At what point does an "Indie cartoon" stop being indie?
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At what point do you "Indie cartoon" stop being indie?
At what point does an "Indie cartoon" stop being indie?
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When it is picked up by a company
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I can't wait for the DC threads to die down a bit, I like the show but its the same as Hazbin Hotel. Just brings out the nutters trying to stoke up faux outrage
When it's one episode every three months or so they are likely to stick around for a while. The episodes are going to keep a relatively steady flow of conversation for a while.
what nonnie here said
independent authors and artists can easly do their own merch/books at home with a decent salary, work in group and invest in the right way and know how to keep and curate money necesessities. also market and such. anyway i need the pomni and gummygoo plush.
Define a company
Is Glitch Productions not a company?
He means company as in an industry company I.E Warner Bros, Amazon, Netflix ETC
Glitch is indie cause they have no any big animation company and are entirely reliant on funding from fans
>No relation to any big animation company
FML
>and are entirely reliant on funding from fans
I highly doubt this.
They got aussie government money for their first two shows but since they hired on non-aussies for MD and ADC they lost that money and are now completely dependent of ad revenue and merch sales.
>government-funded aussie entertainment utterly mogged by american randos
ya love to see it
The only good indie show to come out Australia is The Big Lez show and its continuations.
>Glitch is indie cause they have no any big animation company and are entirely reliant on funding from fans
As opposed to funding from ESG grants?
Because if not, then literally, by defintiion, ALL COMPANIES ARE RELIANT ON FUNDING FROM "FANS."
>are entirely reliant on funding from fans
I thought they got Australia funding or something.
ooooooh yeah you are right. I think we misinterpreted the "company term" as a big corporation... but it checks i think "Glitch Studio" could be classified as a small company then. I
It is, but it's not part of a larger conglomerate. Ergo, an independent company.
So, something stops being indie when it's being funded, in whole or in part, by an entity that owns more companies than the one responsible for producing the property in question?
Yeah thats the independent part, and no government grants don't count, otherwise anyone who lives off NEET bucks would be a state employee.
That seems fair to me.
I'd like to add the caveat that if an "indie" studio ever gets to the point it has 5-6 series going on at once and they are all profitable. I wouldn't call them indie anymore - at that point they're just a new player in the industry (just not part of the old guard)
When it is picked up by A24
Are you independent if you start publishing other shows though?
Yes? What the frick do you think “indie studio” means? You only make one thing then disappear?
When it becomes a publicly traded corporation or is incorporated into a publicly traded corporation, obviously.
Around it's 2nd or so major success, but I wouldn't consider Murder Drones or anything to be the first, it's the same rule of thumb that has been used for stuff like A24, if it's in theaters, and is relatively popular it's not indie, but because the internet is the only hosting place now then then it applies.
Popularity doesn't make something suddenly not indie, are you stupid?
Yeah, and property ownership determines class under Marxism, but not income, yet I would feel bad for someone who inherits worthless dry land over someone who owns nothing but makes bank doing work and becomes high middle class but chooses to rent out a expensive pent house instead of buying a home.
Suck my dick homosexual, it's based on popularity, not ownership.
So you are stupid then.
I look at what matters above out dated definitions, if you consider that a bad trait I cannot help you.
Isn't money a type of property though?
No, it's a transactional system used to put labor to wage to buy resource based material property, at least under the definition, however, unless a solar flare hits in the next decade, I'm going to consider the guy who owns farm land poorer compared to the guy renting out a $50k a month penthouse tricked out with every square inch with expensive trinkets that have no resale value but owns no "passive income resource property" to be the rich butthole and I think anyone who doesn't is just blind.
Personal property yes, but not the type of property Marx was talking about. There’s clearly a difference between owning a TV and owning a company where people’s livelihoods depend on you.
I consider it more of a profit threshold.
Indy is when it's a small operation of a few people, likely low paid to not paid and not even paid by people with dayjobs.
When everyone working there has a salary equaling those from other studios and the series makes enough money to keep a studio floating, it's not indy any longer. It's a regular working studio making content.
I only have the Pomni plushie, but I want the Caine, Kinger, Zooble, and Gummigoo plushies too... maybe also the Gangle one because of her mask...
When it's on a fricking hurdle
which plushie should i buy anons
Kinger, obviously.
Gummigoo
And once you get it, buy a second one.
if you can all of them, but if u want my personal choice i would go with Pomni~
Ragatha, you can frick it.
Caine because you can stick your dick between his eyes
this is something ive thought about generally with the changing landscape of the entertainment industry, though more so with games. big sites like steam and youtube allowing anyone to publish their own stuff with minimal steps to take.
if its something that's funded out of the creator's own pocket or crowed funded then i think it counts as an indie.
if its made or funded by an established company then it no longer counts as an independent project
honestly id say digital circus isn't an indie since glitch is more of a small company
>if its made or funded by an established company then it no longer counts as an independent project
Unless is the videogame industry in which case words have no meaning.
It remains "indie" for as long as it's creators/studio remain independent. Any other answer is completely irrelevant.
It's indie by literal definition, but it's never felt "indie" to me since it was able to have several dubs and merch on day 1. There's an obvious large amount of preexisting budget. Same way A24 is literally indie but doesn't "feel" indie in terms of production and their budgets, while still being much smaller compared to blockbuster films, still also being millions more than stuff my brain feels is really indie. Comparing either of those to stuff with truly no budget and nothing backing them up at all would be dishonest
Good to know I can eventually outsell Marvel and DC, or Disney and as long as shits creator owned the moronic Black folk on Cinemaphile will still call me indie, maybe even "ethical" lmfao.
I mean, they're not a megaconglomerate, they put their shit on youtube, and are chill, still indie to me.
Well I would recon when the company becomes big, but that is not quite right, Indie means it was made outside of what one would consider the industry, has a relatively low budget and isn't financially backed by the usual suspects. Even if they make money they are still indie until they sell the company to some big studio or get absorbed by one.
we are seeing a blurring of lines recently.
i think that if online animation was to outperform and replace the current big names, like if Disney went bankrupt and Glitch bought everything they owned for some reason, "indie" would get twisted to mean "not the guys before them".
but whatever the definition is, we can all agree that Hazbin Hotel doesn't count.
If Gooseworx can somehow buy Disney, I will respect everything he stands for. Even his pronouns. Disney should be ashamed that something like that is even on the table
*she *her
If Gooseworx were to buy Disney, I would suck his dick and say I'm not gay.
As opposed to now, where I'd suck his dick and say I am gay.
The success of a cartoon doesn’t determine whether it’s indie, if that’s your point.
When they sell out or become the property of a bigger company or corporation, such as AT&T and Warner. If they sell the rights to their intellectual properties, like Rooster Teeth no longer owning RWBY, then it cannot be considered indie anymore.
>no Kinger keychain
Disappointing.
So what is the order of when the PCs joined the Circus?
Kinger > Gangle > Jax > Zooble > Ragatha > Pomni?
Glitch out here really fricking selling rip-off Raggedy Ann dolls for $30+shipping+tip? The balls on these hack frauds. No hate though, Id buy one on impulse if I went to like one of their pop up stores or events they hold.
When it's no longer made in Indiana.
Wtf pommi fumo real
I don't even know why you tards started using the "indie" buzzword
When investors start controlling the creative decisions.
indie means you get to fool people into thinking you are starving so is easier to get donations
>b-but
shut the frick up moron