes enough money to keep a studio floating, it's not indy any longer. It's a regular working studio making content.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I only have the Pomni plushie, but I want the Caine, Kinger, Zooble, and Gummigoo plushies too... maybe also the Gangle one because of her mask...

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    When it's on a fricking hurdle

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    which plushie should i buy anons

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Kinger, obviously.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Gummigoo

      And once you get it, buy a second one.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      if you can all of them, but if u want my personal choice i would go with Pomni~

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ragatha, you can frick it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Caine because you can stick your dick between his eyes

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    this is something ive thought about generally with the changing landscape of the entertainment industry, though more so with games. big sites like steam and youtube allowing anyone to publish their own stuff with minimal steps to take.
    if its something that's funded out of the creator's own pocket or crowed funded then i think it counts as an indie.
    if its made or funded by an established company then it no longer counts as an independent project
    honestly id say digital circus isn't an indie since glitch is more of a small company

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >if its made or funded by an established company then it no longer counts as an independent project
      Unless is the videogame industry in which case words have no meaning.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It remains "indie" for as long as it's creators/studio remain independent. Any other answer is completely irrelevant.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's indie by literal definition, but it's never felt "indie" to me since it was able to have several dubs and merch on day 1. There's an obvious large amount of preexisting budget. Same way A24 is literally indie but doesn't "feel" indie in terms of production and their budgets, while still being much smaller compared to blockbuster films, still also being millions more than stuff my brain feels is really indie. Comparing either of those to stuff with truly no budget and nothing backing them up at all would be dishonest

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Good to know I can eventually outsell Marvel and DC, or Disney and as long as shits creator owned the moronic Black folk on Cinemaphile will still call me indie, maybe even "ethical" lmfao.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I mean, they're not a megaconglomerate, they put their shit on youtube, and are chill, still indie to me.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Well I would recon when the company becomes big, but that is not quite right, Indie means it was made outside of what one would consider the industry, has a relatively low budget and isn't financially backed by the usual suspects. Even if they make money they are still indie until they sell the company to some big studio or get absorbed by one.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    we are seeing a blurring of lines recently.
    i think that if online animation was to outperform and replace the current big names, like if Disney went bankrupt and Glitch bought everything they owned for some reason, "indie" would get twisted to mean "not the guys before them".
    but whatever the definition is, we can all agree that Hazbin Hotel doesn't count.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If Gooseworx can somehow buy Disney, I will respect everything he stands for. Even his pronouns. Disney should be ashamed that something like that is even on the table

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        *she *her

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If Gooseworx were to buy Disney, I would suck his dick and say I'm not gay.
        As opposed to now, where I'd suck his dick and say I am gay.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The success of a cartoon doesn’t determine whether it’s indie, if that’s your point.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Hush (Calavera de Comala)

    When they sell out or become the property of a bigger company or corporation, such as AT&T and Warner. If they sell the rights to their intellectual properties, like Rooster Teeth no longer owning RWBY, then it cannot be considered indie anymore.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >no Kinger keychain
    Disappointing.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So what is the order of when the PCs joined the Circus?
    Kinger > Gangle > Jax > Zooble > Ragatha > Pomni?

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Glitch out here really fricking selling rip-off Raggedy Ann dolls for $30+shipping+tip? The balls on these hack frauds. No hate though, Id buy one on impulse if I went to like one of their pop up stores or events they hold.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    When it's no longer made in Indiana.

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wtf pommi fumo real

  21. 3 weeks ago
    DoctorGreen

    I don't even know why you tards started using the "indie" buzzword

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    When investors start controlling the creative decisions.

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    indie means you get to fool people into thinking you are starving so is easier to get donations
    >b-but
    shut the frick up moron

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